Transcript: Alex Pattakos on Freedom and Responsibility | Oct 07, 2006

(Theme music plays)

In animation, the title "Big Ideas" appears on screen on a dynamic green background.

Next, Andrew appears in a studio. He’s in his late thirties with short black hair and he is clean-shaven. He wears a brown suit and a blue shirt.

Andrew says HELLO, I'M ANDREW
MOODIE AND THIS IS BIG IDEAS.
ON SEPTEMBER 13th 2006 A YOUNG
MALE WITH A GUN WALKED INTO
DAWSON'S COLLEGE MONTREAL AND
RANDOMLY SHOT AT INNOCENT
BYSTANDERS.
IT WAS A SENSELESS ACT THAT
RENDERED THE UNIVERSE AT THAT
MOMENT CRUEL AND SEEMINGLY
MEANINGLESS.
WE UNDERSTAND THAT NO MATTER
HOW GOOD OF A PERSON YOU ARE OR
HOW HARD YOU WORK OR HOW WELL
YOU TREAT OTHERS SOMETIMES VERY
BAD THINGS CAN HAPPEN TO YOU.
OVER THE YEARS I'VE MET PEOPLE
WHO HAVE HAD TRULY HORRIFIC
THINGS HAPPEN TO THEM.
A POLITICAL PRISONER WHO WAS
SHOT AND LEFT FOR DEAD AND HE
SURVIVES.
A HUSBAND WHO LOSES HIS WIFE TO
A TERMINAL DISEASE.
A WOMAN WHOSE SISTER IS
MURDERED BY HER BOYFRIEND UH, A
YOUNG FEMALE WHO WAS SEXUALLY
ASSAULTED BY HER BABY-SITTER'S
HUSBAND.
AND I CAN'T HELP BUT THINK THAT
THERE ARE THINGS THAT CAN
HAPPEN TO YOU IN LIFE THAT
SHADOW YOU FOREVER.
THINGS THAT YOU CAN NEVER
RECOVER FROM.
OUR SPEAKER TODAY BEGS TO
DISAGREE.
HE BELIEVES DEEPLY IN AN
APPROACH CALLED LOGOTHERAPY
THAT CAN HELP BRING BACK A
SENSE OF MEANING TO THOSE WHO
FEEL THEIR LIVES ARE
MEANINGLESS OR TOO SHATTERED TO
BE MEANINGFUL.
ALEX PATTAKOS IS THE AUTHOR OF
PRISONER OF OUR
THOUGHTS.
VIKTOR FRANKL'S
PRINCIPLES AT WORK.
LOGOS THERAPY WAS DEVELOPED BY
VIKTOR FRANKL AN AUSTRIAN
PSYCHIATRIST.
FRANKL'S BOOK, MAN'S
SEARCH FOR MEANING
WAS PUBLISHED IN 1946 AND IT
DETAILED HIS EXPERIENCE AT
AUSCHWITZ WHERE HE LOST HIS
MOTHER, HIS FATHER AND HIS WIFE
AND IN THE MIDST OF THIS MOST
HORRIFIC, HORRIFIC CONDITION HE
RECONFIRMED FOR HIMSELF THAT
IT'S NOT OUR CIRCUMSTANCES BUT
OUR RESPONSE TO THEM THAT
ACCOUNTS FOR THE MEANING WE
DERIVE FROM OUR EXPERIENCES.
NOT AN EASY LESSON TO ACCEPT.
LET'S SEE IF ALEX PATTAKOS CAN
MAKE IT HAPPEN.

Alex appears next at a conference. He’s in his fifties. He has short grey hair and a moustache. He wears glasses, a black suit, white shirt and contrasting tie.

Alex says LET ME START
OUT BY MENTIONING THAT IN MY
VIEW AND THIS IS NOT ANYTHING
THAT I THINK YOU PROBABLY
DISAGREE WITH ESPECIALLY SINCE
YOU'RE COMING TO THIS LECTURE
THAT THERE'S A CRY FOR MEANING
IN THE 21st CENTURY AND THIS
CRY FOR MEANING CAN BE HEARD
VERY LOUD AND CLEAR.
AND I'M SEEING IT BECAUSE I'VE
HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO GO AROUND
THE WORLD NOW, GO NOT JUST IN
CORPORATE AMERICA AND
CORPORATIONS OUTSIDE OF NORTH
AMERICA BUT I'M SEEING THIS IN
NON TROPHIC SECTOR, I'M SEEING
THIS IN THE PUBLIC GOVERNMENTAL
SECTORS THAT PEOPLE IN SPITE OF
MATERIAL AFFLUENCE THEY FEEL
UNFULFILLED.
THERE ARE THINGS HAPPENING EVEN
THOUGH PEOPLE HAVE A STANDARD
OF LIVING PARTICULARLY THOSE OF
US THAT ARE IN THE WEST THAT
NORMALLY WE THINK WELL, JEEZ,
WE'RE DOING PRETTY WELL OVERALL
BUT PEOPLE STILL FEEL EMPTY,
THEY FEEL UNFULFILLED.
THERE'S A CRISIS OF MEANING IN
OUR WORK LIVES, IN OUR PERSONAL
LIVES, IN OUR COMMUNITIES, IN
OUR NATIONS AND THERE'S SOME
THINGS HERE THAT IN POSTMODERN
SOCIETY THAT I WOULD SAY ARE
NOT JUST A CRY FOR MEANING BUT
WE'RE ACTUALLY EXPERIENCING A
CRISIS OF MEANING.
AND THIS CRISIS OF MEANING IN
NO SMALL WAY LEADS TO A
POPULATION THAT IS
DISCONNECTED, DISENCHANTED AND
AS I SAID UNFULFILLED.
SO THIS IDEA OF WHAT I'M GOING
TO SHARE WITH YOU TONIGHT, THIS
MEANING DIFFERENCE IS A COMPASS
IF YOU WILL TO HELP US TO KIND
OF GET ON TRACK AND TO
HOPEFULLY INSPIRE AND MOTIVATE
OTHERS TO DO THE SAME THING.
YOU'LL ALSO BE INTERESTED TO
KNOW THAT RECENTLY THERE WAS A
BOOK THAT CAME OUT CALLED
MEGA TRENDS 2010.
AND ONE OF THE MEGA TRENDS
THAT'S IN THE LATEST BOOK
MEGA TRENDS 2010 HAS
FOUND THAT THE SEARCH FOR
MEANING, THE SEARCH FOR MEANING
WILL HELP FOSTER A MORAL
TRANSFORMATION OF CAPITALISM.
SO THINK ABOUT THAT FOR A
SECOND IF WE CAN START TO GUIDE
BUSINESS, IF WE CAN START TO
GUIDE GOVERNMENT IN A
MEANINGFUL WAY, WE ACTUALLY
MAYBE CAN TRANSFORM
CAPITALISTIC THINKING AND
BEHAVIOURS THAT ACTUALLY HAVE
MORE SOCIAL JUSTICE AND MORE
OPPORTUNITY FOR PEOPLE TO RAISE
THEIR STANDARDS AND THEIR
QUALITY OF LIFE.
AND SO I MEAN, THIS IS AN
IMPORTANT PIECE I MEAN, THE
FACT THAT THIS IS EVEN
IDENTIFIED AS A MEGA TREND
IS PRETTY REMARKABLE TO ME, ISN'T IT?
NOW I'M NOT SURE I JUST HEARD
BEFORE COMING TO THE CAMPUS

A caption reads "Alex Pattakos. Author of the book Prisoners of our thoughts: Viktor Frankl’s Principles at work."

Alex continues TODAY THAT
THIS EVENING THAT UH, THE ENRON
TRIAL IS OVER.
ALL RIGHT, THE VERDICT IS IN.
AND UH, THE TWO MAIN CULPRITS
HAVE BEEN FOUND GUILTY.
NOW WHETHER OR NOT THAT'S A
SIGNAL IT HAPPENS TO HAPPEN THE
SAME DAY AS THIS LECTURE MAYBE

The caption changes to "University of Toronto. May 25, 2006."

Alex continues THIS IS JUST

- THIS IS THE TURNING POINT IN
THE MORAL TRANSFORMATION OF
CAPITALISM. BUT MEGA TRENDS
2010 ALSO SAID SOMETHING ELSE.
THAT THERE'S A POWER OF
SPIRITUALITY AND SPIRITUALITY
IN PARTICULAR IN BUSINESS THAT
STARTED TO SURFACE AND I SAW
JUST YESTERDAY IN THE GLOBE AND
MAIL.
HOW MANY OF YOU SAW THAT
ARTICLE?
IT WAS AN ARTICLE, A FEATURE
ARTICLE ACTUALLY ON THE WHOLE
NOTION OF SPIRITUALITY IN
BUSINESS AS BEING SOMETHING
THAT IS REALLY WHAT THEY CALLED
THE LAST FRONTIER OF WORKPLACE
ENLIGHTENMENT.
SO THAT'S AN INTERESTING SIGN
AGAIN THIS MEGA TREND AROUND
THE SEARCH FOR MEANING IS ALSO
MANIFESTING ITSELF IN THINGS
LIKE VALUES DRIVEN CONSUMERS.
CONSUMERS WANT TO BUY PRODUCTS
AND SERVICES THAT ACTUALLY MEAN
SOMETHING.
MAYBE THEY'RE PROTECTING
HEALTH.
MAYBE THEY'RE PROTECTING THE
ENVIRONMENT.
MAYBE THEY'RE ACTUALLY
CONTRIBUTING TO PEOPLE WHO ARE
LESS ADVANTAGED THAN WE ARE.
AND THAT IS RELATED TO SOCIALLY
RESPONSIBLE INVESTING.
THINK ABOUT THAT.
I MEAN, THE IDEA OF SOCIALLY
RESPONSIBLE INVESTING WOULDN'T
THAT CHANGE CAPITALISM IF ALL
OF A SUDDEN WE'RE NOT JUST
INVESTING JUST FOR THE SAKE OF
GETTING MORE MONEY AS A RETURN
ON INVESTMENT BUT WE CARE ABOUT
THE RETURN ALSO POSITIVELY
AFFECTING THE CLIMATE OR SOCIAL
WELFARE SO THOSE ARE ALL AGAIN
PART OF THOSE MEGA TREND WHERE
MEANING IS STARTING TO BECOME
VERY, VERY APPARENT.
I ALSO CONTEND THAT THE SEARCH
FOR MEANING IS THE--IT
IS WITHOUT THAT IT'S NOT GOING
TO EXIST OF GOOD GOVERNMENT.
IN OTHER WORDS IF WE DON'T HAVE
MEANING IN OUR GOVERNMENTAL
POLICIES AND PROGRAMS, IF WE'RE
JUST PURSUING THINGS FOR THE
SAKE OF PURSUING THEM THAT
WE'RE ALSO MISSING THE MARK AND
SO THE NOTION OF GOOD
GOVERNMENT CAN ONLY HAPPEN IF
THAT MEANINGFUL FOCUS, IF THAT
MEANING COMPASS IS IN FACT
SOMETHING THAT IS IN OUR MIND'S
EYE WE ARE ACTUALLY TARGETING
MEANINGFUL PUBLIC POLICIES.
AND THAT MEANS THAT THAT'S
GOING TO HELP US KEEP THE
PLANET HEALTHY, OUR SOCIETIES
MORE HEALTHY AND OVERALL IT'S
JUST GONNA BE GOOD BUSINESS,
GOOD PUBLIC BUSINESS AS WELL.
SO THE NOTION HERE OF MEANING
WHICH I'M CALLING THE MEANING
DIFFERENCE THIS EVENING IS
REALLY ABOUT REFLECTING
SERIOUSLY ABOUT WHAT REALLY
MATTERS.
WHAT REALLY MATTERS TO US IN
OUR PERSONAL LIVES IN OUR WORK
LIVES AND THIS MEANING
DIFFERENCE IS THAT COMPASS.
IT'S THAT GUIDE THAT'S GOING TO
HELP US AND I'M GOING TO GIVE
YOU SOME PRINCIPLES HERE THAT
HOPEFULLY WILL GUIDE EACH AND
EVERY ONE OF US AS WE MOVE
ALONG OUR LIFE AND OUR WORK
PATH.
SO AS BACKGROUND LET ME JUST
KIND OF SHARE WITH YOU SOME
THINGS THAT ALWAYS INTRIGUED ME
AND THINK ABOUT IT IF THESE
QUESTIONS ACTUALLY MAY HAVE...
HAVE IMPORTANCE IN YOUR LIFE.
EVEN AS A YOUNG CHILD I USED TO
THINK ABOUT THIS AND OF COURSE
THIS DROVE MY PARENTS NUTS.
WHY DO SOME PEOPLE SEEM TO HAVE
AN EASIER TIME DEALING WITH
COMPLEX AND CHALLENGING
SITUATIONS THAN OTHERS?
I ALWAYS WAS INTRIGUED BY THAT
YOU KNOW, SOME PEOPLE, YOU
KNOW, CHANGE.
BOY, THEY CAN JUST DEAL WITH
IT, ROLL WITH THE PUNCHES, MOVE
RIGHT ON, OTHER PEOPLE THE
SLIGHTEST CHANGE AND YOU MIGHT
AS WELL YOU KNOW, PUT A GUN TO
THEIR HEAD.
WHY DO SOME PEOPLE SEEM MORE
CAPABLE OF DEALING WITH CHANGE
THAN OTHERS?
OKAY, NOT JUST THE COMPLEXITY
OF CHANGE BUT JUST OVERALL THE
WHOLE PROCESS.
WHY DO SOME PEOPLE AGAINST ALL
ODDS ARE ABLE TO TRIUMPH WHILE
OTHER PEOPLE USE ADVERSITY AS
AN EXCUSE FOR INACTION?
OKAY, I KNOW THERE'S NOBODY IN
THIS AUDIENCE THAT DOES THAT
BUT I KNOW A LOT OF PEOPLE.
FAMILY MEMBERS, FRIENDS, BOY, I
TELL YOU, IF THERE'S ANYTHING
THAT LOOKS LIKE ADVERSE IT
COULD BE A SMALL THING THEY
MAKE THAT YOU KNOW, A MOUNTAIN
OUT OF A MOLEHILL AND THEY'RE
FROZEN DARE AS I SAY IN THE
TITLE OF A BOOK SYMBOLISING
THIS THEY BECOME PRISONERS OF
THEIR OWN THOUGHTS.

