Transcript: Imprint season 12 episode 14 | Jan 03, 2001

Tina Srebotnjak stands in a studio with pieces of art in red and orange hanging in the background.
She’s in her late thirties, with short chestnut hair and bangs. She’s wearing a gray blouse.

Tina says HELLO, I'M TINA
SREBOTNJAK, GET READY FOR
SOME ROCK 'N' ROLL TONIGHT
ON “IMPRINT”

Fast black and white clips show The Beatles performing and fans crowding different venues and going crazy for the band, as a Beatles song plays
SHE LOVES YOU,
YAYA, YA
SHE LOVES YOU YAY, YAY, YAY.

Then, the cover of a book appears briefly. It reads “The Beatles in Rishikesh.”

Tina says EXPERIENCE THE
BEATLES IN RISHIKESH, A BOOK
ABOUT A DREAM COME TRUE FOR
TORONTO'S PAUL SALTZMAN.

Paul says I SAT DOWN AND THEY KEPT
THEIR CONVERSATION GOING AND
I JUST SAT FOR A MOMENT AND
IN THAT FIRST MOMENT OF
SITTING DOWN AS I LOOKED
AROUND THE TABLE I HEARD
THIS VOICE IN MY HEAD SCREAM,
IT IS THE Beatles!
JUST LIKE A FAN IN A CONCERT.

Now another book appears that reads “The piano shop on the left bank.”

Tina says AND THE PIANO SHOP
ON THE LEFT BANK, AMERICAN
WRITER CHAD CARHART
REDISCOVERS THE MUSIC OF HIS
YOUTH IN PARIS.

In an interview Chad says I CAN'T TELL YU.
I CAN'T POSSIBLY QUANTIFY IT
BUT I GOT ONE OF MY FRIENDS
CALLED THE WANTS.
I WANTED THIS PIANO.

Tina says SHORTLY FOLLOWED BY
THE HAVE'S, YOU GOT THE PIANO.

Chad says THAT'S RIGHT.

Theme music plays as the opening sequence rolls.
Fast clips show books and maps in hues of orange and red.

Tina reappears and says YOU MAY HAVE
NOTICED THE BEATLES ARE BACK,
WITH A NUMBER ONE ALBUM AND
A WEIGHTY ANTHOLOGY IN THE
STORES.
HERE IS A DIFFERENT TAKE ON
THE MOST FAMOUS ROCK BAND ON
IN HISTORY.
THE BEATLES IN RISHIKESH BY
PAUL SALTZMAN IS A BOOK AND
A PHOTO EXHIBIT.
HE MET AND MEDITATED WITH
THE FAN FOUR IN INDIA BACK
IN 1968.
HE CAME HOME WITH THREE
ROLLS OF THE BEATLES ON FILM
AND SOME INTIMATE MEMORIES
OF JOHN, PAUL, GEORGE AND
RINGO, AWAY FROM THE CROWDS
AT THE PEAK OF THEIR STARDOM.

A fragment of a Beatles music video plays, with the caption “Courtesy: EMI Music Canada.”

The band plays on a rooftop and sings
JOE-JOE WAS A MAN WHO
THOUGHT HE WAS A LONER
BUT HE KNEW IT WOULDN'T LAST
JOE-JOE LIVED HIS HOME IN
TUCSON, ARIZONA
FAR FROM CALIFORNIA
GET BACK
GET BACK
GET BACK TO WHERE YOU ONCE
BLOCKED.

Then, Paul is interviewed in a gallery.
A caption reads “Paul Saltzman. The Beatles in Rishikesh.”
Paul is in his forties, clean-shaven, with short brown hair.

He says AFTER THE PHOTOS WAS MY
DAUGHTER WALKED INTO MY
STUDY ONE DAY AND SAID
SHOULDN'T YOU TELL ME WHEN I
WAS LITTLE, THIS WAS LIKE
TEN YEARS AGO WHEN SHE WAS
MAYBE 8, DIDN'T YOU TELL ME
WHEN I WAS LITTLE THAT YOU
MET THE BEATLES IN INDIA,
AND I SAID YES.
DIDN'T YOU TELL ME YOU TOOK
THEIR PICTURES.
I SAID YES, AND SHE SAID CAN
I SEE THEM.
AND THAN I SEARCHED FOR THEM
FOR THREE WEEKS.
I COULDN'T FIND THEM AT ALL
AND THAN I SHOWED THEM TO
HER AND IT WAS REALLY JUST
HER SAYING WHAT WERE THEY
LIKE AND WHAT DID YOU DO.

Colour pictures of the Beatles playing flash by.

Paul continues AND AT THE END OF THAT HOUR,
HOUR AND A HALF SITTING
LOOKING AT THEM SHE SAID YOU
KNOW, THEY ARE GREAT, YOU
SHOULD DO SOMETHING WITH
THEM.
AND IT JUST PLANTED A SEED.
AND THAN I JUST CHECKED IN
AND THINK HOUT DO I FEEL NOW
ABOUT DOING SOMETHING WITH
THEM.
EACH TIME I ASKED MYSELF THE
ANSWER, SURE.
THE REASON THAT THEY ARE AS
AT EASE IN FRONT OF A CAMERA
AND AS INTIMATE REALLY AS --
THERE IS A COUPLE FACTORS.
ONE, THEY Mr. AWAY FROM ALL
THE STUFF THAT PULLS AT YOU
WHEN YOU ARE THAT HUGELY
FAMOUS WHERE YOU CAN BARELY
GO OUT OF YOUR HOUSE WITHOUT
THE PRESS OR PEOPLE
SCREAMING.
IT WAS 1968.
THEY WERE AT THE TOP OF
THEIR FAME.
THEY SEEM TO STILL BE THERE,
YOU KNOW.
BUT THEY WERE AT THE TOP OF
THEIR FAME.

Additional pictures show an ancient Indian building, followed by The Beatles meeting a yogi with long gray hair.

