Transcript: SARS and Throne Speech | May 04, 2003

The opening sequence rolls.

Music plays as clips of politicians and demonstrations appear on an animated number 4.

A clip shows a gavel banging against a desk, and MPPs voting in the Legislature.

Fast clip shows images of Parliament.

Paula says THIS WEEK ON "4TH
READING," THE SPEECH FROM THE
THRONE.

Brian O’Riordan says SOMETHING OLD, SOMETHING
NEW, SOMETHING BORROWED,
SOMETHING BLUE.

Paula says THE TORIES COURT
THOSE IN ONTARIO, WITH A LITTLE
SOMETHING FOR EVERYONE.

Paula is in the studio with 3 guests.

Paula Todd is in her early forties, with chin length straight blond hair with bangs. She wears a silk patterned beige blouse and a beige jacket.

Paula says HELLO, EVERYONE.
I'M PAULA TODD.
WELCOME TO "4TH READING."
HE TOLD US TIME AND AGAIN HE
WAS A FISCAL CONSERVATIVE WITH
A SOCIAL CONSCIOUS.
THEN WE HEARD REPORTS THAT
ERNIE EVES WAS TURNING HARD
RIGHT, LOOKING TO RUN THE NEXT
ELECTION ON BANNING TEACHERS'
STRIKES AND SWEEPING THE
HOMELESS OFF THE STREETS.
THIS WEEK , A THRONE SPEECH
THAT SEEMED TO STRIKE A MORE
CONCILIATORY TONE ONCE AGAIN.
TODAY, A NEW POLITICAL PASTIME
AT QUEEN'S PARK, ANALYZING
ERNIE EVES.
FIRST UP, LOOKING FOR CLUES IN
THE THRONE SPEECH.

A fast clip shows images of a Parliamentary session.

A caption reads "Honourable James Bartleman. Ontario Lieutenant Governor."

He says THOSE IN ONTARIO ARE
COMPETITIVE AND COMPASSIONATE.
WE ARE SUCCESSFUL, BUT BELIEVE
THAT NO ONE MUST BE LEFT
BEHIND.
WE ARE PROUD OF OUR
ACHIEVEMENTS, BUT BELIEVE IN
THE PROMISE OF AN EVEN BRIGHTER
FUTURE FOR OUR PROVINCE.

The caption changes to "Dalton McGuinty. Ontario Liberal Leader."

Dalton is in his mid-forties, clean-shaven and with short straight brown hair. He wears a black suit, blue shirt and red tie.

He says I GUESS THEY GAVE UP ON THE
HARD RIGHT TURN.
I THINK THEY'VE DONE A LOT OF
POLLING AND LISTEN TO WHAT
THOSE IN ONTARIO ARE LOOKING
FOR.
THEY'RE LOOKING FOR REAL
POSITIVE CHANGE.
THAT'S WHAT OUR PLAN OFFERS.
THIS SPEECH DOESN'T.

The caption changes to "Brian O’Riordan. GP Murray Research."

Brian is in his late-forties, clean-shaven and with short wavy brown hair. He wears glasses, a black suit, blue shirt and striped tie.

He says THE THRONE SPEECH IS A BIT
OF A GRAB BAG.
IT IS MORE CENTRIST THAN
PROBABLY SOME OF THE HARRIS
SPEECHES.
UM, BUT I THINK THAT WHAT IT
REALLY REPRESENTS IS THAT ERNIE
EVES IS STILL TRYING TO FIND
HIS WAY.
STILL TRYING TO PLEASE A LOT 6
PEOPLE.
OUT THERE.
THERE'S, UM, THERE'S-- A LOT OF
PEOPLE OUT THERE.
THERE'S, THE UM, THERE'S
SOMETHING FOR NORTHERNERS.
SOMETHING FOR PEOPLE CONCERNED
ABOUT DISABILITIES ISSUES.
THERE'S PEOPLE, YOU KNOW,
REALLY CATERING TO A LOT OF
SPECIAL INTERESTS.

Paula says SO LET'S GET INTO
MORE DETAIL ON THIS WITH OUR
QUEEN'S PARK ANALYST.
RICHARD MAHONEY, THE FORMER
PRESIDENT OF THE ONTARIO
LIBERALS.
CURRENTLY WITH A CAPITAL GROUP.
AND RUTH GRIER IS A FORMER
CABINET MINISTER IN BOB RAE
GOVERNMENT.
THIS WEEK FOR THE PC, BILL
MCCREADIE, PRESIDENT OF THE
ONTARIO PC PARTY.
HELLO TO ALL OF YOU.
YOU KNOW IT'S A GAME, THE KNOCK
BY EVES' CRITICS IS THAT HE'S
ALL OVER THE PLATE TALL MAP.
SO, BLAIR, 23 THIS THRONE
SPEECH IS SUPPOSED TO GIVE US A
CLEAR-CUT SENSE OF HIS
POLITICAL PERSONALITY.
WHAT IS IT TELLING US.

The caption changes to "Blair McCreadie. President, Ontario PC Party."

Blair is in his late thirties, clean-shaven and with short wavy graying hair. He wears a black suit, blue shirt and a patterned green tie.

He says I THINK THIS THRONE SPEECH
THIS WEEK WAS A BIG WIN FOR THE
GOVERNMENT.
BECAUSE IT SET OUT OUR
GOVERNMENT'S VISION.
WHICH IS THAT YOU NEED TO KEEP
ONTARIO'S ECONOMY STRONG IF
WE'RE GOING TO DO THE THINGS
THAT ARE IMPORTANT TO THE
PEOPLE OF THIS PROVINCE.
THINGS LIKE INVESTING IN
PRIORITY SERVICES.
PROTECTING ONTARIO'S
VULNERABLE.
AND MAKING SURE THAT-- THAT OUR
NATURAL BEAUTY IS PRESERVED.
THE OTHER, UM, UM, ISSUE THAT I
THINK THAT-- THAT CAME OUT THIS
WEEK THAT WAS VERY IMPORTANT,
UM, WAS THAT-- WAS THAT THIS
WAS THE FIRST OPPORTUNITY THAT
THOSE IN ONTARIO HAVE HAD TO
ACTUALLY CONTRIBUTE THEIR IDEAS
TO THE THRONE SPEECH.
WE WENT OUT AND LAUNCHED A VERY
AGGRESIVE CONSULTING PROGRAM
AND OVER 10,000 OF THOSE IN
ONTARIO SHED A LIGHT OVER A
TWO-WEEK PERIOD.

Paula says RUTH, WHAT DID YOU LEARN
ABOUT ERNIE EVES FROM THE
THRONE SPEECH?