Alex’s book cover appears on screen. The main picture has the silhouettes of two people standing at a bridge.

He continues
WHY DO SOME PEOPLE SEEM TO FIND
JOY AND FULFILMENT IN THEIR
WORKING LIFE WHILE OTHERS SEEM
PRONE TO STAGNATION AND EVEN
DESPAIR?
BUT IT'S THIS KIND OF
EXISTENTIAL QUESTIONING THAT
NATURALLY WOULD BRING US AND
CERTAINLY BROUGHT ME IN CONTACT
WITH THE LIFE
AND WORK OF VIKTOR FRANKL.
VIKTOR FRANKL AS YOU KNOW WAS
NOT ONLY A PHYSICIAN WITH
SPECIALITIES IN NEUROLOGY AND
PSYCHIATRY BUT HE ALSO WAS AN
EXISTENTIAL PHILOSOPHER SO THAT--

A picture of a man in his late fifties appears on screen. He has short grey hair and is clean-shaven. He wears glasses, a dark grey suit and a pale pink shirt. The caption below reads "1905-1997."

Alex continues BECAME A VERY
IMPORTANT DRIVER OKAY, FOR
SOMEBODY LIKE ME BECAUSE I
FIGURE -- I'VE ALWAYS RESONATED
WITH HIS THOUGHTS.
AND MY OWN PERSONAL PATH LED ME
DIRECTLY TO VIKTOR FRANKL AND I
WAS BLESSED, I WAS BLESSED TO
COMMUNICATE WITH HIM FOR MOST
OF A DECADE BY JUST CORRESPOND
BUT ACTUALLY GET TOGETHER IN
HIS HOME IN VIENNA AND IN THE
SUMMER OF 1996 HE URGED ME
PERSONALLY TO WRITE A BOOK THAT
HE WOULD BRING HIS WISDOM AS
FAR AS I'M CONCERNED CLEARLY
HIS WISDOM TO A MAINSTREAM
AUDIENCE.
IT WASN'T AGAIN ABOUT BRINGING
IT TO PSYCHOTHERAPISTS, IT WAS
ABOUT BRINGING TO EVERYDAY
PEOPLE IN ALL WALKS OF LIFE.
VIKTOR FRANKL'S SYSTEM OF LOGO
THERAPY TO ME WAS ALMOST AGAIN
IT WAS A GUIDE BECAUSE THERE
WAS SO MUCH.
I WAS TOUCHED NOT JUST BY
READING MAN'S SEARCH FOR
MEANING
BUT VIKTOR FRANKL WRITTEN 32 BOOKS.
HE'S WRITTEN PROBABLY HUNDREDS
OF ARTICLES.

A picture on screen shows the book cover of "Man’s search for meaning" by Viktor E. Frankl.

Alex continues
THERE HAVE BEEN HUNDREDS OF
THESES AND DISSERTATIONS AND
OTHER RESEARCH AND REFERENCES
AND ALL TYPES OF LITERATURE AND
SO MY GOAL WAS HAVING BEEN
EXPOSED TO THIS FOR SO MANY
YEARS THAT I WANTED TO BRING
THIS AGAIN TO THIS MORE GENERIC
AUDIENCE.
SO I WENT INTO HIS WORK, HIS
BODY OF WORK AND I BASICALLY
LOOKED AT HOW TO DISTIL -- WHAT
ARE THE CORE PRINCIPLES?
WHAT ARE THE THINGS THAT
REALLY, REALLY MATTER WITHIN
LOGOTHERAPY THAT I WOULD LIKE
TO BRING TO MAINSTREAM, GENERIC
AUDIENCES AND THAT'S REALLY
WHAT PRISONERS OF OUR THOUGHTS
IS ALL ABOUT.
ONE OF THE ISSUES THAT I'VE
NOTICED IN POSTMODERN SOCIETY
IS GREED.
AND NOT JUST CORPORATE GREED.
WE'RE NOT JUST TALKING ABOUT
THE ENRON'S AND THE WORLDCOM'S
AND THOSE KINDS OF THINGS, IT'S
NOT JUST BUSINESS, I SEE GREED
IN CHILDREN.
OKAY?
I SEE KIDS THAT HAVE GROWN UP
WITH SO MUCH PARTICULARLY AGAIN
IN THIS DAY AND AGE WITH SO
MUCH CHOICE THAT IT'S ALMOST
LIKE WHATEVER THEY GET IT'S
NEVER ENOUGH AND THEY EXPECT TO
HAVE MORE CHOICE AND THE
EXPECTATIONS ARE RAISED AND
RAISED HIGHER AND HIGHER AND
HIGHER AND EVEN LITTLE TEENY
TODDLERS HAVE OPPORTUNITIES
THAT WHEN I WAS GROWING UP I
WAS SO GRATEFUL TO GET ONE
LITTLE THING AS A GIFT OR
WHATEVER AND NOWADAYS IT'S
NEVER ENOUGH.
AND SO THAT NOTION OF GREED IN
MY WORLD WHICH ACTUALLY IT'S
BEEN WRITTEN UP AND IT HAS BEEN
PORTRAYED IN COMMERCIALISM AS
AFFLUENZA, THAT'S A NEW WORD,
AFFLUENZA, THINK ABOUT THAT,
WE'RE SO AFFLUENT THAT IT'S
BECOME ALMOST A DISEASE.
YOU KNOW, YOU CAN'T SHOP UNTIL
YOU DROP ANYMORE.
I MEAN, IT'S LIKE IT'S ENDLESS.
IT'S ALMOST LIKE AN ADDICTION
BUT THE IDEA BEHIND THIS GREED,
BUSINESS, CORPORATE GREED, THIS
PERSONAL KIND OF GREED STARTING
WITH CHILDHOOD ON UP REALLY
AGAIN REFLECTS IN MANY WAYS A
LACK OF FULFILMENT, OKAY?
SO IN SPITE OF MATERIAL WEALTH
WE SEE THIS.
AND WE SEE THIS IN TERMS OF
THINK ABOUT PROFESSIONAL
ATHLETES AND CELEBRITIES.
HOW MANY OF THEM DO YOU KIND OF
LOOK AT THEM AND GO THEY SEEM
TO HAVE EVERYTHING, FINANCIAL,
MATERIAL SUCCESS AND YET THEY
STILL SEEM TO BE UNFULFILLED
AND YOU START TO SEE IT
MANIFEST ITSELF IN WAYS THAT
ARE BIZARRE.
AN EXAMPLE WAS JUST WRITTEN UP
AGAIN IN THE
GLOBE AND MAIL JUST UH, I THINK
IT WAS MAY 1st ISSUE SO IT'S
NOT THAT LONG AGO, A FEW WEEKS
AGO, IT WAS TALKING ABOUT
UNIVERSITY GRADES.
SO HERE WE
ARE AT A CAMPUS AND THE NOTION
HERE IS QUOTE "AT A UNIVERSITY
MORE AND MORE STUDENTS DEMAND
TOP GRADES."
IN OTHER WORDS I'M PAYING
TUITION, I DESERVE AN A.
OKAY, THINK ABOUT THAT FOR A
SECOND.
I MEAN, OUR WHOLE SENSE OF
VALUES IS KIND OF WARPED A
LITTLE BIT, ISN'T IT?
OKAY, ANOTHER CHARACTERISTIC IN
POST-MODERN SOCIETY MAYBE YOU
CAN RELATE TO THIS FOR SURE I
KNOW I CAN COMING IN FROM THE
U.S. IS FEAR.
I MEAN, WE HEAR IT ALL THE
TIME.
WE GOT BASICALLY A POLITICAL
ADMINISTRATION IN SOME RESPECTS
THAT RUNS THE COUNTRY BASED ON
FEAR.
DOOMSDAY PROPHECIES.
TERRORISM.
ENVIRONMENTAL DECAY.
ECONOMIC UNCERTAINTY.
HEALTH CRISIS.
JOB LOSS.
IMMIGRATION.
I MEAN, EVERYTHING THAT WE'RE
HEARING THESE DAYS SEEMS TO
HAVE SOME SORT OF FEAR BASIS,
DOESN'T IT?
AND THAT DRIVES BEHAVIOURS IN
VERY STRANGE WAYS BUT THE MORE

