Transcript: Gardening | May 15, 2000

(music plays)
The opening sequence shows a wooden table with a small lit candle as several words fly by: Nutrition, medicine, prevention, treatment, health.
Fast clips show different sets of hands performing activities on the table such as pulling petals from a daisy, drawing a big red heart, tuning a violin, flipping through the pages of a book, cooking, and pouring a glass of red wine.
In animation, the title appears inside the shape of a house: “More to life.”

Then, Karen appears in the studio. She sits in a studio with yellow walls and a small TV set in the background, which reads “More to life.”

Karen is in her late thirties with short black hair and bangs. She’s wearing a gray blazer and a necklace.

Karen says HELLO, I'M KAREN
HORSMAN SITTING IN FOR
MAUREEN TAYLOR AND YOU'RE
WATCHING “MORE TO LIFE.”
WE'RE TALKING GUARD
CONTINUING TODAY AND THERE'S
MORE WAYS THAT YOU CAN
SPRUCE UP THAT GREEN SPACE
THAN JUST ADDING PERENNIALS
AND ANNUALS.
HAVE YOU EVER THOUGHT ABOUT
SHRUBS OR MAYBE EVEN A POND,
WHICH CAN SOUND CHALLENGING
BUT IT'S ALL THE RAGE?
WELL WE'RE GOING TO TALK
GARDENING WITH OUR EXPERT
HERE, FRANK FERRAGINE, HE'S
OUR GARDENING GURU HERE AT
“MORE TO LIFE.”
AND IF YOU HAVE ANY
QUESTIONS ABOUT MAKING YOUR
GARDEN INTO YOUR SANCTUARY
YOU CAN GIVE FRANK A CALL
HERE.
HE'LL ANSWER YOUR QUESTIONS.

A caption appears on screen. It reads “416-848-2727. 1-888-411-1234.”

The caption changes to “moretolife@tvo.org.”

Karen continues AND WE'VE GOT TWO
COPIES OF THIS BEAUTIFUL
BOOK TO GIVE AWAY, IT'S
CALLED “THE TULIP” SO WE'LL
GIVE THOSE NAMES OUT AT THE
END OF THE SHOW.

Karen shows a white book cover that features a tulip.

She continues FRANK, WELCOME BACK.
NICE TO SEE YOU AGAIN.

Frank sits by a table with potted plants. He’s in his mid-thirties with black hair. He’s wearing a polo shirt.

Frank says NICE TO
SEE YOU, TOO.

Karen says THIS BOOK IS
STUNNING.

Frank says IT'S A
WHOLE HISTORY OF TULIPS AND
I DON'T KNOW IF YOU KNOW
ABOUT TULIPS, THEY GO BACK
TO THE 1700s WHERE THERE'S A
THING CALLED TUP LIP MANIA
AND TULIPS USED TO BE TRADED
AS CURRENCY AND PEOPLE WOULD
TRADE A TULIP FOR AN ENTIRE
ESTATE OR CATTLE.
PEOPLE THINK A TULIP IS
PRETTY SIMPLE BUT --

Karen says AND JUST READING
LOU IT AND THINKING ABOUT
THE SUBJECT MATTER BEFORE WE
GET INTO LANDSCAPING, BUT
JUST OFF THE TOP I WANTED TO
ASK YOU WHY MY TULIPS ARE
DEAD AND MY NEIGHBOUR'S LOOK
GORGEOUS.
DID I DO SOMETHING WRONG?
IS THERE A CERTAIN LIFE OF A
TULIP?

Frank says WELL YOU
GOT TO MAKE SURE THE POINT
INSIDE GOES UP, AND THE
OTHER THING IS TULIPS DO
NEED SOME SUNLIGHT.
SO YOU GOT TO MAKE SURE
THERE IS SUNLIGHT IN YOUR
AREA AND THEY NEED A REALLY
WELL-DRAINED SOIL.
SO YOU'VE GOT TO MAKE SURE
YOU DON'T HAVE A CLAY-BASED
SOIL THERE.
THE OTHER THING, TOO, WHEN
YOU'RE PLANTING THEM, IT'S
ALWAYS A GOOD IDEA TO PLANT
THEM THREE TIMES THEIR
DEPTH.
IN THE FALL -- YOU PLANT
TULIPS IN THE FALL, AND
WHATEVER THEIR HEIGHT IS,
YOU PLANT IT THREE TIMES IN
DEPTH.

The caption changes to “Frank Ferragine. Gardening Guru.”

He continues AND THEN THEY SHOULD DO WELL
BUT TULIPS DO HAVE A LIFE
SPAN OF ABOUT FIVE YEARS AND
THEN THEY NEED TO BE DIVIDED
THAT IS YOU PICK THEM OUT
AND PRUNE OFF THE BULBLETS
AND THE OTHER THING, IS
YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO PICK THE
FLOWER OFF AFTER THEY FINISH
BLOOMING BUT LEAVE THE
LEAVES ON.

Karen says WHAT ABOUT THE
STEM?

Frank says YOU CAN
TAKE THE STEM BUT LEAVE THE
LEAVES ON, AND THE REASON IS
THEY'RE WHAT CREATE THE
ENERGY FOR THE BULB TO MAKE
A BLOOM FOR NEXT YEAR.
NOW AFTER THE TULIPS FINISH
FLOWERING, YOU PICK THE
FLOWER OFF BUT LEAVE THE
LEAVES ON FOR AN ENERGY
SOURCE.

Karen says WHAT'S THE LIFE OF
A TULIP?
LAST YEAR IT LASTED MAYBE A
WEEK.
THIS YEAR THEY ONLY
LASTED -- WELL, ABOUT TEN
DAYS BUT I THOUGHT THEY
SHOULD LAST A BIT LONGER.

Frank says DEPENDS
ON THE VARIETY AND ALSO THE
TEMPERATURE, THE WEATHER.
IF WE HAD COOLER
TEMPERATURES, COOL SUNLIGHT
TEMPERATURES, IT WOULD BE
GREAT.
THEY WOULD LAST A LONG TIME.
BUT WHEN YOU HAVE HOT HUMID
WEATHER AND THINGS GROW FAST
AND RAPID YOU'RE GOING TO
HAVE A SHORTER TIME.
YOU EVEN NOTICE INDOORS, IF
YOU HAVE POTTED TULIPS, IF
YOU PUT THEM IF A COOL ROOM
THEY'LL LAST A LONG TIME,
BUT IF THEY'RE IN A WARM
ROOM, THEY'LL SHOOT UP, POP
OPEN AND FINISH.
THEY WILL FLOWER IN THE
SPRING BUT IT'S ALL BASED ON
TEMPERATURE, DAYLIGHT --

Karen says AND THINGS HAVE
BEEN SO WHACKY.

Frank says OH, IT'S
BEEN A WHACKY SEASON.
IT'S BEEN WARM, IT'S BEEN
COLD.
I LOVE CANADA.

He chuckles.

Karen says WELL LET'S TALK
LANDSCAPING AND GARDENING
DESIGN BECAUSE THAT'S WHY I
WANT TO START OFF WITH THE
SHOW.
CERTAINLY THE QUESTIONS CAN
RUN THE GAMUT BUT I JUST
WANTED TO START WITH THAT
BECAUSE WHEN IT COMES TO
GARDEN DESIGN YOU'VE GOT TO
BE ON YOUR WAY OF DOING IT
NOW TO DECIDE WHAT YOU'RE
GOING DO IN THE NEXT FEW
WEEKS.
DO YOU RECOMMEND STARTING
FROM SCRATCH OR CAN YOU WORK
AROUND WHAT YOU'VE GOT
ALREADY?

Frank says WELL YOU
CAN ALWAYS DEFINITELY WORK
AROUND WHAT YOU HAVE BUT A
LOT OF PEOPLE I KNOW OUT OUT
THERE HAVE NEW HOMES AND
DON'T HAVE ANYTHING.
AND THE MOST IMPORTANT THING
WHEN YOU'RE STARTING TO DO A
DESIGN, IS REALLY TO TAKE
THE TIME TO LOOK AT YOUR
PROPERTY, AND NUMBER ONE,
FIGURE OUT HOW MUCH SUNLIGHT
YOU HAVE IN DIFFERENT AREAS.
SO THIS IS GOING TO BE A
PROCESS.
IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT'S
GOING TO TAKE DAYS TO FIGURE
OUT LIGHT.
BECAUSE THE LIGHT CHANGES
COURSE OF SEASON SO
SOMETIMES IT MIGHT TAKE YOU
A FULL YEAR TO DEVELOP AND
DESIGN BEFORE YOU GET IN
THERE AND START GARDENING.
THE OTHER THINGS YOU HAVE TO
PAY ATTENTION TO, TOO, HOW
AM I GOING TO USE THE SPACE?
DO I WANT MY KIDS TO THROW A
FOOTBALL IN THE BACKYARD?
DO I NEED A DOG RUN?
ALL THESE DIFFERENT THINGS.
THEN YOU WANT TO FIGURE OUT
WHAT TYPE OF SOIL BECAUSE
SOIL IS THE BASIC BUILDING
BLOCK.
AND THERE'S A WHOLE LIST OF
LIMITATIONS THAT YOU KIND OF
FIGURE OUT, WHICH REALLY
THEN TELLS YOU WHAT TYPICAL
PLANTS YOU SHOULD SELECT AND
WHAT TYPE OF LOOK YOU WANT
TO CREATE.
PLANNING IS ESSENTIAL AND
IT'S THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN
HAVING A SUCCESSFUL GARDEN
AND NOT HAVING A SUCCESSFUL
GARDEN.
THE OTHER THING, TOO, IS I
ALWAYS SUGGEST THE NEW TIME
GARDENERS, JUNIOR
HORTICULTURALISTS I CALL
THEM, MAKE SURE THEY START
WITH A SMALLER PROJECT FIRST
AND MOVE ON, NOT DOING THE
ENTIRE YARD IN ONE SEASON.

Karen asks BUT HAVE A GRAND PLAN?
HAVE IT ALL MAPPED OUT AND
SAY THIS YEAR I'M JUST GOING
TO DO THIS?

