Transcript: Surviving Recession, Movies | Mar 23, 2001

(music plays)
The opening sequence shows a wooden table with a small lit candle as several words fly by: Nutrition, medicine, prevention, treatment, health.
Fast clips show different sets of hands performing activities on the table such as pulling petals from a daisy, drawing a big red heart, tuning a violin, flipping through the pages of a book, cooking, and pouring a glass of red wine.
In animation, the title appears inside the shape of a house: “More to life.”

Maureen Taylor sits in a studio with printed brown walls and a small chart in the background, which reads “More to life.”

Maureen is in her late thirties, with wavy brown hair in a bob. She’s wearing a grey blazer over a lavender blouse.

She says
HI I'M MAUREEN TAYLOR.
WELCOME TO “MORE TO LIFE.”
LATER IN THE SHOW OSCAR
PICKS FROM THE OUR MOVIE
REVIEWER THOM ERNST.
BUT FIRST THE ONTARIO
ECONOMY HAS SLOWED.
IT'S NOT A RECESSION BUT
THERE'S LESS GROWTH.
WHAT DOES THAT MEAN?
IN A MOMENT ANSWERS FROM OUR
EXPERTS, BUT FIRST WE HEAR
FROM A COUPLE OF TORONTO
FAMILIES.

A clip plays. A waitress serves coffee for two women sitting at a table at Juke Box Cafe.

The Waitress says HELLO.
COFFEE FOR YOU?

Jill says YES,
PLEASE.

The caption changes to “Jill McLean.” She’s in her late thirties. She has long, wavy brown hair and wears glasses, and a light blue shirt over a purple T-shirt.

The Waitress says GREAT. FOR YOU,
TOO?

Helen says OKAY, THANKS.

Jill says ONE OF THE CENTRES I WORK
AT I HAVE FOUR PART-TIME
JOBS.
WE'RE ABOUT TO LOSE 10 PERCENT OF
OUR FUNDING WHICH MAY MEAN
I'LL LOSE PART OF MY HOURS.
I HAVE TWO CHILDREN TO
SUPPORT SO I'M CONCERNED
ABOUT LOSING A JOB BECAUSE
ONE LESS JOB MEANS WHAT DO
YOUR CHILDREN NOT GET THIS
MONTH.
YEAH.

The caption changes to “Helen Armstrong.” She’s in her thirties. She has short, curly brown hair and wears glasses, a brown blazer over a green blouse.

Helen says
I'M A STAY-AT-HOME PARENT
NOW WITH A DAUGHTER WHO IS
ALMOST 2 YEARS OLD.
I AM DOING SOME CONTRACT
WORKS.
I'M LOOKING FOR WORK BUT
FINDING IT INCREASINGLY
DIFFICULT.
I THINK THAT WHEN YOU'RE A
CONTRACT WORKER, YOU ALWAYS
KNOW YOU'RE THE FIRST OUT
THE DOOR AND THAT YOUR
CONTRACT POSSIBLY WON'T BE
RENEWED, AND NOW WE KNOW
THAT THERE'S CONSTANT SHUFFLING
GOING ON, AND THAT YOU HAVE
TO DO YOUR WORK REALLY
QUICKLY.
MUCH MORE QUICKLY, MUCH MORE
RESPONSIBILITY, LOWER PAY.
LESS TIME TO DO YOUR WORK.
SO IT'S A DIFFICULT ENVIRONMENT
TO BE WORKING IN.

Jill says
LIVING WITHOUT BENEFITS
AND HAVING TWO SMALL
CHILDREN IS ONE OF THE
SCARIEST THINGS EVER.
THE REASON I PICKED UP THE
LAST JOB, IT WAS ONLY LIKE A
SIX-WEEK CONTRACT.
VERY SHORT TERM TO PAY FOR
THE FIRST INSTALLMENT OF MY
DAUGHTER'S BRACES AND WHEN
YOU HAVE NO BENEFIT, WHEN
YOU'RE WORKING SEVERAL
PART-TIME JOBS, IT'S A BIG
DEAL.
JUST THIS PAST WEEKEND MY
7-YEAR-OLD HAD A BIRTHDAY
PARTY TO GO TO AND I DIDN'T
GET PAID WHEN I WAS SUPPOSED
TO GET PAID SO WE WERE GOING
LIKE, OH, MY GOD, SHE NEEDS
A PRESENT FOR THE PARTY AND
AS WE WERE TALKING TODAY
CAMP LAST WEEK, THEY WERE
TALKING ABOUT WHAT BEENIE
BABY THEY COULD GIVE UP, SO
THIS LITTLE GIRL COULD HAVE
A BIRTHDAY PRESENT, SO MY
CHILDREN ARE UNDERSTANDING
WHAT IT'S LIKE TO HAVE
ENOUGH MONEY AND THEY
SHOULDN'T HAVE TO HAVE AN
UNDERSTANDING OF THAT AT 9
AND 7.

Helen says
IT'S INTERESTING FOR ME
TO CONTEMPLATE WHERE I COULD
CUT BACK EVEN MORE IN MY
LIFE BECAUSE OUR FAMILY IS
ON SUCH A STRICT BUDGET NOW,
THAT WHILE WE DID TAKE A
VACATION THIS YEAR FOR
FIRST-TIME IN SIX YEARS, WE
CERTAINLY WON'T DO THAT
AGAIN IN THE NEXT THREE
YEARS.
WE WILL PROBABLY THINK
REALLY CAREFULLY ABOUT
WHETHER WE CAN AFFORD TO EAT
OUT AT ALL, WE ALSO WILL BE
VERY CAREFUL ABOUT DRIVING
ANYWHERE BECAUSE IT'S TOO
EXPENSIVE TO DRIVE WITH THE
PRICE OF GAS.
LIKE HOW CAN YOU BE ALLOWED
TO SPEND ALL OF THIS MONEY
ON LIKE POLITICS AND STUFF
LIKE THAT WHEN I'M
STRUGGLING TO FEED MY CHILD
EVERY MONTH OR HAVING TO
PICK UP A FOURTH PART-TIME
JOB TO PAY FOR BRACES THIS
IS NOT FAIR AND WE WILL
CONTINUE STRUGGLING BUT
WE'LL ALSO CONTINUING
FIGHTING BACK EVERY MONTH.
EVERY DAY.

Maureen appears again, sitting in the studio.

Maureen says OKAY, REAL
CONCERNS THERE, BUT WHAT CAN
ONTARIO FAMILIES DO?
WE'LL GET ADVICE FROM JIM
STANFORD AN ECONOMIST WITH
THE CANADIAN AUTO WORKERS
AND JILL JUKES, A CAREER
MANAGER WITH MURRAY AXSMITH
AND ASSOCIATES.
WE ALSO WANT TO HEAR FROM
YOU.
HOW AS WELL SLOWDOWN IN THE
ECONOMY AFFECT YOUR FAMILY.
WHAT ABOUT THIS TALK OF
KEEPING PUBLIC SERVICE
SALARY INCREASES TO 2 PERCENT?
IS THAT FAIR?
DO YOU HAVE A PLAN FOR
WEATHERING THE DOWNTURN?

A caption appears on screen showing two phone numbers.

Maureen continues
IN TORONTO DIAL
416-484-2727.
IF IT'S LONG DISTANCE, IT'S
FREE, 1-888-411-1234.
AND YOU CAN ALSO e-mail YOUR
MESSAGE TO US YOUR COMMENTS
AND QUESTIONS TO THE MORETO
THELIFE AT TVO.ORG.
THANK YOU FOR COMING IN.
FROM THE TAPE WE SEE PEOPLE
ARE WORRIED ABOUT LOOSING
THEIR JOBS AND LIVING
PAYCHEQUE TO PAYCHEQUE RIGHT
NOW.
ARE THOSE FEARS WARRANTED
JILL IN YOUR OPINION.

Jill appears on screen. She’s in her fifties. She has short wavy dark blond hair. She wears glasses, a dark grey blazer over a white blouse, pearl earring and a matching necklace.

Jill says
WHAT I THINK WE'RE SEEING
IS A WIDE RANGE OF PEOPLE.
WE HAVE TWO PEOPLE WE JUST
LOOKED AT, WHO WERE VERY
TIGHT, VERY TIGHT.
WE'VE BEEN IN THIS SITUATION
WHERE THE ECONOMY HAS BEEN
BOOMING ALONG AND I THINK WE
FORGET THAT THERE'S A WIDE
RANGE OF PEOPLE WITH A
VARIETY OF FINANCIAL
CONCERNS.
THERE ARE PEOPLE DOING VERY
WELL, AND THERE ARE PEOPLE
WHO ARE STILL STRUGGLING AND
THAT DIDN'T CHANGE BECAUSE
THE ECONOMY WAS GOOD.

Maureen says
YOU GET SENSE THAT THOSE
TWO WOMEN STILL FELT LIKE
THIS FOR THE LAST FOUR OR
FIVE YEARS THE BOOM YEARS,
RIGHT JIM?

Jim is in his forties. He has short dark hair in a neat cut and is clean-shaven. He wears a dark suit, white shirt and a contrasting tie. The caption changes to “Jim Stanford. Canadian Auto Workers Economist.”

Jim says IT TOOK AN AWFUL LOT TIME
FOR OUR ECONOMIC RECOVERY TO
GET GOING.
REMEMBER IN THE MID 90s IT
FELT WE WERE STILL IN A
RECESSION.
AND THEN IT TOOK LONGER
STILL FOR THE BENEFITS TO
TRICKLE DOWN, ONCE THE PACE
OF ECONOMIC GROWTH REALLY
DID PICK UP AT THE END OF
THE DECADE.
SO, FOR FOLKS WHO LIVE FROM
PAYCHEQUE TO PAYCHEQUE AND
THERE ARE AWFUL LOT OF THEM
OUT THERE, IT SEEMS LIKE IT
CAN'T POSSIBLY BE TIME FOR
ANOTHER SLOWDOWN.
WE JUST GOT OVER THE LAST
ONE.
AND I HAVEN'T HAD THE GOOD
TIMES YET.
WHEN ARE THOSE GOOD TIMES
GOING TO COME?

Maureen says HOW MANY TIMES
DID THE “GOOD TIMES.”
ACTUALLY LAST, JILL?

The caption changes to “Jill Jukes. Career Manager.”

Jill says I THINK THE GOOD TIMES
WERE JUST A FEW YEARS, THE
SENSE WAS JUST THE LAST
COUPLE YEARLES.
AND I AGREE WITH JIM IT TOOK
A LONG TIME FOR THE ECONOMY
TO TURN AROUND ONCE WE
STARTED TO HIT THE GOOD
TIMES, IT DIDN'T TRICKLE
DOWN FOR A LONG TIME.

Maureen says THERE IS A
CERTAIN ANTICIPATION ABOUT
WHETHER THE BAD TIMES ARE
TRULY BACK.
AND JIM, THEY'RE NOT CALLING
THIS A RECESSION.
EXPLAIN THE DIFFERENCE
BETWEEN A SLOWDOWN AND A
RECESSION.

