Transcript: Italian Cooking, Conservative Race, Movies (Oscars) | Mar 22, 2002

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A title appears inside the shape of a house: More to Life. Words spin against a red and orange background: Health, Family, Home, Money, Fitness, Life. Fast clips show images related to the previous conc epts, such as a dollar bill, a wheat field, and strands of DNA.

In animation, the title appears inside the shape of a house: "More to life."

Then, Mary Ito sits in a studio with textured yellow walls and a door in the background.

Mary is in her late thirties, with short black hair and bangs. She's wearing a black sweater.

Mary says HELLO. I'M MARY ITO. WELCOME TO MORE TO LIFE. TODAY ON THE SHOW WE LOOK AT THE TWO BIG RACES OF THE WEEKEND. THE ONE FOR OSCAR GOLD AND ALSO THE KEY TO POLITICAL POWER IN ONTARIO. THAT IS LATER ON. FIRST, ITS ALWAYS A WINNER ON THE FOOD FRONT, ITALIAN FOOD. WE LOVE PASTA, PIZZA. MY NEXT GUEST BE BELIEVES THE INGREDIENTS MAKE ALL THE DIFFERENCE. LINO COLLVECCHIO IS THE CHEF OF VIA ALLEGRO RISTORANTE IN TORONTO. HE IS GOING TO REVEAL THE BEST IN ITALIAN COOKING TODAY.

Lino sits with Mary at a table containing a huge wheel of cheese.
Lino is in his early thirties, clean-shaven, with short brown hair. He's wearing an orange sweater.

Mary continues WHEN IT COMES TO OLIVE OIL, CHEESES, WHAT ARE THE BEST? WE WILL GET THE ANSWERS. WE WANT YOU TO CALL IN WITH YOUR QUESTIONS.

A caption reads "416-484-2727. 1-888-411-1234."
Then, it changes to "moretolife@tvo.org"

Mary says THANKS FOR COMING.

Lino says THANK YOU M.

Mary says ITS A FUNNY THING, I FIND, BEING MARRIED INTO AN ITALIAN FAMILY, THESE DISCUSSIONS OF FOOD CAN GO ON FOR A LENGTHY PERIOD. THEY EVEN SOMETIMES TURN INTO ARGUMENTS. A BIG DEBATE ABOUT, NO, THIS IS THE BEST, NO THAT IS THE BEST.

Lino says YEP. I HEAR IT EVERY DAY.

Mary says I'M CURIOUS, WE HAVE ALL KINDS OF FOODS THAT YOU BROUGHT IN TODAY. HOW DID YOU YOURSELF COME UP WITH THIS LIST OF BEST FOODS?

The caption changes to "Lino Collevecchio. 'Via Allegro Ristorante.'"

Lino says WHEN YOU THINK OF ITALY, YOU THINK OF ALL THE TREMENDOUS FOODS. THESE ARE REALLY INGREDIENTS THAT ARE IMPORTANT FOR GREAT ITALIAN FOOD. THEY HAVE SUCH A LONG HISTORY, EACH ONE OF THEM. WE WANT TO DEMISTY FI THE THOUGHTS TODAY.

Mary says THE FIRST, PARMESAN, NOW IF YOU SAY THIS IS THE BEST KIND OF PARMESAN, AM I GOING TO GET A SLU OF ITALIAN PEOPLE CALLING UP, SAYING, NO, ITS NOT. IS THIS GENERALLY AGREED UPON?

Lino says ITS SOMETHING THAT IS GENERALLY AGREED UPON. YOU MAY HAVE DIFFERENT REGIONS OF ITALY SAYING WE MAKE A SIMILAR CHEESE. BUT ITS PROTECTED BY THE LAWS OF ORIGIN, WHICH GORCHBTS THE PRODUCTION OF THE CHEESE.

Mary says THERE ARE CHEESE LAWS IN ITALY?

Lino says ABSOLUTELY.

Mary says TELL ME ABOUT THIS.

Lino says IN THE PRODUCTION OF THIS CHEESE, THERE ARE LAWS WHICH GOVERN THE TYPE OF FOOD THE COW EATS, THE TYPE OF COW THAT NEEDS TO BE USED, THE AMOUNT OF MILK THAT NEEDS TO BE USED, HOW ITS PRODUCED. AI THAT'S ALL HAVE TO ADHERE TO THE REGULATIONS. WHAT HAPPENS IS DURING THE CHEESE-MAKING PROCESS, ONCE THE CURDS ARE SEPARATED FROM THE WAI, THEY ARE PUT INTO A MOLD,. IN THE MOLD ARE THESE PIN DOTS. THAT IS THE TRADEMARK OF EXCELLENCE. THAT GIVE IT IS CONSUMER THE TRADEMARK THAT HE OR SHE NEEDS TO KNOW WHEN BUYING GOOD CHEESE. THERE IS A STAMP HERE FROM THE GROUP WHICH GOVERNS THE ACTUAL MAKING OF THE CHEESE. ONCE YOU SEE THAT STAMP, WHEN YOU SEE THE PIN DOTS, THAT TELLS YOU THAT ITS THE REAL MC COY.

Mary says OH, OKAY. IS THAT THE D O C STAMP?

Lino says D O P.

Mary says OH, D O P.

Lino says THAT GOVERNS HOW THE CHEESE IS MADE. MUCH THE SAME WAY THEY WOULD WITH BRANDY. OR WITH OLIVE OILS.

Mary says OKAY. WHAT WAS REGGIAN O REFER TO? IS THAT A PLACE? IS THAT THE KIND OF CHEESE?

Lino says ITS THE ORIGIN PLACE. YEAH, YEAH.

Mary says OKAY. RIGHT. WHY IS THIS CHEESE SO GREAT? OTHER THAN THE SMELL. WHEN EVERYBODY WALKED IN WE WERE HIT BY A WALL OF IT 6789.

[LAUGHTER]

Lino says DID YOU KNOW IT TAKES 20 LITTERS OF MILK TO PRODUCE ONEKY LO OF PARMESAN CHEESE?

Mary says 20 LITTERS OF MILK. OKAY.

Lino says IT UNDER GOES A TWO-YEAR AGING PROCESS, WHICH IS A LONG TIME. ITS THE LONGEST TIME FOR CHEESE. IF YOU TOUCH THE CHEESE, IT HAS A HARD HARD RIN.

Mary says THIS IS ONE BIG HUNK OF CHEESE.

Lino says 85 POUNDS.

Mary says OKAY. I CAN'T DO A CONVERSION. THAT IS A LOT OF MILK.

Lino says ITS ALMOST 600 LITTERS OF MILK.

Mary says OKAY. NOW.

Lino says 160 GALLONS. A LOT OF MILK. OVER THE TWO YEARS, ITS AGED FOR TWO YEARS, THERE IS YOUNGER, OLDER. ITS AGED FOR TWO YEARS. AS IT GETS OLDER, THERE IS MILK PROTEINS WHICH BREAKDOWN. THEY FORM A MY NO ACIDS WHICH CRYSTALLIZE AND GIVE THE CHEESE THE GRAIN FEELING. PETS WHAT MAKES IT GREAT. AS IT GETS OLDER, IT BECOMES MORE OF A GRATING CHEESE. OVERPASS TA. AS ITS YOUNGER, GENERALLY ITS A TABLE CHEESE.
BEFORE TWO YEARS ITS A TABLE CHEESE. AFTER TWO YEARS, ITS HARDER, STILL ENJOYABLE. THE PROTEINS BREAKDOWN MORE AND MORE AND MORE. AS IT BREAKS DOWN, IT BECOMES NUTRITIOUS. ITS VERY EASILY DIGESTED. IT IS THE MOST WIDELY PRESCRIBED FOOD STUFF IN ITALY BY DOCTORS?

Mary says WHY?