Frank replies HAVE A
FOCUS, CREATE THAT FOLK US
AND THEN THIS YEAR START OUT
BY DOING A SMALL BED, MAYBE
AROUND THE FRONT BECAUSE
THEN YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE
SUCCESS OUT OF THAT.
IT'S GOING TO BE SMALL AND
REALLY EASY AND YOU'RE GOING
TO LIKE IT.
IF YOU ALL OF A SUDDEN START
TEARING BEDS OUT OF ALL OVER
THE PLACE AND A RETAINING
WALL HERE AND THE POND, THE
HOLE'S DUG BUT YOU HAVEN'T
FINISHED, YOU'RE GOING TO BE
INTIMIDATED AND ALL OF A
SUDDEN YOU'RE GOING TO LOSE
YOUR FOCUS.
PLANNING'S REALLY ESSENTIAL,
SUNLIGHT'S REALLY IMPORTANT,
FIGURE OUT WHAT YOUR
SUNLIGHT IS, WHAT YOUR SOIL
IS AND FIGURE OUT WHAT YOUR
NEEDS ARE.
BECAUSE YOUR PROPERTY IS TO
SUIT YOU.
THAT'S THE THING.
FOR TIME MANAGEMENT, TOO.
MAKE SURE THAT YOU'RE DOING
THINGS WITH THE
IDENTIFICATION THAT I DON'T
HAVE A LOT OF TIME.
I WANT THINGS TO LOOK GOOD
BUT I DON'T HAVE A LOT OF
TIME.
THERE'S A LOT OF WAYS THAT
YOU CAN CREATE SO THAT YOU
CAN ENJOY YOUR GARDEN SPACE.

Karen says YOU'VE MENTIONED QUITE A
FEW THINGS THERE.
SUNLIGHT AND SOIL AND A
MASTER PLAN, BUT ALSO TAKE
INTO ACCOUNT YOUR LIFESTYLE,
AS WELL.
I HADN'T THOUGHT OF THAT.
I MEAN, OBVIOUSLY I WANT MY
GARDEN TO LOOK GORGEOUS BUT
HOW MUCH TIME DO I HAVE IN
TERMS OF MAINTENANCE FOR THE
TYPES OF PLANTS I'M GOING TO
PICK.

Frank says RIGHT.
SOME PEOPLE THINK, TOO, “I'D
LOVE TO HAVE A VEGETABLE
GARDEN.”
WELL, IF YOU'RE ONLY GOING
TO EAT A FEW HEADS OF
LETTUCE DURING THE WHOLE
COURSE OF THE YEAR, THE FOOD
SOARS THAT YOU HAVE IN YOUR
VEGETABLE GARDEN, IF YOU
DON'T USE A LOT OF THOSE YOU
REALLY DON'T NEED THEM.
YOU KNOW, YOU DON'T HAVE THE
TIME MAYBE TO DO IT BECAUSE
VEGETABLE GARDENS DO TAKE
SOMETIME.
AND IT'S REALLY TRYING TO
FIGURE OUT WHAT THE NEEDS
THAT YOU NEED FROM YOUR
GARDEN IS.
AND FROM THERE BE THE ARTIST
AND CREATE COLOUR.

Karen says SCOMPUF TO MAKE
MISTAKES, TOO.
THAT'S WHAT I LEARNED AS A
VEGETABLE GARDENER.
WE HAVE AIN LOTMENT GARDEN
WHICH WE RENTED FROM THE
CITY AND WE PLANTED SIX SUK
KEENEY PLANTS.
I HAD NO IDEA THAT THEY
MAKE -- I MADE SO MANY
LOAVES OF LEMON ZUCCHINI
BREAD THAT SUMMER.
REALLY ONLY NEED ONE BUT
THEY ALSO TAKE UP A LOT OF
SPACE.
SO DO YOU SUGGEST RESEARCH
BEFORE?
HERE YOU'RE MAKING TIPS FOR
SOMEONE WHO MIGHT BE DOING
IT ON THEIR OWN BUT TO FIND
OUT ABOUT THE VARIETY OF
PLANT, HOW MUCH SPACE THEY
NEED.
DO WE ALWAYS NEED A
PROFESSIONAL OR CAN WE USE
THE NET?
READ BOOKS?

Frank says THE
OTHER THING IS, TOO,
NEIGHBOURS THAT HAVE GOOD
GARDEN SPACES, LOOK WHAT
THEY'RE DOING WHAT PLANTS
ARE GROWING WELL IN THEIR
GARDEN.
BECAUSE IT'S RIGHT BESIDE
YOUR HOUSE.
AND FRIENDS THAT HAVE
GARDENED IN THE PAST.
ALL THOSE DIFFERENT KINDS OF
THINGS ARE ALL GOOD SOURCES
OF INFORMATION FOR TO YOU
FIND OUT ABOUT PLANTS.
AND EVEN TAGS, YOU KNOW?
HE grabs a plant and says WHEN GO TO A GARDEN CENTRE,
YOU'RE GOING TO FIND A TAG
THAT HAS ALL THE DIFFERENT
TYPE OF INFORMATION YOU NEED
TO KNOW.
WHERE IT SHOULD BE PLANTED,
THE HEARTINESS, BECAUSE
THERE'S THIS THING CALLED
THE ZONE THAT YOU HAVE TO
KNOW ABOUT, TOO, TO WHERE
IT'S BEST SUITED FOR USE.

A close-up shot features a plant tag.

He continues IS IT A PLANT THAT GROWS
TALL, SHORT, IS IT A GROUND
COVER PLANT?
ALL OF THOSE.
AND IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT TO
KNOW WHAT YOU'RE BUYING.
IT'S KIND OF LIKE A
COMPUTER.
YOU JUST DON'T GO BUY A
COMPUTER.
YOU TRY TO FIGURE OUT WHAT
DO I WANT TO USE THIS
COMPUTER FOR?
WHAT FUNCTION DO I WANT TO
CREATE FOR MY LIFE?
WELL, WHEN YOU BUY A PLANT,
YOU GOT TO SAY WHERE DO I
WANT TO USE THIS PLANT?
WHAT KIND OF LOOK DO I WANT
TO GET FROM THIS PLANT?

Karen says AND WHEN DOES IT
FLOWER SO, IF YOU WANT A
STAGGERED GARDEN THAT HAS
SOMETHING FLOWERING
THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE SEASON,
YOU COULD TRY TO PLANT IT
THAT WAY.
GETS A LITTLE COMPLICATED --

Frank says
EVERYBODY THINKS IT GETS
REALLY COMPLICATED BUT IT
DOESN'T.
IT'S NOT ROCKET SCIENCE.
TRIAL AND ERROR.
IT'S LIKE LIFE, IT'S ALL
FULL OF TRIAL AND ERROR AND
OVER TIME YOU'RE GOING TO
LEARN THINGS AND IT'S
IMPORTANT TO MAKE SURE YOU
SELECT PLANTS THAT YOU'RE
GOING TO GET A LONG DURATION
OF COLOUR AND THAT YOU
CHOOSE THINGS THAT SUIT THE
ENVIRONMENT THAT YOU'RE
PLANTING THEM IN.
THAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT AND
MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE
HEARTY FOR THE ZONE.
AND A ZONE, JUST SO WE MAKE
SURE EVERYBODY OUT THERE
KNOWS, A ZONE TELLS YOU
REALLY THE HEARTINESS.
THE SMALLER THE NUMBER MEANS
IT WOULD GRE REALLY FAR
NORTH FROM HERE.
THE LARGER THE NUMBER, LET'S
SAY ZONE SEVEN, ZONE SIX,
THOSE ARE THINGS FOR THE
NIAGARA REGION, ZONE TEN AND
THINGS LIKE THAT ARE FAR
SOUTH.
THE SMALLER THE NUMBER THE
COLDER THE ZONE, THE LARGER
THE NUMBER THE WARMER THE
ZONE.
AND TRY TO BUY THINGS FOR
YOUR HEARTINESS ZONE,
EXPOSURE, YOU'RE NOT GOING
TO HAVE TO WINTER PROTECT
AND DO ALL THESE OTHER
THINGS THAT ARE GOING TO
CAUSE GARDENING HAVOC.

Karen says AND YOU CAN ASK
ALL THOSE THINGS AT YOUR
GARDEN CENTRE, AND THAT'S
WHAT WE'RE DOING WITH FRANK
TODAY.
CALL WITH YOUR QUESTIONS ASK
ABOUT ZONES OR DESIGNING
YOUR GARDEN, GARDENING
QUESTIONS HERE ON “MORE TO
LIFE” TODAY.
OUR PHONE NUMBER IS IN
TORONTO.
AND OUR GUEST IS
FRANK FERRAGINE, GARDENING
EXPERT.
LET'S START OFF WITH HEALTH
CALLING IN FROM TORONTO WITH
HER QUESTION.
HI HEATHER.

Heather says HI.
FRANK, WHEN SUMMER'S DONE
AND YOU'VE HAD YOUR
ENJOYMENT ENJOYMENT OUT OF
THE GARDEN AND THEN WINTER'S
FACING YOU, WHAT IS IT THAT
WOULD MAKE A GARDEN
INTERESTING?
LIKE ORIENTAL GRASSES OR
SOMETHING THAT IN THE BLEAK
WINTER THAT IT HAS SOME
BONES TO IT OR RED BERRIES
ON THE LIMBS OR ANYTHING
LIKE THAT?

Frank says THERE'S
A WHOLE HOST OF THINGS.
WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT CREATING
WINTER INTEREST IN YOUR
GARDEN, ONE THING YOU SHOULD
ALWAYS DO IS ALWAYS PUT IN A
COUPLE OF EVERGREENS IN YOUR
GARDEN SPACE SO YOU HAVE
WHAT I CALL “CHUNK.”
YOU HAVE CHUNK IN YOUR
GARDEN.
THE OTHER THING, LOOK TO
SHRUBS AND THAT THAT HAVE A
NICE COLOURATION IN THEIR
STEM.
SILVER LEAF DOG WOOD HAS A
NICE TWIG, RED STEM.
THE OTHER THING TO LOOK FOR
IS SHRUBS THAT ACTUALLY HAVE
INTERESTING KIND OF BARK
LIKE A CURLY WILLOW ALMOST
OR EVEN LIKE THE WEEPING
BIRCH, EVEN CORKSCREW HAZEL,
WHICH WOULD DO WELL FOR NEW
TORONTO.
THEY HAVE INTERESTING TYPE
OF STEMS THAT ARE KIND OF
TWIRLED AND THINGS LIKE
THAT.
CREATING AN INTEREST FACTOR.
THE OTHER THING, TOO, ARE
THE ORNAMENTAL GRASSES.
PERFECT, BECAUSE DURING THE
WINTERTIME WHEN THEY SWAY
THAT CREATES A LOT OF
INTEREST, TOO, AND LASTLY,
ALWAYS INVITE BIRDS INTO
YOUR GARDEN DURING THE
WINTERTIMES BECAUSE OF THE
FEEDER BECAUSE THEY'RE GOING
TO ADD MOVEMENT AND COLOUR
IN YOUR GARDEN DURING THE
BLEAK DAYS OF WINTER SO
THERE ARE A LOT OF THINGS
THAT YOU CAN DO, BUT REALLY,
LOOK AT THE BONES OF THE
PLANT WHEN YOU'RE BUYING THE
PLANT AND THEN THAT WILL
GIVE YOU A PICTURE OF WHAT
IT'S GOING TO LOOK LIKE IN
THE WINTER, AND ALWAYS USE A
FEW EVERGREENS, TOO.