Jim says WELL, A SLOWDOWN IS WHEN
THE ECONOMY DOES CONTINUE TO
GROW.
INCOMES INCREASE AND MAYBE
JOBS ARE CREATED.
IT'S JUST THE ECONOMY NOT
GROWING AS QUICKLY AS IT
USED TO BE.
WHEN YOU'RE DRIVING IN A CAR,
YOU SLOW DOWN, YOU'RE STILL
GOING FORWARD BUT YOU'VE
SLOAN DOWN.
THAT'S PROBABLY WHAT'S
HAPPENING THIS YEAR.
WE HAD TWO OR THREE YEARS IN
ONTARIO AND IN CANADA WITH
VERY STRONG GROWTH.
THOUSANDS OF NEW JOBS
AND THAT WAS REALLY ONLY
SINCE 1998 WHEN THE ECONOMY
STARTED TO ROLL.
THIS YEAR WE'LL PROBABLY BE
DOWN TO 2 TO 3 PERCENT IN GROWTH.
NOT MUCH OF THE WAY OF NEW
JOBS BEING CREATED.
PERHAPS A BIT UP IN
UNEMPLOYMENT.
I'M KEEPING MY FINGERS
CROSSED IT'S NOT AN ACTUAL
RECESSION.
A RECESSION IS WHEN YOU TAKE
THAT CAR, STOP IT AND PUT
INTO IT REVERSE SO YOU'RE
ACTUALLY GOING BACKWARDS.
IN ECONOMIC TERMS MEANS TO
ECONOMY IS SHRINKING AND
THAT'S WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING
AT THE PROSPECT OF HUNDREDS
OF THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE
LOSING THEIR JOBS AND
INCOMES ACTUALLY FALLING.
I'M HOPING THAT THIS IS NOT
A RECESSION.
I THINK MOST ECONOMISTS
STILL BELIEVE IT'S JUST A
SLOWDOWN.
LATER THIS YEAR, EARLY NEXT
YEAR WE'LL SEE A REBOUND IN
GROWTH RATES.
BUT THERE ARE
PEOPLE LOSING THEIR JOBS
ALREADY AND THERE'S A LOT OF
INSECURITY OUT THERE.

Maureen says WHAT ARE YOU
HEARING ABOUT THAT.

The caption changes to “Today’s topic: Surviving the recession.”

Jill says I THINK ONE OF THE GOOD
THINGS ACTUALLY ABOUT THIS
SLOWDOWN IS IT'S COMPTON THE
HEELS OF AN INCREDIBLE
NUMBER OF JOBS BEING
AVAILABLE.
THE THE SUPPLY AND DEMAND OF
JOBS TO PEOPLE WHO ARE
OUTSTANDING IN THEIR FIELD,
IT IS HUGE.
SO WE HAVE MORE PEOPLE FOR
FEWER JOBS.
OR, SORRY, WE HAVE MORE
PEOPLE FOR A GREATER NUMBER
OF JOBS.
THERE ARE MANY COMPANIES
THROUGHOUT THAT HAVE A
ROSTER OF JOBS THEY CAN'T
FILL AND THAT'S NOT USUAL.
THE TYPICALLY WHEN WE'VE
SLID INTO A DOWNTURN WE'VE
BEEN IN A TIGHT SITUATION
GRADUALLY BUT THIS IS
FALLING ON THE HEELS OF AN
AWFUL LOT OF JOBS BEING
AVAILABLE SO.
PERHAPS IF OUR FINGERS ARE
CROSSED IN THE RIGHT WAY,
THERE WILL STILL BE A NUMBER
OF JOBS TO BE FILLED
CERTAINLY THERE WILL BE A
SHRINKING NUMBER BUT WE'LL
HAVE SOME TO WORK ON.

Maureen says
BUT THE JOBS THEY CAN'T
FILL USUALLY THEY CALL THEM.
HIGHLY SKILLED WORKERS,
THEY'RE LOOKING FOR SKILLED
LABOURERS, AND ONE GETS THE
SENSE ONE OF THE TWO WOMEN
MAY NOT BE ABLE TO FILL
THOSE JOBS BECAUSE THEY
DON'T HAVE THOSE PARTICULAR
SKILLS.
WHAT ABOUT THAT?

Jill says
I THINK THERE ARE TWO
SIDES TO THAT.
ONE THAT SOME OF THEM ARE
HIGHLY TECHNICAL, HIGHLY
SKILLED.
OTHERS ARE JOBS IN FAIRLY
COMMON FIELDS LIKE
ACCOUNTING, CONTROLLERS,
IT'S NOT AS IF THEY ARE
SKILLED BUT THEY'RE NOT
HIGHLY SKILLED, AS SOMEBODY
WHO IS EXTREME TECHNICAL
KNOWLEDGE.
BUT CERTAINLY THERE ARE
STILL SIGNS OUT THERE FOR
PEOPLE IN ENTRY LEVEL
POSITIONS OR LESS SKILLED
POSITIONS, HELP WANTED.
SO THERE ARE SOME OUT THERE,
THE QUESTION IS DO THEY PAY
WELL ENOUGH?

Maureen says
DO THEY OFFER ENOUGH
HOURS?

Jim says FOR SURE.
ONE OF THE SIGNS OF STRENGTH
THAT WE SAW IN THE LAST
COUPLE YEARS ACTUALLY WAS
ACTUALLY DECLINE IN THE
NUMBER OF PART-TIME JOBS AND
THE CREATION OF FULL-TIME
PERMANENT POSITIONS WITH
BENEFITS AND GENERALLY
HIGHER LEVELS OF INCOME AND
THAT WAS A VERY, VERY
POSITIVE SIGN OF THE
ECONOMIC GROWTH WE HAD IN
THE LAST COUPLE YEARS.
I DON'T KNOW IF THAT TREND
WILL NOW REVERT BACK TO A
SITUATION PEOPLE WILL HAVE
TO TAKE A NUMBER OF
PART-TIME JOBS.
I HOPE NOT.
THE THING ABOUT SKILLS
MAUREEN AS WELL.
EVEN SOME OF THE HIGHLY
SKILLED PEOPLE ARE BEING
LAID OFF HERE AS WELL.
NORTEL NETWORKS HAS BEEN
THROWING A LOT OF PEOPLE OUT
ON THE STREET.
SO, TO BE SURE FOR AN
INDIVIDUAL YOU'RE BETTER OFF
TO HAVE MORE SKILLS RATHER
THAN LESS BUT THE MOTION WE
CAN AS A SOCIETY PREVENT
THIS THING SIMPLY BY
INCREASING OUR SKILL LEVEL
IS WRONG.
STILL HAVE THE BOOM AND BUST
FROM THIS PRIVATE MARKET
ECONOMY.

Maureen says LET'S LOOK AT
THE INDUSTRY YOU KNOW BEST.
THE AUTO INDUSTRY.
WHAT IS THAT A SIGN OF?

Jim says DIRECTLY WHAT IT'S A SIGN
OF IS A COOLING OFF OF THE
DEMAND FOR NEW VEHICLES.
PARTICULARLY IN THE UNITED
STATES.
AGAIN IN THE LAST COUPLE
YEARS YOU HAD A RED HOT
MARKET.
THEY BOUGHT MORE CONSUMERS
BOUGHT MORE NEW VEHICLES
THAN AT ANY OTHER TIME IN
THE HISTORY AND THAT WAS
GOOD WHILE IT LASTED.
UNFORTUNATELY, WHEN YOU KIND
OF DRIVE THE WHOLE ECONOMY
AND WHOLE INDUSTRY TO THESE
PEAKS, YOU KNOW THEY CAN'T
BE SUSTAINED SO IN A WAY
IT'S UNFORTUNATE.
THE HIGHER YOU GO THE MORE
DISTANCE YOU CAN FALL ON THE
WAY DOWN AND THAT'S WHAT
WE'RE SEEING NOW.
WE'RE SEEING A DECLINE IN
NEW VEHICLE SALES THIS YEAR
IN NORTH AMERICA OF 10 OR
15 PERCENT AND THAT MEANS THAT
EVERY AUTO ASSEMBLY PLANT ON
AVERAGE IN THE CONTINENT IS
GOING TO BE REING ITS OUTPUT
BY 10 OR 15 PERCENT.
SOME WILL BE HIT HARDER THAN
OTHERS.
AND THEN YOU'LL GET A
CORRESPONDING DECLINE IN
EMPLOYMENT.
MY GUESS IS YOU'LL SEE 4 OR
5,000 JOBS LOST IN OTTAWA
AUTO ASSEMBLY AND THAT MUCH
AND MORE IN THE SOME OF THE
TRICKLE DOWN EFFECTS ARE
FELT.
THAT'S VERY SERIOUS.
THAT'S A LOT OF PAIN FOR THE
INDIVIDUALS AFFECTED.
ON ITS OWN IT WON'T BE
ENOUGH TO THROW US INTO AN
ACTUAL RECESSION.
IF THE DOMESTIC ECONOMY
MAINTAINS MOMENTUM.
THE COUNTRY AS A WHOLE WILL
STILL GROW.
BUT IT'S A VERY NEGATIVE SIGN
AND WE'RE WATCHING IT
CLOSELY.

Maureen says
AND THOSE WORKERS WHO ARE
GETTING LAID OFF, JILL, WHAT
WOULD YOUR ADVICE BE TO
THEM?
ABOUT TRYING TO GET BACK
INTO THE WORKFORCE EITHER IN
ANOTHER AREA, ARE THEIR
SKILLS TRANSFER TO BELIEVE
ANOTHER SECTOR?
WHAT WOULD YOU TELL THEM?

Jill says I THINK VIRTUALLY
EVERYONE, WE'VE HAD TWO
THINGS THAT SAY TO PEOPLE,
YOU REALLY NEED TO LOOK
AFTER YOUR CAREER, YOUR
WORK.
WHATEVER IT IS THAT YOU CALL
IT.
YOU NEED TO REALLY EVALUATE
YOUR SKILLS.
WHATEVER THEY ARE.
WHETHER YOU'RE A FRONTLINE
WORKER, WHETHER YOU'RE A
MANAGER.
YOU REALLY NEED TO TAKE A
LOOK.
WHAT ARE THE SKILLS I HAVE,
WHERE ELSE MIGHT THEY BE
APPLICABLE AND NOT WAIT TO
DO THAT UNTIL SOMETHING
HAPPENS IN YOUR INDUSTRY.
ALL INDUSTRIES ARE CHANGING,
AND IT ISN'T THE ECONOMIC
SLOWDOWN THAT'S CAUSING THIS,
IT'S A LOT OF OTHER
INFLUENCES.
GLOBALIZATION, TECHNOLOGY,
CHANGE IN CUSTOMER DEMANDS.
COMPANIES NEEDING TO RESPOND
QUICKLY SO THEIR BOTTOM LINE
LOOKS GOOD.
WE HAVE NORTEL CHANGING
THEIR FOCUS.
AND LETTING PEOPLE GO AROUND
THE WORLD, THAT'S NOT JUST
HIGH-TECH THAT'S ALL
COMPANIES ARE ON VERY TIGHT
TIME FRAMES.
SO AS AN INDIVIDUAL I NEED
TO LOOK AFTER MY WORK.
A COMPANY CAN'T DO THAT FOR
ME.
WHAT ARE MY SKILLS.
WHAT OTHER AREAS IN MY
COMPANY MIGHT INTEREST ME.
WHAT OTHER AREAS IN RELATED
BUSINESSES, SO IS IT WORKING
WITH A SUPPLIER?
IS IT WORKING IN A RELATED
BUSINESS?
YOU'RE GOING TO BE FLASHING
UP AT THE END OF THE
PROGRAMME A WEB SITE A
GOVERNMENT OF CANADA WEB
SITE HRDC HAS GOOD TOOLS TO
GO IN AND JUST TAKE A LOOK
AND HELP ME IDENTIFY SKILLS
I HAVE AND WHAT COULD I
TRANSFER THEM TOO, SO YOU
IMMEDIATE TO BE AWARE OF
THAT NOW BEFORE YOU'RE OUT
OF WORK.