Paul continues AND THIS WAS LIKE AN OASIS
WHERE NOT ONLY BECAUSE OF
THE MEDITATION BUT BECAUSE
OF THE IDYLLIC SURROUNDINGS
AND THE FACT THAT THE ASHRAM
WAS CLOSED SO THEY
ESSENTIALLY WERE VERY AT
EASE.
AND THAN FOR WHATEVER REASON
THE JUST THE FACT THAT I WAS
AS WELL.
I ASKED THEM AT THE
BEGINNING DO YOU MIND IF I
TAKE THE ODD PICTURE.
I HAD LOTS OF FILM.
I ONLY TOOK THREE ROLLS OF
FILM.
AND SOMEBODY ASKED ME THE
OTHER DAY WHEN THEY CAME TO
THE EXHIBIT HERE THEY SAID
SO DID YOU HAVE YOUR PICTURE
TAKEN WITH THE BEATLES AND
IT WAS LIKE NEVER THOUGHT OF IT.

Another fragment of a Beatles music video plays.

The band sings
WHEN I WAS YOUNGER,
SO MUCH YOUNGER THAN
TODAY
I NEVER NEEDED ANYBODY'S
HELP IN ANY WAY.

Paul continues THE ONLY TIME I WAS
OVERWHELMED OR INTIMIDATED
WAS AFTER ABOUT THREE
SECONDS, WHEN I WENT IN THE
FIRST DAY TO LEARN
MEDITATION AND HI THAT
MEDITATION THAT WAS VERY
EXQUISITE.
LATER IN THE DAY I WAS
WALKING ALONG A PATH AND I
LOOKED OVER AND ABOUT 50
FEET AWAY AT THIS TABLE BY
THE EDGE OF THE CLIFF WHERE
PEOPLE HUNG OUT THERE WAS
JOHN, PAUL, GEORGE, RINGO,
THEIR PARTNERS, THEIR
ROADIE.
AND I WALKED OVER NERVOUSLY,
OF COURSE.
AND I SAID MAY I JOIN YOU.
AND THEY WERE VERY NEAT,
JOHN SAID SURE, PULL UP A
CHAIR, MATE.
PAUL SAID COME ON, SIT DOWN.
AND I SAT DOWN AND THEY KEPT
THEIR CONVERSATION GOING.
AND I JUST SAT FOR A MOMENT
AND IN THAT FIRST MOMENT OF
SITTING DOWN AS I LOOKED
AROUND THE TABLE I HEARD
THIS VOICE IN MY HEAD SCREAM
“IT'S THE BAT E8 -- BEATLES,
JUST LIKE A FAN IN A
CONCERT.
AND THAT RIGHT AWAY, THIS
OTHER VOICE VERY CALM AND
VERY GROUNDED SAID HEY, THEY
ARE JUST PEOPLE LIKE YOU.
EVERYONE IS SCARED IN THE
NIGHT.
EVERYONE HAS -- AND SO ALL
OF A SUDDEN IT JUST CAME
DOWN TO THAT.
AND THAN WE STARTED TALKING
AND THEY WERE VERY -- JOHN
TURNED TO ME AND SAID YOU
ARE FROM THE STATES THAN.
AND I SAID NO, CANADA.
AND HE SAID AH, FROM THE
COLONIES THEN.
AND WE LAUGHED AND EVERYONE
LAUGHED AND WE CHATTED A BIT
MORE.
AND RINGO SAID SOMETHING
ABOUT HAVING THE QUEEN ON
YOUR MONEY.
AND THEY WERE TEASING ME A
BIT.
AND I WAS LAUGHING.
AND JOHN TURNED TO THE
OTHERS AND SAID SEE, THEY
STILL HAVE A SENSE OF HUMOUR
IN THE COLONIES.

Another fragment of a music video plays, with the Beatles wearing colourful and shiny uniforms.

They sing
YOU SAY GOOD-BYE, AND I
SAY HELLO
HELLO, HELLO.

Paul continues BEFORE I HAD MET THEM THE
IMPACT THEY HAD WAS PRETTY
HUGE ON THEIR MUSIC WHICH IS
WHY I WAS A FAN.
I LOVED THEIR MUSIC.
THEY WERE MY FAVOURITE
GROUP.
AND REALLY THE IMPACT OF
THAT CAN BE ENCAPSULATED IN
THE JOYFULNESS OF THEIR
MUSIC.
I MEAN IN A CERTAIN SENSE,
YOU KNOW, NO ONE REALLY
NECESSARILY HAD TALKED TO ME
MUCH ABOUT LOVE.
SO THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT
LOVE.
LOVE IS ALL YOU NEED, WHICH
IS MOSTLY TRUE.
SO BEFORE I EVEN MET THEM,
WHAT I -- THE IMPACT WAS
HUGE AND THERE IS AN INNER
LIFE HERE THAT I HADN'T BEEN
PAYING ATTENTION TO THAT
THEY ARE SAYING IS IMPORTANT
AND THEY ARE SAYING IS THERE.

Another music video fragment plays.

The band sings
LOVE IS ALL YOU NEED.

Paul continues THERE WAS A TIME WHEN
GEORGE AND I WERE SITTING
OUTSIDE AND WE FINISHED --
WE WERE TALKING AND
BASICALLY THERE WAS A TABLE
OUT BY THE EDGE OF THE CLIFF
WHERE WE ALL KIND OF HUNG
OUT WHEN NO ONE WAS DOING
ANYTHING ELSE, PARTICULAR,
HAD TEA.
AND EVERYONE GOT UP AND LEFT
WITH THE OTHER BEATLES AND
THEIR LIVES GOT UP AND LEFT.
AND GEORGE AND I WERE
SITTING ALONE.
I SAID I LOVE THE WAY YOU
BROUGHT INDIAN SITAR MUSIC
INTO YOUR MUSIC.
HE SAID I WAS JUST GOING TO
GO PRACTICE, DO YOU WANT TO COME.

A picture pops up showing a young Paul sitting with the Beatles in a location in India.