Karen says THE CHUNK, EVERGREENS,
CHOOSING TREES, TOO, I
NOTICE SOME OF THE FRUIT
TREES AND TREES IF MY
NEIGHBOURHOOD IN THE WINTER
THEY LOOK ALL KNOBLY AND
SOME OF THE THEM WHEN
THEY'RE CUT BACK THE TREE
CAN LOOK DOWNRIGHT UGLY FOR
THE ENTIRE WINTER.
HOW, WHEN YOU GO TO PICK
YOUR TREES NOW OR SHRUBS
THAT GET THINNER, HOW DO YOU
KNOW WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO
LOOK LIKE IN THE WINTER?

Frank says WELL, EARLY SPRING'S
ALWAYS A GOOD TIME.
IN THE WINTERTIME A LOT OF
THE PLANTS WILL SAY ON THEM,
THERE WILL BE A TAG THAT
SAYS “FOR WINTER INTEREST.”
THINGS LIKE THAT.

Karen says LOOKS UGLY IN
WINTER.

Karen laughs.

Frank says REMEMBER,
BEAUTY IS IN THE EYE OF THE
BEHOLDER.
FRUIT TREES AND THINGS LIKE
THAT DO NEED SOME VIGOROUS
PRUNING, SO YEAH, THEY DON'T
LOOK LIKE A WHOLE LOT, BUT
USING SOME HEART SCAPES
AROUND A FRUIT TREE.
LET'S SAY WE PUT A NICE
LITTLE STATUE THERE TO KIND
OF TAKE AWAY FROM THE FRUIT
TREE THAT'S BEAR AND LOOK AT
THE STATUE THAT'S THERE.
OR, YOU KNOW, ANN ARBOR,
SOMETHING LIKE THAT, TOO,
THAT CREATES DIFFERENT
HEIGHT ELEVATIONS AND ALSO
DIFFERENT SHAPES SO THAT
WHEN SNOW SITS ON IT AND
THINGS LIKE THAT, NICE
LITTLE SILHOUETTES.

Karen says IT DOESN'T LOOK SO
BARREN.

Frank says
EVERGREENS, EXTREMELY
IMPORTANT.
YES, THEY DO GIVE US SOME
FULLNESS TO OUR GARDEN
DURING THE WINTERTIME AND
ALSO EVERGREENS ARE REALLY
REQUIRED IF YOU DO TO WANT
ATTRACT BIRDS BECAUSE THEY
HIDE IN THE EVERGREEN FOR
PROTECTION AND THEN GO OUT
AND THE FEEDER AND FEED.

Karen turns to the computer and reads “I HAVE A
SEMI-SHADED FLAG STONE PATH,
THAT I'VE BEEN UNABLE TO
GROW ANYTHING BETWEEN THE
STEINS.
WOULD IRISH OR SCOTCH MOSS
BE A GOOD CHOICE?
WOULD THEY BE SLIPPERY TO
WALK ON IN AND DO YOU HAVE A
RECOMMENDATION?
THAT'S FROM PATTY.

Frank says WELL PAT
PATTY, SCOTCH MOSS IS REALLY
GOOD.
IT'S NOT THAT SLIPPERY.
ANY TIME YOU HAVE PLANT LIFE
AND STONE AND MOISTURE, YES,
YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE A
LITTLE BIT OF A SLIPPERY
AREA SO THAT'S A CONCERN.
THE OTHER THING THAT'S
REALLY NICE, TOO, IS THE ONE
I HAVE RIGHT BESIDE IT HERE
WHICH IS WOOLLY THYME.
WOOLLY THYME IS REALLY EASY
TO GROW AND WILL GROW
BETWEEN FLAG STONE AND PATIO
WALK, ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
AND THE OTHER THING THAT'S
REALLY NICE ABOUT THYME, TOO,
WHEN YOU STEP OVER THYME
YOU'RE GOING TO GET A NICE
LITTLE FRAGRANCE THERE, TOO.
DOESN'T MATTER IF YOU STEP
ON, CUT IT WITH THE LAWN
MOWER, THYMES ARE REALLY
EASY TO GROW.
IT'LL COVER UP FULL AREAS
AND IT'S A GOOD SELECTION.
MOSS ON THE OTHER HAND,
DURING DRY PERIODS THIS MOSS
THAT'S RIGHT HERE DURING A
DRY PERIOD WILL ACTUALLY DRY
OUT WHERE THE WOOLLY THYME
IS FAIRLY DROUGHT-TOLERANT.

Karen says CAN I SMELL THE
TIME?
WHEN YOU WALK PAST IT --

Frank says YEAH,
YOU JUST GOT TO CRUSH IT.

Karen says AND THAT'S A NICE
THICK MOSS THERE SO IF
YOU'RE LOOKING FOR
SOMETHING --

Frank says WHAT I
LIKE THE SCOTCH MOSS FOR IS
WHEN YOU HAVE IT IN BETWEEN
STONES AND IT MAKES IT LOOK
REALLY NATURAL.
AND GROUND COVERS ARE REALLY
POPULAR RIGHT NOW AND WHAT'S
NICE IS, YOU KNOW, THE
WOOLLY TIME'S ARE GREY
COVER.
SCOTCH MOSS IS MOF A LIMEY
GREEN, AND YOU MIX THOSE
COLOURS IN IN BLOCKS AND IT
ADDS INTEREST FACTOR AND
COLOUR THERE TO A SPACE THAT
MIGHT HAVE BEEN BORG BEFORE.

Karen says THAT SOUNDS GOOD
FOR PATTY.
LET'S GO TO NATALIE NEXT.
SHE'S CALLINGING FROM
BRACEBRIDGE.
HI NATALIE.

Natalie says HI.
I HAVE A QUESTION FOR FRANK.
I'M TRYING TO START A GARDEN
IN MY FRONT.
IT'S A VERY SHADEY AREA IN
MY FRONT YARD.
IT'S ACTUALLY AGAINST THE
HOUSE, AND I'M JUST
WONDERING HOW MUCH TOPSOIL
DO I NEED TO -- I'M THINKING
OF PLANTING LIKE HOST STAYS,
AND I'M JUST WONDERING HOW
MUCH TOPSOIL DO I NEED FOR A
GOOD BASE FOR IT?
AND WHAT DO I NEED TO DO TO
PREPARE IT?

Frank says FOR A
GOOD BASE YOU'RE GOING TO
NEED AT LEAST SIX INCHES OF
TOPSOIL.
THE MORE THE SOIL, THE
BETTER IT IS.
REMEMBER SOIL IS THE BASIC
BUILDING BLOCK TO A GOOD
GARDEN.
SO THE MORE GOOD SOIL YOU
HAVE, THE BETTER A SUCCESS
THAT YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE.
A GOOD SOIL TO USE, TOO, IS
NOT JUST THE TOPSOIL BUT
SOMETHING LIKE A TRI-MIX,
WHICH IS A THREE-IN-ONE MIX,
A MIXTURE OF MANURE AND LOAM
AND TOPSOIL.
SO THAT MANURE IS ORGANIC
MATTER THAT WILL IMPROVE IT
IF YOU'RE TRYING TO FIGURE
OUT HOW MUCH SOIL YOU NEED
FOR A SPACE THERE IS A
FORMULA YOU CAN USE.
I DON'T KNOW IF ANYBODY'S
GOING TO REMEMBER THIS ONE
BUT IF YOU TAKE THE LENGTH
TIMES THE WIDTH OF YOUR
SPACE IN FEET, TIMES THE
DEPTH IN INCHES, SO LENGTH
TIMES WIDTHTH IN FEET, DEPTH
IN INCHES, DIVIDE BY 12,
DIVIDE AGAIN BY 27, THAT'S
GOING TO GIVE YOU HOW MANY
CUBIC YARDS YOU'RE GOING TO
NEED --

Karen says DID YOU JUST MAKE
THAT UP?

Frank says NO, NO.

Karen laughs and says DIVIDE BY TWELVE
AND DIVIDE BY 27.

Frank says SO
LENGTH TIMES FEET IN WIDTH,
TIMES DEPTH IN INCHES,
DIVIDE BY 12, DIVIDE AGAIN
BY 27 WILL GIVE YOU CUBIC
YARDS AND WHEN YOU CALL THAT
PERSON UP AND THEY SAY HOW
MANY YARDS OF SOIL DO YOU
NEED, YOU CAN ACTUALLY SAY
AT THAT TIME MY SPACE IS TEN
FEET BY 30, AND THEN I WANT
TO GO SIX INCHES, SO TIMES
ALL THAT TOGETHER, DIVIDE BY
12, DIVIDE BY 27 THAT'LL
GIVE YOU HOW MANY CUBIC
YARDS YOU NEED.
MAKE SURE YOU USE A THE OF
GOOD SOIL.
AT LEAST SIX INCHES AND FOR
PREPARATION OF THAT YOU GOT
TO PAY ATTENTION TO DO I
WANT TO MAKE IT A RAISED
BED?
AND IF YES, I DO, MAKE SURE
YOU USE SOME STONES SO WHEN
RAINFALL COMES IT'S NOT
GOING TO WASH IT AWAY.
MAKE SURE YOU PAY ATTENTION
TO ANYWAYS OF RETAINING A
SLOPE.

Karen says AND NATALIE'S
CHOOSING HOST STAYS FOR A
SHADED AREA.
IS IT TRUE THAT HOSTA'S, A
PERENNIAL, LIKES TO BE
ROUGHED UP?
IT'S ONE OF THE MOST HARDY
PERENNIALS YOU CAN GET?

Frank says FOR
SHADEY AREAS, HOST STAYS ARE
REALLY GOOD AND THEY CAN
TAKE A LOT OF ABUSE.
IF YOU WANT TO GET HOSTAS'S,
THE EASIEST WAY IS TO GO TO
YOUR FRIEND AND TAKE A CHUNK
OFF.

Karen says WE DID THAT AND
THEY SAID IT'S ALMOST
IMPOSSIBLE TO KILL IT REALLY
IS THAT TOUGH.