The caption changes to "Ruth Grier. Former NDP Cabinet Minister."

Ruth is in her sixties, with short straight white hair. She wears a purple blouse, beige cardigan and pearl necklace.

She says THAT HE WANTS TO WIN THE NEXT
ELECTION.
AND HE’LL SAY WHATEVER
IS REQUIRED TO A SPECIAL
INTEREST GROUP THAT HE THINKS
MIGHT VOTE FOR HIM.
BUT AT LEAST FIVE TIMES IN THRONE
SPEECH AND BLAIR SAID IT AGAIN
TODAY, WE HEARD ABOUT THIS
CONSULTATION WITH THE PEOPLE.
OBVIOUSLY THOSE 10,000 PEOPLE
WERE ALL HOME OWNERS.
BECAUSE HE COULDN'T HAVE HEARD
FROM A TENANT, OR HE WOULD HAVE
HEARD ABOUT THE SCANDAL OF RENT
CONTROLS, OR THE LACK OF RENT
CONTROLS.
THEY MUST ALL HAVE NANNIES.
BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY NONE OF THEM
TALKED ABOUT CHILD CARE.
PRESUME PLAY ALL HAVE GOOD JOBS
BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T TALK ABOUT
THE FACT THAT DID HE DIDN'T
INCREASE THE MINIMUM WAGE FOR
SO MANY YEARS.
IT'S PHONY AND DESIGNED AS
SOMEBODY SAID TO GO INTO A
SUPERMARKET AND JUST PICK
THINGS OFF SHELVES THAT YOU
THINK WILL BE ATTRACTIVE.

Paula says RICHARD?

The caption changes to "Richard Mahoney. Ontario Liberal Advisor."

Richard is in his early fifties, clean-shaven and with short wavy gray hair. He wears a navy blue suit, blue shirt and green tie.

Richard says PUTTING MY POP PSYCHOLOGIST
HAT HERE.
I WOULD SAY MY CLINICAL
DIAGNOSIS OF MR. EVES IS, UM,
THAT HE WANTS TO BE ALL THINGS
TO ALL PEOPLE.
HE HAS THE POLITICIAN'S
DISEASE.
NOW, HE WOULDN'T BE THE ONLY
POLITICIAN IN THE COUNTRY TO
HAVE THAT DISEASE.
BUT HE, UM, YOU KNOW, HE HAS IN
HIS YEAR END, UM, BEEN BACK AND
FORTH ON SO MANY ISSUES, UM,
THAT IT'S HARD TO KNOW WHERE HE
STANDS.
I BELIEVE IN THE CAMPAIGN.
WE'LL SEE A MORE RIGHT WING
ERNIE EVES.
THIS TIME WHAT WE SEE IS HIM
PERHAPS NOT SURE WHERE HE WANTS
TO GO.
PERHAPS BORROWING A BUNCH OF
STUFF FROM DALTON MCGUINYS AT
THIS'S PLATFORM TO MAKE HIM
LOOK MORE LIKE A CENTRIST.
HE'LL DO THE HARD RIGHT TURN
SOMEHOW BETWEEN NOW AND THE
ELECTION.
I THINK RUTH'S RIGHT.
I THINK HE WILL PROBABLY DO AND
SAY ANYTHING HE CAN TO GET
LECH.
MAYBE DIDN'T GET ENOUGH LOVE AS
A CHILD.
I'M NOT SURE WHAT HAPPENED.

Ruth says THIS IS ABOUT LOWERING THE
TEMPERATURE.
THEY'VE HAD A BAD RUN WITH
THE MAGNA BUDGET.
THIS IS ALL JUST COOL IT OUT.

Richard says AND THIS WILL PROBABLY WORK.

Ruth says AND AGAIN MAKE PEOPLE PUT AN
END TO THE BAD PUBLICITY WE'RE
GETTING AND THE HARD ISSUES AND
WEDGE STUFF CAN COME WHEN WE GO
INTO THE ELECTION CAMPAIGN.

Paula says IS THERE A SENSE
AMONG STRATEGIST, THE IDEA OF
SELLING MIKE HARRIS WHICH WAS
DONE VERY SUCCESSFULLY WHICH
WAS TO TAKE THE PARTY VERY HARD
TO THE RIGHT AND TO MAKE THE
PLATFORM CLEAR CUT.
NOW WHAT WE'RE HEARING IS
SOMEBODY WHO IS WILLING TO LOOK
AT POLITICAL IDEAS ON BOTH
SIDES OF THE SPECTRUM S THERE A
SENSE THAT YOU ARE TRYING TO
BROADEN THE BASE OF SUPPORT?

Blair says LOOK, I MEAN, I THINK THAT,
UM THAT, AS WE, I THINK WE
TALKED ABOUT IT LAST WEEK,
PAULA, OBVIOUSLY ERNIE EVES IS
A DIFFERENT STYLE OF PREMIER
FROM, FROM MIKE HARRIS.
AND, UM, AND I THINK THAT--
THAT-- A LOT OF THAT HAPPENS
BECAUSE WE'RE IN DIFFERENT
ECONOMIC TIMES.
BUT I THINK THAT, I MEAN, IF
THE THRONE SPEECH, ERNIE
RENEWED THE COMMITMENT TO TAX
CUTS AS SORT OF THE CENTERPIECE
OF THE GOVERNMENT'S ECONOMIC
POLICY.
FOR EXAMPLE, ONE OF THE TAX
CUTS IN THE-- OF THE 17 THAT
WERE ANNOUNCE THIS YEAR WAS THE
NEW INITIATIVES TO GIVE SENIORS
A BREAK ON THEIR PROPERTY TAX.
FOR THE EDUCATION PORTION.
SO I THINK THAT THIS GOVERNMENT
REMAINS COMMITTED TO MAKING
SURE THAT A STRONG ECONOMY
CARRIES FORWARD.

Richard says HE'LL HAVE TO DECIDE AT SOME
POINT WHO HE REALLY IS, TO BE
SERIOUS FOR A SECOND.
HE SPENT THE FIRST SIX MONTHS
SAYING HE WASN'T MIKE HARRIS
AND SHOWED THINGS THAT HE
THOUGHT WERE THE ANECDOTE TO
MIKE HARRIS.
CUTTING OFF MIKE'S LEGAL BILLS
AND FLIPPING ON HYDRO.
NOW ABOUT TAX CUTS.
A HARRIS-LIKE MESSAGE.
SOMEHOW BETWEEN NOW AND
ELECTION DAY, IS HE A
CONTINUATION OF THE COMMON
SENSE OF THE MIKE HARRIS OR A
CENTRIST, PROGRESSIVE
MODERATE.
WE DON'T KNOW.