- I'M GOING TO SHARE WITH YOU
AND READ SOME PASSAGES FROM MY
BOOK, FEAR IS BASICALLY A
MANIFESTATION OF SOMETHING
MISSING FOR THE MOST PART,
OKAY?
AND WHAT I'M GONNA KIND OF
PROPOSE TO YOU IS THAT THE MORE
THAT WE CAN FILL THAT MISSING
PIECE, THAT EMPTY TANK WITH
MEANING THE LESS LIKELY FEAR
DRIVES OUR BEHAVIOUR.
OKAY, ANOTHER MAJOR ISSUE IN
THIS POST-MODERN SOCIETY THAT
I'M SEEING IS RETIREMENT.
RETIREMENT IS CHANGING.
IT'S UPSIDE DOWN IN A LOT OF
WAYS.
OKAY?
PEOPLE NOT ONLY ASK YOU WHEN
THEY RETIRE IS THAT ALL THERE
IS?
WHAT DO I DO NEXT?
BUT WE HAVE PEOPLE LIKE MYSELF
I HAPPEN TO BE A MEMBER OF THE
BABY BOOMER GENERATION, RIGHT?
WE ALL KNOW WHAT BABY BOOMERS
ARE.
WE'RE HEARING ABOUT THEM
RETIRING ALL THE TIME.
I THINK THERE'S A FEW OF YOU
OUT HERE THAT ARE BABY BOOMERS
BUT WE ACTUALLY HAVE A NEW TERM
REFERRING TO THE BABY BOOMERS
WHO DON'T WANT TO GIVE UP WE'RE
CALLED BABY BOOMERANG
GENERATION.
WE'RE COMING BACK, RIGHT?
THE BABY BOOMERANG?
THERE WAS SUPPOSED TO BE A
LITTLE HUMOUR THERE.
BUT ON THAT
SIDE OF THE AGE, THE BABY
BOOMERS WE HAVE THE YOUNGER
GENERATION REFERRED TO AS THE
SLACKER GENERATION IN OTHER
WORDS THE YOUNGER GENERATION
DOESN'T QUITE HAVE THE WORK
ETHIC AS THE OLDER GENERATIONS
DO SO THERE'S A CONCERN AND WHY
IS THAT?
WHY ARE THERE SLACKERS?
WHY ARE THEY ALSO ASKING IS
THAT ALL THERE IS?
WHAT IS MY FUTURE GOING TO BE
LIKE?
WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN TO ME
WHEN I AM OF A CERTAIN AGE?
IS THERE GOING TO BE RETIREMENT
FOR ME?
IS THERE GOING TO BE GOOD
QUALITY OF LIFE?
SO THERE'S A LOT OF QUESTIONS
ABOUT THE VALUES ABOUT THE
YOUNGER GENERATIONS SO THEY'RE
CAREER FUTURE IS AT STAKE.
THERE'S ALSO THE WHOLE QUESTION
OF THIS MODERN AGE, THIS POST-
MODERN AGE OF HAPPINESS.
IT WAS ACTUALLY A COVER STORY
IN TIME MAGAZINE IN JANUARY OF
LAST YEAR IT WAS ENTIRELY
DEVOTED TO THE PURSUIT OF
HAPPINESS AND HOW CAN YOU FIND
HAPPINESS?
AND WHAT I'M GOING TO SHARE
WITH YOU IN TERMS OF VIKTOR
FRANKL'S PHILOSOPHY IS YOU
DON'T SHOOT FOR HAPPINESS,
OKAY?
YOU SHOOT FOR OTHER THINGS THAT
ARE MEANINGFUL AND HAPPINESS
OCCURS JUST LIKE SUCCESS AS A
BY-PRODUCT SO HAPPINESS IS
ANOTHER MANIFESTATION OF THIS
IDEA THAT MAYBE THERE IS A
PRIOR OR CRISIS OF MEANING THAT
WE HAVE TO CONTEND WITH.
LOW SELF-ESTEEM.
I JUST WAS TALKING TO SOMEBODY
PRIOR TO THE LECTURE BEGINNING
ABOUT KIDS IN HIGH SCHOOL AND
THE WHOLE NOTION ABOUT THEIR
VALUES PART OF THEIR VALUE
CHALLENGE OF YOUNG PEOPLE IS
ALSO RELATED TO SELF-WORTH,
SELF-ESTEEM AND SO FORTH AND IN
THE WORKPLACE IT'S MANIFESTED
ITSELF INTO WORKER APATHY,
FRUSTRATION, LOW MORALE, LACK
OF TRUST, I'M SURE ALL OF YOU
WHATEVER KIND OF BACKGROUND YOU
HAVE YOU CAN RELATE TO THESE
THINGS.
THESE ARE ALL SYMPTOMS OF A
MEANINGFUL EXISTENTIAL CRISIS
THAT I WOULD LIKE TO SAY WE CAN
ACTUALLY WORK ON AND HOPEFULLY
RESOLVE TOGETHER AND THE LAST
TREND OR MINI TREND MAYBE NOT
MEGA TRENDS IS THE WHOLE NOTION
OF HEALTH AND WELLNESS.
AND I THINK THAT IT'S NOT JUST
SOME OF THE QUESTIONS THAT YOU
HEAR ABOUT PHYSICAL ILLNESS
THAT YOU SEE PEOPLE WHO AREN'T
EXERCISING, CHALLENGES WITH
OBESITY, THERE ARE ALL KINDS OF
THINGS THAT ARE HAPPENING NOT
JUST IN THE PHYSICAL REALM, THE
EMOTIONAL REALM AND THE
SPIRITUAL REALM THAT REALLY ARE
WHAT VIKTOR FRANKL REFERRED TO
AS MANIFESTATIONS OF AN
EXISTENTIAL VACUUM.
NOW MANY, MANY, MANY YEARS AGO
FRANKL HAD REFERRED TO THREE
SOCIETAL SYMPTOMS KIND OF
COLLAPSED A LOT OF THE THINGS I
JUST DESCRIBED INTO THREE AREAS
THAT HE REFERRED TO THE MASS
NEUROTIC TRIAD.
NOW THINK ABOUT THIS.
THE MASS NEUROTIC TRIAD IS
SOMETHING THAT WAS INTRODUCED
BACK AROUND WORLD WAR II.
YOU TELL ME IF THESE
CONDITIONS, THESE THREE
CONDITIONS HAVE GONE AWAY.
FIRST ONE IS AGGRESSION, OKAY,
AGGRESSION.
NOT JUST GOING POSTAL, NOT JUST
ROAD RAGE, PARKING LOT RAGE,
AIRPLANE RAGE, NOT JUST THINGS
LIKE COLUMBINE, DOMESTIC
VIOLENCE, CAUSTIC HUMOUR AT
WORK.
WE EVEN HAVE NEW WORDS IN OUR
VOCABULARY LIKE SHOCK AND AWE
SOME AGGRESSION OBVIOUSLY
HASN'T GONE AWAY, HAS IT?
ALL THE THINGS I JUST DESCRIBED
TO YOU EXIST TODAY SO
AGGRESSIVE BEHAVIOUR IS
SOMETHING WE STILL NEED TO
CONTEND WITH.
THE SECOND PIECE OF THIS MASS
NEUROTIC TRIAD WHICH BY THE WAY
TODAY IT'S KIND OF USED MODERN
DAY NOMENCLATURE I REFER TO IT
AS AXIS OF EVIL IS ADDICTION.
IS ADDICTION, HAS IT GONE AWAY?
HAS IT?
WE HAVE MORE TYPES OF ADDICTION
NOW THAN WHEN VIKTOR FRANKL
FIRST IDENTIFIED THIS.
WE'RE NOT JUST TALKING ABOUT
DRUGS AND ALCOHOL.
AGAIN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT
SHOPPING THE AFFLUENZA TYPE OF
ADDICTIONS, SEXUAL ADDICTIONS,
WE HAVE INTERNET ADDICTIONS, WE
HAVE EVEN SELF-HELP ADDICTIONS
WHERE PEOPLE GO FROM WORKSHOP
AFTER WORKSHOP TO WORKSHOP AND
THEY'RE ADDICTED TO THIS WHOLE
NOTION ALRIGHT, SO ADDICTED
BEHAVIOURS IS ANOTHER SOCIAL
SOCIETAL MANIFESTATION THAT HAS
NOT GONE AWAY, IF ANYTHING IT
HAS BEEN EXACERBATED IN THIS...
IN THIS TIME AND AGE AND THE
THIRD PIECE OF THIS MASS
NEUROTIC TRIAD IS DEPRESSION.
HAS DEPRESSION GONE AWAY?
NO.
WE HAVE DEPRESSION.
WE HEAR ABOUT DEPRESSION NOT
ONLY RELATED TO CLINICAL
DEPRESSION, YOUNG KIDS,
TEENAGERS, THINGS RELATED TO
PHARMACEUTICAL DRUGS BUT WE
HAVE NEW TYPES OF DEPRESSION AT
WORK.
WE HAVE NEW TYPES OF DEPRESSION

- IN FACT, WE HAVE NEW TYPES
OF DISEASES AND DIAGNOSTIC
CATEGORIES THAT WE DIDN'T HAVE
SO THE IDEA HERE IS THAT ALL OF
THESE FORCES OKAY, I MEAN,
OBVIOUSLY THERE'S SOME
PHYSIOLOGICAL REASONS BEHIND
ALL OF THIS, RIGHT?
AND OBVIOUSLY THERE'S SOME
THINGS WE CAN GO INTO
REGRESSIVE TYPES OF THERAPIES
AND SO FORTH BUT WHAT I'M GOING
TO SUGGEST IS THAT THE FARTHER
WE MOVE AWAY FROM MEANING THE
MORE LIKELY THESE SYMPTOMS ARE
GOING TO BECOME EXACERBATED AND
THAT'S WHAT I'M TRYING TO DO
BUT FRANKL'S NOTION OF MEANING
OBVIOUSLY CAME FROM TWO OF HIS
MENTORS.
ONE OF HIS MENTORS OF COURSE
THE FIRST ONE WAS SIGMUND FREUD
AND SIGMUND FREUD FIGURED WELL,
THE INTRINSIC MOTIVATION OF
PEOPLE REALLY COMES FROM THE
WILL TO PLEASURE TO USE
FRANKL'S WORDS.
THE NOTION IS THAT WE'RE DRIVEN
BY PLEASURE SO WE SEE HOW THAT
MANIFESTS ITSELF IN THE
BUSINESS WORLD.
UH, YOU KNOW, WE HAD THE TYCO
INTERNATIONAL CASE WHERE IT WAS
UH, NOT TOO MANY YEARS AGO IN
UH, SUMMER OF 2000 I BELIEVE
WHERE THE TYCO CEO UH, TOOK
COMPANY MONEY SPENT 2 MILLION
DOLLARS TO GIVE HIS WIFE A BIRTHDAY
PARTY ON COMPANY -- USING
COMPANY MONEY AND HAD A GREAT
BASH AND I HAVE HIM QUOTED IN
MY BOOK AS SAYING YOU KNOW, WE
DRINK, WE PARTY, WE ROCK ON,
THIS IS WHAT OUR COMPANY IS
KNOWN FOR WELL, THAT'S A WILL
TO PLEASURE MANIFESTATION,
ISN'T IT?
IN THE CORPORATE SECTOR IF
ANYTHING, ALL RIGHT.
I MEAN, THAT'S NOT LOOKING AT
SHAREHOLDER VALUE. THAT'S NOT
LOOKING AT CORPORATE SOCIAL
RESPONSIBILITY THAT'S LOOKING
AT HOW CAN WE HAVE FUN?
PETE ROSE, INTERESTINGLY
ENOUGH, THE ATHLETE, THE
BASEBALL PLAYER WAS ADDICTED TO
WHAT?
GAMBLING, THAT'S ANOTHER ONE.
GAMBLING IS AN ADDICTION.
AND HE WROTE A BOOK CALLED
MY PRISON WITHOUT BARS.
THINK ABOUT THAT, HOW THAT
RELATES TO
PRISONER OF
OUR THOUGHTS.
PRISONER OF OUR
THOUGHTS.
BUT HE SAID RIGHT IN THERE WHY
DID I GET INVOLVED IN GAMBLING?
AND HE SAID FOR THE PLEASURE.
ALL RIGHT, HE REALLY NEEDED
THAT.
HE WAS ADDICTED TO IT BECAUSE
OF THAT PLEASURE THAT HE GOT
FROM GAMBLING.
IF THEY'RE FOCUSSED ON PLEASURE
THAT BECOMES THEIR PRIMARY
MOTIVATOR AND VIKTOR FRANKL
WOULD SAY THERE MUST BE
SOMETHING MISSING, OKAY?
SO HE LEFT THE FREUDIAN CAMP.
HE ACTUALLY WAS EXPELLED BY THE
FREUDIANS.
BUT HE FOUND ANOTHER MENTOR.
HIS OTHER MENTOR WAS ALFRED
ALDER, ANOTHER VIENNESE AND
ALFRED ADLER HAD A DIFFERENT
TAKE ON HUMAN INTRINSIC
MOTIVATIONS.
HE SAID WAIT A MINUTE, IT'S NOT
PLEASURE.
PEOPLE ARE BORN WITH FEELINGS
OF INFERIORITY SO IT'S OBVIOUS
THAT YOU SPEND YOUR ENTIRE
LIVES STRIVING FOR SUPERIORITY
OVER OTHERS.
THAT MUST BE WHICH FRANKL WOULD
REFER TO AND IT'S IN
PRISONERS OF OUR
THOUGHTS THE WILL TO POWER.
THAT WE NEED TO HAVE POWER OVER
OTHERS.
AND THAT BECAME HIS FORCE.
WELL, FRANKL FOR A WHILE WAS
PART OF THAT CAMP AS WELL.
BUT THINK ABOUT SOME OF THE
PEOPLE I MEAN, OBVIOUSLY THE
ENRONS OF THE WORLD, THE
CORPORATE SECTOR ARE CERTAINLY
AN EXAMPLE OF THE WILL TO
POWER.
WE SEE POWER GOING ON RIGHT NOW
IN THE POLITICAL ARENAS, DON'T
WE?
WE SEE POWER IN PEOPLE LIKE
MARTHA STEWART WHO IS CERTAINLY
KNOWN AS SOMEBODY WHO REALLY
WANTS TO BE IN CONTROL.
DO YOU KNOW PEOPLE WHO SEEM TO
BE OBSESSED WITH OR DRIVEN BY
THE WILL TO POWER?
THINK ABOUT IT.
IT COULD BE MICROMANAGING
PEOPLE.
AND I'M GOING TO SHARE WITH YOU
THESE PRINCIPLES WITH SOME MORE
DETAIL SO HOPEFULLY THIS WILL
FLUSH OUT BUT FRANKL LOOKED AT
THE WILL TO POWER AND OF COURSE
HE WAS EVENTUALLY EXPELLED FROM
ADLER'S CAMP BECAUSE HE DIDN'T
THINK THAT WELL, IF YOU'RE
REALLY FIXATED ON POWER WHICH
INCLUDES MONEY, STRIVING, THAT
WILL TO MONEY IS A PRIMITIVE
FORUM OF THE WILL TO POWER THEN
YOU MUST BE FEELING THAT
THERE'S A MISSING PIECE
SOMEWHERE.
SOMETHING ISN'T ALL THERE.
AND WHAT WASN'T THERE WAS
MEANING.
AND IT WAS FROM THAT WILL TO
MEANING THAT HE HAD DEVELOPED
THAT LOGOTHERAPY AS A SYSTEM
OF PSYCHOTHERAPY EMERGED AND
SO WHAT I DID I WENT THROUGH
WHICH IS REALLY THE APPLICATION
PART OF PRISONERS OF OUR
THOUGHTS AND I TRIED TO
FIGURE OUT OKAY, WHAT ARE THE
CORE PRINCIPLES FROM THAT
SYSTEM OF THERAPEUTIC
INTERVENTION THAT MEANING
CENTRED PSYCHOTHERAPY.
WHAT ARE THE PRINCIPLES THAT I
COULD TAKE TO EVERYDAY LIFE?
TO THE WORKPLACE.
TO POLITICS.
TO PARENTING,
TO OTHER COUNTRIES, ALL RIGHT,
AND SPREAD THE WORD.
AND THIS HAS BECOME FOR ME
SINCE THE BOOK CAME OUT IN THE
FALL OF 2004 HAS BECOME A
MEANING MINISTRY IN A VERY
SPIRITUAL SENSE, NOT A
RELIGIOUS SENSE BUT A SPIRITUAL
SENSE.
SO WHAT ARE THESE PRINCIPLES?
THERE ARE ACTUALLY SEVEN OF
THEM THAT ARE IN THE BOOK.
OKAY, WHAT'S THE FIRST ONE?
THE FIRST PRINCIPLE IS THE
PRINCIPLE THAT VIKTOR FRANKL IS
MOST KNOWN FOR.
IT'S THE WHOLE NOTION OF
FREEDOM OF WILL.
IT'S THE ABILITY THAT WE ALL
HAVE NO MATTER WHAT OUR
CIRCUMSTANCES THE FREEDOM TO
CHOOSE OUR ATTITUDE.
THERE'S A SPACE -- THERE'S A
SPACE BETWEEN THE STIMULUS AND
THE RESPONSE WHATEVER IT MAY
BE, WHATEVER THE SITUATION
CONFRONTING US IS AND IT'S
WITHIN THAT SPACE THAT WE HAVE
THAT FREEDOM TO CHOOSE OUR
ATTITUDE HOW WE'RE GOING TO
RESPOND.
WE MAY NOT HAVE CONTROL OVER
THE SITUATION BUT WE HAVE
CONTROL OVER HOW ULTIMATELY WE
WANT TO PERCEIVE THE SITUATION.
NOW I REMEMBER ONE OF THE
FIRST, THE FIRST TIMES THAT I
HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO RESPOND
TO ONE OF THE PEOPLE I WAS
TALKING TO ABOUT THE PRINCIPLES
IN THE BOOK AND IT HAPPENED TO
BE A PHYSICIAN AND I SAID WELL,
WHAT DID YOU THINK OF THE BOOK?
RIGHT?
AND HE GOES WELL, YOU KNOW, I
REALLY LIKE THESE PRINCIPLES
BUT ALEX, I JUST GOTTA TELL YOU
SOMETHING I REALLY DON'T
UNDERSTAND THE FIRST PRINCIPLE.
THE FREEDOM TO CHOOSE YOUR
ATTITUDE.
WHY DO I NEED THE FREEDOM TO
CHOOSE MY ATTITUDE WHEN I
ALREADY HAVE AN ATTITUDE?
WITH THIS IDEA THE FREEDOM TO
CHOOSE YOUR ATTITUDE GOES...
GOES BACK A LONG, LONG WAY AND
ONE OF THE -- ONE OF THE PEOPLE
THAT'S PROFILED IN PRISONER OF OUR
THOUGHTS IS AN ACTOR
THAT I'M SURE YOU ALL KNOW
CHRISTOPHER REEVE, CHRISTOPHER
REEVE WHO PLAYED SUPERMAN OF
ALL THINGS WHO PASSED AWAY IN
2004 AND HE WAS OBVIOUSLY
SOMEBODY WHO BECAME A REAL
SUPERMAN AFTER, ALL RIGHT,
AFTER HIS ACCIDENT.
LET ME KIND OF GIVE SOMETHING