Frank says THEY ARE REALLY
TOUGH.
THE ONLY THING ABOUT HOSTAS
THAT PEOPLE FIND, THERE'S
ONE INSECT THAT REALLY LIKES
HOSTAS AND THAT'S A SLUG.
USUALLY WHEN YOU HAVE HOSTAS
BECAUSE THEY'RE IN A SHADED
MOIST AREA, SO WHEREVER YOU
GET THEM, YOU USUALLY GET
SLUGS AND YOU CAN GET A LOT
OF SLUG DAMAGE ASK THERE ARE
A LOT OF WAYS YOU CAN
CONTROL SLUGS.

Karen says AND WE CAN GET TO
THAT.
ONE MORE QUICK QUESTION
ABOUT HOSTAS.
THEY DO FLOWER, RIGHT?

Frank says THEY DO.

Karen says AT THE END OF THE
SEASON?

Frank says THEY
USUALLY A WHITISH BLOOM TO
THEM --

Karen says DO YOU HAVE ANY
WITH YOU?
THAT LOOKED LIKE ONE OVER
THERE.

Frank says THIS IS
ONE RIGHT HERE, ACTUALLY.
THIS ONE HERE IS CALLED --
IT'S NEW THIS YEAR, IT'S
CALLED “GREAT EXPECTATIONS.”
AND WHAT'S NICE ABOUT HOSTAS
ARE THEY DO FLOWER BUT
OUTSIDE OF THEIR FLOWER
WHAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT IS
THE LEAF COLOUR YOU GET.
YOU CAN SEE THIS IS GREEN
WITH A VARIEGATED YELLOW.

Karen says I LOVE THE PLANT
NAMES, TOO “GREAT
EXPECTATIONS.”
AND A REALLY THICK STALK
THERE.

Frank says THESE
HOSTAS COME IN MULTIPLE
COLOURS FROM GREEN LEAVES TO
BLUE LEAVES, YELLOW AND
GREEN TO GREEN AND WHITE.
FROM LEAVES THAT ARE AS
SMALL AS REALLY REALLY TINY
TO LEAVES -- THERE'S ONE
VARIETY CALLED BIG DADDY AND
BIG DADDY HAS THIS HUGE HUGE
LEAF BUT WHAT'S NICE IS IN A
SHADED SPOT WITH SMALL AND
LARGE LEAVES, YOU CAN CREATE
COLOUR THROUGH TEXTURE.

Karen says HOW ABOUT THE SLUG
THEN?
WHAT DO YOU SUGGEST KEEPING
THEM AWAY OTHER THAN
STOMPING ON THEM WHEN YOU
SEE THEM?

Frank says THE
THING WITH SLUGS IS THEY'RE
ALWAYS GOING TO COME TO THAT
DARK COOL AREA.
THERE ARE ORGANICS YOU CAN
USE.
THERE'S A NEW PRODUCT NOW
CALLED SLUG AND SMAIL BAIT.

He shows a small green, white and blue cardboard box.

Karen says AND THAT'S A GREAT
PICTURE OF WHAT THEY LOOK
LIKE.

Frank says AND THE
THING IS IT'S TOTALLY
ORGANIC.
SO YOU DON'T HAVE TO WORRY
ABOUT PETS, CHILDREN,
WILDLIFE, ANYTHING LIKE
THAT.
THE OTHER THING YOU CAN DO,
TOO, IF YOU WANT TO GET RID
OF SLUGS AND HAVE SOME FUN
IS YOU CAN DO SOMETHING
CALLED A SLUG PUB AND YOU
TAKE A MARGARINE CONTAINER,
SINK IT DOWN TO GROUND LEVEL
AND FILL IT UP WITH BEER AND
EVERY MORNING THE SLUGS WALK
IN AND GET DRUG AND DIE.

Karen says I HEAR THAT WORKS
WITH EARWIGS, TOO.

Frank says EARWIGS
WILL CAULK GHAUK THERE TOO.

Karen says GREAT WAY TO DIE.

Frank says BUT
THOSE TYPES OF THING, THERE
ARE OTHER WAYS TO GET RID OF
SLUGS.
THE OTHER THINGS YOU CAN DO,
CRUSHED EGG SHELLS AROUND
THE BASE OF THE PLANTS WILL
PREVENT THEM FROM COME BUT
IF YOU HAVE A SLUG PROBLEM,
AS SOON AS YOU START SEEING
HOLES, THAT'S THE TIME YOU
SAY TO YOURSELF “I HAVE TO
TRY TO PREVENT THIS FROM
OCCURRING” SO USE THINGS
LIKE A SLUG BAIT OR THE SLUG
PUB OR CRUSHED EGG SHELLS --

Karen says AND THEY'LL CRAWL
OVER THAT MARGARINE
CONTAINER AND INTO THE BEER.
LET'S GO TO ED NEXT, A
QUESTION CALLING IN FROM
LONDON.
HI ED.

Ed says HI FRANK.
I'VE GOT A QUESTION
REGARDING CRABGRASS.
LAST FALL I TOP SEEDED MY
BACK LAWN WITH I THINK IT
WAS A TRI-MIX MIXTURE AND
PUT SOME GRASS SEED OVER IT,
AND IT WAS SORT OF LIKE A
CANADA NUMBER ONE GENERAL
ALL PURPOSE SEED.
ANYWAY THIS SPRING I'VE GOT
A TREMENDOUS PROBLEM WITH
CRABGRASS.
GROWING UP ALL OVER THE
PLACE, GROWS FASTER THAN
REGULAR GRASS.
THE FOLLOWING DAY AFTER YOU
CUT IT IT'S UP THERE AGAIN
AT A DIFFERENT LEVEL THAN
THE REGULAR GRASS.
LOOKS UNSIGHTLY, IT'S A
COARSE GRASS, SPREADS BY
RISHOMES, THERE'S A
TREMENDOUS AMOUNT AND MY
LAWN LOOKS JUST DREADFUL.
WHAT WOULD YOU RECOMMEND
THAT I DO?

Frank says THE PROCESS YOU'VE BEEN
DOING NOW WITH HAND REMOVAL
IS THE ONLY WAY YOU CAN GET
RID OF QUACK GRASS WITHOUT
KILLING OFF OTHER GRASS
THERE.
QUACK GRASS IS SO CLOSELY
RELATED TO YOUR LAWN AS A
PLANT THAT ANY TYPE OF
HERBICIDE YOU WOULD SPRAY
WOULD ALSO KILL YOUR OTHER
GRASS, TOO.
THE THING THAT'S BAD, YOU'RE
KIND OF IN A CATCH-22
SITUATION.
IT'S A GRASS-TYPE PLANT AND
ANY HERBICIDE YOU USE TO
KILL GRASS-TYPE PLANTS WILL
KILL THE REMAINING ONES.
THE ONLY OTHER SOLUTION IS
HAND REMOVAL BUT THE OTHER
THING YOU CAN DO, THE BAD
AREAS, YOU SPRAY IT WITH A
NON-SELECTIVE HERBICIDE,
THAT'LL KILL EVERYTHING IN
THAT AREA AND THEN YOU HAVE
TO RECEDE.
THERE'S NO EASY METHOD TO
GET RID OF IT AND YES INDEED,
QUACK GRASS IS A PROBLEM AND
IT'S REALLY SOMETHING
UNPLEASING TO --

Karen says BUT HAND REMOVAL,
GO YOU'VE GOT A SUBSTANTIAL
LAWN THAT IS TIME CONSUMING.

Frank says IT IS,
AND IT'S A PART OF GARDENING
EVERY ONCE IN A WHILE.
UNFORTUNATELY LIVING THINGS
ARE NOT ALL DESIRED PLANTS
AND SOMETIMES YOU DO HAVE
WEEDS AND IF YOU WANT TO GO
ORGANICALLY OR YOU HAVE A
PLANT RELATED TO THE SAME
TYPE OF PLANT IN OTHER AREAS
YOU CAN'T SPRAY IN THAT
AREA.
YOU'RE GOING TO KILL
EVERYTHING YOU HAVE.

Karen says HNS BRINGS UP THE
QUESTION OF HERBICIDES AND
PESTICIDES, AGAIN, AND THE
SLUG SOLUTION THERE, YOU
MENTIONED WAS ORGANIC.
THERE'S SOME CONTROVERSY
SURROUNDING THE STORY OUT OF
HALIFAX WHERE THE CITY
COUNCIL THERE IS LOOKING AT
BANNING PESTICIDES ON LAWNS.
THAT IS A MOVEMENT THAT IS,
COULD HAVE THE POTENTIAL TO
GROW ACROSS THE COUNTRY.
WHAT'S YOUR VIEW ON THAT?
DO YOU THINK THAT'S A GOOD
TREND?

Frank says IT
DEPENDS ON WHAT'S HAPPENING
IN THE AREA.
I THINK ORGANICS CAN BE DONE,
BUT ORGANIC, YOU HAVE TO
THINK OF THE WAY OF ORGANICS.
ORGANICS IS NATURAL AND
EVERYTHING IN NATURE IS NOT
PERFECT SO IF WE ARE GOING
TO GO WITH ORGANICS AND NOT
HAVE PESTICIDES AND
HERBICIDES, I KNOW OTHER
MUNICIPALITIES OUTSIDE OF
HALIFAX ARE DOING THAT, TOO.
IF YOU'RE NOT USING THOSE
WHAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE IS
YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE A GRASS
THAT HAS DANDELIONS IN IT.
YOU WILL HAVE BUG DAMAGE.
BUT THAT'S ALL IN
ACCEPTANCE.
NATURE'S NOT PERFECT, AND BY
HAVING NATURAL ENVIRONMENTS,
THAT YOU KNOW, YOU WON'T
HAVE A PERFECT GREEN LITTLE
GRASS THERE, I THINK IT'S A
GOOD THING, BUT I ALSO THINK
THAT SOMETIMES ORGANICS --
WHAT PEOPLE THINK IS AN
ORGANIC IS ACTUALLY A
CHEMICAL IN ITSELF.
A LOT OF ORGANIC PRODUCTS,
HOME REMEDIES, LIKE RHUBARB
LEAVES THAT YOU BOIL DOWN
AND YOU USE ON YOUR PLANTS,
WELL MOST CHEMICALS ARE
DERIVED FROM PLANTS.
He laughs and continues AND YOU KNOW, THERE ARE
POISE SONS.
SOME OF THE ORGANICS CAN BE
POISONOUS, TOO.
I THINK THE BEST WAY TO DO
IT IS TO, YOU KNOW, DO
THINGS IN MODERATION, AND TO
ALSO, I THINK IT'S A GOOD
THING IN PUBLIC SPACES,
THOUGH, THAT IF WE DON'T
HAVE TO USE A PESTICIDE, IF
THERE IS AN ORGANIC SOLUTION,
I THINK THAT SHOULD BE THE
FIRST METHOD.

