Transcript: Imprint season 13 episode 22 | Feb 20, 2002

Tina Srebotnjak stands in a studio with pieces of art in red and orange hanging in the background.
She’s in her late thirties, with short chestnut hair and bangs. She’s wearing glasses, a black turtleneck sweater and a red blazer.

Tina says HELLO.
I'M TINA SREBOTNJAK.
TONIGHT, "IMPRISONMENT" TRAVELS
AROUND THE GLOBE.
NO PASSPORT NEEDED.
FROM THE MOUNTAINS.
PERU TO THE DESERTS OF AFRICA,
WHY ANTHROPOLOGIST WADE DAVIS
RELISHES HIS TIME IN FOREIGN
CLIMES.

Wade Davis is in his mid-forties, clean-shaven and with short wavy blond hair. He wears a gray polo T-shirt and a gray sports jacket.

He says LIKE DANCING WITH SOMEBODY
THE FIRST TIME.
DON'T KNOW WHERE IT WILL GO AND
HOW-- IF YOU'LL GET THE RIGHT
RHYTHM AND HOW THE EVENING WILL
END, BUT THE PROCESS IS
EXTREMELY EXCITING AND THE
RESULT IS ALWAYS GRATIFYING.

A fast clip shows images of books in a bookstore.

Tina says LITERARY TRAVEL
BOOKS.
AROUND-- AND THE RECOMMENDED
READING FOR THE ARMCHAIR
TRAVELLER.
THE IMMIGRANT EXPERIENCE
BROUGHT TO LIFE IN THE BOOK OF
CHITRA DIVAKARUNI.

Chitra Divakaruni is in her mid-thirties, with long wavy black hair.

She ays THAT IS ONE OF THE GREAT
THINGS THAT LITERATURE CAN DO.
AS A READER, I FELT THAT
MYSELF.
THAT YOU COME TO UNDERSTAND A
DIFFERENT CULTURE.
AND THEN YOU COME TO SEE THAT
WE'RE NOT SO AS HUMAN BEINGS.

Tina says AND MEET ETGAR
KERET. AN ISRAELI WRITER WHOSE UNUSUAL
STORIES PRESENT HIS OPTIMISTIC
VIEW OF THE WORLD.

Etgar is in his mid-thirties, clean-shaven and with short wavy black hair and sideburns.

He says I SEE EVERY
SHORT STORY AS A COMMERCIAL FOR
LIFE.
YOU KNOW, LIKE LIFE, YOU SHOULD
TRY IT SOMETIME.

The cover of Etgar’s book, "The bus driver who wanted to be good" pops up. An illustration of a man shooting himself with a smile on his face illustrates the cover.

(music plays)

Fast clips show books and maps in hues of orange and red and a magnifying glass in the shape of a sun. The title "Imprint" appears on screen.

Tina says WE'VE GOT SEVERAL
GUIDES FOR OUR TRAVELS TONIGHT.
FIRST UP IS CANADA'S WADE
DAVIS.
HE'S A WORLD RENOWN
ANTHROPOLOGIST AND WRITER WHO
STUDIES OF EXOTIC CULTURES HAVE
TAKEN HIM ALL OVER THE PLANET.
"LIGHT AT THE EDGE OF THE WORLD
" IS THE LATEST BOOK BY WADE
DAVIS.
IT'S A TEXT THAT TAKES US INTO
THE HEART OF VANISHING
CULTURES.

Several pictures of people of different cultures and places appear.

A caption reads "Wade Davis. Light at the edge of the world."

He says THE GREAT REVELATION OF
ANTHROPOLOGY IS THE IDEA THAT
THERE ARE OTHER WAYS OF BEING.
YOU KNOW, WHETHER IT'S TO BE IN
THE FORESTS OF BORNEO OR THE
INUIT IN THE ARCTIC.
OR THOSE IN THE FOREST.
ALL OF THESE CULTURES TEACH US
THAT THERE ARE OTHER
POSSIBILITIES.
AS A WRITER, YOU RIGHT ABOUT
THESE OTHER POSSIBILITIES.
AND "LIGHT AT THE EDGE OF THE
WORLD" IS A LOOK THE CULTURE
AND A LA M ENT OF THE DEMISE OF
THE CULTURE AND THE FORESTS
THAT ARE, IN FACT, CAUSING THAT
DEMISE.
YOU WERE BORN, THERE WERE 6,000
LANGUAGES ON THE EARTH.
NOW A LANGUAGE ISN'T JUST A
BODY OF VOCABULARY OR RULES,
IT'S A FLASH OF A SPIRIT OR THE
VEHICLE IN WHICH A SOUL COMES
INTO THE MATERIAL WORLD AND OF
THOSE 6,000, FULLY 3,000 AS WE
ARE NOT OKAY TAUGHT TO SCHOOL
CHILDREN.
WHICH MEANS THAT EFFECTIVELY,
IN ESSENCE, THEY'RE ALREADY
DEAD OR AT LEAST THEY'RE DYING
X THIS REPRESENTS AN
EXTRAORDINARY THING.
THIS IS THE LOST-- BY TWINS, OF
HALF OF HUMANITY'S
INTELLECTUAL, SPIRITUAL, EVEN
PSYCHOLOGICAL LEGACY WITHIN A
SINGLE GENERATION AND SO WE'RE
TRYING TO DRAW ATTENTION TO
THAT EXTRAORDINARY PHENOMENON.

Pictures of people from Alaska to Africa appear.