Paula says I WANT TO TALK ABOUT
THE TAX CUTS.
BECAUSE THEY COULD, IN FACT, BE
AN INDICATION OF WHAT'S GOING
ON.
LET'S JUST LISTEN TO THE SPEECH
ON THE THRONE ON THAT MATTER.
TAKE A LOOK.

A clip rolls with the caption "Honourable James Bartleman. Ontario Lieutenant Governor."

James is in his late fifties, clean-shaven and with short straight white hair. He wears glasses, a black suit, white shirt and striped V neck sweater and a gray tie.

He says YOUR GOVERNMENT WILL
CONTINUE TO CUT TAXES, BALANCE
THE BOOKS AND REDUCE DEBT AND
HELP TO CREATE NEW JOBS SO THAT
ONTARIO WILL ENJOY THE
BEST-PERFORMING ECONOMY AND THE
HIGHEST QUALITY OF LIFE-- OF
LIFE IN NORTH AMERICA.
YOUR GOVERNMENT WILL ACHIEVE
THIS GOAL NOT BECAUSE IT IS
IDEA LOGICALLY DRIVEN BUT
MOTIVATED BY VALUES AND
PRINCIPLES.

Paula says THERE IS ERNIE EVES
CONTINUING IN THE TRADITION SET
DOWN BY MIKE HARRIS, RUTH.
SURELY THAT'S CLEAR.

Ruth says YES, AND I WANT TODAY TAKE
ISSUE ABOUT WHAT YOU SAID B HIM
TAKING THINGS ON BOTH SIDE OF
THE SPECTRUM.
THERE AIN'T MUCH-- HE TOOK
THING FROM DALTON MCGUINTY.
THAT'S BLUE LIGHT.
NOT MUCH IN THE THRONE SPEECH
ABOUT INVESTING IN THE PEOPLE
OF THE PROVINCE.
AND RETRAINING THE CUTS ON
PUBLIC SERVICES.
ABOUT REBUILDING THE PUBLIC
INFRASTRUCTURE IN HEALTH CARE.
IT'S VERY MUCH, IF NOT IN THE
TONE OF MIKE HARRIS, IN THE
TRADITION OF MIKE HARRIS.

Blair says WELL, I MEAN, IN TERMS OF
SORT OF REBUILDING
INFRASTRUCTURE, RUTH, I'M NOT
SURE THAT'S A FAIR COMMENT.
BECAUSE OF THE 16 BILLION DOLLARS OF
TAX CUTS, UM, THAT-- THAT, UM
THAT, OUR GOVERNMENT HAS
INTRODUCED SINCE 1995, WE'VE
ACTUALLY HAD 16 BILLION DOLLARS MORE
TO INVEST IN PRIORITY SERVICES

Ruth says WHAT ABOUT THE SERVICE CUTS?

Blair says LIKE HEALTH CARE AND
EDUCATION.
AS YOU KNOW, WE'RE SPENDING
RECORD AMOUNT INSIDE HEALTH
CARE, 28.1 BILLION DOLLARS THIS YEAR.
15.3 IN EDUCATION.

Ruth says THIS IS HOW THEY-- THEY CALL
IT THE AMNESIA BUDGETS.
YOU'RE BEGINNING TO REPAY SOME
OF THE CUTS YOU MADE IN THE
FIRST FEW YEARS.
WE'RE EXPECTED TO APPLAUD THAT.

Richard says IT'S ABSOLUTELY TRUE THE
GOVERNMENT IS SPENDING A LOT
MORE MONEY IN HEALTH CARE THAN
IT WAS A NUMBER OF YEARS AGO.
BUT NOTICE SAME WAY.
WE DIDN'T GET REFORM.
AND ON EDUCATION, UP UNTIL A
YEAR OR TWO AGO, YOU SPENT THE
EXACT SAME MONEY ON EDUCATION
AS THE NDP WAS IN 1994.
SO-- WHICH IS LITERALLY A
DECADE AGO NOW.
SO IT IS A DEATH BED
CONVERSIONS TO SAY WE'RE
PLOUGHING MONEY INTO PUBLIC
EDUCATION.
THAT IS THIS YEAR.
IF AT ALL.

Paula says HELP ME WITH
SOMETHING, THOUGH, BECAUSE BOTH
RUTH AND RICHARD ARE ACCUSING
THE PREMIER OF TRYING TO FIND
OUT WHAT THOSE IN ONTARIO WANT
AND GIVING IT TO THEM.
NOT SO SURE THAT'S SUCH A BAD
IDEA.

Ruth says THOSE IN ONTARIO, THE PEOPLE
IN HIS SECTION OF THE VOTING
PUBLIC.

Paula says DOES THAT MEAN, THEN
THAT, YOU THINK THAT A 3457B8G9
OF THOSE IN ONTARIO WANT-- THAT
THE MAJORITY OF THOSE IN
ONTARIO WANT THE TAX CUTS?
BECAUSE THE OPPOSITION PARTIES
WILL NOT DELIVER THEM IF THEY--
IF THEY GET ELECTED.

Ruth says ASK ANYONE IF THEY WANTS
THEIR TAX CUTS, AND THE EASY
ANSWER IS YES.
BUT IF YOU PUT IT IN THE
CONTEXT THAT TAX CUTS MEANS WE
HAVE A POORER EDUCATION SYSTEM
AND DETERIORATING HEALTH CARE
SYSTEM, THEN MOST SAY NO.
SPEND MY MONEY.
BUT SPEND IT IN THIS WAYS.
NOT IN THE WAY YOU ALWAYS SPENT
IT, WHICH HAS NOT OVERALL
IMPROVED THE LEVEL OF SERVICES.

Paula says WE JUST HEARD TODAY
THE UNIVERSITIES AND COLLEGES
ALONG WITH THE MINISTER
ANNOUNCING THAT PART OF THE
MONEY THAT THEY'VE INVESTED IN
TO SOLVING THE PROBLEM WITH THE
DOUBLE COHORT HAS PAID OFF.

Ruth says WELL, IT'S PAID OFF IN THAT
AS THE MINISTER'S BEEN SAYING
FROM THE BEGINNING, EVERY
STUDENT WHO APPLIES WILL FIND A
PLACE.
BUT I THINK WHEN YOU TALK TO
THOSE WHO ARE BEGINNING TO GET
THEIR ACCEPTANCES BACK, THE
COURSES THEY WANTED, THE
DIRECTION THEY WANTED TO TAKE
FOR THE FUTURE CAREERS IS NOT
NECESSARILY IN THE MAJORITY OF
CASES WHAT THEY'RE GETTING.