Karen says BUT HOW DANGEROUS
ARE PESTICIDES TO ANIMALS
AND CHILDREN?
TO LISTEN TO THE INDUSTRY
THEY SAY IT'S 100 PERCENT SAFE AND
SO WIDELY USED --

Frank says MOST
CHEMICALS YOU CAN BUY AT A
GARDEN CENTRE HAVE BEEN
APPROVED ABOUTED BY
PROVINCIAL AND FEDERAL
GOVERNMENTS AND HAVE TO HAVE
LICENSING.
SO THEY GO THROUGH VIGOROUS
TESTS TO MAKE SURE THEY'RE
SAFE FOR PEOPLE TO APPLY BUT
THEN AGAIN, YOU ARE USING A
CHEMICAL.
AND BECAUSE IT IS A CHEMICAL,
THERE IS DANGER.
IT'S LIKE SPRAY PAINTING.
YOU KNOW, SPRAY PAINTS ARE A
CHEMICAL.
THEY'RE DANGEROUS.
IT'S JUST A DIFFERENT TYPE
OF CHEMICAL THAT'S THERE.
BUT THERE'S ALL PREVENTIVE
WAYS TO BE SAFE WITH DOING
THAT FOR INSTANCE, IF YOU'RE
USING A CHEMICAL AFTER
YOU'RE USING IT MAKE SURE
YOU WASH YOUR HAND WITH COLD
WATER, NOT WARM.
WARM WATER OPENS YOUR POURS.
MAKE SURE YOU SPRAY ON AN
EVENING THERE'S NOT A LOT OF
WIND SO THE OVERSPRAY'S NOT
BLOWING INTO A PERSON'S
BACKYARD WHERE THE CHILDREN
MIGHT BE PLAYING.
MAKE SURE YOU WEAR A HAT,
LONG SLEEVED SHIRT AND
GLOVES TO PROTECT YOURSELF.
ALL THOSE WAYS, I THINK IT'S
MORE OF YES, THERE IS DANGER
AND I THINK THERE'S DANGER
IN EVERYTHING WE DO EVERY
DAY, BUT I THINK IT'S, YOU
KNOW, RESPECTING THAT DANGER
AND DOING THINGS THAT WILL
PREVENT ANY PROBLEMS FROM
OCCURRING.
AND IF FOR ANYBODY OUT THERE
THAT EVER HAS A PROBLEM WITH
AN INSECTICIDE, A CHEMICAL
OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT WRITE
IN YOUR TELEPHONE BOOK, I
THINK IT'S THE SECOND OR
THIRD PAGE, THERE'S THE
POISON INFORMATION NUMBER
RIGHT THERE, IT'S A 1-800
NUMBER.
IF YOU EVER HAVE A PROBLEM
MAKE SURE YOU USE THAT, AND
ALSO FOR PEOPLE OUT THERE
THAT DO HAVE CHEMICALS MAKE
SURE THEY ARE CLEARLY MARKED
AND THAT THEY'RE IN A HIGH
SPACE THAT CHILDREN CAN'T
GET TO.

Karen says RIGHT, MAKE SURE
THEY'RE BEHIND LOCKED DOORS
OR HIGH SPACES.
She turns to the computer and reads “EVERY YEAR I PLANT MORNING
GLORIES AND DAISIES IN
PODS” -- IN POTS.
AND EVERY YEAR I SEE MY
MORNING GLORIES DOUGH AND
DIE QUICKLY.
THEY NEVER GROW LUSH AND MY
DAISIES FROM SEEDS NEVER
GROW.
IF I BUY THEM ALREADY
STARTED FOR ME THEY DIE OFF.
WHAT AM I DOING WRONG?!
I HAVE MY PLANTS FACING THE
WEST.

Frank says FACING
THE WEST SO THE THING IS
WITH A WEST FACING AREA
YOU'RE GOING TO GET A LOT OF
LIGHT FOR THAT AREA AND
PROBABLY IT'S GOING TO BE
FAIRLY DRICHLT MAYBE WHAT'S
HAPPENING TOO IS MAYBE
YOU'RE NOT BEING THAT GOOD
OF A WATERER.
NUMBER ONE, MAKE SURE YOU
WATER MORNING OR EVENING AND
DURING A SUNNY, WINDY DAY
YOU MIGHT EVEN HAVE TO WATER
PLANTS TWICE.
ANY TIME YOU HAVE A PROBLEM
WITH PLANTS, THE FIRST PLACE
TO LOOK IS AT YOUR SOIL AND
MAKE SURE THAT YOUR SOIL IS
A GOOD SOIL THAT HAS THE
ABILITY TO RETAIN MOISTURE,
BUT ALSO HAS THE ABILITY TO
DRY OUT.
THAT'S NOT LIKE A CLAY-BASED
SOIL BECAUSE THEY MIGHT BE
SITTING TOO WET SO WHAT I
WOULD DO TO MAKE SURE YOU'RE
GOING TO HAVE A GOOD GARDEN
THIS YEAR, MAKE SURE YOU
IMPROVE THE SOIL THAT'S
THERE.
THE OTHER THING TO DO, TOO,
IS TO MULCH THOSE AREAS
BECAUSE IT WILL RETAIN
MOISTURE AND KEEMT ROOTS
COOL OF THE PLANTS WHICH
SHOULD HELP THEM GROW ON.

Karen says THESE PLANTS ARE
IN CONTAINERS SO WITH
CONTAINER GARDENING DO YOU
RECOMMEND STARTING FROM
SCRATCH WITH NEW SOIL EVERY
SEASON?
WHEN I PLANT MY GERANIUMS IN
POTS I USUALLY DUMP OUT THE
OLD SOIL AND PUT IN NEW
STUFF.

Frank says THAT'S
NOT A BAD IDEA, THEN YOU'RE
GOING TO MAKE SURE YOU DON'T
HAVE DISEASE FROM LAST YEAR,
YOU CAN USE THAT OLD SOIL
INTO THE GARDEN BEDS --

Karen says IT'S VERY
EXPENSIVE, AND I OFTEN THINK
CAN I CUT CORNERS BY
RECYCLING DIRT.

Frank says WELL,
THE OTHER THING THAT'S
IMPORTANT THAT I SHOULD HAVE
MENTIONED, TOO, I FORGOT THE
CONTAINER PART, MENTION THAT
IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT WHEN
YOU'RE PLANTING ANNUALS OR
ANYTHING IN A CONTAINER THAT
YOU USE A POTTING SOIL.
THAT YOU DON'T USE TRIPLE
MIX OR GARDEN SOIL.
BECAUSE TRIPLE MIX OR GARDEN
SOIL IS SUCH A HEAVY MEDIUM
IT DOESN'T ALLOW PLANTS TO
DRY OUT AND KIND OF GO
THROUGH ROOT ROT.
KIND OF --

Karen says I'VE BEEN DOING
THAT FOR YEARS, ALWAYS USING
THE TRIPLE MIX I DO FOR THE
GARDEN.

Frank says IT'S
ALWAYS A GOOD IDEA TO USE
POTTING SOIL, REPLENISH THE
SOIL AND USE NEW SOIL EVERY
YEAR.
BUT THE OTHER THING, TOO,
LET'S SAY YOU HAVE BIG POTS,
AND YOU KNOW, THAT'S A LOT
OF SOIL, A LOT OF EXPENSE.
WHAT YOU CAN DO ON THE
BOTTOM OF YOUR POTS WHICH
CREATES DRAINAGE AND SAVES
YOU MONEY, YOU CAN TAKE
WATER BOTTLES AND STICK THEM
IN THE BOTTLE OF YOUR --
BOTTOM OF YOUR POT, IT
CREATES DRAINAGE AND A SPACE
YOU DON'T NEED ALL THAT
SOIL --

Karen says BETTER THAN STONES?

Frank says WELL IT
MAKES THE POTS LIGHTER.

Karen says GOOD TRICK!

Frank says SO IF
YOU'RE MOVING THEM AROUND --
SAVE MONEY, GREAT DRAIN AGE
AND MAKES THE POTS LIGHTER.

Karen says GOOD LUCK.
LET'S GO TO JOY NEXT CALLING
FROM WELLAND.
HI JOY.

Joy says HI!
WOW, I'M SO GLAD TO GET ON.
I HAD A DOCTOR RUPAL CLEMATIS
AND I NOTICED YESTERDAY IT
WAS A LITTLE WILTED, TODAY I
THINK IT'S DEAD.

Frank says WELL
THAT, THAT DOESN'T SOUND TOO
HAPPY OF A PLANT.

Karen says NO.
DO YOU KNOW THE VARIETY?

Frank says YES I
DO.
THE THING WITH CLEMATIS ARE
THAT ARE VERY IMPORTANT,
THEY LIKE A SUNNY TOP AND A
SHADED BOTTOM.
WHAT YOU HAVE TO DO FOR A
CLEMATIS MAKE SURE IT'S
PLANTED IN SUN BUT THEN MAKE
SURE THE ROOTS ARE SHADED SO
WHAT YOU SHOULD DO IS EITHER
PLANT A NICE LITTLE
PERENNIAL GROUND COVER
AROUND THE BASE OF IT OR YOU
WHAT DO IS YOU PUT SOME
MULCH AROUND THE BASE TO
KEEP THE ROOTS COOL.
SO LET'S SAY THAT IT WASN'T,
LET'S SAY THAT IT HAD A
SUNNY TOP BUT NOT A SHADED
BOTTOM, COULD CAUSE A WILT
AND THINGS LIKE THAT THE
NEXT THING YOU SHOULD LOOK
AT, TOO, IS THE LEAVES ON
THE PLANTS AND SEE IF THERE
WAS ANY INSECT OR DISEASE
THAT MIGHT BE AFFECTING IT.
THE BEST THING TO DO TO TRY
TO DETERMINE WHAT MIGHT BE
AFFECTING IT IS TAKE ONE OF
THOSE LEAVES, PUT IT IN A
NICE ELASTIC BAG THAT'S
SEALED AND GO TO A LOCAL
GARDEN CENTRE AND ASK ONE OF
THEIR PEOPLE FOR ADVICE.
MAKE SURE IT'S IN A SEALED
CONTAINER SO WHEN YOU WALK
INTO A GARDEN CENTRE YOU'RE
NOT BRINGING INSECTS INTO
THAT GARDEN CENTRE.

Karen says YOU HAVE A
CLEMATIS WITH YOU.
WHAT VARIETY IS THAT?

