Transcript: Living Workplace, Trivia Quiz, Movies, Kids Crafts | Mar 16, 2001

(music plays)
In animation, the title appears inside the shape of a house: “More to Money.”
The opening sequence shows a wooden table with a small lit candle as several words fly by: Investments, careers, finances, pensions, money.
Fast clips show different sets of hands performing activities on the table such as pulling petals from a daisy, drawing a big red heart, tuning a violin, flipping through the pages of a book, cooking, and pouring a glass of red wine.
In animation, the title appears inside the shape of a house: “More to life.”

Maureen Taylor sits in a red armchair in a studio with yellow walls. Behind her a placard reads “More to Life.”

Maureen is in her late thirties, with wavy red hair in a bob. She’s wearing a a stripped blue shirt.
She says HI I'M MAUREEN
TAYLOR.
TODAY WE'LL BE -- WILL BE A
BUSY, BUSY DAY ON “MORE TO
LIFE.”
WE KNOW, MARCH BREAK HAS
ALREADY BEEN TIRING, SO
LATER WE'LL HELP YOU DREAM
ABOUT THE PERFECT WORKPLACE.
A PLACE THAT MAKES YOU FEEL
VALUED.
HONEST, THEY EXIST.
AND OF COURSE WE'LL HAVE OUR
LATEST GARBAGE CRAFT AND
MOVIES WITH THOM ERNST, BUT
FIRST A BIT OF TIME TRAVEL.
WE ALL REMEMBER WHAT WE WERE
DOING WHEN J.F.K. WAS SHOT,
BUT EXACTLY WHAT TIME OF DAY
WAS IT?
DALE PATTERSON CAN TELL US.

Dale appears on screen. He's in his late fifties, clean-shaven with gray hair. He's wearing a green and red stripped shirt.

Maureen continues HE'S THE AUTHOR OF WHAT TIME
OF DAY WAS THAT?
HISTORY BY THE MINUTE.

Dale's book appears on screen.

Maureen continues AND WE WANT TO SEE HOW WELL
DALE CAN PUNCH HIS
HISTORICAL TIMECLOCK.
SO CALL IN AND YOU MAY WIN A
COPY OF DALE'S BOOK.
COME UP WITH A SIGNIFICANT
HISTORICAL EVENT, AND WE'LL
SEE IF DALE CAN NAIL DOWN
THE MOMENT IT OCCURRED.
SO HERE ARE THE NUMBERS.

A caption appears on screen showing two phone numbers.

Maureen continues IN TORONTO DIAL 416-484-2727.
CALL LONG DISTANCE TO 1-888-411-1234.
AND YOU CAN e-mail US AT
moretolife@tvo.org
REMEMBER, A
SIGNIFICANT HISTORICAL
EVENT.
DALE, HI.

Dale says PLEASED TO BE HERE.

Maureen says WHY DID YOU
WRITE THIS BOOK?

The caption changes to “Dale Patterson. 'What Time of Day Was That?”

Dale says I ALWAYS
HAD AN INTEREST IN TRIVIA
AND SPECIFICALLYLY THE
J.F.K. ASSASSINATION IN
1963.
ONE DAY I DECIDED TO MAKE A
LIST OF ALL THE TIMES
ASSOCIATED WITH THE
ASSASINATION, AND THAT WAS
RECOVER INTERESTING SO I
MOVED ONTO THE TITANIC AND
DID A LIST OF TIMES
ASSOCIATED WITH THE TITANIC.

Maureen says YOU MEAN THE
TIME IT LEFT DOCK, THE
TIME --

Dale says THE TIME
IT HIT THE ICEBERG.

Maureen says SUBMERGED.

Dale says AND THE
TIME CARPATHEA CAME BY AND
PICKED UP THE PASSENGERS, SO
ON AND SO FORTH.
SO I THOUGHT MAYBE IT MIGHT
WORK FOR A WHOLE BOOK SO
WHAT I DID, I MADE LACE OF A
THOUSAND DIFFERENT TIMES IN
HISTORY.
MAJOR SOMETIMES.
DISASTER, SPORTS,
ENTERTAINMENT, ARTS,
MEDICINE, WHATEVER.
AND I DECIDED IF I GOT A
THOUSAND, I'D WRITE A BOOK.
IT TOOK ME SIX MONTHS.
I DIDN'T EVEN HAVE A
COMPUTER.
AID NOTEBOOK AND A PEN,
BASICALLY.
I WENT TO LIBRARIES AND WENT
TO, YOU KNOW, JUST MAGAZINES
AND EVERYWHERE THAT I COULD
FIND TIMES, BOOK, RIGHT?

Maureen says RIGHT.

Dale says AND TOOK ME ABOUT SIX
MONTHS, AND I HAD CLOSE TO A
THOUSAND AT THAT POINT.
AND I FIGURED WELL, I'M
GOING START WRITING IT.
SO I STARTED WRITING IT.
ACTUALLY I GOT A COMPUTER AT
THAT POINT.

Maureen says GOOD FOR YOU!
TO KEEP TRACK OF THIS.

Dale says WELL, A LOT EASIER
WRITING ON A COMPUTER THAN A
TYPE WRITER SO ANYWAY THAT'S
HOW IT STARTED.
IT WAS 1989, 8:15 a.m. ON
DECEMBER 28th, 1989 IS WHEN
I FIRST PUT PEN IT PAPER,
YOU KNOW, WRITING DOWN THE
TIMES AND RESEARCHING IT.

Maureen says 8:15?

Dale says A.M.

Maureen says a.m., IN THE
MORNING.
YOU GOT UP AND THAT WAS THE
TIME.

Dale says THAT WAS IT, DECEMBER
28th, 1989, MID-1990, I
ACTUALLY STARTED WRIGHT THE
VARIOUS ENTRIES.

Maureen says WHAT DID
PUBLISHERS SAY TO YOU ABOUT
THE IDEA?

Dale says WELL, IT TOOK ME ABOUT
THREE, FOUR YEARS TO WRITE
IT OFF AND ON, BECAUSE YOU
CAN'T WRITE IT CONTINUOUSLY.

Maureen says YEAH, YOU WORKED,
TOO.

Dale says YEAH.
AND SO I WROTE THE WHOLE
BOOK FIRST.
NORMALLY YOU DON'T DO IT
THAT WAY.
NORMALLY YOU WRITE A CHAPTER
AND GIVE IT TO A PUBLISHER.
I DID -- I DID IT THE
REVERSE WAY.
I WROTE THE WHOLE THING AND
THEN AFTER I WROTE IT I
FIGURED WELL, THIS IS --
NEXT STEP IS TO GET A
PUBLISHER, OKAY?
WELL, I THOUGHT IT WOULD BE,
YOU KNOW, REAL EASY, BUT
IT'S NOT EASY TO GET IT
PUBLISHED, OKAY?
SO I WENT TO A FEW
PUBLISHERS AND THEY WERE
POLITELY NOT INTERESTED SO
AT THAT POINT, IT WAS 1993
AND WE HAD OUR FIRST CHILD.
WE HAD A BABY IN '93 AND AT
THAT POINT I GOT RATHER BUSY
WITH THAT, AS YOU CAN
UNDERSTAND.

Maureen says SURE.
WHAT TIME WAS THE BABY BORN?

Dale says 1:40 p.m.,
AUGUST 7th, 1993.

Maureen says THANK YOU.
OKAY, CONTINUE.

Dale says ANYWAY SO
WHAT HAPPENED THAT THE POINT,
I DECIDED TO PUT IT ON HOLD
FOR A WHILE, AND JUST STAYED
ON HOLD FOR A NUMBER OF
YEARS UNTIL 1999.
AND THEN I GOT AN E-MAIL
FROM A PUBLISHER IN CALGARY,
WHOSE NAME WAS FRAZER SELEE,
FIFTH HOUSE, PUBLICATIONS,
AND HE HAD SEEN A WEBSITE
THAT I'D DONE ON CURLING
HISTORY.

Maureen says CURLING HISTORY?

Dale says YES, CURLING HISTORY.
IT'S A LONG STORY.
ANYWAY, SO HE SENT ME AN
E-MAIL AND SAID “DO YOU WANT
TO WRITE A BOOK ON CURLING
HISTORY?”
AND I SAID, “SURE.”
AND SO I MET WITH HIM THE
NEXT WEEK, AND WE DISCUSSED
THAT.

Maureen says YES.

Dale says AND AT
THE SAME TIME I SHOWED HIM
MY MANUSCRIPT.

Maureen says SURE!
YOU HAVE TO --

Dale says OH, BY
THE WAY, I'VE GOT THIS
MANUSCRIPT, RIGHT?
AND I SHOWED IT TO HIM, AND
HE SAID, “WELL, WE MIGHT BE
INTERESTED IN THIS, SO I'M
GOING TO SEND IT TO FIFTH
HENRY, WHICH IS A TORONTO
MARKHAM BASED COMPANY, AND
THEY WERE INTERESTED.
AND I HAD A CONTRACT SIGNED
ON JULY 24th, 1999 AT
4 p.m..

Maureen says WHAT TIME --
OKAY.
ALL RIGHT, SO I HAVEN'T HAD
TIME TO FIGURE THIS OUT
MYSELF, ALTHOUGH 2:30 IS A
POPULAR TIME.
WHAT'S THE MOST POPULAR TIME
FOR BIG EVENTS TO HAPPEN?
DO YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING?
AS I WENT THROUGH IT, THE
BIGGEST CHAPTER I BELIEVE
WAS THE 9:00 a.m. CHAPTER.
AND THE 5:00 p.m. WAS PRETTY
BIG.

Maureen says GIVE ME AN
EXAMPLE OF SOMETHING THAT
HAPPENED AT 9:00 a.m.

Dale says THE
DECORATION OF INDEPENDENCE,
I BELIEVE WAS SIGNED AT 9:00
a.m.

Maureen looks through his book and says OH, ROCK HUDSON
DIED.

Dale says ROCK HUDSON
DIED.
IN THAT HOUR KAREN CARPENTER
DIED.
9:52, I BELIEVE.

Maureen says WE'VE GOT
RICHARD NIXON ARRIVING IN
PEKING AT 9:00 a.m. FOR HIS
HISTORIC VISIT TO CHINA.
OKAY, BUT YOU KNOW, I
QUESTION SOME OF THE ONES,
LIKE Mt. VESUVIU SCOMPMD
POMPEII, YOU KNOW, THOSE --
THEY HAPPENED A LONG TIME
AGO, DID PEOPLE ACTUALLY
RECORD THE TIME?

Dale says WELL THEY
MUST HAVE BECAUSE THEY'RE IN
HISTORY BOOKS.
POST OF MY TIMES I -- MOST
OF MY TIMES I RESEARCHED
VERY CAREFULLY, AND IN MANY
CASES FOUND MORE THAN ONE
SOURCE, ESPECIALLY FOR THE
OLDER EVENTS.
SO --

Maureen says AND WHAT DID
THEY USE TO TELL TIME BACK
THEN?

Dale says I ASSUME
IT WAS A SUN DIAL.

Maureen says WOULD EVEN GIVE
THEM THE MINUTE?
DOWN TO THE MINUTE?

Dale says OF COURSE
AS TIME HAS GONE ON, IT'S
BEEN MORE ACCURATE.
FOR LIKE NASSAU, FOR LIKE
THE SPACE TIME, THEY'RE DOWN
TO THE SECOND.
I WENT TO THE N.A.S.A.
WEBSITE TO CONFIRM THOSE
TIMES AND MOST OF THEM ARE
LIKE -- MOOS OF THE MODERN
TIMES ARE QUITE EASY TO FIND
BUT NOT NECESSARILY.
LIKE SPORTS TIMES WERE VERY
HARD TO FIND.
SURPRISINGLY.

