Transcript: Ghost Stories, Ghosts, Easy Costumes - Planet Parent clip | Oct 31, 2001

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A title appears inside the shape of a house: More to Life. Words spin against a red and orange background: Health, Family, Home, Money, Fitness, Life. Fast clips show images related to the previous concepts, such as a dollar bill, a wheat field, and strands of DNA.

In animation, the title appears inside the shape of a house: "More to life."

Then, Mary Ito sits in a studio decorated with fake cobwebs, Jack-o-lanterns and a cloth in the shape of a ghost.

Mary is in her late thirties, with short black hair and bangs. She's wearing a black cardigan over a red shirt.

Mary says BOO! HI. I'M MARY ITO. WELCOME TO "MORE TO LIFE." IT IS HALLOWEEN. WE HAVE A VERY SCARY SHOW FOR YOU TODAY. LATER ON WE'RE GOING TO HELP YOU WITH WHAT REALLY TERRIFIES YOU qmj LAST-MINUTEq COSTUMES F.YOU'RE IN A PICKLE WE'LL HAVExD GREATñr IDEAS FOR YOU. WE'LL ALSO ANALYZE THE SCIENCE OF GHOSTS. SPEAKING OF GHOSTS IF THE PROSPECT OF ONE IN YOUR ATTIC ABSOLUTELY GIVES YOU THE CREEPS OUR FIRST GUEST WILL NOT PUT YOUR MIND AT EASE. JOHN ROBERT COLUMBO IS THE AUTHOR OF SEVERAL BOOKS ON THE SUPERNATURAL INCLUDING "MYSTERIES OF ONTARIO" AND "GHOST STORIES OF CANADA."

John is in his sixties, clean-shaven, with short, receding white hair. He's wearing a beige jacket, a green shirt and a printed pink tie.
Two books by John sit on a table. One reads "Mysteries of Ontario" and features a picture of an orange light on a hilltop, and the other reads "Ghost stories of Canada", and features a drawing of a spooky-looking forest.

Mary continues IF YOU HAVE HAD A SPOOKY EXPERIENCE, SOMETHING SPINE-TINGLING THAT HAS HAPPENED IN YOUR LIFE WE WOULD LOVE TO HEAR FROM YOU. GIVE US A CALL TODAY. THE NUMBER IN TORONTO TO DIAL IS 416-484-2727. WE'LL ALSO TAKE YOUR LONG-DISTANCE CALL AT 1-888-411-1234.

A caption reads "416-484-2727. 1-888-411-1234."

Mary continues AND WE WEAN HAVE THREE BOOKS TO GIVE AWAY SO YOU MAY BE ONE OF OUR LUCKY WINNERS. THANKS FOR COMING IN, JOHN ROBERT.

John says THANK YOU. THESE HORROR FIGURES BEHIND YOU.

Mary says MAYBE WE'LL GET A BOOK.

John says IT GIVES ME HOPE.

Mary says FOR THE FIRST TIME IN 46 YEARS WE ARE GOING TO HAVE A FULL MOON FOR HALLOWEEN. I'M JUST WONDERING IF A FULL MOON IS EXTRA CONDUCIVE FOR GHOSTS.

The caption changes to "John Robert Colombo. 'Ghost stories of Canada.'"

John says FOR SURE. FOR SURE. THE MOON IS THE MYSTERIOUS SIGN. IT IS A SIGN OF NIGHT.;0@3 YOU DON'T SEE IT DURING THE DAY UNLESS YOU'RE AN ASTRONOMER AND YOU KNOW WHERE IT IS. ALSO, IT'S THE HALLOWEEN OF THE PEGAN TRADITION. LONG BEFORE THERE WAS CHRISTIANITY. LONG BEFORE THERE WAS HINDUISM THERE WAS PEGANISM. THIS TIME OF THE YEAR WAS SPECIALLY HONORED AS THE WITCH'S SABBATH.

Mary says THE WITCH'S SABBATH?

John says YES. THERE'S A MOUNTAIN IN GERMANY. THE HARTZ MOUNTAIN. YOU CLIMB UP TO THE TOP OF THE MOUNTAIN AND DEAD RETURN TO LIFE THIS. IS THE SUPER... THE SUPERSTITION OF THE GERMAN PEOPLE OF THAT REGION. YOU SEE A PARADE OF YOUR AN ANESTERS, AND PREDECESSORS AS THEY PASS THROUGH YOUR EYES.

Mary says LET'S GET IN TO THE DEAD RETURNING TO LIFE AND CLARIFICATION. IN YOUR BOOK YOU TALK ABOUT GHOSTS AND APPARITIONS. WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE TWO?

John says THERE'S NO SCIENTIFIC DISTINCTION BETWEEN THIS. I WANT TO STATE RIGHT OFF THAT I DON'T BELIEVE IN GHOSTS AND I DON'T DISBELIEVE IN GHOSTS. I BELIEVE IN GHOST STORIES. I BELIEVE PEOPLE TELLING ME THESE STORIES ARE TELLING ME SOMETHING ACCURATE. AND YOU CAN DIVIDE THE STORIES. SPIRIT STORIES MAY BE BETTER. GHOSTS ARE UNKNOWN FORMS THAT APPEAR. ENTITIES THAT ARE percent percentN PLACES WHERE YOU DON'T EXPECT THEM. APPARITIONS, HOWEVER, ARE GHOSTLY SPEC TO RS THAT APPEAR OF PEOPLE WHOSE NAMES YOU KNOW. ANCESTORS, PREDECESSORS, SO ON. IT'S AN APRIL RIG OF SOMEONE. IT'S AN APPARITION OF SOMEONE. A CRISIS APPARITION. LET'S SAY YOU HAVE AN AUNT MATILDA AND SHE'S DYING. SHE'S 99 YEARS OF AGE. IT'S)NOT UNEXPECTED. SHE'S DYING IN THE NORTHWEST TERRITORIES, LET'S SAY, RIGHT NOW, AND YOU FEEL IT. YOU FEEL A COLD COMING OVER YOU. YOU... OUT OF THE CORNER OF YOUR EYE YOU SEE THIS MYSTERIOUS FIGURE OF A WOMAN. IT'S YOUR AUNT. YOU LOOK AT THE TIME. YOU SAY IT'S SIX MINUTES AFTER 1:00. YOU MAKE A NOTE OF THAT. ABOUT TWO HOURS LATER SOMEONE PHONES YOU AND SAYS YOUR AUNT DIED. I'M SORRY TO TELL YOU. YOU SAY WHAT TIME? THE PERSON PHONING YOU TELLS YOU, WELL, IT HAPPENED AT 11:30 OR 11:10. YOU THINK THAT'S ODD. YOU REALIZE THAT'S A DIFFERENTIAL.

Mary says VERY HEARD OF THOSE STORIES. YOU'VE INVESTIGATED THEM. HOW COMMON IS THAT KIND OF STORY?

John says WELL, WE CAN'T ATTACHE NUMBER TO IT, BUT VERY IN MY FILES, WHICH ARE CONCERNED ENTIRELY WITH CANADIAN EPISODES WITH THIS OVER 100 CRISIS APPARITIONS. I'LL VENTURE TO SAY THIS... I BET YOU'RE GOING TO GO TO A PARTY IN THE NEXT WEEK OR SO.

Mary says WISHFUL THINKING BUT, OK, MAYBE.

John says A HOSTIS OF A MAJOR SHOW LIKE THIS, YOU SAY ANYONE HERE HAVE YOU SEEN A GHOST? NOBODY HAS SEEN A GHOST. ALL RIGHT. HOW MANY OF YOU KNOW SOMEBODY WHO HAS SEEN A GHOST? YOU KNOW WHAT? EVERYBODY WILL SAY OH, WELL MY AUNT, MY BROTHER, SISTER, COUSIN HAS SEEN A GHOST AND TOLD ME THE STORY OF IT. IT'S VERY PECULIAR. IF YOU SAY WELL, I'D LIKE TO HAVE THE AUNT PHONE MEN AND GIVE ME THE STORY. THE AUNT DOES. CHANCES ARE ONE IN 10 TURNS OUT TO BE A CRISIS APPARITION. SOMEONE APPEARING AT THE POINT OF DEATH THROUGH SOMEONE ELSE ELSEWHERE.

Mary says THERE'S A GREAT STORY OF THAT IN YOUR BOOK, THE WINARD APPARITION. TELL BUS THAT.

John says THE WINARD APPARITION IS PROBABLY THE BEST KNOWN GHOST STORY IN CANADA. IT TAKES PLACE IN SYDNEY, NOVA SCOTIA, AND IT TAKES PLACE IN THE QUARTERS OF GEORGE WINWARD WHO IS AN OFFICER WITH THE BRITISH ARMY. HE'S ENTERTAINING ANOTHER FELLOW OFFICER WITHIN THE QUARTERS. THERE'S ONE ENTRANCE AND EXIT. THE DOOR IS BOLTED FROM THE INSIDE. THERE'S NO WINDOW, OK? SO YOU'RE IN TWO ROOMS FULLY ENCLOSED.

Mary says MM-HMM.