Frank says THAT
ONE'S CALLED A BARONS.
IT'S A WHITE BLOOMING
CLEMATIS.
THEY'RE EXCELLENT BECAUSE
THEY GIVE US A NICE VERTICAL
DIMENSION.
THEY ALLOW TO US GARDEN UP
INSTEAD OF OUT, AND THEY
GIVE US NICE COLOUR.
THEY LIKE SUNNY AREAS,
SHADED BOTTOMS -- SO YOU GOT
TO MAKE SURE THE ROOTS ARE
SHADED.

He shows a tall plant with white flowers.

Frank continues THE OTHER THING THEY LIKE IS
AN ALKALINE SOIL, NOT AN
ACIDIC AREA.
THEY ALSO COME IN A MULTIPLE
OF COLOURS.
EVERYTHING FROM WHITE TO
PURPLE TO A RED AND WHITE.
SO YOU CAN DO A LOT OF
THINGS.
BUT THEY DO-THEY'RE NOT
SELF-CLINGING SO THEY DO
NEED A TERRELL HIS.
WHEREVER YOU'RE PUTTING
CLEMATIS, REMEMBER YOU HAVE
TO PUT A TERRELL HIS SO,
REMEMBER IT'S SUITED FOR A
TRELLIS, TOO.

Karen says YOU CAN PUT IT UP
AGAINST A CHAIN LINK FENCE.
I NOTICE WHEN IT COMES TO
CLEMATIS, MY DAD AND MY
MOTHER-IN-LAW ARE PASSIONATE
ABOUT THEIR CLEMATIS.
THEY JUST TALK ABOUT IT AS
IF IT'S THE JEWEL OF THEIR
GARDEN.

Frank says YEAH,
SOME PEOPLE CALL THEM
CLEMATIS OR SOME PEOPLE CALL
THEM CLE-MATE-USSSSS...
He chuckles and continues
THEY GIVE US A LOT OF
COLOUR, AND THEY'RE
SOMETHING TO BE PROUD ABOUT.
IF IT'S BEAUTIFUL AND
CREATES BEAUTY IN YOUR
GARDEN, WHEREY NOT BRAG
ABOUT IT?

Karen says YOU NOTICE THAT
I'M SHARING YOUR FIELD WHEN
IT COMES TO THE GARDENING,
THE PASSION IS THERE.
THEY CAN BE A FAIRLY MUTED
PERSONALITY BUT WHEN IT
COMES TO THEIR GARDEN THEIR
EYES SPARKLE AND YOU CAN
TELL CANADIANS ARE EMBRACING
THIS HOBBY MORE AND MORE.

Frank says IT'S
CANADA'S NUMBER ONE PHYSICAL
OUTDOOR LEISURE ACTIVITY.
IT'S BEEN GROWING AND
GROWING AND GROWING.
IT IS PASSIONATE BECAUSE
IT'S ONE OF THE ONLY WAYS
THAT WE CAN, YOU KNOW, GET
BACK TO NATURE AND WE CAN
BECOME AN ARTIST IN OUR
BACKYARD.
IT'S A WAY WE CAN TAKE A
PALETTE OF PROPERTY AND
CREATE OUR OWN BEAUTY AND
WHEN WE'RE ENTERTAINING,
HAVING FRIENDS OVER, YOU CAN
BRAG ABOUT YOUR SUCCESS.
YOU CAN SAY “LOOK WHAT I
PLANTED.”
AND THE OTHER THING YOU CAN
DO WITH GARDENING IS BY
SHARING PLANTS, TOO, SHARING
PERENNIALS, YOU CAN CREATE
NEW FRIENDS AND --.

Karen says IN THE
NEIGHBOURHOOD, YOU GET
TALKING OVER THE FENCE WITH
IT BUT CAN YOU BE AN ARTIST
WITH A PETE TUNE I CAN'T?
MAIRG GOLDS AND PETUNIA'S
ARE THE LOW END OF THE
CREATIVITY?

Karen says NO, I DON'T THINK
THERE'S LOW END AT ALL.
COLOUR IS THE MAIN THING.
THIS IS A WAVE PETUNIA,
WHICH IS FAIRLY NEW IN THE
LAST FIVE YEARS, AND THIS IS
A TRAILING ONE, COLOUR IS
IMPORTANT AND I DON'T THINK
YOU SHOULD BE WORRIED ABOUT
“I PLANT MARIGOLDS” OR ONE
PERSON HAS AN ORCHID
COLLECTION.
I THINK ONE THING IS THAT
WE'RE ALL DIFFERENT LEVELS
OF GARDENERS, ALL HAVE
DIFFERENT INTERESTS AND IT'S
LIKE SOME PEOPLE COLLECT
STAMPS AND SOME PEOPLE
COLLECT HOSTAS.
I THINK GARDENING,
ANYBODY -- IF YOU GARDEN,
YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE BENEFIT,
BECAUSE YOU'RE GOING ENJOY
WHAT YOU'RE DOING,
HOPEFULLY.
SOME PEOPLE OUT THERE DON'T
ENJOY IT.
THE OTHER THING YOU'RE GOING
TO DO, TOO, IS INCREASE YOUR
PROPERTY VALUE BY MAKE THE
BEAUTY OF YOUR HOME MORE.
WHAT'S INTERESTING, TOO, IS
I WAS JUST IN CALIFORNIA,
LOOKING AT THE NEW VARIETIES
OF ANNUALS FOR NEXT YEAR,
2001, AND I MET WITH BLAND
BREEDERS.
AND I ASKED THEM, I SAID
“WHAT DO YOU THINK OF
YOURSELF?”
AND THEY SAID THAT THEY'RE
SCIENTISTS AND ARTISTS.
THROUGH SCIENCE THEY'RE
CREATING COLOUR AROUND THE
WORLD.

Karen says THEY'RE NOT JUST
PEDALLING PLANTS.
THESE PEOPLE CONSIDER IT --
TAKE IT VERY SERIOUSLY.

Frank says PLANTS
ARE SERIOUS.
THEY'RE FUN, THEY'RE
SERIOUS, AND YOU KNOW IN
ENGLAND RIGHT NOW THERE'S A
BIG PROBLEM IN ENGLAND RIGHT
NOW.
I READ IT THE OTHER DAY.
SCOTLAND YARD HAS A DIVISION
THERE THAT THEY HAVE SET UP
BECAUSE PEOPLE'S PLANTS ARE
GETTING STOLEN ALL OVER
ENGLAND.
SO THEY HAVE A DIVISION IN
SCOTLAND YARD JUST FOR
PLANTS THAT HAVE BEEN
STOLEN.

Karen says PLANT NAPPERS.

She laughs.

Frank says YEAH, SO
IT'S VERY SERIOUS AND MAKE
SURE YOU PROTECT YOUR
PLANTS.

Karen says ANNETTE IS CALLING
IN FROM CORNWALL.
HI ANNETTE.

Annette says HI KAREN AND
FRANK.
QUESTION, I BOUGHT A FLOX
LAST YEAR WHICH IS SUPPOSED
TO BE A PERENNIAL AND
APPARENTLY THEY'RE SUPPOSED
TO SPREAD.
MINE HASN'T SPREAD NOR HAS
IT BLOOMED YET AND EVERYBODY
ELSE'S AROUND HERE LOOK
BEAUTIFUL.
WHAT'S WRONG WITH IT OR WHAT
AM I DOING WRONG?

Karen says I HAVE THIS
PROBLEM!
MINE IS LATE, TOO.
WHY WOULD THAT BE?

Frank says WELL
SOMETIMES, YOU KNOW, YOU
JUST PLANTED IT LAST YEAR
AND IT MIGHT BE ESTABLISHING
ITSELF.
USUALLY IN THE FIRST OR
SECOND SEASON YOU'RE NOT
GOING TO HAVE A FULL, LOVELY
PLANT BUT SOMETIMES YOU DO.
YOU SHOULD ALWAYS MAKE SURE
YOU LOOK AT YOUR SOIL, PLANT
IT IN A GOOD SOIL, AND THE
THING, IS YOU ARE DEALING
WITH A LIVING THING SO
SOMETIMES MAYBE THAT PLANT
DIDN'T HAVE A GREAT WINTER.
MAYBE SNOW FALL WASN'T THERE
ENOUGH TO INSULATE IT AND
THINGS LIKE THAT.
AND MAYBE, YES INDEED, MAYBE
IT DID DIE.
THAT SHOULDN'T DISCOURAGE
YOU FROM DOING IT AGAIN
BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, LIVING
THINGS DO DIE.
THE OTHER THING THOUGH THAT
YOU MUST PAY ATTENTION TO IS
THAT THAT FLOX IN THE SPRING
DOES LIKE A LOT OF SUNLIGHT
AND IT'S THE SUNLIGHT THAT
ACTUALLY MAKES IT GROW AND
BLOOM EARLY ON.

Karen says AND IF YOU'RE
STILL WITH US, WHERE EXACTLY
DID YOU PLANT IT IN YOUR
GARDEN?

Annette says RIGHT IN A SUNNY AREA.

Karen says IN THE FRONT
GARDEN?

Annette says RIGHT IN THE FRONT, AND
IT'S ON THE EAST SIDE OF THE
HOUSE, AND ACTUALLY IT'S
RIGHT LIKE ON A CORNER OF
THE EDGE.

Frank says IS THE
SOIL THAT YOU PLANTED IT IN
A NICE TRIPLE MIX OR
TOPSOIL?
LIKE A GOOD SOIL?
OR IS IT SANDY?

Annette says YES, IT IS.

Frank says IT'S A
GOOD SOIL?

Annette says YES, IT IS.

Frank says THE AREA WHERE
YOU PLANTED IT, WAS IT AN
AREA THAT SNOWFALL STAYED
THERE THE LONGEST?
LIKE BASICALLY YOU HAD SNOW
MOUNDS THERE FOR -- IT WAS
THE LAST PLACE WHERE SNOW
WAS TO LEAVE PER SE?

Annette says I WOULD THINK SO,
YES, I'D SAY SO.

Frank says THERE'S
WHAT WE CALL POT SPOTS AND
COLD SPOTS TO PEOPLE'S
GARDENS, AND IF SNOW STAYED
IN THE AREA, BECAUSE IT'S ON
THE EAST SIDE, WHICH IS
GENERALLY MORNING SUN SO, IT
MIGHT JUST BE, YOURS MIGHT
FLOWER A WEEK TO TWO WEEKS
LATER THAN EVERYBODY ELSE'S
AND THAT MIGHT BE THE
BALANCE THERE.
JUST BECAUSE THE SNOW SAT
THERE AND IT WAS IN DORM
MANSI A BIT LONGER.
IF IT'S GOT SUN, GOOD SOIL,
THE FLOCKS, GROUND FLOCKS
SHOULD DO WELL, THEY'RE VERY
EASY.
THE ONLY DOWNFALL IS IT ONLY
FLOWERS FOR A SHORT PERIOD
OF TIME AND THEN YOU WON'T
HAVE COLOUR.