Paul continues SO I SAID SURE.
SO WE WENT TO HIS MEDITATION
ROOM WHICH WAS TINY, YOU
KNOW, LIKE THIS BIG.
AND WE JUST THE TWO OF US
AND HE STARTED PLAYING THE
SITAR AND I JUST CLOSED MY
EYES AND DRIFTED AWAY, IT
WAS BEAUTIFUL.
AFTERWARDS WE HAD A VERY
LOVELY CHAT.
AND ONE OF THE THINGS I SAID,
I ASKED HIM HOW MEDITATION
WAS AND HE BASICALLY
ANTICIPATED LIKE THIS HE
SAID IN THIS WONDERFUL
SENTENCE, HE SAID WELL, LIKE
WE ARE THE BEATLES AFTER ALL,
AREN'T WE.
WE HAVE ALL THE MONEY, ALL
THE FAME YOU COULD EVER
DREAM OF.
BUT IT ISN'T LOVE, IT ISN'T
PEACE, IT ISN'T BEING AT
EASE WITHIN YOURSELF.
AND I UNDERSTOOD WITHIN THAT
MOMENT THAT WE WERE THERE
FOR THE SAME REASON.
I WAS A BROKE HIPPIE, HE WAS
THIS WONDERFUL HUGE STAR.
BUT ESSENTIALLY THE PEACE
THAT WAS MISSING INSIDE WERE
THE INNER JOURNEY LEADS YOU
TO AN INNER RICHNESS.
SO I WANTED TO WRITE ABOUT THAT.

Now a fragment of a live concert plays.

The band sings
HEY JUDE
DON'T BE AFRAID
YOU WERE MADE TO GO OUT
AND GET HER.

Paul continues THE REACTION HAS BEEN
REALLY WONDERFUL.
PEOPLE COME INTO THE
GALLERY.
AND I JUST WATCH PEOPLE AND
THEY SMILE, ALL THE WAY
AROUND THE ROOM.
AND THAN THEY WANT TO TALK
ABOUT HOW THE BEATLES, WHAT
THEY MEANT IN THEIR LIVES.
AND BASICALLY PEOPLE JUST
ARE FILLED WITH WHAT SEEMS
TO BE A JOYFULNESS AT WHERE
THE BEATLES FIT INTO THEIR
OWN LIVES.
AND SOME OF THEM ARE 60
YEARS OLD AND SOME OF THEM
ARE LIKE 15.
SO WHEN PEOPLE COME TO THE
GALLERY, IT IS REALLY
WONDERFUL BECAUSE -- AND I
HAVE HAD LOTS OF PEOPLE SAY
TO ME, I DON'T THINK I HAVE
EVER SEEN THEM LIKE THIS.
AND PEOPLE HAVE COME OVER
AND SAID I FEEL LIKE I'M
ACTUALLY WITH THEM.
IT FEELS THREE DIMENSIONAL.
SO THAT GIVES ME A LOT OF PLEASURE.

In another music video fragment, set in a park, the band sings
WHEN YOU READ MY MOVIE, IT
TOOK ME YEARS TO WRITE WILL
YOU TAKE A LOOK
BASED ON A NOVEL AND I
NEED A JOB
SO I WANT TO BE A
PAPERBACK WRITER
PAPERBACK WRITER.

Paul continues I HAVE A FAVOURITE PHOTO
ALTHOUGH I HAVE ABOUT FIVE
OR SIX OF THEM.
BUT MY FAVOURITE INDIVIDUAL
ONE IF I HAD TO SAY IS THE
ONE OF JOHN OVER HERE.

He walks over to a coloured portrait picture of John Lennon holding a guitar. In the picture John has shoulder-length hair and a full beard.

Paul continues AND MOSTLY BECAUSE I THINK
HE WAS THE MOST PROFOUND
WHICH ISN'T TO SAY THE
OTHERS WEREN'T PROFOUND.
BUT IF I HAD TO SAY WHICH
PERSON I FELT THE MOST WITH
IT WOULD HAVE BEEN JOHN.
AND THE FACT THAT THE
PICTURE IS SO NAKEDLY
PRESENT, IT IS LIKE THERE
IS -- YOU ALMOST FEEL LIKE
HE IS RIGHT HERE.
SO THIS IS MY FAVOURITE.

Fast clips of Beatles music videos and live performances flash by as a song plays
LET IT BE
LET IT BE
YEAH, LET IT BE
WHISPER WORDS OF WISDOM
LET IT BE.

Paul continues IT'S FUNNY BECAUSE YOU
KNOW, THEY ARE HUGE ICONS

He walks up to a picture of a young, relaxed Paul McCartney and says
AND I MEAN, JUST LOOK AT THE
LOOK IN HIS FACE WHICH IS
HE'S A LITTLE SHY, HE'S A
LITTLE UNCOMFORTABLE, BUT
HE'S KIND OF VERY OPEN AND
VULNERABLE.
SO IN A WAY FOR ME HAVING
MET THEM, THEY ARE JUST --
THEY JUST BECAME REALLY
DELIGHTFUL HUMAN BEINGS.
SO FOR ME I THINK OF THEM AS
JUST BEING THESE FOUR GUYS
WHO OF COURSE WERE
EXTRAORDINARY, BUT THEY WERE
VERY ORDINARY, VERY DOWN TO
EARTH, VERY ACCESSIBLE, VERY REAL.

Back in the studio, Tina says THE BEATLES IN
RISHIKESH BY PAUL SALTZMAN
IS PUBLISHED BY VIKING STUDIO.

Now an animated book resting on a bar countertop reveals the cover of a book titled “The piano shop on the left bank,” followed by a clip of a bookstore.