Maureen says ALL RIGHT, WE'RE
TALKING ABOUT THE ECONOMY,
JOB SECURITY, WHETHER THIS
IS AFFECTING YOUR FAMILY
YET.
WHETHER BY AGONIZING ABOUT
IT WE CAN THROW THE ECONOMY
INTO A RECESSION.
I DON'T KNOW, THAT COULD
HAPPEN.
GIVE US A CALL AND YOUR
COMMENTS AND WAY YOUR
FAMILY'S MINDSET IS AS WE
LOOK AT AN ECONOMIC SLOWDOWN
IN CANADA.
IN TORONTO, 416-484-2727.
LONG DISTANCE, DIAL
TOLL-FREE, 1-888-411-1234,
AND YOU CAN PUT YOUR
COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS DOWN
ON AN E-MAIL AND SEND IT TO
MORETOLIFE AT TVO.ORG.
HI VICKIE.

Vickie says HI THERE.

Maureen continues
IS THERE THIS AFFECTING YOUR
FAMILY YET.

Vickie says IT CERTAINLY HAS.
I'M A REGISTERED NURSE
WORKING IN SOUTHERN ONTARIO.
AND WE'RE LOOKING AT OUR
CONTRACT COMING UP AND YOU
WERE TALKING ABOUT THE 2 PERCENT
AND WE'RE BEING CAUTION
ABOUT THAT BUT I DON'T SEE
HOW 2 PERCENT IS GOING TO HELP MY
FAMILY.
WITH MY PAY.
I'VE ALREADY INCREASING
WAGES FOR EVERYONE ELSEWHERE
OURS CAN'T BE INCREASED AND
MISTER HARRIS WOULD LIKE TO
KEEP IT AT 2 PERCENT IF WE GET
THAT.
I HAVE TWO CHILDREN LIVING
AT HOME AND TRYING TO FIND
FULL-TIME POSITIONS WHICH IS
DIFFICULT TO DO.
I'VE BEEN PART TIME, BEEN
THROUGH LAYOFFS BACK IN '92.
AND WE'RE STILL LOOKING FOR
FINANCIAL HE WILL FROM THE
GOVERNMENT INTO THE HEALTH
CARE SYSTEM.
WE HAVE YOUNG NURSES IN THE
STATES.
WE NEED TO ENTICE THEM BACK
TO WORK WITH US.
SOME OF US ARE GOING TO BE
55 AND PLUS, WOULD LIKE TO
RETIRE.
AND THE SALARY ISN'T THERE
FOR THEM.

Maureen says ARE YOU SAYING
YOU'RE ONLY WORKING
PART-TIME NOW.

Vickie says YES, I AM.
I'VE BEEN PART-TIME SINCE
1992.

Maureen says AND YOU CAN'T
FIND A FULL-TIME JOB AS A
NURSE.

Vickie confirms and continues
THAT'S RIGHT.
WE'RE LOOKING AT IN OUR
SMALL FACILITY THERE'S BEEN
ONE FULL-TIME POSITION
THAT'S COME UP THAT WE'VE
BEEN ABLE TO APPLY TO.
UNFORTUNATELY WE HAD QUITE A
FEW YEARS SENIORITY WHEN WE
HAD LAYOFFS AND THE JOB
PICTURE OUT THERE IS THAT
THEY'RE LOOKING TO HIRE MORE
PART-TIME PEOPLE.
LESS BENEFITS THEY HAVE TO
PAY OUT.
LESS SICK TIME THEY HAVE TO
PAY OUT AND IF THEY CAN FILL
THE SPOTS WITH PART-TIME A
LOT OF COMPANIES ARE DOING
THAT, SO MORE PEOPLE ARE
HAVING TO HAVE TWO, THREE,
FOUR PART-TIME POSITIONS
LIKE THAT YOUNG LADY ON
EARLIER.

Maureen says
BRINGS THE PUBLIC SECTOR
ASPECT INTO THIS.
DO YOU WANT TO MAKE COMMENT.

Jim says
SOME OF THE PEOPLE I FEEL
THE MOST FOR ARE WORKERS IN
THE PUBLIC SECOND OR THE,
NURSES, TEACHERS, ANYONE
ELSE IN A GOVERNMENT-FUNDED
AGENCY.
THEY HAD THEIR BELTS
TIGHTENED MORE THAN ANYONE
ELSE DID IN THE 90s.
NO DOUBT ABOUT IT.
MOST PUBLIC SECTORS WORKERS
HAD A WAGE FREEZE FOR THE
WHOLE DECADE.
AND THAT TRANSLATE INTO A
REAL DECLINE IN THE 3UR
CHASING POWER BECAUSE
CONSUMER PRICES WERE GOING
UP YEAR AND YEAR.
THEY WERE TOLD WE HAVE TO
GET THE DEFICIT IN ORDER,
THE HOUSE IN ORDER THEN
WE'LL COMPENSATE YOU, NOW WE
FINALLY GOT THE DEFICIT IN
ORDER, OF SURPLUSES AND SO
ON AND THE GOVERNMENT IS
SAYING NO, WE STILL CAN'T DO
IT THAT, 2 PERCENT RAISE WON'T EVEN
KEEP UP WITH CONSUMER
PRICES.
INFLATION AND ON TOP OF THAT
TO MAKE UP TO THE WAGE
FREEZE IT MUST BE SO
DISCOURAGING TO SEE SLOWDOWN
AND THIS TALK FROM
GOVERNMENT ABOUT ANOTHER
WAGE FREEZE.

Maureen says AND THE THE
REPORTS IN THE PAPER ABOUT
HOW BADLY WE NEED NURSES AND
JOB FAIRS TO ENTICE THEM
BACK AND VICKIE CAN'T EVEN
GET A FULL-TIME JOB.
WHAT DO YOU THINK IS GOING
ON THERE, JILL THIS.

Jill says
IT'S A VERY DIFFICULT
SITUATION.
AND I THINK PEOPLE ARE
FEELING BETRAYED.
VICKIE AND LOTS OF OTHER
PEOPLE.
HOW COULD THIS BE HAPPENING.
HERE WE ARE IN A GOOD
ECONOMIC SITUATION AND MY
JOB NOTHING HAS HAPPENED.
NOTHING HAS CHANGED.
AND YOU TALKED EARLIER, JIM
ABOUT THE TRICKLE-DOWN
EFFECT.
IT HASN'T IMPACTED THE
HEALTH CARE SYSTEM.
TO THE GREAT DEGREE ON THE
PRACTICAL SIDE IN TERMS OF
EMPLOYMENT.
THERE MAY BE MONEY BEING
FUNNELED INTO IT BUT NOT
AFFECTED THE NURSES AND
OBVIOUSLY VERY CONCERNED.

Maureen says I GUESS THE
GOVERNMENT IS WORRIED ABOUT
THEY KEEP USING THE TORONTO
AN 8 PERCENT INCREASE AND SAY WE
DON'T WANT TO SEE THAT IN
THE REST OF THE PUBLIC
SECTOR.
THEY THEY WORRY IS WAGE
INCREASES ARE TOO HIGH IT
WILL SPAWN INFLATION.
OR IS THAT THE WAY IT GOES?

Jim says I DON'T THINK IT REALLY
IS AN ECONOMIC ISSUE.
I THINK IT'S A COLLECTION OF
VALUES AND PRIORITIES.
THE GOVERNMENT SAYS WE'VE
GOT ROOM FOR MORE TAX CUTS,
BUT FOR SOME REASON WE DON'T
HAVE THE ROOM FOR A WAGE
INCREASE FOR PUBLIC SERVANTS,
HAVEN'T HAD ONE FOR A
DECADE.
IT'S THE SAME MONEY THAT
SAME ECONOMIC IMPACT.
EITHER WAY IT'S MORE MONEY
IN SOMEBODY'S POCKET.
TAX CUT GOES TO HIGH INCOME
EARNERS WHO ARE ALREADY
DOING QUITE WELL.
A WAGE INCREASE FOR TEACHERS
AND NURSES WOULD GO INTO
PEOPLE'S POCKETS WHO HAVE
BEEN CRIMPED FOR A DECADE.

Maureen says
DOES THAT MEAN YOU WOULD
LIKE TO SEE THE ONTARIO AND
FEDERAL GOVERNMENT CANCEL
THEIR TAX CUT PLAN.

Jim says
I WOULD PREFER THEM TO BE
PUTTING ANY DISCRETIONARY
FUNDS THEY HAVE INTO
REBUILDING SOME OF THOSE
PROGRAMS INCLUDING NEW
HIRING AND RAISES FOR PEOPLE
WHO HAVEN'T HAD A RAISE IN A
DECADE AND INSTEAD OF
TALKING ABOUT ACCELERATING
THESE PLANNED TAX CUT.

Maureen says
DO YOU HAVE AN OPINION ON
THAT JILL.

Jill says I THINK I WOULD TEND TO
AGREE, BUT I THINK THERE ARE
ALSO PEOPLE FOR WHOM THAT
TAX CUT MIGHT BE OF GREAT
VALUE.
THE TWO PEOPLE WE WERE JUST
LISTENING TO, THAT SUM OF
MONEY ISN'T A LARGE AMOUNT
OF MONEY BUT WOULD GO INTO
PAYING THE BRACES AND BILLS
AND OTHER THINGS, SO, I
GUESS IT'S A QUESTION OF
WHERE WE SHOULD PUT IT BUT
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE
HEALTH CARE SYSTEM.
AND IT'S BEEN UNDER SUCH A
STRAIN.
AND THAT'S A PERSONAL
OPINION.

Maureen says YEAH, OKAY, VICKIE, I
WANT TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR
CALL.
RON IS IN TORONTO.
HELLO, RON.

Ron says
YES, HELLO, GOOD DAY.
I WOULD LIKE TO TAKE
ADVANTAGE THE OF THE FACT TO
MAKE THE COMMENT THAT
CAPITALISM HAS NEVER
PROVIDED FULL EMPLOYMENT.
IT JUST DOESN'T HAPPEN UNDER
THAT SYSTEM, AND SO WHAT
WORKINGS NEED TO ORGANIZE
AROUND IS INSTITUTING FACT
THAT A GUARANTEED MINIMUM NJ
THAT'S THE FIRST THING THAT
THEY NEED TO ORGANIZE AROUND,
AND AFTER THAT, WHAT
CITIZENS NEED TO ORGANIZE
AROUND IS THE POWER THAT
THEY HAVE TO WITHDRAW A
CORPORATION'S CHARTER IN
CASE CORPORATION IS NOT
ACTING IN THE RIGHT WAY
TOWARDS THE CITIZENS OF THE
COUNTRY IT HAPPENS TO BE IN.
AND THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO
SAY.

Maureen says OKAY, JIM, YOU
GUYS PROBABLY SIT AROUND THE
TABLE AND TALK ABOUT THIS.

Jim says CERTAINLY IN TERMS OF
GUARANTEED INCOME, WE'RE
CERTAINLY IN AGREEMENT WITH
THE SPIRIT OF THAT IDEA.
THE THE NOTION THAT IF THE
LABOUR FORCE IS WEAK AND
PEOPLE ARE BEING THROWN OUT
OF WORK YOU HAVE TO GIVE
THEM SOMETHING AS A
BACKGROUND OR AS A BACKSTOP.

Maureen says
WE DO THOUGH, RIGHT.
IT'S CALLED WELFARE, RIGHT?