Richard says WE ULTIMATELY WON'T KNOW THE
ANSWER TO THE DOUBLE COHORT
ISSUE UNTIL WE GET CLOSER TO
SEPTEMBER.
THERE ARE PEOPLE EITHER IN
PROGRAMS THEY DON'T WANT
WANT-- THEY DON'T WANT TO BE OR
NOT IN PROGRAMS AT ALL.
BUT WE'LL SEE A MAJOR DEBATE ON
THE PARTIES ON TAX CUTS.
THERE'S NO QUESTION THAT THOSE
IN ONTARIO HAVE TAX RELIEF AT
FEDERAL AND PROVINCIAL LEVEL
AND ULTIMATELY MOST PEOPLE
PROBABLY SUPPORT THAT.
THE DEBATE IS NOW DO WE WANT TO
CUT TAXES FURTHER TO TAKE
FURTHER RESOURCES OUT OF, OUT
OF OUR HEALTH CARE AND
EDUCATION ENVIRONMENT?
OR DO WE WANT TO HOLD TAXES THE
WAY THEY ARE NOW AND GO
FORWARD?
AND THE GOVERNMENT WILL BE
SAYING TO CUT TAXES
MORE.
LIBERALS AND THE NEW DEMOCRATS
WILL SAY NO.

Ruth says YOU CAN'T HAVE IT BOTH WAYS.
CAN'T HAVE CUTS AND TAX AND
IMPROVE SERVICES.

Paula says WHAT ARE THE POLLING
NUMBERS SHOW YOU?
LET'S START WITH THE LIBERALS.
DOES IT SHOW YOU THAT CANADIANS
WANT TAX CUTS NO MATTER WHAT?
OR IN THE SUBTLE RESPONSE.

Richard says CERTAINLY PEOPLE WANT TAX
RELIEF.
I THINK IT SHOULD BE FOCUSED
MORE AT THE MIDDLE AND LOWER
INCOME.
BUT ON TRADE UP BETWEEN A TAX
AND SERVICES, PEOPLE OBVIOUSLY
ON HEALTH CARE AND EDUCATION
ENVIRONMENT PREFER THAT.
TO A CUTS IN TAXES.
THE PROBLEM COMES FROM PARTIES
LIKE OURS.
IS THAT THEY DON'T NECESSARILY
BELIEVE THAT GOVERNMENT CAN'T
WALK AND CHEW GUM AT THE SAME
TIME.
BUT AT SOME POINT, AND I THINK
WE'RE AT THAT NOW, THE PUBLIC
SAYS YOU CAN'T FURTHER CUT
TAXES AND REVENUES AND STILL
INVEST IN THE PRIORITY
PROGRAMS.
GOVERNMENT IS CLOSE TO, UM, THE
BULK IN TERMS OF WHAT IT CAN
DO.

Paula says RUTH, WHAT DO YOUR
POLLS SHOW?

Ruth says I AGREE.
I THINK THE PUBLIC HAS COME TO
UNDERSTAND THAT YOU CAN'T HAVE
IT BOTH WAYS.
SO CERTAINLY POT PEOPLE WHO ARE
R INCLINED TO VOTE NDP, AND I'M
NOT TALKING ABOUT THOSE PEOPLE
WHO ARE OBVIOUSLY IN THE TORY
UNIVERSE, UM, THERE'S A SENSE
THAT-- THAT IT IS NOW MORE
IMPORTANT TO-- TO REBUILD AND
TO BE ABLE TO BE SURE THAT--
THAT THE SERVICES ARE THERE
WHEN WE NEED THEM.
I MEAN, ALL OF THIS TALK ABOUT,
UM, ABOUT, ABOUT ABOLISHING
MANDATORY RETIREMENT AND
ALLOWING PEOPLE TO WORK UNTIL
THEY'RE 65 AND THAT'S IN THE
THRONE SPEECH.
FOR THE MAJORITY OF PEOPLE,
WILL I HAVE A SECURE PENSION.
WILL THAT PENSION BE INDEXED?
THAT'S WHAT THE NDP IS SAYING
WE'LL DO.

Paula says SO OBVIOUSLY I'LL
SHOW THAT THE TORY POLLS ARE
SHOWING THOUGHT MAJORITY OF
SUPPORTERS WANTS TO SEE TAX
CUTS.
THAT'S WHY WE'LL SEE THEM.

Blair says I THINK CUTTING TAXES IS-- IS
THE RIGHT THING FOR OUR
GOVERNMENT TO DO.
I THINK THAT THE RECORD OF THIS
GOVERNMENT SINCE 1995 HAS SHOWN
BY CUTTING TAXES YOU'LL CREATE
JOBS AND REVENUES ARE GOING TO
GO UP.
AS A RESULT OF HAVING THAT SORT
OF STRONG ECONOMIC FOUNDATION,
WE CAN INVEST IN THOSE AND IN
PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE.
I WANT TO ADDRESS THE ISSUE OF
THE DOUBLE COHORT.

Richard says IT'S TRUE.
BECAUSE THE RECORD WILL SHOW
THAT CUTTING TAXES AND-- AND
THE RECORD WILL SHOW THAT
CUTTING TAXES AS MR. JUSTICE
O'CONNOR SAID, WE TOOK MONEY
OUT OF THE ENVIRONMENT AND THAT
LED TO THE DEATHS IN WALKERTON.
THE RUBBER HITS THE ROAD OF
WHEN YOU CUT TAXES AND WHERE
YOU CUT SERVICES.
WE'RE AT THIS POINT.
AT THIS POINT, EVERY POLITICIAN
WOULD LOVE TO SAY WE CAN CUT
TAXES.
HOWARD HAMPTON AND DALTON
MCGUINTY AT THIS WOULD LOVE TO
DO IT, BUT WE CAN'T AFFORD IT.

Blair says IT'S VERY EASY FOR RICHARD TO
FALL BACK ON WALKERTON.
BUT OBVIOUSLY THE ISSUES
LEADING UP TO WALKERTON.
THERE WERE ISSUES THAT AROSE
WHEN THE CONSERVATIVES WERE IN
POWER.
ISSUES THAT STEM BACK TO THE
NDP AND LIBERAL GOVERNMENTS.
BOTTOM LINE ON WALKERTON IS
THAT THIS GOVERNMENT HAS TAKEN
ACTION AND IN THE THRONE SPEECH
AGAIN, THERE WAS ANOTHER, IT
WAS STATED AGAIN THAT WE INTEND
TO IMPLEMENT ALL OF THE
RECOMMENDATIONS SET OUT IN
JUSTICE ON CONNOR'S REPORT.