Wade says I ALWAYS FIND THAT IT JUST
PHENOMENALLY EXCITING TO KNOW
THAT THESE WORLDS JUST EXIST
AND IN A WAY THIS BOOING "LIGHT
AT THE EDGE OF THE WORLD ."
BECAUSE IT IS ALL THE
PHOTOGRAPHS I'VE TAKEN OVER 25
YEARS OR MORE OF WORK IN MY--
IN THIS FIELD AND OF ALL OF MY
TRAVELS, IT'S A PATH OF WONDER
THAT I CHOSE FROM MY
EXPERIENCE, THOSE CULTURES AND
THOSE EXPERIENCES THAT MOST
PERFECTLY CELEBRATED, THE
WONDER OF WHAT I'M TALKING
ABOUT.
YOU KNOW?
YOU KNOW?
THE SMELL OF ANIMAL AT-- URINE
AT 40 PACES AND TELL YOU WHAT
ANIMAL LEFT IT BEHIND.
AND THOSE THAT WHISTLE ACROSS
THE VOCABULARY BASED ON THE
WIND.
OR HANDING BURNING EMBERS OF
IMPUNITY BY ONE CULTURE TO ME
AS A LITTLE BOY, THAT TO ME
STILL SAYS THAT'S REALLY COOL.
I TRAVELLED LIKE THIS FOR SO
LONG AND IT'S BEEN PART OF MY
WHOLE WORLD VIEW AND BEING FOR
SO LONG THAT IT'S JUST
EXTREMELY NATURAL FOR ME.
IN FACT, I-- I FIN IT VERY
LIBERATING TO GO TO PLACES THAT
I KNOW SO LITTLE ABOUT.
AND THAT SORT OF PARACHUTE IN
AND, YOU KNOW, IT'S CURIOUS.
BECAUSE ONE OF THE THINGS YOU
HAVE TO DO IN ANTHROPOLOGY IS
FIND THE RIGHT CONDUIT TO
CULTURE.
THINK OF WHAT WE DO.
TURN UP IN SOMEBODY'S DOORSTEP
AND YOU'RE GOING TO HOUSE AND
FEED ME AND I'M GOING TO STUDY
YOUR PRIVATE LIVES.
IF SOMEBODY RANG OUR DOORBELL,
WE WOULD CALL THE POLICE, YOU
KNOW?
AND YOU HAVE-- I HAVE TO FIND
THE WAY.
THAT'S THE A DANCE.
IT'S ABOUT ESTABLISHING
RELATIONSHIP, PHOTOGRAPHY AND
ONCE YOU DO THAT, IT'S PROFOUND
BY GRATIFYING AND YOU ESTABLISH
THAT RELATIONSHIP BY SEEKING
THAT-- THAT RIGHT METAPHOR.
ONCE DO YOU THAT, IT'S SORT OF
LIKE DANCING WITH SOMEONE FOR
THE FIRST TIME.
YOU DON'T QUITE KNOW WHERE IT'S
GOING TO BE AND-- TO GO AND
WHETHER YOU'LL GET THE RIGHT
RHYTHM AND HOW THE EVENING'S
GOING TO END BUT THE PROCESS IS
EXTREMELY EXCITING AND THE
RESULT IS GRATIFYING IN SOME
SENSE AND, OF COURSE, THAT'S
WHAT REALLY ANTHROPOLOGY IS ALL
ABOUT WHAT MAKES IT SO
FASCINATING IS THAT EVERY HUMAN
CULTURE HAS THE SAME... THERE'S
A COMMONALITY.
AND THE PHOTOGRAPHER COMES
ALONG AND SORT OF SEPARATES OUT
THE INDIVIDUAL THREADS AND
HOLDS HEM TO THE-- THEM TO THE
LIGHT AND SHOWS HOW EACH
CULTURE DEALS WITH THE-- WITH
THE STILL REMAINING PART OF THE
FABRIC BUT DEALS WITH LIFE IN
SUCH A UNIQUE AND PARTICULAR
WAY AND I JUST FIND THAT SO
INTERESTING.

Tina says "LIGHT AT THE EDGE OF
THE WORLD" BY WADE DAVIS IS
PUBLISHED BY DOUGLAS AND
MCENTYRE.
WADE DIS HAS MET HUNDREDS OF
REMARKABLE PEOPLE IN HIS
TRAVELS.
HERE'S THE STORY OF ONE OLD MAN
WHO MADE A LIFE-LONG IMPRESSION
ON THE AUTHOR.

Wade says YOU KNOW, MAYBE BECAUSE I
NEVER KNEW MY OWN GRANDPARENTS,
I'VE ALWAYS BEEN DRAWN TO
ELDERS AND TO BE ABLE TO SPEND
TIME WITH AN OLD MAN AND TO BE,
TO BE-- TO FEEL THE RESONANCE
OF HIS PAST AS-- IS ONE OF THE
GREATEST EXPERIENCES I HAVE IN
ANTHROPOLOGY AND IN NORTHERN
CANADA, I WAS SO LUCKY ONCE TO
KNOW AN OLD ELDER WHOSE NAME
MEANT HE WHO WALKS SLEEPING AND
LEFT NO TRACKS.
AND FOR MANY YEARS I RECORDED
STORIES OF ANTHOLOGY FROM HIM
AND HE PASSED AWAY RECENTLY AND
IT WAS ONE OF THE MOST MOVING
TRANSITION IN MY LIFE.

He reads an excerpt from a book.