Maureen says WHAT DO YOU
MEAN?
GIVE ME AN EXAMPLE?

Dale says WELL
TIMES OF SPORTS EVENTS.
FOR EXAMPLE ONE TIME I HAD A
LOT OF TROUBLE WITH WAS 1960
BILL MAZEROWSKI HIT A
HOMERUN THAT WON THE WORLD
SERIES FOR THE PITTSBURGH
PIRATES, AND THAT WAS THE
FIRST TIME THE WORLD SERIES
HAD EVER ENDED ON A HOME
ONE.
FIRST TIME.
SECOND TIME WAS JOE CARKNER
'93.
AND I LOOKED ALL OVER FOR
THAT.
“NEW YORK TIMES,” YOU KNOW,
EVERYWHERE, RIGHT?

Maureen says NOBODY LOOKED AT
THEIR WATCH.

Dale says BUT WHAT HAPPENED WAS
THAT I SAW A PIKT OF BILL
MAZEROWSKI HITTING THE HOME
SCOMPRUN IN THE OUTFIELD WAS
THE PICTURE OF THE CLOCK,
3:36 p.m..
SO SOME WERE TOUGHER TO GET.

Maureen says ALL RIGHT, DALE
PATTERSON WENT OUT AND GOT
THEM, THOUGH.
AT LEAST A THOUSAND IN HERE?

Dale says YUP,
1,028.

Maureen says “WHAT TIME OF
DAY WAS THAT” IS THE BOOK.
YOU HAVE TO COME UP WITH A
SIGNIFICANT HISTORICAL EVENT
AND WE'RE GOING TO SEE IF
DALE KNOWS THE HOUR AND THE
MINUTE THAT IT HAPPENED.
NOT THE DATE NECESSARILY.
SO GIVE US A CALL IN
TORONTO.

Maureen says OKAY, JOANNE IS
IN HUTTONVILLE.
JOANNE?

Joanne says YES, HI.
PRINCESS DIANA'S DEATH?

Dale says THAT
WOULD HAVE BEEN AT 12:25
a.m.
IT WAS ON THE 31st OF AUGUST,
1997.
AND WHERE WAS I WHEN IT
HAPPENED?
WELL, I JUST FINISHED A GOLF
GAME AND WE LOOKED OVER THE
TV AND THERE WAS BREAKING
NEWS ON CNN, AND THERE IT
WAS.
JUST ANNOUNCED THAT HER CAR
HAD CRASHED AND HER PARTNER
FAYED HAD DIED.
AND THAT OF COURSE, YOU
COULD TELL THIS WAS GOING TO
BE A BIG STORY.

Maureen says AND 12:25 WAS
THE MOMENT OF IMPACT YOU
THINK?

Dale says WELL, THE MOMENT OF
IMPACT, THE MOMENT THE CRASH
OCCURRED.
SHE DIED TECHNICALLY LATER.

Maureen says FOUR HOURS LATER
OR SOMETHING TECHNICALLY.

Dale says YEAH,
YEAH.

Maureen says AND THAT WAS
ABSOLUTELY A HUGE EVENT.

Dale says I THINK
THAT'S ONE EVENT -- EVERY
GENERATION HAS ITS EVENT.
NOW MY GENERATION, I'M 48.

Maureen says SO IT WAS J.F.K..

Dale says AND I REMEMBER JFK.
MY FATHER'S GENERATION, THE
HISTORIC TIME THEN WAS
REALLY RHEN ROOSEVELT DIED
IN 1945, OKAY?

Maureen says IS YOUR DAD
MARIANNE OR CANADIAN?

Dale says HE'S
CANADIAN BUT THAT WAS A
MAJOR EVENT AT THE TIME.
BUT FOR THIS GENERATION,
IT'S BEEN LIKE THE
CHALLENGER, PERHAPS, 1986,
AND ALSO THE -- DIANA'S
DEATH IN 1997.

Maureen says DON'T TELL US
MINUTES YET, PEOPLE MAY TO
WANT ASK ABOUT THOSE.
CONGRATULATIONS -- THANKS
FOR CALLING IN DIANE.
HE KNEW THAT ONE.
LET'S GO TO DAVE IN
UDOORA.
HI DAVE.

Dave says HI.
I'D LIKE TO KNOW WHEN JULIUS
CAESAR WAS STABBED.

Maureen says OH, ON THE IDES
OF MARCH.

Dale says WELL THAT
WAS AT 11:00 a.m. AND I GOT
THAT TIME OUT OF A PEOPLE'S
ALMANAC, WHICH IS A VERY
GOOD BOOK BY DAVID
WALACINSKY. YES, STABBED BY
BRUTUS, ET TU BRUTE.

Maureen says I WAS JUST
READING AN INTERESTING THING
THAT JULIUS CAESAR'S AUTOPSY
IS CONSIDERED ONE OF THE
EARLIEST SORT OF RECORDED
AUTOPSIES IN HISTORY.

Dale says YES, YES.

Maureen says 16 STAB WOUNDS
OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT?

Dale says YES, A
WHOLE BUNCH, AND IT'S
ACTUALLY, I BELIEVE, THE
EARLIEST TIME IN MY BOOK,
THE EARLIEST, LIKE, BY DATE.

Maureen says BY DATE.
DO YOU RERT YEAR?

Dale says I THINK
IT WAS 46 B.C.

Maureen says AND THE IDES OF
MARCH WERE -- WAS IT
YESTERDAY?
I'M LOSING TRAFFIC THE WEEK.

Dale says IDES OF
MARCH -- OF COURSE STOM
St. PATRICK'S DAY, AS AND
YOU KNOW, I'M WEARING A BIT
OF GREEN TODAY.
BUT I HAVE A St. PATRICK'S
DAY ENTRY IN THERE IN FACT
IT'S A 12 NOORNGS THE FIRST
St. PATRICK'S DAY PARADE IN
MONTREAL, IT WAS 12 NOON,
NOT SURE OF THE YEAR, IT WAS
THE 1800s.

Maureen says YOU DON'T KNOW
WHAT TIME St. PATRICK DROVE
THE SNAKES OUT OF IRELAND?

Dale says I'M
AFRAID I DON'T.

Maureen says LET'S SEE WHAT
ANDRE HAS.
HI ANDRE?
HI ANDRE?
IN CHATHAM?
MAYBE IT'S ANDREA?
ARE YOU THERE?
NO.
MAYBE IS THERE AN E-MAIL
HERE, KATHY, WE CAN GO TO?

She looks at her computer screen and says OKAY, WELL I DON'T HAVE THAT
ONE.
FIRST OF ALL -- OH, I LOVE
YOUR SHOW.
WHAT TIME OF DAY WAS IT WHEN
THE FIRST HUMAN STEPPED ON
THE MOON.
THIS IS FROM ANDREW IN PARIS.

Dale says OKAY THAT
WAS 1969, JULY 20th.
THAT'S ANOTHER LANDMARK
THING.
AND THAT WAS AT 10:56 p.m.
EASTERN TIME, AND --

Maureen says 10:56 p.m..

Dale says EASTERN
TIME.

Maureen says AND ARE WE
TALKING NEIL ARMSTRONG HERE?

Dale says NEIL
ARMSTRONG.

Maureen says OKAY.

Dale says AND THE
EAGLE LANDED ON THE MOON AT
144:17 p.m..
THEY SAT IN THEIR CAPSULE
THERE FOR A GOOD -- WELL HOW
MANY HOURS IS THAT?
SIX AND A HALF, ALMOST SEVEN
HOURS.
NEIL ARMSTRONG CLAIMS THAT
HE THOUGHT OF HIS FAMOUS
SAYING WHILE HE WAS IN THERE,
WAITING TO GO ON THE MOON.
HE DIDN'T THINK OF IT BEFORE,
OR THE SPIN DOCTORS AT
N.A.S.A. DIDN'T PLAN IT
BEFORE.

Maureen says AND THIS IS --
ONE SMALL STEP FOR...

Dale says BUT
THERE'S A CONTROVERSY OVER
THAT.
HE SAID, IF YOU LISTEN TO
THE TAPE, THAT'S ONE SMALL
STEP FOR MAN, ONE GIANT LEAP
FOR MANKIND.
BUT HE SAYS HE MEANT TO SAY
ONE GIANT STEP FOR A MAN,
AND THERE'S BEEN CONTROVERSY
OVER THAT FOR YEARS, RIGHT?
BUT I THINK WHAT REALLY
HAPPENED IS HE FORGOT TO SAY
THE WORD “A” HE ACTUALLY
MESSED IT UP.
TO MAKE IT GRAMMATICLY
CORRECT, IT HAS TO HAVE “A”
IN IT.

Maureen says SO YOU THINK IT
WAS WRITTEN FOR HIM BY
N.A.S.A. AND SPEECH WRITERS.

Dale says HE CLAIMS THAT HE MADE IT
UP.
SO HE'S NOT HERE TO DEFEND
HIMSELF, AND I THINK --

Maureen says WAS THAT
TELEVISED LIVE?
DID PEOPLE STAY UP LATE --

Dale says IT WAS
TELEVISED LIVE.
I REMEMBER WATCHING IT ON A
BLACK AND WHITE TV IN 1969.

Maureen says YEAH, I THINK I
DO, TOO.

Dale says MANY DO.
IT WAS A TREMENDOUS MOMENT,
A MOMENT THAT TEN YEARS
EARLIER PEOPLE THOUGHT WAS
FANTASY, IT NEVER HAPPENED,
EH?

Maureen says THAT'S RIGHT.

Dale says BUT IT
HAPPENED HAPPENED.
WE LANDED ON THE MOON SIX
TIMES UNTIL 1972 AND HAVEN'T
BEEN BACK SIX.

Maureen says NO, AND NOW A
CANADIAN'S NOT GOING TO DO A
MOON WALK BUT A SPACE WALK.
CHRIS HADFIELD'S GOING TO DO
THAT.

Dale says THE SPACE
STATION I THINK'S
SIGNIFICANT TOO AND IF WE
EVER GO TO MARS THAT'LL BE
ABSOLUTELY HUGE.

Maureen says YES, IT WILL BE.
THANK YOU ANDREW.
KENNETH IS IN PATTERSON, HI
KENNETH.

Kenneth HI, HOW ARE YOU
DOING?

Maureen says GOOD, THANKS.

Kenneth says MY QUESTION, I
GUESS IS WHAT TIME WAS IT
WHEN O.J. WAS AKWIT OF THE
CHARGES LAID AGAINST HIM,
O.J. SIMPSON.

Dale says IN THIS
BOOK I USE LOCAL TIME, OKAY?

Maureen says YEAH, I MEANT TO
ASK YOU ABOUT THAT.

Dale says TO
ESTABLISH A CONSISTENCY AS
FOR THE TIMES.

Maureen says SO WHEN DIANA
WAS KILLED THAT WAS THE TIME
IN PARIS.

Dale says YES, SO I USE LOCAL TIME
FOR EVERYTHING, EXCEPT FOR
SPACE EXPLOITS WHERE I USE
EASTERN TIME AND FOR SOVIET
SPACE EXPLOITS I USE MOSCOW
TIME.
AND TO GET BACK TO THE
QUESTION, O.J., 10:07 p.m.
PACIFIC TIME.

Maureen says WHEN HE WAS
AQUITED.