Jim continues
BUT THERE'S PRETTY GAPING
HOLES IN THOSE TRADITIONAL
PROGRAMS.
INSURANCE SYSTEM FOR EXAMPLE,
ONLY ABOUT 40 PERCENT OF PEOPLE WHO
ARE CURRENTLY UNEMPLOYED IN
CANADA QUALIFY FOR BENEFITS
WHICH IS QUITE A
SHAME CONCERNING SOME PAID
INTO THE SYSTEM AND THEIR
PREMIUMS FOR YEARS AND YEARS,
NOW THEY FIND THEY CAN'T
DRAW ON THE SYSTEM WHEN THEY
NEED IT.
WELFARE HAS BEEN CUT BACK
WORSE.
THE REAL SPENDING POWER HAS
BEEN CUT SINCE THE ONTARIO
CONSERVATIVES CAME TO POWER
IN '85.
THERE CAN BE BIG BENEFITS
BECAUSE WHEN THE ECONOMY IS
GOING INTO A DOWNTURN.
WHAT IS THE RISK.
THE RISK IS PEOPLE WILL FEEL
INSECURE AND THEY WILL STOP
SPENDING AND THAT WAS KIND
OF LIKE WHAT YOU ELUDED TO
EARLIER WHEN YOU TALKED HOW
WE COULD TALK OURSELVES INTO
A RECESSION WITH ALL THIS
DOOM AND GLOOM.
SOMETIMES I THINK WE SHOULD
ALL PUT AN EXTRA DOSE OF
PROZAC IN OUR ORANGE JUICE
IN THE MORNING, CHEER UP AND
KEEP SPENDING.
BUT LIKE A BASIC INCOME,
PRESERVES SOME OF THE
PURCHASING POWER OF AVERAGE
WORKING PEOPLE AND IN THAT
WAY STALL A RECESSION.

Maureen says I DID READ, THAT
THESE CUTBACKS IN EI AND
WELFARE HAVE NOT ACTUALLY
BEEN TESTED BY A RECESSION
YET IN CANADA, THESE HAVE
ALL TAKEN PLACE DURING GOOD
TIMES.
IF WE'RE GOING INTO A
DOWNTURN AND HOVERING ON THE
EDGE OF A RECESSION, WE'LL
SEE THE FULL EFFECT OF WHAT
HAPPENS WITH THOSE.
ALL RIGHT INTERESTING, RON,
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
MIKE IS IN SAULT SAINTE MARIE.
MIKE ARE YOU THERE?
GO AHEAD.

Mike says YES.
YEAH, I JUST FEEL THAT
PEOPLE IN SOUTHERN ONTARIO
COMPARED TO NORTHERN ONTARIO,
IF YOU'RE FACING A LAYOFF
THAT'S NOT A GOOD THING, BUT
IT'S A VERY COMMON THING IN
THE PAST TEN YEARS IT SEEMS
IN ONTARIO.
AND PEOPLE SHOULD CONTROL
THEIR SPENDING A LITTLE MORE
LIKE THEY SHOULD TAKE CARE
OF THEIR HOUSES AND LOOK AT
WHAT THEY'RE NEIGHBOURS ARE
GOING THROUGH AND IF THEY'RE
NOT DOING SO WELL THEY
SHOULD FEEL HAPPY FOR WHAT
THEY HAVE AND TO JUST GOVERN
THEIR SPENDING ACCORDINGLY
AND STOP LOOKING AT WHAT
THEY CAN GET.
AND MORE LIKE WITH WHAT THEY
HAVE.
BECAUSE THERE'S NOT TOO MUCH
IN THE WAY OF JOBS UP NORTH.

Maureen says YOU DON'T FEEL
LIKE YOU'VE HAD BOOM TIMES
UP THERE, RIGHT.

Mike says OH, NO BOOM TIMES
WHATSOEVER.
YOU GET A HANDFUL OF JOBS, A
LOT OF STUDENT EMPLOYMENT
PROGRAMMES WHERE YOU HAVE
STUDENTS WORKING IN JOBS
THAT DURING THE SUMMER 18
DOLLARS AN HOUR, LET'S SAY AND YOU
HAVE A LOT OF AVERAGE
MIDDLE-AGED PEOPLE WORK AT
McDONALD'S.

Maureen says SO WHAT WILL
YOUR OWN FAMILY DO, DO YOU
THINK THAT YOU'LL WEATHER A
RECESSION IF WE HAVE ONE OR
A DOWNTURN JUST FINE BECAUSE
IT'S BEEN THAT WAY ALL ALONG
SOME.

Mike says YEAH.
JUST TAKE CARE OF WHAT WE'VE
HAD AND WE'VE BEEN
STRUGGLING FOR ABOUT TEN
YEARS WITH MY FAMILY.
AND WHEN WE LOOK AT THE
SITUATION IN THE REST OF THE
PROVINCE, IT SEEMS TO BE
THAT MORE AND MORE PEOPLE
ARE WANTI MORE MONEY LIKE
I UNDERSTAND LIKE THE
GUARANTEED SUPPLEMENT FOR
THE INCOME LIKE THE
GENTLEMEN WAS TALKING ABOUT.
THAT IS A GOOD THING.
THAT IS A GOOD THING.
AND WELFARE DOESN'T REALLY
WORK IN ONTARIO, BUT WHEN
LIKE THEY'RE FORCING PEOPLE
TO WORK, YOU'RE NOT GETTING
ENOUGH ON WELFARE.

Maureen says YEAH.
ALL RIGHT, GOOD POINT.
I WANT TO GO TO JILL, PEOPLE
IN THE NORTH REALLY DIDN'T
FEEL THE BOOM THE SAME WAY
AS PEOPLE IN SOUTHERN MAYBE
EASTERN ONTARIO DID.

Jill says NO, THEY DIDN'T.
AND ONE OF THE THINGS, AND
THIS GENTLEMEN WAS TALKING
TO IT, IS THAT HE FEELS HE'S
PERHAPS MORE RESILIENT
DURING THESE TIMES THOUGH HE
DOESN'T HAVE NECESSARILY
ANYMORE WHEREWITHAL TO DEAL
WITH, MORE MONEY, MORE
SALARY, MORE WHATEVER BUT HE
FEELS HE CAN MANAGE THIS
WHERE IT PERHAPS SOUNDS LIKE
IN SOUTHERN ONTARIO, WHERE
WE DID HAVE BOOM TIMES WE'RE
PERHAPS DOING MORE WHINING
AND COMPLAINING AT NOT BEING
AS REASONABLE ABOUT THINGS.
I THINK THAT IS ONE OF THE
THINGS PEOPLE NEED TO DO AT
THIS POINT IF THEY CAN IS TO
SAY OKAY.
THERE MAY BE TOUGH TIMES
COMING, AND LOTS OF FAMILIES
CERTAINLY DON'T HAVE ANY
EXTRA, NOT A PENNY.
BUT THOSE THAT DO, SHOULD
PERHAPS BE HANDING THE
FINANCES A LITTLE
DIFFERENTLY AND PITTING
MONEY ASIDE, SO THEY CAN
WEATHER THE TIME.
JUST A LITTLE BIT OF A FUND,
IT MAY BE MONEY WE'RE GOING
TO SPEND ON A LARGE
PURCHASE.
MAYBE SOMETHING PEOPLE CAN
DO WEEK TO WEEK.
AGAIN NOT EVERYONE CAN DO
THAT, BUT IF YOU CAN.
IT PERHAPS WILL GIVE PEOPLE
A LITTLE MORE OF A SENSE OF
SECURITY.
AS WE MOVE INTO THESE TIMES
BECAUSE IT ISN'T JUST THE
ECONOMIC DOWNTURN THAT MIGHT
CAUSE SOMEONE TO THE LOSE
THEIR JOB.

Jim says HERE'S THE IRONY FOR AN
INDIVIDUAL, OBVIOUSLY YOU DO
HAVE TO BE RESPONSIBLE AND
PRUDENT AND HI AHEAD AND DO
I HAVE A CUSHION AND JILL'S
ADVICE IS PROBABLY GOOD.
YET IF EVERYBODY FOLLOWED
JILL'S ADVICE WE WOULD HAVE
THE RECESSION WE'RE WORRIED
ABOUT.
IF EVERYONE PUT OFF THOSE
MAJOR PURCHASES TO STOCK
MONEY AWAY, THAT IN AND OF
ITSELF COULD CREATE THE
RECESSION.
WHERE THERE'S NO OVERALL
GUIDING FORCE TO THE THING.
SO, YOU KNOW ON ONE HAND,
YES, PEOPLE DO HAVE TO
BEHAVE PRUDENTLY, YOU HAVE
TO MANAGE YOUR HOUSEHOLD
FINANCES WITH WHERE IT'S AT
AND PEOPLE ARE SURVIVORS.
PEOPLE WILL GET THROUGH IT.
LAES NO DOUBT ABOUT IT.
ON THE OTHER HAND THAT
SHOULDN'T STOP US FROM
LOOKING FOR THE SHORT OF
POLICY THAT WOULD GET US
THROUGH IT.
I WOULD ARGUE LOWER INTEREST
RATES TO KEEP SPENDING UP.
MEASURES TO IMPROVE CONSUMER
CONFIDENCE SO THEY CONSUMERS
KEEP SPENDING.
PUBLIC INVESTMENT IN PUBLIC
SERVICES AND INFRASTRUCTURE
WHICH CAN CREATE JOBS WHEN
THE BELIEVE IT ECONOMY SLOWS
DOWN.

Maureen says WHAT DOES
MEASURE CONSUMER CONFIDENCE
SOME WHAT'S A GOOD GAUGE TO
TELL.

Jim says THERE ARE ACTUAL SUR
VASES OF CONSUMER SERVICE,
YOU'LL HAVE OPINION POLLS,
NO ONE HAS EVER PHONED ME
CURIOUSLY ENOUGH.
NO ONE HAS ASKED ME FOR MY
CONFIDENCE LEVEL.
BUT THEY'LL ASK, DO YOU FEEL
GOOD.
DO YOU FEEL YOUR CONDITIONS
ARE GOING TO IMPROVE OR
WORSEN.
ARE YOU GOING TO MAKE MAJOR
PURCHASES.

Maureen says
THEY PROBABLY TRACKED
SALES OF THINGS SEEN AS LIKE
BOATS OR COTTAGE.

Jim continues
HOUSE SALES AND SO ON.
THOSE ARE MEASURES AND
THERE'S OBVIOUS EVIDENCE
THAT CONSUMER CONFIDENCE HAS
TAKEN BIT OF A BLOW IN THE
LAST FEW MONTHS.
HOPEFULLY IT WON'T BE A
SERIOUS ONE AND HOPEFULLY IF
WE CAN SHOW THAT I'M RIGHT,
WE ARE JUST GOING INTO A
SLOW DOWN AND NOT AN ACTUAL
RECESSION, I WOULD HOPE FOR
A FLOOD THAT CONFIDENCE
LEVEL LATER IN THE YEAR.

Maureen says
ARE YOU SAYING THAT THE
GOVERNMENT COULD DO
SOMETHING TO IMPROVE
CONSUMER CONFIDENCE.

Jim says
ARE THERE SIGNALS THEY WITH
SEND ASTRONAUT LIMITED
INFLUENCE IN THE SHORT RUN.
I THINK THE GOVERNMENT COULD
DO HINGES LIKE INVESTING IN
HEALTH CARE AND EDUCATION AT
A TIME LIKE THIS TO CREATE
NEW JOBS.
INVEST IN INFRASTRUCTURE
WHICH IS A GOOD TYPE OF
PROJECT TO UNDERTAKE DURING
A SLOW TIME IN THE ECONOMY.
THE CENTRAL BANK CAN HELP.
BY CUTTING INTEREST RATES,
RIGHT.

Jill says WHICH THEY’RE DOING.

