Transcript: Gardening, FDNY Ice Sculpture | Mar 07, 2002

(music plays)

A title appears inside the shape of a house: More to Life. Words spin against a red and orange background: Health, Family, Home, Money, Fitness, Life. Fast clips show images related to the previous concepts, such as a dollar bill, a wheat field, and strands of DNA.

In animation, the title appears inside the shape of a house: "More to life."

Then, Mary Ito sits in a studio with textured yellow walls and a door in the background.

Mary is in her late thirties, with short black hair and bangs. She's wearing a black cardigan and a black floral print blouse.

She says GOOD AFTERNOON. YOU'RE WATCHING "MORE TO LIVE" AND I'M MARY ITO. LATER ON IN TODAY'S SHOW, WE'RE GOING SO SHOW YOU BE AN AMAZING ICE SCULPTURE THAT IS STIRRING UP EMOTION AND ADMIRATION ALL OVER THE WORLD. YOU WANT TO STICK AROUND FOR THAT FOR SURE. BUT FIRST, THOUGH IT'S FELT LIKE SPRING FOR MOST OF THIS MILD WINTER, THE REAL SPRING IS JUST ARM THE CORNER. OF COURSE, ALL OF YOU GREEN THUMBS OUT THERE ARE ALREADY STARTING YOUR BE SEASON INDOORS AND WAITING ANXIOUSLY. FRANK IS A HORTICULTURIST AND IS HERE AND ARMED WITH SEEDS AND BU L BS AND THE WHOLE AND IS HERE READY TO TAKE YOUR GARDENING QUESTIONS.

Mark is in his thirties, clean-shaven, with short curly brown hair. He's wearing a green shirt and a gray sweater vest.

Mary continues CALL IN TORONTO...

A caption reads "416-484-2727. 1-888-411-1234."
Then, it changes to "moretolife@tvo.org"

Mary continues YOU DON'T NEED ENTICEMENT OTHER THAN THAT, BUT WE HAVE FIVE BE FABULOUS GIFT PACKAGES TO GIVE AWAY... TO GIVE AWAY, EACH ONE INCLUDES TWO PASSS TO CANADA BLOOMS AND A COPY TO THE POTTED GARDEN BY BECKY FOX.

A copy of the book sits on a table next to pots with plants and two V.I.P. passes to an event. The book cover features a picture of a large pot of grayish-blue succulents.

Mary continues BUT, OF COURSE, YOU HAVE COULD CALL IN WITH A QUESTION TO FRANK BE TO BE ELIGIBLE FOR THE TICKETS AND THE BOOK. FRANKS, NICE TO SEE YOU AGAIN.

Frank says NICE TO SEE YOU AGAIN.

Mary says AFTER YOU CAME IN LAST FALL, YOU CHANGED MY LIFE.

Frank says I CHANGED YOUR LIFE?

Mary says YES, YOU DID BECAUSE I WAS A VIRGIN GARDENER BEFORE I MET YOU AND THEN AFTER YOU CAME IN I RAN OUT AND BOUGHT DOZENS AND DOZEN OF BULB BES AND PLANTED THEM AND NOW I'M JUST LIKE, YOU KNOW, WAITING FOR THEM...

The caption changes to "Frank Ferragine. Horticulturist."

Frank says THAT'S WHAT THAT'S... SO GREAT ABOUT BULB BES, RIGHT, PLANT THEM IN THE FALL AND THEN IN THE WINTER YOU SEE A CARPET OF LIGHT. THEN SOON YOU'LL SEE THEM POKING THEIR HEADS THROUGH THE SOIL AND THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN YOU HAVE BEAUTIFUL COLOUR. AND STARTING OFF WITH CROCUSES AND TULIPS.

Mary says I TRIED TO STAGGER IT ACCORDING TO MONTH AND... I NEVER BE PLANED A BULB BE UNTIL YOU.

Frank says HOW ABOUT... HOW DID THE SQUIRRELS GO?

Mary says YOU TOLD ME TO PUT DOWN THE BLOOD MEAL AND DID I THAT AS WELL.

Frank says AND THEY HAVEN'T COME?

Mary says I HAVEN'T NOTICED IT. ANY WAY, I HAVE MY...

Frank says THAT'S PERFECT.

Mary says NOW, I WANT TO KNOW, THOUGH, UM, AS WE MENTIONED, IT HAS BEEN A REALLY MILD WINTER. SO WHAT KIND OF A EFFECT WILL THAT HAVE ON THE GARDENS?

Frank says WELL, IT'S ACTUALLY SNOW IS REALLY A GOOD THING FOR GARDENS. THE REASON IS NUMBER ONE, IT'S BE AN INSULATOR. NUMBER TWO, IT PROVIDES MOISTURE FOR THE SPRING SO AS SOON AS THAT SNOW MELTS, THERE'S MOISTURE IN THE GROUND SO THE EFFECT THAT IT COULD HAVE IS TO... IT COULD BE DAMAGE TO GO A LOT OF PLANT. MIGHT NOT HAVE MOISTURE THERE AND THE SEVERITY OF THIS WINTER HAS NOT BEEN THAT BAD. COOL EVENING TEMPERATURES, BUT LET'S SAY WE WENT DOWN TO MINUS 20 AND NO SNOW COVER. THAT'S REALLY DAMAGING ON PLANTS AND SHRUB MATERIAL AND EVERYTHING. ONLY TIME WILL TELL AND OTHER THINGS THAT'S HAPPENED THAT PLANTS HAVE SPROUTED DURING THE WINTER MONTHS. YOU KNOW, ROSE WHERE IS IN BLOOM IN DECEMBER THIS YEAR IN SOME GARDENS. SO THAT... THAT ACTUALLY PUTS THEM THROUGH A SHOCK WHERE THEY'RE THINKING, HEY, IS IT SPRING OR IS IT NOT SPRING?

Mary says RIGHT.

Frank says SO... AND THE OTHER PROBLEM WE'RE GOING TO HAVE IS WITHOUT THE COOL TEMPERATURE, WE'LL HAVE A LOT OF DISEASE AND INSECTS THAT OVER WINTER. SO... SO BE COULD BE BE AN INTERESTING GARDEN SEASON THAT WE HAVE COMING UP.

Mary says OKAY, WE MIGHT HAVE CHALLENGES THEN?

Frank says I THINK AS BEING GARDENERS, YOU ALWAYS HAVE CHALLENGES. YOU'RE DEALING WITH LIFE, RIGHT? BUT YEAH, MOST DEFINITELY.

Mary says I WONDERED ABOUT THAT. WHAT HAPPENS, UM, TO A PLANT IF... IF IT DOES BLOOM EARLY? YOU TALK ABOUT THE ROSE INSIDE DECEMBER, RIGHT? SO THEN WHAT HAPPENS TO THAT PLANT ONCE IT'S TIME TO REALLY BLOOM?

Frank says WELL, SOME OF THE PLANTS, LIKE LET'S SAY MAGNOLIAS THAT TAKE A FULL SEASON TO DEVELOP THEIR BLOOM . THEY GO AND THEY SET THEIR BUDS AND THEN THE FROST KNOCKS THEIR BUDS OFF, THOSE BLOMS ARE LOST FOR AN ENTIRE SEASON.

Mary says OH.

Frank says YOU DON'T GET ANY PLOOM COUNT WHATSOEVER OUT OF THEM. SO... SO WITH SOME OF THE PLANTS, THOUGH, THEY JUST BASICALLY GO BACK TO SLEEP AND THEN THEY COME BACK OUT AGAIN. BUT SOMETIME WHAT WILL HAPPEN THEN IS THAT YOU FIND THAT PLANTS WILL BLOOM EARLIER. SOME BLOOM LATER SO NOTHING WILL... WILL BE CONSISTENT. IN COMPARISON SO... TO OTHER YEARS. CONSISTENCY IS THE BEST. SO... SNOW COVER IS REALLY, REALLY IMPORTANT SO IT'S GOING TO BE AIER THAT... THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE SOME MOTORALITY AND THINGS MIGHT DIE. JUST DON'T TAKE, YOU KNOW, DON'T TAKE IT TO HEART.

Mary says OKAY. THAT'S... COULD ALWAYS PLANT AND GROW AGAIN.

Frank says BUT THE ONE THING WHEN YOU SPEAK ABOUT THAT, TOO, WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT DISEASES OVER WINTERING, WHAT YOU SHOULD DO THIS YEAR IS USE A DORMANT SPRAY KIT AND THAT'S ON OUGHT DISIDUOUS PLANT, THOSE ARE THE ONES... NOT EVER GREENS BUT THE ONES THAT LOSE THEIR LEAVES, THE DORMANT KIT WILL KILL ANY OVER WINTERING DISEASES... THE DORMANT SPRAY KIT. IT'S A COMBINATION OF... THAT CAN BE BOUGHT AT MANY DIFFERENT GARDEN CENTRES. ACTUALLY, I HAVE ONE WITH ME. AM AND IT'S... IT'S, UM, I'LL FIND IT IN A MINUTE. IT'S A DORMANT SPRAY KIT. WHAT YOU DO IS YOU DO IT ACTUALLY IN MARCH WHEN THE TEMPERATURES ARE ABOUT 6 DEGREES CELSIUS FOR AT LEAST FOUR HOURS OF THE DON'T WORRY, THE DIRECTION ARE ON THE PACKAGES AND IT'S ORGANIC IN ITS MAKE. LIME SULPHUR AND HORTICULTURAL OIL AND MAKES SURE THAT ROSES AND FRUIT TREES WILL START THIS YEAR CLEAN. WHERE THEY DON'T HAVE ANY HARBOURING DISEASES FROM LAST YEAR THAT ARE THERE.

Mary says I SEE THAT MANY PEOPLE COVER THEIR SHRUBS OVER THE WINTER. IF YOU DIDN'T COVER YOUR SHRUBS THIS WINTER SPECIFICALLY, YOU... DO YOU THINK IT WAS A PROBLEM OR...

Frank says NOT NECESSARILY. WELL IT, DEPENDS ON WHAT SHRUB MATERIAL THAT YOU HAVE A THE LOT OF TIMES, YOU'RE COVERING THEM BECAUSE THERE'S A NORTHWEST WIND THAT NORTHWEST WIND WHICH IS COMING ACROSS DEHYDRATES THE PLANTS AND TAKES A LOT OF MOISTURE AWAY FROM THEM AND YOU WANT TO BREAK THAT DOWN AND SHADE THEM BY THE SUNLIGHT OF WINTER T SHOULDN'T REALLY HARM THEM BECAUSE THIS WINTER WE REALLY DIN HAVE A WINTER. AVERAGE TEMPERATURES WERE AROUND FREEZING AND THE WIND WERE... WEREN'T OUT OF THE NORTHWEST AT ALL THIS YEAR.

Mary says THAT'S WHAT I WAS HOPING. I DIDN'T COVER MINE.

Frank says YOU DIDN'T DO IT?

Mary says THAT'S WHY I WAS ASKING YOU.

Frank says BY THE WAY...

Mary says BABY STEPS, RIGHT? YOU KNOW ONE LITTLE STEP AT A TIME FOR ME.

Frank says CRAWL BEFORE YOU WALK AND WALK BEFORE YOU RUN. I UNDERSTAND.

Mary says LET'S TALK ABOUT SEEDS. HOW DIFFICULT IS IT TO START SEEDS.

