Transcript: Rick Hillier on the New Role of Canada's Military | Nov 19, 2005

[Applause]

A slate shows a picture of Lieutenant General Rick Hillier in full military uniform, next to a quote. The quote reads "These are detestable murderers and scumbags, I'll tell you that right up front. They detest our freedoms, they detest our society, they detest our liberties."

Then, Hillier appears behind a lectern with a banner behind him that reads "Carleton University."
He's in his fifties, clean-shaven, with gray hair in a crewcut. He's wearing a formal military uniform with several decorations.

He says BY
GOD, I'VE NEVER HAD SUCH A ROUND
OF APPLAUSE.
MY DAD USED TO SAY, IF YOU START
OFF WITH A ROUND OF APPLAUSE,
SHUTP, SIT DOWN, 'CAUSE IT CAN
ONLY GO DOWNHILL FROM THERE.

[Audience laughs]

Hillier continues WELL,
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THE
INTRODUCTION, EILEEN.
I AM DELIGHTED TO BE HERE THIS
EVENING.
I WASN'T NERVOUS AT ALL TO COME
HERE UNTIL I HEARD THE DEAN TALK
ABOUT THE ESSENCE OF THIS
LECTURE, ON ANY GIVEN POINT IN
TIME, IS POLITICS AND POLICY.
WELL, AS THE CHIEF OF DEFENCE
STAFF, I'M PROHIBITED, IN FACT,
FROM DISCUSSING EITHER.
I CAN'T TALK POLITICS-
THAT'S THE BUSINESS OF ELECTED
POLITICIANS.
I CAN'T TALK POLICY-
MY JOB IS TO ENACT THE
GOVERNMENT POLICY OR RETIRE OR
RESIGN.

[Audience laughs]

Hillier continues SO I CAN
TALK EVERYTHING BUT THAT.
AND I MAY COME AT SOME OF THOSE
TWO ISSUES, OR ONE OF THOSE TWO
ISSUES, WITH SOME OF THOSE
POINTS.
I AM DELIGHTED TO BE HERE AT THE
UNIVERSITY-
MY FIRST OPPORTUNITY TO COME TO
CARLETON AND HAVE A CHANCE TO
TALK TO YOU.
I TOOK A LITTLE BIT OF RISK THIS
EVENING BY BRINGING MY LECTURE
IN MY TORONTO MAPLE LEAFS
FOLDER-
[Audience cheers]
[Applause]
[Some boos]

Hillier says A
LONG-SUFFERING LEAF FAN, ALL OF
US-
ANY LEAF FAN IS LONG-SUFFERING,
THAT'S TRUE-
AND IN FACT, I DID TAKE MUCH
SATISFACTION FROM THE FACT THAT,
LAST YEAR, THEY HAD THEIR BEST
YEAR SINCE 1967.

[Audience laughs]

Hillier continues UNFORTUNATELY, I THINK, THE
OTTAWA SENATORS HAVE TAKEN A
LEAF FROM THEIR BOOK.
WELL LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, I'D
LIKE TO TALK TO YOU-

[Some laughter and applause]

Hillier says I'D
ACTUALLY LIKE TO TALK TO YOU ON
A VARIETY OF POINTS HERE THIS
EVENING, AND, TRUTHFULLY, I WAS
ASKING HOW LONG YOU WOULD LIKE
ME TO LIMIT MY REMARKS TO.
I AM A NEWFOUNDLANDER.
I COULD FOR WEEKS-
DAYS-
HOURS-
OR SOME MINUTES HERE-
BUT I COULD PROBABLY TELL YOU
EVERYTHING IN KNOW IN ABOU
FIFTEEN MINUTES.
I MAY STRETCH IT OUT A LITTLE
TINY BIT LONGER THAN THAT.
I WAS ONE OF THOSE FOLKS WHO,
WHEN I WENT TO UNIVERSITY,
VERY YOUNG,
THE OTHER FOLKS AROUND ME WERE
DRINKING DEEPLY FROM THAT
FOUNTAIN OF EDUCATION AND I WAS
JUST GARGLING AT THE STAND THERE
AND SO, UNFORTUNATELY, IT TELLS.
I DO WANT TO TALK A COUPLE OF
THINGS HERE THIS EVENING, AND
BRING TO YOU SOME OF THE POINTS
WHICH I CONSIDER ABSOLUTELY
IMPORTANT AS A CHIEF OF DEFENCE
STAFF FOR CANADA, AS THE
COMMANDER RESPONSIBLE FOR ALL
THOSE GREAT YOUNG MEN AND WOMEN
WHO DO SO MUCH FOR US AROUND THE
WORLD AND HERE IN CANADA-
DO SO MUCH AT GREAT RISK, WITH
GREAT SACRIFICE, WITH GREAT
COMMITMENT, AND IN FACT, BECOME
OUR VERY BEST CREDENTIALS AND
OUR GREAT, GREAT BEARERS OF OUR
FLAG AROUND THE WORLD.
I'M GONNA TALK ABOUT-
ABOUT SEVEN SEPARATE POINTS
HERE.
THE THREAT HAS CHANGED.
THE SECURITY DYNAMIC IN THE
WORLD HAS CHANGED.
CANADA, AS IT IS VIEWED AS AN
INTERNATIONAL CITIZEN, FROM
OTHER FOLKS AROUND T WORLD.
CANADA AS AN EXCEPTIONAL
SOCIETY AND COUNTRY.
FOURTH POINT WOULD BE, IT'S ALL
ABOUT SECURITY-
I'LL COME AT IT IN A SLIGHTLY
DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVE.
NEXT WOULD BE DOMESTIC IS OUR
NO-FAIL BUSINESS, SOMETHING WE
HAVEN'T TALKED ABOUT IN DECADES
PAST.
I'LL TALK ABOUT INTEREST VERSUS
VALUES, AND THEN JUST FOR A
LITTLE BIT AT THE END, I'LL TRY
AND WRAP THIS UP WITH SOME
COHESION AND SOME COHERENCE, AND
TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT PEOPLE.
FIRST OF ALL-
JUST LET ME TALK TO YOU ABOUT
THE SECURITY SITUATION THAT WE
FACE WORLDWIDE AS VIEWED FROM
THE CANADIAN FORCES AND AS
VIEWED FROM WHERE WE ARE AT THIS
POINT IN TIME.

A caption appears on screen. It reads "Lieutenant General Rick Hillier. Chief of Defence Staff. 'Canada's Military in a dangerous new world.' Carleton University. September 22, 2005."