Tina says COMING UP NEXT, “THE PIANO
SHOP ON THE LEFT BANK” A
LOVING TRIBUTE TO PIANOS AND
TO PARIS.
AND LATER RECOMMENDED
READING FOR MUSIC LOVERS.
WHEN CHAD CARHART TURNED 50
HE DECIDED TO MAKE A CAREER
CHANGE FROM TOP EXECUTIVE AT
APPLE COMPUTERS TO FULL-TIME
WRITER.
THE NEXT CHALLENGE WAS TO
FIND A SUBJECT FOR HIS FIRST BOOK.
AND HE DISCOVERED IT IN THE
PARIS NEIGHBORHOOD WHERE HE LIVES.
THE PIANO SHOP ON THE LEFT
BANK IS ABOUT THE
CHARMING -- THAT REKINDLED
THE AUTHOR'S LOVE OF MUSIC
AND INTRODUCED HIM TO A
WHOLE NEW SIDE OF FRENCH LIFE.

A clip plays of Tina interviewing Chad.

Tina says CHAD CARHART, WELCOME TO “IMPRINT.”

Chad says THANK YOU.

Tina says I LOVED YOUR BOOK
BUT I WANT TO KNOW WHY YOU
WANTED TO WRITE A BOOK ABOUT
A PIANO SHOP ON THE LEFT BANK.

A caption appears on screen. It reads "T.E. Carhart. The Piano Shop on the Left Bank."

Chad says I WANTED TO WRITE A BOOK
ABOUT THE EXPERIENCE OF
BUYING MY PIANO.
AND IT LED ME TO THE PIANO
SHOP.
AND REALLY ONE WENT WITH THE
OTHER.
AND I DIDN'T PLAN IT THAT
WAY.
IT IS JUST THAT HAVING THAT
EXPERIENCE OF BUYING A USED
PIANO AND FINDING OUT WHERE
I COULD FIND A USED PIANO IN
PARIS LED ME TO THIS
STOREFRONT.

Tina says WELL, IT IS VERY
SEDUCTIVE AND THE STORY IS
TOLD VERY SEDUCTIVELY
ESPECIALLY BECAUSE AT FIRST
YOU WERE BUFFED.
YOU CAN'T JUST WALK IN AND
SAY -- THE FIRST TIME YOU
WALK INTO THEY TELL YOU THEY
DON'T HAVE PIANOS, RIGHT.

Chad says THAT'S RIGHT.
I WAS TOLD THAT WELL, YOU
SEEM TO HAVE SOME
MISUNDERSTANDING HERE,
MONSIEUR, THERE ARE NO
PIANOS HERE, THERE ARE PIANO
PARTS.
AND I PERSISTED AND SHALL IN
THE NORTH AMERICAN WAY.
BUT I UNDERSTOOD THERE WERE
PIANOS.
NO, YOU SEEM NOT TO HAVE UNDERSTOOD.
BUT VERY NICE, BUT ALSO VERY
CLEAR THAT THIS WAS NOT
GOING TO HAPPEN.
SO I LEFT WITHOUT A PIANO OR
WITHOUT ANY INFORMATION
ABOUT A PIANO.
AND IT WAS ONLY THROUGH THE
HAPPENSTANCE OF MEETING
SOMEONE WHO HAD BOUGHT A
PIANO THERE WITH AN
INTRODUCTION THAT I WAS ABLE
TO GET INTO WHAT IS CALLED
THE BACK OF THE STORE.

Tina says SO WHEN YOU GOT
INTO THE BACK ROOM WHAT DID
YOU FIND.

Chad says WELL, TO MY MIND I FOUND
ALADDIN'S CAVE.
IT WAS JUST EXTRAORDINARY.
I FOUND 40 OR 50 PIANOS OF
ALL SORTS.
I DESCRIBE IN THE BOOK JUST
WHAT IT LOOKED LIKE AND WHAT
IT FELT LIKE.
AND REALLY WHAT IT FELT LIKE
WAS THE MOST AMAZING
TREASURE TROV THAT ONE COULD
COME ACROSS.
IT WAS YOU BE EXPECTED AND
YET EVEN WHEN I GOT BEYOND
THE FACT THAT OH, OKAY THEY
DO SELL PIANOS AND THERE ARE
PIANOS HERE, I JUST GOT TO
WANDER.
IT WAS LIKE BEING A KID IN A
CANDY SHOP IT WAS WONDERFUL.

Tina says NOW TELL ME ABOUT
THE OWNER.
THIS IS A CHAP NAMED LUKE.
WONDERFUL CHARACTER,
ENIGMATIC IN A WAY.
TELL ME ABOUT YOUR
RELATIONSHIP WITH HIM.

Chad says HE WAS THE FELLOW WHO LET
ME IN AT THE BEGINNING AND
WHAT WE HAD FROM THE
BEGINNING WAS A COMMERCIAL
RELATIONSHIP.
I WAS INTERESTED IN THE
PIANO.
HE WAS INTERESTED IN SELLING
ME ONE.
SO GRADUALLY OVER A PERIODS
OF MONTHS AND SEVERAL VISITS
IT BECAME WHAT I MUCH LATER
REALIZED WAS A FRIENDSHIP.
BUT THAT FLOURISHED REALLY
ONLY IN THE CONTEXT OF OUR
GETTING TO KNOW EACH OTHER
AND IN A SENSE RUBBING
ELBOWS WITH EACH OTHER.

Tina says NOW LET'S GET TO
YOUR LOVE OF PIANOS.
FIRST OF ALL TELL ME ABOUT
FINDING, WAS IT A SINGLE.

Chad says THAT'S RIGHT.

Tina says TELL ME ABOUT
FINDING IT BECAUSE LUKE SORT
OF SAID HEY, IT IS HERE.

Chad says IT'S HERE.
A PIANO I THINK WOULD BE
RIGHT FOR YOU HAS ARRIVED.
SO I FOLLOWED HIM TO THE BACK.
AND IT WAS A BABY GRAND.
I THOUGHT NO WAY, I KNOW IT
IS NOT RIGHT.
AND AS I DESCRIBE IN THE
TEXT, IT WAS A PROCESS OF
DISCOVERING IT.
HE SAID OKAY, FINE.
COME TO BACK IN THE NEXT
COUPLE DAYS.
I WILL SET IT UP, IT WILL BE
TUNED AND WE WILL SEE WHAT
IT WAS.
AND I HAVE TO SAY THAT WAS
CALLED A THUNDERBOLT.
I KNEW IT WAS RIGHT FOR ME.
AND I CAN'T TELL YOU WHY.
I CAN'T POSSIBLY QUANTIFY
IT.
BUT I GOT ONE OF MY FRIENDS
CALL THE WANTS.
I WANTED THIS PIANO.