John says AS THEY'RE TALKING AND, PERHAPS, DRINKING A BIT, GEORGE IS STARTLED. HE SAYS WHAT'S THAT? HE POINTS TO SOMETHING THAT'S MOVING ACROSS THE ROOM. HIS FRIEND SAYS WHO ARE YOU, SIR? BECAUSE THIS FORM THAT THEY'RE SEEING DRESSED IN CIVILIAN CLOTHES HAS THE MILITARY BEARING AND IS WALKING ACROSS THE ROOM. SHOULDN'T BE IN THE ROOM. DISAPPEARS THROUGH THE FAR WALL.

Mary says RIGHT.

John says NOW, THE FAR WALL HAS A LITTLE DOOR IN IT THAT LEADS TO THE NEXT ROOM, BUT THE NEXT ROOM IS TOTALLY ENCLOSED.

Mary says RIGHT.

John says SO THE TWO OF THEM GET UP, STARTLED, WALK INTO THE NEXT ROOM TO SEE HOW COULD THIS PERSON WALK THROUGH THE WALL? THEY'RE NOT THERE. THEY SEARCH THE ROOM.

Mary says AND THERE'S NO WAIVE GETTING OUT?

John says NO.
THEY SEARCH THE ROOM, THEY CHECK THE BOLT ON THE DOOR. THEY LOOK OUT INTO THE HALL. THEY BEGIN TO QUIZ PEOPLE. HAVE YOU SEEN A DISTINGUISHED GENTLEMAN, A MILITARY BEARING BUT WEARING CIVILIAN CLOTHES? NO, NOBODY. THE FUNNY THING IS WINWARD SAYS THAT WAS MY BROTHER, JOHN. I DISTINCTLY RECALL THE FEATURES. IT IS THE BEARING AND THE DRESS AND SO ON.

Mary says MM-HMM.

John says WELL, THERE'S A MAIL DELIVERY EVERY THREE WEEKS BY PACKET, MAIL PACKET. THE LETTER ARRIVES TO THE SENIOR OFFICER. IT SAYS PLEASE INFORM GEORGE WINWARD THAT HIS BROTHER, JOHN, DIED ON SUCH AND SUCH A DATE. THAT CORE RESPONDS TO THE DAY, TIME OF THE APPARITION. THIS IS WRITTEN UP BY THE OTHER GENTLEMAN IN THE ROOM SIR JAMES COLTE, WHO TURN YOU HAD OUT TO BE THE GOVERNOR OF THE PROVINCE OF NOVA SCOTIA.

Mary says SEE, THAT'S WHY I FIND THAT SO INTERESTING BECAUSE THERE WAS A WITNESS.

John says THERE WAS A WITNESS.

Mary says SOB OFTEN WE'LL HEAR ABOUT GHOST STORIES. BE ONE PERSON AND THAT PERSON'S WORD.

John says AND YOU CAN'T GO ANYWHERE WITH IT. YOU SAY THAT'S WHAT HAPPENS. THERE'S NO PROOF. NOW, THERE'S NO PROOF TODAY THAT THIS OCCURRED. MAYBE IT'S A FAMILY STORY, YOU KNOW? A LEGEND. KIND OF A MEMORY. THAT'S WITH A FOLKLORISTS CALL THIS. YOU TALK ABOUT THIS WITH YOUR FAMILY MEMBERS. BUT I BELIEVE SIR JOHN COPE SET IT DOWN THE WAY HE REMEMBERED IT YEARS EARLIER.

Mary says MM-HMM.

John says AND I HAVE HUNDREDS OF THESE STORIES IN MY COLLECTION.

Mary says OK. I THINK WE HAVE ANOTHER ONE TO ADD TO THE LIST. A GHOST STORY FROM NICOLE. HI, NICOLE. HOW ARE YOU?

The Caller says I'M GREAT.

Mary says HAVE YOU ONE FOR US?

The Caller says I DO, ACTUALLY. I HAVE TWO SHORT ONES. MY AUNT USED TO LIVE ON 3rd STREET IN DOWNTOWN TORONTO. WHERE HER HOUSE IS THEY SAID THERE WAS AN OLD CEMETERY, A PRISON CEMETERY THAT WAS BURIED UNDERNEATH IT.
ONE MORNING WHEN I WAS 8 YEARS OLD I WOKE UP. MY COUSIN WAS 3. WE WERE SLEEPING IN THE SAME ROOM. SHE WOKE UP SCREAMING. I WOKE UP TO HER CRYING. I LOOKED OVER THERE. WAS A MAN DRESSED THERE, ALL IN CHAINS. OBVIOUSLY, WE RUN DOWN SCREAMING OUR HEADS OFF TO MY AUNT. MY AUNT SAID THAT... SHE GOES, OH, WELL, HE HAD TO COME UP FROM THE BASEMENT BECAUSE THIS WAS THE DAY THAT HE DIED.

Mary says EGWWW.

The Caller says IT TOTALLY FREAKED US OUT. I WAS 8. IT WASN'T SAYING A STORY. I WAS THERE. ANOTHER MY OTHER AUNT. NOT BY THE SAME FAMILY RELATIONS. HER SISTER HAD DIED SUDDENLY BY VIOLENCE QUITE A FEW YEARS AGO. HER SISTER HAD A 9-MONTH-OLD WAY MY AUNT TOOK CARE OF THE BABY GIRL. EVERY NIGHT AROUND MID DLS NIGHT ALL YOU WOULD HEAR... YOU WOULD WAKE UP TO THE BABY SINGING. SHE WOULD BE ROCKING IN HER CRADLE BACK AND FORTH AND BACK AND FORTH. SO THIS KIND OF SCARED THE FAMILY A LITTLE BIT. THEY CALLED THE PRIEST IN TOP COME AND BLESS THE HOUSE. THE PRIEST CAME SEVERAL TIMES. IT BE DIDN'T ACTUALLY STOP UNTIL THE CHILD WAS ALMOST 2 YEARS OLD WHEN I GUESS HER MOM HAD FIGURED THAT THE CHILD WAS WELL TAKEN CARE OF, SHE DIDN'T NEED HER ANYMORE AND SHE LEFT HER. JUST TOOK CARE OF HER IN A DIFFERENT WAY. EVERY NIGHT AT MIDNIGHT THE CRADLE WOULD BE ROCKING BACK AND FORTH. THE BABY WOULD BE SWINGING.

Mary says THOSE ARE TWO STORIES.

John says IF NICOLE WANTS TO ADD HER TELEPHONE NUMBER WITH THE OPERATOR.

Mary says ADD THEM TO YOUR NEXT BOOK.

John says AND THE FACT THAT NICOLE DID NOT KNOW THERE WAS THE TRADITION IN THE HOUSE OF THIS PRISONER IN CHAINS.

Mary says RIGHT.

John says WHERE DID IT COME FROM? WHY DIDN'T THE MOTHER WARN THE CHILD?

Mary says I LIKE THAT THAT IS THE GUY FROM THE BASEMENT. HE'S MAKING PANCAKES. DON'T WORRY ABOUT IT.

John says COMES ONCE EVERY 100 YEARS.

Mary says IT MAKES ME THINK NOW THAT NICOLE HAS TWO STORIES THAT HAVE BEEN CONNECTED TO HER. DOES IT HAPPEN THAT... I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S A FAMILY OR A KIND OF PERSON THAT IS MORE OPEN TO THESE KINDS OF THINGS HAPPENING?

John says YOU'RE PUTTING YOUR FINGER ON AN INTERESTING FACT. NICOLE IS A FRENCH NAME. SHE TALKED ABOUT A PRIEST COMING IN. A ROMAN-CATHOLIC ELEMENT. IS THERE IRISH, BRITISH, THE KELTS. THE SCOTS AS WELL HAVE THIS TRADITION OF BEING MORE OPEN TO THE PARANORMAL AND SUPERNATURAL THAN THE REST OF US. I KNOW OF KNOW STATISTICS TO THIS BUT PEOPLE WHO HAVE NOT SINGLE BUT MULTIPLE OCCURRENCES TO REPORT ARE, VERY OFTEN. I CAN'T SAY INVARIABLY OFTEN HAVE KELTIC BLOOD IN THEIR VEINS.

Mary says WHY ARE THEY SO LUCKY?

John says SECOND SIGHT.

Mary says YOU OH. OH, SECOND SIGHT.

John says I'M A KELT THERE, FOREI SHOULD SEE GHOSTS, SPIRITS AND BE OPEN TO IT, THINGS IN THE GARDEN, THAT TYPE OF THING. IT'S CULTURAL. ON THE OTHER HAND IT MIGHT BE SOMETHING ELSE. WHAT I LOVE ABOUT THIS AREA, YOU SEE, IT OPENS ALL KINDS OF QUESTIONS ABOUT GENETICS, HISTORY, PROBABILITY. PSYCHOLOGICAL PROBLEMS ABOUT EXPECTATION. PEOPLE DESCRIBE GHOSTS APPEARING UNEXPECTEDLY. AND THEY ARE MOST INTERESTING. ON THE OTHER HAND, A LOT OF PEOPLE GO AROUND EXPECTING TO SEE GHOSTS. WHO KNOWS WHAT THEY ARE SEEING? MAYBE RAPID EYE MOVEMENT? THAT'S BEEN ONE SUGGESTION.

Mary says LET'S TAKE ANOTHER CALL. WE HAVE THERESA ON THE LINE. HI, THERE. HOW ARE YOU?

The Caller says GREAT.

Mary says GO AHEAD.