Lino says BECAUSE ALL THE MILK PROTEINS HAVE BEEN BROKEN DOWN. ITS EASY TO DIGEST. ITS A QUICK SOURCE OF ENERGY. A LOT OF ATHLETES USE IT IN ITALY. ITS SPRINKLED ON CEREAL FOR CHILDREN.

Mary says ALL PURPOSE?

Lino says ALL PURPOSE.

Mary says WOW. I WANT TO REMIND OUR LISTENERS, WE ARE TALKING ABOUT ITALIAN COOK TO GO DAY. WE WILL TALK ABOUT SOME OF THE ICONS OF ITALIAN COOKING, WHAT THE BEST IN EACH CATEGORY ARE. WHETHER ITS CHEESE, BALSAMIC VINEGARS, IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. GIVE US A CALL.

The phone numbers and email reappear briefly.

Mary says I HAVE A CALL ON THE LINE FROM TORONTO.

The Caller says I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT BALSAMIC VINEGAR. WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN PRESIDENT'S CHOICE AND THE ONE'S AT THE DELI YOU I 6.

Lino says GOOD QUESTION. THE STORE-BOUGHT ARE BALSAMICS THAT ARE INDUSTRIAL.

Mary says LET'S MOVE THIS AND BRING THIS UP. YOU HAVE A BUNCH HERE.

Lino says GOOD IDEA. 85 POUND.

Lino moves the huge wheel of cheese away.

Mary says DON'T BREAK YOUR BACK. DO YOU MOVE THAT AROUND AT THE RESTAURANT?

Lino says TRY NOT TO.

[LAUGHTER]

Mary says HERE WE GO.

Mary places several bottles of a dark liquid on the table.

Lino says GOING BACK TO THE QUESTION, ON THE GROCERY SHELF YOU WILL SEE BALSAMICS RANGING FROM TWO TO THREE DOLLARS, ALL THE WAY UP TO 2 AND 300 dollars. THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN GOOD BALSAMIC AND INDUSTRIAL BALSAMIC IS INDUSTRIAL BALSAMIC IS RED WINE VINEGAR WITH FLAVORINGS ADDED. NOTHING TO DO WITH TRUE BALSAMIC. IT DOESN'T GIVE THIS JUSTICE. VINEGAR IS SOUR WINE. THIS IS HARDLY SOUR WINE. THIS IS MORE OF A CONDIMENT USED AT THE END OF THE COOKING PROCESS. DEPENDING ON THE AGE, THERE ARE GENERALLY TWO BALSAMICS THAT ARE RECOGNIZED BY A GROUP THAT GOVERNS THE BALSAMICS.

Mary says I WAS GIVEN A GIFT OF BALSAMIC VALENTINE GAR. YOU KNOW WHAT? IT LOOKS LIKE THIS. ITS IN THIS BOX.

She points at a box containing a small bottle of balsamic vinegar.

[LAUGHTER]

Lino says YOU ARE FORTUNATE.

Mary says AM I LUCKY?

Lino says ABSOLUTELY. THESE PARTICULAR TWO, THIS IS A... THE ONE ON THE LEFT IS SA 12-YEAR-OLD AND IT HAS TO BE AGED AT LEAST 12 YEARS. NOW THE WAY THIS IS MADE, ITS MADE FROM GRAPE MUST BOILED TO ONE-THIRD OF ITS VOLUME, TRANSFERRED INTO WOODEN CAST KS. ITS THEN LATER MOVED. SO WE MAY START WITH JUNE PER WOOD, THEN OAK, THEN ASH.

Mary says SOUNDS LIKE WINE MAKING. SO CAREFULLY DONE.

Lino says ALL OF THESE PRODUCTS ARE HAND CRAFTED, WHICH MAKE THEM SO GREAT. THESE ARE AGED FOR 12 YEARS. THIS IS SOMETHING THAT SHOULD BE SAFERED IN ONE'S LIFETIME. THIS IS A 25-YEAR-OLD.

Mary says 25 YEARS.

Lino says YES. WHICH IN BALSAMIC TIME IS NOT A LOT. THERE ARE BALSAMICS THAT ARE A HUNDRED YEARS OLD. AS THEY AGE IN THE BARREL, IT REDUCES, CONCENTRATES THE CONDIMENT WITHIN THE BARREL. IT TAKES ALL THESE FLAVORS. SO IT HAS LAYERS OF FRUIT, OF WOOD.

Mary says ITS SO TRUE. YOU TALK ABOUT THE BALSAMIC VINEGAR THAT IS MORE OF A RED WINE. THAT TASTE IT'S LIKE VINEGAR. BUT WHEN I TRIED THIS FOR THE FIRST TIME, I COULDN'T GET OVER THE SWEETNESS OF IT.

Lino says IT IS SWEET.

Mary says YEAH.

Lino says IT IS SWEET. ITS SWEET BECAUSE OF THE MATURE aging PROCESS. IT HAS PORT-LIKE SMELLS. PORT WINE LIKE. STEWED PRUNES. IT SHOULD BE LIKE MAPLE SYRUP THICKNESS WHEN YOU POUR IT. IT SHOULD HAVE A BRIGHT BROWN SHINY APPEARANCE. THE A RO MA IS PUN GHENT. THE TASTE SHOULD BE SWEET AND SOUR. NOT ACIDIC.

Mary says VERY SMOOTH. SO FOR INSTANCE, THIS IS 12 YEARS OLD. HOW MUCH IS THIS?

Lino says DEPENDING ON WHERE YOU BUY FROM, YOU ARE LOOKING MAYBE AT 80 DOLLARS FOR 100 MIL.

Mary says OKAY. NO WONDER THE PERSON WHO GAVE IT TO ME SAID YOU CAN USE THIS WITH A EYE DROPPER. DON'T SPILL ANY.

Lino says THERE YOU GO.

Mary says I THOUGHT HE WAS JOKING.

Lino says NO. THIS IS BEST ENJOYED WITH DESERT.

Mary says YES. HE SAID OVER ICE CREAM.

Lino says YES.

Mary says IS THAT IN ITALY?

Lino says THEY DO THAT IN ITALY. ITS ALSO A DIGESTIVE. YOU SIP FROM A THEMABLE.

Mary says ABSOLUTELY.

Lino says AT THE END OF THE MEAL TO HELP digest. IN OLD DAYS, OLIVE OIL, BALSAMIC USE AS PHARMACEUTICALS, AS MEDICINE. OLIVE OIL WAS USED TO RELAX THE MUSCLES. IT WAS ENJOYED BY THE ROMANS. SO THEY HAVE PHARMACEUTICAL VALUES.

Mary says NOW, FOR THE TOP OF THE LINE, THIS ONE THAT IS 25 YEARS OLD. HOW WOULD THIS ONE COST?

Lino says RETAIL PROBABLY A COUPLE HUNDRED DOLLARS.

Mary says COUPLE OF HUNDRED DOLLARS.

Lino says YEAH.

Mary says FOR OUR PURPOSES IN THE KITCHEN, MAYBE WE DON'T WANT TO GO FOR THE THREE DOLLAR ONE BUT WHAT IS A REASONABLE AMOUNT OF MONEY TO PAY AND GET A PRETTY GOOD QUALITY BALSAMIC VINEGAR?

Lino says PROBABLY PURCHASE FOR SAY 15 TO 20 DOLLARS. IT HAS A LITTLE AGE ON IT. YOU NEED A LITTLE AGING.

Mary says WOULD IT SAY ON THE BOTTLE HOW MUCH AGING?

Lino says GENERALLY NOT. LABELING IS UNCLEAR, UNFORTUNATELY.

Mary says WHAT DO YOU GO BY?

Lino says BUYER BEWARE.

Mary says YOU HAVE TO KNOW YOUR BRANDS?

Lino says YEAH. THIS IS ANOTHER ONE WHICH IS FROM MODENA. ITS GENERALLY FOUR OR FIVE YEARS AGE ON IT. IT BECOMES MORE SWEETER.