- ANOTHER STORY, IT'S A LITTLE
MORE LIGHTER WHEN I WAS IN
VANCOUVER B.C. IT WAS PROBABLY
ABOUT UH, TWO YEARS AGO I
HAPPEN TO SEE -- TO COME ACROSS
A MOVIE, A DOCUMENTARY,
ACTUALLY, IT'S CALLED A
MOCKUMENTARY AND I HIGHLY
RECOMMEND IT.
IT'S CALLED THE DELICATE ART OF
PARKING.
THE DELICATE ART OF PARKING.
AND IT'S A DOCUMENTARY FILMED
IN VANCOUVER ABOUT PARKING
ENFORCEMENT AS A CAREER.
ALRIGHT?
AND IT IS HILARIOUS AND THE
STAR IS GRANT PARKER, HE'S ONE
OF THE PARKING ENFORCERS WHO
GETS BEAT UP BY PEOPLE, YOU
KNOW, HE'S PUTTING A TICKET ON
THE CAR AND HOW DARE YOU TICKET
MY CAR.
I WAS ONLY THERE FOR TWO
MINUTES KIND OF THING.
UH, YOU KNOW, IT'S JUST
HILARIOUS BUT I HAVE THIS QUOTE
HERE SAYING "PARKING
ENFORCEMENT IS SOMETHING I CAN
BELIEVE IN."
BECAUSE HE SAW HIS JOB AS A
PARKING ENFORCEMENT OFFICIAL IN
VANCOUVER AS HELPING TRAFFIC
FLOW, YOU KNOW, TAX REVENUE, I
MEAN, HE WAS ABLE TO TAKE
SOMETHING THAT WAS POTENTIALLY
A MUNDANE JOB AND TURN IT INTO
A MEANINGFUL JOB AND THAT KIND
OF ATTITUDE SHIFT I MEAN, THINK
ABOUT IT HOW MANY OF US HAVE
BORING JOBS?
HAVE YOU EVER HAVE A BORING
JOB?
YOU KIND OF WONDER -- YOUR
FIRST THOUGHT IS HOW CAN I GET
OUT OF THIS JOB?
RIGHT?
YOU DON'T THINK ABOUT WHAT ARE
THE POSITIVE THINGS ABOUT THIS
JOB?
YOU KNOW, MAYBE I LIKE THE
PEOPLE I WORK WITH.
I GET TIME OFF.
I CAN BE CREATIVE AND SO FORTH
SO THE NOTION HERE OF HOW WE
CHOOSE OUR ATTITUDE BECOMES
VERY IMPORTANT.
AND I REMEMBER THERE'S A STORY
IN MY BOOK ABOUT A UH, A POSTAL
CARRIER WHO, WHEN I USED TO
LIVE ELAINE AND I USED TO LIVE
JUST OVER BY UPPER CANADA
COLLEGE AND I'LL NEVER FORGET
THE STORY BECAUSE I REMEMBER
HAVING THIS POSTAL CARRIER WHO
EVERYDAY BROUGHT THE MAIL AND I
KNOW YOU ALL LOVE CANADA POST
AND HOW WELL THEY WORK BUT UM,
BUT THIS POSTAL CARRIER WAS
INCREDIBLE.
I MEAN, SHE WAS ALWAYS
POSITIVE.
NO MATTER WHAT SHE'D TALK TO
YOU.
SHE'D TRY TO FIND OUT WITH YOU
SHE KNEW WHEN YOU'D BE ON
VACATION OR WHATEVER WAS GOING
ON.
AND I WAS ALWAYS INTRIGUED
ABOUT HOW SHE WAS YOU KNOW,
THERE'S A SONG OUT THERE WITH
AMERICAN IDOL CALLED BAD DAY,
HAD A BAD DAY, WHATEVER YOU
KNOW, SHE JUST NEVER SEEMED TO
HAVE A BAD DAY.
SO I REMEMBER TALKING TO HER
ONE DAY ABOUT WHAT IT IS ABOUT
WHAT GETS HER ALL JACKED UP AND
EXCITED ABOUT HER JOB.
AND SHE DIDN'T SEE HERSELF AS A
POSTAL CARRIER. SHE SAW
HERSELF AS A CONNECTOR IN HER
COMMUNITY.
SHE KNEW THAT PEOPLE DEPENDED
ON HER FOR CHEQUES, FOR MAIL
FROM LOVED ONES.
HER IDEA OF HER JOB -- WHERE
SOMEBODY ELSE
COULD'VE JUST -- YOU KNOW
PEOPLE LIKE THAT WHO THEIR JOB
I DON'T CARE HOW EXCITING IT
WOULD BE IT'S BORING.
THEY CAN'T SEE ANYTHING
POSITIVE ABOUT IT.
YOU KNOW, BUT ON THE OTHER HAND
THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO ARE
INSPIRATIONAL.
YOU KNOW, I KNOW SO MANY
PARENTS SOME PEOPLE I'VE
WRITTEN ABOUT.
SOME PEOPLE I KNOW AS CLIENTS,
SOME AS FRIENDS WHO'VE HAD
SEVERELY DISABLED CHILDREN BUT
IT TURNED THEIR PERSONAL
CIRCUMSTANCES INTO MOMENTS OF
HUMAN TRIUMPH JUST LIKE I'VE
SEEN AND JUST LIKE VIKTOR
FRANKL HAS SEEN, JUST LIKE
YOU'VE SEEN.
YOU KNOW, WHAT IS IT THAT MAKES
THEM TICK?
HOW CAN THEY DO THAT?
YOU LOOK AT THEM AND SAY I
DON'T KNOW IF I COULD EVER DO
THAT.
COULD I BE A CHRISTOPHER REEVE?
COULD I BE A PARENT WITH A
SEVERELY DISABLED CHILD AND
SPEND 20 SOMETHING YEARS AND
HOPING AND YET THERE ARE
STORIES AND THERE ARE REAL
STORIES THAT TOUCH THE HEART
AND SOUL OF ALL OF US AND WHY
AREN'T WE SPENDING MORE TIME
DOING THAT?
NOW VERY RECENTLY THERE WAS
EVEN SOME RESEARCH EVIDENCE
THAT CAME OUT THAT OPTIMISM AND
A POSITIVE ATTITUDE WILL HELP
IN YOUR AGING, ALL OF OUR
AGING, WE'RE ALL AGING BY THE
WAY.
I'M GONNA READ A QUOTE HERE
FROM A STUDY, THIS WAS DONE THE
ANNUAL MEETING IN HAWAII OF THE
AMERICAN COLLEGE OF NEUROPSYCHO
PHARMACOLOGY AND I QUOTE
"PEOPLE WHO THINK THEY'RE AGING
WELL ARE NOT NECESSARILY THE
MOST HEALTHY INDIVIDUALS.
IN FACT, OPTIMISM AND EFFECTIVE
COPING STYLES WERE FOUND TO BE
MORE IMPORTANT TO AGING
SUCCESSFULLY THAN TRADITIONAL
MEASURES OF HEALTH AND
WELLNESS.
THESE FINDINGS SUGGEST THAT
PHYSICAL HEALTH IS NOT THE BEST
INDICATOR OF SUCCESSFUL AGING
ATTITUDE IS."
RECENT STUDY RESULTS.
ALL RIGHT, SO THERE ARE PEOPLE
WHO HAVE ACHES WITH A POSITIVE
ATTITUDE THAT LIVE SELF-
SUFFICIENTLY.
THEY DON'T LIVE IN ASSISTED
LIVING IN SOME CASES.
THEY'RE ABLE TO LIVE WITH THEIR
FAMILIES.
THEY'RE ABLE TO DO THINGS AND
BE AN ONGOING, CONTRIBUTING
MEMBER OF SOCIETY.
EVEN THOUGH PHYSICALLY THEY'RE
NOT MAYBE TOTALLY UP TO SNUFF.
PEOPLE WHO ARE PHYSICALLY ABLE
WHO ARE AGING WHO HAVE A POOR
ATTITUDE ARE MORE LIKELY TO END
UP GOING INTO ASSISTED LIVING,
NURSING HOMES, END UP DYING
SOONER.
INTERESTING.
RECENT STUDY.
SO PART OF WHAT I TRIED TO
BRING IN THIS WHOLE NOTION OF
THE EXERCISE -- THE ABILITY TO
EXERCISE THEIR FREEDOM TO
CHOOSE THEIR ATTITUDE IS
EXERCISES TO ALLOW YOU TO DO
THAT.
AND ONE OF THE EXERCISES THAT I
HAVE IN THE BOOK IS CALLED THE
10 POSITIVE THINGS EXERCISE.
AND WE'RE NOT GOING TO DO THAT
HERE THIS EVENING BUT WHAT IT
MEANS IS WHEN YOU HAVE A
NEGATIVE SITUATION, WHATEVER IT
MAY BE.
THINK ABOUT, WRITE DOWN 10
POSITIVE THINGS.
10 POSITIVE THINGS.
THIS COULD BE FOR ANYTHING.
I MEAN, IT COULD BE YOU KNOW,
YOUR CAR BROKE DOWN.
MY BOSS JUST YELLED AT ME.
I HAD A SPAT WITH MY SPOUSE OR
MY PARTNER WHATEVER IT MAY BE.
YOU KNOW, OUR BUDGET GOT CUT,
YOU NAME IT.
WRITE DOWN THE POSITIVE THINGS.
IF YOU CAN'T WRITE DOWN 10
POSITIVE THINGS THEN HAVE YOUR
FAMILY MEMBERS, YOUR PARTNERS,
YOUR CO-WORKERS HELP YOU.
LET'S LIST 10 POSITIVE THINGS.
SO LET ME GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE.
IN THE BOOK THE WORST
CATASTROPHIC THING IS OUR
DEATH, THINK ABOUT THAT.
ONE OF THE EXERCISES WOULD BE
LIST 10 POSITIVE THINGS IF YOU
DIED TODAY.
NOW THAT SHOCKS A LOT OF
PEOPLE.
YOU GO WELL, I CAN'T EVEN THINK
ABOUT MY DEATH.
BUT IF YOU TAKE SOMETHING AS
CATASTROPHIC AS EXTREME AS YOUR
DEATH AND FIND SOMETHING
POSITIVE ABOUT IT THEN WE
SHOULD BE ABLE TO FIND
SOMETHING POSITIVE ABOUT OTHER
THINGS ALONG THE CONTINUE OF
LIFE, CORRECT?
SO JUST SHOUT OUT, WHAT WOULD
BE ONE POSITIVE THING IF YOU
DIED TODAY?
ANYBODY?
WOULDN'T HAVE TO PAY TAXES.
OKAY.
WHAT'S THAT?
YOU DON'T HAVE TO FIX YOUR CAR.
YOU KNOW YOU'RE GOING TO BE
FERTILISER FOR THE PLANET.
OKAY?
THEY'LL BE ONE LESS PERSON
USING RESOURCES OF THE PLANET.
I REMEMBER ONCE GIVING THIS
SPEECH IN A VERY LARGE
AUDITORIUM AND RIGHT AFTER
DOING THIS THERE WAS SILENCE
FOR A SECOND AND THIS ONE WOMAN
STOOD UP AND SHE YELLED OUT MY
HUSBAND COULD FINALLY MARRY THE
WOMAN HE WANTED TO MARRY.
OKAY, OKAY,
OKAY.
SEE, WE LAUGHED, DIDN'T WE?
BUT THE IDEA HERE IS WE TOOK
SOMETHING AS CATASTROPHIC AS
DYING AND WE SAW THE SILVER
LINING IN IT.
SO YOU COULD DO THAT WITH ANY
SITUATION.
I REMEMBER BEING A UNIVERSITY
PROFESSOR FOR A LONG TIME, I'M
ACTUALLY A RECOVERING ACADEMIC.
AND I REMEMBER DRIVING TO CLASS EARLY
ONE MORNING AND I REMEMBER AS I
WAS DRIVING DOWN THIS TREE
LINED STREET THERE WAS A SCHOOL
BUS VAN COMING UP THE OTHER
SIDE OF THE STREET AND FOR NO
REASON, NO APPARENT REASON AT
ALL THE SCHOOL BUS VAN CRASHES
INTO A PARKED CAR.
SO I STOP MY CAR AND I RUN UP
TO SEE IF I COULD HELP.
I WAS HOPING THAT SOMEBODY HAD
HEARD THE ACCIDENT AND CALLED
AN AMBULANCE AND I ENDED UP
PULLING A YOUNG LADY WHO WAS
THE SCHOOL VAN DRIVER OUT OF
THE BACK OF THE VAN AND SHE WAS
INJURED AND I KIND OF DRAGGED
HER, CARRIED HER TO THE NEXT
YOU KNOW, YARD NEXT DOOR AND I
REMEMBER AS SHE WAS LYING THERE
WITH ME I WAS HOPING, PLEASE,
SOMEBODY GET AN AMBULANCE AND I
REMEMBER SHE STARTED CRYING AND
YELLING AND SHE SAID OH, MY
GOSH, MY PARENTS ARE GOING TO
KILL ME.
I JUST GOT THIS JOB.
WHAT AM I GONNA DO?
AND I REMEMBER STARING HER IN
THE FACE AND I SAID LET'S LIST
10 POSITIVE THINGS FROM THIS
ACCIDENT. ALL RIGHT?
AND WE SAID SHE WAS ALIVE.
SOMEBODY HAD STOPPED TO PICK
HER UP.
THERE WAS NOBODY IN THE VAN, NO
KIDS.
THERE WAS NOBODY IN THE PARKED
CAR THAT SHE CRASHED INTO.
SHE STARTED TO SMILE SO WHEN
THE AMBULANCE FINALLY ARRIVED,
THE UH, EMERGENCY MEDICAL
TECHNICIAN SAID THAT THAT'S
WHAT STOPPED HER FROM GOING
INTO SHOCK.
SO IF FOR NO OTHER REASON YOU
WANNA HAVE A POSITIVE ATTITUDE
FOR YOUR PHYSICAL HEALTH SO
EVEN IF YOU WANT TO HAVE A BAD
ATTITUDE AND YOU WANNA SAY THE
SKY IS FALLING AND YOU KNOW,
LIFE IS TERRIBLE AND YOU KNOW,
BLAH, BLAH, BLAH, BLAH, BLAH.
THE POINT IS FOR YOUR OWN
PHYSICAL HEALTH I SUGGEST YOU
USE THAT EXERCISE. OKAY?
SO THAT'S THE FIRST PRINCIPLE.
WHAT'S THE NEXT PRINCIPLE?
WELL, FRANKL SAID WELL, IT'S
NOT ENOUGH TO HAVE THE FREEDOM
TO CHOOSE YOUR ATTITUDE YOU'VE
GOT TO ALSO THINK ABOUT WHAT
REALLY MATTERS TO YOU AND WE
REFER TO THIS AS YOUR WILL TO
MEANING AS I SAID, THIS WAS HIS
IDEA RATHER THAN THE WILL TO
POWER, THE WILL TO PLEASURE,
THE WILL TO MEANING.
AND WHAT IS THE WILL TO
MEANING?
THE WILL TO MEANING TO VIKTOR
FRANKL WAS YOUR COMMITMENT,
YOUR AUTHENTIC COMMITMENT TO
MEANINGFUL VALUES AND GOALS.
AND ONLY YOU JUST LIKE ONLY ME
FOR MYSELF CAN ACTUALISE AND
FULFIL THOSE VALUES AND THOSE
GOALS.
THAT BECOMES VERY IMPORTANT SO
WE HAVE TO COMMIT AND IT'S VERY
IMPORTANT TO THINK ABOUT ARE
YOU COMMITTING?
ARE YOU AUTHENTICALLY
COMMITTING TO WHAT'S IMPORTANT,
WHAT MATTERS TO YOU?
AND FRANKL IDENTIFIED THREE
CLUSTERS IF YOU WILL OR
CATEGORIES OF VALUES THAT WERE
SOURCES OF MEANING.
THE FIRST ONE IS CREATIVE
VALUES.
CREATIVE VALUES.
THE IDEA BEING IS SOME OF US
WHETHER IT'S AT WORK OR OUR
PERSONAL LIVES WE HAVE TO BE
DOING THINGS CREATIVELY.
WE HAVE TO
EXPRESS OUR CREATIVITY OR WE
FEEL LIKE OUR SPIRIT IS DYING.
IT'S LIKE BEING TINKERBELL YOU
KNOW, PETER PAN?
REMEMBER TINKERBELL?
REMEMBER TINKERBELL BUZZING
AROUND?
WHAT HAPPENED WHEN TINKERBELL
WAS PUT INTO A LITTLE BOX? WHAT HAPPENED
TO HER LIGHT?
IT WENT OUT AND EVEN FEEL LIKE
THAT?
LIKE YOUR LIGHTS GOING OUT?
HUH?
SO THE IDEA HERE IS THAT IF
WE'RE NOT COMMITTING
AUTHENTICALLY TO THINGS THAT
MATTER TO US SUCH AS CREATIVE
VALUES AND IF CREATIVITY IS
IMPORTANT TO US OUR LIGHT IS
GOING TO START LIKE TINKERBELL
TO DIE OUT.