Hillier continues WE ARE A
TRADITIONAL ORGANIZATION.
IF WE HAD OUR WAY RIGHT NOW
INSTEAD OF HAVING TANKS OR
ATTACK HELICOPTERS, WE WOULD
HAVE A KNIGHT IN ARMOUR WITH A
LASER GUN MOUNTED ON A HORSE,
AND WE WILL BE ENTIRELY
SATISFACTORY AND VERY HAPPY WITH
THAT.
WE FIND IT DIFFICULT TO CHANGE.
BUT THE WORLD HAS CHANGED DRAMATICALLY
AND WE'VE HAD AN IMPLOSION AS
THE WARSAW PACT DISAPPEARED, AND
AS THE SIGNIFICANT TWO BLOCS OF
NATO AND THE WARSAW PACT
CONFRONTING EACH OTHER, HOLDING
MUCH OF THE WORLD IN SOME KIND
OF STABILITY-
LIKE IT OR NOT, IT WAS HELD IN
SOME KIND OF STABILITY-
AS THAT DYNAMIC CAUSED US TO
STRUCTURE, ORGANIZE, TRAIN,
EDUCATE, EXPERIENCE OUR PEOPLE,
AND DEVELOP ALL THE THINGS WE
DID TO DO BUSINESS.
ALL OF A SUDDEN THAT HAS CHANGED
ON US, AND THAT GREAT-
THE RUSSIAN BEAR OR THE WARSAW
PACT AS THE THREAT,
MASSIVE ARMOURED FORMATIONS
COMING ACROSS WESTERN EUROPE,
HIGH-TECHNOLOGY AIRCRAFT
FIGHTING IN THE SKIES OVER
WESTERN EUROPE,
AND OF COURSE A HIGH-TECH
RUSSIAN NAVY, WARSAW PACT
NAVIES, MAKING THEIR FORAYS
ACROSS THE NORTH ATLANTIC, HAS
CHANGED DRAMATICALLY AND HAS
DISAPPEARED.
AS I MENTIONED-
OUR ENTIRE STRUCTURE.
OUR LEADERSHIP.
OUR ORGANIZATION.
EVERYTHING WE DO WAS BASED ON 50
YEARS OF PREPARING TO MEET THAT
THREAT.
ALL OF A SUDDEN, IT DISAPPEARED
AND WE ARE FACED WITH A VARIETY
OF THREATS WHICH ARE NOT
NECESSARILY DISCERNIBLE AND NOT
NECESSARILY SEEN BY ALL
COUNTRIES AND ALL PEOPLE AS
EXACTLY THE SAME.
I'VE REFERRED TO IT IN THE PAST
AS LOOKING AT A BOWL OF TER
MOCCASINS, A BOWL OF SNAKES-
AND SOME OF THOSE SNAKES ARE
VERY LETHAL.
SOME OF THEM WILL MAKE YOU SICK.
SOME OF THEM ARE COMPLETELY
HARMLESS.
THEY'RE ALL SEEN DIFFERENTLY BY
THE DIFFERENT VARIETY OF FOLKS,
AND WE ALL HAVE TO COME AT '
IN A WAY THAT WE'RE NOT USED TO.
SO WHAT I WOULD SAY, FROM OUR
PERSPECTIVE, THE FUTURE AIN'T
WHAT IT USED TO BE, AS YOGI
BERRA USED TO SAY.
AND NOW, WE ARE REDOING, AND WE
STARTED IN FEBRUARY.
FIFTY TO SIXTY YEARS OF MILITARY
PREPARATION BASED ON ONE THREAT,
AND NOW, IN ORDER TO BE RELEVANT
TO WHAT CANADIANS NEED IN THE
FUTURE, TO BE RESPONSIVE TO
THEM, AND TO BE EFFECTIVE FOR
THEM, WE HAVE TO CHANGE
EVERYTHING THAT WE HAVE TO DO.
JOHN COBB, JR. SAID ONCE THAT
THE CHURCHES OF AMERICA WOULD
RATHER LIVE IN SPLENDID-
WOULD RATHER DIE, EXCUSE ME,
IN QUIET UNANIMITY THAN LIVE IN
VIGOROUS DEBATE.
AND SOMETIMES IN THE CANADIAN
FORCES OVER THIS PAST DECADE,
WE'VE TAKEN EXACTLY THE SAME
APPROACH.
THE ISSUES WERE TOO TOUGH TO
DISCUSS AND WE HAD FRATRICIDE
INSIDE OF THE CANADIAN FORCES,
AND AS A RESULT, WE'RE JUST NOW
HAVE THE STRATEGIC OPPORTUNITY
OF SUPPORT FROM OUR GOVERNMENT,
OF A REALIZATION IN THE
LEADERSHIP OF THE CANADIAN
FORCES BASED ON OPERATIONAL
EXPERIENCE RECENTLY ACQUIRED OF
HAVING SOME MONEY BROUGHT TO US
AND HAVING SUPPORT FROM OUR
CANADIAN POPULATION THAT WE ARE
NOW GOING TO CHANGE.
WE'RE GOING TO BE INVOLVED IN
CONDUCTING OPERATIONS IN A VERY
DIFFERENT DYNAMIC-
IN THE CENTRES OF MAJOR
POPULATIONS, EITHER
INTERNATIONALLY, OR HERE IN
CANADA.
MOST OF THOSE POPULATIONS LIVE
WITHIN ABOUT 75 MILES OF ANY
MAJOR COASTLINE SO WE'RE GOING
TO BE WORKING IN A MARITIME
LATERAL ENVIRONMENT.
WE'RE GONNA BE LIVING IN MAJOR
CITIES WHERE WE WILL OPERATE.
I USE THE CITY OF KABUL,
AFGHANISTAN AS THE EXAMPLE
WHERE, RIGHT NOW, WE HAVE ALMOST
A THOUSAND CANADIAN MEN AND
WOMEN IN UNIFORM.
AND AS I TALKED TO THE SOLDIERS
IN PETAWAWA BEFORE THEY WENT OUT
THE DOOR, I SAID, YOU'RE GOING
TO BE LIVING THERE, AND HERE IS
THE DYNAMIC.
THERE ARE FOUR MILLION PEOPLE IN
THAT CITY.
TWO MILLION HAVE BEEN ADDED TO
IT SINCE THE- I STAFFED
DEPLOYMENTS BACK ABOUT THREE
YEARS AGO, SO IT'S DOUBLED ITS
POPULATION-
JUST AS AN ASIDE, IT HAS NO
BASIC SERVICES WHATSOEVER, NO
ELECTRICITY, NO WATER, NO
SANITATION SYSTEM, NO ROADS, NO
TELEPHONE SYSTEM, AND PEOPLE
REALLY DO LIVE A BASE LECTURE-
A BASE LIFESTYLE-
BUT BECAUSE OF THE SECURITY,
THEY WANT TO GO THERE.
IN KABUL, OUR SOLDIERS LIVE
AMONGST 4 MILLION PEOPLE.
MY ESTIMATE IS 25 TO 50 OF THOSE
WOULD GLADLY WORK TO KILL THEM
AT ANY GIVEN DAY.
TWENTY-FIVE TO FIFTY.
FIFTY TO 150 WOULD PROBABLY, ON
ANY GIVEN DAY, HELP THAT FIRST
25 TO 50 DO THAT KILLING.
BUT 4 MILLION OF THOSE RESIDENTS
IN KABUL ARE ABSOLUTELY ECSTATIC
AND DELIGHTED THAT THOSE
SOLDIERS ARE THERE BECAUSE THEY
ACT AS A BEACON OF HOPE FOR
THOSE RESIDENTS.
THEY SEE THEM AS A LIGHT IN THE
TUNNEL, AND THEY SEE THEM AS
BRINGING STABILITY AND SECURITY
THAT, WITHOUT THEIR PRESENCE,
WOULD BE NON-EXISTENT.
AND I SAID TO THOSE SOLDIERS, AS
YOU GO OUT THE DOOR OF YOUR CAMP
TO CONDUCT YOUR OPERATIONS, IF
YOU TREAT ALL OF THAT 4 MILLION
POPULATION LIKE THAT FIRST GROUP
OR THE SECOND GROUP, THREE WEEKS
LATER THEY'LL ALL BE LINING UP
TO TAKE A CRACK AT YOU.
THE COMPLEXITIES OF DEALING WITH
THOSE OPERATIONS IN THIS VERY
DRAMATICALLY DIFFERENT SECURITY
ENVIRONMENT DEMAND AN INCREDIBLE
AMOUNT FROM US.
SO THE ENVIRONMENT HAS CHANGED,
THE THREAT HAS CHANGED.
WE'RE JUST STARTING TO ACTUALLY
COME TO TERMS WITH THAT.
LET ME JUST TALK A LITTLE BIT
ABOUT CANADA'S INTERNATIONAL
ROLE-
CANADA'S ROLE AS AN
INTERNATIONAL CITIZEN, AT LEAST
AS PERCEIVED BY FOLKS AROUND THE
WORLD.
IF I COULD ASK YOU A QUESTION
HERE, IT WOULD HELP ME ACTUALLY
ARTICULATE PERHAPS A LITTLE TINY
BIT BETTER.
I KNOW THAT MOST OF YOU, THE
VAST MAJORITY ARE HERE AS
STUDENTS AT CARLETON.
HOW MANY OF YOU ARE CANADIANS?
I'D LIKE TO SEE A RAISE IN
HANDS-
OKAY, PERHAPS I SHOULD'VE ASKED
IT THE OTHER WAY-
HOW MANY ARE NOT FROM CANADA
ORIGINALLY?
RIGHT.
YOU KNOW, AND I-
EITHER GROUP.
LET ME JUST
TELL YOU MY IMPRESSION.
HAVING LIVED IN CANADA, BORN AND
RAISED HERE IN THIS BEAUTIFUL
COUNTRY THAT WE HAVE,
HAVING BEEN OUTSIDE LIVING IN
PLACES AROUND THE WORLD AND THEN
HAVING GONE ON OPERATIONS AND
LIVED IN PLACES AROUND THE
WORLD.
WE LIVE IN
THE BEST COUNTRY IN THE WORLD.
WE HAVE RIGHTS AND PRIVILEGES