The Caller says WE LIVE LIVED IN A HOUSE AT THE BEACHES. IT WAS AN OLD HOUSE. DO YOU FIND THAT ELECTRICAL ELECTRICAL STORMS CAN INCREASE ACTIVITY? WE WOULD FIND THAT WE WOULD HAVE ACTIVITY. WE'D HAVE THINGS LIKE OBJECTS BEING THROWN, VOICES BEING MIMICKED. OUR CHINA CABINET WE WENT RUNNING UP BECAUSE I THOUGHT I HEARD MY BROTHER'S VOICE. THEN I WENT INTO MY DINING ROOM AND FOUND MY CHINA BEING SHOOK. WOULD I HEAR A VOICE SOBBING. THERE WAS LIKE A LITTLE... A ROUND-ABOUT INSIDE THE WALLS OF THE HOUSE. WOULD I HEAR A LITTLE BOY CRYING IN IT. A LOT OF CRAZY STUFF.

Mary says WHAT DO YOU THINK OF THAT?

John says THERE'S A SPECTACULAR MOMENT IN THE MOVIE FRANKENSTEIN WHEN A STORM OCCURS AND A BOLT OF LIGHTNING COMES DOWN AND IT ANIMATES THE INNER LIFE AND CREATES LIFE.

Mary says RIGHT.

John says I'VE ALWAYS FELT ESPECIALLY EDGY DURING THUNDERSTORMS, ESPECIALLY IN THE SUMMER, YOU KNOW, WHEN THE AIR IS FETTED AND THE SHEET LIGHTNING COMGs DOWN?

Mary says MM-HMM.

John says ALSO, POWER LINES. I VISITED A LARGE NUMBER OF HAUNTED SITES OR SITES THAT HAVE A TRADITION OF BEING HAUNTED. YOU KNOW WHAT I OFTEN SEE NEARBY? VERY CLOSE NEARBY? HYDROELECTRIC HIGH-TENSION POWER LINES RUNNING THROUGH FROM NIAGARA. NOW, THERE'S NO PROOF THAT THESE GENERATE ELECTRICAL FIELDS THAT AFFECT HUMAN BEINGS.

Mary says RIGHT. EOPLE IN THESE

John says EXCEPT THAT AREAS ARE REPORTING PARANORMAL PHENOMENA MORE OFTEN THAN NOT. WHY IS THIS? PROBABLY THE ELECTRICITY. IT INTERFERES WITH YOUR RADIO OR TV INTERCEPTION, MAYBE OTHER THINGS.

Mary says WHAT OTHER THINGS?

John says NOW I'VE GOT YOU.

Mary says OH, YOU. YOU'RE WALKING THAT FINE LINE, CAN I TELL. WE HAVE DIEDRA ON THE LINE. HI. DO YOU HAVE A STORY?

The Caller says YES. I WENT TO GO LIVE WITH A FOSTER FAMILY IN ONTARIO. WHEN I MOVED IN, BEING QUITE THE STUBBORN CHILD THAT I WAS DIDN'T WANT TO GO TO THE CHURCH CEREMONIES THAT THEY WENT TO OR THE CHOIR THING THAV(!EY DID. THEY USED TO LEAVE ME ALONE IN THE HOUSE. NO ONE INFORMED ME OF THIS, BUT APPARENTLY THEY HAD HAD A FRIEND LIVING WITH THEM FOR QUITE SOME TIME. ONE NIGHT ALONE I WAS DOING MY HOMEWORK AT THE COMPUTER. I HAD MY HEADPHONES ON. I HEARD MY FOSTER MOTHER CALL ME. THEN MY TWO FOSTER SISTERS. I ASSUMED THEY HAD JUST COME HOME, THEY HAD FORGOTTEN SOMETHING. WHEN I TURNED AROUND , NOBODY WAS THERE. I ASSUMED IT WAS ONE OF THOSE VACUUMING STORIES. YOU KNOW WHEN YOU VACUUM YOU HEAR THE PHONE?

Mary says THAT'S GOOD.

The Caller says I KEPT GOING. IT PERSISTED. IT GOT LOUDER AND LOUDER. THE LAST TIME I THOUGHT THAT'S IT. I RIPPED OFF THE HEADPHONES, TURNED AROUND AND THERE HE was...

Mary says "THERE HE WAS?"

The Caller says THERE HE WAS.

Mary says WHAT WAS HE?

The Caller says YOU COULD TELL IT WAS A MAN, BUT NOT MUCH MORE THAN THAT. HE WAS TALL, BROAD-SHOULDERED. JUST SORT OF BLUE, IF THAT MAKES IT EASIER TO DESCRIBE.

Mary says BLUE?

John says WE LATER FOUND OUT, THROUGH SOME RESEARCHq THAT THE MAN'S NAME WAS MR. HUMPFRIES. HE LIVED IN THE HOUSE. HE WAS THE FIRST MAN TO BUILD THE HOUSE. MY FOSTER MOTHER CONFE and wED, YES, THEY KNEW HE WAS THERE, DIDN'T WANT TO TELL ME. IF YOU WERE LUCKY ENOUGH TO GET UP IN THE MORNING WOULD YOU SEE HIM GO FROM THE HOUSE TO THE BARN AT 4:30, 5:00. WOE START HIS CHORES. THAT'S WHO WE LIVED WITH FOR A WHILE.

Mary says WAS THAT THE ONLY SIGHTING YOU HAD OF MR. HUMPRIES?

The Caller says NO. COULD YOU SEE HIM QUITE oF(EN.

Mary says WHAT DO YOU MAKE OF THAT?

John says I WONDER IF A VIDEO CAMERA COULD SEEñr HIM AS WELL. I THAT MIGHT BE WORTH DOING.

Mary says DO WE HAVE ANY PROOF?

John says YES, SOMETIMES YOU ARE GETTING DISPLAYS OF ENERGY.ñr LET'S SAY A LIVING ROOM IS BEING VIDEOCAMMED. PEOPLE ARE SEEING A GHOSTLY FIGURE IN THE WORD. WHAT THE VIDEO CAMERA PICKS SUN SOME BLUR, SOME DISTORTION THAT YOU CAN SEE ON THE TELEVISION SET. WAVEY LINES LIKE THAT.

Mary says IF YOU HAD AN EXPERT

John says WELL, THERE THERE ARE EXPLANATIONS FOR EVERYTHING IN THE WORLD. YOU ASK YOURSELF IS THAT A MEANINGFUL COINCIDENCE? WHY DOES THIS SEEM TO HAPPENÑ REGULARLY? LET'S ADMIT IT. WE'RE IN AN AREA WHERE THERE IS NO YES OR NO. IT'S WHAT PEOPLE WANT TO BELIEVE. I WILL GO THIS FAR IN SAYING THAT I... BELIEFS CAN AFFECT PERCEPTION.xDxD I THINK THINK CAN MOVE MATTER. CAN I MOVE THIS PIECE OF PAPER WITH MY HAND. CAN I MOVE ITWWITH MY MIND? THERE ARE STUDIES THAT SAY PEOPLE CAN DO SO. IN LABORATORIES THEY CAN'T PERFORM ANTHRAX THAT'S THE PROBLEM.

Mary says I'M SORRY?r WHAT ARE YOU SAYING? YOU YOURSELF BELIEVE THAT?

John says IN CERTAIN CIRCUMSTANCES PEOPLE'S THOUGHTS CAN AFFECT MATTER.

Mary says CAN AFFECT MATTER?

John says THAT'S A PERSONAL BELIEF. I CAN'T SUBSTANTIATE THAT WITH FACTS. I WILL GO THAT FAR.

Mary says OOH, OK. I WANT TO ASK YOU, TOO. YOU'VE WRITTEN ABOUT SO MANY GHOST STORIES. I DON'T KNOW IF THEY'RE LIKE YOUR CHILDREN AND YOU CAN'T REALLY PICK A FAVORITE. DO YOU HAVE A FAVORITE GHOST STORY IN THIS RECENT EDITION?

John says IN THE GHOST STORIES OF CANADA.

Mary says YES.

John says ITES MY SELECTED GHOST STORIES. IT CONTAINS 100 HAUNTINGS FROM THE EAST COAST TO THE WEST COAST TO THE NORTH. fá THE SCREAMING TUNNEL IS ONE OF MY FAVORITES. IF YOU ARE DRIVING FROM TORONTO TOÑi NIAGARA FALLS AND YOU TAKE THE QUEEN E HIGHWAY. THE HIGHWAY SEEMS TO GO LIKE THAT. YOU PASS OVER WHAT SEEMS TO BE A RAILWAY TUNNEL. THAT IS... IT'S GOT AN OFFICIAL NAME. IT'S UXE SOMETHING NIAGARA TUNNEL. IT'S NOT USED FOR ANYTHINGñr ANYMORE. IT USED TO BE USED FOR A RAILWAY SIGHTING. IN ANY CASE, IT'S NOW KNOWN AS THE SCREAMING TUNNEL. IF YOU WANT TO SEE ITÑi IN THE PRIVACY OF YOUR LIVING ROOM, YOU RENTw3 A PICTURE DIRECTED BY DAVID CRONINBURG, "THE DEAD ZONE." AND THE SEQUENCES ARE SET IN THE SCREAMING TUNNEL. IT'S A TUNNEL OFxD ABOUT 100 METRES LONG, I GUESS. IT'S ABOUT 20ñr METRES HIGH.óó IT'S CIRCUMSTANCE LAR LIKE THIS. IT'S CIRCULAR LIKE THIS.Ñi YOU WALK INTO IT. THERE IS WATER TRICKLING ONTO THE GROUND. THERE ARE RATS, OTHER THINGS RUNNING UP AND DOWN. CAN YOU SEE THE LIGHT AT THEÑi END OF THE TUNNEL.