HOW MANY PEOPLE -- I'VE BEEN TO
SO MANY COMPANIES.
I WALK IN AND I SEE-- REMEMBER
THE MOVIE THE SIXTH SENSE?
I WALKED INTO COMPANIES WHERE I
COULD ACTUALLY TELL YOU TODAY I
SEE DEAD PEOPLE.
IT'S LIKE THE EMPLOYEES HAVE NO
SPIRIT.
ALL RIGHT, THEIR TINKERBELL
LIGHT HAS GONE OUT BECAUSE THEY
WANNA SAY BE CREATIVE AND
THEY'RE NOT GIVEN THE
OPPORTUNITY TO.
THEY FEEL LIKE THEY'RE PIECES
OF A MACHINE.
AND SO IF CREATIVE VALUES ARE
IMPORTANT TO YOU THEN YOU HAVE
TO FIND A WAY TO MANIFEST THOSE
CREATIVE VALUES AND IF YOU'RE
NOT ALLOWED TO DO IT AT WORK
YOU EITHER CHANGE YOUR JOB OR
YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO FIND
SOME OTHER WAY WHEN YOU'RE
OUTSIDE OF WORK.
OBVIOUSLY IDEALLY WE WANT TO
INTEGRATE THOSE, DON'T WE?
SO THE NOTION OF CREATIVE
VALUES, ACTUALISED CREATIVE
VALUES, THINK ABOUT THAT.
TO WHAT EXTENT IS CREATIVITY?
NOT EVERYBODY WANTS TO BE
CREATIVE, RIGHT?
AND NOT EVERY JOB IS GOING TO
NECESSARILY BE CREATIVE.
DO YOU WANT TO HAVE A CREATIVE
BUS DRIVER?
WHO YOU NEVER KNOW WHICH ROUTE
HE OR SHE'S GONNA DRIVE? MAYBE IT'S
HIT OR MISS?
I THINK THE BUS IS GOING TO
COME AROUND THE CORNER ANY
MINUTE BUT THAT WAS AT LEAST
LAST WEEK.
SO THE IDEA IS THAT BEING
CREATIVE WE HAVE TO HAVE
STANDARDS IN SOME CASES.
SO CREATIVE VALUES ISN'T ALWAYS
THE CASE.
SO WHAT IS ANOTHER SET OF
VALUES THAT ARE IMPORTANT?
VIKTOR FRANKL SAID WELL, A LOT
OF US IT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO
ACTUALISE EXPERIENTIAL VALUES.
IT'S THE ENCOUNTERS, THE
EXPERIENCES THAT WE HAVE THAT
MATTER NOT THE CREATIVITY SO
THE REASON MAYBE WE DON'T LIKE
OUR JOB BECAUSE IT'S NOT
CREATIVE EVEN THOUGH WE'RE
CREATIVE PEOPLE WE LIKE AND
LOVE OUR JOBS BECAUSE WE LOVE
THE EXPERIENCES WE HAVE, WE
LOVE THE PEOPLE WE WORK WITH.
WE LOVE OUR CUSTOMERS.
WE'RE TEACHERS, WE LOVE THE
KIDS.
I'M NOT ALLOWED TO BE VERY
CREATIVE IN THE CLASSROOM
BECAUSE I'VE GOT ALL THESE
RULES AND REGULATIONS BUT I
LOVE THE KIDS.
OKAY?
AND EXPERIENTIAL VALUE IS VERY
IMPORTANCE TO ME.
BUT WHAT IF EXPERIENTIAL VALUES
AREN'T REALLY IMPORTANT TO ME?
AND I REALLY DON'T CARE ABOUT
THE KIDS AND I'M A TEACHER.
GOT A PROBLEM THERE.
I WANNA BE CREATIVE BUT REALLY
MAYBE I WANT TO BE CREATIVE IN
THE WRONG WAYS AND THE THIRD
CLUSTER OF VALUES ARE
ATTITUDINAL VALUES WHICH I
ALREADY MENTIONED.
THE IDEA IS THAT ESPECIALLY IN
CASES WHERE WE'RE SAY HAVING
SUFFERING, WHERE WE'RE SAY
UNABLE TO CHANGE THE SITUATION
NOT JUST BECAUSE WE HAVE A JOB
AND YOU KNOW WE COULD CHANGE
JOBS BY LOOKING FOR ANOTHER
ONE.
QUITTING BUT SAY WE HAVE AN
INCURABLE DISEASE.
OR IN VIKTOR FRANKL'S CASE WE
WERE OBVIOUSLY PHYSICALLY
INCARCERATED WHERE THE
SUFFERING IS OUTSIDE OF OUR
CONTROL TO THE EXTENT THAT WE
CAN CHOOSE AN ATTITUDE THAT
ENABLES US TO BE POSITIVE WE
CAN ACTUALLY FIND MEANING EVEN
UNDER THOSE CIRCUMSTANCES.
AND THAT BECOMES INCREDIBLY
IMPORTANT UH, UH, SOURCE OF
MEANING AND OBVIOUSLY IN CASES
WHERE YOU'RE PHYSICALLY -- YOUR
HUMANITY HAS ALMOST BEEN
STRIPPED AWAY BECAUSE YOU'VE
BEEN, EVERYTHING'S BEEN
DEVASTATED AND IN VIKTOR
FRANKL'S CASE HE WAS
INCARCERATED.
SENATOR JOHN McCAIN'S' CASE.
IN HIS BIOGRAPHY, AUTOBIOGRAPHY
FAITH IN MY FATHER.
THE FIRST PAGE IS TRIBUTE TO
VIKTOR FRANKL BECAUSE
MAN'S SEARCH FOR
MEANING HELPED HIM
SURVIVE SEVEN YEARS AS PRISONER
OF WAR IN VIETNAM, OKAY?
HE HAD NO FREEDOM BUT HE KNEW
HIS ATTITUDINAL VALUES WERE
SUCH THAT DOGGONE IT, I'M GONNA
SURVIVE.
I'M GONNA BE AN INSPIRATION FOR
OTHER PRISONERS.
I'M NOT GONNA LET THEM BREAK MY
SPIRIT.
THINK ABOUT THAT.
THE WILL TO MEANING CANNOT
HAPPEN, FOLKS WITHOUT PERSONAL
RESPONSIBILITY.
THAT WAS VERY, VERY IMPORTANT
TO VIKTOR FRANKL.
IT WAS SO IMPORTANT AS A MATTER
OF FACT, THAT VIKTOR FRANKL
WHEN HIS LECTURES -- WHEN HE'D
COME TO THE U.S. HE'D GO AND
HE'D BE IN AN INTERVIEW WITH
SOMEBODY AND THEY'D SAY WELL,
YOU KNOW, HOW WAS YOUR TRIP?
AND SO FORTH AND THEY'D SAY
WELL, INTERESTING THING I LIKE
AMERICA.
I LIKE AMERICA.
I WAS TALKING SPECIFICALLY OF
THE U.S.
PROBABLY LIKED CANADA MORE BUT
TALK ABOUT THE U.S. BUT YOU
KNOW, YOU'VE GOT A STATUE OF
LIBERTY ON THE EAST COAST BUT
YOU KNOW WHAT?
I THINK YOU REALLY NEED IT
BECAUSE YOU'RE SO OBSESSED WITH
FREEDOM BECAUSE YOU NEED A
STATUE OF RESPONSIBILITY ON THE
WEST COAST TO BALANCE AS A KIND
OF COUNTER MONUMENT, RIGHT, A
BOOKEND MONUMENT.
WELL, THAT WAS HIS IDEA.
IT WAS AROUND 1960 HE CAME UP
WITH THAT IDEA FOR A STATUE OF
RESPONSIBILITY.
WE'RE ACTUALLY TRYING TO CREATE
THAT VISION AND MAKE IT A
REALITY SO THAT WE SEE THAT
IT'S TRUE FREEDOM DOES NOT COME
JUST FROM LIBERTY ALONE.
IF WE DON'T TAKE PERSONAL
RESPONSIBILITY FOR HELPING
OURSELVES AND EACH OTHER AND
THE PLANET WE'RE NOT COMPELLED
TO DO IT.
A FEW WEEKS AGO I HAD A REALLY
KIND OF TRANSFORMATIONAL
EXPERIENCE ABOUT THE WILL TO
MEANING AND VALUES BECAUSE I
HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO MEET
SOMEBODY WHO'D BEEN ONE OF THE
HEROES WHEN I WAS A YOUNG CHILD
WHEN I WAS GROWING UP AND THIS
HERO HAPPENED TO BE A TV MOVIE
STAR WHO WAS VERY INFLUENTIAL
IN MY LIFE BECAUSE MY FATHER
HAD BEEN ABSENT A LOT AND WAS
WORKING AND DOING HIS CORPORATE
STUFF AND SO FORTH AND SO THE
MAIN MALE FIGURE WHEN I WAS
GROWING UP PROBABLY BETWEEN
EIGHT AND 16 YEARS OLD WAS A TV
WESTERN ACTOR UH, IT WAS
ACTUALLY A SHOW CALLED CHEYENNE.
AND IF YOU'RE OLD ENOUGH YOU'LL
REMEMBER CHEYENNE BUT THE
ACTOR'S NAME WAS CLINT WALKER.
AND CLINT WALKER ALSO PLAYED...
HE WAS ONE OF THE STARS OF THE
MOVIE, ACADEMY AWARD-WINNING
MOVIE ACTUALLY CALLED
THE DIRTY DOZEN WITH LEE
MARVIN AND SO FORTH ANYWAY,
CLINT WALKER AND I BECOME
BELIEVE IT OR NOT CLOSE
FRIENDS.
HE WAS MY HERO WHEN I WAS A KID
BUT IT WAS INTERESTING HOW
IMPORTANT IT WAS IN THOSE
FORMATIVE YEARS FOR ME TO HAVE
SOMEBODY WHO COULD DISTINGUISH
YOU KNOW PERSONAL
RESPONSIBILITY THAT YOU'RE
RESPONSIBLE FOR YOUR TALENT TO
HELP PROTECT PEOPLE, YOU'RE
RESPONSIBLE FOR MAKING SURE
PEOPLE DON'T STARVE AND SO TO
KIND OF CONNECT TO ME IT WAS
KIND OF A BLESSING.
IT WAS LIKE A BLESSING TO BE
WITH VIKTOR FRANKL, IT WAS A
BLESSING TO CONNECT WITH
SOMEBODY WHO I HAD FORGOTTEN
WHO WAS SO IMPORTANT TO ME WHEN
I WAS GROWING UP AND HELPED
CREATE THIS NOTION THAT THE
WILL TO MEANING WAS IMPORTANT
TO ME.
SO THE IDEA HERE IS THAT THIS
WILL TO MEANING REALLY HINGES
ON YOUR PERSONAL -- NOBODY ELSE
CAN DO IT.
FIRST CHAPTER IN PRISONERS OF OUR
THOUGHTS IS ENTITLED
LIFE DOESN'T JUST HAPPEN TO US.
THINK ABOUT THAT.
EVEN THOUGH WE LIKE TO SAY THAT
IT DOES AND GOSH, YOU KNOW TALK
TO THE HAND, IT'S TERRIBLE.
SO THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT.
WE ALSO HAVE A PERSONAL
RESPONSIBILITY TO DO PRACTICE
PRINCIPLE NUMBER THREE IF YOU
LOOK ON THE BACK OF YOUR CARD
WHICH IS DETECT THE MEANING OF
LIFE'S MOMENTS AND I HAVE TO GO
RELATIVELY QUICKLY HERE BECAUSE
OF TIME ALL RIGHT, BUT I WANT
YOU TO GET THE ESSENCE OF THE
REMAINING PRINCIPLES BECAUSE I
DO WANT TO PRACTICE THESE.
DETECTING THE MEANING OF LIFE'S
MOMENTS.
I ALMOST FELT LIKE -- I'LL
PROBABLY DO THIS AT SOME POINT
CARRYING A BIG SET OF CHAINS ON
MY BODY AND ACTING LIKE THE
CHARACTER IN THE MOVIE -- YOU
KNOW THE MOVIE A CHRISTMAS CAROL?
REMEMBER EBENEZER SCROOGE AND
YOU REMEMBER WHO WAS THAT
PERSON WHO WAS CARRYING THE
BIG, HEAVY CHAINS?
IT WAS JACOB MARLEY.
OKAY?
AND I CAN IMAGINE CARRYING
THESE CHAINS ACROSS THE STAGE,
ALL RIGHT, BUT IF YOU LOOK AT
THE CHRISTMAS CAROL AND
THE MESSAGE WHAT WAS THAT
ABOUT?
IT WAS ABOUT JACOB MARLEY HAD
SPENT HIS LIFE LINK BY LINK
BUILDING HIS OWN CHAINS AND
IMPRISONING HIMSELF BECAUSE HE
WAS SO OBSESSED WITH MONEY.
HE DIDN'T CARE ABOUT HIS
COMMUNITY AND HE WAS AFRAID HE
WAS WARNING EBENEZER. HE SAID
SCROOGE, BAH-HUMBUG.
HE WAS SAYING SCROOGE, LOOK AT
ME.
LOOK AT THE GHOST OF YOUR
FRIEND, YOUR BUSINESS PARTNER
JACOB MARLEY. DO YOU WANT
TO HAVE CHAINS LIKE I HAVE AND
LIVE IN PURGATORY ALL RIGHT,
AND THERE'S A WHOLE STORY.
SO THE IDEA HERE IS WE NEED TO
STOP AND THINK ABOUT THE
MEANING OF LIFE'S MOMENTS AND
THINK ABOUT WHAT IS IT WE'RE
DOING AND THE DIFFERENCE IS IS
THAT IT'S NOT THE BIG PURPOSE
OF OUR LIFE NECESSARILY SOME OF
US NEVER FIND OUR CALLING, OUR
BIG PURPOSE IT'S ABOUT THOSE
LITTLE LINKS IN THE CHAIN, IT'S
THE MEANING OF EVERY MOMENT AND
VIKTOR FRANKL WOULD SAY THAT
THERE'S A SEED OF MEANING EVERY
MOMENT EVEN THE BAD ONES.
EVEN THE BAD MOMENTS SOMETHING
GOES WRONG IN YOUR PERSONAL
LIFE, IN YOUR WORK LIFE,
THERE'S MEANING IN THAT BUT
IT'S UP TO YOU AGAIN, TAKE
PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY TO
DETECT WHAT THAT MEANING IS.
AND IT REQUIRES SELF-
REFLECTION, IT REQUIRES
MEDITATION, TALKING TO OTHERS.
THIS IS WHERE LOCAL THERAPY CAN
COME IN AND REALLY FOCUS AND
SOMETIMES UNFORTUNATELY IT
TAKES CRISIS, CATASTROPHIC
EVENTS TO LET US STOP FOR A
SECOND AND SAY WHAT'S THE
MEANING OF THIS?
WHAT'S THE MEANING?
WHAT AM I DOING?
YOU KNOW THE SAYING IN
PRISONERS OF OUR THOUGHTS
THAT YOU CAN
CHANGE WITHOUT GROWING BUT YOU
CAN'T GROW WITHOUT CHANGING.
YOU CAN CHANGE WITHOUT GROWING
BUT YOU CAN'T GROW WITHOUT
CHANGING.
SO IF YOU'RE TRULY GROWING, IF
YOU ARE MOVING TOWARDS
ENLIGHTENMENT YOU ARE GOING TO
CHANGE, AREN'T YOU?
BUT HOW MANY PEOPLE DO YOU KNOW
JUST CHANGE BUT NEVER GET
ENLIGHTENED?
YOU KNOW, I CHANGE
RELATIONSHIPS ALL THE TIME.
I CHANGE PLACES WHERE I LIVE
ALL THE TIME.
I CHANGE JOBS ALL THE TIME AND
YOU SEE PEOPLE -- YOU EVER SEE
PEOPLE LIKE THAT 25 YEARS LATER
THEY'RE JUST THE SAME YUCKY
SPACE AS THEY WERE 25 YEARS
AGO.
DO YOU WANNA BE AROUND THEM?
NO.
YOU TYPICALLY WANT TO BE AROUND
PEOPLE WHO ARE MORE
ENLIGHTENED.
PEOPLE WHO ARE GOING THROUGH
PHASES WHERE THEY'RE ACTUALLY
TRYING TO GO THROUGH SELF-
DISCOVERY.
SO LET ME GIVE YOU FOUR
EXISTENTIAL DIGGING QUESTIONS
THAT WILL HELP YOU WITH THIS
PROCESS.
ANY SITUATION YOU ENCOUNTER I
DON'T CARE IF IT'S GOOD, BAD,
WHATEVER.
HELP OTHERS DO THIS.
ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU
ENCOUNTER, ANY SITUATIONS I
WANT YOU TO ASK YOURSELF THE
FOLLOWING FOUR QUESTIONS.
OKAY, HOW DID YOU RESPOND TO
THE SITUATION?
YOU KNOW, SOMEBODY CUT YOU OFF