Frank says ASK, NUMBER ONE TO... DO I HAVE SPACE IN MY HOME TO PUT THEM. BECAUSE A LOT OF TIMES PEOPLE BUY A DIFFERENT ASSORTMENT OF SEEDS AND HAVE NO SPACE AND AS NO WHERE TO PUT THEM AND THEN REALIZE, HEY, REALLY I ONLY NEED FOUR PLANTS. WELL, SEEDS COME IN... COME IN, YOU KNOW , FROM A PACKET OF THIS, YOU KNOW, THIS ONE HERE, YOU'RE GOING TO GET MULTIPLE PLANTS. AND IF YOU ONLY NEED FOUR, LET'S SAY WITH TOMATOES, FOR INSTANCE, A LOVE THE TIMES PEOPLE DON'T PLANT 30 DIFFERENT TOMATOES UNLESS THEY LIVE IN A RURAL SETTING, IF YOU LIVE IN A URBAN SETTING AND ONLY NEED FOUR CONTAINERS OF TOMATOES, BETTER OFF NOT TO DO THE SEED STARTING BUT TO BUY THE PLANT OF THE ONCE YOU ASKED THAT QUESTION, I HAVE ROOM, I NEED, UM, DIFFERENT PLANTS, AND I NEED A LOT, BECAUSE I CAN SAVE A LOT OF MONEY, IT'S REALLY QUITE SIMPLE. AND IT DEPENDS ON THE DIFFERENT TYPES OF SEEDS, OF COURSE.

As he shows a packet of seeds, he continues
THE MOST IMPORTANT THING IS WHEN YOU LOOK THE BACK OF THE PACK, GENERALLY, UM, THERE'S ALL THE IN FACT IS THERE. AND YOU'LL SEE WHEN THEY SAY SO FOUR TO SIX WEEKS BEFORE LAST FROST DATE, SOMETIMES THAT SOUNDS LIKE A DIFFERENT LANGUAGE. BUT THAT MEANS IS THAT GENERALLY OUR LAST FROST DATE HERE IN TORONTO, BARRIE, OTTAWA, WE COULD SAY JUNE 4TH, MAY 24TH IS OUR LAST FROST DATE. YOU COUNT BACK FOUR TO SIX WEEKS IN THE CALENDER, AND UM, AND THAT'S HOW YOU FIGURE OUT WHEN YOU START YOUR SEEDS.

Mary says OKAY.

Frank says BECAUSE YOU DON'T WANT TO START THEM TOO EARLY.

Mary says TALKING MID-APRIL?

Frank says FOR SOME VARIETIES, YEAH. SOME VARIETIES, LIKE PERENNIALS NEED TO BE STARTED NOW. IT'S JUST... THAT'S WHAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT. FOR INSTANCE, CUCUMBERS...

He shows a packet of cucumber seeds and continues
GERMINATE WITHIN DAYS, SO REALLY TWO WEEKS BEFORE YOU'RE GOING TO PUT THEM IN THE GARDEN, THEN THAT'S WHEN YOU'RE GOING TO SEED THEM SO MANY IT'S REALLY SIMPLE. YOU JUST NEED SOME SPACE. AND YOU GOT TO KEEP MOISTURE. BEST THING TO DO IS TO START THEM ON TOP OF THE FRIDGE. WHY ON TOP OF A FRIDGE? WELL, THERE'S A THE LOVE HEAT THAT COME OF OUT FRIDGE, WARM THE SOIL UP, YOU PUT IN A LITTLE DOME OVER TOP OF THEM WHICH IS LIKE A LITTLE GREENHOUSE THAT KEEPS HUMIDITY IN THERE. THEY GERMINATE AND THEN THE ONE THING THAT ALWAYS GOES WRONG, DO YOU KNOW WHAT GOES WRONG?

Mary says NO, TELL ME. I WANT TO KNOW.

Frank says THEY ALWAYS GET SOMETHING THAT'S CALLED DAMP OFF. SO YOU GERMINATE THE SEEDS AND THEY COME INTO A TWO-LEAF STAGE AND YOU'RE REALLY EXCITED AND ALL OF A SUDDEN THEY FALL OVER. AND THEN THEY START DYING. THE REASON FOR THAT IS DUE TO A FUNGUS AND CALLED DAMPING OFF. SO WHAT YOU USE IS YOU DO A SOIL JUDGE BEFOREHAND WITH SOMETHING CALLED NO DAMP AND THAT PREVENTS DAMPING OFF.

He shows a small bottle of "No-Damp" and continues
DAMPING OFF IS DUE TO THE... TO ALL THE MOISTURE THAT'S THERE. IT'S A FUNGUS AND COMMON IN SEEDLING. RIGHT NOW AT HOME IF YOU HAVE SEEDLINGS AND THEY'RE STARTING TO ROT AT THE BOTTOM AND FALL OVER, YOU HAVE A DISEASE CALLED DAMP OFF AND THE WAY TO CORRECT THAT IS USING THIS, NO DAMP.

Mary says DID YOU SAY THAT YOU CAN USE THAT WHEN YOU HAVE THE SEEDLINGS IN THERE?

Frank says ALREADY. AND IT'S ALWAYS GOOD AS A PREVENTIVE MEASURE TO DO IT BEFOREHAND.

Mary says OKAY.

Frank says AND JUST DO A SOIL JUDGE. THE OTHER THING TO DO IS USE GARLIC. A CRUSH A GARLIC CLOVE. IF YOU DON'T LIKE TO SPEND MONEY, TAKE GARLIC AND CRUSH THE CLOVE AND LET IT SOAK IN WATER AND USE THATS A SOIL... AND IT WORKS WELL, TOO.

Mary says AS A SOIL DREDGE.

Frank says THAT MEANS YOU'RE DREDGING THE SOIL, WASH THE... WASHING THE SOIL WITH IT.

Mary says BUT THE GARLIC WON'T DO ANYTHING FROM THE... WITH THE FUNGUS.

Frank says YEAH, GARLIC HAS ANTI FUNGAL PROPERTIES AND SO THE GARLIC WHEN YOU SOAK IT IN WATER AND THEN YOU DO A SOIL DREDGE, THE GARLIC WILL PREEN YOUR DAMPING OFF.

Mary says IF YOUR FUNGUS IS ALREADY THERE?

Frank says BETTER OFF TO USE THIS.

Mary says ALL RIGHT. GREAT ADVICE. NOWCA THIS... ON THE CATHY ON THE LINE WITH A QUESTION HERE... NOW CATHY ON THE LINE WITH A QUESTION HERE. GO AHEAD.

The Caller says WE'RE IN BE AN AREA WHERE WE TONIGHT HAVE... HAVE VERY GOD SOIL. WHAT'S A GOOD SOIL THAT WE COULD BRING IN. LIKE A TRUCK LOAD. I'M GOING TO MAKE RAISED BEDS. I'VE NEVER HAD ANY LUCK WITH OUR DIRT HERE. SO WE WANT TO BRING IN DIRT. WE WANT TO KNOW WHAT IS THE BEST TO USE, I CAN... LIKE A TOP SOIL? THE BEST TYPE OF SOIL IS A TRIPLE MIX. WHAT THEY CALL A THREE IN ONE MIX. IT'S A MIXTURE BETWEEN TOP SOIL. YOU HAVE PEAT MOSS IN THERE AND THEN YOU HAVE M ANURE. MANUR... MANURE IS... IT'S A GOOD IDEA TO HAVE... DON'T DIG OUT THE SOIL WHEN YOU DO RAISED BEDS AND YOU... AND YOU CAN PUT IT ON TOP AND THAT WORKS BETTER. WHEN YOU TRY TO FIGURE OUT HOW MUCH SOIL YOU NEED, BUT WIDTH TIMES LENGTH IN SPEED TIMES DEPTH IN INCHES DIVIDE BY 12, DIVIDE BY 27 AND GIVES YOU CUBIC YARDS.

Mary says NO KIDDING. YOU CAN MIX UP YOUR FEED IN INCHES.

Frank says WIDTH TIMES...

Mary says DON'T TELL MY KIDS THAT.

Frank says TIMES DEPTH IN INCHES, DIVIDE BY 12 AND DIVIDE BY 27 THAT, GIVES YOU HOW MANY CUBISM C YARDS YOU NEED SO MANY WHEN YOU CALL UP THE PERSON YOU NEED THE SOIL FROM, THEY'LL SAY HOW MANY YARDS YOU NEED? WELL, THAT'S THE WAY TO FIGURE IT OUT. THOSE ARE QUESTIONS YOU HAVE AND A LOT OF TIMES PEOPLE HAVE... ARE LIKE, I DON'T KNOW. I DON'T KNOW. IT'S WIDTH TIMES FEET AND... BY LENGTH AND FEET TIMES WIDTH IN INCH...

Mary says IS THERE ANYTHING WE SHOULD DO TO THE SEEDS...

Frank says THERE'S THREE S'S. ONE IS SOAKING AND STRATIFICATION. SOAKING IS WHEN YOU HAVE A HARD-BASED SEED AND SOAK IT OVER NIGHT THAT BASICALLY MAKE THE COAT AROUND THE SEED SOFT SO THAT IT WILL GERM MATE... GERMINATE. SOME SEEDS HAVE A HARD COAT AND THEY NEED TO BE SCARIFIED. THAT'S WHERE YOU TAKE A SANDPAPER AND SCAR THE FEED. AND THEN YOU WILL GERMINATE.

Mary says HOW DO YOU KNOW?

Frank says IT SAYS IT ON THE BACK OF THE PACKAGE. THEN STRATOPHICATION. YOU PUT THEM IN THE FREEZER FORE SOME 12 OR 24 HOURS AND THEY GO INTO A FREEZE AND THEY THINK THEY'RE IN A DORMANTCEY ASK WHEN THEY FEEL THE WARM TEMPERATURES COME BACK, THEY THINK OKAY IT'S SPRING AND TIME FOR ME TO GERM MATE AND GROW. THOSE ARE THE THREE BASIC S'S OF SEED STARTING. USUALLY ON THE BACK OF THE PACKAGES, YOU ALWAYS HAVE DIFFERENT INFORMATION ABOUT DEPTH AND WHEN TO START THEM. IF THEY NEED ANY SPECIAL, UM, CARE AND CONSIDERATIONS, UM AND WHEN YOU'RE STARTING OUT, START WITH THE EASY ONES, UM, LIKE NO... DON'T TRY TO START WITH MANY PERENNIALS. PERENNIALS ARE DIFFICULT.

Mary says LIKE WHAT?

Frank says DO MARISM GO L DS FIRST BECAUSE THEY'RE THE KISS, KEEP IT SIMPLE SEED. REALLY EASY TO DO. CUCUMBERS IF YOU'RE DOING VEJ TANELS, VERY, VERY EASY TO DO. TOMATOES. EVERYONE LIKES THEM. THEY'RE THE MOST POPULAR FROUT, THEY'RE NOT A VEGETABLE. EVERYBODY LIKES THEM. THEY'RE EASY. MANY PERENNISM AS SEEDS ARE DIFFICULT BECAUSE IT TAKES THEM A LONG TIME TO POKE THEIR HEADS THROUGH THE GROUND. SOME ARE NINE WEEKS BEFORE THEY COME THROUGH THE GROUND SO... SO THEY... THEY NEED DIFFERENT CONDITIONS TO GO THROUGH IT AND THEN WON THOSE CONDITIONS HAPPEN... GO WITH THE BASICS. THE EASY NO... KNOW HOUSE. WHEN YOU PURCHASE SEEDS, YOU KNOW, IF YOU'RE AT A GARDEN, ASK THE QUESTIONS. WHAT ARE SOME EASY SEEDS? AND THEN START SMALL AND WORK YOUR WAY UP. IF YOU DON'T NEED A LOVE PLAN. LET'S SAY WE'RE STARTING A GARDEN TOGETHER, I'LL SAY TO YOU, YOU START THE M ARIGOLDS AND I'LL START THE IMPATIENCE AND THEN WE DIVIDE OUR SEEDS UP. OUR PLANTS LATER ON.