MARY says RIGHT.

John says AND THE STORY IS TOMD THAT IF, AT MIDNIGHT, YOU WALK IN TO THE TUNNEL, STOP, STAND STILL, SAY NOTHING, TAKE OUT A MATCH. LIGHT THE MATCH YOU WILL HEAR A YOUNG GIRL'S SCREAM.xD

Mary says HMM.

John says NOW, THE STORY BEHIND IT IS THAT A YOUNG GIRL WAS LURED INTO THE TUNNELfá BY SOME PERSON OR PERSONS UNKNOWN. AND HER CLOTHES WERE SET AFIRE AND SHE SCREAMED AND DIED IN THE TUNNEL. THAT'S THE STORY. HORRIBLE STORY.

Mary says WE DON'T KNOW THAT FOR SURE?

John says OF COURSE, I'M SOMEWHAT OF A SKEPTIC, SOMEONE WHO IS SYMPATHETIC OF THIS. WITH A FRIEND, DWIGHT WAILAND, ANOTHER RESEARCHER AT THE APPROPRIATE TIME WE WALKED INTO THE TUNNEL. I SAID TO DWIGHT ARE YOU GOING TO LIGHT THE MATCH? HE SAID YOU LIGHT THE

Mary says DON'T TELL ME TWO ADULT MEN AFRAID IN THE TUNNEL.

John says I TOOK OUT THE MATCHES. I BROUGHT AN EXTRA PACK OF MATCHES ALONG. AND I LIT IT. AND IT WOULDN'T LYING. SO I TRIED AGAIN. LIT IT. STILL WOULDN'T LIGHT. TWO. DID IT A THIRD TIME IT FLARED UP. SOMETIMES MATCHES WILL FLARE UNEXPECTEDLY. I HEARD A DEAFENING SOUND. I'M NOT DESCRIBING IT AS A SCREAM. I HEARD A DEAFENING SOUND. I LOOKED AT DWIGHT. WE SAID LET'S GET OUT SO. WE LEFT.

Mary says DID THE MATCH GO OUT?

John says THE MATCH WENT OUT.

Mary says YOU HEARD A DEAFENING SOUNDíRÑ? I'M SURE YOU ARE THINKING IN YOUR MIND FOR AN EXPLANATION FOR IT. DID YOU COME ONE ONE?

John says NEW YORK I DIDN'T. I DECIDED I WASN'T GOING TO TO EXPLORE PHYSIOLOGY, PSYCHIATRY AND PSYCHOLOGY AND ALL OF THE REST OF IT. I FIGURED THAT WAS AN EXPERIENCE I WAS GIVEN. I FIGURE IT'S AÑi GIFT. SOME ARE CURSES. THIS WAS A GIFT. IT WAS GIVEN TO ME. I'M NOT INTERESTED IN THE MECHANISM, PARTICULARLY, I'M INTERESTED IN THE EFFECT IT HAS ON PEOPLE. IN THIS INSTANCE THE INFORMANT WAS MYSELF. I'M INTERESTED IN EXPLORING THAT. I LIKE TO KEEP IT IN SUSPENSION SO TO SPEAK?

Mary says THE EFFECT WAS THAT+H YOU RAN LIKE THE DICKENS OUT OF THERE. LET'S GO TO ANOTHER CALLER. WE HAVE ANNA ON THE LINE FROM NORTH YORK. HI, ANNA.

The Caller says HI, HOW ARE YOU?

Mary says FINE, THANKS.

The Caller says MY GRANDMOTHER WAS LIVING WITH US. SHE WENT ON A TRIP WITH MY PARENTS TO ITALY. THAT'S WHERE SHE WAS BORN. SHE NEVER CAME BACK. AS SHE PASSED AWAY IN ITALY.
THAT NIGHT WE WERE ALL SLEEPING MYSELF, MY SISTER, MY COUSIN. WE ALL SAW A BRIG LYING, A WARM... LIKE SOMETHING WARM CALLING US TO THE BASEMENT.Ñi WE ALL SAW A BRIGHT LIGHT. WE ALL SAW IT AT DIFFERENT TIMES. I THOUGHT A LIGHT WAS ON, LIKE, TURN OFF THE LIGHT SWITCH, BUT IT WASN'T.

Mary says MM-HMM.

The Caller says WHEN I LOOKEDw3 DOWN, IT WAS JUST LIKE A WARM FEELING INSIDE. IT WAS LIKE I THINK HER WAY OF SAYING GOOD-BYE BECAUSE WE DIDN'T SAY A PROPER GOOD-BYE. SHE WAS RUSHED TO THE AIRPORT. LIKE THEY WERE RUSHING TO percentddE AIRPORT BECAUSE THEY WERE LATE.

John says CLOSE YOU'RE. YES. THE NEED FOR CLOSURE. CLOSURE. AN EXPERIENCE FROM A RELATIVE.

Mary says THAT IS DIFFERENT FROM THE CRISIS APPARITION.

John says IS THIS THE NEWLY DEAD SO IRRITATED THAT THEY WANT TO HAUNT THE LIVING? NO. IS IT A GIFT FROM THE DEAD? A BLESSING, OF SORTS. YOU ARE OFFERED A SENSE OF CLOSURE. I THINK THIS IS POSSIBLE. THE INTERESTING THING IT WAS A BURST OF LIGHT THAT WAS SEEN.

Mary says MM-HMM.

John says ONCE I SPOKE TO A GROUP OF SCHOOL KIDS ABOUT GHOSTS, SPIRITS. WE DISTRIBUTED A PAPER. I SAID WOULD YOU DRAW A GHOST? ALL OF THEM EXCEPT FOR ONE DREW CASPER THE FRIENDLY GHOST. ONE KID WAS SAYING CAN I ASK A QUESTION? I SAID JUST DRAW A GHOST. I HAVE TO ASK A QUESTION. THE KID SAID THIS IS AN 8-YEAR-OLD KID. HOW DO YOU DRAW A BURST OF LIGHT?

Mary says OOH, YEAH.

John says I THOUGHT OF THAT WHEN THE CALLER DESCRIBED SEEING THE LIGHT.

Mary says YEAH.
WE LOVE IT.

John says YOU ARE GETTING FRIGHTENED, I SEE.

Mary says YES. WE'LL HAVE TO ALL GO OUT AND GET YOUR BOOK AND READ IT FOR HALLOWEEN. THANKS FOR SHARING THOSE STORIES WITH US.

John says MARY?

Mary says YES.

John says ok I SHALL RETURN.

Mary says THANK YOU. JOHN ROBERT COLUMBO IS THE AUTHOR OF "GHOST STORIES OF CANADA." ED BY THE áj IT'S Pu DUNDURN GROUP. WE CONGRATULATE OUR WINNERS, NICOLE, DIEDRA. IF YOU FEEL INSPIRED TO CATCH THAT GHOST IN YOUR ATTIC STAY TUNED BECAUSE SYLVIAÑi FUNSTON WILL BE IN TO TALK ABOUT THE SCIENCE BEHIND THE PHENOMENON.

A commercial break plays.

An ad for 8 PM show Studio 2 plays.

Then, an ad plays for 7 PM show Fragile Nature.

The break ends.

Mary says OK. NOW THAT WE'VE GOT YOU REALLY SPOOKED IT'S TIME TO TRAP THAT GHOST. WE'VE GOT JUST THE WOMAN TO DO IT. SYLVIA FUNSTON IS HERE WITH US. SHE'S THE AUTHOR OF TWO BOOKS FOR KIDS "GHOSTS AND MUMMIES."

Sylvia is in her late forties, with shoulder-length wavy blond hair. She's wearing glasses and a beige jacket.
Copies of her two books sit on a table. One reads "Ghosts" and features a drawing of a female ghost descending a staircase, and the other reads "Mummies" and features a drawing of a mummy inside an open sarcophagus.

Mary says THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE.

Sylvia says THANK YOU.

Mary says BEFORE WE GET TO GHOSTS YOU HAVE A GHOULISH PROJECT HOW TO MAKE A MUMMY.

Sylvia says WELL , IT'S HOW TO MAKE A MUMMY FROM THAT.xD

Mary says FROM AN APPLE?

Sylvia says FROM AN APPLE. PREFERABLY A GOLDEN DELICIOUS. E BEST

Mary says THEY MAKE MUMMIES? ALL RIGHT.

Sylvia says AND SOME PIPEÑi CLEANERS, BANDAGES, LEMON JUICE.

Mary says OK.

As Sylvia presents the mentioned materials on a table, she says WHAT YOU DO IS YOU PEEL THE APPLE. LEAVE A LITTLE BIT OF A SKIN, TOP AND BOTTOM. AND THEN YOU TAKE A SHARP KNIFE, WHICH I DIDN'T BRING WITH ME. AND YOU SCOREñr THE APPLE. I DON'T KNOW WHETHER YOUR CAMERA CAN SEE IT.