Mary says IF IT IS FROM THERE, IS THAT TRUST WORTHY?

Lino says THEY ARE MOSTLY FROM THERE. IF IT HAS AN EXPENSIVE PRICE TAG, GENERALLY ITS GOOD.

Mary says OKAY. SO THAT IS A ACCURATE I SAID KAY TORE.

Lino says YEAH. YOU HAVE TO TRY A BUNCH OF DIFFERENT TYPES.

Mary says LET'S TAKE SOME CALLS. WE HAVE A QUESTION.

The Caller says HOW ARE YOU?

Mary says FINE THANK YOU. GO AHEAD.

The Caller says GOOD. YES. I MET YOU BEFORE. YOU RAN A RESTAURANT IN BURLINGTON.

Lino says RIGHT.

The Caller says AND I HAD A NICE risotto WITH MUSHROOMS.

Lino says YES?

The Caller says ANY CHANCE I CAN GET THE RECIPE?

Mary says DO YOU GIVE RECIPE?

Lino says WE GIVE BACK TO THE CUSTOMERS. WE HAVE TO GIVE BACK. ITS A GREAT FOOD. ITS A WONDERFUL MEAL.

Mary says WE WILL GET INTO THAT BUT TELL US ABOUT MUSHROOMS.

Lino says TREMENDOUS. ITS A WOODS MUSHROOM FROM ITALY. VERY WILD IN FLAVOR. EXPENSIVE. BEST ENJOYED IN RIS O T O. MAKES A GREAT SOUP, GREAT WITH EGGS.

Mary says OKAY. FOR THE CALLER WHO IS LISTENING, WE WILL GIVE THE NUMBER OF THE RESTAURANT SO WE CAN KEEP YOU... REACH YOU THERE. LET'S BRING OVER THE RICE. YOU KNOW, I THINK A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO ARE NOT FAMILIAR WITH ITALIAN FOOD I THINK MANY PEOPLE WOULD NOT THINK OF ITALIANS AS BEING BIG RICE EATERS. ARE THEY?

Lino says ITALY IS EUROPE'S LARGEST PRODUCER OF RICE, WHICH A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T KNOW. REALLY THIS IS WHAT PASTA IS TO THE SOUTH. THEY EAT A LOT IN NORTHERN ITALY. WE HAVE THREE DIFFERENT TYPES WE HAVE BROUGHT TODAY. DEPENDING ON WHAT PART OF ITALY YOU COME FROM, THIS IS THE BEST.

Mary says THE BIG DEBATE.

Lino says YES. VERY REGIONAL. DEPENDING ON THE RECIPE, SOME ARE BETTER THAN OTHERS.

Mary says OKAY.

Lino says THEY TEND TO EAT THE SHORTER GRAIN.

He places three boxes of rice on the table.

Mary says WHICH ONE IS THAT ONE?
Oh, RIGHT HERE. SNDZ SHA IS VENICE.

Lino says THAT IS MY PREFERED CHOICE. I LIKE IT BECAUSE ITS A SHORT GRAIN. A LOT OF PEOPLE SAY, WELL, WHY DON'T YOU LIKE THE LONG GRAIN? I LIKE THE SHORT GRAIN BECAUSE ITS PACKED WITH STARCH. TO MAKE A CREAMY RECIPE, YOU NEED ARISE WITH A LOT OF STARCH IN IT. BECAUSE IT FORMS THE SAUCE. YEAH.

Mary says OKAY. YOU ARE NOT FROM THE REGION?

Lino says I WORKED IN THE REGION.

Mary says I WANT TO SEE IF THERE IS BIAS.

Lino says NO, NO, NO. ABSOLUTELY NOT.

[LAUGHTER]

Lino says THIS RICE IS GOOD. ITS AN ALL-PURPOSE TYPE. GOOD STAR P CONTENT. THIS IS VERY LONG GRAIN, ALSO GOOD. THE STARCH CONTENT ISN'T LIKE THIS ONE.

Mary says OKAY. NOW, THESE RICES ARE SPECIFIC TO MAKING RISOTTO?

Lino says YES.

Mary says NOT LIKE YOU CAN USE ANY OTHER KIND?

Lino says ABSOLUTELY NOT. YOU DON'T WANT TO WASH THIS BECAUSE YOU NEED THE STARCH. YOU COOK THE STARCH INTO IT. SO YOU NEED AT THE TIME RIGHT RICE TO PREPARE IT.

Mary says A LOT OF PEOPLE THINK ITS A DIFFICULT DISH TO MAKE. MAYBE NOT FOR YOU. FOR THE AVERAGE COOK.

Lino says WELL, YOU KNOW WHAT, AS LONG AS YOU START WITH GOOD INGREDIENTS AND FOLLOW THE RECIPE AND HOW TO PREPARE THEM, YOU CAN'T GO WRONG. DON'T LEAVE THE STOVE MUCH.

Mary says SO ITS NOT YOUR EXPERTISE

Lino says NO. A LITTLE CREATIVITY IS IMPORTANT IN THE KITCHEN BUT YOU CAN MAKE SIMPLE FOODS WITH THE BEST POSSIBLE INGREDIENTS. FOLLOW THE EASY STEPS. STIR CONSTANTLY. DON'T LEAVE THE STOVE. USE GOOD STOCK.

Mary says HOW LONG ARE YOU AT THE STOVE?

Lino says 18-20 MINUTE PROCESS TO ACHIEVE AL DENTE.

Mary says YOU WANT THAT?

Lino says YOU DON'T WANT MUSH RICE.

Mary says YES. SPEAKING O AL DENTE, I KNOW IT DEPENDS ON COOKING TIME IN THE WATER, DOESN'T IT DEPEND ON THE NOODLE?

Lino says IT DOES. IF THE NOODLE... THEY CAN TEND TO COOK BETTER. EGG PASTA, BECAUSE IT DOESN'T HAVE A LOT OF SEMINOLE YOU WANT TO BE CAREFUL. IT CAN'T TAKE EXTRA COOKING.

Mary says OKAY. SO REARE RUNNING OUT OF TIME SO LET'S TALK ABOUT OLIVE OILS. THERE MUST BE... I CAN'T IMAGINE HOW MANY DIFFERENT OLIVE OILS?

Lino says REGIONAL. I JUST BOUGHT A FEW.

Mary says OKAY. EXPLAIN FIRST OFF BECAUSE I HEAR THIS ALL THE TIME PEOPLE DON'T KNOW THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN VIRGIN AND EXTRA VIRGIN.

As he places several bottles of olive oil on the table, Lino says YEAH. EXTRA VIRGIN IS THE FIRST PRESSING OF THE OLIVES WHEN THEY ARE HARVESTED. THEY ARE PICKED, PUT INTO A MILL, GROUND. THE RUNNOFF OR JUICE FROM THE OLIVES IS THE FIRST PRESSING. THEN THERE IS LEFTOVER BITS OF SKIN AND PULP AND SIEGE, WHICH ARE BLENDED A SECOND TIME. OBVIOUSLY DOESN'T HAVE THE CHARACTERISTICS AS THE FIRST PRESSING BECAUSE EVERYTHING HAS BEEN PRESSED OUT AT THE BEGINNING. SO THAT IS SECOND PRESSING WITH LESSER FLAVOR, THE CHARACTERISTICS ARE NOT AS PRONOUNCED. EXTRA VIRGIN, WHAT CATEGORIZES IT IS THE AMOUNT OF ACID WITHIN THE OIL. IF ITS LESS THAN ONE PERCENT, ITS EXTRA VIRGIN.

Mary says OH.

Lino says SO THERE IS A LOT OF EXTRA VIRGIN OILS THAT HAVE LESS THAN ONE PERCENT. THEY ARE SIX DOLLARS. THESE ONES ARE 30 DOLLARS.