Dale says YEAH,
YEAH WHEN THEY SAID HE WAS
NOT GUILTY, WHICH IS
1:07 p.m. OUR TIME.
I REMEMBER DRIVING HOME FROM
WORK AND LISTENING TO IT AND
I COULDN'T BELIEVE IT.
MANY PEOPLE SURPRISED BY
THAT.

Maureen says THE OTHER
SIGNIFICANT EVENT IN THAT
WAS THE WHITE BRONCO CHASE.
DO YOU HAVE THAT IN THERE,
WHEN THAT STARTED?

Dale says I ONLY
PUT IN ONE ENTRY FOR O.J.
BUT I REMEMBER THE CHASE
STARTED BETWEEN 9 p.m. AND
10 p.m..
I WATCHED IT ON TV LIKE
ALMOST EVERYBODY ELSE IN THE
WESTERN WORLD.
IT WAS ON THE LARRY KING
SHOW, AS A MATTER OF FACT.
THAT'LL BE A GOOD TIME TO
GET FOR THE SECOND EDITION.

Maureen says WHAT TIME DID
THE CHASE ACTUALLY START SO
AGAIN HE WAS ACQUITTED AT
WHAT TIME?

Dale says IT WAS AT
10:07 a.m. PACIFIC TIME.

Maureen says VERY GOOD!
THIS IS AMAZING!
YOU CAN'T BE STUMPED.
OWEN IS IN MISSISSAUGA.
HI OWEN.

Owen says YES, HELLO.

Maureen says HI.

Owen THE QUESTION I HAVE IS
NOT QUITE AS EASY AS WHEN
DID THE ORIGINAL BLUENOSE
SCHOONER WIN ITS LAST RACE.

Maureen says YOU MEAN THE
MINUTE IT --

Owen says WELL, WHATEVER HE
WISHES.

Dale says ACTUALLY
YOU GOT ME ON THAT.
I DON'T KNOW.

Maureen says DO YOU KNOW
OWEN?

Owen says NO, I DON'T.
BUT IT'S VERY SIGNIFICANT,
IT'S BEEN ON THE DIME FOR
OVER HALF A CENTURY.

Maureen says THE BLUE NOSE
HAS.

Dale says IT IS
SIGNIFICANT AND I COULD NOT
FIND THAT.
I COULD NOT FIND THAT TIME.
I WAS STUMPED ON THAT ONE.
BECAUSE SOMETIMES I COULDN'T
FIND -- LIKE ONE TIME I
COULDN'T FIND, AND IT TOOK
ME, GEEZ, ELEVEN YEARS OF
SEARCHING, WAS THE TIME THAT
KING TUT'S TOMB WAS OPENED.
I BELIEVE THAT WAS 1922 OR
1923, AND I HAVE LOOKED
EVERYWHERE FOR THAT.
AND I'VE NEVER --

Maureen says IS NO ONE ALIVE
WHO WAS THERE?

Dale says WELL A
LOT OF THEM ARE GONE BY NOW,
BUT I SIMPLY COULDN'T FIND
THAT OUT, AND THAT'S ONE
THING THAT I HOPE TO LOOK UP
AT SOME STAGE.
BUT I DON'T KNOW, MOST BOOKS
SAY MID-AFTERNOON.
THERE ISN'T ANYTHING SPECIAL
WHERE -- I BELIEVE THEY SAID
4:30 p.m., BUT I DIDN'T
TRUST IT SO I JUST DIDN'T GO
WITH IT.

Maureen says BACK TO THE BLUE
NOSE, I DON'T KNOW IF A LOT
OF THE YOUNGER KIDS REALIZE
THE ONE ON THE DIME SUNK,
RIGHT?
IT'S GONE.
AND THE ONE THAT YOU SEE
WHEN GO TO LUNENBERG --
ISN'T IT LUNENBERG?
I DON'T KNOW.
I WAS THERE BUT I CAN'T
REMEMBER EXACTLY WHERE IT
WAS, THAT'S A REPLICA.

Dale says I AGREE
WITH THE CALLER.
IT'S VERY SIGNIFICANT, BUT I
WAS ONE OF THE ONES -- IT
WAS ONE OF THE ONES I SIMPLY
COULD NOT FIND.
AND CERTAINLY IT'S ON MY
SHORTLIST OF ONES TO LOOK
UP.

Maureen says SOMEBODY'S GOT A
FAMILY DIARY OR SOMETHING
LIKE THAT THAT IT'S RECORDED,
YOU'D LIKE TO HEAR ABOUT IT.

Dale says
DEFINITELY.
ABSOLUTELY, YEAH.

Maureen says THANKS, OWEN.
AN E-MAIL FROM JACKIE.

She looks at the computer screen and says OOH, THE GUN POWDER PLOT.
AT WHAT TIME WAS GUY, IS IT
GUY FAWKES ARRESTED.
DO YOU KNOW THAT?

Dale says OKAY, THAT WAS AT
11:55 p.m., AND IT'S
ACTUALLY ONE OF THE LAST
ENTRIES IN THE BOOK.

Maureen says OH, BECAUSE THE
BOOK STARTS AT 12:00 a.m.?

Dale says MIDNIGHT,
12:00 a.m. AND IT'S ARRANGED
CHRONOLOGICALLY BY TIME SO
THE FIRST CHAPTER'S MIDNIGHT,
12:59 AND THE LAST CHAPTER
WAS 11:00 p.m. UNTIL
11:59 --

Maureen looks at the book and says says YEAH, 11:55 p.m. GUY
FAWKSES WAS ARRESTED IN THE
CELLARS OF THE LORDS OF
CHAMBERS FOR ATTEMPTING TO
BLOW UP THE ENGLISH
PARLIAMENT.
DO YOU DRIVE YOUR FAMILY AND
FRIENDS IN NUTS.

Dale says I'M
INTERESTED IN ALL TRIVIA,
NOT JUST TIME.
I DRIVE PEOPLE CRAZY WITHOUT
THIS.

Maureen laughs and says
OKAY, VERY GOOD, THANK YOU
FOR THAT QUESTION.
AMANDA IS IN NORTH BAY.
HI AMANDA.

Amanda says HI.

Maureen says HI.
WHAT'S YOUR EVENT?

Amanda says THE HALIFAX
EXPLOSION.

Dale says HALIFAX
EXPLOSION.
WELL OKAY THAT WAS -- LET'S
ME JUST GET MY THINKING CAP
ON HERE.
THAT WAS, I BELIEVE -- AND
YOU CAN CHECK THIS, BECAUSE
I READ IT THIS MORNING.
THAT WAS AT 9:00 a.m. THAT
WOULD HAVE BEEN ATLANTIC
TIME, AND THAT WAS, I
BELIEVE, THE WORST PEACE
TIME DISASTER IN CANADIAN
HISTORY, AS YOU'LL SEE IN
THERE.
MAA THERE'S A LOT OF 9:00
a.m. ONES, YOU'RE RIGHT.
YEAH, 9:00 a.m., THURSDAY
DECEMBER 6th, 1917.

Dale says YEAH,
YEAH, 1917, AND IT WAS JUST
AT THE TIME JUST A TERRIBLE
TRAGEDY.
MANY PEOPLE DIED AND MANY --

Maureen says 2,000 DIED,
6,000 INJURED.

Dale says AND I'M
REALLY GLAD I FOUND THAT
ONE.
THAT WAS NOT TOO HARD TO
FIND, ACTUALLY.

Maureen says THAT WAS NOT TOO
HARD.

Dale says BECAUSE
YOU GET INTO A MAJOR EVENT
LIKE THAT THE MAJOR EVENTS,
THERE'S SO MUCH WRITTEN
ABOUT THEM, YOU'RE GOING TO
FIND THINGS ON THEM, RIGHT?
BUT IT'S THE LESSER EVENTS.
LIKE I HAVE THE TIME OF THE
FIRST CELL PHONE CALL IN
THERE.
THE FIRST CELL PHONE CALL.
AND HOW DO WE FIND THAT OUT,
YOU ASK?

Maureen says I DON'T KNOW.

Dale says WELL I
E-MAILED THE FELLOW WHO MADE
THE FIRST CELL PHONE CALL.
I SAW HIS NAME?
A STORY AND I FOUND OUT
WHERE HE WORKED, A COMPANY
WHERE HE WORKED.
HE'S ACTUALLY PRESIDENT OF A
COMPANY AND I E-MAILED HIM
AND ASKED HIM, I SAID, “I
HEARD YOU MADE THE FIRST
CELL PHONE CALL IN 1973.”
AND I SAID, “DO YOU REMEMBER,
SINCE YOU WERE THERE, AT
WHAT TIME OF DAY YOU MADE
THAT CALL?
BECAUSE I'M WRITING A BOOK.”
AND HE SAID BEING “YES, IT
WAS AT 10 a.m. AND I WAS
STANDING ON A NEW YORK
STREET AND I HAD THIS TWO
AND A HALF POUND BOX OF
WIRES AND EVERYTHING.”

Maureen says THAT'S WHAT A
CELL PHONE WAS BACK THEN?

Dale says YEAH, AND
IT HAD TO BE PHONED BACK TO
HIS LAB TO TESTED.
IT WAS THE FIRST TIME IT HAD
BEEN TESTED OUTSIDE THE LAP.

Maureen says WHAT ABOUT
GRAHAM BELL'S FIRST PHONE
CALL?

Dale says I
COULDN'T FIND OUT THAT OUT
HOWEVER I FOUND OUT
SOMETHING VERY INTERESTING.
6:25 p.m., THIS WAS THE WEEK
HE DIED, THE BELL SYSTEM
SHUT DOWN FOR ONE MINUTE IN
HIS HONOUR OF HIS DEATH.
AND YOU'LL FIND THAT IN
THERE.
6:25 p.m..

Maureen says ONE MINUTE OF
SILENCE.

Dale says AND THAT COULD NOT HAPPEN
THESE DAYS.
YOU COULD NOT SHUT DOWN THE
PHONE SYSTEM FOR A MINUTE.
BUT IN HONOUR OF HIM THEY
SHUT DOWN THE SYSTEM FOR ONE
MINUTE.

Maureen says INTERESTING.

Dale says THIS
WOULD HAVE BEEN -- I THINK
IT WAS IN LIKE THE 30s WHEN
HE DIED.
I'M NOT SURE.
YOU HAVE TO CHECK THAT, BUT
AT THAT TIME IT WAS STILL
POSSIBLE.
BUT COULD YOU IMAGINE NOW
DAYS.

Maureen says NO, I CAN'T.

Dale says THE
GUINESS BOOK, IT'S NOT --
LIKE IN THIS BOOK, IT'S NOT
JUST A LIST OF TIMES THERE'S
ALL KINDS OF TRIVIA IN
THERE.

Maureen says YEAH, LOT OF
TRIVIA.

Dale says NOT JUST
THE STANDARD STUFF, LIKE --
SORT OF LIKE LESSER-KNOWN
THINGS, BUT LIKE OBSCURE, IF
YOU WILL.
YOU KNOW?

Maureen says RIGHT.
YES, THAT'S WHAT DALE'S GOOD
AT, THE OBSCURE.
LET'S TAKE ONE MORE, OKAY?

Dale says OKAY.

Maureen says MARCI IS IN
HAYLEYBURE.
HI MARCI.

Marci says HI.
MY QUESTION WOULD BE IF YOU
COULD TELL ME WHAT TIME JACK
THE RIPPER COMMITTED HIS
FIRST MURDER.