Mary says OH, YOU MAKE A FACE ON IT.

Sylvia says YOU MAKE TWO DEEP CUTS IN THE FOREHEAD.

Mary says RIGHT.

Sylvia says YOU GOUGE OUT TWO HOLES FOR THE EYES.xTXú3 TWO CUTS STRAIGHT DOWN FOR THE NOSE. AND THEn
A WIDE CUT FOR THE MOUTH. A VERY DEEP CUT FORÑi THE MOUTH.

Mary says RIGHT.

Sylvia says AND THEN TWO SHORTER, NARROWER CUTS ABOVE AND BELOW THE MOUTH.

Mary says OH, GREAT. OK. YOU HAVE GOT THIS ON A WOODEN STICK.

Sylvia says YOU CAN EITHER DRY IT ON A WOODEN STICK. WHAT I DID WAS TOOK A METAL COAT HANGAR, STRAIGHTENED IT OUT. SHOVED IT RIGHT THROUGH, MADE A METAL LOOP AND HUNG IT ABOVE A
RADIATOR.

Mary says OK. AND YOU HANG IT UP FOR HOW LONG?

Sylvia says ABOUT TWO WEEKS. HAVE YOUÑi TO HAVE A LITTLE PATIENCE. T@E RESULTS ARE REALLY WORTH WHILE.ß FINANCIAL FEATURE" WEEKS YOU TAKE IT DOWN. YOU START MANIPULATING THE FACE OF THE MUMMY. IT'S LOST A LOT OF WATER BY THEN.

Mary says RIGHT.

Sylvia says YOUñr PULL THE CHIN DOWN,Ñi SQUEEZE THE FACE IN AND THEN COF HANG IT UP FOR AD WEEKS. YOU DO THAT, SCORE IT WELLE(- WITHÑi LEMON JUICE.xD

Mary says WHAT DOES THAT DO?

Sylvia says IT STOP IT IS FROM TURNING BROWN.

Mary says A FEW MOREok WEEKS GO BY?

Sylvia says WHILE THAT IS HAPpEeRgG YOU CAN MAKE THE BODY OUT OFS7 PIPE CLEANERS. I LIKE TO MAKE THEMÑi DOUBLE THICKNESS FOR STRENGTH.

She shows Mary a stick figure style body made out of pipe cleaners.

Mary says RIGHT.

Sylvia says EASE ESPECIALLY THIS VERY LONG NECK.q THIS VERY LONG NECK IS GOING TO GO UPÑi INSIDE OF THE APPLE.

Mary says RIGHT.

Sylvia says OK? AND THEN YOU CAN PAD THE BODY WITH A LITTLE BIT OF COTTON BALLS.

Mary says OH, YEAH, THAT'S LOOKING LIKE A MUMMY NOW.

Sylvia says BANDAGE IT IN PLACE, RIGHT?

Mary says RIGHT.

Sylvia says BY THEÑi TIME ALL OF THAT S DONE, AFTER ABOUT A NEW YORK YOU TAKE YOUR APPLE DOWN. YOU PUT IT ON THE BODY. THE APPLE IS THAT SIZE.

She shows a finished mummy with a dehydrated and wrinkled apple face.

Mary says THAT'S AMAZING, ISN'T IT? THAT'S ALL OF THE WATER THAT HAS EVAPORATED. THAT'S A INTERESTING FACE.

Sylvia says IT'S WONDERFUL, ISN'T IT? YOU FOLD OVER THE ARMS THE WAY EGYPTIAN MUMMIES WERE MADE. THEN YOU START BANDAGING IT.

Mary says WHAT ARE THOSE EYES?

Sylvia says THE EYES ARE CLOSED.

Mary says OH, PERFECT.Ñi PERFECT.

Sylvia says TO MAKE IT A REAL MUMMY.

Mary says UH-HUH.

Sylvia says YOU SHOULD WRITE THE MUMMY'S NAME ON THE BANDAGES. IF YOU KNOW ANY MAGIC WORDS, WRITE THOSE ON IT, TOO.

Mary says A SPECIAL INCANTATION MAYBE. THAT'S A WONDERFUL PROJECT FOR KIDS. ENOUGH CORPSES NOW. LET'S MOVE ONTO GHOSTS. IN YOUR BOOK IT IS FASCINATING. ARE THERE GHOST HUNTERS? NOT GHOST BUSTERS, BUT GHOST HUNTERS?

A caption appears on screen. It reads "Sylvia Funston. Ghosts."

Sylvia says THERE ARE GHOST HUNTERS. SOME SCIENTISTS WE COULD CALL THEM GHOST BUSTERS. I DON'T THINK THEY WOULD LIKE TO BE CALLED THAT. THERE ARE OTHERS WHO ARE NOT SCIENTISTS WHO GO AROUND CHECKING REPORTINGS OF HAUNTINGS IN HOUSES.

Mary says MM-HMM.

Sylvia says THEY LOOK FOR MECHANICAL PROBLEMS. FIRST, THEY WOULD LOOK AT A HOUSE AND SEE IF IT'S SHIFTING ON ITS FOUNDATION. THEY WOULD CHECK THE PLANS, MAPS OF THE AREA TO SEE IF THERE ARE ANY UNDERGROUND TUNNELS, STREAMS, PHONE LINES UNDER THE HOUSE. THEN THEY WILL GO INTO THE HOUSE. THEY WILL CHECK FOR THINGS THAT MIGHT BE MAKING OTHER KINDS jó NOISES OR SMELLS IN THE HOUSE. NOT ALL GHOSTS ARE SEEN. MOST OF THEM ARE HEARD. GHOST FOOTPRINTS.

Mary says OH, WHEN IT COMES TO ACTUAL REPORTINGS YOU MEAN?
THERE ARE NOT MANY REAL and mGHTINGS WHEN PEOPLE SAY I SAW A GHOST?

Sylvia says NO.Ñi MOST PEOPLE HEAR THEM OR SMELL THEM OR THEY FEEL A REAL DROP IN TEMPERATURE. SO ALL OF THE SENSES ARE INVOLVED.

Mary says OK. THESE INVESTIGATORS ARE AL-=J7 TRYING TO FIND A SCIENTIFIC EXPLANATION OF WHAT IS GOING ON?

Sylvia says SOME DO. SOME TRY TO FIND A PERFECTLY NATURAL EXPLANATION FOR WHAT IS GOING ON. SCIENTISTS COME UP FROM OBVIOUSLY, A DIFFERENT ANGLE. THEY'VE DISCOVERED A NUMBER OF INTERESTING REASONS WHY WE MIGHT SEE OR HEAR OR EVEN SMELL GHOSTS.xDÑi Ñi IT GETS TOO CONFUSING. SO IT HAS GAPS. IF YOU ARE EXPECTINGñr TO SEE OR HEAR A GHOST YOUR BRAIN FILLS IN THE GAPS T.MIGHT FILL IT IN IN A WAY THAT YOU MIGHT SEE OR HEAR WHAT YOU ARE EXPECTING.

Mary says SO THEY SAY IT IS MORE LIKELY IF THE EXPECTATION IS THERE OF SEEING ONE THAT YOU'LL HAVE A HIGHER CHANCE OF SEEING ONE?

Sylvia says DEFINITELY.

Mary says OH, OK.

Sylvia says OTHER THINGKr THAT HAVE BEEN DISCOVERED SOME PEOPLE ARE VERY TENSIVE TO ELECTROMAGNETIC RADIATION WHICH CAN COME FROM FAULTS IN THE EARTH. OR IT CAN COME FROM STONE THAT HAS HIGH QUARTZ CONTENT. THESE CAN DISRUPT THE TEMPORAL TEMPORAL PARTS OF THE BRAIN AND THEñr PARIETAL REGION WHICH CONNECTS. THAT SEASON RESPONSIBLE FOR YOUR SENSATION OF YOUR OWN BODY AND THE SPACE SURROUNDING IT. SOME PEOPLE HAVE OUT OF BODY EXPERIENCES.

Mary says RIGHT.

Sylvia says SOME PEOPLE SEE A DOUBLE GHOST, A DOUBLE IMAGE. AND THEY MIGHT EVEN SEE THEMSELVES. IT'S BEEN DISCOVERED THAT PEOPLE WHO SUFFER FROM MIGRAINES VERY FREQUENTLY SEE THEMSELVES OUTSIDE OF THEIR OWN BODY.

Mary says REALLY?

Sylvia says YOU KNOW WHAT A LOT OF PEOPLE LISTENING TO THIS... MAYBE NOT A LOT, BUT SOME PEOPLE MIGHT SAY ENOUGH OF THAT SCIENTIFICxD MUMBO JUMBO. I KNOW I SAW SOMETHING. GENERALLY, WHEN PEOPLE LOOK AT THE STATS, HOW MUCH OF THESE REPORTINGS CAN BEq EXPLAINED? HOW MUCH ACTUALLY CAN'T BE?

Mary says OK.

Sylvia says AS MANY AS 98 percent OF ALL REPORTINGS CAN USUALLY BE FOUND TO HAVE A NATURAL CAUSE.

Mary says OK.

Sylvia says IT'S THE 2 percent THAT FASCINATE PEOPLE AND ESPECIALLY SCIENTISTS.