Mary says RIGHT. SURE, SURE.

Frank says YOU KIND OF HALF THE RESPONSIBILITY. I CAN CHECK UP ON YOU AND I CAN CHECK UP ON YOU.

Mary says AND TWICE THE VARIETY.

Frank says TWICE THE VARIETY. ALWAYS AN EXCUSE FOR A DINNER PARTY.

Mary says OKAY. SOUND GOOD. OH, THAT'S GOOD, EH? YEAH, I'LL SHARE THE FLOWER DINNER PARTY.

Frank says THERE YOU GO.

Mary says LET'S TALK TO RICHARD NOW ON THE LINE FROM WINDSOR. HI.

The Caller says YES, GOOD AFTERNOON.

Mary says HI.

The Caller says I LOVE YOUR PROGRAM AND I'LL TRY TO BE BRIEF. I WANT TO TALK ABOUT TOMATO SEEDS. IF I START THIS IN THE HOUSE, AM I BETTER OFF TO GET A FRESH PACKAGE OF SEED FROM THE STORE, OR CAN I ALSO FALL BACK ON THE SEATS... THE SEEDS WHICH HAVE BEEN IN THE HOUSE FOR A WHILE?

Frank says HUH. THE FRESH PACKAGES ARE GENERALLY THE BEST TO GET, BECAUSE THEY'RE GOOD FOR THAT SEASON. BUT LET'S SAY THAT YOU WANT TO USE THE OLD PACKAGE THAT YOU HAVE SITTING AT YOUR HOME OR YOU SAVED SOME SEEDS FROM LAST YEAR, WHEN YOU PUT THEM IN WATER AND YOU'RE SOAKING THEM, THE ONES THAT ACTUALLY SINK TO THE BOTTOM ARE THE VIABLE ONES. THE ONES THAT FLOAT TO THE TOP THAT THE RUNS THAT... ARE THE ONES THAT ARE NOT VIABLE. THAT'S THE WAY TO JUST TEST IT OUT AND FIGURE OUT WHICH ARE GOOD AND WHICH ARE BAD. BUT GENERALLY IF YOU'RE DOING... YOU WANT TO MAKE SURE, BECAUSE GENERALLY THE SEEDS IN THE PACKAGES HERE HAVE WHAT THEY CALL A 90 percent GERM NATION RATE SO THEY'VE ALL BEEN TEST TODAY GERMINATE FOR 90 percent OF THEM. SO OUT OF 10 SEEDS THAT WE SEED, WE'RE GOING TO GET NINE THAT GERMINATE. FOR SURE. AND WHEN YOU GO THROUGH THE TIME AND EFFORT TO DO THAT, YOU'RE BETTER OFF TO JUST... JUST TO BOY A NEW PACK. IT COMES TO TOMATOES, UPPED TO BUY HYBRID VARIETIES AND IF YOU USE THE TOMATOES THAT YOU PICK OFF THE VINE, SOMETIMES THEY CROSS POLLINATE WITH EACH OTHER AND THE VARIETY THAT YOU GET IS NOT THE TRUE VARIETY OF WHAT YOU STARTED OUT WITH.

Mary says RIGHT. DO SEEDS GENERALLY LAST, LET'S SAY FOR A YEAR? IF YOU HOLD ON TO THE ONES THAT YOU DIDN'T USE LAST YEAR?

Frank says SOME SEEDS CAN LAST FOR SEVERAL YEARS. ALL ABOUT STORAGE. THE BEST PLACE TO STORE THEM IS IN THE FRIDGE, NOT THE FREEZER. IN A SEALED CONTAINER WHERE THEY WON'T GET ANY MOISTURE IN.

Mary says AH. OKAY. OKAY. LET'S TALK TO PAM NOW. SHE'S ON THE LINE FROM... FROM... IS IT BELLEVILLE. HI, PAM.

The Caller says HI. HOW ARE YOU?

Mary says FINE, THANKS.

The Caller says I ENJOY YOUR SHOW. IT'S VERY INFORMATIVE. I BROUGHT IN SEVEN PATIO POTS FROM THE, UM, FROM THE PATIO, OF COURSE, FULL OF GERANIUMS. THEY'RE SO BEAUTIFUL, I HATED TO LET THEM... AND THIS IS THE FIRST TIME I... I BROUGHT IN PLANTS TO... TO OVER WINTER AND I JUST LEFT THEM AS THEY WERE. THEY HAD BEEN TOUCHED WITH FROST A BIT SO, I CLEARED THAT AWAY. IN FACT, CLEARED IT AWAY TWICE. THREE OF THEM ARE DOING BEAUTIFULLY AND THE OTHER FOUR I THINK I'VE ALMOST LOST. SO WHAT AM I DOING WRONG? MAYBE IT'S THE ANTI FUNGUS THING I SHOULD BE USING.

Frank says WELL, YOU WOULDN'T USE DAMP... NO DAMP ON THOSE. THE MOST IMPORTANT THING IS... IS TO PUT THEM IN THE SUNEST WINDOW THAT YOU HAVE, GERANIU MS LIKE A LOT OF SUN AND DURING THE WINTER MONTH WE DON'T REALLY HAVE A LOT OF SUN. SO WEST OR SOUTH FACING AND THE OTHER THING TO DO IS ALLOW THEM TO DRY OUT IN BETWEEN WATERINGINGS. A THE LOVE TIME YOU KILL WITH KINDNESS BECAUSE YOU'RE OVER WATERING AND THE LAST THING TO DO NOW THAT THE DAYLIGHT HOURS ARE GETTING LONGER IS TO PINCH THEM BACK. GIVE THEM A HAIRCUT. PINCH THEM BACK. THAT WILL STIMULATE MORE GROWTH AND NOW IS THE TIME THAT YOU START TO FERTILIZE YOUR INDOOR PLANTS. OUR DAYS ARE GETTING LONGER SO THEY'RE GOING TO BE ACTIVELY GROWING AND NEED SOME FOOD SO MANY GIVE THEM... THE ONES THAT ARE REALLY KIND OF THAT YOU THINK YOU'VE LOST, BE... BE MALICIOUS ON THEM. CUT THEM ALMOST RIGHT DOWN SO, THEY'RE ONLY ABOUT THAT MUCH ABOVE THE POT. UM, YOU CAN CUT THEM A THIRD, UM, ALL THE WAY BACK. YOU WILL...

Mary says REALLY?

Frank says YOU CAN BRING THEM TO A HALF AND THEN THEY'LL START TO BRAFIRMB OUT WITH THE NEW BRACKETS AND THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN THEY SHOULD BE FINE. BUT FERTILIZE AS WELL. USE A FERTILIZER AND, UM, A TRIPLE 20. THAT'S THE EASIEST ONE TO USE. PRETTY GENERAL. CAN USE IT ON ANYTHING. BUT MIX IT AT HALF STRENGTH. BUT ANY TIME YOU WATER, FERTILIZE. HALF STRENGTH, EVERY TIME YOU WATER, FERTILIZE.

Mary says OKAY. NOW A CALL FROM JIM WHO'S ON THE LINE FROM TORONTO. HELLO, JIM.

The Caller says HI, MARY. I SURE ENJOY YOUR SHOW.

Mary says THANK YOU.

The Caller says I WATCH IT EVERY DAY WITH MY WIFE HERE.

Mary says GOOD. GLAD TO HEAR THAT.

The Caller says ANY WAY, WHEN HE FIRST STARTED, YOU TALKED ABOUT THE BLOOD MEAL AND IT STOPS THE SQUIRRELS. BUT WHAT ABOUT RACCOONS? THAT'S WHERE OUR PROBLEM... WE'RE OUT IN THE HE TOBE CO AREA, AROUND THE ETOBICOKE CREEK AND WE HAVE QUITE A FEW RACCOONS AND I JUST WONDERED, WILL THAT ALSO HELP TO KEEP THEM BACK AS WELL?

Frank says IT WILL HELP IN A WAY. BUT... BLOOD MEAL IS... IS GOOD TO DISTRACT MOST RODENTS BUT IT... WHEN IT COMES TO RACCOONS, THEY KIND OF GO THROUGH ANYTHING. IF THEY'RE HUNGRY ENOUGH, THEY'LL GO ANYWHERE MUCH THERE'S ANOTHER PRODUCT YOU CAN USED CALLED CRITTER RITTER. WHAT'S GOOD ABOUT THAT... BLOOD MEAL IF YOU PUT IT AROUND AN AREA IN TRYING TO DISTRACT A RACCOON, ONCE IT RAINS BE IT'S GONE. CRITTER RIT WHER YOU PUT IT DOWN AND IT RAIN IT, DONE LEAVE. SO... SO IT WILL WORK FAST. BUT WITH RACCOONS, UM, THE MAIN THING IS JUST TWO... TRY TO GET RID OF THE FOOD SOURCES THEY'RE LOOKING FOR AND SO YOUR COMPOST PILE AND GARBAGE AND THINGS LIKE THAT. THAT'S WHAT THEY'LL GO FOR AND A LOT OF TIMES A... WHAT... NO MATTER WHAT SORT OF REPELLENT YOU PUT DOWN IF THEY'RE HUNGRY ENOUGH, THEY'LL GO.

Mary says WHAT IS BLOOD MEAL?

Frank says IT'S MADE FROM DRY BLOOD. UM, AND IT... THAT'S WHERE IT DIS DISTRACTS MANY RODENT BECAUSE THAT SMELL IS THE ONE THIS... THAT THEY DON'T LIKE. BONE MEAL IS ACTUALLY MADE FROM BONE. BUT A THE LO OF THE TIMES WITH BONE MEAL IT, ATTRACTS A LOT OF RODENTS. THEY'RE ATTRACT TODAY IT. UM, BONE MEAL TAKE... TAKES A LONG TIME TO BREAK DOWN. TAKES A VERY LONG TIME. SO WHEN YOU'RE USING IT WITH PLANTING, IT'S NOT AN IMMEDIATE FERTILIZATION. IT TAKES A LONG TIME TO BREAK DOWN. UM, SO THOSE... JUST COUPLE OF THINGS ABOUT THEM. A LOT OF TIMES WHEN EVER YOU DO TRANSPLANTING, IT'S A GOOD IDEA OUT IN THE GUARD TONE PUT BONE MEAL IN THERE. BUT GOOD TO DO A BONE MEAL-BLOOD MEAL MIXTURE SO THAT YOU'RE NOT ATTRACTING...

Mary says ALL RIGHT. LET'S TAKE A CALL NOW FROM CATHY CATHY. HI.

The Caller says HI.

Mary says HI. GO AHEAD.

The Caller says YES, I HAVE A... A CLAMATA THAT I PLANED ABOUT THREE OR FOUR YEARS AGO AND I HAVE A PENISM E THAT I PUT IT BEHIND. THE PENI ETCH WAS ESTABLISHED AND THERE FOR TEN YEARS AND OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS, THE PENIE BUSH HASN'T DONE ANYTHING LIKE THIS USED TO AND I WONDER IF THE CLA M ATAS DID ANYTHING TO THAT AND IF SO, CAN I MOVE IT AS SOON AS I CAN TYPE THING.