Dale says UM... I'M
AFRAID I DON'T HAVE THAT
ONE.

Maureen says DO YOU HAVE ANY
JACK THE RIPPER IN HERE?

Dale says NO, I
DON'T.
AND WE CAN'T FIND ANYTHING
THAT WE COULD REALLY, I
COULD PIN SOMETHING DOWN.

Maureen says I DOUBT THEY
WOULD KNOW, RIGHT?
BACK THEN?

Dale says THEY
DON'T EVEN KNOW WHO DID IT,
YOU SEE?
AND ALL OF THE TIMES WERE
LIKE BETWEEN 2 AND 4 a.m.,
OR LIKE BETWEEN -- THAT'S A
PROBLEM I RAN INTO A LOT,
WAS THAT ON SOME ISSUES, IT
WAS LIKE BETWEEN 2 AND 4
a.m. OR BETWEEN 3 AND 4 p.m.,
OR WHATEVER.
IT WAS NOT LIKE PINNED DOWN
TO LIKE A TIME, RIGHT?

Maureen says EVEN TODAY, A
CORONER CAN TELL YOU THE
APPROXIMATE TIME DEATH BUT
THEY CAN'T NAIL IT DOWN TO
THE --

Dale says BUT BACK
THEN, I DON'T KNOW, I GUESS
IT WASN'T DONE AS OFTEN.

Maureen says YEAH.

Dale says AND IT
WASN'T A SCIENCE LIKE IT IS
TODAY.

Maureen says YEAH.

Dale says THAT'S
ANOTHER ONE I'D LIKE TO NAIL
DOWN.
AND I LOOKED FOR IT --

Maureen says WE'D JUST LIKE
KNOW WHO JACK THE RIPPER
WAS.

Dale says IF I
COULD FIND THAT OUTSIDE BE
RICH.
WE BOTH WOULD.

Maureen says WE'LL GO TO
BRIAN FOR OUR LAST ONE.
HI BRIAN.

Brian says GOOD AFTERNOON.

Maureen says WHAT'S YOUR
EVENT?

Brian says MY QUESTION IS A
SHIP CALLED THE EMPRESS OF
IRELAND WAS SUNK IN THE
St. LAWRENCE WITH GREAT LOSS
OF LIFE.

Maureen says YEAH.

Brian says COULD YOU GIVE ME
THE TIME OF DAY?

Dale says OKAY,
THAT WAS AT 1:55 a.m.
YOU CAN LOOK THAT UP IF YOU
WANT.

Maureen says a.m.?

Dale says a.m., I
THINK IT'S 1:55, AND THAT
WAS ONE OF THE GREAT
TRAGEDIES IN CANADA.

Maureen says YEAH, THAT WAS
TERRIBLE.

Dale says RAN
AGROUND IN THE St. LAWRENCE.

Maureen says DOES a.m. COME
BEFORE p.m.?

Dale says YES, IT
DOES.

Maureen says SEE THE BOOK IS
LAID OUT BY TIME, PEOPLE NOT
BY DATE OR EVEN EVENT OR
ANYTHING.
ANYWAY, GO ON, THE
EMPRESS -- BIGGER LOSS OF
LIFE THAN THE TITANIC?
IS THAT TRUE?

Dale says I CAN'T
REMEMBER THAT BUT I DO
REMEMBER A LOT OF THINGS
ABOUT HISTORY IN THIS, AND
ONE THING I FOUND VERY
INTERESTING, RESEARCHING
THIS BOOK, WAS EVENTS THAT
TOOK PLACE, THE SAME WEEK AS
ANOTHER FAMOUS EVENT.
NOW THE WEEK THE TITANIC
SANK, THAT WAS OBVIOUSLY THE
BIG STORY.

Maureen says SURE.

Dale says BUT
SOMETHING ELSE SIGNIFICANT
HAPPENED ON THAT WEEK.
A WOMAN, HARRIET QUINBY,
BECAME THE FIRST WOMAN TO
FLY ACROSS THE ATLANTIC
OCEAN -- I MEAN, FLY ACROSS
THE ENGLISH CHANNEL.

Maureen says TO FLY ACROSS
THE ENGLISH CHANNEL.

Dale says THAT WAS
HISTORIC BUT OVERSHADOWED BY
THIS HUGE STORY ABOUT THE
“TITANIC,” RIGHT?
THE SAME WEEK THAT THE CIVIL
WAR ENDED AND THE SAME WEEK
THAT ABE LINCOLN WAS
ASSASSINATED, THE SULTAN IN
A SANK.
THAT WAS AMERICA'S WORST
PEACETIME MARITIME DISASTER.
AND IT WAS OVERSHADOWED BY,
YOU KNOW, OTHER EVENTS IN
HISTORY.

Maureen says AND YOU'RE
ABSOLUTELY RIGHT ABOUT THE
EMPRESS OF IRELAND.
1:55 a.m. ON FRIDAY, MAY
29th, 1914.
THE LOSS OF LIFE WAS 1477
PEOPLE.

Dale says WHICH WAS
A LITTLE LESS THAN THE
“TITANIC.”
TITANIC WAS 15 AND A BIT.
BUT IT WAS VERY, VERY HIGH,
OF COURSE.

Maureen says CANADA'S WORST
PEACETIME MARITIME DISASTER.
WELL, WE'RE OUT OF TIME TO
TAKE EVENTS, BUT I JUST
THOUGHT I'D... DOES IT
MATTER WHAT TIME OF DAY
THINGS HAPPEN, DALE?

Dale says I THINK
IT DOES, BECAUSE FOR EXAMPLE
LET'S SEE, LET'S SAY WHEN
THE U.S. BOMBED IRAQ IN
1991.
NOW THEY ANNOUNCED IT AT
7:09 p.m., BUT THAT MEN THE
ATTACK TOOK PLACE AT AROUND
3:00 a.m.
THAT'S SIGNIFICANT IN THE
FACT THAT THEY CHOSE THAT
TIME BECAUSE IT WAS THE BEST
TIME TO ATTACK, WHEN PEOPLE
SLEEPING AND THAT.
AND IT WAS STRATEGICLY
PLANNED.
OTHER ANNOUNCE WANTS IN THE
BOOK, BUSINESS ANNOUNCEMENTS
ARE TIMED IN THE MORNING, SO
GET MAXIMUM PLAY ON NETWORK
TV AND IN THE NEWSPAPERS AND
THAT.

Maureen says AND EVEN DIANA'S
DEATH, IF SHE'D GONE OUT FOR
THAT RIDE IN THE CAR IN THE
MORNING, YOU KNOW, AT 10
a.m., MAYBE THE DRIVER
WOULDN'T HAVE BEEN DRUNK AT
THAT TIME.

Dale says WELL, A
LOT OF THINGS HAPPEN THAT
ARE JUST LIKE CIRCUMSTANCE.
TIMING IS EVERYTHING.

Maureen says TIMING IS
EVERYTHING.
WELL IT WAS GREAT TO HAVE
YOU DO THIS THANKS VERY
MUCH.
I'M VERY IMPRESSED BY YOUR
KNOWLEDGE.

Dale says OKAY,
THANK YOU.

Maureen says DALE PATTERSON
IS AUTHOR OF “WHAT TIME OF
DAY WAS THAT?”
HISTORY BY THE MINUTE.
IT'S PUBLISHED BY FITS HENRY
AND WHITESIDE AND WE'LL BE
SENDING COPIES OUT TO ANDREW
IN PARIS, JOANNE IN
HUTTONVILLE, MARCI IN
HAYLEYBURE, JACKIE WHO CAME
IN VIA E-MAIL AND DAVE IN
EUDORA.
CONGRATULATIONS.
COMING UP, WILL THE RAT RACE
OF THE FUTURE BE KINDER AND
GENTLER?
THE WORK VERSUS HOME
BALANCING ACT LEAVES MANY US
FEELING WEIGHED DOWN SO
WOULDN'T IT BE GREAT IF
SOMEONE ELSE RAN YOUR
ERRANDS OR DID YOUR
SHOPPING?
IF YOU COULD GET A MASSAGE
OR A MANICURE ON YOUR
LUNCHHOUR AT THE OFFICE?
FOR THE 450 EMPLOYEES OF MDS
SCIEX, THIS, TOO IS
REALITY.
“MORE TO LIFE” RECENTLY
EXPERIENCED A DAY IN THE
LIFE OF A CORPORATION WITH A
CONCIERGE.

A clip plays. A woman in her thirties with short brown hair sits behind a desk and takes notes. She's wearing a blue shirt and black pants.

She says HERE AT MDS SCI-EX I AM
THE CONCIERGE.
IT'S MY OWN COMPANY.

A caption reads “Morgan Marlowe. Corporate concierge.”

A woman in her sixties approaches Morgan and says HI, COULD YOU RUN AN
ERRAND FOR ME THIS
AFTERNOON?

Morgan says SURE.

The other woman says I NEED CHILDREN'S TYLENOL
COLD, LIQUID FORMULA.

Music plays. Fast action shots show Morgan shopping in the supermarket.

She says WE ARE HERE TO HELP THEM
MANAGE THEIR TIME WITH THE
LOCATELOAD BALANCE.
QUESTION TAKE CARE OF THEIR
DAILY ERRANDS, EVENT PLAN,
ANYTHING THEY NEED DONE TO
MAKE THEIR LIFE EASIER.

Suzanne is in her thirties with short brown hair. She's wearing a black blazer over a white shirt. The caption changes to “Suzanne Wolfe. Vice President, MDS Sciex.”

She says WE HAVE THE BALANCED
LIVING PROGRAMME, BECAUSE WE
BELIEVE THAT IT'S IMPORTANT
TO HELP PEOPLE HAVE FULL AND
RICHER LIVES.
AND THE FOLKS WE HIRE HERE
ARE EXTREMELY TALENTED
PEOPLE.
AND VERY COMMITTED TO
GETTING THEIR WORK DONE SO
FROM TIME TO TIME THEY MAKE
THE DECISION TO SPEND
PERHAPS A BIT MORE TIME AT
WORK THAN THEY MIGHT
NORMALLY.
AND SO WHAT WE HOPE TO DO BY
PROVIDING THESE SERVICES IS
THAT WHEN THEY GET HOME WITH
THEIR FAMILIES, THEY ARE NOT
BURDEN BID ALL OF THE
BUSINESS OF RUNNING THEIR
LIVES.

A sign posted on a billboard reads “Nutrition Information Session. Organic foods – an advantage to your health?”

She continues THE BALANCED LIVING
PROGRAMME HAS THREE
COMPONENTS, THE FIRST BEING
HEALTH EDUCATION SO WE OFFER
A NUMBER OF SESSIONS WHERE
WE HAVE HEALTHCARE PROVIDERS
COME IN AND TALK ABOUT
DISEASE PREVENTION.

Some woman work out in a gym.

She continues THE SECOND ONE IS A FITNESS
CENTRE.
AND THAT'S A STATE OF THE
ART GYM WITH TRAINED OUTSIDE
FOLKS WHO COME IN AND DO
SESSIONS.
THE CORPORATE CONCIERGE
SERVICE CAME ABOUT A LITTLE
BIT FROM MY OWN EXPERIENCE,
HAVING HAD A CHILD FOUR
YEARS AGO AND COMING BACK TO
THE WORKPLACE, I REALLY
FOUND IT IMPOSSIBLE TO FIT
EVERYTHING INTO THE 24 HOUR
DAY.
AND WHEN TALKING TO OTHER
FOLKS IN THE ORGANIZATION,
THEY WERE EXPERIENCING SO
SAME CHALLENGES.