IN TRAFFIC.
SOMEBODY AT WORK YOU KNOW, SAID
SOMETHING YOU DIDN'T LIKE.
YOU KNOW YOUR PARTNER, YOUR
SPOUSE DID SOMETHING THAT YOU
WEREN'T PARTICULARLY HAPPY
ABOUT OR YOU WERE HAPPY ABOUT.
HOW DID YOU RESPOND?
RESPONSE, BEHAVIOURAL RESPONSE.
SECOND QUESTION HOW DID YOU
FEEL ABOUT THE SITUATION?
YOU KNOW, WRITE DOWN SOME
EMOTIONAL WORDS SOME KEYWORDS.
I FELT FRUSTRATED, ANGRY,
HAPPY, EXHILARATED, DEPRESSED,
FRUSTRATED.
THIRDLY, WHAT DID YOU LEARN
FROM THE SITUATION?
WHAT DID YOU LEARN ABOUT
YOURSELF?
WHAT DID YOU LEARN ABOUT THE
SITUATION AND THEN FOURTHLY
WHICH IS THE HARDEST ONE THIS
IS THE ONE THAT REALLY GETS
INTO THAT DEVELOPMENT THING IS
HOW DID YOU GROW OR HOW WILL
YOU GROW OR DEVELOP AS A RESULT
TO THE SITUATION.
SO TYPICALLY WHAT HAPPENS WE
DON'T GET TO THE FOURTH LEVEL
OF DIGGING, DO WE?
WE SAY WE LEARN A LOT.
WE TAKE CLASSES, WE DO
WORKSHOPS, READ BOOKS BUT WE
DON'T GROW, WE DON'T DEVELOP
BECAUSE WE DON'T APPLY THE
LEARNING, IT HASN'T TAKEN ROOT
AND SO THE IDEA IS I'M JUST
GOING TO SHARE WITH YOU THOSE
ULTIMATELY THAT'S WHAT YOU WANT
TO DO.
NOW IF YOU TAKE THESE SEEDS OF
MEANING, IF YOU DETECT THE
SEEDS OF MEANING AS YOU DO
THESE FOUR QUESTIONS YOU MAY
SEE A PATTERN.
AND IF YOU LOOK AT IT, YOU
START DETECTING IT YOU SAY
JEEZ, YOU KNOW, I'M A LOT
BETTER OFF THAN I WAS 10 YEARS
AGO.
10 YEARS AGO I HAD THE SAME
KIND OF SITUATION HAPPEN AND I
PUNCHED THAT PERSON OUT OR A
QUIT MY JOB.
OR I LEFT THE RELATIONSHIP,
WHATEVER.
NOW I RESPOND HOPEFULLY IN A
MORE EVOLVED OR DEVELOPED WAY.
SO THAT'S THE THIRD PRINCIPLE.
DETECT THE MEANING OF LIFE'S
MOMENTS.
THE FOURTH ONE IS DON'T WORK
AGAINST YOURSELF.
THIS IS THE CONCEPT THAT VIKTOR
FRANKL'S LOGOTHERAPY REFERS TO
AS LOGOTHERAPY.
HAS ANYBODY EVER FELT LIKE YOU
WORKED AGAINST YOURSELF?
EITHER IN YOUR PERSONAL LIFE OR
YOUR WORK?
YOU KNOW, ONE STEP FORWARD, 10
STEPS BACK, RIGHT?
WELL, THE IDEA IS YOU WANT TO
HAVE INTENTION, RIGHT?
WE WANT TO INTEND TO BE GOOD
PARENTS.
GOOD WORKERS.
GOOD WHATEVER BUT INTENTION IS
NOT ENOUGH.
WAYNE DYER MAY SAY AND HE HAD A
BOOK OUT CALLED THE
POWER OF INTENTION I
BELIEVE IN INTENTION BUT WHAT
VIKTOR FRANKL WOULD SAY IS IF
INTENTION BECOMES OBSESSION IF
YOU BECOME FIXATED ON THE
OUTCOME YOU ACTUALLY CAN WORK
AGAINST THE DESIRED RESULT AND
THIS IS WHERE AS I SAID EARLIER
MICROMANAGERS, THEY'RE GOOD
INTENDED PEOPLE, RIGHT?
MOST BOSSES, EVEN IF THEY
MICROMANAGE REALLY WANT TO HAVE
A HIGH PERFORMING ORGANISATION,
TEAM, BUSINESS, GOVERNMENT
AGENCY IT JUST SO HAPPENS THAT
AGAIN BECAUSE OF FEAR OR
BECAUSE OF CONTROL THE WILL TO
POWER AND THEY END UP GETTING
OFF COURSE AND SO THE IDEA HERE
IS THAT THE NOTION OF
MICROMANAGEMENT AS I SAID
EARLIER RAISING TEENAGERS
SOMETIMES YOU EVER TRIED TO
STUDY FOR AN EXAM?
YOU TRIED SO HARD AND YOU KNOW,
THE MORE YOU TRIED IT SEEMED
LIKE THE MORE YOU KNOW, YOU
FORGOT.
ALL RIGHT, YOU'VE GOT TO LET
GO.
IT'S KIND OF LIKE THAT WHOLE
NOTION OF UM, YOU KNOW, DON'T
SWEAT THE SMALL STUFF.
LET GO A LITTLE BIT, LIGHTEN UP
AND SO FORTH OR SEEKING A RAISE
OR A PROMOTION SEEN THAT SO
MANY TIMES WHERE PEOPLE ARE SO
OBSESSED, THEY WANT TO LOOK
GOOD AND THEN EVERY -- AND WHAT
HAPPENS IS VIKTOR FRANKL IN
LOGOTHERAPY WE CALL IT HYPER
REFLECTION.
YOU KNOW, WE START SEEING
THINGS ABOUT OURSELVES THAT WE
DON'T LIKE.
WE SEE ALL THE MISTAKES, YOU
KNOW, ALL THE BLEMISHES AND
THEN WE BECOME OBSESSED WITH
THAT.
THE FIFTH ONE IS SOMETHING THAT
I LOVE THE WHOLE NOTION THAT
VIKTOR FRANKL WAS VERY INSTRUMENTAL
ON IS THE IDEA THAT SELF-
DETACHMENT, IT'S NOT DETACHING
YOURSELF JUST FROM A SITUATION,
FROM YOUR WORK, FROM YOUR
COLLEAGUES, IT'S THAT WE AS
HUMAN BEINGS
HAVE A UNIQUE QUALITY, A UNIQUE
TRAIT, WE'RE THE ONLY LIVING
ENTITIES THAT CAN DETACH
OURSELVES FROM OURSELVES.
ISN'T THAT AMAZING?
WE CAN LOOK AT OURSELVES FROM A
DISTANCE.
THINK ABOUT IT.
HOW MANY OF YOU HAVE PETS?
YOU HAVE DOGS?
DOES YOUR DOG SMILE?
DOES YOUR DOG SMILE AT HIMSELF?
OKAY, WE CAN.
HAVE YOU EVER DONE SOMETHING
WHERE YOU CAN ACTUALLY SEE
YOURSELF FROM A DISTANCE?
YOU CAN SEE YOURSELF MAKING A
MISTAKE.
YOU CAN SEE YOURSELF DOING
SOMETHING GREAT.
SO WE HAVE ACTUALLY IT'S THAT
NOTION, THE SENSE OF HUMOUR IS
ONE WAY.
WE CAN POKE FUN AT OURSELVES,
RIGHT?
I MEAN, RODNEY DANGERFIELD, YOU
ALL KNOW THE COMEDIAN RODNEY
DANGERFIELD WHO ALSO PASSED
AWAY IN 2004 RECENTLY HE MADE
AN ENTIRE CAREER OUT OF POKING
FUN AT HIMSELF.
I DON'T GET NO RESPECT.
HE HAD SO MANY JOKES YOU KNOW,
LIKE MY WIFE AND I WERE HAPPY
FOR 25 YEARS AND THEN WE MET.
OKAY, YEAH,
BUT HE MADE AN ENTIRE CAREER
OUT OF -- BUT HOW MANY OF US
KNOW PEOPLE WHO ARE SO
ENTRAPPED?
ARE SO ARMOURED?
I'M A PROFESSIONAL.
I'M NOT GOING TO LOOK FOOLISH.
I CAN'T MAKE FUN OF MYSELF.
THE SIXTH PRINCIPLE SHIFT YOUR
FOCUS OF ATTENTION.
IN LOGO THERAPEUTIC TERMS WE
REFER TO THIS AS DEREFLECTION.
THIS IS A CASE WHERE IMAGINE
NOW BEING IN A CONCENTRATION
CAMP OR PRISON IS THE ABILITY
TO SHIFT FROM THE SITUATION TO
SOMETHING MORE POSITIVE.
SO OBVIOUSLY IF YOU'RE
AUSCHWITZ THERE'S OBVIOUSLY NOT
A LOT POSITIVE THERE, RIGHT?
IF YOU'RE IN A BAD JOB OR BAD
RELATIONSHIP SOMETIMES IT'S
DIFFICULT.
BUT THE IDEA HERE IS WE DO HAVE
AN OPPORTUNITY TO FIND MAYBE
THE POSITIVE ATTRIBUTES OR
CHARACTERISTICS OF THE
SITUATION WHICH UNFREEZES US
MAYBE LONG ENOUGH TO FIGURE OUT
WHAT TO DO.
YOU CAN GET ANOTHER JOB.
YOU MOVE.
OKAY, HOPEFULLY WE'LL GET
LIBERATED.
WHATEVER IT IS.
SO THE IDEA IS NOTHING ELSE
DEREFLECTION IS A WAY FOR US TO
DEAL WITH STRESS.
TO COPE MORE EFFECTIVELY.
REMEMBER I TOLD YOU EARLIER I
WAS ALWAYS WONDERING WHY DO
SOME PEOPLE DEAL WITH CHANGE
BETTER THAN OTHERS?
BECAUSE SOME OF US ARE SO
FIXATED ON THE WORST PART OF
THE CHANGE.
OH, I GOTTA MOVE.
BUDGET'S GOTTA CUT.
I'M GONNA BE THE NEXT ONE TO
GET CUT.
ALL RIGHT, WELL, THEN I WOULD
TELL YOU LIST 10 POSITIVE
THINGS IF YOU LOST YOUR JOB
TODAY.
BECAUSE YOU'D PROBABLY FIND
SOMETHING POSITIVE.
RIGHT?
MAYBE YOU CAN DO SOMETHING THAT
YOU NEVER THOUGHT YOU COULD DO
BEFORE.
YOU KNOW, MAYBE IT'S A RELIEF,
ISN'T IT?
TO KIND OF FEEL INVIGORATED BY
BEING LIBERATED.
AND SO THE IDEA HERE IS IF YOU
CAN DEREFLECT, IF YOU CAN SHIFT
YOUR FOCUS OF ATTENTION
ESPECIALLY TO SOMETHING
POSITIVE YOU DON'T WANT TO GO
FROM NEGATIVE TO NEGATIVE.
IT'S KIND OF LIKE NEGATIVE
MAGNETS ON YOUR REFRIGERATOR.
I'M NOT GOOD LOOKING.
I'M NOT SMART.
I MEAN, WE START TELLING
OURSELVES ALL THESE VOICE OF
JUDGEMENT IS CONSTANTLY -- WE
KEEP PUTTING OURSELVES DOWN SO
THE IDEA HERE IS TO LOOK THE
OTHER WAY.
PERFECT EXAMPLE IN POPULAR
CULTURE WAS THE ACADEMY AWARD-
WINNING MOVIE LIFE IS BEAUTIFUL.
HOW MANY SAW THAT LIFE
IS BEAUTIFUL?
ISN'T THAT A GREAT MOVIE?
THINK ABOUT IT.
THINK OF THE MESSAGE.
BASED ON A TRUE STORY AS WELL
BUT IT WAS ROBERTO BENINI'S
MOVIE AND WHAT HE DID, WHAT DID
HE DO?
HE HAD HIS SON AND HE ACTUALLY
USED THE CAMP EXPERIENCE AND HE
TRIED TO MAKE IT INTO A GAME.
NOW HE WAS ACCUSED BY SOME
PEOPLE AS SAYING HE WAS
MARGINALISING, MINIMISING THE
HOLOCAUST.
HE WASN'T INTENDING TO DO THAT.
THE IDEA HERE WAS THAT HE WAS
TRYING TO SHOW THAT HE COULD
GET HIS YOUNG KID TO BASICALLY
SHIFT FOCUS OF ATTENTION.
IS REALLY THE ONE THAT'S
PROBABLY THE MOST DIFFICULT FOR
MOST OF US TO MANIFEST BECAUSE
IT IS THE MOST SPIRITUAL.
IT'S THE WHOLE NOTION OF SELF-
TRANSCENDENCE WHICH IS
OBVIOUSLY THE RIGHT AND PERFECT
PLACE HERE FOR US BUT IT'S THE
IDEA THAT WE NEED TO EXTEND
BEYOND OURSELVES.
THAT LIFE IS MORE THAN JUST THE
ACTIVITIES, THE TASKS THAT
WE'RE DOING DAY TO DAY.
IT'S THE ABILITY TO MANIFEST
THE HUMAN SPIRIT AT WORK AND IN
OUR PERSONAL LIVES BY RELATING
AND BEING DIRECTED TO SOMETHING
MORE THAN YOURSELF.
AND A GREAT EXAMPLE OF THAT IN
MY BOOK IS A STORY AND I'M
GOING TO GIVE YOU A WORK
EXAMPLE.
IT'S A STORY ABOUT ANDREA
JAEGER WHO HAPPENED TO BE THE
YOUNGEST SEATED PLAYER IN
WIMBLEDON HISTORY IN 1980 AND
SHE HAD -- SHE WAS PHENOMENAL.
THEY CALLED HER THE WUNDERKIND
AND ANDREA HAD SOME KNEE
PROBLEMS AND SHE WAS STARTING
TO BURN OUT SO SHE GAVE UP
PROFESSIONAL TENNIS BUT ONE OF
THE THINGS SHE DID SHE STARTED
A FOUNDATION AND A RANCH CALLED
THE SILVER LINING RANCH IN
ASPEN COLORADO.
IN WHICH FOR THE LAST WEEK OF
TERMINALLY ILL KIDS LIFE THEY
GET A CHANCE TO SPEND THAT WEEK
AT HER RANCH AND THEY CAN RIDE
HORSES, IF THEY CAN, THEY CAN
SLEIGH OR SKI OR EAT REGULAR
FOOD OTHER THAN HOSPITAL FOOD
OR WHATEVER AND THEN AFTER THE
END OF THAT WEEK THEY END UP
GOING BACK TO THEIR HOSPITAL OR
WHEREVER THEY ARE AND GUESS
WHAT?
THEY'RE NOT COMING TO CAMP NEXT
YEAR, ARE THEY?
THIS IS A VERY, VERY SERIOUS
THING AND SO THIS WAS AN
OPPORTUNITY FOR ANDREA WHEN SHE
LEFT TENNIS TO DO SOMETHING
MEANINGFUL TO HER.
BUT IN JULY 2001 ANDREA WAS
INTERVIEWED ON NBC's DATELINE
AND AFTER A TOUR OF THE RANCH
THE INTERVIEWER WAS SO
IMPRESSED SHE ASKED ANDREA HOW
DO YOU WANT TO BE REMEMBERED?
WITHOUT HAVING TO THINK ANDREA QUICKLY
RESPONDED I DON'T NEED TO BE
REMEMBERED I WANT THE KIDS TO
BE REMEMBERED.
NOW THINK ABOUT THAT.
THAT GIVES ME CHILLS EVERY TIME
I READ THAT AND I WROTE THAT
AND I THINK ABOUT THAT.
BUT THAT'S KIND OF KEY IS I
WANNA MAKE IS THAT THE NOTION
OF SELF-TRANSCENDENCE IS
SOMETHING WE CAN DO OURSELVES.
IT'S WHAT VIKTOR FRANKL WOULD
REFER TO AS ULTIMATE MEANING,
IT'S OUR ABILITY TO CONNECT TO
SOMETHING THAT'S HIGHER THAN
US.
WHETHER IT'S GOD, WHETHER IT'S
A SPIRITUAL THING SO MY
CONCLUSION IS IN ALL THIS IS
THAT THE MEANING DIFFERENCE
DOES MAKE A DIFFERENCE.
OKAY?
THE MEANING DIFFERENCE IS
REALLY SOMETHING THAT WE NEED
TO USE AS A COMPASS. I WAS
DISMAYED WHEN I READ THE PAPER
SEVERAL PAPERS THIS MORNING
WHEN I HEARD ABOUT THE YOUNG
MAN WHO DIED ON MOUNT EVEREST
AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU FEEL
IN TERMS OF YOUR ETHICAL BUT
THINK ABOUT YOUR VALUES. AND THINK
ABOUT PEOPLE PASSING BY
SOMEBODY WHO IN FACT'S DYING OR
IT WASN'T THAT THEY COULD'VE
SAVED HIS LIFE.
I THINK MOST PEOPLE WOULD SAY
THOSE THAT CLIMB MOUNTAINS LIKE
THAT THAT HE WAS PROBABLY IN
HIS LAST LEG AND WEREN'T TOO
MANY BREATHS LEFT.
BUT THINK ABOUT HIM DYING
ALONE.
ALL RIGHT?