Paula says I WANT TO TALK A LITTLE
BIT ABOUT THE ACCUSATIONS
FLYING AFTER THE THRONE SPEECH.
THEFT-- THEFT, THEFT,
OUTRAGEOUS BURGLARY.
YOUR GOVERNMENT WAS ACCUSED OF
STEALING, ESPECIALLY FROM THE
LIBERAL PLATFORM.
RICHARD, GIVE US THE TOP THREE
THINGS THAT YOU THINK WERE
BURGLARED.

Richard says I GUESS THE FIRST THING WAS
THE HOSPITAL WAITING TIMES.
UM, DALTON MCGUINTY AT THIS HAS
PUT A GUARANTEE IN HIS PLATFORM
ON THAT.
THE GOVERNMENT HAS NOW TAKEN
THAT UP IN THEIR THRONE SPEECH.
IT'S A GOOD IDEA.
IMITATION IS THE HIGHEST FORM
OF FLATTERY.
BUT THESE GUYS HAVE BEEN IN
GOVERNMENT SINCE 1995 AND STILL
81 percent OF CANCER PATIENTS DON'T
GET TREATMENT WHEN, IN THE TIME
THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO.
UM, THE SECOND THING IS THAT,
ACTUALLY, MANDATORY RETIREMENT
ISSUE IS-- IS ALSO THING THAT
WAS IN, UM, WAS IN THE LIBERAL
PLATFORM.
LIST GOES ON.
I MEAN--

Paula says SO IS THAT WHAT
HAPPENED?
DID YOU SIT THERE WITH THE
LIBERAL PLATFORM AND SAY THIS
ONE LOOKS GOOD?
THIS ONE LOOKS FOOD.
WE'LL GO WITH THAT.

Blair says WE DIDN'T STEAL THE LIBERALS
TAX AND SPEND POLICIES.
OBVIOUSLY THERE'S SOME GOOD
IDEAS IN THE-- IN THE, UM, IN
THE, IN THE THRONE SPEECH.
AND I CAN TELL YOU THAT UNLIKE
THE LIBERALS, OUR GOVERNMENT
HAS, CLEARLY HAS A PLAN TO PAY
FOR THEM.

Ruth says BUT WE LOVE TO SEE THIS
ACCUSATION OF THEM-- I MEAN,
WE'VE ALWAYS SAID THAT YOU
REALLY CAN'T TELL THE
DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE EVES'
CONSERVATIVES AND DALTON
MCGUINTY AT THIS LIBERALS.
ONLY PARTY THAT IS SUPPORTING
AND LOOKING FOR PUBLIC PARTY
AND RESTORATION OF PUBLIC
SERVICE ARE THE NEW DEMOCRATS.

Paula says AREN'T YOU AT RISK,
BLAIR, WHEN YOU DO TAKE
POLICIES THAT SEEM MORE CENTRE
OR LEFT OF CENTRE THAT, UM,
THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE
SIGNALLING TO THOSE IN ONTARIO
THAT, FIRST OF ALL, YOU LIKE
THE IDEAS, SOME OF THE IDEAS OF
LIBERALS.
I'M SURE YOU LIKE THE POLICY
PAPERS THAT YOU PUT OUT, AND DO
YOU RISK THEN THE VOTERS
SAYING, IF THEY LIKE THE
LIBERAL IDEAS AND WE REALLY
WANT THE LIBERALS , THEY’LL GO
FOR THE REAL THING?

Blair says NO, BECAUSE AT THE END OF
THE DAY, PAULA, THINK WHEN
PEOPLE STEP UP TO THE VOTING
BOOTH AT ELECTION TIME, THEY'RE
GOING TO BE FACED WITH THE
CHOICE OF WHICH LEADER THEY
WANT TO BE PREMIER.
EVES OR MCGUINTY AT THIS AND--
I THINK WHEN PEOPLE TAKE A LOOK
AT WHO IS GOING TO KEEP
ONTARIO'S ECONOMY STRONG SO
THAT WE CAN KEEP MOVING
FORWARD, THEY'RE GOING TO
CHOOSE ERNIE EVES.

Richard says IN RESPONSE TO BOTH OF THEM.
I'M NOT WORRIED IN THE ELECTION
CAMPAIGN.
PEOPLE WON'T BE ABLE TO TELL
THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN MCGUINTY
AT THIS'S LIBERALS AND EVES'
TORY.
YOU HAVE ONE GOVERNMENT THAT'S
RUN OUT OF STEAM AND IDEAS AND
WILL SAY ANYTHING TO GET
ELECTED.
A NEW LEADER WITH NEW ENERGY
AND NEW IDEAS WHO REPRESENTS
CHANGE IN THE PROVINCE.
YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY WILL PEOPLE
WILL CHOOSE ON THAT.
NOT EVERYONE WILL VOTE FOR THE
LIBERALS AND TORIES AND NEW
DEMOCRATS.
BUT I FEEL PRETTY CONFIDENT
THAT THERE WILL BE A CLEAR
CHOICE BETWEEN KNOWS TWO TEAMS
AND THOSE TWO LEADERS.

Paula says HE FEELS CONFIDENT,
BECAUSE, OF COURSE, THE POLLS
ARE SHOWING THAT THE
PROGRESSIVE CONSERVATIVES ARE
TRAILING ABOUT 19 POINTS BEHIND
THE LIBERAL PARTY RIGHT NOW.
ARE YOU GOING TO GET SOME
POLITICAL POINTS OUT OF THE
THRONE SPEECH?

Blair says I THINK THE THRONE SPEECH IS
ONE MORE STEP IN THE PROCESS OF
US WINNING A THIRD CONSECUTIVE
MAJORITY GOVERNMENT.
I THINK THAT WE'LL CERTAINLY
GET A POWERFUL BALANCE OUT OF
THE THRONE SPEECH.
I THINK THE SPRING LEGISLATIVE
SESSION WILL PROVIDE US WITH
FURTHER MOMENTUM.
WE'LL WAIT TO SEE WHAT HAPPENS
WHEN THE ELECTION IS CALLED.

Paula says RUTH.
BOUNCING.
IS THERE BOUNCE COMING FROM
THIS?

Ruth says I DON'T THINK THERE'S MUCH
BOUNCE.
BUT I'M BACK TO WHAT THEY NEED
IS A CALMING AND STOPPING OF
ALL THE NOISE AND CRITICISM.
AND I THINK THAT THEY'RE GOING
TO LET THAT HAPPEN FOR A WHILE.
I THINK THEY PROBABLY GOT THAT
WITH THE THRONE SPEECH.
PEOPLE WERE NULLIFIED THAT THE
WEDGE ISSUES WEREN'T THERE.
GOOD ISSUES WEREN'T THERE
EITHER.
THEY'LL DO THAT FOR A WHILE.
THEN WE'LL BE INTO A CAMPAIGN
WHERE ALL OF THE WEDGE ISSUES
AND THE TRUE CHARACTER AND THE
TRUE EFFECTS OF TAX CUTS, UM,
WILL BE APPARENT.