Frank says SOMETIMES WITH A PENIE PLAN, THE REASON WHY THEY DON'T BLOOM IS EITHER BY LIGHT OR IMPROPER LOCATION, FERTILIZATION OR, UM, OR THE PLANTING DEPTH. IF THEY'RE PLANTED TOO DEEP, THEN THEY WILL NOT FLOWER. SO MAYBE IN THE TIME WHEN YOU PLANTED THE C LAMATAS, THE PENIE COULD HAVE SUNK DOWN AND BEEN PLANTED TOO DEEP. THE EYES ARE TOO DEEP. A THE LO OF THE TIMES IF THE PENIE HAS BEEN THERE A LONG TIME, AFTER YEARS AND YEARS AND YEARS, AND YOU GET FEWER AND WEAKER BLOOMS AND THAT'S THE TIME WHEN YOU NEED TO DIG THEM AND DIVIDE THEM. BY TWIGEDE THEM, YOU STIMULATE THEM INTO NEW BLOOM SO IT MIGHT BE A GOOD IDEA TO MOVE IT THIS YEAR OR JUST DIVIDE THE CLUMP, BECAUSE YOU STILL HAVE TO SHADE THE CLA M ATAS BECAUSE A CLAMATAS LIKES A SHADED BOTTOM AND A SUNNY TOP. MOVE AND BY DIVIDING IT, SHOULD STIMULATE IT TO GO INTO BLOOM AND MAKE SURE IT'S NOT BLANTED... PLANTED TOO DEEP AND MAKE SURE IN THAT AREA YOU HAVE... YOU STILL HAVE A LOT OF SUN.

Mary says SO DOES THE CA... C L AMATAS HAVE ANY EFFECT?

Frank says IT SHOULDN'T HAVE ANY DIRECT EFFECT. MOST TIMES IT'S THE... IT'S THE OPPOSITE. WHERE THE PLANT IN FRONT IS HAVING AN EFFECT ON THE CLAMATAS. BECAUSE CLAMATAS LIKE ALKALINE SOIL AND A THE LOVE TIMES THE PLANT YOU PUT IN FRONT OF IT LIKES AN ACIDIC SOIL AND YOU'RE FERTILIZEING THINGS THAT'S HIGH IN A C IDITY AND THE CLAMATAS LIKES THE OTHER SOIL AND YOU HAVE TO GET IT IN BALANCE.

Mary says I'M INTERESTED IN WHAT THE NEW TRENDY GARDENING TREND OUT THERE. WHAT'S POPULAR NOW?

Frank says LAST YEAR IT WAS GUARD EN FAIRIES AND I THINK THAT'S POPULAR THIS YEAR. GARDEN ART IS POPULAR. WHERE YOU ACCESSORIZE YOUR GARDEN. SOMETHING TO PUT INTO THE GARDEN. IT COMES TO PLANTS, THOUGH, SOMETHING INTERESTING IS THIS MARGARETE IMPATIENT.

He shows a small plant with tiny red flowers and says IT'S A DWARF. AND REALLY GOOD FOR BORDERS. REMEMBER, IT'S A SHADE PLANT. JUST A NEW INTRODUCTION AND IT'S A MINUTE TOURIZED ONE. IT'S NOT READILY AVAILABLE. WHEN... WHENEVER YOU SEE NEW DUKES AND WHEN... WHEN YOU GO INTO THE GARDEN CENTRE AND YOU ASK FOR THEM, AND THEY DON'T HAVE THEM IT'S BECAUSE THEY'RE NEW IN STOCK.

Mary says SAME AS A REGULAR IMPATIENT.

Frank says YOU CAN GROW THROUGH... THESE THROUGH KUGST. THESE... THIS IS IN A... A NEW VEERT OF FIN C A CALLED MOJO'S GEM.

He shows a small plant with rounded green leaves with yellow stripes and continues
THERE'S SEVERAL NEW VARIETIES OF THIS THIS YEAR AND THAT'S REALLY GOOD IN CONTAINER GARDENING A TRAILING PLANT. MANY OF THEM ALSO THE NEW VARIETIES THAT ARE OUT THERE ARE PERENNIALS WHERE THEY OVER WINTER. SO THEY'RE KIND OF NEAT. THEN WHAT YOU HAVE NOT REALLY NEW BUT A GOOD TREND IS A LOT OF HERBS NOW.

Mary says I WAS GOING TO ASK YOU, BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE... PEOPLE ARE REALLY INTO GROWING HERBS IN THEIR KITCHENS AND...

Frank says THIS IS TRI-COLOURED SAGE AND THIS IS GINGER MINT F YOU LOOK THE PLANS THEMSELVES...

He shows a sage with grayish leaves and a large mint with yellow specs on its leaves.

He continues THEY HAVE AN INTERESTING FOLIAGE. SO WHAT THESE ARE REALLY GOOD FOR IS TO USE IN THE CONTAINER. WHERE YOU CAN ACTUALLY USE THE HERB ITSELF OR... AND THEN YOU CAN ALSO THEM AS A FOLIAGE PLANT SO THEY LOOK GOOD AND REMEMBER WHEN YOU'RE DOING CONTAINER GARDENING, THERE'S NO BORDERS. NOW YOU CAN... YOU CAN USE PEREN PERENNIAL HERBS AND PUT A FLOWER CABBAGE. VEGETABLES MIXED IN CONTAINERS WORK AS WELL. NOW THE TREND IN GARDENING IS THERE'S SO MANY DIFFERENT TREND. GARDENING IS ABOUT YOUR OWN PERSONALITY AND FIGURING OUT WHAT YOU LIKE AND GOING FOR IT. CONTAINERS ARE VERY BIG. AQUATIC GARDENING, WATER GARDENING. FENG SHUI.

Mary says THAT'S POPULAR, ISN'T IT?

Frank says ALL ABOUT THE PLACEMENT OF COLOUR THROUGHOUT YOUR ENVIRONMENT. THE OUTDOOR ENVIRONMENT AND INDOOR ENVIRONMENT FOR PROSPERITY IN ONE'S LIFE. ONE RULE THAT THEY SAY IN FENG SHUI... NOBODY'S REALLY... I ASKED, UM, A CONSULTANT AND THEY SAY IT WAS FENG SHU I THEN I ASKED ANOTHER INDIVIDUAL WHO SAID IT WAS FENG SH... UI. AND SO I SAY BOTH AND THEY SAY WITH DRIED FLOWERS, SHOULDN'T HAVE DELAYED FLOWERS AND ALWAYS FRESH FLOWERS. THING... SOMETHING I DEGREE WITH AS WELL BECAUSE THEY ALWAYS BRIGHTEN THE HOME AND THIS IS A TIME RIGHT NOW WHERE WE DO NEED SOME INSPIRATION.

Mary says ABSOLUTELY. I LOVE TO GET A BUNCH OF BEAUTIFUL FRESH FLOWERS AND PUT THEM IN A VASE.

Frank says TULIPS. YOU KNOW HOW TO KEEP THEM LONGER?
PUT A COPPER, A PENNY IN THE BOTTOM OF THE TU LISM PS AND THAT PREVENTS THEM FROM... YOU KNOW HOW A TULIP ALWAYS GROWS... IF YOU PUT A PENNY IN THE BOTTOM, IT PREVENTS THEM FROM BOLTING.

Mary says PUT A PENNY ON THE BOTTOM...

Frank says YEAH, THE COPPER ARE PREVENT IT.

Mary says I DIDN'T KNOW THAT. GOING BACK TO THE HERBS, TOO, ONE QUESTION. IT IS VERY POPULAR DOING INDOOR HERBS. PEOPLE HAVE THE LITTLE HERB GARDENS S THAT A DIFFICULT THING TO START AND DO? THE ONLY THING WHEN IT COMES TO DOING INDOOR PLANTS AND PLANTS THAT ARE TYPICALLY ONES YOU FIND IN AN OUTDOOR ENVIRONMENT IS LIGHT. IT... IS HAVING ENOUGH LIGHT SO SOMETIMES YOU HAVE TO GET A GROW LIGHT. BUT THAT'S WITHIN THERE. THE OTHER THING TOO IS MAINTAINING A LIGHT OF HUMIDITY DURING THE WINTER MONTH BECAUSE OUR HOMES GET VERY DRY SO SOMETIMES BY PUTTING A PEBBLE TRAY UNDERNEATH THEM, THE PLANT'S ON TOP OF THE PEBBLES AND THAT WATER ON THE TRAY AND WHEN THE WATER EVAPORATES, IT CREATES HUMIDITY. PLANTS ARE GOOD IN A GROUPING.

Mary says IS A KITCHEN A GOD PLACE?

Frank says YOU HAVE TO REMEMBER THE KITCHEN HAS A SOUTHWEST FACING WINDOW AND WITH HERBS, TO KEEP THEM HEADLIGHT THINK, YOU HAVE TO USE THEM. YOU ALWAYS HAVE O PINCH THEM AND THEN YOU JUST BASICALLY... BY PINCHING THEM, YOU CAN SEE, FOR INSTANCE, WHERE THIS PLANT WAS LAST PINCHED, YOU CAN SEE RIGHT HERE. YOU CAN SEE WHERE THE PINCH WAS, RIGHT THERE. I DON'T KNOW IF THE CAMERA CAN GET THAT.

Mary says YEAH, THAT'S A LITTLE.

As he shows Mary the under part of a leaf and stem, he says THAT'S WHERE THAT LAST PINCH WAS. AS SOON AS THAT WAS PINCHED, YOU HAD TWO NEW STEMS THAT CAME OUT. ALWAYS PROMOTES HEALTHIER GROWTH FOR THEM.

Mary says OKAY. NOW TO JOYS FROM AJAX.

The Caller says HI.

Mary says GO AHEAD.

The Caller says MY QUESTION IS I REALLY LIKE PERENNIALS AND ONE OF MY FAVOURITE IS BLEEDING HEARTS. BECAUSE THEY... THEY HAVE A BLOOM, YOU KNOW, FOR A REALLY LONG TIME. I WAS WONDERING IF YOU COULD GIVE ME A NAME OF A FEW OTHERS.

Frank says FOR A... ARE YOU DOING SHADE? ARE YOU DOING SUN? WHAT... WHAT TYPE OF PERENNIAL GARDEN?

The Caller says SUN.

Frank says BLEEDING HEARTS ARE GENERALLY A PLAN THAT DOES REALLY WELL IN SHADE. THERE ARE FOREVER BLOOMING ONES THAT DO WELL IN SUNLIGHT. ANOTHER ONE WHICH IS RUDIBACHIA, THE PURPLE CAULIFLOWERS BLOOM FOR A LONG PERIOD MUCH DON'T THINK ABOUT BLOOM, TOO. YOU HAVE TO THINK ABOUT TEXTURE. BECAUSE WITH PERENNIAL GARDEN, PERENNIALS BLOOM TO... FOR A PERIOD AND THEN DON'T BLOOM ANYMORE. BY PUTTING IN A GRASS GIVES TEXTURE AND WHEN THE WIND BLOWS BY, IT GIVES IT SOME CHARACTER. THE OTHER THING YOU WANT TO DO TOO, WHEN YOU DO A PERENNIAL GARDEN, LOOK FOR A BLOOM. PUT POCKETS OF ANNUAL INSIDE THERE SO WHEN THE PERENNIAL PLANTS ARE NOT BLOOMING ANYMORE, THE ANNUAL ARE THERE... ARE THERE TO GIVE CONSISTENT COLOUR. THERE ARE PERENNIALS THAT IS GIVE A LONG BLOOM PERIOD AND WHEN YOU... WHEN YOU LOOK AT THEM, MAKE SURE... DON'T BUY THE THINGS THAT ARE IN BLOOM. READ THE INFORMATION. RUDIBECHIA IS MY FAVOURITE AND ONE LONG BUTTER BLUE.