Jim continues
I ALSO THINK WE COULD
STOP PAYING SO MUCH
ATTENTION TO THE STOCK
MARKET.

Maureen says I WAS HOPING
SOMEONE WOULD--

Jim continues
PEOPLE TAKE IT SERIOUSLY
AS IF IT'S SOME KIND OF REAL
BELLWETHER AND IT'S NOT.
THE STOCK MARKET IS A
GIGANTIC CASINO AND BECAUSE
SOME HIGH FLYERS HAVE TAKEN
IT ON THE NOSE IN THE LAST
LITTLE WHILE IN NO WAY WE
SHOULD LET THAT INFILTRATE
OUR CONSCIOUSNESS.

Maureen smiles and says
I WISH I NEVER
HEARD OF NASDAQ, OKAY.
HI MARGARET.

Margaret says HI.

Maureen says HOW IS YOUR
FAMILY GOING TO WEATHER
THIS?

Margaret continues MY FAMILY?
MY FAMILY IS NOT GOING
THROUGH THIS GOOD AT ALL.
I HAVE A QUESTION AND JILL
SAID SOMETHING ABOUT
IMPROVING SKILLS.
WHEN I WAS LAID OFF, I TO
IMPROVE MY SKILLS.
I DID TWO COURSES, BUSINESS
AND COMPUTER APPLICATIONS
DIPLOMA AND THEN I GOT
COMPUTER DIPLOMA, BUT SINCE
THEN I DID THESE TWO COURSES
BACK TO BACK OVER TWO YEARS.
I'M WATCHING YOU GUYS TV AS
WELL AS I'M TALKING -- SO
SINCE I FINISHED SCHOOL
WHICH IS NOW COMING TO
ALMOST THREE YEARS, I CANNOT
GET A REASONABLE JOB.
THE JOB THAT I GOT NOW PAYS
ME 10 DOLLARS AN HOUR.
I GOT MY KIDS WITH ME, I'M A
SINGLE PARENT.
I GOT TO PAY ROENT.
I GOT TO BUY FOOD.
ONE OF MY KIDS IS ON
PERMANENT MEDICATION.
I HAVE TO SUPPLY THAT.
ON TOP OF THAT I'VE GOT
STUDENT LOANS TO PAY BACK.
ALL I'M DOING RIGHT NOW IS
KEEP APPLYING FOR INTEREST
RELIEF.
I KEEP APPLYING FOR JOBS.
EVERY TIME I GO FOR
INTERVIEWS THEY TELL ME IT'S
GOING TOO WELL.
WE'LL CALL YOU BACK.
I WISH THEY WOULD STOP LYING
TO PEOPLE.
TELL ME IN MY FACE YOU
DIDN'T MAKE IT.
MY QUESTION IS WITH IMPROVED
SKILLS WHAT SHOULD YOU DO TO
GET REASONABLE JOBS?

Maureen says YEAH, AND NOT
ONLY SHOULD THE EMPLOYER NOT
LIE TO YOU BUT THEY SHOULD
TELL YOU WHY YOU DIDN'T GET
THE JOB.
JILL, WHAT'S YOUR ADVICE TO
HER?

Jill says
I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS
TO DO AND AGAIN, WE HAVEN'T
HAD A CHAT ABOUT HOW YOU'VE
BEEN LOOK FOR WORK, ONE OF
THE THINGS TO DO IS TAKE A
LOOK AT HOW YOU'RE
PERFORMING IN THE INTERVIEW,
AND SOMETIMES YOU CAN
ACTUALLY CALL AND EMPLOYER
BACK AND SAY I UNDERSTAND I
DIDN'T GET THE JOB, AND YOUR
TONE OF VOICE HAS A LOT TO
DO WHETHER AN EMPLOYER IS
WILLING TO TALK TO YOU HERE,
BUT WOULD YOU HELP ME, WERE
THERE THINGS I COULD CO TO
IMPROVE MY INTERVIEWING
SKILLS.
IF YOUR TECHNICAL SKILLS ARE
FINE AND THE JOBS ARE GOING
TO SOMEONE WHO IS MAYBE A
CLOSER BIT THE WHAT THE
COMPANY IS LOOKING FOR AND
THAT CAN BE ANYTHING FROM
PERSONALITY TO THINKING THE
THE PERSON WOULD FIT IN WITH
A PARTICULAR GROUP THAT YOU
WOULD BE WORKING WITH, ASK
THEM WHAT THEIR OPINION IS
AND OFTEN THEY WILL TELL YOU
IF YOU ASK IN A VERY OPEN
MANNER.
IF YOU APPROACH THEM AND SAY
WHY DIDN'T I GET THE JOBMENT
THEY PROBABLY WON'T ANSWER,
BUT IF YOU'RE HONESTLY
LOOKING FOR HELP THAT WOULD
BE GOOD THING TO DO.
THE OTHER ISSUE IS IF YOU'RE
LOOKING FOR WORK ONE OF THE
BEST WAYS OF LOOKING FOR
WORK IS THROUGH YOUR
NETWORK.
AND YOU HAVE TAKEN THE
COURSES, I DON'T KNOW WHERE
YOU TOOK THEM.
BUT GOING BACK TO THE
INSTITUTION WHERE YOU
ACTUALLY TOOK THE COURSES,
AND ASKING HIM IF THERE ARE
PARTICULAR ORGANIZATIONS
THAT THEY THINK MIGHT BE
WILLING HIRE SOMEONE WITH
YOUR SKILLS BECAUSE OFTEN
EDUCATIONAL INSTITUTIONS DO
KNOW OF ORGANIZATIONS THAT
THEIR STUDENT GOES TO OR
WHERE THEIR FORMER GRADUATES
HAVE GONE AND PERHAPS
THERE'S A WAY TO NETWORK
INTO AN ORGANIZATION AN
THAT'S OFTEN THE BEST WAY.

Maureen says
MAYBE JUST TO BACKTRACK.
MAYBE THAT'S THE THING YOU
ASKED TO GO TAKE A COURSE
THAT WILL UPGRADE YOUR
SKILLS.
WHERE DO YOUR GRADUATES GET
HIRED. AND DO THEY GET HIRED AND
SHOW ME WHAT YOUR TRACK
RECORD IN THAT AREA.
I FEAR THERE ARE A LOT OF
ORGANIZATIONS OUT THERE
OFFERING COURSES THAT MAY IN
THE END REALLY NOT LEAD TO
JOBS FOR PEOPLE THAT YOU
HAVE TO DO YOUR HOMEWORK ON
THIS AHEAD OF TIME BEFORE
YOU INVEST TIME AND MONEY.


Jill says VERY MUCH SO AND TO
ACTUALLY DO RESEARCH INTO
WHETHER THE SKILLS
THAT YOU'RE LEARN REGION THE
NEEDS SKILLS TODAY.
JUST BECAUSE THERE'S A
COURSE ON IT DOESN'T MEAN
THAT EMPLOYERS NEED SKILL.
AND SO, IF YOU DO YOUR
RESEARCH TO FIND OUT WHERE
PEOPLE WITH THOSE SKILLS GET
HIRED AND THEN THEY MAY BE
TALK TO EMPLOYERS AND SAY,
WHAT ARE THE MOST NEEDED
SKILLS THAT RELATE TO THE
SKILLS THAT I HAVE.
I'M GOING TO TAKE A COURSE
IN, WHATEVER IT IS THAT
YOU'RE GOING TO TAKE A
COURSE IN, ASK THAT QUESTION,
GET AN OPINION FROM TWO OR
THREE PEOPLE.

Maureen says
AND YOU KNOW SHE TALKED
ABOUT AND SO DID THE WOMEN
IN THE PIECE ABOUT SBRG TO
PAY FOR MEDICATION THINGS
LIKE THAT YOURSELF, WHEN
BENEFITS AREN'T YOU KNOW,
COMING AS PART OF JOBS
ANYMORE.
THAT'S GOTTA BE SOMETHING
THAT WORKERS NEED TO
CONCENTRATE ON IN FUTURE
NEGOTIATIONS.

Jim says
IT WOULD BE NICE IF THEY
HAD A CHANCE TO CONCENTRATE
ON IT AND NEGOTIATIONS,
REMEMBER ONLY A THIRD OF
CANADIAN WORKERS ARE IN THE
UNION AT ALL.
THAT PROPORTION IS SHRINKING
BECAUSE THE LAWS ARE SO
DIFFICULT TO ORGANIZE IN THE
UNIONS.
I THINK IT'S AN IMPORTANT
TOPIC FOR GOVERNMENT AS
WELL.
WE MOW THAT LARGER SHARE OF
TOTAL HEALTH COSTS IS NOT
STAYING IN HOSPITAL OR
SEEING THE DOCTOR, BUT IN
THE DRUGS THAT OFF BUY.
WHY ON EARTH AREN'T WE
COVERING DRUGS UNDER OUR
MEDICARE THING.
THE THE WHOLE IDEA OF
MEDICARE IS TO MAKE SURE
EVERYONE CAN AFFORD GOOD
HEALTH CARE A PHARMA CARE
MICHIGANTIVE, MAKE SURE THE
BENEFITS ARE SPREAD, WOULD
ALSO ENCOURAGE HIRING BY
FIRMS BECAUSE THAT WOULD
REDUCE THE COST OF PRIVATE
BENEFITS PLANS.
THE OTHER THOUGHT HA COMES
TO MIND, MAUREEN AND JILL,
HERE WE HAVE A DIFFERENCE
BETWEEN THE ADVICE WE HAVE
TO GIVE TO AN INDIVIDUAL AND
WHAT'S GOING TO WORK FOR THE
SYSTEM AS A WHOLE BECAUSE
YOU KNOW YOURS JILL ARE
IMPORTANT, BUT HOW DO YOU
IMPROVE YOUR INDIVIDUAL
CHANCES OF GETTING ONE OF
THOSE JOBS OUT THERE?
BUT THAT DOESN'T SOLVE THE
PROBLEM THAT WE HAVE FOR THE
ECONOMY OR THE LABOUR MARKET
AS A WHOLE.
WHICH IS THERE AREN'T ENOUGH
JOBS EVEN AT PEAK OF THE
BOOM THERE WERE NOT ENOUGH
JOBS.
STILL ALMOST A MILLION
UNEMPLOYED PEOPLE AND IF WE
IMAGINE, IMAGINE IF YOU
COULD SNAP YOUR FINGERS AND
EVERYONE IN THE COUNTRY HAD
A BUSINESS EDUCATION AND
GOOD RESUME AND GOOD
INTERVIEW SKILLS.
WELL, SOME PEOPLE ARE GOING
TO BE OUT OF LUCK UNLESS WE
MANAGE THE ECONOMY IN A WAY
TO REALLY PUSH TOWARDS
EMPLOYMENT.

Maureen says
IS THERE A COUNTRY THAT
HAS FULL EMPLOYMENT
ANYWHERE?

Jim says
WELL, OF COURSE THERE'S A
LOT OF CONTROVERSY ABOUT HOW
YOU MEASURE FULL EMPLOYMENT
BUT SURE ARE ECONOMIES THAT
HAVE A LOT MORE EMPLOYMENT
PARTICIPATION.
FEWER INVOLUNTARY UNEMPLOYED
THAN CANADA.
A LOT OF THE EUROPEAN
COUNTRIES HAVE DONE WELL AND
I THINK WITH APPROPRIATE
POLICIES, AGAIN PARTLY
TRAINING AND EDUCATION.
BUT ALSO HOW WE CONDUCT OUR
INTEREST RATES AND OUR PISCAL
POLICY AND SO ON.
WE COULD GET CLOSER TO IT.