Richard says YEAH, IT WON'T-- I MEAN IT,
WILL, AS RUTH SAYS, CALM THINGS
DOWN.
REMEMBER, THE GOVERNMENT'S LAST
MAJOR INITIATIVE WAS THE
BUDGET.
WHICH WAS A COMPLETE FLAM-OUT.
SO YES, IT WILL CALM DOWN.
I DO THINK THAT THERE'S A
GROWING SENSE THAT, UM, THAT
THESE GUYS ARE OUT OF STEAM AND
ARE OUT OF IDEAS AND WILL KIND
OF RUN AROUND AND SAY JUST
ABOUT ANYTHING THEY CAN TO GET
ELECTED.
UM, BUT THE TEMPERATURE WILL
PROBABLY GO UNDER A BIT.
TEMPERATURE WILL LAURA BIT AND,
UM, AND-- AND PRESUMABLY-- WILL
LOWER A LIT AND PRESUMABLY
WILL PICK UP IN THE SUMMER.

Paula says I WANT TO TALK ABOUT
SOMEONE WHO HANDLED A LOT OF
STEAM.
HANDLE A DIFFICULT SITUATION.
I'M TALKING ABOUT SARS.
HANDLE IT WELL.
TONY CLEMENT WAS GIVEN A RARE
STANDING OVATION FROM MEMBERS
OF ALL THREE PARTIES THIS WEEK.
THE HEALTH MINISTER WAS JUST
OFF THE PLANE FROM GENEVA WHERE
HE HELPED TO CONVINCE THE WORLD
HEALTH ORGANIZATION TO LIFT ITS
TRAVEL BAN ON TORONTO.
THIS WAS THE SCENE IN THE
LEGISLATURE AS MEMBERS ROSE
TO GREET HIM WITH A-- APPLAUSE.
TAKE A LOOK.

A fast clip shows a standing ovation in the legislature.

The caption changes to "Tony Clement. Ontario Minister of Health."

Tony is in his mid-forties, clean-shaven and with short wavy graying hair. He wears glasses, a black suit, striped shirt and patterned tie.

He says IN TRUTH, IT'S A TESTAMENT
TO THE HARD WORK OF OUR PUBLIC
HEALTH OFFICIALS, THE HARD WORK
OF OUR MEDICAL PROFESSIONALS.
BECAUSE BELIEVE ME, WE WOULD
NOT HAVE HAD A CHANCE IN GENEVA
WITH THE W.H.O. IF OUR HEALTH
CARE PROFESSIONALS DIDN'T DO
OUR JOB.
IF NUB SHOULD BE DOING A
VICTORY LAPS, IT'S THE DOCTORS
AND NURSES AND PUBLIC HEALTH
OFFICIALS.
BECAUSE THEY KEPT US IN THE
GAME.

Brian O’Riordan says SINCE THE WHO ADVISORY CAME
DOWN, I THINK OF THE GOVERNMENT
HAS MOVED WITH TREMENDOUS
DISPATCH.
I THINK THEY-- WE HAVE TO
RECOGNIZE THAT THIS WAS A
TREMENDOUS, UM, TRIUMPH O GET
THE WHO VISOR, UM, TAKEN OFF AS
QUICKLY AS THEY DID.
AND TONY CLEMENT REALLY JUMPED
ON THAT.
THEY'VE REALLY SHOWED UP THE
FEDERAL GOVERNMENT ON THIS.

Paula says YOU KNOW, THERE'S
BEEN CRITICISM OF ALL THREE
LEVELS OF GOVERNMENT.
BUT RICHARD, THE LIBERALS, ON
THEIR FEET, GIVING TONY CLEMENT
THEIR OPPONENTS A REALLY WARM
WELCOME.
HOW COME?

Richard says WELL, I THINK THAT-- THAT,
UM, I THINK, FIRST OF ALL, HE
DESERVED IT.
UM, ONE OF THE INTERESTING
IMPACTS OF THE SARS EPISODE IS
WE'VE BEEN CRITICAL OF ALL
LEVELS OF GOVERNMENT AS YOU
SAY.
BUT I'VE SAID BEFORE THIS SHOW
I THINK CLEMENT HAS HAD IT
RIGHT FROM THE BEGINNING.
I THINK THAT-- THAT HIS TONE IS
RIGHT.
I THINK THAT HE HAS WORKED HARD
ON THE JOB.
I THINK UNLIKE THE PREMIER, UM,
WHO HAS HAD-- WHO SEEMED TONE
DEAF ON THIS STUFF, HE REALIZED
THERE WAS A JOB FOR POLITICIANS
TO DO.
NOT TO PUT PEOPLE IN QUARANTINE
OR TO DO THE MEDICAL JOB,
THAT'S THE JOB OF THE
PROFESSIONALS.
BUT RATHER TO LEAD.
AND, UM, I THINK HE DID A GOOD
JOB.
I THINK HE DESERVES SOME
CONGRATULATIONS.
MAYBE THE TORIES MADE THE WRONG
CHOICE LAST YEAR.

Paula says WE DID-- WE'LL TALK
ABOUT THE-- ABOUT THAT LATER.
DAVE CHRISTOPHERSON ON HIS FEET
FOR THE NDP. NOBODY ELSE.
HOW COME?

Ruth says I DON'T KNOW.
I MUST CONFESS I DIDN'T NOTICE
THAT.
BUT I THOUGHT THAT IT WAS
JUSTIFIED.
AND I WAS PLEASED TO SEE THAT
THERE WAS STILL SOME
CAMARADERIE OR ENOUGH RESPECT
IN THE LEGISLATURE, WHICH HAS
BEEN VERY MUCH DESTROYED IN THE
LAST FEW YEARS.
I THINK AS RICHARD SAID THAT
CLEMENT HANDLE IT WELL.
I THINK WE'VE SEEN A DIFFERENT
CLEMENT.
WHEN YOU GO OVER THE WRONG
CHOICE.
HE'S CERTAINLY SMOOTHED OVER
SOME OF HIS ROUGH EDGES AND I
FOUND AN INTEREST THAT'S OF
VITAL INTEREST TO ME.
ENDORSED A CANCER PREVENTION
PLAN.
SO I, FOR THE FIRST TIME IN MY
LIFE, I'M NOT LIKELY TO BE
CRITICAL OF TONY CLEMENT TODAY.