Mary says WHAT KIND OF BLUE IS IT?

Frank says LIGHT BLUE.

He shows a packet of seeds with a picture of purplish-blue pansies and continues
LIKE THIS PANSY RIGHT HERE. HAS ALMOST LIKE A SPIDER TYPE FOLIAGE AND THE FLOWER LOOKS LIKE A SPIDER-TYPE FLOWER. MORE OF A LOW GROUND COVERING. THAT'S THE OTHER THING WHEN YOU DO A PERENNIAL GARDEN BE PLAN THINGS SHORT IN THE FRONT AND MEDIUM HEIGHTS IN THE MIDDLE AND TALL FLOWERS IN THE BACK.

Mary says OKAY. LET'S TAKE A CALL FROM FRANK NOW. HI.

The Caller says HI.

Mary says HI.

The Caller says HOW YOU DOING?

Mary says GOOD, GOOD.

The Caller says I WONDERED WHEN IS THE BEST TIME TO TRY AND TAKE KUGST FROM FRUIT TREES TO... TO, UM TO, ROOT... TO TRY AND GET THEM ROOTED? TO START OFF WITH NEW ONES?

Frank says THE BEST TIME TO TAKE THOSE KUGST ARE EARLY SEASON. JUST BEFORE THE BUDS ARE STARTING TO CRACK. THE ONLY THING IS WHEN MANY FRUIT TREES, UM, IS... IS THAT THEY'RE GRAFTED. YOU HAVE TO LEARN THE PROCESS OF GRAFTING. IT'S... IT'S NOT A PROCESS THAT I KNOW A LOT ABOUT. UM, BUT MOST FRUIT TREES ARE GRFTED. SO WHAT THEY'RE DOING IS THEY'RE TAKING A MAIN STEM, GRAFTING ANOTHER STEM ON TO THAT PLANT AND THAT CREATES THE CROSS POLLINATION AND, UM, AND THEN ALSO WHAT YOU GET IS YOUR TRUE VARIETIES FROM THAT. SO IT... WITH FRUIT TREES, IT'S NOT THAT YOU CAN JUST TAKE A CUTTING AND THEN IT WILL GROW THE FRUIT TREE THAT YOU TOOK A CUTTING OFF OF. YOU HAVE TO GRAPH THEM ON.

Mary says YOU KNOW, I'M JUST LOOKING AT THE DIFFERENT PLANTS THAT YOU HAVE BACK HERE. NOW, THIS... THIS... THIS IS VERY CUTE. YOU'VE GOT A CHILD'S RAIN BOOT HERE. BUT THAT... IS THAT A GOOD IDEA, TO DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT?

She places a rubber boot containing plants with blue flowers.

Frank says I JUST HAD SOME LITTLE BOOTS AT MY HOME.

Mary says ARE THESE YOUR BOOTS, FRANK? YOUR OLD BOOTS.

Frank says JUST SOMETHING WE DID IN THE PAST AND WE STUCK IT IN TODAY. YOU CAN PUT IT BY THE FRONT DOOR AND YOU TAKE A C ROCUS AND YOU SHOOF IT IN... HOFF IS... SHOVE IT IN A BOOED. AND PUT MOSS HERE AND PUT IT IN... AT THE ENTRANCE WAY TO YOUR HOME. JUST KIND OF GIVES A LITTLE CHARACTER.

Mary says AND...

Frank says IT'S A WELCOMING.

Mary says YOU KNOW WHAT? NOW THAT I BROUGHT THIS CLOSER, I SEE THAT YOU HAVE PUT A POT...

Frank says RIGHT IN THERE.

Mary says WHICH IS SMART. BECAUSE I THOUGHT THAT THE PLANT WAS RIGHT IN THE BOOT.

Frank says NO.

Mary says OF COURSE, MY PROBLEM IS THAT I SEE SO MANY BEAUTIFUL POTS, AND... AND I THINK WOULDN'T THAT BE GREAT? AND I'LL PUT A PLANT IN THAT AND I PUT IT IN CAREFULLY AND I SEE THERE ARE NO HOLES IN THE BOTTOM. I MEAN...

Frank says THAT'S THE TIME WHERE YOU HAVE TO KNOW THAT YOU HAVE TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT DRAINAGE. SO YOU PUT A LITTLE STYROFOAM OR PEBBLES. POTS WHEN YOU'RE SELECTING POTS, IT'S GENERALLY A GOOD IDEA TO FERG OUT THE LOCATION WHERE YOU NEED A PLANT. AND THEN YOU FIGURE OUT A COLOUR OF PLANT THAT YOU WANT. AND THEN YOU GO OUT AND SELECT A... SELECT A PLANTS THAT YOU CAN CAN... DO DO THE POT FIRST OR THE PLANT OR THE PLANT AND THEN THE POT. BUT MAKE SURE THE POT IS A GOOD SELECTION FOR THE PLANT. WITH DRAINAGE HOLES. IF NOT DRAINAGE HOLES, CREATE AN AREA... YOU HAVE TO CREATE AN AREA WITH... WHERE THE WATER CAN SIT AND THEN THE PLANT DOESN'T HAVE TO SIT IN THE WATER, LIKE YOU SITTING IN A TUB FOR A WEEK. YOU GO THROUGH... SHIFLD AND THEY GO THROUGH ROOT ROT. THEY ROOT OUT AND DIE... ROT OUT AND DIE.

Mary says NOW TO CAREY IN TORONTO.

The Caller says HI.

Mary says HI, GO AHEAD.

The Caller says I HAVE A BUNCH OF L ILAC TREES OUTSIDE MY YARD BUT THEY'VE OVER GROWN AND THEY'RE TOO TALL AND I DON'T CUT... PRUNE UNTIL AFTER THE BLOOMING, BUT HOW FAR CAN I CUT BACK A TREE AND STILL HAVE IT SURVIVE?

Frank says GENERALLY AS A RULE OF THUMB, THE BEST THING IS TO CUT NO MORE THAN A THIRD AND THEN YOU CAN STAGGER THAT OVER TIME. SOMETIMES YOU CAN GET AWAY WITH PRUNING A PLANT BACK TO A HALF. BUT THE RULE OF THUMB IS GENERALLY A THIRD IF YOU WANT TO BE ON THE SAFE SIDE. WITH LISM LA CS , A LOT OF TIMES, YOU CAN BE AGGRESSIVE WITH THEM AND GO BACK TO A HALF. SO... AND THE OTHER THING YOU WANT TO DO WITH YOUR LISM LAC IN THE SAME TIME YOU PRUNE IT TO TRY AND... LILAC, IN THE SAME TIME YOU PRUNE IT AND TRY TO STAY WITHIN HEIGHT, PRUNE ANY DEAD STEMS THAT ARE IN AND PRUNE IN THE CENTRE SO THAT AIR CIRCULATION WILL STILL GO THROUGH. GOOD AIR FLOW SO ANY BRANCHES GROWING INWARD OR WHERE THEY'RE CLUMPING TOGETHER , WHEN THEY HAVE LEAVES ON, WHAT HAPPENS AT THAT TIME, IS THEY DEADEN AND AREAS WHERE DISEASE CAN START IS THERE.

Mary says OKAY. WHAT... WHAT IS THE DEFINITION OF A WEED?

Frank says OF A WEED?
DEFINITION OF A WEED IS AN UNSDOOSHAL PLANT.

Mary says OKAY SO ITS... IT'S ENTIRELY SUBTIVE BE SIN IT?

Frank says YEAH.

Mary says I MEAN, THERE ARE ACTUALLY VERY NICE LOOKING WEEDS. IN MY OPINION. I MEAN, THAT MAY BE BLASPHEMOUS FROM...

Frank says MANY PERENNIAL PLANTS AT ONE TIME WERE A WEED, EITHER IN THIS COUNTRY OR ANOTHER COUNTRY AND THEN THEY HAVE BECOME, I CALL MANY PERENNIALS DOMESTICATED WEEDS. LIKES QUEEN'S ANNE'S LACE BUT IF YOU GO INTO FLORAL ARRANGE AMS AND YOU LOOK AT WHAT ARE IN WEDDING BOUQUETS, QUEEN ANNE'S LACE IS THERE IN THE WEDDING BOUQETF YOU DESIRE THE PLANT, THEN IT'S NOT A WEED. IT'S VERY SUBJECTIVE. BUT MANY WEED, LIKE PERSOLAIN IS ANOTHER WEED WHICH IS VERY AGGRESSIVE WHERE THEY BASICALLY OVERTAKE WHOLE AREAS. UM, AND... SO THOSE ARE WEEDS THAT ALSO SOME PERENNIAL PLANTS ARE LIKE THAT, TOO. IF YOU LET THEM GO, THEY JUST TAKE OVER EVERYTHING. AND AS SOON AS A PLANTS IS IN A SPOT YOU DON'T WANT IT, THEN IT'S A WEED. SO...

Mary says BECAUSE MANY OF US SEEM TO BE SO OBSESSED ABOUT WEEDING AND NOT HAVING ANY KIND OF WHAT ARE CONSIDERED TO BE WEEDS IN OUR GARDENS RIGHT? IS THAT... IS THAT ATTITUDE, I DON'T KNOW; IT EASING UP A LITTLE BIT? ARE WE INCORPORATING MORE OF THOSE PLANTS THAT ARE CONSIDERED WEEDS INTO YOUR GARDENS?

Frank says YEAH, NATURAL GARDENING IS MORE POPULAR WHERE PEOPLE JUST BASICALLY CREATE A THROW IN THEIR GARDEN WHERE IT'S ALL NATURAL AND THEY ALLOW SOME WEEDS TO BE WITHIN IN THERE...

Mary says LIKE WHAT? WHAT WEEDS ARE CONSIDERED PRETTY ENOUGH TO HAVE IN THE GARDENS NOW?

Frank says THAT'S SUBJECTIVE. BUT MANY FOLIAGE TYPE WEEDS. FRIPS...

Mary says ENGLISH IVY. I WAS SURPRISED TO READ AN ARTICLE THIS, PERSON THOUGHT IT WAS IT WAS A WEED. I DIDN'T THINK IT WAS A WEED.

Frank says THAT'S WHERE IT'S SUBJECTIVE IN ITSELF. BUT IF THE WEED ARE NOT EFFECT BE... EFFECTING... THE PROBLEM IS WHEN THEY'RE EFFECTING STUFF THAT YOU JUST PLANTED. SO YOU HAVE A NEW SEEDLING THAT YOU BASICALLY NURTURED FROM NOW ALL THE WAY UNTIL MAY AND YOU PLANT THAT PLANT IN YOUR GARDEN AND YOU ALWAYS FIND THAT WEEDS GROW MORE AGGRESSIVELY PLAN... THAN THE PLANTS THEMSELVES. AND YOU HAVE TO CONTINUE TO WEED. BUT AS SOON AS THAT PLANT GROWS TO MATURITY AND FILLS UP AN AREA AND NO LONGER ALLOWS THE WEEDS TO GO INTO THAT AREA. SO USUALLY THE SPRING IS WHERE YOU KEEP ON TOP OF THE WEEDING. IT IS SEND WHERE YOU CAN HAVE WEEDS IN THE GARDEN. BUT AT THE SAME TIME, MANY MUNICIPALITIES HAVE LAWS THAT... THAT SAY THAT YOU HAVE TO KEEP YOUR GARDEN OR YOUR... OR YOUR AREA, UM, WEED FREE.