Tina says SHORTLY FOLLOWED BY
THE Haves.

Chad says THAT'S RIGHT.

Tina says YOU GOT THE PIANO.

Chad says THAT'S RIGHT.

Tina says THERE IS A GREAT
STORY THAT YOU TELL IN THE
BOOK ABOUT THE PIANO
DELIVERY, ABOUT THE GUY
LITERALLY STRAPPING THE
PIANO ON HIS BACK AND
CARRYING IT UP THE STAIRS.
WHO KNEW.

Chad says I CERTAINLY DID.
WE LIVE ON THE FIRST FLOOR,
NOT THE GROUND FLOOR.
AND OUR APARTMENT AND IT IS
A STRAIGHT SHOT UP ONE
FLIGHT OF STAIRS BUT IT IS
STILL A LONG FLIGHT OF
STAIRS.
AND THIS FELLOW ARRIVED AND
CARRIED A BABY GRAND PIANO
ON HIS BACK UP THE STAIRS.
WHEN I HAVE SUBSEQUENTLY
ASKED PEOPLE AND DESCRIBE IS
IT POSSIBLE FOR A HUMAN
BEING TO CARRY UNDISTRIBUTED,
UNDIFFERENTIATED A SIM ET
RAL WEIGHT OF 300 KILOGRAMS
UP THE STAIRS, NO WAY, NOT
POSSIBLE, CAN'T BE DONE.
THIS PAN DOES THIS EVERY DAY
OF THE WEEK E APPARENTLY AND
HE DID IT IN THIS INSTANCE.
THE ONLY THING MISSING WAS
THE LEGS AND THEY DON'T
WEIGHT 200 KILOS.

Tina says AND IT WAS A SKINNY GUY
FOLLOWING UP WITH THE LEGS.

Chad says THAT'S RIGHT.

Tina says THAT IS WONDERFUL.
NOW YOUR OWN LOVE OF MUSIC I
WANT TO GET AT BECAUSE YOU
PLAYED PIANO WHEN YOU WERE A
KID.
AND THAN YOU GAVE IT UP LIKE
A LOT OF PEOPLE DO.
BUT OBVIOUSLY SOMETHING
STAYED IN YOUR HEART, WHAT?

Chad says WELL, IT IS THE
INSTRUMENT, OF COURSE, THE
MUSICAL INSTRUMENT BUT ALSO
THIS OBJECT.
IT IS A PIECE OF FURNITURE
BUT IT IS THIS GREAT BIG
THING THAT IS ALSO A MUSICAL
INSTRUMENT.
THERE IS NOTHING LIKE IT.
EVEN A DOUBLE BASE AS BIG AS
IT IS PUT AWAY IN ITS CASE
IN A CLOSET WHERE THE PIANO
IS SOMETHING YOU LIVE WITH.
IT IS REALLY A SORT OF
PRESENCE.

Tina says YOU WERE
ESSENTIALLY DRIVEN AWAY FROM
MUSIC I GUESS BY YOUR
EXPERIENCE AS A YOUNG PERSON,
PARTICULARLY THOSE RECITALS.
YOU JUST HATED THEM.

Chad says I REALLY DID NOT -- I
DON'T THINK THAT IS UNUSUAL.

Tina says I THINK A LOT OF
KIDS DO.
I THINK THAT SPOILS PIANO
FOR A LOT OF KIDS.

Chad says I THINK IT DOES,
UNFORTUNATELY.
I'M NOT PREPARED TO SAY THAT
IT IS ANYBODY'S FAULT.
I THINK THERE IS CERTAINLY A
BASIS FOR TALKING ABOUT WHY
KIDS ARE SUBJECTED TO THESE
THINGS AND DO THEY DO IT
JUST TO PLEASE THEIR PARENTS
OR ARE THEY MADE TO DO IT
BECAUSE THAT IS THE ONLY WAY.
BUT I THINK THE UNFORTUNATE
CONSEQUENCE IS THAT
OFTENTIMES THE ASSOCIATION
RATHER THAN ONE OF PLEASURE
OR SATISFACTION IS ONE OF
ACCOMPLISHMENT OR OF
LITERALLY IN THE NARROW
SENSE OF THE TERM
PERFORMANCE.
AND PERFORMING FOR OTHERS.
NOT IN ITSELF A BAD THING.
SOME PEOPLE ARE GIFTED IN
THAT WAY.
BUT LET'S FACE IT, THEY ARE
FEW AND FAR BETWEEN.
THE PLEASURE I THINK IS WHEN
MUSIC COMES BACK TO YOU IN
SOME WAY, IN SOME WAY OR
WAYS THAT ENRICH YOU, THAT
WASN'T HAPPENING FOR ME.
AND IT TOOK ME A LONG TIME
TO BASICALLY STAND UP AND
SAY NO.

Now Chad reads from his book and says
NOW WE WILL HAVE AN EARLY
BEETHOVEN PIECE FROM CHAD
CARHART I HEARD HER SAY.
AND ONLY DIMLY I DID CONNECT
THAT NAME WITH MY OWN.
MY LEGS CARRIED ME
UNCERTAINLY UP THE NARROW
AISLE THAT THREADED THROUGH
THE PARENTS AND SIBLINGS OF
MY FELLOW STUDENTS AND I SAT
DOWN ON THE PIANO BENCH.
A STRANGE GIDDINESS
POSSESSED ME AS IF I MIGHT
START POUNDING THE KEYBOARD
AT RANDOM AND EXPECTED TO
PASS FOR A DIFFICULT PIECE.
AND YET MY OWN PIECE, THE
REAL ONE WAS A VARIANT ME AS
THE DARK SIDE OF THE MOON.
HOW DOES IT GO, I ASKED
MYSELF.
HOW AT LEAST DOES IT BEGIN.