THAT ARE BUT A FANTASY FOR
98-99 percent OF THE REST OF THE
WORLD'S POPULATION.
WE HAVE THOSE RIGHTS AND
PRIVILEGES ENSHRINED IN A
CHARTER AND A CONSTITUTION THAT
HELP ENSURE THAT NO MAN, WOMAN,
OR CHILD IS LEFT BEHIND.
THE RULE OF LAW IS OUR BASIC
MODERATOR FOR OUR PERSONAL
BEHAVIOUR.
ALL OF US ASPIRE TO LIVE BY
THAT.
AND WHEN WE FAIL TO MEET THAT
STANDARD, WE HAVE THE MOST
PROFESSIONAL POLICE FORCE,
FORCES, AND PROFESSIONAL JUSTICE
SYSTEM THAT EXIST IN THE WORLD.
AND YOU COUPLE THAT TO A
STANDARD OF LIVING THAT IS BUT A
FANTASY FOR ANYBODY ELSE OUTSIDE
OF OUR BORDERS OR THE VAST
MAJORITY OF THEM, AND YOU HAVE A
COUNTRY THAT IS THE BEST IN THE
WORLD, IN MY VIEW.
WELL, WITH THAT, WITH OUR
MEMBERSHIP IN THE G8, WITH OUR
ADVOCACY IN THE UNITED NATIONS
OR THE RESPONSIBILITY TO PROJECT
AGENDA-
TO PROTECT AGENDA-
WITH OUR MEMBERSHIP IN NATO AND
OTHER MULTI-NATIONAL
ORGANIZATIONS AROUND THE WORLD,
COMES A PERCEPTION BY THE REST
OF THOSE POPULATIONS WHO DON'T
HAVE ANY OF THOSE THINGS, IS
THAT WE ARE GOING TO BE MAJOR
PLAYER TO HELP THEM DEVELOP.
AND SO WHEN I GO TO THEM AND SAY
WE'VE GOT 2,000 CANADIANS AND
SOLDIERS THAT ARE BEING DEPLOYED
AND THAT'S ALL THAT I CAN
GENERATE FROM MY FORCE, AND THAT
INDEED IS A SIGNIFICANT
PERCENTAGE OF MY FORCE, THEY'RE
UNIMPRESSED.
THEY WOULD TELL US, YOU'RE A G8
NATION, THE ONE OF THE RICHEST
NATIONS IN THE WORLD, REPEAT
WHAT I JUST SAID TO YOU-
AND SAY, WE EXPECT MORE FROM
YOU, CANADA.
NOW CANADA'S BEEN PLAYING A BIG
ROLE-
BUT THE DEMANDS FROM OUTSIDE,
DEMANDS FROM THOSE WHO DON'T
HAVE THEIR PRIVILEGES AND
LUXURIES, WILL BE THAT CANADA
CONTINUES TO PLAY A LARGE ROLE,
AND THAT THAT ROLE WILL GROW AND
NOT SHRINK.
I'M NOT JUST TALKING ABOUT THE
MILITARY ROLE, I'M TALKING ABOUT
WHAT I HEAD AND SEE FROM EVERY
FACET OF WHAT CANADA DOES.
THE MINISTER OF DEFENCE IN
AFGHANISTAN.
I SAID TO HIM ON THE FIRST DAYS
OF ARRIVAL-
WHAT CAN I DO FOR YOU MORE TO
HELP THE GOVERNMENT OF
AFGHANISTAN DEVELOP,
A LOT OF PEOPLE OF AFGHANISTAN
TO GET ON WITH THEIR LIVES
WITHOUT ALWAYS BEING CONCERNED
ABOUT SECURITY, ETC.
HE SAID, WELL, IF YOU' VE GOT
50,000 CANADIAN SOLDIERS, THAT
WOULD BE A GREAT START.
I SAID, WELL, I WISH I HAD
50,000 CANADIAN SOLDIERS, TOO.
SO IF ANYBODY IN THIS ROOM WOULD
LIKE TO JOIN UP AFTER, WE CAN
STEP PERHAPS TOWARDS THAT
FIGURE.
MY POINT IS THIS-
CANADA IS VIEWED AS THE IDEAL
AROUND THE WORLD.
WE ARE VIEWED AS LUXURIOUS.
WE ARE VIEWED AS HAVING
EVERYTHING THAT THOSE WHO ARE SO
MUCH LESS FORTUNATE WOULD
DESIRE.
AND AS A RESULT, THEY VIEW US AS
HAVING RESPONSIBILITIES TO COME
AND HELP THEM IN EVERY WAY AND
SHAPE AND FORM.
ONE OF THE THINGS-
ONE OF THE WAYS IM WHICH WE CAN
HELP IS PROVIDING LEADERSHIP IN
WHAT IS SOMETIMES A RUDDERLESS
WORLD.
AND FROM THE MILITARY
PERSPECTIVE, FROM OUR
GOVERNMENT'S PERSPECTIVE AROUND
THE WORLD, TO FILL VOIDS AND
SHAPE THINGS WITH CANADIAN
INTEREST AND IN ACCORDANCE WITH
CANADIAN VALUES HAS GOT TO BE
ONE OF THE OPPORTUNITIES THAT AS
WE GO FORWARD AND IMPLEMENT THE
NATIONAL SECURITY POLICY IN OUR
DEFENCE POLICY STATEMENT, THAT
WE CAN DO MUCH BETTER.
WHAT WE HAVE SEEN AROUND THE
WORLD AND PLACES THAT
DESPERATELY NEED HELP,
DESPERATELY NEED EFFICIENT
LEADERSHIP AND MANAGEMENT TO
MAKE THE HELP EFFECTIVE, IS A
STRATEGIC ANOREXIA WHICH
PREVENTS THE PROGRESS TO BE MADE
AS QUICKLY AS IT SHOULD BE.
THE THIRD POINT I'D LIKE TO TALK
TO YOU ABOUT IS THAT CANADA'S
CHARACTERISTICS REFLECTED IN
YOUR SOLDIERS, IN YOUR SAILORS,
AND YOUR AIR MEN AND YOUR AIR
WOMEN, MAKE US EXCEPTIONAL.
WHEN WE GO SOMEWHERE, WE ARE NOT
GOING THERE TO BUILD AN EMPIRE.
WE SIMPLY HAVE NO INTEREST.
WE ARE NOT GOING THERE TO OCCUPY
A COUNTRY.
WE SIMPLY HAVE NO INTEREST.
OUR MISSION, AS ARTICULATED
RIGHT DOWN TO AND INTERNALIZED
BY OUR MOST JUNIOR SERVICE MEN
AND SERVICE WOMEN IS TO GO AND
HELP OTHERS WHO DESPERATELY NEED
HELP.
AND INDEED, IN OUR MISSION IN
AFGHANISTAN, THAT IS EXACTLY
WHAT WE ARE DOING.
WE TALK ABOUT SECURITY, WHAT
ACTUALLY WE GET INVOLVED IN ALL
THE ASPECTS OF ALLOWING
AFGHANISTAN TO REBUILD ITSELF
AND RUN ITSELF WITHOUT US HAVING
TO BE THERE.
IN AFGHANISTAN, OUR MISSION, AS
I SAID, HELP THOSE WHO
DESPERATELY NEED HELP.
HELP AFGHANS REBUILD THEIR
COUNTRY BUT START BY REBUILDING
THEIR OWN LIVES, REBUILD THEIR
FAMILIES, REBUILD THEIR
COMMUNITIES, THEN REBUILD THE
COUNTRY, AND GET WELL ON THE WAY
TOWARDS REBUILDING THE STATE.
EVERYTHING THAT WE DO AS WE
CONDUCT OPERATIONS DESIGNED TO
PUT AN AFGHAN FACE ON ALL THAT
IS ACHIEVED.
WE HELPED THEM, IN NUMEROUS
WAYS, MOVE TO A CONSENSUS THAT
PRODUCE AN AFGHAN CONSTITUTION.
AND THEY DID IT.
AND IT WAS PAINFUL.
IT WAS KIND OF LIKE WATCHING
POLICY OR SAUSAGE BEING MADE-
BOTH WERE ACTUALLY KIND OF
REVOLTING AT TIMES-
BUT IT WAS PEOPLE INVOLVED AND
THEY WEREN'T OUR FOLKS.
THE AFGHAN CONSTITUTION IS A
CONSTITUTION PRODUCED BY AFGHANS
FOR THEIR POPULATION IN THEIR
COUNTRY.
NOW WE HELP
SET SOME CONTEXT SO THAT THEY
COULD ACTUALLY DO THAT,
INCLUDING PROVIDE SOME OF THAT
SECURITY.
BUT WHAT IS MOST IMPORTANT ABOUT
THIS IS THIS IS NOT A CANADIAN
CONSTITUTION FOR AFGHANISTAN OR
A WESTERN CONSTITUTION FOR
AFGHANISTAN.
THIS ACTUALLY IS AN AFGHAN
CONSTITUTION THAT REFLECTS
THEIR CULTURE, THEIR LIFE, AND
WHAT THEY WANT THEIR COUNTRY TO
BE.
THERE ARE
PEOPLE IN AFGHANISTAN WHO SAID
ALL THE TIME THAT WE WERE TRYING
TO IMPOSE A WESTERN STYLE OF
GOVERNANCE AND STRUCTURE ON THE
COUNTRY.
I SAID, YOU KNOW THAT
AFGHANISTAN WAS NEVER ACTUALLY
RULED BY A STRONG CENTRAL
GOVERNMENT AND WAS MORE A
REGIONALIZED COUNTRY, AND THAT'S
HOW, OF COURSE, IT WOULD BE
FOREVERMORE.
WELL, WE BEGGED TO DIFFER.
IN OUR DEALINGS WITH THE PEOPLE
OF AFGHANISTAN, WHAT WE SAW WAS
A TREMENDOUS DESE TO HAVE A
GOVERNMENT THAT COULD
EFFECTIVELY, UNDER A RULE OF
LAW, RUN THEIR COUNTRY.
TO SELECT THEIR LEADERS THROUGH
THE BALLOT.
AND I GOTTA TELL YOU, I WATCHED
IN AFGHANISTAN AS MEN AND WOMEN