Mary says WHAT DOES THAT MEAN IF IT'S A SUNTIVE TERM?

Frank says BUT THAT'S... THAT'S WHAT YOUR NEIGHBOURS... IT'S THE DEBATE.

Mary says THAT'S HARD.

Frank says NOW TO PESTICIDE USE AND ALL THE REST MUCH IT'S A DEBATE THAT PEOPLE HAVE TO ACCEPT, UM, NATURE IN THE WAY... IN A WAY. AND THEY HAVE TO LEARNED TO LIKE THINGS. UM, AND IT'S NOT ABOUT A... ERADICATING ANYTHING. IT'S ABOUT EDUCATING PEOPLE TO ACCEPT THINGS. USE THEM PROPERLY. AND NOT TO BE SO... SO ANAL ALL THE TIME.

Mary says SO IF I LIVE IN A CERTAIN MUNICIPALITY AND I JUST LOVE TO... LOVE DANDELIONS, I COULD BE IN TROUBLE?

Frank says IF THE NEIGHBOURS COMPLAINED ENOUGH. THERE WAS A CASE IN A BARRIE AREA WHERE I LIVE AND A LADY HAD A PROPERTY AND SHE WAS WHAT SHE CALLED A NATURAL GARDENER AND HAD GARDENS, POCKETS EVERYWHERE AND, UM, AND... BUT THERE WAS A LOT OF WEEDS AND WITH THOSE WEEDS, WHAT HAPPENED IS THE NEIGHBOUR WAS GETTING AT LOVE WEEDS AND COMPLAINED TO THE MUNICIPALITY AND THE NEXT THING YOU KNOW THE MUNICIPALITY IS SAID TO DO SOMETHING WITH THIS SPACE BY THIS DATE. SO BECAUSE WE COME FROM PARED OF TIME WHERE WE WERE USED TO HAVING STRAIGHT GARDEN, SHRUB THAT IS LOOKED PERFECT, WE CAME FROM THIS PERFECT WORLD. BUT NOW NATURAL IS THE WAY IT SHOULD BE.

Mary says YEAH.

Frank says AND, YOU KNOW, BEAUTY IS ALWAYS IN THE EYE OF THE BE HOLDER. WE MIGHT THINK THAT THIS DACEY IS BEAUTIFUL. BUT I'M SURE THAT THERE ARE PEOPLE OUT THERE THAT SAY I DON'T LIKE DAISIES.

Mary says ABSOLUTELY. LET'S TAKE A CALL FROM JOE ON THE LINE FROM MISSISSAUGA.

The Caller says GOOD AFTERNOON. I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT STARTLING SEEDS ORGANIC. ANY GOOD ORGANIC MIXS AND FOR THE PROBLEM OF ROT ROOT, GOOD ORGANIC ALTERNATIVE FOR VEGETABLE AND HERBS IF YOU DIDN'T WANT TO USE THE CHEMICAL ONES.

Frank says WHEN YOU... WHEN IT COMES TO START OUT ORGANIC SEEDS, NUMBER BUN, WHEN YOU START THE SEEDS, YOU WILL SEE SEEDS THAT SAY ON THEM ORGANIC. THAT MEANS RIGHT FROM THE BEGINNING, WE'RE MAKING SURE THAT YOU'RE GETTING AN ORGANIC PRODUCT WHEN IT COME TO SEED STARTING, THERE'S MANY SEED STARTING MATERIALS NOW TOO THAT HAVE ORGANIC MIXS AND THEY'RE TOTALLY ORGANIC AND SAY IT ON THEM. WHAT WE ALREADY TOKE... SPOKE TODAY ABOUT THE DAMP OFF AND THE OTHER ALTERNATIVE BEING GARLIC AND GARLIC IS AN ORGANIC MEASURE AND ORGAN SICK THAT WONDER PLAN THAT HELPS HUMANS BUT HELPS A LOT OF PLANTS IN YOUR GARDEN AS WELL. YOU CAN USE GUARD LICK TO START OFF THE SEEDLINGS. WHEN IT COMES TO FERTILIZATION AND AFTER THE SEEDLING GETS TO TWO OR THREE-LEAF STAGE, ONCE THEY START TO GET GROWING LIKE THIS PLANT HERE, WHAT YOU CAN USE AT THAT TIME IS FISH FERTILIZER. IT'S A FISH FOOD. SAME THING THAT YOU FIND OUT OF OUR AQUARIUM AND IT'S BASICALLY IT'S A FERTILIZE THEY'RE WILL NOT BURN THE SEEDS AND IT'S ORGANIC.

Mary says HOW... HOW POPULAR IS... IS THE ORGANIC TREND. HOME GARDENS, THAT IS.

Frank says HOME GARDENS IS VERY, VERY POPULAR. FOR INSTANCE, THIS ONE. THEY'VE BEEN AROUND FOR THE 19 70'S AND THEY'RE... THEY'RE AN ORGANIC SUPPLIER, UM, OF CONTROL MEASURES.

He shows a bottle with a green cap and says This is TROUNCE, TOTALLY ORGANIC. UM, AND THIS YEAR, LAST SEASON, UM, THEY SAW A... A HUGE INCREASE IN THEIR SALES. AND THAT USUALLY IS WHEN YOU... YOU KNOW A TREND IS HAPPENING. PEOPLE ARE REALLY CONCERNED ABOUT THEIR FOOD SOURCES NOW. AND THEY'RE ALSO CONCERN ABOUT WHAT THEY'RE PUTTING INTO THEIR ENVIRONMENT. WHEN YOU BECOME AN ORGANIC GARDENER, IT'S ALSO LIKE WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT WEEDS. YOU HAVE TO ACCEPT THAT THINGS WILL NOT BE PERFECT THAT YOUR CARROT WILL NOT BE THE PERFECT-LOOKING CARAT AND THAT SOME OF THE VEGETABLES YOU HAVE WILL NOT BE PERFECT. STILL WILL BE ELIGIBLE BUT NOT PERFECT. AND THE ORGANIC THING, THE MOST IMPORTANT THING IS TO BE PREVENTIVE NOT REACTIVE. MOST PEOPLE THAT USE CHEMICAL IS BASED ON A REACTION. WHERE THEY WALK OUT AND THEY SEE THAT A PLAN HAS A DISEASE, SO YOU REACT TO IT AND YOU NEED A CHEMICAL TO GET IT UNDER CONTROL. WHEN IT COMES TO ORGANIC GARDENING, IT'S ALL ABOUT PREVENTION. START OFF WITH HEALTHY PLAN, MAKE SURE THAT YOU HAVE GOOD SOIL, BECAUSE GOOD SOIL ENSURES THAT YOU HAVE HEALTHY PLANTS. MAKING SURE THAT YOU TAKE THE TIME TO... TO USE ORGANIC MEASURES THROUGHOUT THE GROWING SEASON, FOR INSTANCE, GARLIC. WE TALKED ABOUT THAT.

Mary says RIGHT. RIGHT.

Frank says PLANTING GARLIC IN THE ROSE BED WILL RID YOURSELF OF THE PROBLEM OF AFFISM DS. BECAUSE AFFIDS DON'T LIKE GARLIC. IT WON'T ERADICATE IT BUT RID IT. ANOTHER WAY TO GET RID OF AFIDS IS USING A HOSE AND WASHING THE PLANT. ALL A MENTALITY F YOU'RE GOING TO USE A... BE AN ORGANIC GARDENER, BE PREVENTIVE AND EDUCATE YOURSELF TO KNOW WHAT MIGHT HAPPEN AND FIGURE OUT WAYS TO MAKE SURE IT DOESN'T HAPPEN.

Mary says WOULD YOU SAY THAT ORGANIC GARDENING IS MORE TIME CONSUMING? THAT THERE'S MORE CARE INVOLVED OVERALL COMPARED TO THE OTHER KIND OF GARDENING?

Frank says IT ALL DEPENDS... THE MOST IMPORTANT THING WHEN YOU DECIDE TO BECOME A GUARD ENER AND YOU WANT TO GARDEN, YOU CREATE A SPACE THAT... THAT YOU CAN MANAGE. AND IF YOU... IF YOU MAKE THE DECISION TO DO IT ORGANICALLY, ORGANIC GARDENING DOESN'T NECESSARILY TAKE MORE TIME. IT JUST TAKES MORE OF AN AWARENESS. WHAT YOU SHOULD ALWAYS DO IS ENSURE THAT THE GARDEN FITS YOU AND YOUR LIFESTYLE AND DON'T GO OUT THERE IN THE SPRING AND SAY, THIS YEAR I'LL CREATE THE BIGGEST AND BEST GARDEN EVER AND YOU DIG ALL OF THESE BEDS AND DO ALL OF THESE DIFFERENT THINGS AND THEN HALFWAY THROUGH THE ITEM... SUMMER YOU'RE A PERSON THAT GOES TO THE COTTAGE FOR THE ENTIRE SUMMER. YOU DON'T WANT TO HAVE THE EXPENSE OF HAVING SOMEONE COME IN AND MAINTAIN THE GARDEN. YOU KNOW WHAT? YOUR LAWN IS ONE OF THE LOWEST MAINTENANCE PLANTS BECAUSE, BECAUSE IF YOU HAVE A HEALTHY LAWN AND YOU TAKE CARE TO HAVE YOU CAN DO THAT ORGANICALLY IT, TAKES A LOT LESS TO JUST CUT THE LAWN THAN TO GO THROUGH AND WEED AND, UM, AND DO ALL OF THE DIFFERENT THINGS.

Mary says RIGHT. ONE THING WE DIDN'T TALK ABOUT AT ALL IS GARDENING TOOLS.

Frank says UH-HUH.

Mary says I DON'T KNOW IF WE SHOULD GET INTO THAT AT ALL AND WHETHER MAYBE THERE ARE SOME, UM, SOME BASICS, SAY, OR A TOOL THAT YOU FEEL THAT PEOPLE SHOULD REALLY HAVE BUT THEY DOAN. ANYTHING YOU WANT TO SAY ABOUT GARDENING TOOLS?

Frank says GARDENING TOOLS, WHAT YOU WANT TO DO IS WHEN YOU'RE SELECTING THEM, MAKE SURE YOU SELECT THEM FOR THE PERSON AT THAT YOU ARE. MEANING MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S MANY ERGONOMIC TOOLS OUT THERE. BECAUSE ARTHRITIS IS GENERALLY A BIG PROBLEM WITH GARDENS AND SAY WITH CARPAL TUNNEL. SO WHEN YOU'RE SLEECTING THE SHEERS, MAKE SURE THEY'RE PRUNEERS AND FIT IN YOUR HAND THE. THE BEST GARDEN TOOL FOR ME IS A FORK. A GARDEN FORK. AND THE REASON WHY I THINK EVERY GARDENER NEEDS A GARDEN FORK IS YOU CAN TURN THE SOIL OUT... OVER WITH IT AND YOU CAN DIVIDE YOUR PLANTS WITH IT AND JUST SOMETHING THAT YOU NEED A GARDEN FORK OR A SPADE, A PAIR OF PRUNEERS, UM , A HOSE ARE ALL SIMPLE THINGS THAT YOU WILL USE AND A LOT OF THE TIMES, YOU KNOW, YOU DON'T HAVE TO SPEND A LOT OF MONEY ON THEM AND YOU CAN FIND THEM AT GARAGE SALES.