Mary says TOTALLY BAFFLING?

Sylvia says TOTALLY BAFFLING.

Mary says I GUESS IF WE, AS AMATEUR SLEUTHS WANT TO CAPTURE A GHOST WHATÑi DO YOU SUGGEST? I THINK YOU A DO IT YOURSELF KIT FOR PEOPLE.

Sylvia says I DO. I BROUGHT IT ALONG. THE THING IS, IT'S HALLOWEEN. IN THEq SPOOK KIT, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT LOTS OF GHOST HUNTERS DO, OF COURSE S TO GO INTO A BUILDING THAT'SÑi REPORTEDLYw3 HAUNTED AND TAKEk PHOTOGRAPHS. SO A CAMERA HAS TO BE AN ABSOLUTE MUST. YOU DON'T NECESSARILY SEE ANYTHING AT THE TIME.xD

From a folded cloth container, she takes out a small black analog photo camera.

Mary says RIGHT.

Sylvia says OCCASIONALLY, A PHOTOGRAPH WILL COME OUT WITH STRANGE, STRANGE THINGS.

Mary says I THOUGHT GHOSTS YOU CAN'T CAPTURE THEM ON FILM. MAYBE I'M WRONG ABOUT THAT ONE.

Sylvia says THERE HAVE BEEN PHOTOGRAPHS THAT PEOPLE HAVE NOT BEEN ABLE TO PROVE, ONE WAY OR THE OTHER, AS BEING FAKE.

Mary says IT DOESN'T HURT. TAKE A PHOTO.

Sylvia says A STETHOSCOPE YOU THINK MIGHT BE AN UNUSUAL THING TO HAVE IN A KIT.

She takes out a stethoscope.

Mary says BORROW THAT.

Sylvia says SAY YOU LIVE IN A PLACE THAT HAS VERY LOUD NOISES AT NIGB AND RUSTLINGS, SCRATCHINGS, AND VERY LOUD NOISES AND YOU HAVE NO IDEA WHAT THEY ARE LISTEN TO A FEW OF THE WALLSñr AT NIGHT. YOU MIGHT JUST HEAR LITTLE RODENTS AT WORK. AND WHEN THEY START DIGGING AND RUSTLING IN THERE IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT INSIDE THE WALL, THE SOUND IS MAGNIFIED. AND IT SOUNDSxD AS IF YOU'VE GOT A BEAVER INYm THERE INSTEAD OFA MOUSE. SO THAT'S ONE REASON.5a ALSO, TRAPPED IN PIPES WOULD BE ANOTHER.

Mary says OK.

Sylvia says NOW, ONE RECENT DISCOVERY IS THAT CERTAIN2MOLDS AND FUNGUSES CAN AFFECT PEOPLE IN A LOT OF BAD WAYS.

Mary says ALLERGIES YOU MEAN?

Sylvia says IF YOU'RE ALLERGIC TO THEM AND IF YOU'RE VERY, VERY SENSITIVE TO THEM, THEY HAVE BEEN KNOWN TO CAUSE HALLUCINATIONS. SO ONE OF THE THINGS YOU MIGHT WANT TO DO IS TAKE A GOOD LOOK AT WALLS AND DAMP SPOTS TO SEE IF YOU'VE GOT ANY NASTY GROWTH THAT MIGHT BE CAUSING PEOPLE TO SEE THINGS.

She takes out a magnifying glass.

Mary says GET TO THE BOTTOM OF THIS.

Sylvia says ABSOLUTELY.

Then, she takes out a few plastic strings and says COLD SPOTS ARE VERY, VERY COMMON IN GHOSTLY REPORTINGS. THIS IS MY HOME MADE GHOST DETECTOR. IF YOU'VE GOT A COLD SPOT IN YOUR HOUSE. AND YOU CAN'T SEE ANY REAL REASON FOR IT, JUST MAKE ONE OF THESE OUT OF PLASTIC.Ñi AND THE SLIGHTEST DRAFT WILL MAKEñr IT MOVE.

Mary says LET ME ASK YOU ONE YOU WRITE IN YOUR BOOK ABOUT YOUR OWN BRUSH WITH A GHOST. CAN YOU QUICKLY TELL US ABOUT THAT? THAT WAS IN ENGLAND?

Sylvia says YES, WE WERE VISITING A COUSIN IN LONDON. IT HAD A REPUTATION OF BEING HAUNTED. ONE NIGHT MY DAUGHTER, WHO WAS 8 AT THE TIME WENT TO SLEEP ON THE DAY BED IN MY COUSIN'S LIVING ROOM. OVER THE FIREPLACE WAS A VERY LARGE, HEAVY OIL PAINTING. R AND IN THE MORNING I WENT TO WAKE UPñr AND I NOTICED THE OILr PAINTING WASN'T THERE ANYMORE. IT HAD BEEN MOVED TO THE OTHER SIDE OF THE ROOM JAMMEDÑi VERY TIGHTLY BEHIND A WOODEN CHEST. SARAH COULDN'T HAVE POSSIBLY MOVED IT. í WAS ONLY 8. Ñi SHE COULDN'T HAVE REACHED IT. NOBODY ELSE... NOBODY ELSE CLAIMED TO HAVE BEEN IN THE ROOM. I DON'T THINKxD THERE WAS ANYBODY IN THE HOUSE THAT WOULD WANT TO PLAY A TRICK ON US. BUT WHAT GAVE ME SHIVERSÑi WAS THAT MY COUSIN BOUGHT THE HOUSE. IT WAS BOUGHT BY A DEVELOPER WHO BOUGHT UP ALL OF THE HOUSES AND DEMOLISHED THEM.w3 AND WHEN YOU STARTED EXCAVATING DOWN INTO THE FOUNDATIONS HE BROKE INTO AN OLD xD PLAGUE PIT. THE HOUSE HAD BEEN BUILT ON HUNDREDS OF BODIES THAT HAD DIED DURING THE GREAT PLAGUE IN LONDON.

Mary says OH, MY GOODNESS.

Sylvia says THAT SHOULD GIVE A LITTLE TINGLE DOWN THE SPINE.

Mary says LISTEN, WE'RE JUST ABOUT OUT OF TIME. QUICKLY, NOW, FROM THAT EXPERIENCE AND EVERYTHING ELSEñ and YOU'VE RESEARCHED DO YOU BELIEVE IN GHOSTS?

Sylvia says WELm IT'S ONE OF THOSE THINGS THAT I FIND IT IMPOSSIBLE TO BELIEVE GHOSTS IN BROAD DAYLIGHT. BUT IMPOSSIBLE NOT TO IN THE DARK.

Mary says IN THE STILL OF THE NIGHT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SYLVIA. WE'LL BE ON OUR GHOST-HUNTING SYLVIA FUNSTON IS THE AUTHOR OF "GHOSTS AND MUMMIES."q THESE BOOKS AREÑi PUBLISHED BY AL BOOKS.
MAYBE YOU'RE REALLY SPOOKED BY A MYSTERIOUS ABSENCE, THE LACK OF AxD HALLOWEEN COSTUME, PER CHANCE. STOP WORRYING. AFTER THE BREAK, ROBIN GRAHAM WILL JOIN US WITH FABULOUS LAST-MINUTE IDEAS.

A commercial break plays.

A caption reads "Readings."

A short clip shows a young man reading from "The Ash Garden" by Dennis Bock.
The clip is part of an ad for 7:30 PM TVO Show Imprint.

Then, an ad plays for 10 PM show Masterworks.

The break ends.

Back in the studio, Mary says
GHOULS DON'T COMPARE WHEN
A CHILD COMES HOME AND SA HATE MY COSTUME. I'M NOT GOING TO WEAR IT. ROBIN GRAHAM IS HERE AND IS FHE AUTHOR OF "FUN PARTIES FOR KIDS." SHE HAS GREAT MINUTExD... SHE HAS GREAT LAST-MINUTE COSTUME IDEAS.

Robin is in her late thirties, with short wavy brown hair. She's wearing a striped red sweater and a headband with orange tulle and small black ears.
A picture of her book appears briefly on screen. The cover is yellow, with a drawing of several children and a dog sitting on the floor unwrapping presents.

Mary continues WELCOME.
WE'LL CALM THE PARENTS OUT THERE. THERE'S, MY GOODNESS, ABOUT SIX HOURS
UNTIL TRICK-OR-TREAT TIME. WHAT CAN PARENTS DO IN THIS SITUATION?

The caption changes to "Robin Graham. Last-Minute Costumes."

Robin says THERE'S LOTS OF THINGS CAN YOU DO. THERE'S A PROP FLYING AROUND YOUR HOUSE, A QUICK TRIP TO THE DOLLAR STOREt(THAT CAN YIELD ALL SORTS OF INTERESTING COSTUME IDEAS. I'VE PUT TOGETHER VERY LAST-MINUTE THINGS THAT ANYBODY CAN DO.

Mary says OK. HAVE YOU JELLY BEANS?

Robin says YES.

Mary says GO AHEAD.

A colour picture shows a boy with short dark hair smiling as he poses by a front door. He wears a costume made out of a large transparent plastic bag filled with small balloons that reads "Jelly Beans, 5 cents a bag."