Paula says NOT TODAY.
PLAYER, YOU HEARD RICHARD SAY
IT.
CERTAINLY OTHER CRITICS HAVE
POINTED IT OUT, PARTICULARLY
IN THE NEWSPAPER, SUGGESTIONS
THAT THE PREMIER WASN'T THERE
SOON ENOUGH.
WASN'T A SUFFICIENT LEADER.
DO YOU THINK HE'S GOING TO
BENEFIT FROM THE FACT THAT TONY
CLEMENT HAS DONE A GOOD JOB?
OR IS SEEN TO HAVE DONE A GOOD
JOB ON THIS ISSUE?

Blair says I DISAGREE WITH THAT
QUESTION, PAULA.
BECAUSE I THINK EVES AND
CLEMENT SHOWED TREMENDOUS
LEADERSHIP ON THIS ISSUE FROM
DAY ONE.
UM, THAT'S WHY, UM, WELL,
I-- THINK THIS CAN BE DIVIDE
FOOD TWO SORT OF PHASES IF YOU
WILL.
AND I THINK THAT THE FIRST SORT
OF PHASE OF DEALING WITH SARS
WAS TO MAKE SURE THAT PUBLIC
HEALTH WAS PROTECTED.
THAT'S WHY THE PREMIER TOOK
ACTION IMMEDIATELY TO IMPOSE A
PROVINCIAL EMERGENCY ON MARCH 2
26TH.
SO THAT WE WOULD HAVE THE
NECESSARY HEALTH CARE RESOURCES
TARGETED AT, AT DEALING WITH
THIS ISSUE.
UM, OBVIOUSLY TWO DOCTORS HAVE
BEEN DOING A TREMENDOUS JOB.
UM, IN DEALING WITH THE
QUARANTINE ISSUES THAT, UM,
THAT-- THAT, UM THAT, MANY
PEOPLE HAVE HAD TO FACE.
AND NOW I THINK THAT
WE'VE TURNED THE CORNER, UM, ON
SARS, ACCORDING TO SOME OF THE
MEDICAL EXPERTS, UM, I THINK
THAT-- THAT, DEPEND, BOTH TONY
CLEMENT AND THE PREMIER HAVE
SHOWN LEADERSHIP THROUGH THINGS
LIKE TONY'S TRIP TO GENEVA.
THROUGH THINGS LIKE THE
PREMIER'S ANNOUNCEMENT OF THE
SARS ASSISTANCE AND RECOVERY
ACT.
WHICH WAS--

Paula says WHY DOES IT SEEM THAT
THERE WAS MORE COMPENSATION IN
THE THRONE SPEECH, THOUGH, THAN
THERE WAS IN THE STATEMENTS
THAT THE PREMIER MADE GOING
INTO IT?

Blair says I DON'T KNOW.
I THINK THAT THE, AGAIN, THE
SARS-- I THINK THE LEGISLATION
THAT WAS PASSED.
AND, UM TO, GIVE CREDIT, THE
NDP WAS THE ONE THAT CALLED FOR
THE UNANIMOUS MOTION SO THAT
THE BILL COULD GO THROUGH IN
THAT DAY.
UM, BUT THAT LEGISLATION IS
REALLY THE THIRD STEP, UM, IN A
NUMBER OF ANNOUNCEMENTS THAT
HAVE BEEN MADE.
WE SAW THE PREMIER ANNOUNCE A
COMPENSATION PACKAGE LATE LAST
WEEK.
THERE WAS A FURTHER
ANNOUNCEMENT EARLIER THIS WEEK
OF 118 MILLION DOLLARS TO PROMOTE
ONTARIO AND TORONTO TOURISM AND
THEN FINALLY THE PASSAGE OF THE
LEGISLATION.
SO I THINK THAT WE'VE TAKEN
ACTION.

Ruth says BUT, PAULA, HAVING OPINION--

Paula says BEFORE WE GO, I WANT
TO YOU COMMENT ON THIS PRECISE
POINTS THAT I KNOW YOU'RE GOING
TO BRING UP.
THERE HAVE BEEN CRITICISMS,
NEVERTHELESS, OF THE WAY THE
ONTARIO GOVERNMENT HAS HANDLED
THIS.
SOME COMING FROM THE NURSES AND
FRONT LINE HEALTH CARE WORKERS.
I WONDERED IF WE COULD TAKE A
LOOK AT THIS.

A fast clip rolls with the caption "Doris Grinspun. Registered Nurses Association of Ontario."

Doris is in her early fifties, with short wavy red hair. She wears glasses, a white top and an orange jacket.

She says OVERALL, I WOULD SAY ONTARIO
HAS PROVIDED A SOUND LEADERSHIP
IN-- IN, UM, IN KEEPING SARS
IN-- IN-- CONTAINED IN THE WAY
THAT WE HAVE.
AT THE SAME TIME, THOUGH, I
BELIEVE THAT THE SARS OUTBREAK
HAS, UM, HAS A HIGHLIGHTED
VERY NAKEDLY SOME
DEFICIENCIES OF THE SYSTEM.

Paula says RUTH.
THANK YOU FOR LETTING ME RUN
THAT.
WHAT ARE THE DEFICIENCIES THAT
SHE'S TALKING ABOUT?

Ruth says THAT WAS EXACTLY THE POINT I
WAS GOING TO MAKE.
BECAUSE BEING GENEROUS TO TONY
CLEMENT, THIS THING HAS SHOWN
HOW VERY THINLY STRETCHED THE
WHOLE SYSTEM IS AND THE
CUTBACKS NOT JUST IN THE NUMBER
OF NURSES THAT THERE ARE.
I MEAN, I TALK TO SOMEBODY
WORKING IN AN INTENSIVE CARE
UNIT.
WHERE AS THEY USED TO HAVE
THREE PATIENT THAT IS THEY WERE
IN CHARGE OF.
THEY NOW HAVE FIVE.
SO THE TIME TO DO THE EXTRA
HAND WASHING AND THE PUTTING ON
OF THE PREPARATION IS JUST NOT
THERE.
DISEASE CONTROL PLANS ARE NOT
THERE.
AND THE DEVASTATION OF PUBLIC
HEALTH, I MEAN, A DOCTOR IN
TORONTO HAS DONE A MAGNIFICENT
JOB OF TRYING TO KEEP THE
BUDGET FOR HEALTH IN TORONTO.
IT'S A MUNICIPAL POLITICIANS AS
WELL AS THE PROVINCIAL HAVE
ALWAYS WANTED TO CUT.
BUT WE HAVE NOT GIVEN PUBLIC
HEALTH AND PREVENTION THE IMPETUS AND THE
EMPHASIS THAT YOU
SAY IT NEEDS.
I HOPE THIS REVIEW OF SARS THAT
THEY'LL DO LOOKS AT NOW HOW WE
JUST HANDLED THE SHORT TIME
SPRAIN OF SARS BUT HOW WE GOT
TO THE SITUATION THAT PUT THE
STRESS ON NURSES AND HEALTH
OFFICIAL THAT IS IT HAS.