Mary says EVEN BETTER. IT'S A BARGAIN THEN, RIGHT?

Frank says YEAH, SO MANY DIFFERENT TOOLS OUT THERE. DON'T GET OVERWHELMED. YOU GO OUT IN A TOOL GARDEN CENTRE, DOES YOUR... ASK YOURSELF THE QUESTION, DO I NEED THIS? WILL I USE THIS? YOU DON'T NEED EVERY TOOL IN THE BOOK. BECAUSE THERE'S THAT... THERE'S TOOLS, LET'S SAY THIS IS A PATIO RIGHT HERE, GENERALLY A PATIO IS RIGHT ALONG HERE IS THE AREA WHERE THE WEEDS SPROUT. WELL THERE'S LITTLE TOOLS THAT YOU CAN RUN ACROSS TO GET ALL OF YOUR WEEDS OUT OF THERE. WELL, I DON'T THINK YOU NEED IT.

Mary says NOT NECESSARY. OKAY. LET'S SQUEEZE ANOTHER CALL HERE. M... NOW TO PETERBOROUGH.

The Caller says YES, I'M LOOKING FOR THE FASTEST GROWING VINE THERE IS TO PUT IN A SOUTHERN EXPOSURE TO COVER A trellis.

Frank says HONEY SUCK IS A REALLY GOOD EASY FLOWERING VINE. BUT MY SUGGESTION IS IT STILL TAKES TIME FOR IT TO REALLY MATURE AND GET GOING. MY SUGGESTION IS TO PLANT A HONEY SUCKLE OR YOU CAN SEVERAL LACE IS A FAST-GROWING VINE. PLANT THEM IN BUT THIS YEAR IS EITHER GET SWEET PEAS AND MORNING GLOWERS AND PUT IT IN WITH THE HONEY SUCKLE OR THE SILVER LACE, AND THAT'S A FAST-GROWING ANNUAL VINE THAT WILL FILL THAT TRA L L AS THIS YEAR AND THEN THE HONEY SUCKLE WILL COME IN TO PLAY OVER ABOUT TWO TO THREE YEARS, THE SILVER LACE. SOMETIMES WITHIN A SEASON THEY WILL FILL. BUT THAT'S A WAY IF THIS YEAR YOU SAY I WANT TO FILL THIS BECAUSE MY NEIGHBOUR'S LOOKING THIS MY BACKYARD ALL THE TIME BUT I WANT IT TO LOOK PRETTY, THAT'S A GOOD THING WHERE YOU CAN USE ANNUALS STATEMENT WHERE YOU ARE... SAME WHERE YOU'RE ESTABLISHING A PLANT.

Mary says THAT'S NICE. PRIVACY BUT DECK ARE ATIVELY. TELL US ABOUT CANADA BLOOMS BECAUSE THAT'S COMING UP AND A SHOW THAT A THE LOVE GARDENERS LOOK FORWARD TO.

Frank says TORONTO'S FLOWER AND PLAN SHOW. IT STARTS ON WEDNESDAY. WIG THING ABOUT THIS SHOW IS THE A.M. OF EDUCATION THAT YOU CAN GET THERE. EVERY DAY, SO MANY DIFFERENT SEMINARS THAT ARE THERE FOR EVERYTHING... I SPEAK ON THURSDAY ABOUT FRUGAL GARDENING TO YOU CAN LEARN ABOUT LANDSCAPE DESIGN TO CONTAINER GARDENING, WHAT'S NEW FOR 2002. AT THE SAME TIME, IT'S THE ONLY PLACE REALLY IN THE WORLD WHERE SIX ACRES OF GARDENS ARE CREATED INSIDE THE METRO TORONTO CONVENTION CENTRE.

Mary says AND THEY'RE BEAUTIFUL.

Frank says THEY'RE BEAUTIFUL AND IT GOES... THEY GO THROUGH ALL OF THIS WORK TO CREATE THAT. TO CREATE THESE GARDENS, IT'S BASICALLY CANADA'S BEST LANDSCAPERS AND LANDSCAPE PRODUCT IN ONE AREA. IT'S... IT'S ONE OF THE BEST SHOWS. BEEN RATED TOP FIVE ACROSS THE WORLD.

Mary says REALLY. AND YOU SAID YOU'RE THERE ON THURSDAY. YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT FRUGAL GARDENING S THAT BUDGET GARDENING.

Frank says YEAH.

Mary says NOT A THE LOVE MONEY.

Frank says YEAH, FRUGALITY IS ALWAYS KEY AND BASICALLY FIGURING OUT HOW THING IN... THAT YOU HAVE IN YOUR OWN HOME, HOW YOU CAN USE THEM IN THE GARDEN AND THE ONE THING ABOUT CANADA BLM , A NON-PROFIT ORGANIZATION. ALL PROFIT FROM CANADA BLOOMS GO BACK INTO HORTICULTURAL PROJECTS THROUGHOUT THE CITY OF TORONTO AND ONTARIO.

Mary says WONDERFUL. THANK YOU AGAIN FRANK FOR BRINGING IN ALL OF THESE PLANT AND SHARING LOTS OF GREAT ADVICE.

Frank says THANK YOU.

Mary says AND I'LL TELL YOU HOW MY BULBS DO.

Frank says I'LL BE CHECKING ON YOU.

Mary says THANKS A LOT. GOOD LUCK WITH CANADA BLOOMS. FRANK IS A HORTICULTURALIST FROM BRADFORD GREENHOUSES. IF YOUR QUESTIONS WANT ANSWERED THIS AFTERNOON, YOU CAN ALWAYS E-MAIL HIM AT...

A slate reads "Frank Gerragine, bgh@primus.ca."
Then, it changes to "Canada Blooms, Metro Toronto Convention Centre. March 13-17."

Mary continues FOR YOUR PRIZE PACKS, INCLUDING THE PASSS TO CANADA BLOOMS WHICH RUNS AT THE METRO TORONTO CONVENTION CENTRE FROM MARCH 13TH-17TH, THE WINNERS ARE JOE IN MISSISSAUGA, CAREY IN TORONTO, PAM IN BELLEVILLE, UM, JIM IN TORONTO AND CATHY. CONGRATULATIONS. YOU'LL RECEIVE A COPY ALSO OF "THE POTTED GARDEN" BY BECKY FOX. COMING UM, WE HAVE AN AMAZING ICE SCULPTURE. YOU WON'T WANT TO MISS THIS. AND IT HAS... HAS BEEN SEEN AROUND THE WORLD SO DON'T GO AWAY.

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An ad plays for TV show Heartbeat at 9 pm.
Then an ad plays for 8 pm show Saturday Night at the Movies.

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Back in the studio, Mary says IF YOU EVER WOBD ERRED ABOUT THE POWER OF THE INTERNET BE HERE'S A STORY THAT SAYS IT ALL. OVER THE PAST WOULD WEEKS, THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE AROUND THE WORLD HAVE RECEIVED THIS PICTURE.

A picture appears captioned "Courtesy: Timmins Daily Press." It shows an ice sculpture of an angel resting against a firefighter who forlornly holds an American flag.

Mary continues TAKE A LOOK AT IT. BY E-MAIL. IT'S A PHOTOGRAPH OF A REMARKABLE ICE SCULPTURE MUCH THAT'S RIGHT. IT'S AN ICE COUPLETURE. HARD TO BELIEVE. AND IT'S CREATED BY DARLENE RASACO FROM SOUTH PORCUPINE NEAR TIMMINS, ONTARIO, AND SHE CALLS IT "FIRE INTO ICE." IT'S A NEW YORK CITY FIREMAN AT GROUND ZERO BEING CONFRONTED BY AN ANGEL. THE RESPONSE TO THIS IMAGE HAS BEEN TRULY AMAZING. IT EVEN HAS ITS OWN WEBSITE AND RIGHT NOW, WE DO HAVE ITS ARTIST, DARLENE, SHE'S ON THE LINE FROM HER HOME IN SOUTH PORCUPINE. HELLO, DARLENE.

A caption appears on screen. It reads "Darlene Racicot. 'Fire and ice' sculpture."

A picture shows Darlene sitting at a computer. She's in her forties, with long brown hair.

Darlene says HELLO.

Mary says THANK YOU FOR JOINING US TODAY. WHAT AN AMAZING WORK. CONGRATULATIONS.

Darlene says THANK YOU.

Mary says I UNDERSTAND THAT YOU RECEIVED E-MAILS FROM ALL OVER THE WORLD. .JAPAN, ISRAEL, SWEDEN. AUSTRALIA. DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA HOW MANY E-MAILS YOU ACTUALLY RECEIVED?

Darlene says PROBABLY WELL OVER 1500 RIGHT NOW. WE'RE KIND OF LOSING COUNT BECAUSE WE'RE STARTING TO HAVE TO... TO PRINCIPAL SOME OUT BECAUSE THE COMPUTER IS GETTING BOGGED DOWN.

Mary says I CAN IMAGINE. AND I'M SURE YOU HAVE SOME HELP TO ANSWER THESE.

Darlene says NO, I'M MANAGEING IT MYSELF. MY HUSBAND'S HELPING ME WITH SOME OF THEM.

Mary says WHAT ARE THESE PEOPLE SAYING TO YOU?

Darlene says WELL, MOST ARE... ARE... MOST ARE JUST THINKING THAT... THAT I... I DID SOMETHING THAT TOUCHED THEIR HEARTS AND... AND MADE THEM REMEMBER SEPTEMBER 11 TH AND IT'S CONFRONTING THEM IN SOME WAY.

Mary says UH-HUH. IT'S BEEN REALLY OVERWHELMING, HANDLED IT, FOR YOU ASK YOUR FAMILY?

Darlene says EXTREMELY.

Mary says LET'S GO BACK TO THE BEGINNING FOR A MOMENT. TELL US HOW YOU CAME TO MAKE FIRE INTO ICE.

Darlene says FIRST, I SHOULD SAY I DIN TITLE FIRE TO ICE. THAT CAME FROM SKY AINGE AND HE WILL THAT WILL COME FROM HER WHEN YOU TALK TO HER, I'M SURE. BUT I SAW THIS PICTURE THAT I RECEIVED FROM AN E-MAIL FROM A GIRL FRIEND OF MINE WHICH HAD A FIREFIGHTER WITH HIS HEAD DOWN AND AN ANGEL ON HIS SHOULDER. UM, AND THAT'S... THAT'S WHERE I GOT THE IMAGE FROM.

Mary says UH-HUH. NOW, I UNDERSTAND THAT THIS ISN'T THE FIRST TIME THAT YOU HAVE DONE AN ICE SCULPTURE, NO.

Darlene says NO, THIS IS THE SIXTH SCULPTURE THAT I'VE DONE. BUT THEY'RE NOT ICE SCULPTURES, THEY'RE SNOW SCULPTURES.

Mary says THEY'RE SNOW SCULPTURES.

Darlene says A LOT OF PEOPLE TEND TO THINK IT'S ICE SCULPTURES, WITH YOU IT'S... BUT IT'S COMPLETELY OUT OF SNOW.

Mary says TELL US HOW YOU MADE THIS.