Maureen says LET'S GO TO DAVE,
HI.

Dave says
HI, I WAS CALLING ABOUT,
I WORKED A SEASONAL JOB AND
I LEFT THERE TO GO BACK TO
SCHOOL TO GET TRAINING.
I WENT TO UNEMPLOYMENT AFTER
I CAME BACK FROM SCHOOL
BECAUSE I DIDN'T WANT TO GO
ON UNEMPLOYMENT AGAIN.
I WANT ODD CONCENTRATE ON
GETTING INTO FIELD THAT I
WAS GOING INTO.
AND EVEN WHERE EXTRA
TRAINING I PAID WITH MYSELF
THERE WAS NO HELP FROM THAT
FROM UNEMPLOYMENT.
AND I LISTEN TO PEOPLE
GETTING THE 2 PERCENT INCREASE.
I'M TAKING JOBS JUST TO GET
BY.
AND I WAS JUST WONDERING
LIKE, I WOULD LOVE TO BE IN
A POSITION TO EVEN ASK FOR
2 PERCENT INCREASE AND SO REALLY,
THE INCREASES ARE IN THE
WRONG AREAS I FEEL.
THERE'S SO MANY PEOPLE
LIVING THROUGHOUT WITH LIKE
ME, BELOW OF THETY, MY WIFE
AND I JUST SCRAMBLING TO GET
BY AND THERE'S NOT A LOT OF
HELP AND I DON'T KNOW WHERE
TO LOOK FOR THAT HELP.
I'VE TRIED AGENCIES AND
STUFF LIKE THAT, AND THERE'S
NO HELP THERE.

Maureen says OKAY, JIM, I
MEAN HE SEEMS TO BE SAYING
THAT TO GET 2 PERCENT IS NOT FAIR.

Jim says WE COULD ALL HAVE A
COMPETITION TO SEE WHO IS
UNLUCKIEST IN SOCIETY.
I DON'T THINK WE WANT TO GO
THERE, CALLER'S EXPERIENCE
WITH THE INADEQUACY WITH
FIRST ALL OF THAT RECIPE IF
YOU GET TRAINING, YOU'RE
GOING TO GET A JOB.
IT'S NOT TRUE.
BUT THERE'S NO GUARANTEE
THERE WILL BE SOMETHING FOR
YOU.
SECONDLY THE INADEQUACY OF
THE HELP AND COUNSELING HE
RECEIVED AND THAT'S PARTLY
AGAIN AS A RESULT OF THESE
HUGE CUTBACKS.
THE COUNSELING PROGRAMS AND
SO ON THAT GO ALONG WITH IT.
I THINK WE NEED BOTH TO
FAIRLY COMPENSATE OUR
TEACHERS AND NURSES AND PUT
RESOURCE INTOEING PEOPLE LIKE
DAVE GET A JOB AND THE THE
MONEY IS THERE TO DO IT .

Maureen says ANY ADVICE FOR
DAVE, JILL?

Jill says I THINK WE'RE TALKING IN
BROAD STROKES ABOUT WHAT THE
GOVERNMENT COULD DO WHEN IT
COMES DOWN TO THE THE VERY
BOTTOM LINE IS WHAT CAN I DO
FOR ME.
WHAT ARE SOME THINGS THAT I
CAN DO, AND I THINK HA DAVE
AGAIN, HOW YOU'RE LOOKING
FOR WORK YOU CAN PROBABLY
CONNECT WITH YOUR EMPLOYMENT
OFFICE IN YOUR AREA.
AND MAY GET ADVICE ON HOW
YOU'RE LOOKING FOR WORK.
THE METHODS YOU'RE USING,
THE WAY YOU'RE INTERVIEWING.
HOW YOU'RE PRESENTING
YOURSELF.
HOW YOU'RE PRESENTING YOUR
SKILLS AND AGAIN GOING BACK
TO THE THE INSTITUTION WHERE
YOU GOT YOUR EXTRA TRAINING.
AND I COMMEND YOU BECAUSE
YOU'RE IN TIGHT ECONOMIC
SITUATION FOR GOING BACK TO
SCHOOL AND GETTING MORE
SKILLS.
BUT IT IS GET RIGHT SKILLS
AND MAYBE, IF YOU AGAIN DO
SOME RESEARCH.
EVEN IF COMPANY DOESN'T HAVE
A JOB FOR YOU, YOU MIGHT GO
IN AND TALK TO SOME
COMPANIES GIVEN YOUR SKILL
BASE.
AND SAY, WHERE WOULD SKILLS
LIKE MINE BE OF USE IN A
COMPANY LIKE YOURS, NOT
WOULD OFF JOB FOR ME, BUT TO
FIND OUT WHAT THE JOBS ARE
THAT MIGHT USE THE SKILL
BASE THAT YOU HAVE AND MAYBE
USE THE SKILLS THAT YOU'VE
ACQUIRED IN A DIFFERENT WAY
THAT YOU'VE THOUGHT OF SO
FAR.

Maureen says
AND IT'S GOING TO BE SO
EASY IF WE GET INTO A
RECESSION TO START GOING YOU
KNOW, I DESERVE MORE, YOU
DON'T DESERVE 2 PERCENT, ALTHOUGH
YOU KNOW NURSES AND TEACHERS,
WE DON'T WANT THEM TO START
LEAVING IN DROVES AGAIN
EITHER.
IT'S GOING TO BE DIFFICULT.
IN THE LAST 30 SECONDS,
WHAT'S YOUR GENERAL ADVICE
FOR PEOPLE IN ONTARIO TO
WEATHER THIS.

Jim says COLLECTIVELY I HOPE
PEOPLE KEEP THEIR SPIRITS
UP.
DON'T PAY TOO MUCH ATTENTION
TO THE DOOM AND GLOOM THAT'S
OUT THERE.
IF YOU'RE IN A SITUATION
WHERE YOUR INCOME IS RISING
BECAUSE YOUR EMPLOYMENT
SITUATION AND SO ON.
GO OUT AND SPEND THAT MONEY.

Maureen says THAT HELPS GUYS
LIKE DAVE.

Jim continues
IT WILL HELP PEOPLE LIKE
DAVE, IT WILL HELP
GOVERNMENT AND THEY CAN PAY
THE NURSES AND TEACHERS A 4 PERCENT
RAISE.

Maureen says OH, IT ALL WORKS
OUT SO WELL.
THANK YOU BOTH VERY MUCH.

Both say THANK YOU, MAUREEN.

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Maureen says AND JIM STANFORD
IS AN ECONOMIST, A JILL
JUKES, WITH MURRAY AXSMITH
AND ASSOCIATES.
CHEQUE OUT THE HUMAN
RESOURCES WEB SITE AT
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COMING UP NEXT, THOM ERNST
PUTS HIS JOB ON THE LINE
WITH OSCAR PICKS.
HERE IS A CLIP FEATURING
BEST ACTOR NOMINEE.

An extract of the film gladiator plays on screen. In it, the Emperor and the Gladiator meet in front of a massive audience in the arena.

Commodus is in his thirties. He has short dark hair and is clean-shaven. He wears a classic Roman costume with a leather skirt and a heavy top, gold details in chains, medals and buttons. A large cape and a gold-leaf crown.

Commodus says
I DON'T THINK THERE COULD
HAVE BEEN A GLAD YATE TORE
MATCH YOU.
WHY THE DOESN'T HE REVEAL
HIMSELF.
YOU DO HAVE A NAME.

Maximus says MY NAME IS GLADIATOR.

Maximus is in his thirties. He has short dark hair and is clean-shaven. He wears a gladiator costume along with a silver helmet. He stands before Commodus, but turns his back at him after a few words.

Commodus seems shocked by the gladiator’s attitude.

He exclaims
HOW DARE YOU SHOW YOUR
BACK TO ME.
SLAVE!
YOU WILL REMOVE YOUR HELMET
AND TELL ME YOUR NAME.

Maximus takes a moment to reconsider Commodus request. He takes off his helmet, turns back to him and says
MY NAME IS MAXIMUS,
COMMANDER OF THE ARMIES
OF THE NORTH, GENERAL OF
LEGIONS, LOYAL SERVANT TO
THE TRUE EMPEROR, FATHER TO
A MURDERED SON, HUSBAND TO A
MURDERED WIFE, AND I WILL
HAVE MY VENGEANCE IN
THIS LIFE OR THE NEXT.

(music plays)

A new movie extract plays on screen. The caption changes to “Pollock.” In this scene, a woman walks down a dark corridor while a music plays in the back. She comes towards a man who smokes sitting down in the living room. He watches her walk.

Lee is in her mid-thirties. She has short dark hair in a bob and wears a long black dress. Jackson is in his late forties. He’s balding with few hair on the temples and is clean-shaven. He wears a dark red short-sleeve shirt and grey trousers.

Lee comes to sit on Jackson’s lap while drinking a beer.

Jackson says LET'S MAKE A BABY.

Lee says NO.

Jackson says NO?
AM I MISSING SOMETHING
HERE?
AM I MISSING SOMETHING?

Lee says WE CAN'T.

Jackson says WE CAN'T?

Lee says MY LIFE IS FULL ENOUGH
WITH YOU JACKSON.

Lee gets up and moves away. Jackson seems upset.

Jackson says WAIT MINUTE, WHERE ARE YOU
GOING, DON'T WALK AWAY FROM
ME, WE'RE HUSBAND AND WIFE.
I WANT TO HAVE A BABY, OUR
BABY.
THAT'S WHAT THE PROGRESSION
OF THINGS IS ABOUT.
THAT'S WHAT THE UNION IS
ABOUT.

Lee says THAT'S NOT WHAT THE UNION
IS ABOUT.

Jackson says WHAT ELSE IS THERE.

Lee repeats THAT'S NOT WHAT IT'S
ABOUT JOCK.

Jackson exclaims FOR ME.

Lee says THE VOWS DON'T STIPULATE
BABIES.

Jackson furiously throws the beer bottle against the music player. He frowns at her.

Jackson says I AM NOT GOING TO BRING
ANOTHER LIFE INTO THAT!

The scene ends with Jackson staring at Lee with a disapproving look.

Next, Maureen appears back in the studio.

Maureen says THIS SUNDAY OVER
A BILLION PEOPLE WILL WATCH
THE ACADEMY AWARDS ON
TELEVISION.
UNFORTUNATELY WE COULDN'T
GET OUR THOM ERNST A COVETED
SPOT ON THE RED CARPET.
WE HAVE HIM A SPOT ON THE
RED CHAIR.

The caption changes to “Thom Ernst. Movie Buff.” He appears in the studio. He’s in his mid-forties. He has short dark hair, greying on the temples. He wears glasses, a light blue shirt and dark trousers.

Thom giggles and says THIS IS GOOD ENOUGH FOR
ME.

Maureen says WHO NEEDS
HOLLYWOOD.
SO WE JUST SAW A COUPLE OF
BEST ACTOR NOMINEES.
RUSSELL CROWE AND ED HARRIS.

Thom says WHO DESERVES, TWO THINGS,
WHO DESERVES AND WHO IS
GOING TO GET IT.
AND PLEASE, YOU KNOW, DON'T
LAY YOUR BETS ON MY
SUGGESTIONS ON THIS BUT I
THINK ED HARRIS SHOULD WIN
IT FOR HIS ROLE IN ABOUT THE
ARSONIST DISINTEGRATION AND
AS YOU POINTED OUT, HIS BODY
OF WORK.
I THINK HE YOU MIGHT RECALL
MY FEELING OF GLADIATOR.
HOWEVER, THE NEW DVD HAS THE
DELETED SCENES WHICH SOMEHOW
I THOUGHT SHOULD HAVE BEEN
IN THE MOVIE AND NEEDED A
BETTER PICTURE.
I HAVE A LITTLE BIT I'M A
LITTLE MORE FAVOURABLE TO
GLADIATOR THAN I WAS.
HOWEVER I THINK RUSSELL
CROWE WILL WIN.