In the office break room, Morgan talks to a woman in her thirties with brown hair.

Morgan says SO I BELIEVE YOU ORDER
THE BEEF STROGANOFF, RIGHT?

The woman replies says YES.
YES THAT WOULD BE GREAT.

Morgan opens the fridge and hands her a packaged meal.

The woman says OH, YOU'VE SAVED ME SO
MUCH TIME TONIGHT.
THANK YOU.

Morgan says WE STARTED THE MAGIC
MEALS HERE FOR BUSY FAMILIES
SO THEY CAN GO HOME AND HAVE
THE MEAL PUT ON THE TABLE.
NO WORK, FUSS, THEY ORDER A
MEAL FROM ME AND PICK IT UP
AND TAKE IT HOME.
THE ERRANDS ARE PEOPLE'S
FAVOURITE THING BECAUSE I
CAN SAVE SOMEONE TWO HOURS
OFF THEIR DAY SO THEY CAN
SPEND MORE TIME AT HOME.
WE DO THEIR DRY CLEANING, I
SHOP AT COSTCO ALL THE TIME,
THEIR GROCERY SHOPPING,
DINNER RESERVATIONS,
DISCOUNTED TICKETS FOR
THEATRE, SHOE REPAIR,
ANYTHING ANYONE NEEDS DONE.

Suzanne says WHEN ORGANIZATIONS LOOK
AT PUTTING PROGRAMMES IN
PLACE, THEY ALWAYS HAVE THE
RETURN ON INVESTMENT
ANALYSIS, BUT THIS IS
SOMETHING THAT'S NOT ABOUT
ADDING TO THE BOTTOM LINE AS
MUCH AS IT IS ABOUT HAVING
SATISFIED EMPLOYEES.
IF FOLKS ARE HAPPY COMING
HERE, AND IF WE CAN DO SOME
SMALL PIECE TO HELP THEM
MANAGE THEIR LIVES, THEN
THEY'LL STAY WITH US.
AND FOR THOSE WHO ARE OUT IN
THE MARKETPLACE LOOKING FOR
JOBS TO COME TO THEN WE WILL
BE FIRST IN THEIR MIND AS AN
ORGANIZATION THAT THEY'D
LIKE TO WORK FOR.
SO THE VALUE TO PSIEX IS
REALLY SATISFIED WORKPLACE.


Morgan says ONE OF THE THINGS WE
FOCUS ON IS TRYING TO BRING
AS MANY SERVICES DIRECTLY TO
THE EMPLOYEE AS POSSIBLE.
SO THAT WAY AVOIDING THAT
THEY ACTUALLY HAVE TO
LEAVE -- ONCE THEY LEAVE
HERE, GO SOMEWHERE ELSE
INSTEAD OF STRAIGHT HOME.
SO THAT WAY IF, FOR EXAMPLE,
THERE'S AN HE IS AT THE TIME
TELEVISION WHO -- A WOMAN
WHO NEEDS HER NAILS DONE AT
THEST AT THE TIME TELEVISION,
SHE CAN HAVE IT DONE AT
LUNCH.
SHE CAN JUST GO RIGHT HOIM.
SO WE TRY AND BRING AS MANY
SERVICES AS MASSAGE THERAPY,
ON SITE OPT TELEVISION AS
WELL AS ESTHETITIAN AND
ALTERATIONS, CAR DETAILING
AND I'M TRYING TO COME UP
WITH SOME NEW ONCE.

Suzanne says MY DAD TURNED 70 THIS
YEAR AND MORGAN HELPED ME
RESEARCH NIAGARA-ON-THE-LAKE
RETREAT PACKAGES TO SEND HIM
TO FOR HIS BIRTHDAY.
MY SON TURNED FOUR AND SHE
FOUND ME A SINGING COWBOY
FOR HIS BIRTHDAY PARTY, AND
SHE'S HELPED WITH SOME GIFT
PURCHASES.
SO IT'S BEEN VERY HELPFUL.

Morgan says THEY SEND ME OUT TO THE
STORE AND I BRING IT BACK
ALL WRAPPED.
NEXT I KNOW THAT A LOT OF
PEOPLE, CARDS ARE ALWAYS A
LAST-MINUTE THING THAT YOU
NEED SO I'VE GOT A CARD RACK
HERE SO THAT YOU CAN ALWAYS
JUST PICK UP THAT
LAST-MINUTE THING ON YOUR
WAY HOME, YOU DON'T NEED TO
STOP AT THE CARD STORE AND

She spins around a rack filled with cards.

She continues I'VE GOT A GREAT SELECTION
OF THANK YOUS, SYMPATHY,
BIRTHDAY, AND CHRISTMAS
CARDS.
AS WELL THE LAST-MINUTE
LITTLE GIFT OR GOING AWAY
PRESENT FOR SOMEBODY IN THE
OFFICE, SO I'VE GOT LITTLE
PICTURE FRAMES AND PHOTO
ALBUMS, AND THEN WE HAVE
LITTLE TREATS THAT PEOPLE
CAN TAKE LAST MINUTE LITTLE
GIFTS FOR PEOPLE.

Fast action clips show Morgan shopping.

She says I LOVE MY JOB.
IT'S SO MUCH FUN.
EVERYDAY IS DIFFERENT.
EVERYTHING IS EXCITING.
AND INTERESTING.
ONCE I'M DONE HERE, I DON'T
WANT TO GO SHOPPING AGAIN.
I TEND TO FIND THAT MY OWN
THINGS DON'T GET DONE AS
MUCH AS I'D LIKE THEM TO I
NEED A CONCIERGE FOR MYSELF.

Back in the studio, Maureen says YEAH, WE ALL DO.
LOOKS LIKE A GREAT PLACE TO
WORK AND I GUESS THAT'S THE
IDEA.
FUTURIST ANN COOMBS SAYS
MORE AND MORE COMPANIES ARE
SOON GOING TO BE TAKING
BETTER CARE OF THEIR
EMPLOYEES.

Ann's in her sixties with a black bob. She wears a light gray suit.

Maureen continues THEY WON'T HAVE A CHOICE.
HER LATEST BOOK IS CALLED
“THE LIVING WORKPLACE.”
SOUL, SPIRIT AND SUCCESS IN

Ann's book appears on screen.

Maureen continues THE 21st CENTURY.
WELCOME TO THE PROGRAMME.
HI.
YOUR BASIC PREM SMIS THAT
COMPANIES ARE GOING TO HAVE
TO FULFILL MORE THAN JUST
PEOPLE'S SORT OF MUNDANE AND
FINANCIAL NEEDS OR ELSE.
SO WHAT IS THE LIVING SBORK
PLACE?

The caption changes to “Ann Coombs. 'The Living Workplace.'.”

She says THE LIVING WORKPLACE IS
GOING TO BE CONSISTING OF
PEOPLE WHO WILL BE BRINGING
THEIR SOULS AND SPIRIT TO
WORK.
SO INSTEAD OF PARKING IT
OUTSIDE AT THE DOOR, WAITING
FOR THE NEXT REENGINEERING
NOTICED, THEY'RE GOING TO BE
ABLE TO COME AND HAVE A
COMPLETE WHOLENESS WITHIN
THE WORKING ENVIRONMENTED.

Maureen says AND WHAT DO WE
MEAN BY SOUL AND SPIRIT?

Ann says WELL, THERE'S BEEN A
DEBATE ON THE SUBJECT OF
SOUL AND SPIRIT, AS TO
WHETHER OR NOT THEY'RE ONE
IN THE SAME, FOR HUNDREDS OF
YEARS.
BUT FOR THE PURPOSE OF THIS
BOOK, I HAVE SAID THAT THE
SOUL IS THE EMBODIMENT OF
THE IMMATERIAL CONSCIOUSNESS,
AND THE SPIRIT IS THE
ENERGY.
AND SO THEY COME TOGETHER,
AS SOUL, SPIRIT MIND AND
BODY, AND WHEN WE COME TO
WORK, WE HAVE BEEN USED TO
LEAVING IT OUTSIDE.
NOW WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO
HAVE THAT WHOLE ESSENCE OF
WHO WE ARE AT THE WORK PLACE,
AS OPPOSED TO JUST BEING
FOCUSED ON MAKING A PROFIT.

Maureen says BUT THAT'S THE
BOTTOM LINE FOR A LOT OF
COMPANIES, THAT PEOPLE HAVE
TO WORK FOR.
SO HOW DO THOSE TWO THINGS
UNITE?

Ann says WELL, IT'S A QUESTION OF
WHETHER OR NOT THEY HAVE.
AND THE PREMISE IS THAT IN
DOING THE RESEARCH FOR THIS
BOOK, THAT I HAVE
CONSISTENTLY FOUND THAT
THERE IS A VERY STRONG
MOVEMENT OF PEOPLE WHO ARE
SAYING THAT THEY DO NOT WANT
TO SEPARATE IT ANY LONGER.
AND JUST MAKING A PROFIT
WILL NOT BE ENOUGH FOR THEM.
THEY WANT TO BE ABLE TO BE
CREATIVE, IMAGINATIVE,
INNOVATIVE, AND THEY WANT TO
BE ABLE TO BE MORE THAN JUST
THE WORKER THAT JUST FOLLOWS
THE INSTRUCTIONS.

Maureen says HAVE YOU COME
ACROSS A COMPANY OR A
CORPORATION THAT EMBODIES
WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT?
COULD YOU TELL US ABOUT IT?

Ann says I'M ASKED THAT QUESTION A
LOT, AND I HAVE TO TELL YOU,
MAUREEN, THERE ARE VERY FEW.
THERE IS ONE COMPANY THAT
YOUR AUDIENCE KNOWS A LOT
ABOUT, AND THAT'S BEN AND
JERRY'S ICE-CREAM.
AND THAT IS A COMPANY THAT
THOSE VALUES AND SOUL AND
SPIRIT HAVE NOT BEEN PARKED.
THEY'VE BEEN THE EMBODIMENT
OF EVERYTHING WE TALKED
ABOUT IN THE BOOK.

Maureen says GIVE US AN
EXAMPLE THAT SHOW WHAT'S
THEY DO FOR EMPLOYEES THAT
SHOWS THEY WANT THEM TO
BRING THEIR SPIRIT AND SOUL
TO WORK.

Ann says THEY HAVE
ACTUALLY CREATED MEDITATION
ROOMS.
THEY HAVE GOT PLACES WHERE
THEY HAVE MEETINGS THAT ARE
NOT HELD IN THE BOARD ROOM.
LANGUAGE IS VERY POWERFUL,
SO WHEN YOU THINK BOARD,
B-O-A RRB DR-D AS POPSED TO
BORED, B-O RRB R-E-D, THAT
YOU THINK COMMUNICATION IS
VERY DIFFERENT AS A RESULT.

Maureen says WHAT PERCENT OF THE WORK
FORCE WANTS TIME TO MEDITATE?

Ann says DON'T THINK OF IT SO MUCH
REALLY JUST AS NECESSARILY
MEDITATION BUT DOWN TIME.
WE DON'T ALLOW PEOPLE TO
HAVE DOWN TIME.
WE'RE SO BUSY.
THE DEMANDS ON US WITHIN THE
WORK PLACE ARE SO NON-STOP.
WE'RE AT A 24-7, 365 DAYS A
YEAR NOW.
SO IT'S VERY HARD FOR PEOPLE
TO JUST HAVE A MOMENT WHERE
THEY CAN JUST BE RELAXED AND
BE HAPPY.