He says ALEX LIVED FOR OVER 90 YEARS,
AND HIS WIFE LIVED 103, PASSING
AWAY A FEW SEASONS BEFORE ALEX
FOLLOWED HER TO THE GRAVE A
YEAR BEFORE HE DIED, ALEX GAVE
ME A SMALL GIFT.
A TOOL CARVED FROM CARIBOU
BONE.
SMOOTH AS MARBLE, THOSE STAINED
FROM-- THOUGH STAINED FROM
YEARS OF USE IT, FIT PERFECTLY
IN MY HAND, THE ROUNDED AND
SLIGHTLY SERRATED SPOON-LIKE TIP
PROTRUDING NEATLY BETWEEN
FINGER AND THUMB.
I HAD NO IDEA WHAT IT WOULD BE
USED FOR.
ALEX LAUGHED.
HE HAD CARVED IT MORE THAN 80
YEARS BEFORE FOLLOWING THE LEAD
OF HIS GRANDFATHER.
IT WAS A SPECIALIZED INSTRUMENT
USED TO-- TO SKIN OUT THE
EYELIDS OF WOLVES.
ONLY LATER DID I REALIZE THAT
THE EYELIDS IN QUESTION WERE MY
OWN AND THAT ALEX, HAVING DONE
SO MUCH TO ALLOW ME TO SEE,
WAS, IN HIS OWN WAY, SAYING
GOODBYE.

(music plays)

An animated book sitting on a set of rocks opens to reveal images of travel books and of Etgar Keret.

Tina says COMING UP...
LITERARY TRAVEL BOOKS, THE JOYS
OF WORLD TRAVEL WITHOUT ALL THE
HASSLES.
AND LATER, KERET... ISRAEL'S
HOTTEST NEW WRITER.
IT'S THE TIME OF YEAR WHEN
CANADIANS YEARN TO BE SOMEWHERE
ELSE.
LOUNGING ON A BEACH IN THE
CARIBBEAN, PERHAPS?
A LITTLE MAI TAI IN HAND?
IF YOU DON'T HAVE EXOTIC
TRAVEL PLANS YOURSELF, WHY NOT
ESCAPE INTO GREAT TRAVEL
LITERATURE.
THERE ARE HUNDREDS OF TITLE
THES OUT THERE FOR LITERARY
TRAVELLERS, WHETHER YOUR TASTES
ARE FROM THE BEACH TO THE HIGH
ARCTIC AND HERE TO SHARE SOME
OF THEIR FAVOURITES ARE A
FREE-- A FREELANCE-- ARE A
FREELANCE WRITER AND A WRITE WE
ARE THE GLOBE AND MAIL.
HELLO.
WHAT MAKES A GOD TRAVEL BOOK
FOR YOU?

The caption changes to "Betty Zyvatkausas. Travel writer."

Betty is in her early fifties, with short wavy gray hair. She wears a blue blouse and a pair of earrings.

She says I THINK IT'S PERSONALITY AND
PLACE.
YOU HAVE TO HAVE A BOOK THAT
EVOKES, UM, THE PLACE THAT
YOU'RE IN, AND YOU HAVE TO FEEL
THAT YOU'RE-- AS THE READER
THAT YOU'RE VISITING THAT SAME
PLACE, AND HAVING AN ADVENTURE
AND WALKING THOSE HIKING
TRAILS, WHATEVER.
BUT YOU HAVE TO FEEL THAT
YOU'RE MEETING CHARACTERS, ONE
OF WHOM IS THE AUTHOR.
THEY HAVE TO BE LIKABLE AND
INTERESTING CHARACTERS.

Tina says YEAH, YOU WANT TO BE
TRAVELING WITH THEM, RIGHT?

Betty says YES.

Tina says AND THE FIRST ONE, I
LOVE THE NAME "HER FORK IN THE
ROAD."
AND THIS COMBINES TWO OF YOUR
PASSIONS, FOOD AND TRAVEL.

Betty holds a copy of a book called "Her fork on the road."

A plate full of different kinds of foods illustrates the cover.

Betty says ABSOLUTELY.
THIS IS A BRILLIANT ANTHOLOGY.
A DELICIOUS ANTHOLOGY WRITTEN
AT THE JUNCTION WHEN CULINARY
WRITING MEETS TRAVEL WRITING.
AND, UM, AND YOU'VE GOT VERY
SHOT ESSAYS THAT YOU CAN EASILY
READ BEFORE BED TIME, UM, BUT--
BUT YOU'VE GOT A WIDE RANGE.
YOU HAVE SOME OF THE GRAND DAMS
OF, UM, OF CULINARY WRITING
TALKING ABOUT THEIR GOURMETS
EXECUTIONS-- EXCURSIONS IN
FRANCE AND YOU HAVE PEOPLE
EATING ON THE ROAD.
THERE'S A WONDERFUL ESSAY FROM
SOMEONE WHO IS HIKING, UM, THE
APPALACHIAN TRAIL AND SO HUNGRY
SHE BE CAN GET ENOUGH CALORIES
A DAY AND END UP PICKING UP
M and M'S ALONG THE WAY, SHE'S THAT
DESPERATE FOR FOOD.
BUT ON THE WHOLE, THE-- THE
BOOK'S TONE IS VERY LIGHT, VERY
ACCESSIBLE.

Tina says SOMETHING FOR
EVERYBODY IS TOWN LIKE, EH?

Betty says ABSOLUTELY.

Tina says AND YOUR FIRST CHOICE
"HORIZOTAL EVEREST."

The caption changes to "Laszlo Buhasz. The Globe and Mail."

Laszlo is in his mid-fifties, with short wavy gray hair and a beard.

He holds a copy of the book "The horizontal Everest."

Laszlo says IT'S A BOCK THAT JUST CAME
OUT BY JERRY KOBALENKO WHO IS
FROM CALGARY.
HE SPENT THE PAST 15 YEARS,
EVERY YEAR GOING UP TO
ELLESMERE ISLAND FOR SOME
REASON.
HE FELL IN LOVE WITH IT AND
THIS BOCK IS BEST TO BE READ IN
THE SUMMER BECAUSE THERE'S
TERRIFICALLY COLD HORROR
STORIES IN HERE.
WHAT MAKES THIS BOOK REALLY
INTERESTING IS THAT HE-- HE
WEAVES IN THE HISTORY OF
EXPLORATION FROM THE PAST,
ESPECIALLY THE LATE 1800'S OF
ELLESMERE ISLAND AND SOME OF
THE ABSOLUTELY DISASTROUS, YOU
KNOW, SORT OF MOSTLY
BRITISH-LED EXPEDITIONS, AND HE
JUST-- HE'S JUST EVOKES THE
LANDSCAPE SO BEAUTIFULLY.