Karen says THEN IT'S ALL
GREEN.

Frank says SO MAKE
SURE WHERE YOU PLANT THAT
GROUND FLOCKS THAT YOU THEN
FIGURE OUT OKAY WHAT'S GOING
TO BLOOM LATE JUNE SO THAT I
HAVE COLOUR ALL SEASON.

Karen says YOU KNOW WHAT MY
PROBLEM WAS, FRANK?
WE HAVE IT IN THE FRONT, OUR
FRONT GARDEN AND THE PEOPLE
WHO DELIVER FLYERS STOP ON
OUR GARDEN TO GO NEXT DOOR,
AND THEY'VE STOMPED ON THE
FLOX ALL WINTER LONG AND NOW
IT'S JUST MASHED INTO THE
GROUND AND WE'RE JUST GOING
TO HAVE TO MOVE IT.
WILL IT MOVE WELL?

Frank says OH,
YEAH.
DIVIDING PLANTS IS REALLY
EASY AND TRANSPLANTING THEM
AND THINGS.
THE MOST IMPORTANT THING,
WHEN YOU ARE MOVING A PLANT,
IS TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU TRY
TO TAKE AS MUCH SOIL WITH IT
AND ALSO YOU KEEP IT MOIST.
SO YOUR NEW HOLE'S PREPARED,
SO YOU GO FROM ONE AREA TO
THE NEXT AREA AND YOU KEEP
IT MOIST.
SO YOU WATER.
AND USUALLY MOST PERENNIAL
PLANTS, YOU CAN DIVIDE AT
THE ONLY THING THAT
SOMETIMES IS A DOWNFALL BY
MOVING THEM THE WRONG TIME
OF YEAR, IS YOU MIGHT
INHIBIT BLOOMING.
BEST TIME TO MOVE A GROUND
FLOX IS AFTER A BLOOM OR
MOVING IT IN EARLY SPRING OR
LATE FALL.

Karen says GREAT ADVICE AND
THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TALKING
ABOUT, IS GARDENING HERE AND
THE ADVICE FROM FRANK FARGE
JEAN, AND OUR PHONE NUMBER'S
IN TORONTO.
TALKING EVERYTHING FROM
GARDEN DESIGN TO THOSE
DIFFICULT PLANTS.
She looks at the computer and reads I JUST RECEIVED A
JAPANESE RED MAPLE FOR
MOTHER'S DAY BUT MY SON SAYS
THE GARDENING CENTRE DOES
NOT GIVE A GUARANTEE FOR
THIS TREE.
WE LIVE IN THE COUNTRY, GET
A LOT OF WIND AND I THINK
WE'RE A ZONE FOUR OR FIVE.
WHAT WOULD BE THE BEST AREA
TO PLANT AND WHAT WINTER
PROTECTION WOULD IT NEED?”
She continues AND THAT'S FROM BROCK VILLE.

Karen says THAT'S A PLANT
HEARTY TO A ZONE SIX.
SOMETIMES THEY CAN DO OKAY
IN A ZONE FIVE AND THEY
DON'T LIKE WINDY AREAS.
WHAT THEY SHOULD BE PLANTED
IN IS AN AREA THAT'S FAIRLY
PROTECTED FROM WINDS AND
ALSO AN AREA, IF IT IS IN A
MARGINALLY HARDY ZONE, IT'S
PLANTED IN AN AREA SNOW
ACTUALLY ACCUMULATES.
SNOW'S A REALLY GOOD
INSULATOR.
FOR WINTER PROTECTION, YOU
SHOULD BUILD A BURLAP SCREEN
AROUND IT BUT LEAVE THE
SCREEN OPEN ON THE TOP SO
SNOW FALL CAN STILL SIT IN
THERE AND ACTUALLY AT THAT
TIME THE SNOW WILL WORK AS
AN INSULATOR.
IT IS A GOOD INDICATION
THOUGH IF A GARDEN CENTRE IS
NOT GOING TO GUARANTEE A
PLANT MATERIAL IT'S REALLY
NOT HARDY FOR YOUR ZONE AND
MAYBE IT WOULDN'T BE A BAD
IDEA TO EXCHANGE THAT FOR
SOMETHING THAT'S HOARDIER
FOR YOU.

Karen says HAS A BETTER
CHANCE.

Frank continues A BETTER
CHANCE.
THAT DOESN'T MEAN IT MIGHT
NOT GROW IN YOUR AREA.
WE ALL HAVE MICRO CLIMATES
IN ALL OUR AREAS AND
SOMETIMES A MAGNOLIA THAT'S
NOT SUPPOSED TO GROW IN YOUR
ZONE GROWS BEAUTIFULLY
BECAUSE OF THE WIND
PROTECTION AND THE SNOW FALL,
THAT WE HAVE MICRO CLIMATES.
BUT IF YOU'RE NOT GETTING A
GUARANTEE ON, I KNOW
JAPANESE MAPLES ARE ABOUT
150 TO 200 DOLLARS, THAT'S AN
EXPENSE THAT I WOULD THINK
YOU WOULD WANT TO USE ON
PLANT THAT'S GOING TO DO
WELL FOR YOU.

Karen says CAROLYN FROM
WHITEFISH WITH HER QUESTION.

Carolyn says HI, HOW ARE YOU?

Karen says FINE, THANKS.

Carolyn says I WANTED TO ASK
YOU, THIS IS GOING TO BE OUR
SECOND YEAR WITH A GARDEN.
THIS YEAR I WANT TO MAKE ONE
A LOT BIGGER THAN WE HAD IN
THE PAST AND ALL WE HAD WAS
SOME BEANS KIND OF OUTLINING
OUR GARDEN BUT MY PROBLEM IS
WE LIVE UP ON A ROCK BED SO
WE HAVE NO SOIL.
SO I WANTED TO KNOW WHAT
SHOULD WE DO, IF WE'RE GOING
TO MAKE A BIGGER GARDEN,
WHAT KIND OF BOUNDARIES, HOW
MUCH SOIL SHOULD I HAVE,
LIKE WHERE DO I GO?

Frank says THE
THING TO DO IS, BECAUSE YOU
LIVE ON A ROCK BED, YOU
REALLY CAN'T HAVE THE
ABILITY TO USE THE SOIL ON
THE GROUND, SO WHAT YOU WANT
TO DO IS BUILD A RAISED BED.
AND BUILDING RAISED BEDS FOR
A VEGETABLE GARDEN IS REALLY
GOOD BECAUSE THE OTHER THING
IS, YOU KNOW, LEANING OVER,
PICKING THE VEGETABLES AND
ALSO WEEDING, IT'S A LOT
EASIER ON YOUR BACK.
THE AMOUNT OF SOIL THAT YOU
WANT TO HAVE IN THAT AREA,
IT'S A GOOD IDEA TO HAVE AT
LEAST -- I WOULD SAY ABOUT
12 INCHES.
IT DEPENDS.
IF YOU WANT TO GROW ROOT
CROPS, LIKE CARROTS AND
ONIONS AND PARSNIPS AND
THOSE THING, YOU WANT TO
HAVE FAIRLY GOOD
WELL-DRAINED SOIL THAT'S
FAIRLY THICK.
SO 12, 14 INCHES.
AND REALLY, BECAUSE YOU LIVE
ON THE ROCK BED, IT'S ALWAYS
A GOOD IDEA TO BUILD A NICE,
RAISED BED.
MAKE SURE IT'S IN SUNLIGHT
BECAUSE VEGETABLE GARDENS
NEED AT LEAST SIX HOURS OF
FULL SUN, AND ALSO MAKE SURE
THAT IT'S IN AN AREA THAT'S
FAIRLY PROTECTED FROM WIND,
TOO.
BECAUSE A LOT OF THE
VEGETABLES THAT WE DO GROW,
YOU DON'T WANT THEM TO GET
BEAT UP BY WIND.
LET'S SAY IF YOU'RE DOING
CHERRY TOMATOES OR TOMATOES
ON TOMATO CAGES, THINGS LIKE
THAT YOU REALLY DON'T WANT
THEM TO BE IN WINDY AREA
BECAUSE YOU'RE NOT GOING TO
HAVE A PRODUCTION OF FRUIT
OF VEGETABLES.

Karen says AND IF WE'VE
PLANTED TOMATOES, HAVE WE
DONE IT TOO EARLY?
LET'S TALK TORONTO.

Frank says LAST
FROST DAY FOR THE TORONTO
AREA I BELIEVE IS I BELIEVE
ABOUT MAY 20TH.
FOR BERRY AREAS ABOUT JUNE
THE 1st.
IT ALL DEPENDS ON MOTHER
NATURE.
THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT WE
MIGHT NOT HAVE FROST IN THE
SECOND WEEK OF JUNE IN
TORONTO.
WE DO LIVE IN CANADA.
THE THING IS, IS THAT MAY
24th IS THE GENERAL RULE OF
THUMB, IS THAT ONE WEEKEND
WHERE YOU CAN PLANT IN
SOUTHERN ONTARIO.
WHERE YOU'RE GOING TO BE
FAIRLY SAFE.
THE MAIN THING TO DO IS
ALWAYS TO PAY ATONGS YOUR
WEATHER FOREKAS AND IF IT'S
FREEZING THAT EVENING,
EITHER GO OUT THERE AND
COVER YOUR PLANTS OR GET OUT
THERE AT NIGHT AND SOAK THEM
ALL DOWN.
BECAUSE BY SOAKING THEM DOWN
WHAT HAPPENS IS WHEN WATER
FREEZES, IT ACTUALLY EMITS
HEAT AND WILL CREATE AN
INSULATING FACTOR AROUND THE
PLANT AND HELP YOU FROM
PROTECTING THEM.

Karen says A FEW GARDEN
COLUMNISTS I READ RECENTLY
WHO ARE SAYING FORGET THESE
OLD RULES OF THE MAY 24
WEEKEND.
IF YOU CAN WORK THE SOIL, GO
AHEAD.
BECAUSE THEY'RE FINDING THAT
PEOPLE ARE HEADING OUT TO
THE GARDEN CENTRES IN MARCH,
AND THEY'RE SO EAGER, WE
CANADIANS, TO GET THAT
GARDEN UNDERWAY, THAT IF YOU
CAN WORK THE SOIL GO, NUTS.