Maureen says AND THAT'S
NOT -- IT DOESN'T SEEM TO BE
ENCOURAGED ANYMORE.
EVER SINCE THE ERA OF THE
80s, WHENEVER ONE WAS
DOWNSIZED THOSE WHO ARE LEFT
ARE DOING MORE, IT SEEMS.
TAKE AN HOUR OUT OF THE DAY
TO HAVE SOME DOWN TIME?
I DON'T EVEN GET LUNCH AWAY
FROM MY DESK, YOU KNOW WHAT
I MEAN?

Ann says BUT THAT'S PART OF THE
REASON WHY THE SOUL AND
SPIRIT IN THE SBORK PLACE IS
BECOMING SO VERY PORN,
BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE FEELING
SO STRESSED.
AND SO NOW PART OF THAT
ADVANTAGE, ALSO, IS BEING
ABLE TO OFFER THEM FLEX
HOURS.
AND ALSO BEING ABLE TO HAVE
HOME HOURS OF WORK SO THAT
YOU CAN WORK IN A DIFFERENT
ENVIRONMENT, THAT EVEN
THOUGH THE PRESSURE MIGHT
STILL BE THERE, THERE'S
STILL AN OPTION OF BEING
ABLE TO HAVE A SENSE OF MY
RELAXATION.

Maureen says AND WHAT HAS
CONVINCED YOU THAT COMPANIES,
CORPORATIONS, EMPLOYERS WILL
MOVE IN THIS DIRECTION?
WHY DO THEY HAVE TO?

Ann says BECAUSE THE FUTURE
MILLENNIUM GENERATION AND
THAT GENERATION IS BETTER
EDUCATED, MORE AGGRESSIVE
AND MORE TOGETHER IN WAYS
THAT THE BABY BOOMERS HAVE
NOT HAD THE PRIVILEGE OF
HAVING.
AND SO AS A RESULT, WHEN YOU
SEE THIS MERGE, THIS
GENERATION, ALONG WITH THE
BABY BOOMER, THERE'S GOING
TO BE A VERY DIFFERENT
BUSINESS MODEL AND THAT
BUSINESS MODEL IS GOING TO
DICTATE THAT THE SOUL AND
SPIRIT WILL BE IN THE
WORKPLACE.

Maureen says OKAY, THE DOT
COM GENERATION, AS YOU CALL
THEM.

Ann says YES, WE CALL THEM DOT
COMS.

Maureen says WHAT'S DIFFERENT
ABOUT THEM?
WHAT ARE THEY DEMANDING?

Ann says THE OPPORTUNITY OF BEING
MORE CREATIVE, HAVING MORE
POWER WITHIN THE WORKPLACE
AND MORE OF A SAY.
THEY WANT TO BE CREATIVE,
IMAGINATIVE, AS OPPOSED TO
JUST DOING THE JOB AT HAND.

Maureen says AND THEY FEEL --
SOMEHOW THEY SEEM LIKE THEY
FEEL MORE SECURE, MAYBE,
THAN PEOPLE MY AGE DO ABOUT
JOBS.
IF YOU'RE NOT TREAT AMERICAN
LEAGUE THE WAY I WANT TO BE
TREATED, I'LL GO SOMEWHERE
ELSE.

Ann says THAT'S THE POINT.
IT IS -- IT'S ALL ABOUT A
SELF-CONFIDENCE, AN ATTITUDE
AND THEY DON'T HAVE THE SAME
SENSE OF FEAR IF THIS JOB
DOESN'T WORK OUT THAT I
CAN'T MOVE ON AND FIND
ANOTHER ONE SO THAT
CONFIDENCE DOES VERY
DIFFERENT THINGS, AS FAR AS
AN ATTITUDE TOWARDS NOT ONLY
WORK BUT CREATE THE FUTURE
OF WORK.

Maureen says YOU ALSO
DESCRIBED, YOU SAY I DON'T
NEED TO GIVE YOU A LETTER OF
RESIGNATION.
IF I DON'T COME BACK AFTER
LUNCH.

Ann says I'M OUT OF HERE.

Maureen says ASSUME I'M OUT
OF HERE.
THEY DON'T SOUND LINE
RELIABLE EMPLOYEES IN SOME
WAYS.

Ann says WELL, I THINK IT'S A
QUESTION OF WHETHER OR NOT
YOU THINK THAT'S RELIABLE AS
OPPOSED TO WHETHER THAT'S
REALLY ABOUT A QUALITY
QUALITY OF LIFE.
BECAUSE WORK IS SOMETHING
THAT I'VE FOUND VERY FEW
PEOPLE HAVE A PASSION FOR.
SO WHEN YOU DON'T HAVE A
PASSION FOR WORK, AND YOU
THINK ABOUT THE.
A TIME YOU SPEND THERE, THIS
IS A GENERATION THAT'S GOING
TO MOVE AND CREATE SOMETHING
THAT'S VERY DIFFERENT ABOUT
PASSION.
THEY WANT TO BE ABLE TO HAVE
FUN, AND THEY WANT TO BE
ABLE TO HAVE A PASSION ABOUT
THE PLACE THAT THEY WORK IN.

Maureen says YOU SAY IN THE
BOOK, TOO, THAT EDUCATION
SHOULD CHANGE AROUND THIS
NEW MODEL OF WHAT THE
EMPLOYEE WILL BE.
COULD YOU BE MORE SPECIFIC
ABOUT THAT?
WHAT'S WRONG WITH THE WAY WE
EDUCATE KIDS NOW?

Ann says WELL, I THINK AGAIN WE'RE
LOOKING AT HOW IMAGINATIVE
ARE WE BEING WITHIN THE
SCHOOL SYSTEM?
AND WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT HOW
WORK IS EVOLVING AND THE
CHANGES THAT WE'RE ALL BEING
ASKED TO DEAL WITH HOW FAST
IS THAT EDUCATIONAL SYSTEM
WORKING?
HOW ARE THEY LOOKING AT IT,
FROM A GLOBAL PERSPECTIVE
THIS WE'RE LOOKING AT A
GLOBAL WORLD NOW WITH THE
TECHNOLOGY THAT'S AVAILABLE
TO US.
SO THAT'S GOING TO CHANGE
NOT ONLY EDUCATION BUT ALSO
WORK.
AND I THINK THAT THE
EDUCATION SYSTEM IS GOING TO
HAVE TO LOOK AT IT A LOT
CLOSER THAN THEY ARE.

Maureen says IT'S NOT ENOUGH
FOR UNIVERSITIES TO TRY TO
TURN OUT LIBERAL ARTS
CRITICAL THINKERS WHO CAN
FIND THEMSELVES IN A LOT OF
DIFFERENT SITUATIONS AND
REACT?
DO YOU THINK THEY'LL NEED --
ARE YOU SAYING, MORE
TECHNICAL SKILL OR WHAT?

Ann says I THINK WE HAVE A LOT OF
KNOWLEDGE.
KNOWLEDGE IS GOING TO BE
EASILY FOUND BUT WHAT'S
GOING TO HAPPEN IS WHETHER
OR NOT KNOWLEDGE IS COMBINED
WITH INNOVATION, AND WHEN
YOU THINK ABOUT WHETHER OR
NOT A COMPANY OR PRODUCT IS
ACTUALLY GOING TO BE
RELEVANT IN THE NEXT FIVE
YEARS, THAT'S GOING TO BE
THE QUESTION THAT WE'LL HAVE
TO ASK OURSELVES.
THAT DOESN'T COME FROM JUST
A TRADITIONAL BUSINESS MODEL
THAT DOES COME FROM SOMEBODY
WHO HAS BROUGHT THE
CREATIVITY OF SOUL AND
SPIRIT AND IMAGINATION AND
INNOVATION, WHICH IS WHY I
FEEL THAT'S WHAT IS EMBODIED
IN A LIVING WORKPLACE.

Maureen says DESCRIBE FOR US
THE IDEAL MANAGER.
THE IDEAL PERSON TO WORK
FOR.
WHAT DOES THAT PERSON --

Ann says WELL THE IDEAL MANAGER
WOULD BE SOMEBODY FOR SURE
WHO RESPECTS A DIVERSIFIED
WORKPLACE, HAS A TRUE
UNDERSTANDING OF RESPECT AND
REGARD, IS AN OPEN
COMMUNICATOR AND EQUALLY OF
IMPORTANCE IS THEIR ABILITY
TO LISTEN, BECAUSE THEY'RE
PROVIDING SOLUTIONS.
NOT EVERYTHING'S PERFECT,
AND I'VE NEVER SUGGESTED
THAT IT IS, BUT I DO SAY
THAT THAT MANAGER HAS THE
OPPORTUNITY OF BEING A
SERVANT TO HIS TEAM, AS WELL
AS BEING JUST THE BOSS.

Maureen says A SERVANT TO THE
TEAM IN.

Ann says WELL IT'S AN INTERESTING
CONCEPT, ISN'T IT?

Maureen says YEAH.
YOU MUST GET SOME RESISTANCE
WHEN YOU TEAL PEOPLE WHO
HIRE YOU AS A CONSULTANT
THAT THAT'S WHAT THEY HAVE
TO DO.

Ann says WELL, I GET THE
RESISTANCE WHEN YOU'RE
DEALING WITH EGO.
I DON'T GET THE RESISTANCE
WHEN YOU'RE DEALING WITH
SOMEBODY WHO IS OPEN TO
CHANGE AND PREPARED TO TAKE
RISKS.
AND THAT ALSO COMES FROM
LOOKING AT WHO YOU ARE AND
WHETHER OR NOT YOU'RE ABLE
TO SAY, WELL, MAYBE I'LL
HAVE TO SORT OF MOVE A
LITTLE BIT IN THIS DIRECTION
AND BE A BETTER LISTENER OR
A BETTER COMMUNICATOR, AND
MORE IMPORTANTLY, BEING ABLE
TO INVITE PEOPLE TO COME IN
AND TALK ABOUT WHAT THEY SEE
ARE OPPORTUNITIES WITHIN
THAT ENVIRONMENT.

Maureen says AND DOES THAT
HAVE TO COME FROM THE VERY
TOP AND TRICKLE DOWN THROUGH
THE MIDDLE MANAGERS, OR
WHERE IS IT MOST IMPORTANT
TO HAVE THAT SERVITUDE?

Ann says WELL, I SEE THAT WHAT'S
GOING TO HAPPEN WITH THIS
MOVEMENT IS THAT IT'S
ACTUALLY GOING TO BE
GRASSROOTS MOVEMENT AND IT'S
GOING TO MOVE UP.

Maureen says TRICKLE UP.

Ann says SO IT'LL BE AN
INTERESTING THING TO SEE HOW
THE BABY BOOMERS REACT WHEN
THEY HIT HEAD-ON, WHEN THE
MANAGERS WHO ARE BABY BOOMER
ARE DEALING WITH THE
MILLENNIAL GENERATION.

Maureen says YES.

Ann says WHO AND WHO'S GOING TO
COMPROMISE AND HOW THAT
COMPROMISE IS GOING TO TAKE
PLACE.
AND I'M SUGGEST IN THE BOOK
THAT WHAT WE NEED TO DO IS
TO BE OPEN TO THAT AND
INVITE THE OPPORTUNITIES OF
HOW THAT CAN WORK WITH A
TREMENDOUS COLLABORATION.

Maureen says YOU ALSO SAY
THAT EMPLOYEES SOMETIMES
HAVE TO RECOGNIZE WHEN THEIR
IDEALS AND VALUES DON'T FIT
WITH EVERYONE ELSE'S IN THE
WORKPLACE.
CAN YOU TALK ABOUT THAT?