Tina says DOES HE MAKE YOU
UNDERSTAND WHAT KEEPS PULLING
HIM THERE?
BECAUSE THAT WOULD BE THE
CHALLENGE FOR ME.

Laszlo says WELL, HE'S JUST DRAWN TO
THESE LONELY, UM THESE LONELY
BARREN PLACES.
I MEAN BE THERE'S LOTS OF ROOM
TO ROAM AND BE ALONE AND-- TO
ROAM AND BE ALONE AND THAT'S
WHAT HE LIKES.
CHALLENGED BY NATURE.

Tina says OH, YEAH,
NOW, BETTY, YOU HAVE A BILL
BRIESEN BOOK.

Betty holds a copy of the book "A walk in the woods."

She says YEAH, HE'S CHALLENGED BY
NATURE, TOO.
NOT SO TRIUMPHANTLY, THOUGH, IS
POOR BILL.
THIS IS MY FAVOURITE OF BILL
BRYSON'S BOOKS AND I THINK
LARGE YOU I-- LARGELY BECAUSE
IT HAS THAT ELEMENT OF PERSONALITY.

Tina says HE HAS A LOT OF
PERSONALITY.

Betty says HIM AND THAT STEVEN KAATZ
WHO COMES WITH HIM.
HE'S THE ONLY GUY THAT WILL
JOIN HIM ON THE AMBITIOUS HIKE.
2,000 MILES PLUS ACROSS THE
APPALACHIAN.
AND STEVEN IS A NOT SO REFORMED
ALCOHOLIC AND WANTS TO BRING
ALONG A LOT OF DOUGHNUTS AND
DEBBIE CAKES.
SO YOU CAN TELL THIS THING IS
DOOMED FROM THE OUTSET.
AND THEY HAVE INCREDIBLE
DIFFICULTIES.
O FIRST DAY OUT, STEVEN DITCHES
HALF THE FOOD SUPPLIES BECAUSE
THE CANS OF SPAM ARE JUST TOO
HEAVY TO CARRY.

Tina says THEY BROUGHT SPAM?

Betty says YEAH.
WHICH THEY--

Tina says OKAY.

Betty says WHICH THEY HURL OVER A
CLIFF.
STEVEN HURLS OVER A CLIFF AND
THEN-- AND IN TOTAL FRUSTRATION
AND EXHAUSTION ON THEIR FIRST
DAYS-- FIRST DAY OUT.
NEEDLESS TO SAY, THEY DOAN DO
THE WHOLE TRAIL.

Tina says BUT IT TOWN LICK THEIR
RELATIONSHIP IS THE JOURNEY,
RIGHT?
THE TWO OF THEM TOGETHER--

Betty says ABSOLUTELY.

Tina says IS WHAT KEEPS YOU
GOING.

Betty says IF WE WERE DOING THE TRAIL,
THIS IS PROBABLY MUCH LIKE WHAT
IT WOULD BE LIKE FOR US.

Tina says YES, BUT WE WOULDN'T
TAKE SPA M, AT THIS.

Betty says NO.

Tina says NO SPAM IN THE NEXT
BOOK, I THINK.
BUT IT'S A GREAT NAME.

Laszlo says "PASS THE BUTTER WORMS."
WHICH IS A REMOTE JOURNEYS
ODDLY RENDERED.
IT'S A COLLECTION OF SHORT
STORIES.
UM, BUTTER WORMS THE WAY ARE
AN INSECT DELICACY IN NEW
GUINEA.
HE'S A WONDERFUL WRITER.
AND, UM, AND-- AND HE'S.
HE'S KIND OF A NEW-AGE
MANLEY WRITER.
HE WRITES ABOUT, UM, ABOUT
CONSERVATION AND THE
ENVIRONMENT, ONE OF THE FIRST
TO DO SO IN THIS KIND OF A
MAGAZINE.
AND, UM, AND HE-- HE SORT OF
DID A-- AN AWFUL LOT OF TRAVEL
IN VERY REMOTE AND EXOTIC
PLACES AND WROTE ABOUT THEM.
ALASKA, NEW GUINEA, HONDURAS,
UM, AND THIS IS ONE OF HIS
COLLECTIONS.
MOSTLY BASED ON ARTICLES THAT
HE WROTE FOR THE MAGAZINE BUT
EXPANDED RECENTLY.

Tina says AND HE'S A GRIPING
WRITER?

Laszlo says EXCELLENT WRITER.

Tina says OKAY, BETTY, WHAT'S
YOUR NEXT PICK?

Betty says YEAH, THIS IS SLIGHTLY OLDER
BOOK.
RELEASED IN 1989.
"TIME AMONG BY THE MAYA" BY
RONALD WRIGHT'S WHO'S A GREAT
WRITER.
HIS TALENT LIES IN TAKING A
DIFFICULT SUBJECT WHICH IS THE
MAYA CALENDAR AND THEIR SYSTEM
OF MATHEMATICS AND THEIR
ASTRONOMY AND SIMPLIFYING IT IN
SUCH A WAY THAT YOU CAN
UNDERSTAND IT.
WHETHER YOU UNDERSTAND THAT,
THERE'S A GRIPING TRAVELING
TALE AS WRIGHT GOES THROUGH
GUATEMALA AND BELIZE AND HE
MEXICO, MEETING THE DESCENDANT OF THE MAYA WHO CREATED
THIS SYSTEM.
HE'S A GREAT WRITER ALSO
BECAUSE OF THE CHARACTERS HE
MEETS ALONG THE WAY.
HE HAS A GIFT FOR DIALOGUE.
WHEN HE TALKS TO PEOPLE, HE
ALWAYS CAPTURES THEIR PATE
PERFECTLY SO YOU FEEL THAT
YOU'RE MEETING THESE BIZARRE
BRITISH BUTTERFLY CHARACTERS OR
THE CREOLE CHARACTERS HE MEETS
OR THIS CORRUPT GERMAN COLLECTORS
OF ANTIQUITIES THAT IS HE
SHOULDN'T BE TAKING, AND YOU
FEEL THAT YOU KNOW THEM.