Robin says THIS IS MY NEIGHBOR DOWN THE STREET. WE GOT A WHOLE BUNCH OF COLORED BALLOONS, BLEW THEM UP AND WE FILLED A CLEAR PLASTIC PLASTIC BAG OF THESE BALLOONS. CUT A HOLE FOR SEPARATE LEG HOLES, ARMHOLES AND PUT A SIGN ON HIM THAT SAID JELLY BEANS FIVE CENTS A BAG. THAT'S SIMPLE, VERY CUTE.
I HAVE A VARIATION OF SOMETHING LIKE THIS. COULD YOU GET ALL GREEN BALLOONS, PURPLE BALLOONS, HAVE YOUR CHILD DRESS IN ALL GREEN OR PURPLE. SAFETY PIN THEM ON AND YOU HAVE A BUNCH OF GRAPES. TOP IT OFF WITH A PURPLE HAT OR GREEN HAT. YOU'RE ALL SEAT.

Mary says ROUGHLY, HOW MANY BALLOONS DID YOU USE?

Robin says ABOUT HALF A BAG OF BALLOONS FROM THE DOLLAR STORE, PROBABLY 12. THERE'S THE PERFECT COSTUME FOR YOU, MARY.

Mary says WHAT ELSE DO YOU HAVE?

Another picture taken at the same spot shows a pre-teen girl posing in jeans, a white shirt, black vest and sunglasses, and holding a vinyl record.

Robin says THIS IS MY DAUGHTER, CASEY. SHE'S A 1950's GIRL. GREASER. A BLACK VEST, WHITE T-SHIRT, BOBBY SOCKS, SUNGLASSES. WE'VE SLICKED BACK HER HAIR, GIVEN HER A COMB. WE'VE USED PROPS TO GIVE IT CONTEXT. THAT'S AN OLDok L.P. SHE'S WRITTEN ON WITHq A PEN THAT SAYS THE GREASERS ON IT. D YOU MIGHT NOT RECOGNIZE A L.P. SOME OF YOU OUT THERE. MAYBE A T-SHIRT, CAP ON BACKYARDS. MAYBE SOME CHAINS.

Mary says I HEAR SALES PITCH HERE. I SAY TO MY DAUGHTER YOU PUT THIS ON. SHE'S LIKE, WHAT? THESE ARE MY CLOTHES. I WEAR THEM ALL THE TIME. IT'S THE WAY YOU SELL IT AS WELL.

Robin says GIVE IT A LITTLE CONTEXT.
YOU'D BE SURPRISED.

Mary says OK. YOU GO IN TO THE RUSTIC END OF THINGS WITH THE COSTUME?

Another picture shows the boy seen before in a gingham shirt and straw hat, driving a wagon filled with stuffed farm animals.

Robin says WE DO. THIS IS THE FARMER. HIS NAME IS DAVID HEMINGWAY. THIS IS A GOOD IDEA FOR LITTLE KIDS THAT MIGHT GET TIRED WHEN THEY ARE OUT THERE TRICK-OR-TREATING. CAN YOU PULL THEM IN A WAGON. WE DRESSED DAVID UP AS A FARMER. HE PUT ON HIS OWN OVER ALWAYS, OWN PLAID SHIRT. WE GOT A BANDANA FOR HIM AND
PUT HIM IN A WAGON AND STUFFED THEM WITH PIGS, COWS, ALL SORTS OF THINGS.

Mary says WE KNEW THE STUFFED ANIMALS WOULD COME TO USE.

Robin says RIGHT. COLLECT TREATS. ALL HIS DAD NEEDS TO DO IS TAKE HIM DOOR TO DOOR.

Mary says READY TO GO. GREAT.

In another picture, the girl wears slippers, a bathrobe, a towel over her head and paint on her face simulating a face mask, as she pretends to speak on a cellphone.

Robin says WE GAVE HER A MIRROR, CELLp PHONE, LITTLE BAG. SHE'S ALL READY TO GO.

Mary says IS THAT BLUE MAKE-UP ON HER FACE?

Robin says YEAH, YEAH. THEY ASKED IF SHE COULD BRING PROPS. SHE'S WEARING THAT TO SCHOOL TODAY.

Mary says YOU'RE INSPIRING. YOU JUST SAID YOU'VE GOT TO USE STUFF AROUND THE HOUSE. YOU PUT GLUE ALL OVER YOUR CHILD YOU GET THE GARBAGE AND YOU DUTCH IT ON THEM AND THEY'RE A GARBAGE YARD. RECYCLE.

Robin says I'VE SEEN THAT LIKE THE BAG WITH THE JELLY BEANS I'VE SEEN WITH A BUNCH OF LEAVES. THEY ARE A BAG OF LEAVES.

Mary says EVEN BETTER. THEY DON'T SMELL IN THAT CASE.

Robin says EXACTLY.

Mary says YOU'VE BROUGHT A FEW THINGS WITH YOU AS WELL.

Robin says I'VE BROUGHT A COUPLE OF THINGS WITH ME. WE HAVEN'T SEEN THESE TWO YET. YOU'LL SEE THIS COMING UP THIS.

She shows Mary two large paper circles with curves drawn in pencil and says IS THE LITTLE BASEBALL COSTUME THAT I MADE. WE MADE THIS LIKE A BASEBALL. YOUR CHILD COULD WEAR THIS LIKE A SANDWICH BOARD TYPE OF THING.

Mary says ALL RIGHT.

Robin says THE OTHER I'VE GOT IS THE TV. YOU'LL SEE THAT COMING UP, TOO.

Mary says OK.

As Mary brings out a cardboard box with a picture of a TV show on it, Robin says
OUR TV IS THE OLD CARDBOARD BOX WITH THE ARMHOLES CUT OUT. I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOUR TV HAS. CHANNELS, VOLUME.

Mary says ALL ALONG THE BOTTOM HERE.

Robin says WE HAVE LOTS OF VARIATIONS FOR THIS IDEA AS WELL.

Mary says THIS IS GREAT.

Robin says YEAH. A LITTLE AN TENNA. A LITTLE HAIRBAND.

Mary says OK. WHO DID YOU ROPE IN TO DOING THIS?

A picture shows a young blond boy wearing the TV costume, with the antenna on his head.

Robin says THESE KIDS. THEY ARE TERRIFIC. THIS IS DAVID. HE'S OUR LITTLE TV. A VARIATION ON THESE BOX IDEAS. CAN YOU DO ANYTHING. CAN YOU HAVE A DICE.

Another picture shows the dark-haired boy wearing the baseball costume.

Robin says I REMEMBER MY LITTLE SISTER GOING OUT AS A RUBIX CUBE. CAN YOU MAKE IT A WASHING MACHINE. CAN YOU WRAP IT IN CHRISTMAS PAPER AND PUT A BOW ON THEIR HEAD.

Mary says WHO IS THIS GUY?

Robin says IS HE A BASEBALL. WE ADDED A BASEBALL, CAP, GLOVE, BALL. THERE HE IS.

Mary says YOU ARE SCARY. HOW LONG DID IT TAKE TO YOU COME UP WITH THESE IDEAS?

Robin says TO BE HONEST THERE ARE A MILLION RESOURCES THAT YOU CAN USE, YOUR LOCAL LIBRARY. GO TO A BOOKSTORE. THERE'S ALWAYS THE INTERNET. THERE'S TONS OF IDEAS OUT THERE ON THE INTERNET AS WELL.

Mary says I WANT TO BE FURTHER INSPIRED. I WANT TO KNOW WHAT HAPPENS AT YOUR HOUSE TONIGHT.

Robin says WHAT HAPPENS AT MY HOUSE?

Mary says WHAT YOUR GIRLS ARE GOING AS.r HOW MUCH PLANNINGt(TOOK PLACE?

Robin says I'M A RECYCLED PERSON.ñr MY DAUGHTER IS GOING AS A FRSSgD THAT IS A DANCER. THIS IS ONE OF THE COSTUMES SHE USED IN A DANCE LIKE FIVE YEARS AGO. PANNED MY OTHERñr DAUGHTER IS GOING AS THE SPA GIRL THAT YOU ALREADY SAW. THE THING TO REMEMBER, TOO, SOME OF THESE SIMPLE IDEAS COME IN HANDY BECAUSE YOUR KIDS DON'T JUST HAVE ONE DpAAPORTUNITY TO DRESS UP. FOR INSTANCE MY KIDS THIS YEAR DRESSED UP SATURDAY NIGHT TOÑi GO TO THE SPOOKYi] TRAIL IN WHITBY. THEY DRESSED UP AS SCHOOL TODAY AN THEN THEY ARE DRESSING UP AGAIN TONIGHT. THEY MAY HAVE. KIDS MAY HAVE AN ELABORATE COSTUME. IT MAY BE BYñr THE TIME HALLOWEEN NIGHT COMES ALONG, KIDS ARE TIRED OF THEIR COSTUME OR THEY'VEi] LOSTÑ)HhART OF IT OR ARE UNCOMFORTABLE, DON'T WANT TO WEAR ANTHRAX IT'S GOOD TO HAVE OTHER IDEAS.