WITH THEIR FAMILIES WALKED EIGHT
HOURS OVER TRAILS AND MOUNTAINS
AND THROUGH, IN SOME CASES,
STREAMS-
TO A BALLOT BOX OR TO A VOTER
REGISTRATION LOCATION, STOOD IN
LINE FOR 4, 5, OR 6 HOURS AT A
TIME JUST TO REGISTER TO VOTE-
THE MAN AND THE WIFE-
WALKED THE EIGHT HOURS BACK HOME
AND THEN FOUR MONTHS LATER
REPEATED IT ALL OVER AGAIN SO
THEY COULD ACTUALLY PARTICIPATE
IN SELECTING THEIR PRESIDENT AND
THEIR LEADER.
THAT W A POINT OF PRIDE WITH
THEM.
HOW MANY PEOPLE IN THIS ROOM, IF
I COULD ASK YOU TO SHOW YOUR
HAND HONESTLY, VOTED IN THE
ELECTION OF A YEAR AND A HALF
AGO IN JUNE OF 1920-
JUNE 20, 2004?
OKAY.
YOU ARE ALMOST A MINORITY IN OUR
COUNTRY.
NOW WE HAVE A VOTER
ESTABLISHMENT THAT IS DOWN THE
CORNER, YOU ACTUALLY HAVE TO
DRIVE MORE THAN TWO MINUTES IN
YOUR CAR, MOST PEOPLE ACTUALLY
DON'T GO TO DO IT.
CAN YOU THINK OF WALKING UNDER
THREAT OF LIFE 8 HOURS,
STANDING IN LINE FOR 5 HOURS,
AND WALKING HOME 8 HOURS, THEN
DOG IT ALL AGAIN WHEN IT'S
TIME TO GO AND VOTE.
THEY LEARNED THOSE LESSONS FROM
25 YEARS OF BRUTAL WAR.
THE COUNTRY WAS TORN APART,
TWO MILLION OR MORE WERE KILLED,
FOUR TO SIX MILLION WERE DRIVEN
OUT OF THE COUNTRY AS REFUGEES
AND, IN ESSENCE, THEIR SOCIETY
WAS ALMOST DESTROYED.
THE INFRASTRUCTURE WAS ALMOST
COMPLETELY RUINED.
THEY HAD DECIDED,
AFGHANS HAVE DECIDED,
THEY HAVE A CONSTITUTION.
THEY HAVE ELECTED A PRESIDENT.
THE ELECTION ON SUNDAY PASSED A
MINOR MIRACLE, AND A COUNTRY
THAT WAS JUST A FEW YEARS AGO
WAS BEING RUN BY AN INTOLERANT
GROUP OF MEN WHO STAYED IN POWER
BY DENYING IT TO ALL OTHERS IN
THEIR POPULATION-
THAT COUNTRY NOW HAS A
PARLIAMENT THAT IS ELECTED, OR
WILL BE AS SOON AS THOSE BALLOTS
ARE COUNTED.
AND WERE THOSE ELECTIONS
PERFECT?
NO, THEY WERE NOT.
BUT WERE THEY ELECTIONS THAT
ACTUALLY REFLECT THE WILL OF THE
AFGHAN POPULATION, AND WERE
THOSE ELECTIONS ENABLED BY THE
CHARACTERISTICS THAT CANADIAN
BRING TO AFGHANISTAN IN THE
OPERATION?
YES, THEY WERE.
WE ARE A COMPASSIONATE PEOPLE.
WE ARE ACTUALLY A PRETTY TOUGH
PEOPLE-
WHEN WE NEED TO BE.
WE HAVE AN ABILITY TO DISCERN
AMONGST ALL THE DIFFERENT THINGS
IN AN AREA AND BE ABLE TO PICK
OUT THE RIGHT APPROACH, AND WE
ARE IMPARTIAL-
EXCEPT WHEN IT COMES TO MAKING
SURE THAT MEN AND WOMEN, WHO ARE
THE MOST VULNERABLE AND FRAGILE,
AND CHILDREN, ARE BEING LOOKED
AFTER PROPERLY.
THEN WE ARE VERY PARTIAL AND
PREJUDICED TOWARDS THEM INDEED,
AND WE'RE SURE THAT WE DO LOOK
AFTER THEM.
WE ARE EXCEPTIONAL,
IN EVERY SENSE OF THE WORD,
IN OUR SOCIETY.
BUT SOMETIMES, WITH
EXCEPTIONALITY COMES
COMPLACENCY.
A COMPLACENCY THAT BELIEVES THAT
THE REST OF THE WORLD IS LIKE
THIS, AND THAT AROUND THE REST
OF THE WORLD, EVERYBODY IS
LOGICAL, AND COHERENT, AND
WILLING TO LISTEN TO REASON-
AND UNFORTUNATELY, THAT IS NOT
SO.
I WOULD TELL YOU TWO THINGS.
ONE IS THAT OUR SOCIETY IS
ACTUALLY SITTING ON TOP OF A
FRAGILE INTERNATIONAL STRUCTURE,
AND OUR SOCIETY IS NOT
GUARANTEED TO CONTINUE UNLESS WE
WORK AT IT.
SECONDLY IS THAT, AROUND THE
WORLD, THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO
REFUSE TO LISTEN TO REASON, WHO
REFUSE TO FOLLOW A LINE OF
LOGIC, AND WHO SELECT THE AK-47,
THE KALASHNIKOV OR THE GRENADE,
AS THEIR WAY OF INFLUENCING
THINGS TO THEIR SATISFACTION.
AND SOMETIMES YOU CAN REASON
WITH THEM TEMPORARILY,
AND SOMETIMES YOU CAN DISCUSS
THINGS WITH THEM AND MOVE THEM A
SLIGHT WAYS ALONG.
BUT IT'S ALWAYS THAT THEY COME
BACK TO WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO
ACHIEVE AND ACHIEVING IT BY A
KALASHNIKOV AND, OCCASIONALLY,
CANADIAN TOUGHNESS HAS TO BE
PREPARED TO BACK UP OUR VALUES
AND OUR BELIEFS AND CONFRONT
PEOPLE LIKE THAT.
IN A TOWN CALLED PRIJEDOR IN
BOSNIA, IN 1992 TO 1996 I SPENT
A CONSIDERABLE AMOUNT OF TIME
THERE, POPULATION ABOUT 130,000.
INCIDENTALLY, ANYBODY HERE FROM
BOSNIA?
130,000 PEOPLE.
VERY, VERY DIVERSIFIED,
BOSNIAN-SERBS, BOSNIAN-CROATIAN,
AND BOSNIACS WHO WERE PRIMARILY
BOSNIAN-MUSLIMS.
AFTER THE
COUNTRY BROKE UP AND CHAOS
ENSUED, THE BOSNIAN-SERBS
CLEANSED THAT TOWN OF ALMOST ALL
OF THE CROATIANS AND THE
BOSNIACS, AND IN FACT SOME
25,000 PEOPLE IN THE
CONCENTRATION CAMPS THAT WERE
ESTABLISHED AT OMARSKAIN THE
REGI RIGHT AROUND IT, WERE
BRUTALIZED, TORTURED, STRIPPED
OF THEIR DIGNITY, AND ALMOST ALL
KILLED.
MOST OF THE BODIES NEVER, EVER
FOUND.
WHEN WE
ARRIVED IN THAT TOWN, WE
DISCOVERED A TREMENDOUSLY
VULNERABLE POPULATION, LARGE
NUMBERS OF REFUGEES OUTSIDE, A
CHIEF OF POLICE WHO WAS THE
EQUIVALENT OF CLIFFORD OLSEN,
OUR SERIAL KILLER HERE IN
CANADA, A MAYOR WHO WAS THE
EQUIVALENT OF PAUL BERNARDO, AND
A CHIEF OF PUBLIC SECURITY WHO
WAS THE EQUIVALENT OF KARLA
HOMOLKA.
HOW DO YOU REASONABLY DEAL WITH
PELE LIKE THAT?
THEY WERE MURDERERS AND KILLERS-
SERIAL KILLERS-
AND THEY PREYED ON THE YOUNG,
AND THE OLD, AND THE VULNERABLE,
AND THE FRAGILE.
CANADIAN TOUGHNESS IS A
CHARACTERISTIC WHICH THOSE
VICTIMS SAW AS AN INCREDIBLY
POWERFUL THING.
IT PUTS OUR SOLDIERS, OUR
SAILORS, OUR AIR MEN AND AIR
WOMEN INTO SIGNIFICANTLY
HIGH-STRESS PLACES AT TIMES, I
TELL YOU, WHEN I ARRIVED IN
AFGHANISTAN AND TOOK OVER
COMMAND OF THE NATO FORCE THERE
BACK IN JANUARY OF LAST YEAR,
SAILING INTO AN ENTIRELY
DIFFERENT CULTURE,
A CULTURE THAT WAS COMPLETELY
MASCULINE, THE WOMEN WERE TRULY
SEGREGATED FROM THE SOCIETY-
THAT'S CHANGING, BUT SLOWLY-
A CULTURE WHERE WE HAD A
SIGNIFICANT NUMBER OF WARLORDS,
MANY WOULD EARN THEIR KEEP BY 20
YEARS TRULY OF FIGHTING,
AND ON ABOUT DAY 3 OR 4 I WENT
OUT TO MY FIRST MAJOR EVENT.
I UNDERSTAND THAT HERE IN THE
AUDIENCE TONIGHT THERE'S A-
THERE ARE A LARGE NUMBER OF
JOURNALIST STUDENTS, IS THAT
CORRECT?
CAN I SEE THE HANDS OF THE
JOURNALIST STUDENTS HERE
TONIGHT?
I SAW BRUCE CAMPION-SMITH THERE,
TOO, HE WAS A FRIEND OF MINE AND
A REPORTER, OF COURSE, OUT OF
TORONTO, AND SAID-
I WENT TO THIS EVENT, I WAS
SURROUNDED BY ABOUT 75-100
ROGUES AND SCALAWAGS.
THAT'S A NEWFOUNDLAND TERM.