Tina says WHAT'S THE NEXT BOOK?

Laszlo says IT'S "TRAVELS IN THE..." BY
A CANADIAN WRITER.
GOT A JOB AS AN ENGLISH-FRENCH
PAPER IN MONGOLIA AND HER
INSIGHTS INTO THIS FASCINATING
PLACE ARE REALLY GOOD AND I
GUESS THIS PICTURE SAYS IT ALL.
OUT IN THE DESERT WITH A
SATELLITE DISH.

Tina says THAT'S A GREAT
PICTURE.

Laszlo says RIGHT BESIDE IT.
HALF OF THEM STILL LIVE IN THESE
HERDING THEIR ANIMALS AND THE
OTHER HALF LIVE IN CITIES WITH
CELL PHONES AND MERCEDES AND
ALL THE TRAPPINGS OF A MODERN
WORLD BESIDE THE OLD ONE SO
MANY IT'S QUITE A FASCINATING
LOOK AT ONE OF THESE COUNTRIES
IN TRANSITION.

Tina says BOY IT SOUND LIKE IT.
30 SECOND LEFT.
TELL ME ABOUT ONE MORE THING.

Betty says "STARTING OUT IN THE
AFTERNOON" BY JILL FRAYNE.
THIS IS A WOMAN IN MID-LIFE
SETTING OUT IN A CHALLENGING
JOURNEY.
KAYAKING AND DISCOVERING THE
CANADIAN NORTH.
AND IT'S THE-- THE AFTERNOON IS
A METAPHOR ARE-- FOR TH TIME
IN HER LIFE WHERE AFTER A
CRUMBLING RELATIONSHIP SHE SETS
OUT TO HAVE AN ADVENTURE AND
THROUGH THE ADVENTURE DISCOVER
HERSELF.

Tina says AND THIS IS COMING OUT
SOON.

THIS IS COMING OUT IN MARCH.

Tina says AND QUICKLY.

Laszlo says ERIC NEWBIES "A SHORT WALK
IN THE HINDU KURSH."
ORIGINALLY PUBLISHED IN '56 AND
A STORY ABOUT A BOY FROM THE
HIGH FASHION WORLD OF LONDON
AND GOES FOR A HIKE IN
NORTHEASTERN AFGHANISTAN.
WHICH, YOU KNOW, IT'S A VERY
FUNNY BOOK, TOO.

Tina says STILL GOOD 4 A YEARS
LATER, HUH?

Laszlo says WONDERFUL.

Tina says WE LIKE TO HEAR THAT.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR COMING IN
MUCH I FEEL LIKE I'VE BEEN ALL
OVER THE WORLD NOW.

Betty says THANKS.

Laszlo says THANKS.

(music plays)

Tina says AND NOW TO A WRITER
WHOSE FICTION SPANS TWO WORLD:
INDIA AND THE UNITED STATES.
DIVAKARUNI LEFT CALCUTTA WHEN
SHE WAS 19 AND NOW IS SETTLED
NEAR SAN FRANCISCO.
HER NOVELS ARE ABOUT IMMIGRANT
WOMEN CAUGHT BETWEEN THE OLD
WORLD AND THE NEW.
HER LATEST BOOK IS CALLED "THE
VINE OF DESIRE."
IT TELLS THE STORY OF TWO WOMEN
AS HE EXPERIENCE THE PULL
BETWEEN TRADITIONAL INDIAN
SOCIETY AND MODERN AMERICAN
LIFE.

A picture of the book cover appears. Two intertwined flowers held by two different people’s hands illustrate the cover.

Chitra reads out loud in a bar.

She says THE ROOM IS FULL OF MY
DAUGHTER'S ABSENCE.
HER SMELL IS PUNGENT AND WILD
GRASS.
THE TINDERY ODOUR OF
STUBBORNNESS.
I TAKE A BABY BLANKET AND PRESS
FACE INTO IT.
EVEN MY TEETH HURT WITH
LONELINESS.
MY MINUTE WHIPS ABOUT.
EAST AND WEST, THE RIVER OF MY
LIFE IS SPEEDING TOWARDS AN
ABYSS.
WHAT SHALL I DO?
I WANT AN EXISTENCE IRIDESCENT AS NAIL POLISH.
I WANT SLEEP OF THE I WANT TO
BITE INTO THE APPLE OF AMERICA.
I WANT TO SWIM TO INDIA, TO THE
PARROT GREEN SMELLS OF
CHILDHOOD.
I WANT TO-- A MOTHER'S ARMS TO
WEEP IN.
I WANT MY WEATHER VANE MIND TO
STOP ITS MANIC SPINNING.

The caption changes to "Chitra Divakarum. The vine of desire."