Mary says YOU KNOW WHAT? YOU KNOW HOW SOMETIMES WE HAVE THE GREATEST IDEAS AND WHEN WE GO TO EXECUTE THEM THEY DON'T WORK? ONE YEAR I HAD MY LITTLE BOY AS THE HEADLESS PERSON. IT WAS FABULOUS. I GOT IT FROM A BOOK. IT WAS A BOX LIKE THIS. HE SAT IT ON TON OF HIS HEAD. YOU DRESS THE BOX WITH A SHIRT, TIE, EVERYTHING. OF COURSE, THERE'S NO HEAD ON TOP OF THAT. T HE ENDS UP BEING SIX FEET TALL. THE HEAD COMES OUT OF THE STOMACH. YOU STUFF THE SHIRT-SLEEVES SO IT LOOKS LIKE HE'S HOLDING THE HEAD POPPING OUT OF HIS STOMACH. LOOKS FABULOUS. TOOK PICTURES. WHEN IT TOOK TIME TO HIM TO GO OUT THE DOOR. IT WAS WOBBLY. TOTALLY IMPRACTICAL.

Robin says THAT'S WHAT HAPPENS WITH MASKS. THERE ARE THINGS THAT EASIER FOR CHILDREN.

Mary says FINAL WORDS OF ADVICE FOR PARENTS TONIGHT FROM YOUR YEARS OF EXPERIENCE?

Robin says YOU KNOW WHAT? WHEN THE KIDS COME HOME TODAY FROM SCHOOL IF THEY ARE LOOKING FOR SOMETHING A LITTLE DIFFERENT DON'T PANIC. THERE ARE IDEAS OUT THERE. THERE ARE THINGS THEY CAN DO LAST MINUTE THAT WILL BE COMFORTABLE FOR THEM TO WEAR. IT WILL BE COLD OUT THERE TONIGHT. DON'T PANIC. YOU'LL BE ABLE TO FIGURE OUT SOMETHING LAST MINUTE.

Mary says YOU WERE NEVER THEN ONE OF THOSE PARENTS WHO RAN OUT BOUGHT COSTUMES, DID YOU?

Robin says THERE ARE ALWAYS LITTLE THINGS AROUND THAT YOU CAN USE.

Mary says YOUR KIDS SEEM TO BE HAPPY WITH THAT.

Robin says SO FAR, SO GOOD.

Mary says THAT'S GREAT. WE HAVE HOW MANY IDEAS? ABOUT SEVEN IDEAS? THANKS SO MUCH FOR SHARING THEM WITH US. HAPPY HALLOWEEN TO YOU AND YOUR KIDS. ALL RIGHTY. THANKS, ROBIN. PUBLISHED BY FITZ HENRY AND WHITESIDE. SPEAKING OF "KIDS" SIBLING CONFLICT CAN BE A SCARY EV. FEATURE< ISN'T THAT RIGHT, ROBIN?

Robin says OK, YEAH.

Mary says SHE'LL ATTEST TO THAT. TVO'S "PLANET PARENT" EXPLORES THE TOPIC. WE GET VIDEO TELEVISION OF ONE FAMILY WHO HAVE é;2 SCARY EQUATION. THREE CHILDREN. COUNT THEM. THREE CHILDREN UNDER 5.

A clip plays on screen with the caption "Video Diary."

In the clip, a girl with tousled curly brown hair plays with a red toy.

A caption reads "Yazmeen. 3 years old."

Then a clip shows a curly-haired boy and the caption changes to "Jade. 5 years old."

Then, a baby sits in a feeding chair and the caption changes to "Eve. 9 months old."

A female voice says THE BABY IS WAITING.

A woman in her late thirties with short blond hair carries Eve.

The caption changes to "Lynne Martens."

Lynne says OH, MY GOODNESS!

Then a man in his late thirties with short dark hair and a mustache plays soccer with Jade.

The caption changes to "Abdul Samadi."

Fast clips show the children playing and squabbling.

Lynne says I GUESS HOW IT WORKED OUT IS JAKE FELL IN LOVE WITH EVE. YAZMEEN WAS MY BABY AND THEN, BANG WORK IS THIS CREATURE? NOW SHE'S COMING IN TO HER OWN RELATIONSHIP AS SISTERS. AT FIRST IT WAS TOUGH.

A clip shows the older siblings playing with n electric piano.

Lynne says NOW, DO YOU GUYS FIGHT SOMETIMES?

Yazmeen says YEAH.

Lynne says WHAT DO YOU FIGHT ABOUT?

Yazmeen says THE PIANO.

Lynne says WHY DO YOU FIGHT ABOUT THE PIANO?

Yazmeen says BECAUSE.

Lynne says DO YOU PLAY WITH HER?

Jade says SOMETIMES.

Now as the three siblings lie on a bed and Jade presses on the baby's chest, Lynne says STOP PUSHING ON THE BABY.

As the family sits in a living room, Abdul says IT'S NOT LIKE YOU READ ABOUT IT AND IF THE KIDS REACT THAT WAY THIS IS HOW YOU SHOULD DO IT. AND IT'S WHATEVER COMES FROM INSIDE.

Lynne says YOU'VE GOT TO GIVE HER SOME SPACE. THE BABY NEEDS HER SPACE, TOO.

Yazmeen says YEAH.

Abdul says IF SOMETHING COMES UP WE SIT DOWN AND SAY, LET'S FORM A STRATEGY HERE. YOU ARE BOTH GOING IN OPPOSITE DIRECTIONS. THE CHILD DID SOMETHING WRONG. HOW DO WE WREAK TO IT ? GO TO YOUR ROOM, THAT TYPE THING.

Lynne says UH-OH, GUYS? HAVE YOU TO LEAVE. YES, YOU DO.

Facing the camera, Lynne says MY MIDDLE KID NEEDS MORE OF MY ATTENTION. SO WHEN THERE'S CONFLICT IT'S AMAZING HOW?XzHE SNAPS BACK INTO A SUNNY FRAME OF MIND WHEN I GIVE HER A CUDDLE AND EVERY PARENT KNOWS THAT YOU HAVE TO SPEND TIME AND I GIVE HER ONE ON ONE.

Abdul says I TRY TO PLAY HER GAME. WHATEVER MAKES HER AVOID HER TANTRUMS OR FUSS. I TRIED TO ASK HER WHAT'S BOTHERING YOU. NOTHING IS BOTHERING HER. BUT SHE'S LIKE A FIRECRACKER. BANG. IT'S LIKE I DON'T LIKE YOU.

Lynne says EVERYBODY SAYS IT'S NORMAL. I DON'T WANT TO INTERVENE TOO MUCH AND BE OVERBEARING, BUT SOMETIMES IT'S A DRAG.

As the older siblings play, Yazmeen says LET'S GO. OK. HEY!

She punches Jade.

Lynne says YES, DON'T HIT. WHAT DO YOU SAY TO HER? PLEASE STOP HITTING. OK. GUYS. YAZMEEN, STOP HITTING HIM. OK, YAZMEEN, IT'S BROKEN NOW. LET'S WORRY ABOUT FIXING IT THEN.

Abdul says THE HITTING.

As they siblings punch each other, Lynne says CAN YOU STOP NOW?

They yell NO!

Abdul says YOU DRAW THE LINE AND SAY EACH ONE GETS ONE CORNER.

Lynne says MOVE AWAY FROM EACH OTHER NOW! YOU NEED TO MOVE AWAY FROM HIM AND STOP!

Abdul says THINK ABOUT WHAT YOU'VE DONE AND SAY SORRY TO EACH OTHER AND HUG.

Lynne says VIEW ONE MORE CHANCE. DO YOU WANT TO GO TO YOUR room.

Yazmeen says NO!

Lynne says THEN CAN YOU WORK ON YOUR OWN, PLEASE?

Abdul says THAT'S THE MAIN THING.

Jade pulls on Yazmeen's arm and she says HOW, MY ARM. OWE, MY ARM.

Abdul says WHY DO YOU HIT?

Yazmeen says BECAUSE HE WAS MEAN TO me.

Abdul says NO, HE WASN'T MEAN TO YOU. STOP IT. STOP it. HE WASN'T MEAN TO YOU.
COME ON.

Lynne says OBVIOUSLY, A BABY NEEDS A LOT OF ONE-TO-ONE. I JUST HAVE TO BE REALLY CONSCIOUS TO GIVE HER THAT STUFF. EVEN THIS MORNING I WAS TRYING TO REALLY DEVOTE TIME TO HER. LIKE SHE JUST... SHE BLOOMS.

As she sits with the siblings, Lynne says DO YOU LIKE HAVING A BABY?

Yazmeen says YEAH.

Lynne says WHY?

Yazmeen says BECAUSE SHE'S SO CUTE.

Abdul says LOOK AT PRINCESS.

The clip ends.

Mary says CUTE KIDS. THEY DRIVE YOU CRAZY, BUT YOU'VE GOT TO LOVE THEM. YOU CAN CATCH "PLANET PARENT" TONIGHT AT 7:00 THAT. IS IT FOR TODAY. PLEASE COME BACK TOMORROW. WE HAVE MORE GRUESOME FOOD FOR THOUGHT. I'LL BE JOINED BY the AUTHOR OF A BOOK CALLED "THE TORSO MURDER" A GREAT WHO DUN IT ON ONE OF CANADA'S CRIMINALS AND ONGOING COVERAGE OF THE WAR ON TERRORISM. WE'LL TAKE YOUR CALLS. PLEASE JOIN THEY TOMORROW AT 1 o'clock. But in the meantime, have yourself a safe and happy Halloween. Bye for now.

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