[Audience laughs]

Hillier continues I WAS
PRETTY NERVOUS FOR A WHILE.
BUT THEN I REALIZED IT WAS JUST
THE MEDIA THAT WAS FOLLOWING ME
AROUND, AND I WAS VERY MUCH MORE
COMFORTED AFTER THAT FACT.

[Audience laughs]

Hillier continues THAT'S
EXACTLY THE SAME BACK HERE IN
OTTAWA.
[Applause]
CANADA IS
EXCEPTIONAL.
WE BRING INCREDIBLE QUALITIES
AND CHARACTERISTICS AND THE PLUS
THINGS TO ORGANIZATIONS AND TO
OPERATIONS, AND MOSTLY WHAT WE
BRING ARE OUR VALUES.
WE'RE THERE TO HELP PEOPLE.
WE'RE NOT THERE TO OCCUPY.
WE'RE NOT THERE TO BUILD AN
EMPIRE.
WE'D JUST SOON BE OUT OF
AFGHANISTAN OR SUDAN TOMORROW-
BUT IF WE NEED TO BE THERE TO
HELP THOSE FRAGILE AND
VULNERABLE POPULATIONS SURVIVE
AND GET A LEG UP AND GET GOING
AND NOT HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT THE
HOUSE BEING BURNED TOMORROW OR A
FAMILY BRUTALIZED, OR THE
HUSBAND MURDERED, THEN WE'RE
GONNA BE THERE TO DO EXACTLY
THAT.
FOURTH
POINT I'LL TALK TO YOU ABOUT-
IT'S ALL ABOUT SECURITY.
I COME AT THIS, THOUGH, FROM A
SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVE.
I VIEW IT THREE SEPARATE WAYS,
ONLY ONE OF WHICH WE REALLY ARE
INVOLVED WITH.
IT'S ABOUT PSYCHOLOGICAL
SECURITY, HOPE, IT'S ABOUT AN
ABSENCE OF WAR OR SHORT-TERM
SECURITY, AND IT'S ABOUT REAL OR
SUSTAINABLE SECURITY.
LET ME JUST TELL YOU WHAT I MEAN
HERE.
WE GO INTO A COUNTRY AND EITHER
WITH FOLKS WHO ARE TRYING TO
REBUILD THEIR OWN COUNTRY, OR TO
HELP THEM MOVE TOWARDS
IDENTIFYING GROUPS WHO ARE
TRYING TO BUILD A COUNTRY.
THE FIRST THING THAT WE BECOME
IS A BEACON OF HOPE.
WE BECOME A LIGHT.
THE VICTIMS ARE NOT IN THIS
ALONE.
THEY HAVE SOME HELP AND THE
WESTERN WORLD HAS NOT ABANDONED
THEM TO THE FATES THAT ARE
TRULY, TRULY TRAGIC.
THEY START TO HAVE SOME HOPE,
AND WITH THAT, THERE'S A
PSYCHOLOGICAL EFFECT, A
CONFIDENCE THAT IS OBVIOUS AND
TANGIBLE, AND VISCERAL FOR ALL
OF US.
THEY ACTUALLY START TO THINK
ABOUT REBUILDING A HOUSE.
IDENTIFYING WAR CRIMINALS.
LOOKING AFTER MANY OF THE
ORPHANS OR THE MORE VULNERABLE
PARTS OF THE POPULATION, AND
ACTUALLY BEHAVING AS A
POPULATION IN CIVILIZATION AS
OPPOSED TO INDIVIDUALS WHO HAVE
BEEN DRIVEN FROM IT.
PSYCHOLOGICAL SECURITY IS AN
INCREDIBLE FACTOR AND, ABOVE ALL
ELSE, I BELIEVE THAT IS THE
IMPORTANT THING THAT WE ACTUALLY
BRING-
BECAUSE IT ENABLES THEM TO HAVE
THE MENTAL ENERGY TO ACTUALLY
START REBUILDING THEIR OWN
COUNTRY.
WHAT WE DO BRING, THOUGH, IS AN
ABSENCE OF WAR, OR AN ABSENCE OF
OPEN HOSTILITIES IN MOST CASES.
NOW WE OPEN UP A SECURITY
WINDOW, MOVE IN, OPEN IT UP-
BUT THEN IF WE'RE NOT BUILDING A
COUNTRY AND A NATION THAT
ACALLY STARTS MOVING THROUGH
THAT WINDOW AND PICKS THE EDGE
OF THE WINDOW UP ON ITS
SHOULDERS AND GROWS THROUGH IT,
AND DEVELOPS IT, WE WILL FAIL.
THAT SECURITY WINDOW WILL STAY
OPEN ONLY A SHORT PERIOD OF
TIME.
AND SO WHILE WE ARE THERE,
WHILST WE ARE DOING OUR VERY
SPECIFIC MILITARY OPERATIONS, OF
PATROLS AND OTHER KINDS OF
THINGS, IF WE ARE NOT HELPING
BUILD A GOVERNMENT THAT IS
CAPABLE AS FAST AS WE CAN, WE
WILL FAIL.
IF WE'RE NOT GETTING A POLICE
FORCE THAT ACTUALLY POLICES
INSTEAD OF DOMINATES, WE WILL
FAIL.
IF WE'RE
NOT BUILDING AN AFGHAN NATIONAL
ARMY OR A NATIONAL ARMY IN ANY
OTHER COUNTRY WHERE WE GO, THAT
IS EFFECTIVE, PROFESSIONAL, AND
RESPONDS TO AND IS RESPONSIBLE
TO CIVIL AUTHORITY, WE WILL
FAIL.
AND IF
WE'RE NOT HELPING PEOPLE PUT A
SYSTEM IN PLACE THAT EDUCATES,
THAT HEALS, AND THAT IN FACT
LOOKS AFTER THE POPULATION, WE
WILL FAIL.
AND LASTLY, IT'S ALL ABOUT THE
ECONOMY, STUPID,
IT'S THAT GREAT PHASE.
IF WE'RE NOT HELPING BUILD AN
ECONOMY THAT CAN SUSTAIN ALL OF
THE ABOVE, WE WILL FAIL.
NOW YOU MAY SAY TO YOURSELF,
THAT'S NOT TRADITIONAL MILITARY
BUSINESS.
WELL, REMEMBER POINT ONE-
THIS IS NOT A TRADITIONAL
MILITARY WAR.
WE ARE INTO THE BUSINESS OF
HELPING PEOPLE.