Mary says THEY ARE STILL ALL EXTRA VIRGIN?

Lino says YES.

Mary says WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE?

Lino says ESTATE GROWN, HANDS PICKED, SELECTED BERRIES, THESE ARE ALL IMPORTANT FACTORS.

Mary says WOW.

Lino says THEY PRESS THEM UNDER PROPER CONDITIONS.

Mary says THAT DOES MAKE A DIFFERENCE?

Lino says YES.

Mary says SO IF I TASTE THIS, ITS DEFINITELY GOING TO TASTE DIFFERENT THAN THIS?

Lino says THESE ARE ALL FROM DIFFERENT REGIONS OF ITALY. THIS ONE IS A CREAMY OIL, A LITTLE FRU TI.

Mary says OKAY.

Lino says SO THERE ARE SOME THAT A PEPPERED THAT LEAVE A BITE IN THE THROAT.

Mary says ARE WE TALKING NOT BEST BUT PREFERENCE?

Lino says ABSOLUTELY. THIS IS ALL ABOUT PREFERENCE.

Mary says OKAY. SO, WHAT ABOUT GETTING INTO THE MONEY ASPECT? I DON'T KNOW IF THAT IS A ROUGH INDICATOR OF THE QUALITY OF THE OLIVE OIL AT ALL? I DON'T KNOW.

Lino says GENERALLY IT HAS A LOT TO DO WITH IT, YES. WHEN YOU ARE BUYING GOOD OLIVE OIL, YOU GENERALLY BY IT... BUY IT TO FIT THE DISH.

Mary says OKAY.

Lino says ITS GREAT WITH BREAD, WONDERFUL BUT GENERALLY WENT YOU WORK WITH OLIVE OIL, YOU WANT TO MATCH IT UP WITH THE FOOD YOU ARE PREPARED PARRING. SO IF WE ARE DOING SOMETHING FROM DOWN SOUTH, YOU WOULD WANT AN OIL FROM THAT AREA THAT GOES WITH IT.

Mary says OH, I SEE.

Lino says SO YOU ARE HAVING PASTA WITH BAS ILL, YOU WOULD USE THEIR OIL.

Mary says WE COULD TALK AN HOUR ON THIS. LET'S MOVE ON HERE. YOU BROUGHT THIS AND I LOVE THIS. AGAIN, I SEE DIFFERENT PRICES FOR THIS. TELL US WHAT IS THE BEST.

Lino says I LIKE BRUSCHETTA PARMESAN BECAUSE THERE ARE LAWS THAT GOVERN IT, YOU HAVE TO FEED THE ANIMAL A CERTAIN WAY, FEED AWAY FROM THE LEFTOVER PRODUCTION. REALLY, ONE AREA OF ITALY, KNOT ITALY, THEY ARE FROM ITALY THAT ARE CONCENTRATED FROM WITHIN THAT AREA. I WISH I LIVED THERE.

Mary says THIS WOULD GO FOR HOW MUCH?

Lino says ABOUT 20 DOLLARS A KILO.

Mary says OKAY. YOU BROUGHT ANOTHER CHEESE. EXPLAIN THIS FOR ME.

Lino says THIS IS BUFFALO MISSOURI REL LA, WHICH IS... THERE ARE LAWS WHICH GOVERN THE M O ZE ERELLA. THIS IS MADE FROM THE MILK OF BUFFALO.

Mary says OKAY. WE ARE ALMOST OUT OF TIME. ITS NOT TO BE CONFUSED WITH THIS CHEESE.

Lino says NO. THZ MADE FROM BUFFALO MILK. AND THIS IS FROM SKIM COW MILK.

Mary says OKAY. THE BUFFALO MILK IS MORE EXPENSIVE?

Lino says MADE WITH GREAT INGREDIENTS.

Mary says WE ARE JUST OUT OF TIME BUT I AM GOING TO MENTION YOUR RESTAURANT HAS COOKING CLASSES AS WELL FOR PEOPLE WHO WANT TO GET MORE EDUCATED.

Lino says YEAH. WE DO THEM EVERY SATURDAY. ONCE A MONTH. FOOD AND WINE. ITS A GREAT THING TO ENJOY WHAT FOOD AND WINE IS ALL ABOUT.

Mary says ABSOLUTELY. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR ALL THE INFO. WE WILL HAVE YOU BACK.

Lino says ABSOLUTELY.

Mary says LINO COLLEVECCHIO IS THE CHEF OF VIA ALLEGRO RISTORANTE IN TORONTO.

A slate reads "Via Allegro Ristorante, 416-622-6677."

Mary says UP NEXT, WHO WILL FILL MIKE HARRIS' SHOES? STAY TUNED

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Back in the studio, Mary says WHAT DO YOU CALL A HUNDRED THOUSAND MEMBERS OF THE PROGRESS ZIVE? BOSS. THEY WILL DETERMINE THE FATE OF THE FIVE HOPEFULS AS THE RACE GETS UNDER WAY TOMORROW. I AM JOINED BY STEVE PAIKIN AND WE ARE GOING TO DO SOME PRE-GAME COLOR.

Steve is in his thirties, clean-shaven, with short curly brown hair. He's wearing a black zip-up sweater and a black shirt.

Mary continues LET'S START OFF WITH THE ODDS-ON FAVORITE.

Steve says YES. ERNIE EVES, FRONT RUNNER.

Mary says ALWAYS BEEN.

The caption changes to "Steve Paikin. 'Studio 2' Co-Host."

Steve says LEE LEFT PUB LIKE LIFE. HE IS MAKING A MILLION BUCKS ON BAY STREET. GREAT JOB. THERE CAME UP TO HIM AND SAID, ERNIE, WE HAVE DONE POLLING AND YOU ARE THE ONLY GUY WHO WITH WIN. YOU ARE THE ONLY GUY COMING OUT AHEAD. YOU HAVE TO COME OUT OF RETIREMENT AND RUN FOR US. HE IS IN, HE HAS BEEN THE FRONT RUNNER EVER SINCE.

Mary says HOW MUCH BAD FEELING WAS THERE IN THE PARTY THAT HE WOULD COME OUT AT THIS TIME RATHER THAN STAY IN?

Steve says FROM WHAT I HAVE BEEN ABLE TO TELL, NOT MUCH AT ALL. MANY PEOPLE ARE SAYING ITS A GOOD THING HE DECIDED TO COME BACK IN, AS EVIDENCED BY THE FACT THAT EVERY POLL HAS HIM IN FIRST PLACE WITH HALF THE SUPPORT OF THE PARTY NOW.

Mary says ALL RIGHT. IN THE PAST WE HAVE SEEN OTHER SO-CALLED SHOE-IN HIS. FRANCIS, GERRARD KENNEDY. TELL ME, WHAT IS AGAINST BEING A FAVORITE?

Steve says THE PROBLEM WITH BEING NUMBER ONE FROM THE THE GET-GO IS YOU ARE A TARGET FOR EVERYBODY ELSE. THAT HAS BEEN THE CASE HERE. ALL THE OTHERS HAVE BEEN TRYING TO KNOCK THE YOU KNOW WHAT OUT OF MR. EVES SINCE THE GET-GO. HE IS STILL NUMBER ONE, STILL GOT ALL THE SUPPORT, ALL THE MONEY, ALL THE LEAD. THEY HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO DO IT BUT FUNNY THINGS HAPPEN WHEN YOU VOTE.

Mary says THIS IS IT. FUNNY THINGS DO HAPPEN. I'M WONDERING HOW MUCH OF THE FUNNY THINGS CAN HAPPEN IN THIS FORM OF LEADERSHIP CONVENTION?

Steve says I GOT MY BOARD HERE. IS THIS A GOOD TIME.

Mary says YOU WANTED TO BE A TEACHER.