Tina says WELL, YOU TELL A
GREAT STORY IN THE BOOK
WHICH IS OBVIOUSLY SO
IMPRINTED ON YOUR MIND, EVEN
WHEN THEY ANNOUNCE AND NOW
CHAD CARHART WILL PLAY, I
CAN STILL FEEL IT.

Chad says SO CAN I.

Tina says ARE YOU SCREAMING
NO, NO, HE WON'T.

Chad says NOT ME, PLEASE.
I NEVER HAD ANY -- IT IS NOT
EVEN OF COURSE YOU KNOW ARE
YOU NOT EVEN AS A CHILD BUT
I DIDN'T WANT TO BE.
AND I THINK THAT IS AN
IMPORTANT DISTINCTION TOO.
THERE IS THIS NOTION THAT
YOU SHOULD WANT TO BE IF YOU
HAVE ANY SORT OF TALENT, ONE
OF THE MOST TROUBLESOME
THINGS I WAS TOLD AS A CHILD
WAS YOU HAVE PROMISE.
AND I LITERALLY HEARD IT AS
I HAVE PROMISED SOMETHING.
THE WORD I THINK IS VERY
TELLING.
I SAID NOW WHAT IS THIS
PROMISE THING, I DIDN'T MAKE
ANY PROMISE.
I DON'T REALLY WANT TO PLAY
PIANO FOR THESE REASONS.
IT WASN'T UNTIL MUCH LATER
AS AN ADULT THAT I REALIZED
THAT EQUATION COULD CHANGE
AND I COULD CHANGE IT.
THAT I WOULD HAVE TO ACCEPT
THE TERMS.

Tina says BUT YOU DON'T LIKE
PLAYING PIANO EVEN NOW FOR
ANYBODY ELSE.

Chad says YOU CAN ME TO.

Tina says THERE IS ONE RIGHT
OVER THERE.

Chad says NO, SORRY.

Tina says YOU DON'T LIKE, IT
IS JUST FOR YOU.

Chad says WELL, YEAH, THAT'S RIGHT.
I MEAN CATEGORICALLY I
WOULDN'T SAY I HAVE NEVER
PLAYED FOR ANYBODY WITHOUT
IT BEING A DREADFUL
EXPERIENCE.
BUT WITH THE EXCEPTION OF MY
FAMILY AND A COUPLE OF
FRIENDS, NO IT IS NOT
SOMETHING --

Tina says DID YOUR FAMILY EMBRACE
THIS AS WELL.
YOUR KIDS GOT INTERESTED IN
THE PIANO.

Chad says YES, INDEED.

Tina says AND ARE THEY
STUDYING IT NOW.

Chad says MY DAUGHTER PLAYED PIANO
AND MY SON TOOK UP RECORDER.
BUT ACTUALLY JUST RECENTLY
MY DAUGHTER HAS DECIDED THAT
SHE WANTS TO LEAVE THE PIANO
AND CONTINUE WITH VOICE.
SHE IS IN A CHOIR.
AND AT FIRST TO BE HONEST I
RESISTED THAT.
BECAUSE I THOUGHT EASY JEEZ,
THE PIANO, I DID THIS FOR
YOU.

Tina says WHAT IS WRONG WITH IT.

Chad says IT WAS THE CLASSIC SORT
OF PARENTAL BLIND SPOT OF
PROJECTING YOUR ASSOCIATIONS
AND NEEDS ON TO YOUR
CHILDREN.
FORTUNATELY IT DIDN'T LAST
VERY LONG.
I TALKED TO HER TEACHER WHO
SAID LOOK, YOUR DAUGHTER IS
VERY GIFTED WITH HER VOICE.
SHE IS GOOD AT THE KEYBOARD
BUT SHE IS CHOOSING.
LISTEN WHAT SHE IS SAYING.
HER VOICE IS HER INSTRUMENT.
IT IS ALMOST --
CONTRADICTORY WITH THE
PRECISION AND SOME WOULD SAY
THE TURN KNEE OF THE
KEYBOARD.
YOU HAVE 88 KEYS, 88 TONES,
YOU CAN'T MODULATE THEM AT
ALL.
THE VOICE IS ALMOST THE
EXACT OPPOSITE OF THAT.
SO I THOUGHT THAT WAS
VERY -- I TALK ABOUT THIS IN
THE CHAPTER WHERE I TALK
WITH THE ACCOMPANIST.
AND HE ACCOMPANIES SINGERS.
AND HE SAID THERE IS THIS
DISCONNECT BETWEEN THE PIANO
WHICH IS ESSENTIALLY A
PERCUSSION INSTRUMENT, ARE
YOU STRIKING STRINGS AND
GETTING ONE FREQUENCY PER
KEY, AND THE VOICE WHICH IS
EVERYTHING BUT THAT.
AND SO I THOUGHT WELL, YEAH,
I DID WRITE THAT CHAPTER.
MAYBE I SHOULD PAY ATTENTION
TO THAT AND LET MY DAUGHTER
MAKE A CHOICE THAT MAKES
SENSE FOR HER.

Tina says TIME TO REREAD IT.

Chad says RIGHT.

Tina says ARE YOU STILL IN
LOVE WITH YOUR PIANO.

Chad says I AM.

Tina says SO YOU ARE A HAPPY
AMERICAN PARENT.

Chad says I'M A VERY HAPPY AMERICAN PARENT.
I'M NOT GOING TO GO OUT AND
BUY A STEINWAY.
I'M STICKING WITH THIS PIANO.

Tina says I'M VERY HAPPY YOU
WROTE THIS BOOK.
IT WAS A GREAT READ.

Chad says THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR
SAYING SO I'M GLAD YOU LIKE IT.