Darlene says WELL, I GET A COMPANY TO COME WITH A BACK HOE AND MAKE ME A BIG PILE OF SNOW IN MY FRONT YARD AND THEN I TAKE A SHOVEL AND... AND THE SNOW SCOOP AND, UM, AND A HATCHET AND, UM, AND I START CARVING IT OUT AND I USE A... USE A PIE SERVER TO DO MOST OF MY FINE DETAIL INTO IT.

Mary says A PIE SERVER.

Darlene says A PIE SERVER.

Mary says OKAY.

Darlene says AND I USE A LOT OF WATER, WHICH I CARRY OUT OF MY HOUSE FROM MY BATHTUB IN FIVE GALLON PAILS. THAT'S PRETTY MUCH ALL THERE IS TO IT.

Mary says HOW LONG DID IT TAKE YOU TO DO THIS... TO MAKE THIS?

Darlene says ABOUT 250 HOURS.

Mary says SO I... I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WORK LIKE AN EIGHT-HOUR DAY; THAT ABOUT A MONTH?

Darlene says YEAH, I STARTED ON THE 10TH OF JANUARY AND I COMPLETED IT ON 7TH OF FEBRUARY. 6TH OF THE FEBRUARY. SORRY.

Mary says YOU KNOW, IT'S AMAZING THAT... THAT YOU WERE ABLE TO USE REAL EMOTION INTO SOMETHING... I UNDERSTAND THAT YOU ENTERED THIS IN A CARNIVAL THAT YOU MADE... HOW DID...

Darlene says EVERYONE THAT CAME HERE TO SEE IT, IT WAS THE FIRST TIME THAT I'VE EVER SEEN PEOPLE COME FROM... AND NOT SAY ANYTHING. EVERYONE JUST STOOD AND CRIED OR... YOU KNOW, PEOPLE WERE STANDING ON THE STREET AND NO ONE WAS STAYING ANYTHING... SAYING ANYTHING.

Mary says AND JUST HOW BIG IS THE SCULPTURE?

Darlene says UM, IT'S PROBABLY ABOUT 15 OR SO FEET LONG AND IT'S PROBABLY 10 FEET AT THE TOP OF THE WINGS OF THE ANGEL.

Mary says WOW. YOU MENTIONED EARLIER ABOUT SKY. TELL ME ABOUT HER.

Darlene says WELL, THIS... THIS IS AN AMAZING WOMAN, CONTACTED ME, I BELIEVE IT WAS THE 22ND OF FEBRUARY. AT 11 IN THE... 11 O'CLOCK IN THE MORNING FROM NEW MEXICO AND SHE HAD BEEN TRYING TO FIND ME. SHE HAD RECEIVED THE PICTURE THROUGH THE E-MAIL AND WATTS TRYING... AND WAS TRYING TO TRACK DOWN THE PERSON WHO DID IT AND SHE WASN'T STOPPING UNTIL SHE FOUND ME.

Mary says WOW. I BELIEVE WE HAVE SKY, WHICH IS HER INTERNET NAME. SHE'S ONLINE FROM HER HOME IN NEW MEXICO. HELLO, SKY. ARE YOU THERE.

A picture shows a woman in her forties with dark hair smiling.

A caption reads "On the phone: Skyangel."

Sky says YES, I AM. GOOD MORNING.

Mary says GOOD AFTERNOON HERE. GOOD MORNING TO YOU. WHEN WAS IT YOU FIRST SAW THE PICTURE OF DARLENE'S SCULPTURE?

Sky says I GOT IT LIKE A LOT OF PEOPLE AROUND THE COUNTRY AND MAYBE AROUND THE WORLD, I GOT IT IN... IT IN AN E-MAIL ON THE 22ND OF FEBRUARY. AND THE MOMENT... AND THE MOMENT I SAW IT, I STOPPED AND I INSTANTLY KNEW THAT I HAD TO TAKE THIS PICTURE AND... AND MAKE IT INTO A WEB PAGE. NOT KNOWING WHO CREATED IT. I... I... ALL I KNEW WAS IT CAME FROM A PLACE CALLED TIMMONS, WHO I NEVER HEARD OF. TIMMONS, ONTARIO. AND IT DID SAY IT WAS CREATED BY A FEMALE, BECAUSE IT SAID HER. UM, AND, YOU KNOW, SHE OR HER OR WHATEVER. AND SO I CREATED THE PAGE IMMEDIATELY. AND FOLDED IT UP AND PUT IT ON THE WEBSITE AND GRABBED A HOLD OF MY MAIL LIST, WHICH IS ABOUT 1200 PEOPLE. AND SENT A LETTER TO EVERYBODY ON MY LIST, AND GIVING THEM THE DIRECT URL, YOU KNOW, THE EXACT WEB ADDRESS TO GET INTO IT. I HAD WRITTEN ON IT, THAT... THAT IT'S... IF ANYBODY KNOWS WHO CREATED THIS MASTERPIECE, PLEASE E-MAIL ME, AND THAT WAS THE 22ND. SO I SAW IT ON THE 22ND AND IN E-MAIL AND PRODUCED THAT FIRST PAGE.

Mary says RIGHT. SO HOW WAS IT THAT YOU FOUND OUT WHERE SHE WAS? HOW TO GET IN TOUCH WITH HER?

Sky says BECAUSE THIS... THIS HAPPENED TO ME ON SOMETHING ELSE ONE TIME. I RECEIVED SOMETHING IN E-MAIL. IT WASN'T A PHOTO BUT A TEXT. BUT IT JUST STRUCK ME SO... SO MANY IN THE HEART AND IN THE SPIRIT THAT... THAT I CREATED A PAGE FOR THAT. AGAIN, WENT THROUGH THE SAME PROCESS AND THAT'S... WENT TO THE MAILING ADDRESS T TOOK ME 143,000 HITS UNTIL... ON THAT PAGE, BECAUSE I ALWAYS PUT A HIT COUNTER ON IT, UNTIL I FOUND THE PERSON WHO HAD WRITTEN IT. THAT PAGE NOW IS... IS ABOUT A HALF A MILLION. UM, SO I WOKE UP ON MORNING OF THE 23RD, AND I... AND I WOKE UP AT 4 IN THE MORNING, I'M A VERY EARLY RISEER AND I SAID I'M NOT GOING TO WAIT FOR 143,000 HITS TO FIND OUT WHO DID THIS. AND I... I IMMEDIATELY GOT ON THE PHONE, CALLED INFORMATION ONTARIO, AND ASKED FOR TIMMONS AND, UM, AND ASKED... IS THERE A NEWSPAPER THERE, AND THANK GOODNESS IT'S CALLED THE TIMMONS PRESS. BECAUSE IF IT WAS CALLED LIKE THE DAILY NEWSPAPER, YOU KNOW, COULDN'T HAVE FOUND IT. GOT THEM AND... AND, AND A GAL ANSWERED THE PHONE. NOW 8:30 THERE, 6:30 MY TIME AND SHE TOLD ME THAT I WOULD HAVE TO TALK TO THE EDITORIAL DEPARTMENT AND THEY WERE CLOSED. AND I SAID... THEY WOULDN'T BE IN UNTIL MONDAY. I TOLD HER, NO, NO, NO I CAN'T WAIT UNTIL MONDAY. AND PLEASE FIND ME SOMEBODY IN THAT NEWSPAPER THAT CAN FIND ME SOMETHING.

Mary says SO NOW YOU EVENTUALLY, SKY, YOU EVENTUALLY THROUGH YOUR PERSISTENCE FOUND HER. AND TELL ME WHAT ENDED UP, UM, GOING ON TO YOUR WEBSITE? WHAT IS ON THERE?

Sky says WELL, UM, DO YOU HAVE THE, UM, THE WEB ADDRESS TO GET INTO IT?

Mary says WE WANT YOU TO JUST DESCRIBE IT FOR US. TELL US.

Sky says WELL, THE THING ONCE YOU GO ON TO THE FIRST PAGE, THAT'S THE ORIGINAL PAGE, BUT ONCE I FOUND DARLENE AND I FOUND HER THAT NEXT DAY AND SPOKE TO HER, I ALSO TOOK THE TEXT THAT WAS FROM THE ONLINE PAPER FOR THE TIMMONS PRESS. AND THAT BECAME THE SECOND PAGE. ALSO I HAD SAID TO DAR LOAN ONCE I WAS IN TOUCH WITH HER, I SAID, PLEASE WRITE... DARLENE, ONCE I WAS IN TOUCH WITH HER, I SAID, PLEASE WRITE ME AND TELL ME HOW YOU CREATED THIS THING.

Mary says WHAT PICTURES DID YOU PUT ON IT?

Sky says WELL, THEN SHE WAS TELLING ME SHE HAD MORE PICTURE AND I SAID TO EMPLOYEES E-MAIL THEM TO ME AND SHE DATED IMMEDIATELY AND THAT BECAME THE THIRD PAGE. I THEN TOOK ALL OF THE PICTURES AND I RESIZED THEM AND CROPPED THEM AND CREATED WHAT THEN BECAME THE THIRD PAGE. AND SO... SO THAT... THAT PARTICULAR PAGE ABOUT DARLENE'S WONDERFUL SCULPTURE STARTED AS ONE PAGE. BUT IT'S NOW THREE.

Pictures of the huge sculpture seen from different angles flash by.

Mary says WHAT KIND OF REACTION HAVE YOU HAD TO YOUR WEBSITE?

Sky says THE SAME AS DARLENE. I AM COMPLETELY SWAMPED WITH E-MAIL. UM, PEOPLE ARE... ARE JUST, UM, ARE JUST WRITING ME. THEY'RE CRYING WHEN THAT... WHEN THEY'RE WRITING. THEY'RE SAYING HOW MUCH IT TOUCHED THEM. THEY MIGHT HAVE... HAVE FIREFIGHTERS, OR POLICEMEN OR E M S PEOPLE IN THEIR FAMILY, THEY'RE FORWARDING IT TO THEIR ENTIRE MAILING LIST. AND, UM SO, IT'S GROWING EXPONENTIALLY AND SEEMS TO BE GROWING AT ABOUT 3,000 HITS A DAY.

Mary says DARLENE, WE'RE ALMOST OUT OF TIME, BUT WHAT DO YOU THINK IT IS ABOUT YOUR SCULPTURE THAT TOUCHES PEOPLE?

Darlene says OH, WELL I THINK IT HAS A LIFE OF ITS OWN.

Mary says YEAH, AND I THINK... I GUESS IT WILL BE CONTINUED ON THROUGH THE INTERNET AROUND THE WORLD.

Darlene says YEP.

Mary says THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR BEING A PART OF THE SHOW TODAY. DARLENE CREATED THIS REMARKABLE ICE SCULPTURE CALLED "FIRE INTO ICE" AND SHE LIVES IN SOUTH PORCUPINE, ONTARIO and SKY, THAT'S HER ONLINE NAME, CREATED A WEBSITE DEDICATE TODAY THE SCULPTURE FROM HER HOME IN NEW MEXICO. FOR LINKS TO THE PICTURE, YOU CAN VISIT OUR WEBSITE AT...

A slate reads "For more pictures, www.tvo.org/moretolife."

Mary continues NOW TOMORROW, WE'LL HAVE HELP FROM A NUTRITION EXPERT LESLEY BECK AND GIVES US STRATEGIES ON HOW TO MAKE THE DIET WORK FOR US. WHETHER IT'S INCREASING ENERGY OR BOOSTING OUR IMMUNE SYSTEM.

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