Steve picks up a whiteboard and a marker, and says I SAW THIS ON MEET THE PRESS AND THOUGHT IT WAS A HELL OF A IDEA.

Mary says THIS ONE. NO, NO. THIS ONE.

Steve says OKAY. THIS IS NOT A TYPICAL ONE PERSON CONVENTION LIKE THE ALLIANCE DID. THIS IS YES EVERY MEMBER GETS ONE VOTE BUT THEY VOTE BY WRITING. THERE ARE 103 WRITINGS IN ONTARIO. EVERY WRITING IS WORTH 100 POINTS. SO INES SENSE, THERE ARE 10 THOUSAND 300 POINTS UP FOR GRABS.

Steve says RIGHT.

Steve says DIVIDE THAT BY TWO, ADD ONE BECAUSE YOU NEED 50 percent PLUS ONE, THE WINNER HAS TO COLLECT 5151 TO WIN. THAT IS THE MAGIC NUMBER. HOW DO THEY GET POINTS? THEY GET POINTS ON THE BASES OF HOW MUCH SUPPORT THEY GET IN EACH OF THE 103 WRITINGS. SO, LET'S SAY WE ARE IN SAINT PAUL NOW. LET'S SAY THERE ARE 1,000 VOTERS, THERE AREN'T BUT JUST SAY. LET'S SAY ERNIE EVES GETS 700 VOTES. HOW MANY POINTS? THE ANSWER IS 700 OVER 1,000, 70.

Mary says OKAY.

Steve says SO HE GETS 70. THAT IS HOW THEY ADD THAT UP. LET'S SAY CHRIS STOCKWELL GETS, OKAY, 10 VOTES. 10 OUT OF A,000. 1 percent. ONE POINT. THAT IS HOW IT WORKS. YOU START COLLECTING WRITING BY WRITING BY WRITING. ITS LIKE 103 ELECTIONS, ACTUALLY, NOT ONE. WHO EVER GETS TO 5151 FIRST WINS. MOST PEOPLE THINK ERNIE EVES WILL GET THERE ON THE SECOND BALLOT. THAT IS HOW THEY DID IT WITH MIKE HARRIS, DIANE CUNNINGHAM. THIS IS A VERY... I DON'T KNOW ABOUT THIS, I BROUGHT PROPS TODAY.

Mary says I THOUGHT HEZ WERE WAR MEDALS.

As a close-up shot shows a button on Steve's sweater that reads "Drew for Leader", Steve says
THIS IS A BUTTON FROM A CONVENTION IN 1942 THAT PICKED GEORGE DREW AS THE LEADER ON THE CONSERVATIVE PARTY. SHE THE GODFATHER OF THE TORIES. HE WENT ON TO WIN, THE NEXT ELECTION, AND THE TORERIES RULED 42 STRAIGHT YEARS. THEY ARE BACK IN AGAIN WITH MA JORTS UNDER MIKE HARRIS. SO IN HIS DAY AND IN DAYS SUBSEQUENT TO THAT, YOU WENT OUT, HAD MEETINGS, WENT TO THE CONSHEN, ARM TWISTING AND THEY WON. NONE OF THAT THIS TIME.

Mary says ARE YOU SAD ABOUT THAT?

Steve says YES. ITS A TERRIBLE SYSTEM.

[LAUGHTER]

Mary says THAT WHOLE... THE OLD SYSTEM OF BALLOTS, ITS HAPPENED, I DON'T KNOW HOW OFTEN, WHERE YOU HAVE SOMEBODY WHO WAS THE LAST PLACE PERSON ON THE FIRST BALLOT AND THEY WON.

Steve says I DON'T KNOW ABOUT LAST BUT DELL TON WAS FOURTH ON THE SECOND BALLOT.

Mary says RIGHT.

Steve says GEORGE CLARKWELL WAS THIRD ON THE FIRST BALLOT AND HE WON. ITS A WONDERFUL SHOW. THE OTHER GOOD THING ABOUT THE OLD CONVENTION IS ALL THE PEOPLE COMING TO WHATEVER, THEY HAVE TO MAKE A CHOICE. THEY HAVE TO INTERACT. THEY CAN'T JUST GO, OH, I'M GOING HOME. WHICH COULD HAPPEN HERE.

Mary says THAT COULD CHANGE THINGS.

Steve says THE KEY IS YOU TO GET THE SUPPORTERS SIGNED UP, COMING OUT, STAY. THEY ARE GOING TO POLLING STATIONS ALL OVER. SOME PEOPLE HAVE TO DRIVE 45 MINUTES TO GO VOTE. NOW WHAT IF ITS NOT DECIDED AFTER ONE BALLOT? YOU CAN BET ORGANIZERS, THE KEY WILL BE DON'T LEAVE!

Mary says RIGHT. YEAH. OKAY. LET'S SAY ERNIE EVES DOES WIN. THERE ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO ARE NOT SURE WHAT HAPPENS. DOES HE BECOME PREMIERE?

Steve says TECHNICALLY HE DOES NOT BECOME PREMIER ON THE DAY HE WINS THE CONVENTION. AFTER HE WINS THE CONVENTION, HE, MIKE HARRIS AND THE LIEUTENANT GOVERNOR HAVE A MEETING. THEY DECIDE ON THE DATE WHICH MR. HARRIS WILL STEP DOWN AND THE WINNER WILL TAKE OVER. THE MINUTE WHOEVER WINS THE CONVENTION, THEY ARE CALLED THE INCOMING PREMIER. THE MINUTE THEY FINISH THAT LEADING, AND A DATE IS AGREED UPON, THEY BECOME THE PREMIER DESIGNATE. OF COURSE THE DATE THE PREMIERE AND THE NEW CABINET IS SWORN IN, THEN HE OR SHE IS PREMIER.

Mary says OKAY. YOU. YOU WERE TALKING SAYING EVERYBODY WAS GANGING UP ON ERNIE. HOW WOULD YOU DESCRIBE IS RACE SO FAR?

Steve says THE RACE WOULD HAVE BEEN MORE INTERESTING HAD MR. EVES NOT GOT IN. BECAUSE SINCE HE GOT IN, YOU HAVE HEARD THE GUY CAN SUCK THE OXYGEN OUT OF THE ROOM. HE HAS 34 OUT OF 50 MEMBERS SUPPORTING HIM. HE HAS LOTS OF MONEY. HE HAS LOTS OF MEMBERS. HE HAS HAD TERRIFIC ORGANIZATION. AS A RESULT, THE RACE HAS NOT BEEN WHAT YOU WOULD CALL CLOSE SO FAR.

Mary says WHAT ABOUT DIRTY?

Steve says DPIR DIRTY, ITS BEEN PLENTY. ITS BEEN A MUCH MORE PERSONAL RACE THAN I THINK PEOPLE EXPECTED OR WOULD LIKE TO HAVE SEEN.

Mary says ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT IN LIGHT OF WHAT HAPPENED A FEW DAYS AGO WITH TONY CLEMT?

Steve says I'M THINKING BACK IN 1985, THE LAST EXAMPLE OF A TIME WHEN A SITTING PREMIER RETIRED AND THEY HAD A CONVENTION REPLACING HIM, 17 YEARS AGO, BILL DAVIS LEFT. THE LAST THING HE SAID WAS YOU FOUR GUYS WHO WANT TO REPLACE ME, BEHAVE. DON'T DISAGREE WITH GOVERNMENT POLICY IN PUBLIC, DON'T TAKE CHEAP SHOTS, BEHAVE. THEY DID. IT WAS A LESS INTERESTING CONVENTION BUT I WAS IN THEORY LESS DIFFICULT FOR THE PARTY TO COME BACK TOGETHER. THIS TIME OUT, MR. HARRIS SAID LET THE IDEAS FLOW. AND THEY HAVE. SOME OF THESE FOLKS HAVE TAKEN IT TO HEART AND STARTED TO TAKE PERSONAL CHEAP SHOTS. WHICH HAS RAISED THE SAME QUESTIONS ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT THESE FOLKS CAN HOLD THEIR BUSINESS TOGETHER AFTER ITS OVER.