Maureen says FOR BEST ACTOR?

Thom says IT'S BETWEEN HIM AND TOM
HANKS.
I JUST DID NOT THINK
CASTAWAY WAS THAT GREAT OF A
PERFORMANCE.
HE WAS ALONE, YES, TALKED TO
A VOLLEYBALL AND DID THAT
QUITE WELL, BUT I JUST DID
NOT THINK IT WAS AS GOOD AS
THE OTHERS.

Maureen says ANY ACTORS
MISSING FROM THE LIST.

Thom says THE BEST ACTOR THIS YEAR
IS MICHAEL DOUGLAS FROM
WONDER BOYS AND HE'S NOWHERE
IN SIGHT.

Maureen says
QUITE A BUZZ AROUND JULIA
ROBERTS.
ALMOST EVERYONE IS PICKING
HER FOR THE BEST ACTRESS IN
“ERIN BROCKOVICH.”

Thom says
THAT'S A SAFE BET.
I'M NOT OPPOSED TO THAT
BECAUSE I THINK SHE'S FUN.
SHE'S GOT GOT A BAD KNOCK
AROUND HOLLYWOOD FOR HER
TYPE OF ROLES AND I THINK IN
THIS IN “ERIN BROCKOVICH.”
SHE REALLY HAS FOUND HERSELF
OR THE ROLE HAS FOUND HER,
SHE FITS IT PERFECTLY, IT
WOULDN'T BE A REAL UPSET TO
ME ANYWAYS IF SHE WON THAT.

Maureen says
SHE'S FOUND WATCH.
LET'S WATCH A CLIP OF JULIA
ROBERTS IN “ERIN
BROCKOVICH.”

A new clip plays a scene of the film. The caption changes to “Erin Brockovich.”

Ed meets Erin in an office. He’s in his fifties. He has short curly white hair and is clean-shaven. He wears dark trousers, a white shirt and a contrasting tie.

Erin is next to him standing up. She looks at him calmly. Erin’s in her mid-thirties. She has long wavy blond hair down to the shoulders and wears big rounded earrings, a red and blue dress with a prominent cleavage and a pale green cardigan on top.

Ed says ERIN, HOW IS IT GOING?

Erin says YOU NEVER CALL MED BACK.
I LEFT MESSAGES.

Ed says YOU DID, WELL, I DIDN'T
KNOW THAT.
DONALD SEEMS TO THINK --

Erin interrupts him and says
THERE ARE TWO THINGS THAT
AGGRAVATE ME, BEING IGNORED
AND BEING LIED TO.

Ed says I NEVER LIED.

Erin continues YOU TOLD ME THINGS WOULD
BE FINE.
THEY'RE NOT.
I TRUSTED YOU.

Ed says SORRY ABOUT THAT --

As they argue, other employees get out of their workstations to see what’s happening.

Erin says I DON'T NEED PITY, I NEED
A PAYCHEQUE AND I'VE LOOKED.
BUT WHEN YOU SPENT THE PAST
SIX YEARS RAISING BABIES
IT'S HARD TO GET SOMEONE TO
GIVE YOU A JOB THAT PAYS
WORTH A DAMN.

Ed’s secretary looks at Erin all worried. She stares from the distance with squinting eyes.

Erin confronts her and continues
GETTING EVERY WORD
OF THIS DOWN HONEY, OR
AM I TALKING TOO FAST?

The clip ends.

Maureen smiles and says
I LIKE HER IN THAT ROLE.
THIS IS NOT HER FIRST
NOMINATION.
DIDN'T SHE GET NOMINATED FOR
PRETTY WOMAN.

Thom says
I WOULD HAVE TO LOOK BACK
ON THAT, BUT YES, THAT'S
PROBABLY TRUE.
AND I THINK IT WOULD BE VERY
NICE, I THINK IT WOULD BE
ALMOST LIKE A FEEL-GOOD WIN
IF SHE DOES ALTHOUGH JOAN
ALLAN IN THE CONTENDER IS
VERY, VERY GOOD.

Maureen says
SHE IS IN THAT MOVIE,
OKAY.
SUPPORTING ACTOR
CATEGORIES, WHAT ABOUT JEFF
BRIDGES IS NOMINATED.

Thom says
IN THE CONTENDER SAME
MOVIE, I REMEMBER WHEN I
WATCHED THAT THAT I WANTED
TO VOTE FOR JEFF BRIDGES SO
CONVINCING, HE WAS SO
LIKABLE.
I REALLY LIKE JEFF BRIDGES
IN THAT ROLE.
I KNOW HE DOESN'T HAVE A
CHANCE IN IT AND HE'S NOT MY
PICK EITHER FOR BEST ACTOR
BECAUSE I THINK BENICIO DEL
TORO, WORKED REALLY HARD AND
PULLED IN AMAZING
PERFORMANCES, PARTICULARLY
IN TRAFFIC.

Maureen says SO YOU THINK HE
SHOULD WIN, YOU THINK HE WILL
WIN.

Thom says YES.

Maureen says SOMETIMES THE
BEST ACT, SUPPORTING ACTOR
CATEGORIES ARE MORE
INTERESTING SOMETIMES THAN
THE BEST ACTOR.

Thom says
ALBERT FINNEY, WE JUST
SAW PLAYING OFF OF JULIA
ROBERTS THERE.
JOAQUIN PHOENIX, I THOUGHT
NO, HE'S NOT STRONG ENOUGH
BUT IF YOU LOOK AT DELETED
SCENES THAT YOU CAN SEE NOW
HE REALLY DOES DO WONDERFUL
STUFF.
UNFORTUNATELY IT DIDN'T MAKE
IT TO THE SCREEN.

Maureen says THE IF WE LEARN
ANYTHING WE LEARN TO LOOK AT
THE DELETED SCENES ON THE
DVD VERSION.
WHY DON'T WE WATCH A CLIP
FROM TRAFFIC WITH I THINK
BENICIO IN IT.

A new clip plays on screen. The caption changes to “Traffic.”

A first shot shows the image of the tall, modern and shiny building on a sunny day. In a room, A man in his thirties with a moustache interrogates Javier while being watched by a group of other men. Javier’s in his thirties. He has short dark hair and is clean-shaven. He wears a red shirt, blue jeans and a heavy chain around the neck.

The Man with the Moustache says
YOU TOLD PEOPLE THE TRUTH.

Javier says YES.

The Man with the Moustache says
SOLID.
THAT'S GOOD.

A man from the back says NO.

Javier says YES, I HAVE A CONTACT IN
12 HOURS.

The Man with the Moustache says
THAT'S GOOD TO KNOW.

He stands up and hands a large paper to one sitting on a couch.

Javier says
SO NOW THAT YOU HAVE WHAT
YOU WANT, LET'S TALK ABOUT
HOW I GET WHAT I WANT.

A man in his early thirties approaches Javier while saying
OH, YOU DON'T HAVE TO
WORRY ABOUT THAT.
YOU'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE ANY
PROBLEMS THERE.

The Man from the Back says
YEAH, BUT, FIRST LET'S
TALK ABOUT WHAT PRECAUTIONS
YOU'RE TAKING TO PROTECT
YOURSELF.

Javier lights up a cigarette and says
YOU WORRY ABOUT GETTING
ME WHAT I WANT, I WORRY
ABOUT MYSELF.

The Man in the Early Thirties says
OYE, JAVIER,
YOU SHOULD FEEL GOOD
ABOUT THIS.

Javier says I FEEL LIKE A TRAITOR.

The clip ends.

Maureen says NOT SO MUCH DIALOGUE,
IT'S THE MANNERISMS, FACIAL
EXPRESSION.

Thom says THE LITTLE THINGS HE DOES,
THE EXPRESSIONS, HIS BODY
LANGUAGE.
WAY HE RESPONDS TO OTHER
ACTORS IN THAT FILM.
IN THAT SCENE ALONE, THAT WE
JUST SAW, A TERRIFIC
PERFORMANCE AND CONSTANTLY
GOOD PERFORMANCE MANY
WHATEVER HE APPEARS IN.

Maureen says BEST SUPPORTING
ACTRESS, WHO DO YOU LIKE.

Thom says WHO DO I LIKE IN THIS, I
THINK MY PICK FOR THIS ONE
WILL BE FRANCES McDERMOTT AS
WHO I LIKE.
WHO I THINK WILL
BE HER CO STAR KATE HUDSON.
NOW AS IT WAS POINTED NOW
TALKING TO OTHER PEOPLE, I
WAS PRETTY SOLD ON FRANCIS
McDO NOT WHO TURNS IN A
STELLAR PERFORMANCE IN
ALMOST FAMOUS AND IT'S FUN
IT'S INTELLIGENT, IT'S
MOVING AND PROGRESSIVE, IT'S
A STORY EVERYTHING A
SUPPORTING ACTOR IS SUPPOSED
TO DO AND SHE DECISION IT
WELL.

Maureen says
AND SHE PLAYS THE MOTHER
OF THE YOUNG BOY.

Thom continues
AND GOES OFF, AND WHAT A
POSITION SHE'S
OVERPROTECTIVE MOTHER YET
WITH A HEART.
SHE COULD EASILY HAVE GONE
TO OVER THE TOP AND DONE
ALMOST A VILLAIN IN THIS.
TRYING TO PREVENT HER
CHILDREN FROM GROWING BUT
YOU UNDERSTAND EVERYTHING
SHE'S DOING AND HOW HARD SHE
FIGHTS TO TRY TO MAKE HER
CHILD'S LIFE, YOU KNOW
EVERYTHING THEY CAN BE.
SHE'S A SMART WOMAN AND IT
COMES ACROSS.

Maureen says
WHY HER OVER KATE HUTSON.

Thom says
I THINK THE PERFORMANCE
IS STRONG.
THERE'S SO MANY NUANCES TO
THAT THAT REALLY WORK, AND I
THINK BECAUSE SHE COULD HAVE
GONE THE SIMPLE WAY WHICH IS
I'M GOING TO BE IF UPTIGHT
MOTHER, SHE CHOSE NOT TO DO
THAT.
WHAT ACTS ACROSS IS A FULL
CHARACTER.
A FULL CHARACTER THAT YOU
CAN'T HELP BUT LOVE, DESPITE
ALL HER INEFFICIENCIES.

Maureen says
TWO ACTRESSES FROM THE
SAME MOVIE, BOTH NOMINATED.
I THINK WE HAVE A CLIP FROM
ALMOST FAMOUS.
NOT SURE WHO IS IN IT.
LET'S SEE.

The screen shows a new scene extracted from a film. The caption changes to “Almost famous.”

Music plays. William is on a payphone when Russell comes to him and takes the phone out of his hands.

William is a teenager with short brown hair, clean-shaven, who wears a pale shirt over a dark green T-shirt.

He says RUSSELL.

Russell says NO.

William begs RUSSELL, RUSSELL.

Russell is in his twenties. He has long brown straight hair and a moustache. He wears a brown shirt half buttoned. XX tries to get the phone back, but Russell takes over.

He says
HEY MOM!
I PLAY GUITAR IN STILLWATER.
HOW DOES IT FEEL TO BE THE
MOTHER OF THE GREATEST ROCK
JOURNALIST WE'VE MET?