Ann says YES, BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY IT
ISN'T A PERFECT WORLD, AS
WE'VE MENTIONED.
BUT WHEN EMPLOYEES ARE
COMING TO WORK WITH AN
ORGANIZATION, EVEN IF IT'S
SMALL BUSINESS, THAT YOU'RE
WORKING WITH THEIR VALUES.
IF THEY DON'T MERGE, AND YOU
CAN'T SUPPORT THEM AND YOU
CAN'T RESPECT THEM, THEN I
SAY THAT THAT'S PROBABLY A
MOMENT OF TRUTH WHERE YOU
HAVE TO ASK YOURSELF IF THIS
IS THE RIGHT PLACE TO BE.

Maureen says ALL RIGHT, VERY
INTERESTING.
I ENJOYED THE BOOK.
THANKS A LOT FOR TALKING
ABOUT IT TODAY.
ANN COOMBS IS THE AUTHOR OF
THE LIVING WORKPLACE, SOUL,
SPIRIT AND SUCCESS IN THE
21st CENTURY.
IT'S PUBLISHED BY HARPER
COLLINS.
IF YOU WANT MORE INFORMATION,
YOU SHOULD CHECK OUT ANN'S
WEBSITE.

A slate pops up that reads “Ann Coombs. Www.thelivingworkplace.com.”

She continues BROKEN CHIN THAT OLD PUZZLES,
IT MAY BE GARBAGE TO YOU,
BUT IT'S MOOS ZAI I CANS AND
PICTURE FRAMES TO OUR
INTREPID GARBAGE GANG.
HERE IS THEIR LAST CRAFT OF
THE WEEK.

A clip plays.

A fast action clip shows a variety of different items as letters flash on screen. The shot focuses in on a sign above a store entrance that reads “The Garbage Palace.”

Patti appears on screen standing behind the counter of the store. She's in her fifties with long brown hair tied back and wears rectangular glasses and a purple shirt.

She says HELLO, I'M PATTI, THE
GARBAGE QUEEN.
WELCOME TO THE GARBAGE
PALACE.
AND HERE COMES MY PARTNER IN
GARBAGE, MYKE.

Myke steps out from behind the counter. He's in his forties with a brown beard and brown hair. He's wearing a red shirt and jeans.

Myke says HI, WE'RE GOING SHOW YOU
WHAT WE DO WITH GARBAGE.
TODAY WE'RE DOING TO DO
PUZZLE FRAMES AND MOSAICS.

Now they stand behind a wooden table filled with crafts. A caption reads “Myke Stoel. Patti Smyth. The Garbage Palace.”

Patti says AND FOR THE MOSAIC YOU'RE
GOING TO NEED TILE ADHESIVE

She picks up a tile with adhesive painted on the back and says
AND WHAT I DO IS JUST PUT A
BIT OUT ON ONE OF YOUR TILES,
LIKE SO WITH A KNIFE, AND
YOU TAKE A TILE, PUT IT
BETWEEN NEWSPAPER, AND THEN
YOU'RE GOING TO SMASH IT.

She uses a hammer to smash the tile.

Myke says WELL THAT'S GREAT SOURX
GET A WHOLE BUNCH OF LITTLE
PIECES NOW.

Patti says MM-HMM THERE YOU GO.
AND THEN YOU CAN DO A
PATTERN, OR JUST RANDOMLY
PLACE THEM DOWN.

She puts adhesive on each broken tile and glues the pieces onto a clay flower pot.

She continues SO YOU'RE GOING TO BUTTER --
IT'S JUST LIKE BUTTERING
TOAST.
PUT A LITTLE BIT OF ADHESIVE
ON AND THEN YOU JUST PLACE
YOUR TILE --

Myke says WHAT KIND OF ADHESIVE IS
THAT?

She says CERAMIC TILE ADHESIVE.

Myke says AND CAN YOU USE OTHER
THINGS BESIDES TILES?

Patti says SURE CAN.

Myke says HOW ABOUT MARBLES.

She says YOU CAN USE MARBLES OR
CHIPPED CHINA.

He says OH, LIKE THE TEAPOT I
BROKE YESTERDAY?

She says THERE YOU GO.

He says OKAY.
GOOD.

Patti says AND THEN ONCE YOU'VE
COVERED YOUR ENTIRE CLAY POT,
YOU HAVE TO LET IT DRY FOR
24 HOURS, AND THEN YOU DO
THE GROUTING.
FOR THE GROUT YOU'RE GOING
TO POUR A LITTLE BIT OF
WATER INTO YOUR GROUT.

She uses a wooden stick to mix up a preparation inside a plastic bottle.

Myke says NOW WHAT IS GROUT?

Patti says IT'S WHAT'S GOING TO HOLD
YOUR MOSAIC TILES TOGETHER.
IT'S A CEMENTMENT FORM OF
CEMENT.

Myke says AND WHAT KIND OF
CONSISTENCY ARE YOU LOOKING
SNORE.

She says LIKE A PANCAKE BATTER.
AND THAT'S GOOD.
AND THEN WITH YOUR RUBBER
GLOVE ON...
YOU'RE GOING TO TAKE SOME OF
YOUR GROUT --

She uses rubber gloves to scoop up a small amount of grout. She rubs it on the clay pot.

Myke says OKAY, NOW THIS LOOKS
PRETTY MESSY.

She says IT IS.
SO MAKE SURE YOU HAVE
SOMETHING DONE ON YOUR TABLE
AND YOU'RE GOING PUT IT
RIGHT OVERTOP OF ALL YOUR
TILES AND WORKING IT IN AS
YOU'RE GOING ALONG.
MAKE SURE IT'S ALL FILLED UP
INTO THE CRACKS.

Myke says BUT YOU CAN'T SEE THE
PATTERN ANYMORE.

Patti says OH, IT'LL COME BACK.
YOU'RE GOING TO TAKE YOUR
SPONGE LATER AND...
AND WIPE IT OFF.
SO YOU PUT IT ON, AND THEN
YOU'LL WIPE IT OFF LATER.

Myke says AND HOW LONG DOES THIS
HAVE TO SIT BEFORE YOU CAN
WIPE IT OFF?

Patti says TEN MINUTES IS GOOD.
JUST LEAVE IT ON FOR TEN
MINUTES AND IT'LL START TO
DRY A BIT.

Myke says WHILE WE'RE WAITING FOR
THIS TO DRY, WHY DON'T WE GO
WORK ON THE PUZZLE PICTURE
FRAMES?

Music plays. Pictures of crafts appear on screen surrounding a colourful text that reads “Garbage.”

Mike picks up a white rectangular frame and says SO THIS IS GOING TO BE OUR
END RESULT TODAY.
WHAT YOU START OFF WITH IS A
PIECE OF CARDBOARD, YOU JUST
CUT THE CENTRE OUT SO THAT
YOU END UP WITH A FRAME JUST
LIKE THIS.
I WOULD GET AN ADULT TO CUT
IT OUT FOR YOU.
AND YOU GET YOUR OLD PUZZLE
THAT YOU'VE LOST PIECES FROM
AND YOU START GLUING IT ONTO
THE FRAME.
THERE'S NO WRONG WAY OF
DOING THIS YOU CAN USE AS
MANY OR AS FEW AS YOU WANT
AND IT DOESN'T MATTER IF
THEY OVERLAP, HANG OVER THE
EDGE, THAT'S WHAT MAKES IT
MORE FUN.

Myke glues a glue gun to stick puzzle pieces and buttons onto the frame.

Patti says CAN YOU USE WHITE GLUE
FOR THAT, TOO?

Myke says SURE.
YOU JUST HAVE TO LET IT DRY
FLAT, I WOULD SAY FOR A FEW
HOURS.
AND YOU CAN ALSO DO IT WITH
OTHER THINGS AROUND THE
HOUSE, LIKE BUTTONS.
SO YOU JUST FILL THE WHOLE
FRAME UP THIS IS WHAT YOU
END UP WITH AND YOU CAN PUT
YOUR FAVOURITE PICTURE IN
THERE JUST LIKE MY LITTLE
KITTY.

He holds up a finished frame with a picture of a cat.

He continues OKAY, I GUESS WE BETTER GO
CHECK OUT, SEE IF THE POT IS
DRY.

Patti holds the clay pot. She starts to rub off the now dried grout to reveal the mosaic underneath.

She says GREAT.
SO THIS IS READY NOW TO DO
YOUR EXCAVATING, WHICH IS
RUBBING OFF ALL THE GROUT
THAT'S ON THE TILES, SO
YOU'RE LIKE AN ARCHEOLOGIST
WHERE YOU'RE TRYING TO FIND
ALL YOUR TILES.
AND THE GROUT COMES IN ALL
DIFFERENT COLOURS.
YOU CAN GET IT IN WHITE AND
IN BLUE.
I LIKE USING BLACK FOR WHEN
I'M DOING FLOWER POTS
BECAUSE THE DIRT IS DARK.
SO IT DOESN'T MESS UP YOUR
GROUT.
I THINK I'VE PRETTY MUCH
FOUND ALL MY TILES.
WITH A SPONGE -- I'M GOING
TO TAKE OFF MY GLOVE FOR
THIS.
YOU'RE GOING TO WET THE
SPONGE.

She soaks a yellow sponge in water, wrings it out and uses it to clean grout off the clay pot.

She continues YOU SHOULD USE COLD WATER.
AND YOU WANT TO RING IT OUT
AS MUCH AS YOU CAN GET OFF.
AND THEN YOU'RE JUST GOING
TO GO LIGHTLY OVER IT.
AND THIS SMOOTHS OUT ALL THE
GROUT.
AND IT'S NOT GOING TO CLEAN
UP THE TILES COMPLETELY,
YOU'LL DO THAT AGAIN AFTER
IT'S COMPLETELY DRY.
AND THE GROUT DOESN'T STICK
ON THE TILE ITSELF.

Myke says I GUESS YOU NEED TO GET
THE SPONGE PRETTY DRY,
OTHERWISE IT'S GOING TO
REACTIVATE THE GROUT.

Patti says YEAH.

Myke says OKAY SO IS THAT AS CLEAN
AS IT'S GOING GETS?

Patti says NO, AFTER IT DRIES YOU
TAKE A CLOTH AND YOU BUFF IT
UP.
AND IT TAKES ALL THE FILM
AWAY.

She uses a black cloth to clean the tiles on the pot. She picks up the cleaned pot and says
AND YOU HAVE A NICE MOSAIC
CLAY POT.

The clip ends.

Back at the studio, Maureen says LOOKED REAL
MESSY, BUT I THINK IT COMES
OUT LOVELY, AND YOU CAN GET
INSTRUCTIONS FOR THAT CRAFT
ON OUR WEBSITE AT
WWW.TVO.ORG/MORE TO LIFE.
AND YOU'LL ALSO FIND THOM
ERNST MOVIE PICKS HERE, HE'S
HERE EVERY WEEK WITH A NEW
PICK FOR THE BIG AND SMALL
SCREEN.

Thom appears on screen. He's in his late forties, clean-shaven with brown hair. He's wearing rounded glasses and a yellow sweater.

He says WELCOME.

Maureen says YOU WENT TO SEE
ONE I'VE BEEN LOOKING
FORWARD TO “ENEMY AT THE
GATES.”
OPENS TODAY.
TELL US ABOUT IT.

The caption changes to “Thom Ernst. Movie buff.”