A new black and white picture of Frankl in his sixties appears on screen.

Alex continues
VIKTOR FRANKL IN THE CAMPS
COULD'VE IGNORED -- HE SAW MANY
PEOPLE.
RIGHT?
CHEATING ON PEOPLE, TATTLE
TAILING ON PEOPLE, EXPOSING
THINGS THAT MAYBE THEY
SHOULDN'T HAVE.
AT THE SAME TIME WE SAW PEOPLE
WITH THEIR LAST CRUMB WHO
COULD'VE EATEN IT, THEY'RE
STARVING GIVING IT TO SOMEBODY
ELSE WHO FELT NEEDED IT MORE.
SO THE QUESTION IS AT WHAT
POINT DO WE HAVE PLEASURE OR
POWER DICTATE AND DRIVE WHERE
WE GO VERSUS MEANING.
IF MEANING IS IT THEN SOMEBODY
SHOULD'VE STAYED THERE WITH
THIS PERSON, RIGHT?
SOMEBODY WOULD'VE SAID WELL,
IT'S NOT THE PLEASURE OF SAYING
I MADE IT TO THE TOP BECAUSE I
DON'T WANT MY FRIENDS TO SAY I
WAS THE ONLY ONE WHO DIDN'T
MAKE IT TO THE TOP.
IT'S NOT THE POWER OF SAYING I
MADE IT TO THE TOP FIRST.
IT'S THE FACT THAT SOMEBODY
HERE NEEDED MY HELP AND IF
NOTHING ELSE NEEDED SOMEBODY TO
BE WITH HIM AND SO IT REALLY IF
YOU'RE NOT FAMILIAR WITH THE
STORY, YOU KNOW, PLEASE, PICK
UP ONE OF THE PAPERS TODAY BUT
I MEAN, I THINK IT'S SOMETHING
THAT IS UH, IS -- IS AN
ALARMING THING FOR -- CERTAINLY
AN EXAMPLE THAT WE NEED TO LOOK
AT AND I WANT YOU TO KIND OF
THINK ABOUT MEANING AS
SOMETHING THAT MAKES A
DIFFERENCE IN YOUR LIFE.
I WANT YOU TO THINK ABOUT THE
MEANING DIFFERENCE OF SOMETHING
YOU CAN BRING TO OTHERS AS A
REMINDER AS A PSYCHOLOGICAL
ANCHOR THAT WHEN YOU CAME TO
THIS LECTURE TONIGHT YOU
LEARNED SOMETHING THAT YOU'RE
GONNA ACTUALLY NOT JUST LEAVE
IN THIS LECTURE HALL THAT
YOU'RE ACTUALLY GOING TO TAKE
IT WITH YOU, PRACTICE IT AND
LIVE IT, THANK YOU.