Back in the studio, Tina says THE PIANO SHOP ON
THE LEFT BANK BY TE CARHART
IT IS PUBLISHED BY
McCARTER AND COMPANY.
WELL, WHETHER YOU
ARE A BEETHOVEN FAN OR YOUR
TASTES RUN MORE TO GUITAR
PLAYING FOR DUMBIES THERE IS
A SYMPHONY OF BOOKS AND HERE
TO SHARE SOME OF THEIR
FAVOURITE TITLES ARE MOVIE
AND FORMER MUSIC CRITIC
PETER HOWELL AND RADIO
BROADCASTER ROBERT HARRIS.
HELLO, YOU TOO, YOU WILL
START WITH SOMETHING THAT
LOOKS DELICIOUS.
WHAT IS THIS.

Peter and Robert sit in the studio with Tina. Peter is in his early thirties, clean-shaven, with wavy brown hair. Robert is in his fifties, with curly gray hair and a full beard.

Peter displays a book titled “100 best album covers.”

He says A LOST ART ALBUM COVERS,
THE CDs AND MP 3 WHICH HAVE
NO COVERS AT ALL IT IS NICE
TO GO BACK TO REMEMBER WHAT
IT WAS TO BUY AN ALBUM,
BEFORE YOU LISTEN TO IT YOU
APPRECIATED WHAT WAS ON THE
COVER.
SO THIS BOOK IS SOME OF THE
BEST, NOT ALL OF THE ONES, I
WOULDN'T AGREE WITH ALL THE
PICKS BUT MOST WOULD AGREE
WITH THE PINK FLOYD ONE AND
I THINK ANYBODY FROM THE
'90s OF WHOED THE '90s WOULD
AGREE WITH THE NIRVANA
COVER.

Iconic album covers flash by: from Pink Floyd’s “The dark side of the moon” the prism converting a ray of light into a rainbow; from Nirvana’s “Nevermind” the baby swimming under water chasing a dollar bill tied to a fishing line;

Tina says YOU SAY THAT DEFINES A DECADE.

Peter says I THINK THIS IS THE
DEFINING IMAGE, WELL, IT IS
ABOUT A BABY BEING ATTRACTED
BY THE LURE OF CAPITALISM.

Tina says AND OF COURSE MANY
GENERATIONS THIS WOULD BE
COMPLETE NEWS TOO, ALBUM
COVERS.

Peter says SO A CHANCE TO LEARN.

Tina says PERFECT.
ROBERT, WHAT HAVE YOU GOT.

A caption appears on screen. It reads "Robert Harris. Radio Broadcaster."

Robert says WE WILL START WITH
BEETHOVEN'S HAIR.
IT SAYS HERE IT IS AN
EXTRAORDINARY HISTORICAL
ODYSSEY AND A SCIENTIFIC
MISS STREECHL THE SCIENTIFIC
MYSTERY IS HOW DE DIE, WHAT
KILLED HIM.
AND THE ANSWER IS LEAD
POISONING.
HERE IS A LOCK OF HAIRCUT
FROM BEETHOVEN'S HEAD THE
DAY AFTER HE DIED, DOZENS,
HE WAS ALMOST BALD WHEN HE
WAS BURIES BY A MUSICIAN WHO
WAS 15.
AND NOW THAT LOCK OF HAIR IS
IN I THINK THE UNIVERSITY OF
SAN DIEGO IN A SEALED
CAPSULE.
AND HOW IT GOT FROM ONE
PLACE TO THE OTHER IS WHAT
THIS BOOK IS ABOUT.
IT IS BY RUSSELL MARTIN WHO
IS A JOURNALIST, IT IS MUSIC
HISTORY AND FORENSIC
DISCOVERY.
SO THEY DID ANALYSIS ON THE
HAIR.
THEY FOUND HIGH
CONCENTRATIONS OF LEAD.
SO THEY THINK THAT LEAD
POISONING MAY HAVE KILLED
BEETHOVEN AND MADE HIM DEAF.
HE WAS SO SICK, HE WAS THE
SICKEST PERSON DURING THAT
DAY, 24 PAGES IN THIS
BIOGRAPHY DESCRIBE ALL THE
THINGS HE WAS SICK WITH,
DEAFNESS, BOWEL PROBLEMS, HE
HAD EVERYTHING.

Tina says POOR GUY.
NOW WHY DID THEY CUT HIS
HAIR TO BEGIN WITH.

Peter says IT WAS COMMON AT THE END
OF THE 18th AND 19th CENTURY
TO DO THIS.
IT WAS PUT INTO A LITTLE
LOCKET.
AND IT WAS PASSED TO HIS SON
AND THAN IT IS LOST.
IT IS REALLY A GREAT READ.

Tina says IT SOUNDS LIKE A
REAL WHO DONE IT.

Robert says YOU DON'T HAVE TO KNOW
ANYTHING ABOUT MUSIC.

Peter says SURE HE DIDN'T DIE OF EXPOSURE.

Tina says OKAY, PETER WHAT
YOU HAVE GOT.

A caption appears on screen. It reads "Peter Howell. Movie Critic."

Peter says THIS NEXT ONE, ANYBODY
WHO CONSIDERS THEMSELVES A
SWINGING HIPSTER WHO DOESN'T
HAVE A HOPI OF MILES DAVIS
KIND OF BLUE, IT IS THE
ULTIMATE JAZZ RECORD FOR
ANYBODY WHETHER YOU ARE A
JAZZ FAN OR NOT, JAZZ
PURISTS MAY ARGUE BUT THIS
IS THE ONE EVEN IF YOU ARE
NOT A JAZZ FAN YOU SHOULD
HAVE IT IT IS CALL THE KING
OF HIP MUSIC.
AND THIS IS A KIND OF
TRIBUTE TO THE MAKING OF IT.
A 40 YEAR ANNIVERSARY WAS
LAST YEAR BUT TWO BOOKS HAVE
COME OUT, THIS IS THE BETTER
ONE I THINK AND IT HAS A LOT
OF REALLY INTERESTING
DEDALES INCLUDING SOMETHING
I NEVER KNEW WAS THAT THE
FIRST THREE TRACKS WEREN'T
MASTERED PROPERLY AND FOR 35
YEARS THERE WAS A HIGHER
PITCH THAN IT SHOULD HAVE
BEEN AND ONLY IN RECENT
YEARS HAVE THEY CORRECTED
THAT.
BUT EVEN MILES DAVIS DIDN'T
NOTICE IT.