WE CANNOT CARRY ON IN KABUL, FOR
EXAMPLE, DOING PATROL AFTER
PATROL AFTER PATROL AND SIT BY
AND NOT SEE A GOVERNMENT BEING
BUILT AS FAST AS WE'D LIKE.
NOT SEE A POLICE FORCE BEING
PROFESSIONALIZED, READY TO
PLEASE ITS POPULATION AS FAST AS
WE'D LIKE, AND ALL THE OTHER
THINGS, AND NOT GET INVOLVED.
AND SO WE DO.
WITH THE GOVERNMENT OF
AFGHANISTAN RIGHT NOW, WE HAVE A
STRATEGIC ADVISORY TEAM, A TEAM
OF STRATEGIC PLANNERS.
MEN AND WOMEN IN UNIFORM PLUS
TWO CIVILIANS THAT WE HAVE GIVEN
TO THE GOVERNMENT OF AFGHANISTAN
AS ONE OF THE WAYS THEY CAN
MANAGE THE INVESTMENT COMING
INTO THEIR COUNTRY TO ACHIEVE A
FAR GREATER EFFECT.
WHY AREN'T THEY DOING IT
THEMSELVES?
YOU MAY ASK.
THE REALITY IS, IN THAT
GOVERNMENT STRUCTURE AFTER 25
YEARS OF BRUTALITY, THE MOST OF
THE FOLKS WHO HAD THE CAPACITY
TO DO THAT ARE EITHER LIVING IN
THE WEST OR THEY'RE DEAD.
AND SO THEY REALLY NEED SOME
PERIOD OF TIME TO BUILD THAT
CAPACITY, BUT ON THE INTERIM,
THINGS ARE BEING LEFT UNDONE.
WE'RE HELPING THEM DO THAT.
OUR PROVINCIAL RECONSTRUCTION
TEAM DOWN IN KANDAHAR PROVINCE
IN THE SOUTH IS DOING EXACTLY
THE SAME THING WITH THE PROVINCE
ITSELF.
WHILST THEY ARE DOING THAT, WE
ARE TRAINING POLICE
WHILST THEY ARE DOING THAT, WE
ARE HELPING TRAIN THE AFGHAN
NATIONAL ARMY AND HELPING ENSURE
THAT ITS COMMANDING CONTROL
SYSTEMS FUNCTION AND ARE
RESPONSIBLE TO THE CIVIL
AUTHORITY.
AND WHILST WE ARE DOING THAT,
WE'RE WORKING WITH ALL OF THOSE
ORGANIZATIONS TO MAKE SURE THAT
THE STABILITY IS INCREASING,
THAT THE CONFIDENCE, THE
PSYCHOLOGICAL SECURITY, IS
INCREASING, AND THAT THEY ARE
MOVING TO BE ABLE TO DO IT
THEMSELVES.
WE DO ALL OF THOSE THINGS
BECAUSE THAT IS ACTUALLY REAL
SECURITY.
THE SEA OF OPERATIONS, THE
CANADIAN FORCES OPERATIONS, ARE
AT FULL SPECTRUM.
WE STILL DO COMBAT.
NOT EVERYBODY LIKES THIS.
PEOPLE WORRY ABOUT US ASKING
PEOPLE TO GO INTO HIGH-RISK
SITUATIONS AND PUT YOUR LIFE ON
THE LINE.
AND WE DO.
AND THEY RESPOND MAGNIFICENTLY.
BUT YOU KNOW SOMETHING THAT'S
EVEN MORE STRESSFUL THAN ASKING
A MAN OR A WOMAN TO RISK THEIR
OWN LIFE IS ASKING THEM TO
POTENTIALLY BE PUT IN A PLACE
WHERE THEY ARE GOING TO TAKE THE
LIFE OF ANOTHER.
THEY DON'T LIKE IT,
THAT'S NOT WHAT THEY WANT TO DO,
BUT EVEN WITH THAT,
OCCASIONALLY, TO PROTECT THE
VULNERABLE, THAT IS REQUIRED.
WE'VE GOT TO BE ABLE TO DO THE
NATION-BUILDING, AND WE'VE GOT
TO BE ABLE TO KEEP PEOPLE ALIVE,
AND KEEP THEM IN THEIR HOMES
WHILE WE'RE DOING THE OTHER TWO,
AND WE'VE GOT TO BE ABLE TO DO
ALL OF THAT IN ONE TOWN OR CITY
AND ALL OF IT CONCURRENTLY, AND
ALL OF IT SUCCESSFULLY.
IF YOU FAIL AT THE SECURITY
OPERATIONS, YOU CAN'T BUILD A
GOVERNMENT.
IF YOU FAIL BUILDING A
GOVERNMENT AND A POLICE FORCE,
YOU CAN PATROL 'TIL THE COWS
COME HOME, AND YOU WILL NOT
CHANGE A SINGLE THING.
AND IF YOU DON'T KEEP THE PEOPLE
ALIVE, AND LIVING IN THEIR HOME
COUNTRY OR HOME OR TOWN OR
REGION, THEN YOU HAVE NOTHING TO
BUILD UP ON.
AND IF YOU'RE NOT DOING ALL
THREE, IN CT, WHAT WE CALL THE
3-BLOC WAR, YOU'RE GONNA FAIL.
WE'RE NOT GOING TO FAIL.
WE'RE ESTABLISHING A NEW
STRUCTURE OF CANADIAN FORCES-
ONE COMMANDER, ONE TEAM, ONE
SMALL COMMAND STAFF SUPPORTING
HIM OR HER- TO RUN INTERNATIONAL
OPERATIONS.
TO TAKE THIS CONCEPT OF THE
3-BLOC WAR, WHICH HAS BEEN
ARTICULATED IN OUR DEFENCE
POLICY AND TAKE IT TO THE
MAXIMUM LEVEL THAT WE POSSIBLY
CAN.
ONE COMMANDER FOCUSSED ON THAT-
TO RUN OPERATIONS AND MAKE
OURSELVES MUCH, MUCH MORE
EFFECTIVE.
THOSE MISSIONS ARE COMPLEX.
THEY'RE MULTI-NATIONAL.
I WAS JUST TALKING TO A LADY
FROM SCOTLAND DOWN HERE.
I RAN THE ORGANIZATION IN ISF,
35 NATIONS-
THE QUESTION I ALWAYS GOT WHEN
PEOPLE CAME TO VISIT WAS,
IS THERE A PROBLEM WITH
LANGUAGES?
SAID, YES, THERE WAS.
I NEVER UNDERSTOOD A SINGLE WORD
THAT BRITISH SOLDIER SPOKE T
ME DURING MY ENTIRE TIME IN
COMMAND.