Thom says IT'S
APPARENTLY A TRUE STORY,
DURING WORLD WAR II, AND WAR
TORN STALIN GRAD WHEN THE
NAZIS INVADED AND WE'VE COME
THIS THERE WHEN THE RUSSIANS
REALLY NEEDED A HERO TO GET
THEMSELVES MOTIVATED, TO WIN
THEIR BATTLE AGAINST THE
GERMANS, AND OF COURSE WE
ALL KNOW HOW THAT TURNED
OUT.
BUT THEY PICKED AS THEIR
HEREARY A SNIPER WHO'S
PLAYED BY JUDE LAW, AND
BECAUSE HE IS SO GOOD AT
WHAT HE DOES, AND HE IS
ACTUALLY RAISING THE MORAL
OF RUSSIANS, ALONG COMES ED
HARRIS, THE GERMAN KWIVE LEN
AS A SNIPER TO HIM.

Maureen says OH, SNIPER TO
SNIPER.

Thom says SNIPER TO SNIPER, SCENE
AFTER SCENE AFTER SCENE.

Maureen says ALL RIGHT, LET'S
ROLL THE CLIP FROM ENEMY AT
THE GATES.

A movie clip plays on screen. In the clip, a man in his fifties looks through the aim of his sniper and fires a shot at another man in the distance. The other man stays in his hiding place while he attempts to pull a gun closer with a metal pole.

The clip ends.

Maureen says WELL THAT WAS
TENSION.

Thom says YOU REACTED
WELL TO THAT I THINK MAYBE
THIS FILM MIGHT BE MADE FOR
YOU.

Maureen says POOR JUDE.

Thom says I THINK HE
KIND OF LOOKS LIKE NILES
CRANE.
BUT I KNOW I'M IN A MINORITY
ABOUT THAT.

Maureen says YOU ARE FIRED.
I CAN TELL YOU DIDN'T LIKE
THIS MOVIE.

Thom says WELL YOU KNOW,
PART OF THE PROBLEM IS IT'S
A WELL-CONSTRUCTED FILM AND
IT'S A BEAUTIFUL-LOOKING
FILM BUT THERE IS ABSOLUTELY
NO EMOTIONAL CONNECTION TO
ANY THE CHARACTERS.
AND THERE IS A VERY
DRAMATIC -- POTENTIALLY
DRAMATIC SCENE, MUCH MORE SO
THAN THE ONE YOU SAW, WHERE
INNOCENCE IS BEING LED TO
THEIR EXECUTION AND AT THE
END OF IT YOU FEEL NOTHING.
AND THIS HAPPENS TIME AND
TIME AGAIN IN THE FILLMENT.
AND BASICALLY WHAT WE HAVE
ARE TWO SNIPERS HIDING OUT,
YOU KNOW, FOR EIGHT HOURS A
DAY, LIKE IT WAS THEIR PUNCH-IN
JOB, AND GOING BACK AND
HAVING THEIR PERSONAL LIVES
AND COMING BACK TO DO THE
SAME THE NEXT DAY.
AND THERE'S EXTRAS WHO COME
ALONG WITH JUDE LAW, AND YOU
KNOW THOSE ARE THE PEOPLE
WHO ARE GOING TO CATCH THE
BULLET SO IT ALMOST HAS THAT
“STAR TREK”IAN EFFECT TO IT.

Maureen says BUT HAS SOME NICE NAMES,
JUDE LAW AND JOSEPH FIENNES.

Thom says NO COMPLAINT
WITH ALL THOSE PEOPLE.
THEY'RE VERY FINE ACTORS AND
I'M SURE THEIR BEST IN THIS
ROLE BUT I THINK THE
DIRECTOR, JEAN JACQUES
RENAUD WHO ALSO DID “THE
BEAR” AND “THE NAME OF THE
ROSE” JUST DIDN'T PUT ANY OF
HIS HEART AND SOUL INTO THIS
AND PUT A LOT OF EFFORT AND
MONEY INTO THE WAY THE FILM
LOOKED AND THERE ARE SOME
BREATHTAKING VISUALS IN
THIS.
SOME PEOPLE ENJOY THIS.
I FELT SORT OF LEFT IN THE
COLD.

Maureen says LET DOWN.
AND YOU KNOW, I THINK FOR
THREE WEEKS IN A ROW, YOU'VE
COME IN AND BEEN
DISAPPOINTED IN A MOVIE THAT
YOU'VE SEEN.

Thom says I SO MUCH WANTED TO COME
IN WITH A MOVIE THAT SAID
MAUREEN, THIS IS THE FILM WE
REALLY WANT.

Maureen says MAYBE YOU SHOULD HAVE
SEEN ED HARRIS' OTHER FILM
BEING RELEASED.
POLLOCK.
ALL RIGHT, BUT YOUR VIDEO
RECOMMENDATION STARS MICHAEL
DOUGLAS, TELL US ABOUT
WONDER BOYS.

Thom says I CAST MY
MIND BACK AS FAR AS I CAN
REMEMBER, I CAN NOT THINK OF
A BETTER ROLE MICHAEL
DOUGLAS HAS DONE.
WONDER BOYS WAS RELEASED
TWICE TO TRY TO GET ITS
MONEY AND ALSO I THINK TRY
TO GET THE ACADEMY'S
RECOGNITION OF MICHAEL IN
THIS ROLE.
THIS IS A SPLENDID FILM BY
CURTIS HANSON WHO ALSO DID
L.A. CONFIDENTIAL, AND IT'S
AN ODD FILM, IT'S AN
EXCENTRIC FILM WITH
COLOURFUL CHARACTERS BUT NOT
AT THE EXPENSE OF ANYBODY IN
THIS MOVIE.
THESE ARE COLOURFUL
CHARACTERS TO BE COLOURFUL,
THEY'RE COLOURFUL BECAUSE IT
PROGRESSES THE STORY AND
THEY'RE INTERESTING.
IT'S ABOUT A WRITER WHOSE
WIFE JUST LEFT HIM, BUT
SOMETHING ELSE IS GNAWING AT
HIM, AS HE SAYS HIMSELF IN
THE FILM “WIVESES HAVE LEFT
ME BEFORE.”
IT REVEALS ITSELF THROUGH A
SERIES OF REALLY INTERESTING
EVENTS NOT UNLIKE A GOOD
NOVEL, I THINK.

Maureen says OKAY, LET'S
WATCH THE CLIP FIRST AND
TALK SOME MORE ABOUT IT.
HERE'S WONDER BOYS.

A movie clip plays on the screen. In the clip, two men ride in a car.

The man in the passenger seat looks at a dead dog in the back of the car and says WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO
WITH... IT?

The driver says I DON'T KNOW.
I'M STILL TRYING TO FIGURE
OUT HOW TO TELL THE
CHANCELLOR THAT I MURDERED
HER HUSBAND'S DOG.

The passenger says YOU?

The driver says TRUST ME, JAMES, WHEN THE
FAMILY PET'S BEEN
ASSASSINATED THE OWNER DOES
NOT WANT TO HEAR THAT ONE OF
HER STUDENTS WAS A
TRIGGERMAN?

The passenger says DOES SHE WANT TO HEAR IT
WAS ONE OF HER PROFESSORS?

The driver says I'VE GOTTEN YOU'RE IN.

- I'VE GOT TENURE.

The clip ends.

Maureen says YEAH, I LIKE
MICHAEL DOUGLAS.

Thom says HE'S SO GOOD IN THIS.
HE'S DISSHELVED.

Maureen says KIND OF PUFFY.

Thom says KIND OF PUFFY,
IRRESPONSIBLE.
THIS IS A FILM YOU WATCH
TWICE, THE FIRST BECAUSE
IT'S ENJOYABLE, THE SECOND
TO SOAK IN HOW GOOD A FILM
AND SCRIPT CAN BE.

Maureen says I SEE WE'VE GOT
TOBY McGWIRE IN THERE,
FRANCIS McDERMOTT MET.

Thom says WHO PLAYS
MICHAEL McDOUGALL HAS' LOVER
AND HIS BOSS'S WIFE, WHO
HE'S IMPREGNATED.

Maureen says BUT DO YOU LIKE
THIS MAN?
WIVES HAVE LEFT HIM BEFORE.
HE'S IMPREGNATED HIS BOSS'
WIFE.
DO YOU LIKE HIM?

Thom says I LIKED HIM
AND I WAS ROOTING FOR THE
CHAR FROM THE WORD GO.
I MEAN, BECAUSE HIS INTENT
IS ALWAYS GOOD.
HIS TURMOIL IS ALWAYS
BECAUSE OF HIS WRITE
SUGGESTION AND GOT TO LOVE
AN ARTIST WHO SUFFERS FOR
HIS ART, RIGHT?
I THINK SO.
I THINK THAT'S WHAT WE FEEL
THIS THIS FILM AND NOT ONLY
TOBY McGWIRE AND FRANCIS
McDERMOTT MET, BUT ROBERT
DOWNEY Jr. IN THIS FILM AS
HIS BISEXUAL WHEEGHT BRINGS
A TRANSVESTITE DATE WITH HIM
AND DOESN'T BELIEVE HE'S A
TRANSVESTITE.
THERE'S A LOT OF COMIC TURNS
AND TWISTS BUT ABSOLUTELY
EVERYTHING TAKES US FROM ONE
MOMENT TO THE NEXT.

Maureen says THEN WHY DID
THIS FILM NOT DO SO WELL
WHEN IT WAS FIRST RELEASED.

Thom says I THOUGHT ABOUT THAT FOR
A WHILE BECAUSE I COMPARE IT
TO THE ICE STORM.
THAT DID CRITICALLY WELL, IF
NOT WITH AN AUDIENCE, AND
AMERICAN BEAUTY, WHICH DID
VERY WELL ON BOTH COUNTS AND
THIS FILM IS VERY SIMILAR TO
BOTH OF THOSE.
WHY THOSE TWO GOT THE
ATTENTION AND THIS ONE
DIDN'T, I CAN'T QUITE -- I
CAN'T SAY.
IT'S ONE OF THOSE MYSTERIES,
I SUPPOSE.
AND I DON'T WANT TO TAKE
ANYTHING AWAY FROM AMERICAN
BEAUTY AND ICE STORM.
BOTH FILMS THAT I LOVED BUT
IS ONE IS RIGHT UP THERE.
IT JUST WAS UNABLE TO FIND
THE AUDIENCE.
PERHAPS IN ITS VIDEO RELEASE
IT WILL.

Maureen says LAST QUESTION,
SCOMPIM TOTALLY PUTTING YOU
ON THE SPOT WITH THIS IT'S
St. PATRICK'S DAY TOMORROW
IS THERE A FILM ABOUT
IRELAND OR AN IRISH FILM
THAT STANDS OUT FOR YOU?

Thom says WELL, OFF THE
TOP OF MY HEAD I'D HAVE TO
SAY MICHAEL COLLINS.

Maureen says OH, WITH LIAM
NEESOM.

Thom says YEAH.

Maureen says AND THAT OTHER
GREAT ACTOR FROM IRELAND.

Thom says AND JULIA
ROBERTS IS IN THAT TOO.

Maureen says WELL AT LEAST
IT'S A SMALL PART.
HAPPY St. PATRICK'S DAY.

Thom says THANK YOU,
YOU, TOO.

Maureen says THOM ERNST IS
OUR RESIDENT MOVIE REVIEWER.
YOU CAN FIND LOTS OF LINKS
ON OUR WEBSITE AS I SAID AT WWW.MORETOLIFE/TVO.ORG.
THANKS FOR WATCHING.

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