Tina says THIS IS NOT ABOUT
MILES DAVIS SO MUCH AS IT IS
ABOUT THE PUTTING OUT OF --

Peter says THE NICE THING IT IS
ABOUT MILES DAVE AND JOHN
COLE TRAIN, BUT IT IS ABOUT
AN ALBUM THAT IS JUST THE
ULTIMATE MAKEOUT ALBUM.
IT IS THAT REALLY SMOOTH
JAZZ THAT EVERYBODY LIKES
AND THIS IS HOW IT WAS MADE.

Tina says ULTIMATE MAKEOUT ALBUM.

Robert says I ANOTHER AMERICAN MUSS
SIGNIFICANCE, AARON COPLAND,
ANYBODY THAT HAS MADE OUT TO
HIS MUSIC, WANT TO MEET
THEM.
A FANFARE FOR THE COMMON MAN,
AN APPALACHIAN SPRING.
HE WAS BORN A HUNDRED
YEARS AGO 1900 AND DIED TEN
YEARS AGO, ALMOST HAD00.
AND -- IT WAS INTERESTED IN
JAZZ AS WELL, HE KNEW
MILES'S WORK AND KNEW MILES
WELL BUT HE IS THE AMERICAN
MUSICIAN BECAUSE OF THOSE
BALLET STORIES WE HAVE
PROBABLY HEARD THEM WITHOUT
KNOWING IT.
BILLY THE KID, Appalachian
SPRING.
HE MADE IT POSSIBLE TO BE A
COMPOSER IN THE UNITED
STATES BECAUSE WHEN HE WAS
BORN THERE WAS SO MUCH THING,
REALLY, COMPOSERS WERE
EUROPEAN.
AND COPELAND THROUGH HIS
WORK IN HIS OWN MUSIC AND HE
WAS AN EXTRAORDINARY
ORGANIZER AND A REALLY
INTERESTING GUY.
HE WAS GAY, NEVER CAME OUT.
AND KNEW EVERYBODY IN THE
WHOLE WORLD.
THERE ISN'T A SINGLE PERSON
THAT AARON COPELAND DIDN'T
KNOW AS FAR AS I CAN TELL
FROM READING THIS BIOGRAPHY.
GROUCHO MARX, WILDER, BOLD,
JUDEY HOLIDAY.
THERE WAS A STORY OF A GAME
OF CHARADES IN HERE WHICH IS
VERY DIFFICULT TO EXPLAIN
FOR YOUR ODD -- AUDIENCE BUT
THE CLUE WAS THE ART OF THE
FUGUE WHICH IS A BACH LAST
WORK.
SO COPELAND AND LEONARD
BERNSTEIN AND JUDEY HOLIDAY ARE GETTING TO GUESS
THIS, IT IS IN GERMAN AND
THE I WILL LET YOU GUESS HOW
JUDEY HOLIDAY GOT THEM TO GUESS.
I WON'T GO INTO IT BUT IT
IS WORTH READING FOR THAT.

Tina says WONDERFUL, PETER.

Peter says MY LAST BOOK HERE IS A
NEW THING IT IS CALLED BEST
MUSIC -- IT IS THE BEGINNING
OF WHAT THEY HOPE WILL BE AN
ANNUAL SERIES, AND IT IS
EDITED -- THE THINK THE BEST
ROCK WRITING IS A
COMBINATION OF FIELD REPORTS
THROUGH SURREALISTIC POETRY
AND DIARY ENT REARS.
THIS HAS A BIT OF ALL OF IT
IN IT.
VERY NICE PIECE BY LESTER
BANGS, THE LATE LESTER BANGS
WHO WAS REMEMBERED IN THE
CURRENT MOVIE ALMOST FAMOUS.
A BOOK IN WHICH HE TALKS
ABOUT A GERMAN POP BAND IN
THE '30s CALLED THE COULD
MEDIAN HARMONISTS.
AN APPRECIATION OF MADONNA
AND ROSEANNE CASH, ONE OF MY
FAVOURITE COUNTRY SINGERS,
ALL ABOUT THE IMPORTANCE OF
COUNTRY MUSIC AND FAMILY.
IT IS A NICE ELECTION OF
ESSAYS AND I HOPE THIS TAKES
OFF BECAUSE IT IS A GOOD NEW
SERIES TO BEGIN.

Tina says Robert, WE ONLY
VERY A FEW SECONDS LEFT.

Robert says AARON COPELAND WHAT TO
LISTEN FOR IN MUSIC, YOU CAN
SEE IT OLD, PUBLISHED IN
1939, NEVER BEEN OUT OF
PRINT OF THE BIBLE WILL GO
OUT OF PRINT BEFORE WHAT TO
LISTEN FOR IN MUSIC, A
PHENOMENON IN THE PUBLISHING
BUSINESS AND THE BEST BOOK
STILL TO READ IF YOU WANT TO
KNOW WHAT MUSIC IS WRITTEN
FOR THE LAYMAN AND A
WONDERFUL LITTLE BOOK, SO
WHAT TO LISTEN FOR IN MUSIC
IS ALWAYS GOOD
RECOMMENDATION.

Tina says I LOVED YOUR COPY
COST 95 CENTS.

Robert says AND IT IS ONE-POINT TYPE.

Tina says THANK YOU VERY MUCH,
THANKS GUYS.
AND THAT IS IT FOR THIS
EDITION OF “IMPRINT.”
NEXT WEEK MEET CANADA'S DEAN
OF TRUE CRIME, HE IS MAX
HAINEES, COLUMNIST, AUTHO
AND STORYTELLER
EXTRAORDINARY.
AND THE BRITISH NOVELIST
MICHELLE ROBERTS WHO WROTE
THE LOOKING GLASS, ONE OF MY
FAVOURITE BOOKS OF THE
SEASON.
NEXT WEEK ON “IMPRINT.”

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