Mary says WHAT DO YOU THINK?

Steve says I WILL TELL YOU WHAT I THINK. WHEN I SEE THE WAY THEY TREAT EACH OTHER IN PUBLIC, IMAGINE WHAT THEIR PRIVATE MEETINGS WERE LIKE. MIKE HARRIS MUST HAVE RUN IT PARTY WITH A TIGHT GRASP. BEHIND CLOSED DOORSZ HE GOT THE PEOPLE TO BEHAVE. IN PUBLIC, THEY HAVEN'T.

Mary says ONE QUICK QUESTION, VOTING BEHAVIOR. I'M CURIOUS. I KNOW THERE ARE DIFFERENCES WHILE MEMBERS VOTE THE WAY THEY DO. HOW MUCH WOULD ACCOUNT FOR THINKING WHAT THE GENERAL... HOW THE GENERAL PUBLIC WILL END UP VOTING? WILL THEY GO FOR THEIR CHOICE OR IS IT A FACTOR THIS IS THE CHOICE THEY PERSONALLY WANT?

Steve says ITS THE KEY. DO MEMBERS CHOOSE THE PERSON THEY THINK HAS THE BEST CHANCE TO WIN OR THE PERSON THEY LIKE THE MOST OR THE PERSON MAYBE THEY O WE? YOU WOULD BE SURPRISED WHAT CRAZY CRITERIA PEOPLE USE. OBVIOUSLY IF THEY ARE PICKING MR. EVES, IF HE WINS, I SUSPECT MANY WILL BE MOTIVATED BY THE FACT THAT THE OSCAR POLL...

Mary says THAT IS NEXT.

Steve says THE POLL SAID ERNIE YOU GOT THE BEST SHOT.

Mary says OKAY. WOW. WE WILL FOLLOW IT.

Steve says TONIGHT, 7-10, WE HAVE ALL THE SPEECHES.

Mary says EXCELLENT. STEVE PAIKIN IS THE author OF "THE LIFE", THE Seductive call OF POLITICS. RUN AWAY BEST SELLER.

A picture of the book appears briefly on screen. The cover features a picture of people greeting a male politician.
A caption reds "www.stevepaikin.com."

Mary says NEXT, WE WILL TALK ABOUT THE OTHER RACE, THE ONE FOR THE GOLDEN NAKED MAN CALLED OSCAR.

A commercial break starts.

An ad for 7 PM show Studio 2 Special plays, followed by a graph showing that I Saw You plays at 10 PM and Diplomatic Immunity plays at 11 PM.
Following, an ad for 9 PM show I saw you plays.
Then, an ad plays for an 8 PM show called "Sunday Night at the Cinema."
Following, an ad plays for 10 PM show Twin Towers: A history.
Finally, an ad plays with the captions "fantasies matter, dreams matter, memories matter. TVO: television that matters."

The commercial break ends.

A short clip shows filming studios and the Hollywood walk of fame. An animated title reads "Movies with Thom Ernst."

Mary says OKAY. WE CAN ROLL OUT THE RED CARPET. WE ARE GOING TO BREAK OUT THE BUBBLY. PLENTY TO WATCH THIS WEEKEND. WE WERE TALKING ABOUT ONE OF THE RACES BUT THE OTHER THOM ERNST IS HERE TO TALK ABOUT, HIS PICKS FOR THE ACADEMY AWARDS.

Thom is in his forties, clean-shaven, with short gray hair. He's wearing glasses and a gray shirt.

He says OSCAR NIGHT. MY FAVORITE TIME OF YEAR.

Mary says IS IT?

Thom says YEAH. ITS A BIG EVENT FOR ME. I LOVE IT. I DON'T GO THERE. I DO IT IN MY LIVING ROOM WITH MY FRIENDS BUT ITS A GREAT TIME.

Mary says I AGREE. WE HAVE SO MUCH TO GET THROUGH. LET'S TALK ABOUT WHO ARE THE NOMINEES FOR BEST PICTURE.

The caption changes to "Thom Ernst. Movie Critic."

Thom says WELL, NOW THIS IS INTERESTING. WE HAVE MOULIN ROUGE, BEAUTIFUL MIND, WHICH I THINK IS A FRONT RUNNER, LORD OF THE RINGS. LORD OF THE RINGS AND BEAUTIFUL MIND ARE THE TWO I THINK WILL BE THE BATTLE BETWEEN. IN THE BEDROOM, WHICH, TO ME KIND OF...

Mary says SNUCK IN THERE?

Thom says I THINK SO. BUT THAT IS MY OWN... WHICH ONE AM I LEAVING OUT? ANY WAY. SORRY. ONE MORE THAT I THINK... GOSFORD PARK. FUNNY I LEAVE THAT OUT BECAUSE ITS MY FAVORITE.

Mary says WE HAVE CLIPS FROM BEAUTIFUL MIND AND LORD OF THE RINGS.

A snippet from a movie plays with the caption "Courtesy: Universal."

In the clip a young woman in an elegant long black dress and a young man wearing a tuxedo walk into a fancy restaurant as photographers take pictures.

As the photographer prepares to take a picture of the man posing with an older man the woman intervenes, fixes her date's bowtie and says WAIT. I'M SORRY. I WANT A COPY OF THIS. FIRST BIG DATE.

She places a pocket square in his lapel and says THERE. BETTER. I'M SURPRISING HIM.

The older man says KEEP ON SURPRISING HIM.

The photographer takes a picture.

Then another clip plays with the caption "Courtesy: Alliance Atlantis."

In the clip a group of men, hobbits and dwarves walks along the crest of a snowy mountain.

One of the men picks up a chain with a golden ring as the others watch, alarmed.

Staring at the ring, the man says IT IS A STRANGE FATE THAT WE SHOULD SUFFER SO MUCH FEAR AND DOUBT OVER SO SMALL A THING. SUCH A LITTLE THING.

Another man yells LEAVE THE RING.

The man holding the ring says AS YOU WISH. I CARE NOT.

He hands it over to a hobbit and pats him on the head.

The clips end.

Mary says YOU KNOW WHAT? I REALLY ENJOYED BOTH MOVIES BAUGH I WOULD LOVE TO SEE LORD OF THE RINGS WIN BUT I DON'T THINK IT WILL BECAUSE ITS A FANTASY.

Thom says FANTASY USUALLY DOESN'T WIN. IF ITS GOING TO WIN, THIS IS THE BEST CHANCE AT IT. I THINK THE LORD OF THE RINGS WON WIN BECAUSE ITS NOT A COMPLETE FILM. WE HAVE TWO MORE FILMS TO MAKE IT THE WHOLE MOVIE. IT WOULD BE ONE THING IF IT WAS LIKE STAR WARS, MADE THEN THE NEXT ONE COMES. BUT THERE IS ALREADY MADE SO IT FEELS INCOMPLETE.

Mary says SO YOU THINK IT JUDGED WHEN WE HAVE SEEN ALL THREE?

Thom says FEELS THAT WAY. YOU KNOW THERE IS MORE. NOW THERE IS A SMEAR CAMPAIGN AGAINST BEAUTIFUL MIND.

Mary says WHAT IS HAPPENING?

Thom says PEOPLE ARE SAYING ITS NOT THE REAL STORY. I MEAN RUSSELL CROW IS NOT DOING THE FILM ANY FAVORS BY ACTING OUT THE WAY HE HAS BEEN LATELY. SO THERE IS A REAL SORT OF ANTI-BEAUTIFUL MIND SENTIMENT OUT THERE IN HOLLYWOOD. THAT MAY WORK AGAINST IT.