[Audience laughs]

Hillier continues AND THAT
WAS A SIGNIFICANT CHALLENGE.
FIFTH POINT.
DOMESTIC CONCERNS ARE NO-FAIL
FOR US.
PRIORITY ONE-
WE'VE SAID THAT, WE ACTUALLY
SAID THAT IN THE PAST.
NOW, WE'RE ACTUALLY TAKING THE
STEPS TO ORGANIZE OURSELVES, TO
ACQUIRE THE CAPABILITIES, TO DO
THE CONTINGENCY PLANNING, AND TO
SET IN PLACE THE NECESSARY
CAPABILITIES SIT'LBE TRU
WE HAVE ONE COMMANDER-
ONE DOG FOR ME TO KICK AROUND,
SO TO SPEAK, WHEN I NEED TO-
TO RUN OPERATIONS IN CANADA.
AND IF I WANTED TO DO THAT
UNDER THE PRESENT STRUCTURE, I'D
HAVE TO GO DOWN TO THE KENNEL
BECAUSE THERE ARE SO MANY DOGS
INVOLVED.
I WANT ONE COMMANDER WHO HAS
RESPONSIBILITY AND
ACCOUNTABILITY TO LAY OUT FOR
CROSCANADA TO SEE OFF RESPONSE
TO DOMESTIC TRAGEDIES,
DISASTERS, OR REQUIREMENTS.
IF THERE'S ONE THING THAT THE
HURRICANE SEVERAL WEEKS AGO, I
THINK, TAUGHT ALL OF US, OR
RE-TAUGHT, WAS THAT THE GREATEST
WEAPON OF MASS DESTRUCTION IS
STILL MOTHER NATURE.
AND I JUST
CAME BACK, I WAS DOWN ON FRIDAY
AND SATURDAY TO THE SOUTH, I
SPENT SOME TIME WITH OUR TASK
GROUP AND HAD A CHANCE TO GO FOR
ABOUT 200 MILES, 150-200 MILES
TO NEW ORLEANS ACROSS TO BILOXI
AND MISSISSIPPI.
AND I'D THINK THAT THE PICTURES
THAT YOU SEE ON CNN OR TV, THE
PICTURES THAT YOU SEE IN THE
MAGAZINES AND NEWSPAPERS DIDN'T
DO JUSTICE FOR ME.
IT DIDN'T
TELL ME WHAT THE SCALE AND SCOPE
WAS.
NOW WHEN I ARRIVED THERE, THE
ONLY THING I COULD THINK TO
DESCRIBE, AND PERHAPS SOME OF
YOU HAVE SEEN IT, ARE THE
PICTURES FROM HIROSHIMA IN 1945
WHEN NUCLEAR WEAPON WENT OFF,
THERE'S ONE BUILDING PARTIALLY
STANDING THERE, AND THERE'S
ANOTHER BUILDING PARTIALLY
STANDING THERE, AND IN BETWEEN
EVERYTHING IS RAZED, EVERYTHING
IS FLATTENED, EVERYTHING IS
DESTROYED.
WELL, THAT'S THE LANDSCAPE THAT
WE SAW AND WE'VE GOT TO BE
PREPARED-
CLEARLY, RESPONSIBLY, AND
EFFECTIVELY TO BE ABLE TO HELP
CANADIANS WHEN THEY NEED HELP
HERE IN OUR HOME COUNTRY.
THE RESPONSIBILITY TO PROTECT
BEGINS HERE AT HOME, AND THAT'S
OUR NUMBER ONE PRIORITY, NOW WE
ARE ACTUALLY, RADICALLY
RESHAPING THE CANADIAN FORCES TO
MAKES SURE THAT WE CAN BE
EFFECTIVE AT DOING EXACTLY THAT.
I KEEP TELLING MY FOLKS-
WE'LL GET ONE CHANCE TO DO THIS
RIGHT.
SOMETHING BIG HAPPENS, A NATURAL
EVENT, FLOOD, FIRES,
EARTHQUAKES, HURRICANES,
TYPHOON, ICE STORM-
WE'VE HAD THEM ALL-
AND WE WILL AGAIN.
WE WILL BE READY WHEN CANADIANS
NEED US.
DOMESTIC CONCERNS ARE NO-FAIL
FOR US.
INTEREST VERSUS VALUES.
HERE'S HILLIER'S PERSONAL
PERSPECTIVE-
IN OUR COUNTRY, WHICH I SAID IS
EXCEPTIONAL, WHICH I SAID IS
ALSO SOMETIMES COMPLACENT
BECAUSE WE ARE SUCH AN
EXCEPTIONAL SOCIETY-
BEFORE 11 SEPTEMBER, WHEN WE
DEPLOYED CANADIAN FORCES, MEN
AND WOMEN, AROUND THE WORLD,
WE DID SO LARGELY BECAUSE OF OUR
VALUES.
IT WAS UNACCEPTABLE FOR US TO
ACTUALLY SEE GENOCIDE TAKE PLACE
IN THE FORM OF YUGOSLAVIA, AND
TO WITNESS WITHOUT DOING
SOMETHING ABOUT THAT TERRIBLE
TRAGEDY THAT WAS OCCURRING.
BUT WE DIDN'T HAVE ANY
ARTICULATION OF CANADIAN
NATIONAL INTEREST INVOLVED IN
THOSE DEPLOYMENTS BY AND LARGE.
AND AS A RESULT OF THAT, DOING
THIS ON VALUES, JUST GO FORTH
AND DO SOME GOOD-
WE SHAPED OUR MISSIONS, WE
SHAPED OUR ROTATIONS OUT OF
COUNTRY, WE SHAPED OUR TRAINING,
AND WE CERTAINLY SHAPED THE
AMOUNT OF RISK THAT WE WOULD
TAKE FOR THOSE UNITS AND THOSE
MEN AND WOMEN BASED ON VALUES.
SINCE THE CHANGE THAT WAS
ARTICULATED ON 11 SEPTEMBER, AND
THE DEVELOPMENT OF THIS NEW
SECURITY DYNAMIC IN WHICH WE
WORK WHERE THE THREAT IS VERY
OBVIOUS, ALBEIT VERY DIFFERENT,
I BELIEVE THAT WHAT WE DO NOW IS
A COMBINATION OF INTEREST AND
VALUES.
WE KNOW THAT IF WE'RE NOT PART
OF BRINGING STABILITY TO PLACES
THAT ARE INHERENTLY UNSTABLE,
THAT INSTABILITY WILL COME TO
ROOST IN CANADA.
DIRECTLY OR INDIRECTLY, IT
REALLY DOESN'T MATTER.
AND SO IT NO LONGER IS AN OPTION
OF SHOULD WE DO THIS BECAUSE
IT'S THE RIGHT THING TO DO, BUT
SHOULD WE DO THIS BECAUSE IT IS
IN CANADA'S NATIONAL INTEREST TO
DO IT?
SO WE BELIEVE AT WHEN WE ASK
THOSE YOUNG MEN AND WOMEN TO GO
FORTH AND DO CERTAIN THINGS THAT
DEMAND HIGH RISK, THAT ARE
ALWAYS HIGH-STRESS, THAT ARE
ALWAYS TIME AWAY FROM HOME, THAT
THEY'RE DOING IT FOR OUR
COUNTRY.
THEY LOOK AFTER OUR INTEREST,
AND THEY DO IT IN ACCORDANCE
WITH OUR VALUES.
THEY CARRY THOSE VALUES ABROAD
JUST AS SURELY AS THEY CARRY THE
MAPLE LEAF ON THEIR SHOULDER.
THE LAST THING I'LL TALK TO YOU
ABOUT-
EVERYTHING WE DO ON CANADA'S
BEHALF IS BASED ON PEOPLE.
WE MOVE DOWN A TECHNOLOGICAL
ROAD AND SOMETIME DURING THE
D-90s WE GOT INTO A PERIOD
WHERE WE WERE TALKING ABOUT
NETWORK-ENABLED OPERATIONS,
NETWORK-CENTRIC WARFARE, AND WE
HAD PLANS TO SPEND BILLIONS
HIGH TECHNOLOGY NETWORKS THAT
WERE GOING TO ALLOW US TO
ACCOMPLISH A WHOLE BUNCH OF
THINGS.
AND WHAT WE MISSED WAS THAT WE
BUILT OUR NETWORKS OF PEOPLE
FIRST.
D THEN WE ENABLE THOSE
NETWORKS WITH THE APPROPRIATE
TECHNOLOGY, AND WE TAKE AN
PETITE SUPPRESSA ON THAT
TECHNOLOGY 'CAUSE IT C
BANKRUPT YOU IN A HEARTBEAT.
AND THAT'S WHAT GIVES US OUR
CAPACITY OUT THE DOOR.
WE HAVE
CANADIANS OF CHARACTER, WEARING
OUR UNIFORM AROUND THE WORLD AND
IN CANADA, CANADIANS WHO HAVE
INTEGRITY, WHO BELIEVE THAT
SERVICE BEFORE SELF IS ACTUALLY
A PRETTY FINE CONCEPT,
WHO ARE WILLING TO SERVE THEIR
COUNTRY AND O DO SO LOYALLY
DESPITE THE FACT THAT, AT TIMES,
THEY WILL PUT IN
CIRCUMSTANCES WHERE THE RISK IS
ENORMOUS.
WE HAD 7 CANADIAN SOLDIERS
KILLED IN AFGHANISTAN IN THIS
LA SEVERAL YEARS.
THE DYNAMIC
IS STRESSFUL.
AS I SAID, LIVING IN KABUL,
OPERATING, WORKING, SERVING
AMONGST THE POPULATION TT ARE
OVERWHELMINGLY DELIGHTED THAT
YOU'RE THERE, THAT ARE
AMBIVALENT OR HOSTILE TO YOU,
OR FOR A FEW THAT WOULD LIKE TO
KILL YOU.
WE REALLY DO BUILD ON THE
CONCEPT OF THE POWER OF ONE BUT
THE SYNERGY OF A TEAM.
NOW WE BUILD FOR SUCCESS ON
CANADIANS-
CAPABLE, DEDICATED MEN AND WOMEN
WHO ARE YOUR CREDENTIALS.
THEY ARE INCREDIBLE-
WE A A LOT FROM THEM, THE
TEMPLE THAT WE SUBJECT THEM TO
IS ALWAYS INCREDIBLY HIGH END
TECHNOLOGY DOES NOT REPLACE
THAT.
I FAILED TO MEET A SINGLE
WARLORD IN AFGHANISTAN WHO WAS
DETERRED OR CAUSED TO BE AFRAID
TO DO SOMETHING BY A MODEM.
HE HAD TO BE TALKED TO AND DEALT
WITH BY PEOPLE, AND PEOPLE
BECAME OUR STANDARD.
LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, I'M GOING
TO END THERE AND SAY THAT IT HAS
BEEN A DELIGHT TO TALK TO YOU
ABOUT THOSE POINTS,
A DELIGHT TO BE HERE IN UNIFORM
AND SAY THAT THE CANADIAN FORCES
ARE ONE OF OUR FINEST
INSTITUTIONS WHO, THEY ARE
NOT REPRESENTING THE VALUES OF
CANADA, WOULD FAIL.
WE ARE REPRESENTING THE VALUES
OF CANADA.
WE TAKE MISSIONS AS PART OF OUR
COUNTRY'S CONTRIBUTION
INTERNATIONALLY, WE'RE THERE
BECAUSE PEOPLE NEED HELP, AND WE
CAN PROVIDE A LOT OF THAT HELP.
WHEN WE GO, WE'RE HOPING TO PUT
THAT LOCAL FACE WHAT IS
OCCURRING AND NOT SHAPING IT THE
WAY WE WANT.
AND WHEN WE DO IT, WE DO IT WITH
OUR INTEREST IN MIND, AND WE DO
IT WITH OUR VALUES FOREMOST AS
WE CARRY OUT THE WORK.
MY JOB IS TO ENSURE THAT WHAT I
ASK EACH AND EVERY ONE OF THOSE
WOMEN TO DO IS POSSIBLE, THAT I
HAVE SET CONDITIONS FOR SUCCESS
BEFORE THEY COMMENCE THE JOB,
AND LASTLY, THAT I'VE REDUCED
THE RISK TO THEM AS THEY DO THAT
WORK DOWN TO THE LOWEST LEVEL
POSSIBLE.
IT CANNOT ALWAYS REDUCE THE RISK
TO ZERO.
I THANK YOU FOR YOUR ATTENTION,
I AM DELIGHTED TO BE HERE THIS
EVENING, AND'LL BE PREPARED TO
ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU
MIGHT ASK ME.
THANK YOU.