Andrew appears back in the studio by himself.

He says WHAT AN INTERESTING
SOME MIGHT SAY ODD MIX OF
EUROPEAN GRAFITAS OF AN
AMERICAN SALESMANSHIP.
I WAS PARTICULARLY
INTRIGUED BY PATTAKOS'
ENCOURAGING US TO MAKE A LIST
OF 10 POSITIVE THINGS ABOUT OUR
OWN DEATH HOWEVER I THINK I WAS
SUICIDAL WHAT I WOULD NEED IS A
LIST OF 10 POSITIVE THINGS
ABOUT NOT DYING.
I APPLAUD PATTAKOS' ALTRUISM
AND YET THERE ARE DAYS WHEN I
JUST DON'T WANNA LOOK AT THE
BRIGHT SIDE OF LIFE.
THERE ARE MANY TIMES WHEN AND
I'M SURE YOU'VE FELT THIS WAY
AS WELL.
THERE ARE TIMES WHEN I WANNA BE
SAD.
I WANNA BE PISSED.
I WANNA BE LIVID.
AND I DON'T WANNA HAVE TO
APOLOGISE FOR IT BUT THERE'S
THIS PRESSURE FROM OTHERS FOR
YOU TO GET OVER IT AND STOP
MAKING EVERYTHING ABOUT YOU
BECAUSE ULTIMATELY YOUR PAIN
AFFECTS THEM AND WHAT'S WORSE
IT AFFECTS YOUR PRODUCTIVITY
WHICH IN THE END IS A
MANIFESTATION OF A LIFE WITH A
PURPOSE HOWEVER SMALL.
FINDING MEANING IN A GODLESS
UNIVERSE IS A NOBLE CAUSE AND
FOR SOME IT'S ESSENTIAL TO
OVERCOME A GREAT TRAGEDY IN
LIFE.
THE DIFFICULTY TODAY IS THAT
WE'RE CALLED UPON TO BE AUTHORS
OF OUR OWN MEANING WITHOUT THE
BENEFIT OF FAITH OR TRADITION.
IT'S NOT EASY.
WHAT IS EASY IS SENDING
US AN e-mail AT bigideas@tvo.org.
IF YOU WANNA BE
INFORMED ABOUT WHAT'S GONNA BE
ON OUR SHOW ON A WEEKLY BASIS.
HERE ARE FEW EXAMPLES OF
LECTURES WE ARE PLANNING FOR
YOU.

Next, the caption changes to "Coming up, Terry Eagleton." He’s in his fifties. He’s balding in the front and has short grey hair on the temples and a short beard. He wears a dark suit, red shirt and glasses.

Terry says I WAS
SPEAKING AT A MARXIST SOCIALIST
WORKERS PARTY CONFERENCE IN
LONDON A FEW YEARS AGO UH,
WHICH ONE COMRADE ROSE TO HIS
FEET TO CRY JUBILANTLY AND I
QUOTE "THERE HAVE NEVER BEEN AS
MANY REVOLUTIONARY
POSSIBILITIES AS THERE ARE
NOW."
WELL, MAYBE HE NEVER HEARD OF
OCTOBER 1917 OR MAYBE HE'D BEEN
SITTING IN A DARKENED ROOM WITH
A PAPER BAG OVER HIS HEAD FOR
RATHER TOO LONG AND WHAT'S
WRONG WITH THAT STATEMENT IS
NOT OF COURSE THAT THERE IS NO
GROUNDS FOR HOPE, FAR FROM IT.
FAR FROM IT.
I MEAN, THE UH, THE SEVERE
REBUFFS NOW BEING ISSUED TO
UNITED STATES AMERICAN
IMPERIALISM, THE LONG-TERM
DECLINE OF AMERICAN HEGEMONY,
THE SEISMIC POLITICAL SHIFTS IN
THE CONTINENT TO THE SOUTH OF
US AND SO ON.
AND CERTAINLY UM, THAT'S TRUE
BUT WHY DO SOME SECTORS OF THE
LEFT FEEL THAT OPTIMISM IS
ALWAYS A REVOLUTIONARY VIRTUE
JUST AS SOME UM, AMERICANS FEEL
THAT NEGATIVITY IS A KIND OF
THOUGHT CRIME.

Next, the caption changes to "Coming up, Stuart Isacoff." He appears on stage accompanied by a man playing the piano.

Isacoff’s in his mid-fifties. He’s mostly bald with very few hair on the temples and has a full beard. He wears a dark suit, light blue shirt, contrasting tie and glasses.

Stuart says ITS RANGE IS
AS LARGE AS AN ORCHESTRA'S.
IT ALLOWS 10 [Unclear]
SOMETIMES MORE TO BE STRUCK
SIMULTANEOUSLY AND HOLDS THEM
IN THE AIR AT A PIANIST'S WILL.
THE PIANO CAN GROWL AND SING
AND BEAT TIME.
IT CAN RENDER [Unclear] AND
IMPRESSIONIST WATERFALLS WITH
EQUAL NATURALNESS.
NOW THERE'S A REASON THAT THE
PIANO CAN DO ALL OF THESE
WONDROUS THINGS AND IT HAS TO
DO WITH THE FACT THAT THE
KEYBOARD ITSELF IS A WORK OF
SYMMETRY I WOULD SAY PERFECT
SYMMETRY BUT I WOULD BE LYING.

Andrew’s back in the studio.

He concludes THAT’S ALL FOR BIG IDEAS
I'M ANDREW MOODIE,
SEE YOU NEXT TIME.

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The end credits roll.

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Producers, Mike Miner, Wodek Szemberg, Matt Faulknor and Lara Hindle.

Audio, Alexandre L. Brulé.

Editors, Marisa Gatto and Empyreal Palmer.

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