On the other side, a woman in her mid-forties hold a phone. She looks annoyed. She has short brown hair down to the shoulders and wears a floral orange shirt.

As Russell speaks, she remains silent. Music, people talking and girls yelling hear in the back.

Russell insists
HELLO?
HELLO?
LOOK YOU'VE GOT A GREAT KID
HERE.
THERE'S NOTHING TO WORRY
ABOUT.
WE'RE TAKING GOOD CARE OF
HIM AND YOU SHOULD -- YOU
KNOW YOU SHOULD COME TO THE
SHOW SOME TIME.

The Mother says
HEY, LISTEN TO ME, MISTER,
I'M ONTO YOU.
OF COURSE YOU CAN LIKE HIM.

Russell says WELL, YEAH.

The Mother says
HE WORSHIPS YOU PEOPLE.
AND THAT'S FINE BY YOU AS
LONG AS HE HELPS MAKE YOU
RICH.

Russell says RICH?
I DON'T THINK SO.

The Mother says
LISTEN TO ME, HE'S A
SMART GOOD-HEARTED
15-YEAR-OLD KID, WITH
INFINITE POTENTIAL.
THIS IS NOT SOME, I KNOW AND
I SHOULDN'T HAVE LET HIM GO.
HE'S NOT WORRY FOR YOUR
WORLD AND DIMINISHED BRAIN
CELLS YOU THROW AWAY LIKE
CONFETTI.
AM I SPEAKING TO YOU
CLEARLY?

Russell says YES, MA'AM.

The Mother continues
IF YOU BREAK HIS SPIRIT,
HARM HIM IN ANY WAY, KEEP
HIM FROM HIS CHOICE PROBLEM
FEGS WHICH IS LAW, SOMETHING
YOU MAY NOT VALUE, BUT I DO,
YOU WILL MEET THE VOICE AT
THE OTHER END OF THE
TELEPHONE AND IT WILL NOT BE
PRETTY.
DO WE UNDERSTAND EACH OTHER?

Russell says YES, MA'AM.

The Mother says
I DIDN'T ASK FOR THIS
ROLE.
BUT I'LL PLAY IT.

The clip ends.

Maureen says SHE TOLD HIM.

Thom says OH, BOY.
SHE'S SO GOOD MANY THIS
MOVIE AND SHE'S SO WORTH --
SHE'S ONE OF THE REASONS TO
SEE ALMOST FAMOUS.
THE MOVIE IS A GREAT FILM.
BUT, I JUST LOVE HER
PERFORMANCE.
I THINK KATE HUDSON WILL WIN
BECAUSE SHE'S YOUNG, AND AS
SOMEBODY POINTED OUT, THE
ACADEMY LOVES UP AND COMINGS.
AND SHE ALSO HAS A GOOD HER
REDITARY, GOLDIE HAWN.

Maureen says OKAY CHOICE FOR
BEST DIRECT SNEER THIS IS A
TOUGH ONE.

Thom says I THINK THERE ARE TWO
DIRECTORS THAT BOTH DESERVE
TO WIN.
I THINK ANG LEE.
FOR “CROUCHING TIGER, HIDDEN
DRAGON” AND HE WILL WIN, I
SUSPECT.

Maureen says THAT'S WHO I PICKED IN
THE POLL.

Thom says
OKAY, I THINK HE WILL WIN,
AND I THINK STEVEN SOLBERG
DESERVES TO WIN BUT I THINK
HIS VOTES ARE GOING TO BE
DIVIDED.
IT'S RARE THAT A DIRECTOR
HAS TWO.

Maureen says IT'S HAPPENED
BEFORE BUT NOT IN A LONG,
LONG TIME.
YEAH, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE
HIM WIN FOR TRAFFIC, BUT I
THINK ANG LEE IS GOING TO
WIN.

Thom says
EITHER IF EITHER OF THOSE
MEN WIN I'LL BE A HAPPY MAN
BUT I DO BELIEVE ANG LEE IS
WHERE THE VOTE ALSO GO.

Maureen says BEST PICTURE MOM
NIECE.
WE HAVEN'T SEEN ANY CLIPS,
WE DID SEE SOME OF
GLADIATOR.
THEY'RE ALL MANY THERE BUT
LET'S TAKE A LOOK AT IT A
COMPELLATION OF CLIPS AND
THEN WE'LL TALK ABOUT IT.

A new clip rolls. The caption changes to “Chocolat.”

At a chocolate store, Vianne serves a customer. She’s in her forties. She has short dark hair neatly cut and wears a shocking red blouse. She gets a pack of chocolate drops and puts it over the counter.

Then, she says
AND THESE UNREFINED COCOA
FROM GUATEMALA TO AWANE THE
PASSION.

The customer is Yvette. She’s in her forties. She has short wavy brown hair down to the shoulders and wears a heavy black coat and a blue striped grey scarf.

Yvette says YOU'VE OBVIOUSLY MET MY
HUSBAND.

Vianne says YOU'VE OBVIOUSLY NEVER
TRIED THESE.

(music plays)

A man in his late forties grabs a pack of chocolate drops. He has short dark hair, balding, and a goatee. He wears a white shirt, brown V-neck sweater and a dark grey coat. He’ pours the chocolate drops directly in his mouth.

Meanwhile, Yvette cleans the toilet while bending down on the floor. He comes from behind, looking all flushed and excited. She turns to him with a weird look in the face.

Next, Yvette goes back to the store.

She says
I'LL HAVE MORE OF THOSE.

Vianne says SURE, HOW MANY DO YOU
WANT.

Yvette says HOW MANY HAVE YOU GOT?

The clip ends.

A new clip starts. The caption changes to “Crouching tiger, hidden dragon.”

A scene shows a group of warriors in horses who silently watches a large army come their way from a mountaintop. After a few moments of contemplation, the leader unfolds his sword, looks back at his soldiers and screams with the armed hand fully up.

The leader of the opposition suddenly stops the marching troops with a hand gesture.

He says IT’S DARK CLOUD!
DARK CLOUD IS COMING!

In the middle of the desert, the two armies fight. Zhang Ziyi watches through a small window. She’s in her twenties. Her hair is dark and long.

A voice from the back orders
LOWER THE SHADE, DON’T
LET THEM SEE YOU!

The combat continues with more and more defeated men on the floor.

Dark Cloud says DON’T TOUCH
THE WOMEN!

As he moves back and forth saving women from the enemy’s attack, he comes next to Zhang Ziyi who looks at him astonished. He winks at her, takes a small object out of her hand and leaves.

The clip ends.

Maureen says OKAY, THAT WAS
“CROUCHING TIGER, HIDDEN
DRAGON” AND BEFORE THAT
“CHOCOLAT” TWO FILMS I
HAVEN'T SEEN YET.
SORRY.

Thom says DON'T MISS “CROUCHING
TIGER, HIDDEN DRAGON,” I
JUST HI IT'S A WONDERFUL.

Maureen says ONE WITH THE
COMPLICATED NAME.
DOES IT HAVE A CHANCE TO WIN
BEST PICTURE GIVEN IT'S A
FOREIGN LANGUAGE FILM AS
WELL?

Thom says
I THINK IT'S GOING TO WIN
FOREIGN LANGUAGE.
I THINK THAT'S WHERE IT
WOULD GET ITS AWARD AND ALSO
WITH ANG LEE.
AND THERE WE GO, IT DESERVES
ALL OF THAT.
I THINK IT'S BEST PICTURE
THIS YEAR.

Maureen says YOU DO.

Thom continues
REMEMBER HOW BIG I WAS ON
TRAFFIC.
AND I STILL LOVE TRAFFIC,
BUT THAT WAS BEFORE I SAW
“CROUCHING TIGER, HIDDEN
DRAGON.”

Maureen says WHAT ABOUT
“CHOCOLAT.”
THE OTHER ONE.

Thom says I'M BAFFLED.
THERE'S ALWAYS ONE THAT
BAFFLES ME WHY IT'S ON LIST
AND THIS IS THE ONE THAT
BAFFLES ME.
IT'S INTERESTING THAT IT'S
REALLY IT IS GETTING MIXED
REVIEWS.
IN NORTH AMERICA.
BUT, IN EUROPE IT'S JUST,
THEY ARE THEY CAN'T FIGURE
IT OUT.
THE EUROPEAN CRITICS ARE
JUST THEY SAY WHY HOLLYWOOD
HAS TO DO THIS EVERY YEAR
THROW IN ONE OF THESE FEEL
GOOD PSEUDO ARTSY FILMS.

Maureen says
IT'S A MIRAMAX FILM WHICH
IS PROBABLY WHY THEY'RE
NOMINATED.

Thom says THEY LOBBY VERY HARD.

Maureen says
A LOT OF PEOPLE THINK
“GLADIATOR” WILL WIN BECAUSE
HOLLYWOOD IS GRATEFUL THAT
HE CAME ALONG AND MADE A BIG
BUDGET PILL M THAT MADE THE
CHARIOTS LOOK GOOD AGAIN.

Thom says
WE ALL REMEMBER BEN HER
AND LOVED THAT BUT LET'S NOT
FORGET THAT STANLEY KUBRICK
MADE SPORT CUSS AT THE AGE
OF 3 2, HE WAS TALKING LIKE
HE HAD THE OSCAR SEWN UP AND
LOTS OF NOMINATIONS AND HE
DIDN'T WIN.
AND THAT MAY HAPPEN AGAIN.
HOWEVER, SAYING THAT, I DO
BELIEVE “GLADIATOR” WILL DO
IT.

Maureen says
YOU THINK “GLADIATOR.”
WILL WIN.

Thom says
I THINK “GLADIATOR” WILL
WIN, I THINK IT'S GOT LOTS
OF NOMINATIONS, I THINK ARE
ALL EVERYBODY IS BEHIND IT.
IT'S A BIG EPIC, CHANCES FOR
LOTS OF STARS AND EVERYBODY
TO WORK ON IT.
AND IT'S NOT WHAT I WANT TO
SEE WITH.
BUT I THINK IT WILL.

Maureen smiles and says
A LOT OF MIDDLE AGE WOMEN
WILL BE HAPPY.

Thom says THEY'RE MISTAKING
THE BREAST PLATE FOR THE
REAL MAN.

Maureen says YOU AND I WILL
TALK ABOUT THIS ON MONDAY.
ENJOY OSCARS.

A slate pops up that reads “More to life. www.tvo.org/moretolife.”

Maureen continues
THOM ERNST IS OUR RESIDENT
MOVIE REVIEWER, WILL BE BACK
NEXT WEEK WITH HIS LARGE
SCREEN AND SMALL SCREEN PICK
YOU CAN FIND MOVIE LINKS AT
OUR WEB SITE AT
WWW.TVO.ORG/MORETOLIFE.
TOMORROW A REPEAT OF OUR
ANTIQUES AND COLLECTIBLE
SHOWS AT 1:00.
AND BACK WITH NORTH
AMERICA'S FAVOURITE
PARENTING EXPERT.
WE'LL SEE YOU ON MONDAY FOR
THAT AT 1:00 AND HAVE A
GREAT WEEKEND.

(music plays)

The end credit rolls.

Host and Producer, Maureen Taylor.

Executive Producer, Patricia Ellingson.

Senior Producer, Cathy Perry.

Producers, Sandra Gionas, Janice Felsky, Becky Fong, Zeelaf Majeed and Sally Ritchie.

Director, Vivien Kingsland.


Production Manager, Barbara Clements.

A production of TVOntario. The Ontario Educational Communications Authority, 2001.

A closing slate reads “The advice given in the preceding program is of a general nature only. Viewers should consult their own medical professional for medical advice specific to their circumstances.”

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