[Applause]

Now a man from the audience, in his thirties, says
UM, MY QUESTION'S A SIMPLE
ONE, SIR.
IT'S THE ELEPHANT IN THE ROOM
THAT NO ONE'S TALKING ABOUT.
YOU DIDN'T ADDRESS IT ONCE IN
YOUR TALK.
WHAT ARE YOU DOING, WHAT'S THE
CANADIAN FORCES DOING TO PROTECT
CANADA AND THE REST OF THE WORLD
FROM THE UNITED STATES, WHICH IS
INCREASINGLY BELLIGERENT-

[Audience hoots]
[Applause]

The man continues says VIOLENT, IGNORING
INTERNATIONAL LAW, IGNORING THE
UNITED NATIONS, AND GOING INTO
COUNTRIES AND CONDUCTING ILLEGAL
WARS BASED ON FALSE PREMISES
AND-
WHAT ARE ESSENTIALLY LIES.

[Applause]

Hillier says WE'RE PART
OF A STABLE SECURITY-
SECURE SOCIETY HERE AT HOME-

The man says WELL, YOU DIDN'T MENTION THE
UNITED STATES ONCE.

Hillier continues LET ME JUST-
LET ME JUST TELL YOU-
WE'RE HELPING TO BE A PART OF
SECURING CANADIANS HERE AT HOME.
WE'RE PART OF OUR GOVERNMENT
STRUCTURE THAT DOES-
WE'RE PART OF THIS GREAT SOCIETY
AND WE WORK EVERYDAY TO ENSURE
THAT CANADIANS ARE SECURE AND IF
SOMETHING OCCURS WE CAN MITIGATE
DAMAGE, REDUCE IT, AND OF
COURSE, REDUCE ANY IMPACT FROM IT.
SO WE WORK EVERYDAY AT HOME.
HAS THE 32 MILLION AFGHANS ASK
THE FOLKS ON OTHER MISSIONS
WHERE WE ARE AROUND THE WORLD,
WHAT WERE YOU DOING TO HELP
INCREASE WORLD STABILITY, MAKE
THEIR LIVES BETTER, AS A RESULT
OF WORKING IN A SPECIFIC COUNTRY
FOR STABILITY, STABILIZE A
REGION, REDUCE TENSIONS OVERALL,
AND THEREFORE MAKE A MORE STABLE
INTERNATIONAL SCENE WHICH
BENEFITS CANADA DIRECTLY.
WE'RE INVOLVED IN DOING THAT
WITH A GREAT NUMBER OF PARTNERS
AROUND THE WORLD, INCLUDES, AT
TIMES, THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.

[Applause]

Now another man from the audience says AS CHIEF OF THE CANADIAN
DEFENCE STAFF, YOU HAVE FAILED
THE CANADIAN PUBLIC IN
PROTECTING US AGAINST THE
GREATEST THREAT-
U.S. FOREIGN POLICY.
I'M HEREBY-
MY QUESTION IS-

On stage, standing next to Hillier, a woman in her fifties says SHALL I ASK YOU TO-

The man continues says MY QUESTION COMES RIGHT NOW,
THANK YOU.
I'M HEREBY ASKING YOU TO RESIGN
UNDER THE PUBLIC ENQUIRY-

[Audience boos]
[Scattered applause]

The man continues says THAT A PUBLIC ENQUIRY IS
LAUNCHED ON THE ROLE THAT THE
CANADIAN FORCE HALF PLAYED IN
HUMAN RIGHTS VIOLATIONS IN
AFGHANISTAN'S AND THAT, YES, ALL
OF US ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR IT
BECAUSE WE PAY OUR TAXES-

The woman says CAN I ASK YOU, DO YOU HAVE A
QUESTION, SIR?

The man concludes
YEAH, MY QUESTION IS, WILL
YOU RESIGN RIGHT NOW, PLEASE?

[Audience laughs]

Hillier continues NO.

[Cheers and applause]

Hillier says THANK YOU.

[Applause]

The woman says NEXT QUESTION, PLEASE?
NEXT QUESTION PLEASE, OVER HERE?

Another man in his twenties says I THINK THE ORGANIZERS OF
THIS LECTURE AND THE UNIVERSITY
ITSELF, THEY'VE ACTUALLY DONE A
DISSERVICE TO THE UNIVERSITY AND
TO THE IDEA OF A UNIVERSITY.

[Audience mumbling]
[Some boos]

The man says I'M JUST MOTIVATING-
I'M ALLOWED TO MOTIVATE.
BASED ON THE STATEMENTS THE
GENERAL MADE A FEW WEEKS AGO, I
JUST WANT TO KNOW-
I THINK OTHERS DO ALSO-
IN AFGHANISTAN, HOW WILL OUR
SOLDIERS DIFFERENTIATE BETWEEN
AFGHANS AND THE SCUMBAGS?

The woman says THANK YOU.

[Cheers and applause]

Hillier says THAT'S A
FAIR QUESTION.
THEY DO IT EVERYDAY BECAUSE
THEY'RE WORKING WITH THE AFGHAN
NATIONAL GOVERNMENT, THE AFGHAN
POLICE FORCE, THE AFGHAN
NATIONAL ARMY, TO ENSURE THAT
THOSE WHO WOULD PREVENT A DULY
ELECTED PRESIDENT D GOVERNMENT
FROM GOVERNING THEIR COUNTRY,
FROM SECURITY AND STABILITY
BEING IMPROVED ON A DAILY BASIS,
ARE CLEARLY IDENTIFIED BY THEIR
VIOLENT, MURDEROUS ACTIONS
AGAINST THOSE FOLKS.
WE WORK WITH THE AFGHAN
STRUCTURE, WE'RE WORKING WITH
THE ELECTED GOVERNMENT AND THEIR
SECURITY ORGANIZATIONS WHICH ARE
TRYING DESPERATELY TO PROVIDE
WHAT I SAW VISIBLY THOSE PEOPLE WANT.

The man in his twenties says CAN WE SAY THAT THIS
GOVERNMENT HAS POPULAR SUPPORT?
UH, WHEN HAMID KARZAI CAN'T EVEN
WALK-
WALK TO A SHOP TO BUY FRUIT
WITHOUT SOMEONE SHOOTING AT HIM.
I MEAN, HOW MANY AFGHANIS EVEN
VOTED IN THE LAST ELECTION?

Hillier says WELL,
ACTUALLY-

The man emphatically says CAN WE SAY THAT THIS
GOVERNMENT HAS ANY KIND OF
LEGITIMACY AMONG THE PEOPLE?

[Audience groans]

The woman on stage says SIR, I'M GONNA ASK YOU TO SIT
DOWN, PLEASE?
I THINK YOU'VE ASKED YOUR
QUESTION, I THINK IT'S BEEN ANSWERED?

Hillier says UH, LET ME
JUST CLARIFY.
THERE'S A POPULATION OF
SOMEWHERE AROUND 28 MILLION
PEOPLE IN AFGHANISTAN, PERHAPS A
LITTLE BIT MORE.
NOBODY'S DONE A CENSUS IN SOME
25 YEARS.
IN THE
FIRST ELECTION, 9 OCTOBER 2004,
10.6 MILLION PEOPLE REGISTERED
TO VOTE.
THAT ACTUALLY IS MORE THAN 80 percent
OF THE ADULT MALE POPULATION.
THE YOUTHFUL POPULATION IN
AFGHANISTAN 14 AND BELOW, IS
SIGNIFICANTLY ABOVE 50 percent.
THAT WAS AN
INCREDIBLE FIGURE.
AND WHEN I TALKED TO YOU ABOUT
PEOPLE WALKING 8 HOURS, STANDING
IN LINE AND GOING HOME 8 HOURS
RISKING FOLKS WHO ACTUALLY
WOULD KILL THEN TO PREVENT THEM
FROM DOING THAT, TO VOTE,
YOU'LL UNDERSTAND THE DESIRE.
ON THE ELECTION-
IN THE ELECTION ON SUNDAY, 12-
PLUS MILLION VOTERS CAME OUT TO VOTE.
AND THEY CAME OUT TO VOTE 'CAUSE
THEY WANT TO SELECT THEIR
GOVERNMENT.
THEY'RE PROUD OF THE PART THAT
WE ARE PLAYING IN HELPING THEM
BE ABLE TO DO THAT, AND THEY'RE
DELIGHTED TO HAVE US TRE
WORKING WITH THEM.
THANK YOU.

[Applause]

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