She says I THINK I LIKE WRITING ABOUT
IMMIGRANT WOMEN, BECAUSE THAT
IS-- HAS BEEN SUCH A BIG PART
OF MY LIFE EXPERIENCE.
REALLY COMING TO-- TO THE
UNITED STATES CHANGED MY ENTIRE
LIFE.
AND MY UNDERSTANDING OF, OF
WHAT IT MEANT TO BE A WOMAN OF
MY CULTURE LIVING SOMEWHERE
ELSE.
AND IT MADE ME EXAMINE MY
CULTURE MUCH MORE THAN I HAD
EVER DONE WHEN I WAS LIVING IN
CALCUTTA, WHERE I WAS
IMMERSED IN MY CULTURE.
AND SO FOR MY-- THE WOMEN IN MY
NOVELS AND MY SHORT STORIES,
THAT MOVEMENT FROM-- FROM THE
EAST TO THE WEST BECOMES A VERY
IMPORTANT TIME.
IT ALLOWS THEM TO DEFINE
THEMSELVES.

She continues reading as images of everyday life in India appear.

She says SHE WAS BORN A DAUGHTER... AND
GREW IN UP A MARBLE MANSION SO
OLD AND FAMOUS THAT-- THAT
PASSER'S BY POINTED IT OUT TO
EACH OTHER.
LOOK, THAT ONE.
HER MARRIAGE WAS WRITTEN UP IN
THE SOCIAL REGISTER... NOW
ALONE IN A DIM APARTMENT FULL
OF BROKEN GLASS, SHE WAS TO USE
THE LAST OF HER WILL POWER TO
LIFT THE RECEIVER.
A SLEEPY VOICE MUMBLE SOMETHING
AT THE OTHER END.
SHE STIFFENS, AND ALL HER
MUSCLES READY TO APOLOGIZE.
TO HANG UP.
THIS IS ME, SHE SAYS.
I'M IN A LOT OF TROUBLE.
I NEED HELP.

Chitra says STORIES ARE SO CENTRAL, I
THINK, THAT-- THAT HAS BEEN ONE
OF THE THINGS THAT I'VE BEEN
THINKING ABOUT A TIME.
AND-- AND TRULY MY GRANDFATHER
WAS ONE OF MY EARLIEST AND MOST
VALUABLE AND MOST DEAR
EXPERIENCES WHERE HE WAS THE
GREAT STORY TELLER IN MY LIFE.
AND HE TOLD ME ALL OF THESE
STORIES OUT OF OUR MYTHS, OUR
OLD INDIAN FOLKTALES AND THEY
JUST CAME INTO ME.
THEY WERE WOVEN INTO MY LIFE
AND MY VISION OF THE WORLD AND
I THINK THEY REALLY ADDED A LOT
TO ME AND I WAS AWARE, ALTHOUGH
NOT IN A CONSCIOUS MANNER, OF
THE WAY IN WHICH STORIES HELP
US UNDERSTAND OURSELVES, OUR
WORLD, OUR ROLE IN OUR WORLD.
MANY TIMES WHEN WE HAVE
SITUATIONS OF SORROW AND PAIN,
OUR STORIES REALLY HELP TO HEAL
US AND SO WRITING FOR ME WAS A
MEANS OF EXPLORING, OF COME TO
GO UNDERSTAND THE DYNAMICS OF A
COMMUNITY-- THINGS THAT CHANGED
SO MUCH.
WHAT ARE WE GAINING.
WHAT ARE WE LOSING?
WHAT DOES IT CHANGE BETWEEN THE
GENERATIONS?
AND I WANTED TO PRESERVE THAT--
THAT FOR MYSELF?
AS WELL AS MY MEMORIES OF
INDIA.
BECAUSE I REALLY FELT LIKE I
WAS LOSING, UM, A PART OF
MYSELF AS I KEPT LIVING IN
NORTH AMERICA.
THAT-- THAT I WAS FOR GETTING,
AND WRITING WAS-- WAS A GOD WAY
FOR ME TO-- TO REMEMBER, RE
EXPLORE, REINVENT, THAT-- THAT
PAST AS WELL.
BUT ONE OF MY GREAT HOPES WITH
MY WRITING IS THAT JUST AS
PEOPLE IN MY CULTURE WILL READ
IT AND HOPEFULLY SEE THEMSELVES
IN IT, RECOGNIZE THINGS ABOUT
THEMSELVES, IT WILL BE A
PROCESS OF DISCOVERY FOR PEOPLE
OUTSIDE OF MY CULTURE.
AND IT WILL BE A WAY FOR THEM
TO UNDERSTAND, UM, NOT JUST THE
SPECIFICATION OF THE INDIAN
CULTURE, BUT ALSO THE COMMON
THINGS THAT WE SHARE AS HUMAN
BEINGS.
BECAUSE I DO BELIEVE THAT--
THAT IS ONE OF THE GREAT THINGS
THAT LITERATURE CAN DO.
AS A RATHER, I FELT THAT
MYSELF.
THAT YOU COME TO UNDERSTAND A
DIFFERENT CULTURE.
AND THEN YOU COME TO SEE-- SEE
THAT WE'RE NOT SO DIFFERENT AS
HUMAN BEINGS.

Tina says "THE VINE OF DESIRE
" BY DIVAKARUNI IS PUBLISHED
BY DOUBLE DAY. TO ISRAEL NOW AND
A FILM MAKER AND AUTHOR WHO'S
BEEN DUBBED THAT COUNTRY'S
HIPPEST YOUNG WRITER.
HIS NAME IS KERET.
HE WRITES ABOUT LIFE IN
EVERYDAY ISRAEL, A TUMULTUOUS,
OFTEN VIOLENT PLACE.
BUT EVEN THOUGH THAT IS THERE,
HE NEVER LOSES HIS HUMOUR.
I MET HIM WHEN HE WAS IN
TORONTO FOR THE FESTIVAL OF
AUTHORS.

A clip shows Tina interviewing Etgar in a bar.

She says ON THE BACK IT SAYS THESE ARE
WARPED AND WONDERFUL STORIES
FROM ISRAEL'S HIPPEST YOUNG
WRITER.
SO I WON'T ASK YOU ABOUT BEING
HIP, BECAUSE I'M SURE YOU ARE.
BUT I WANT TO KNOW ABOUT YOUR
WARPED STORIES.
DO YOU THINK THEY'RE WARPED?