Mary says DO YOU THINK ITS COMING UP BECAUSE IT SEEMS TO BE THE FAVORITE? IS THAT WHY?

Thom says I THINK SO. I THINK ITS POLITICAL. YEAH. YOU POINTED OUT THE OSCARS AND POLITICS ARE LINKED. YES. IT'S POLITICAL AND THERE IS A LOT OF IN-FIGHTING. RON HOWARD IS DEFENDING THE FILM NOW. HOW TRUE IT IS. ITS A BIOGRAPHY.

Mary says ALSO SHOULD WE BE GETTING... SHOULD THAT BE AN ISSUE? SHOULD WE TAKE WHAT WE SEE ON THE SCREEN? ISN'T THAT WHAT WE ARE MEASURING? WE ARE NOT MEASURING ALL THE OTHER STUFF.

Thom says THERE IS A DOUBLE EDGE. IF YOU ARE GOING TO DO A BIOGRAPHY, DO THE MAN'S LIFE. SEEMS TO BE THE PROBLEM WITH THOSE FILMS, WE JUST SHOW THE GOOD PARTS.

Mary says EVEN SO, THESE TWO CHOICES ARE NOT YOUR CHOICE FOR BEST PICTURE.

Thom says GOS FORD PARK. THE ONE I LEFT OUT. [LAUGHTER] GOSFORD PARK IS A MIRACLE FILM. SO MANY LAYERS. ITS NOT GOING TO WIN. THIS IS MY PERSONAL CHOICE.

Mary says ITS TOO SMART?

Thom says I DON'T THINK ITS OSCAR MATERIAL. ALSO IT WON'T WIN BECAUSE YOU CAN'T HEAR ALL THE DIALOGUE. ITS A VERY SORT OF... YOU HAVE TO PAY ATTENTION. YOU CAN'T SIT BACK AND GO, AH. I LET IT WASH ALL OVER ME. BUT ITS NOT A FAVORITE IN HOLLYWOOD.

Mary says HE WAS NOMINATED FORT DIRECTOR. LET'S TAKE A LOOK. HERE WE ARE SEEING ROBERT ALTMAN.

In a clip, an older man gives directions to an actor in her sixties.

Thom says YES. HE IS DIRECTING HELEN Mirren WHO IS ALSO NOMINATED. I WOULD LOVE TO SEE ALTMAN WIN.

Mary says YOU KNOW WHAT? I ENJOYED THE FILM. BUT I HAVE TO SAY THAT INTELLECTUALLY I FOUND IT VERY INTERESTING, STIMULATING. I WAS WATCHING IT CLOSELY, LOOKING AT THE LAYERS BUT I FELT EMOTIONALLY COLD FROM THE FILM.

Thom says INTERESTING. BECAUSE MY FEELING WATCHING THE FILM IS THERE ARE DIRECTORS WHO CAN TAKE THREE PEOPLE AND YOU COULDN'T CARE ABOUT ANY OF THEM. IN THIS ONE, HE TOOK HUNDREDS, WELL, MAYBE. I KNEW EACH CHARACTER WHEN I SAW THEM, I KNEW THEM.

Mary says YEAH.

Thom says SO WHETHER I FELT FOR THEM EMOTIONALLY BECAUSE THEY RONALD REAGAN AT A DIFFERENT LEVEL OF LIFE THAN I AM, I KNEW THEM AS CHARACTERS. THAT IS A TRICK.

Mary says YEAH. I DON'T KNOW. I CAN TALK ABOUT IT AND SAY, YES, THIS WAS GREAT. YOU KNOW HOW YOU CAN CHECK THE POINTS BUT IN THE END YOU CAN'T CHECK OFF THE ONE FOR YOUR HEART.

Thom says I HATE TO SOUND LIKE ALT MAN BUT IF YOU SAW THE FILM AGAIN, I BET YOU WOULD FEEL DIFFERENTLY. ONCE YOU KNOW THE ANSWERS, YOU CAN LOOK AT THE CHARACTERS DIFFERENTLY.

Mary says WHAT ABOUT THE OTHER BEST DIRECTOR NOMINEES?

Thom says DAVID LYNCH, MY FAVORITE. I THINK HE DID A TERRIFIC JOB WITH HIS FILM. THAT IS THE GUY I LOVE TO SEE. RIDLEY SCOTT IS IN THE CATEGORY AND I DON'T UNDERSTAND.

Mary says DON'T GET IT?

Thom says I THINK THE FILM DOESN'T DO WHAT IT SHOULD DO. I DON'T THINK IT DEALS WITH THE SITUATIONS WELL. IF HE GOT A NOMINATION BECAUSE ITS BECAUSE HE IS HARD WORKER. IF YOU GIVE THEM OUT FOR OSCARS FOR HARD WORK, GIVE THEM TO YOU OR ME.

Mary says RON HOWARD?

Thom says HE HAS A GOOD CHANCE OF WINNING. HE HAS BEEN IN THE HOLLYWOOD'S GOOD EYE. SO I THINK THIS IS IT. HERE HE IS WITH RUSSELL CROW WEARING HIS BASEBALL CAP.

In a short clip, Ron Howard and Russell Crowe look concentrated as they watch something.

Mary says SO YOU THINK HE IS GOING TO BE TAKEN SERIOUSLY, HEY?

Thom says YES.

Mary says HE HAS HAD GREAT FILMS.

Thom says HE HAS BEEN ACCUSED OF BEING TOO SENTIMENTAL. I JUMP ON THAT BAND WATER. HE DID APOLLO 13. THAT WAS EXCEPTIONAL. BEAUTIFUL MIND, I DIDN'T DISLIKE. BUT I THOUGHT THERE WAS MORE. WHERE IS NEWMAN'S NOMINATION?

Mary says YOU SEEM UNHAPPY ABOUT THE ONES THAT DIDN'T GET IN. OF COURSE PETER JACKSON IS NOMINATED. LET'S MOVE ON HERE. I WANT TO TELL YOU ABOUT THE BEST ACTOR NOMINEES AND YOU TELL ME. JIM BROAD BAND, E THAN HAWK, BEN KINGSLEY, IAN MCELLEN, JOHN VOIGHT IN ALI.

Thom says WHY IS JIM BROAD BAND IN SUPPORTING ROLE? SHE SHOULD BE BEST ACTOR FOR IRIS. HE CARRIES THE FILM. I THINK HE COULD EASILY WIN THIS. E SHOULD WIN THIS BUT I THINK HE WOULD BE IN A DIFFERENT CATEGORY. MY CHOICE OF THAT IS IAN BECAUSE I THINK LORD OF THE RINGS WON'T GET AS MANY AWARDS. THIS IS AN AWARD THEY CAN SAY, AT LEAST HE GOT BEST SUPPORTING ACTOR. HE HAS BEEN GREAT FOR A LONG TIME.

Mary says LET'S TAKE A LOOK.

Another snippet from The Lord of the Rings plays.

In the clip, Elijah Wood playing Frodo says I WISH THE RING HAD NEVER COME TO ME. I WISH NONE OF THIS HAD HAPPENED.

Ian McKellen playing Gandalf says SO DO ALL WHO LIVE TO SEE SUCH TIMES BUT THAT IS NOT FOR THEM TO DECIDE. ALL WE HAVE TO DECIDE IS WHAT TO DO WITH THE TIME THAT IS GIVEN TO US. THERE ARE OTHER FORCES AT WORK IN WORLD BESIDES EVIL. YOU WERE MAERNT TO HAVE IT. THAT IS AN ENCOURAGING THOUGHT.

The clip ends.

Mary says I DIDN'T WANT THAT MOVIE TO END. THREE HOURS AND I WOULD HAVE WATCHED MORE.

Thom says IT DIDN'T END BECAUSE WE HAVE TWO MORE.

Mary says LET'S GO ON. PERFORMANCE IN A LEADING ROLE. RUSSELL CROW, Sean PEN, WILL SMITH, DENZEL WASHINGTON, TOM WILKINSON.