Richard says RUTH HAS A GOOD POINT THERE.
WE SPEND A LOT OF MONEY IN THIS
COUNTRY AND PROVINCIAL OFTEN
HEALTH CARE.
AND-- THERE ARE MANY, THERE'S A
LOT OF COMPETITION FOR EACH
HEALTH CARE DOLLAR.
PUBLIC HEALTH, WHICH IS ON
DISEASE PREVENTION AND WHAT TO
DO ABOUT THESE OUTBREAKS AND
DISEASES IS NEVER AT THE TOP OF
THE LIST.
HOSPITALS ARE AT THE TOP OF THE
LIST.
MORE DOCTORS AND NURSES.
MORE DRUGS.
AND ALL OF THOSE THINGS WHICH
ARE MORE DEMAND FOCUSED.
WE PROBABLY WERE, IF ANYTHING,
A LITTLE THIN ON THE GROUND IN
TERMS OF DEALING WITH THIS.
WE MAY HAVE GOT LUCKY SOMETIMES
AND WE MAY HAVE BEEN SHORT
SOMETIMES.
AND WE'LL NEED A PUBLIC HEALTH
CHARTER, UM TO, LOOK AT THIS.
THAT-- THAT AS RUTH SAYS, THERE
WILL BE A LOT OF LESSONS COMING
OUT WHERE WE DID GOOD WORK AND
A LOT OF LESSONS WHERE WE
DIDN'T HAVE ENOUGH RESOURCES.

Paula says MAYBE THE FEDERAL
LIBERALS SHOULD HAVE OFFERED UP
MORE MONEY TO DEAL WITH THE
MEDICAL EMERGENCY.
SOME MONEY.

Richard says I THINK THAT-- THAT THE
FEDERAL LIBERALS, WHAT WE SAW
IN PLACE HERE WERE THERE LOTS
OF WAYS IN WHICH THE FEDERAL
GOVERNMENT QUIETLY WORKED WITH
THE PROVINCIAL HEALTH MINISTRY
AND THAT WORKED.
SHOULD THERE BE--

Ruth says THAT'S NOT WHAT SHEILA COPPS
SAID.

Richard says
BUT IT'S WHAT TONY CLEMENT
SAID.
BUT YOU MAY NEED TO HAVE PUBLIC
STANDARDS ON FEDERAL HEALTH
THAT FUND AND ALSO, UM, SET A
BASE-LEVEL OF STANDARD IN EACH
PROVINCE ACROSS THE COUNTRY.

Paula says PLAYER, WHAT WOULD
YOU HAVE PREFERRED.
QUIET ASSISTANCE BEHIND THE
SCENES OR LOUD MONEY?

Blair says I THINK OUR GOVERNMENT HAS
BEEN ASKING THE FEDERAL
GOVERNMENT FOR, FOR, UM, FOR
ASSISTANCE, UM, ON THIS, ON THIS
ISSUE SINCE DAY ONE.
UM, AND-- AND, UM, BUT I GAVE--
I THINK TO GIVE THE MINISTER
MCCALLUM HER DUE, I THINK
SHE'S DONE AN INCREDIBLE JOB ON
BEHALF OF THE FEDERAL
GOVERNMENT ON ISSUES LIKE THE
WHO TRAVEL ADVISORY.
I DON'T THINK THAT-- THINK THAT
THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT MOVED
PAST ENOUGH ON THE ISSUE OF
AIRPORT SCREENING.
BUT I-- ANYWAY, I DON'T THINK
THAT YOU CAN ENTIRELY BLAME,
UM, BLAME MINISTER MCCALLUM FOR
THAT.
I DO WANTS TO ADDRESS THE ISSUE
OF PUBLIC HEALTH, WHICH WAS
RAISED BY RUTH.
JUST TO SAY THAT OUR GOVERNMENT
IS SPENDING 800 MILLION DOLLARS A YEAR
ON PUBLIC HEALTH.
WHICH IS, AGAIN, A FUNDING AT
RECORD LEVELS.
AND, UM, AND-- AND CONTRARY TO
WHAT'S BEEN SUGGESTED HERE, WE
HAVE INVESTED IN FRONT LINE
SERVICES OVER THE LAST EIGHT
YEARS.
THAT'S WHY, FOR EXAMPLE, THERE
ARE 12,000 MORE NURSE INSIDE
THIS PROVINCE TODAY THAN THERE
WERE IN 1995.

Ruth says YOU CUT 10,000 AS SOON AS
YOU TOOK OFFICE.
YOU CUT THE LABS THAT WOULD
HAVE DONE THE TESTING THAT WE
NEED FOR SOMETHING LIKE
VIRUSES.
IT WAS ELIMINATED BY JIM WILSON
IN HIS FIRST SORT OF MONTHS OF
OFFICE.
SO THAT THIS-- THERE'S BEEN
CUTS THAT HAVE BEEN MADE SEVEN
OR EIGHT YEARS AGO THAT PEOPLE
HAVE NOW FORGOTTEN ABOUT.
AND TO TAKE CREDIT FOR HAVING,
BEGINNING TO RESTORE SOME OF
THOSE IS JUST NOT GOING TO
WASH.

Paula says LAST 20 SECOND TO
BLAIR.

Blair says THE OTHER ISSUE I WANT TODAY
ADDRESS IS THE SARS LEGISLATION
THAT WAS INTRODUCED AGAIN THIS
WEEK, UM, WILL MAKE SURE THAT
THE GOVERNMENT HAS ADDITIONAL
POWERS UNDER THE HEALTH
PROTECTION AND PROMOTION ACT
AND THE EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT
ACT TO MAKE SURE WE CAN DEAL
WITH THESE ISSUES AGAIN SHOULD
WE HAVE THE MISFORTUNE OF
DEALING WITH THIS TYPE OF
ISSUE.

Paula says LAST WORD TO BLAIR
MCCREADIE AND HE RUTH GRIER AND
RICHARD MAHONEY.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR BEING
HERE.
THAT'S OUR SHOW FOR THIS WEEK.
JOIN US AGAIN NEXT TIME FOR
ANOTHER EDITION OF "4TH
READING."

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