The caption changes to "Etgar Keret. Israeli Author."

He says I DON'T THINK THEY'RE
WARPED.
I THINK THAT-- I WOULD ATTEMPT
TO DESCRIBE THEM AS LIFE-- YOU
KNOW?
SOME PEOPLE WOULD SAY, OH, WOW,
YOU KNOW, THOSE CHARACTERS,
THEY'RE SO PERVERSE AND SAY,
HEY, THAT'S MY MOM.
DOAN TALK ABOUT THIS-- DON'T
TALK LIKE THIS ABOUT MY MOM.
BUT THIS IS HOW I SEE THING.
MAYBE SOMETIMES THOSE THINGS
THAT LOOK A BIT MORE GROTESQUE
BECAUSE THEY'RE EFFECTED BY
THE-- BY THE-- BY MY FEARS, YOU
KNOW?
WHEN I-- LIKE, I'M AFRAID OF
SOMETHING, SO-- SO IT MAY LOOK
LIKE THIS AND BIGGER AND
STRANGER.

Tina says UM, YOUR STORIES ARE
ABOUT, UM, ALTHOUGH THEY ARE IN
SOME WAYS, UM, SURREAL, THEY'RE
ABOUT THINGS THAT HAPPEN TO US
IN EVERYDAY LIFE BUT ALL OF
THIS GOES ON IN A BACKGROUND
WHERE THERE'S AN UNDERLINED
TENSION OF LIVING IN A COUNTRY,
ISRAEL, THAT'S IN A PERPETUAL
STATE OF ALERT, WHERE NOTHING
IS TAKEN FOR GRANTED.
HOW DO YOU THINK THAT SHOWS
ITSELF IN YOUR STORIES?

Etgar says OH, IT-- YOU KNOW, IT-- IT'S
FUNNY BECAUSE, UM, BECAUSE WHEN
MY BOOK CAME OUT IN GERMANY,
THE-- SOMEBODY WROTE A
CRITICISM ABOUT IT AND HE SAID
THAT HE REALLY LIKED THE FACT
THAT THERE WAS SO MANY THINGS
THAT, UM, ABOUT, UM, ABOUT
FANTASTICAL THINGS AND
EXAGGERATED THING AND HE MADE A
LIST OF THOSE THINGS AND AMONG
THOSE THINGS, HE SAID THAT
PEOPLE, UM, TRAVEL IN PUBLIC
TRANSPORTATION AND AROUND THE
STREETS CARRYING WEAPONS.
UM, PEOPLE ARE VERY STRESSED
AND LISTEN TO THE NEWS EVERY
HOUR.
AND THIS WAS VERY-- VERY HARD
FOR ME TO SEE THOSE FANTASTICAL
ELEMENTS MIXED WITH THINGS THAT
ARE JUST-- BECAUSE EVERYBODY
LISTENS TO THE NEWS EVERY HOUR
TO SEE IF THERE'S A TERRORIST
BOMBING AND MOST OF THE PEOPLE
GO WITH WEAPONS SO MUCH I'M--
I'M SAYING THAT THIS-- I GUESS
WHEN YOU HAVE PERSPECTIVE, I
LIVE IN A CITY THAT'S SO
EXTREME AND CRAZY THAT-- THAT,
UM, THAT YOU DON'T HAVE TO, UM,
TO BE GROTESQUE.
YOU CAN JUST WRITE ALL OF THESE
THINGS STRAIGHT AND IT SEEMS
LIKE A METAPHOR OR, UM, OR--

Tina says IF YOU WRITE A-- WRITE
ABOUT A BUS DRIVER THAT WANTS
TO BE-- TO BE GOD, YOU'RE
SAYING SOMETHING LARGER REALLY
ABOUT THE SOCIETY TOO?

Etgar says WELL IT, HAS TO DO WITH THE
FACT THAT I LIVE IN A SOCIETY
THAT'S VERY, VERY IDEOOLOGICAL.
ISRAEL WAS FORM, UM, THE THINGS
PEOPLE HAD IN COMMON WAS AN
IDEOLOGICAL IDEA.
CAME FROM DIFFERENT COUNTRIES
AND BACKGROUND AND LANGUAGES.
PEOPLE ARE VERY OPINIONATED,
UM, AND THEY KNOW THAT-- THAT
THEY'RE RIGHT FROM WRONG.
NOBODY'S GOING TO TELL THEM
DIFFERENTLY.
AND SOMETIMES BECAUSE, YOU
KNOW, BECAUSE YOU HAVE THIS
FEELING THAT SOCIETY IS UNDER
ATTACK.
SOME SORT OF DISCOURSE IS LEFT
OUT.
LIKE, I WANT-- ONCE WHEN I DID
MY FIRST FILM, SOMEBODY WROTE
ABOUT IT, THIS STUFF ISN'T
FUNNY.
ESPECIALLY NOT IN A COUNTRY
LIKE OURS AND I THINK THAT--
THAT IT'S THE OPPOSITE BECAUSE
I THINK WHEN YOU-- WHEN YOU
LIVE IN SOME SORT OF TENSION,
UM, ALL THE QUESTIONS SHOULD BE
ASKED, YOU KNOW?
IT'S LIKE AN EXISTENTIALIST POSITION.
I LIVE HERE, MAY BE I MAY DIE
HERE TOMORROW IN SOME BOMBING
SO I MIGHT AS WELL KNOW WHY I'M
HERE, WHAT AM I DOING.
WHAT ARE MY RIGHTS AND WRONGS?
AND BE OPEN FOR CHANGES?