Thom says MOST PEOPLE KNOW BY NOW I DO NOT LIKE IN THE BEDROOM BUT TOM WIG KIN SON DESERVES THE NOMINATION. HE WON'T WIN. ITS BETWEEN WASHINGTON AND RUSSELL CROW. I HOPE ITS DEN ENVELOPE WASHINGTON.

Mary says OKAY. MOVING ON HERE TO TRAINING DAY. WE HAVE A CLIP.

A snippet from a movie plays with the caption "Courtesy: Warner Bros."

In the clip, a young black man drives a young white man in a car as he smokes.

The black man says TOY DAY IS TRAINING DAY, OFFICER. SHOW YOU AROUND, GIVE YOU A TASTE OF THE BUSINESS. I GOT 38 CASES PENDING TRIAL, 63 IN INVESTIGATION, 250 ON THE LOG I CAN'T CLEAR. I SUPERVISE FIVE OFFICERS, FIVE PERSONALITIES, FIVE SETS OF PROBLEMS. YOU COULD BE NUMBER SIX BUT I ANT HOLDING NO HANDS. YOU GOT TODAY AND TODAY ONLY TO SHOW ME WHO AND WHAT QOU ARE MADE OF. OT.

The white man says I HEAR YOU.

The clip ends.

Mary says MOVING ON WE WILL TALK ABOUT BEST ACTRESSES.

Thom says WE HAVE MY FAVORITE OFF THE TOP, HALLE BERRY.

Mary says I AGREE.

Thom says JUDY DENCH. IS NOMINATED EVERY YEAR AND DESERVES IT. NICOLE KIDMAN, GREAT TO SEE HEROIN BECAUSE SHE HAD A BAD YEAR. NOT FOR MOULIN ROUGE, FOR THE GHOST STORY. SIS SI SPAS EK, AVERAGE PERFORMANCE. Renée Zellweger, PEOPLE LIKE HER. I THINK ALL THE NOMINATIONS ARE OKAY. MY VOTE IS HALLE BERRY. AMAZING JOB.

Mary says OKAY. FIRST A CLIP FROM IN THE BEDROOM, THEN MONSTERS BALL.

A clip plays with the caption "Courtesy: Alliance Atlantis."

In the clip, as a middle-aged man tends to wounds around a young man's eye, a young woman says OH MY GOD. WHAT HAPPENED.

The older man says HOLD STILL.

The woman says THIS WAS HER HUSBAND?

The young man says X. DROPPED IN.

The older man says YOU GOING TO PRESS CHARGES?

The young man says NO.

The woman says WHAT IS TO STOP HIM FROM DOING IT AGAIN.

The older man says DID YOU HIT HIM AT ALL?

The woman says JACK.

The young man says I DON'T THINK I TOUCHED HIM.

The older man says WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO?

The young man says TAKE KARATE.

The woman says THAT IS MOTOR THE PROBLEM.

The young man says YOU KNOW YOU LIKE HER.

The woman says I LIKE A LOT OF PEOPLE, FRANK. WHAT ABOUT THE BOYS? DID THEY SEE IT?

The young man says NO. THEY WERE ASLEEP.

The woman says DID YOU LEAVE HER ALONE WITH HIM?

The young man says HE LEFT FIRST. SHE WAS YELLING AT HIM. I BELIEVE SHE HAD A SKILL ET IN HER HAPPENED.

The woman says GODS SAKE. DID YOU CALL THE POLICE?

The older man says NOT YET.

The woman says YOU DIDN'T CALL THEM?

The older man says HE JUST GOT IN.

The woman says WHERE IS THE PHONE.

The young man says MOM, NO. IF YOU CALL THE POLICE THEY WILL COME OVER AND SCARE THE KIDS.

The older man says GOT TO CALL THEM.

The young man says NO. IT WAS A SCUFFLE, THAT'S IT.

The woman says JUST LIKE THE RELATIONSHIP ISN'T SERIOUS.

The clip ends and another clip plays, with the caption "Courtesy: Lions Gate Films."

In the clip, a young man chases a young woman as she gets into a car and he says HEY! HANG ON. WHERE YOU GOING? HEY. WHERE YOU GOING?

She says GET OFF ME. GET YOUR HANDS OFF ME.

He says WHATEVER HE DID... PLEASE.

She drives off.

The clip ends.

Thom says I WANT TO SEE THAT MOVIE AGAIN.

Mary says DO YOU THINK IT WILL BE HALLE BERRY?

Thom says YEAH. I DO THINK.

Mary says I THINK SO TOO. LOVED HER IN THE ROLE. TWO BLACK PERFORMERS UP FOR BEST. WHAT ARE THE CHANCES THE TWO OF THEM WILL GET IT?

Thom says I KNOW THIS IS AN ISSUE BUT WOULDN'T IT BE GREAT IF IT WASN'T? WHAT IF ITS THEY ARE JUST THE BEST.

Mary says SO TRUE. BUT IT IS AN ISSUE. SHE ADDRESSES IT HERSELF.

Thom says SHE DOES. I HAD TO PUT IN MY TWO CENTS. I THINK IT WILL HAPPEN. I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD BE SURPRISED. I THINK WE GOT TWO VERY STRONG PERFORMANCES HERE. THEY BOTH DESERVE IT.

Mary says FINALLY, WHO ARE THE NOMINEES FOR BEST SUPPORTING ACTRESS?

Thom says WE SAW HELEN Mirren, MAGGIE SMITH, MARISSA TOMEI, KATE WINSLET. AGAIN, MY FAVORITE AND I THINK IT WILL WIN, JENNIFER CONNELLY FROM BEAUTIFUL MIND.

Mary says I JUST SAW THAT. I THOUGHT HER PERFORMANCE WAS UNDER STATED. SHE DID A VERY GOOD JOB.

Thom says THAT IS ONE OF THE SECRETS TO A GOOD PERFORMANCE. NOT PUTTING SO MUCH... BACKING AWAY A LITTLE. WHAT DO ACTORS DO BETWEEN THE LINES? SOMETIMES THEY REACT.

Mary says DIDN'T YOU SAY THAT ABOUT TOM WILKINSON?

Thom says I SHOULD HAVE IF I DIDN'T.

Mary says YOU SAID HE HAD AN UNDER STATED PERFORMANCE AND FOR THAT, HE WOULDN'T WIN.

Thom says IT WOULD BE GREAT. I WAS NOT CRAZY ABOUT THE MOVIE. I CAN'T SAY THAT ENOUGH. BUT I DID LOVE WILKINSON'S PERFORMANCE. HE WAS THERE. HE CARRIED HIS ROLE, CARRIED THE STORY. I SAW OTHER PEOPLE ACTING. I SAW TOM WILL CONSON REACTING.

Mary says WE WILL BE WATCHING. ANYTHING THAT HAPPENS ON OSCAR NIGHT. THANKS.

Thom says MY PLEASURE.

A slate reads "More to Life Movie Reviews, www.tvo.org/moretolife."

Mary says THAT IS IT FOR US TODAY. IF THE BLOODY BATTLES IN THE POLITICAL BACK ROOMS AND HOLLYWOOD ISN'T ENOUGH, WE WILL HAVE THE BEST OF MORE TO LIFE TOMORROW TALKING ABOUT BLOOD DISORDERS. MONDAY, WE WILL GET A WARMUP AND WARNING ABOUT SPORTS INJURIES. I'M MARY ITO. THANKS FOR WATCHING. HAVE A GREAT WEEKEND. ENJOY THE OSCARS.

Music plays as the end credits roll.

Host-Producer, Mary Ito.

Executive Producer, Patricia Ellingson.

Series Producer, Cathy Perry.

Director, Vivien Kingsland.

A production of TVOntario. Copyright 2002, The Ontario Educational Communications Authority.

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