Tina says THIS BUSINESS THOUGH,
UM, ABOUT WRITERS AND ARTISTS
IN ISRAEL, I THINK THAT PEOPLE
HAVE SAID ABOUT YOU THAT YOU'RE
NOT POLITICALLY ENGAGED ENOUGH.
THAT IF YOU ARE A WRITER IN
ISRAEL, UM, THAT YOU NEED TO--
TO, YOU KNOW, NEED TO BE
ON-SIDE AND BE POLITICAL.
WHAT DO YOU THINK OF THAT?

Etgar says I THINK THAT-- THAT MY
POLITICAL BE STAND IS APPARENT
FROM MY STORIES.
YOU KNOW?
IF YOU READ MY STORIES.
THE BEST SAY TO PEOPLE, UM,
LISTENING TO OTHER PEOPLE, IN
FACT, BE A NICE HUMAN BEING,
YOU KNOW?
BUT I DON'T THINK I CAN SAY TO
PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, VOTE FOR THIS
PARTY.
DO THIS AND DO THAT.
AND THIS IS TOO BIG FOR ME.
I STARTED WRITING BECAUSE I
COULDN'T HANDLE THAT.
I DON'T THINK THAT I'M IN A
POSITION TO TELL PEOPLE WHAT TO
DO.

Tina says UH-HUH.
YOUR STORIES ALSO IN THIS
COLLECTION, QUITE A FEW OF THEM
TALK ABOUT SUICIDE.
THIS-- THE YOUTH.
ONE OF THE STORIES, YOU KNOW,
UM, THAT-- THAT THESE, UM,
THESE YOUNG KIDS WHO HAVE
COMMITTED SUICIDE GO AND HAVE--
THEY GO TO ANOTHER PLACE WHERE
THEY HAVE A PARALLEL LIFE WHICH
IS A LOT LIKE EARTH, ACTUALLY.
BUT WHAT'S YOUR ATTRACTION TO,
UM, ATTRACTION MAY BE THE WRONG
WORD, BUT WHAT INTERESTS YOU
ABOUT, UM, ABOUT YOUNG
SUICIDES?

Etgar says MOST OF THE STORIES THAT--
THAT, IT IS, UM, SOMETIME A
METAPHOR, BUT JUST-- IT DEALS
WITH LIFE AS A CHOICE.
UM, I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, I
LIKE TO SEE, UM, MY WRITING,
UM, VERY, VERY, UM, VERY
OPTIMISTIC ONE.
IT'S LIKE, IT COULD BE VERY,
VERY SAD.
UM, BUT IT--

Tina says AND I SHOULD SAY THE
BOOK'S VERY FUNNY.
WE'RE MAKING IT TOWN LIKE IT'S
VERY, VERY DOOM.
BUT IT'S VERY FUNNY, YOUR BOOK.
IT'S--

Etgar says MY BOOKS ARE-- ATTRACT TODAY
YOUTH PEOPLE-- WHY I LIKE THAT.
YOU KNOW, I SEE EVERY SHORT
STORY AS A COMMERCIAL FOR LIFE.
LIKE, YOU KNOW, LIKE, LIFE, YOU
SHOULD TRY IT SOMETIME.
YOU KNOW?
AND LIVING, YOU SHOULD TRY IT
SOMETIME, YOU KNOW?
AND IN THIS SENSE, IN THIS
SENSE, A GOOD WAY TO TACKLE
THIS QUESTION OF LIFE AND-- AND
WHAT DO WE HAVE HERE?
WHAT DO YOU-- DO WE WANT FROM
LIFE.
IT WOULD BE VERY, VERY, MY
FEELINGS-- BY DEALING WITH LIVE
AND ESPECIALLY SUICIDE.

Tina says REALLY?
SO YOU-- WHEN YOU SAY
COMMERCIAL FOR LIFE, YOU'RE NOT
BEING FUNNY.
YOU'RE SAYING ADS, LIFE, TRY IT
SOMETIME.
I LOVE THAT.
LIFE, YOU SHOULD TRY IT.
IT'S BEEN A-- IT'S BEEN A
PLEASURE TO MEET YOU.
YOUR STORIES ARE LOVELY.

Etgar says THANK YOU.

Tina says "THE BUS DRIVER WHO
WANTED TO BE GOD AND OTHER
OTHERS" IS ETGAR KERET'S FIRST
BOOK TO BE PUBLISHED INTO
ENGLISH.
THAT'S IT FOR "IMPRINT'S" TRIP
AROUND THE WORLD.
JUST ONE LAST STOP, HERE'S A
WORD FROM ALLEN ABEL.
THANKS FOR COMING HERE.

Now on an animated slate, a clip shows Allen Abel talking. He’s in his fifties, clean-shaven and with short gray hair.

A caption reads "Allen Able. Abel’s back."

He says THERE'S A CLICHE IN TRAVEL
WRITING.
THAT TRAVEL WRITING, YOU GO
ONCE ON THE PHYSICAL JOURNEY
AND THEN YOU HAVE THE CHOICE,
OR THE OPTION OF HOW YOU WANT
TO TRAVEL TO AT THAT PLACE
AGAIN.
YOU CAN SEE THE BEST IN IT, SEE
THE WORST IN IT.
YOU CAN BE LIKE-- BE IN THE
SOUTH PACIFIC AND ENGLAND AND
HATE EVERY SECOND OF IT OR
BEING IN SOUTH AMERICA AND
LOVING EVERY MINUTE OF IT.
IF TRAVEL WRITING IS A JOURNEY
TWICE TAKEN THEN THE BEST PART
IS IN BETWEEN THE TWO JOURNEYS,
WHEN YOU CAN TAKE WHAT YOU WANT
FROM IT.

Theme music plays as the end credits roll.

Special thanks, International festival of Authors. Fez Batik. Frida Craft Stores. Maharani Fashions. Sher-E Punjab.

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