Frank says WELL, IF
YOU CAN WORK THE SOIL, GO
NUTS.
THE THING IS, WHEN YOU'RE
WORKING THE SOIL YOU WANT TO
MAKE SURE IT'S DRIED OUT A
BIT, BECAUSE IF GO OUT THERE
WHEN IT'S REALLY WET AND TRY
TO WORK IT, YOU CREATE
COMPACTION, YOU'RE NOT
HELPING, HARMING.
YES, GO OUT AND PREP YOUR
BEDS, PLANT SOME PERENNIALS
THAT HAVE BEEN HARDENED OFF
AND ACCLIMATIZED TO THE AREA
ALREADY.
BUT ANNUALS, THOSE PLANTS
THAT ARE NOT HARDY FOR OUR
ZONE, MAKE SURE THAT YOU'RE
DOING IT AFTER FROST
WARNINGS.
BECAUSE IF YOU WANT TO GO
SPEND 80 DOLLARS IS A HAVE A FROST
KILL IT YOU WILL ALL, FINE.
BUT THING LIKE RADISHES,
SWISS CHARD, CARROTS, ONIONS,
YOU CAN SOW EARLY ON AND A
WHOLE BUNCH OF DIFFERENT
PLANTS THAT ARE SOWN EARLIER
BEFORE FROST DATES, BUT IF
YOU WANT TO ADD COLOUR,
MAYBE A NICE IDEA IS GET CON
TERN, PLANT THEM IN PUT THEM
OUT DURING THE WARM DAYS AND
THEN YOU HAVE THE OPTION AT
NIGHT TO POP THEM INSIDE
DURING THE EVENINGS.
SO I THINK MAY 2-4 IS STILL
A GOOD THING.
I DON'T LIKE SPENDING MONEY
AND THEN IT ALL DIE.

Karen says AND THEN GO OUT
AND SAY “AH, MY GERANIUMS.”
OK, NEXT EMAIL.
She reads “I'M A BUSY GUY WHO ENJOYS
PLANTS AND FLOWERS ON THE
BALCONY, HOWEVER LIVE
UPSTAIRS ON A DUPLEX EASILY
ACCESSIBLE TO SQUIRRELS VIA
TREE.
THE REASON THEY COME ONTO
THE BALCONY IS TO DIG.
THEY UPROOT PLANTS AND MAKE
A BIG MESS SO I'VE DECIDED
TO READ EVERYTHING ABOUT
PUTTING BONE MEAL INTO THE
SOIL AS A DETERRENT BUT I
HAVEN'T TRIED IT JUST YET.
WHAT IS YOUR SUGGESTION FOR
KEEPING THOSE SQUIRRELS OUT
OF THE POT.”

Frank says BONE MEAL'S A DEFINITE NO
NO.
BONE MEAL ATTRACTS RODENTS,
BLOOD MEAL DETRACTS.
BLOOD MEAL WILL DISTRACT
THEM BASED ON SCENT.
THEY DON'T LIKE THE SMELL OF
IT BLOOD MEAL ALSO IS REALLY
GOOD FOR YOUR PLANTS.
IT ACTUALLY A FERTILIZER SO
HELPS THEM OUT IN THAT
REGARD.
THE OTHER THING YOU MIGHT
WANT TO DO, TOO, WITH
SQUIRRELS, BECAUSE THEY'RE
COMING INTO THAT AREA ALL
THE TIME IS DISTRACT THEM
OTHER WAYS.
BE IT WITH MAYBE SOMETHING
THAT'S MAKING NOISE.
SQUIRRELS ARE PRETTY FIN
NICKY, THEY KIND OF COME IN
ALL AREAS, THE LAST SOLUTION
YOU CAN DO IS BUY SQUIRREL
FEEDERS AND ACTUALLY HAVE
SOME FUN WITH THEM.
SQUIRREL FEEDERS ARE JUST A
NICE FEEDER THAT YOU CAN
STICK AN OLD CORN OF COULD
BE ON THERE THE COW CORN
THEY GROW FOR CATTLE.
BY STICKING IT ON THERE THE
SQUIRRELS WILL COME AND EAT
THE CORN AND WILL USUALLY
STAY AWAY FROM YOUR PLANTS.
THE ONLY THING BY DOING THAT
IS YOU MIGHT INVITE ALL THE
SKWIRS FROM YOUR AREA.

Karen says A PARTY ON THE
BALCONY.

Frank says THE
OTHER THING IF YOU'RE
FINDING BLOOD MEAL'S NOT
GOING TO WORK THERE'S A
PRODUCT THAT'S ORGANIC AS A
REPELLENT AND IT'S CALLED
“CRITTER RIDDER” AND IT'S
ACTUALLY CAYENNE PEEPER.
IT'S MIX FROM A TYPE OF
CAYENNE PEEP EVERY AND WILL
DISTRACT THEM FROM YOUR
AREA.

Karen says GOOD LUCK.
ALLANAH'S NEXT.
CALLING FROM TORONTO.
HIGH ALANNAH.

Alannah says I'M, WE MOVED
INTO THIS HOUSE LAST FALL
AND INHERITED A SILVER LEAF
DOGWOOD AND I DON'T KNOW
MUCH ABOUT THEM.
I DON'T THINK IT'S
PLANTED -- IT'S PLANTED AT
THE FRONT OF THE GARDEN, SO
IT'S KIND OF SHADING OUT A
LOT OF PLANTS BEHIND IT CAN
I MOVE IT?
HOW BIG DOES IT?
AND CAN I PRUNE IT?

Frank says WITH THE
SILVER LEAF DOGWOOD, NUMBER
ONE ABOUT MOVING, YES INDEED
YOU CAN MOVE IT DURING A
TIME THAT YOU'RE GOING TO
HAVE A LOT OF MOISTURE OR
COOL TEMPERATURE, SPRING OR
FALL ARE THE BEST TIME TO
MOVE IT MAKE SURE YOU MOVE
IT WITH AS MUCH SOIL AS
POSSIBLE AND YOU USE A TRANS
TRANSPLANT FERT LIRZ.
SILVER LEAF DOG WOOD IF LEFT
UNPRUNED CAN GROW VERY BIG.
VERY, VERY BIG.
THEY CAN GET -- I'VE SEEN
THEM AT LEAST SIX TO SEVEN
FEET IN HEIGHT AND ALMOST
SIX FEET IN WIDTH.
BUT THE THING IS, IS YOU CAN
BE VICIOUS AND MALICIOUS
WHEN YOU PRUNE THEM.
MY DOG WOOD AT MY OWN HOME,
I PRUNE AT LEAST THREE OR
FOUR TIMES A SEASON AND KEEP
IT FAIRLY CONTAINED TO BE
ONLY ABOUT FOR YOU FEET IN
HEIGHT AND STAYS ABOUT FOUR
FEET IN WIDTH AND IT LOOKS
NICE.
BY PRUNING I KEEP IT NICE
AND FOOL.
THE THING IS TRY TO PRUNE
OUT ANY STEMS THAT ARE
GROWING INTO THE CENTRE OF
THE BUSH SO YOU GET GOOD
AIRFLOW.
THE NICE THING ABOUT SILVER
LEAF DOG WOOD DURING THE
WINTER IT HAS A RED TWIG
WHICH IS REALLY ATTRACTIVE
IN THE WINTERTIME AND IT'S
THOSE RED TWIGS, TOO, BE IT
SILVER LEAF OR THE NATIVE
RED TWIGGED DOG WOOD THAT
PEOPLE NEWS THE WINTERTIME
WITH THEIR ARRANGEMENTS, YOU
KNOW, WITH THE PINE, KIND OF
A “MARTHA” THING TO DO.

Frank chuckles.

Karen says SHE WOULD BE
PLEASED.
WE HAVEN'T HAD A ROSE
QUESTION YET AND I'M JUST
GOING TO THROW ONE AT YOU IN
THIS FUNDAMENTAL QUESTION OF
WHEN TO CHOP BACK.
SPRING OR FALL, CLIMBING
FIRST US BUSH ROSE.
WHAT IS YOUR SUGGESTION?

Frank says WITH
ROSES, THE THING TO DO -- IT
ALL DEPENDS ON THE VARIETY
OF ROSE.
THERE'S JUST NOT A ROSE,
THERE'S CANADIAN EXPLORERS,
SHRUB ROSES, ALL THESE
DIFFERENT ONES BUT AS A
GENERAL RULE WHAT YOU SHOULD
DO IS IN THE FALL, A
CLIMBING ROSE, OR THE HYBRID
TEA ROSES, YOU SHOULD PRUNE
THEM BACK SO SNOW FALL'S NOT
GOING TO CAUSE ANY DAMAGE TO
THEM.
MEANING THAT WHEN WE HAVE A
HEAVY SNOW FALL OR A HEAVY
FREEZING RAIN THEY'RE NOT
GOING TO TAKE THE TWIGS AND
BRING THEM AND BEND THEM
OVER.
THE NEXT THING YOU WANT TO
DO, MOST ROSES FOR THIS AREA
ARE TEMPERAMENTAL, PER SE.
ESPECIALLY THE HYBRID IT'S,
FMT LORBUNDAS SO YOU HAVE TO
PROTECT THEM.
MOUND THEM UP.
THEN IN THE SPRING, WHEN
THERE'S REALLY NO WARNINGS
OF HEAVY FROST WARNINGSINGS,
YOU UNCOVER THEM, THEN WHAT
YOU DO IS GO TO THE THREE
BEST CANES ON A HYBRID TEA,
WHICH IS A CLIMBING ROSE,
AND PRUNE EVERYTHING OFF TO
THOSE THREE CANES, THE THREE
THICKEST, NICE GREEN CANES
AND LEAVE THOSE TO ABOUT SIX
TO EIGHT INCHES JUST ABOVE
THE GRAFT, WHICH IS THAT
CENTRE POINT, USUALLY THE
ONEALITY GROUND LEVEL.
FOR THE CLIMBING ROSES
GENERALLY WHAT YOU'RE GOING
TO FIND IS YOU'RE GOING
PRUNE OFF MOST OF THE DEAD
WOOD THERE, BECAUSE YOU'RE
GOING TO HAVE A LOT OF DEAD
WOOD.

Karen says BECAUSE OUR
CLIMBING ROSE THE STALK IS
SO THICK I HAVE TO TAKE A
SAW TO IT IF I WANT TO PRUNE
IT.

Frank says YOU'RE
GOING TO PRUVET DEAD WOOD
FOR THE CLIMBING --

Karen says AND LEAVE THE
STALKS THERE.

Frank says OH,
YEAH.

Karen says SO I DON'T NEED MY
SAW.

Karen chuckles.

Frank says NO, YOU
WON'T NEED YOUR SAW AND
WHAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT, IF
YOU WANT TO KNOW A GENERAL
RULE OF THUMB FOR PRUNING
MOST THINGS, OUTSIDE OF
ROSES, GENERAL RULE OF THUMB,
PRUNE THINGS AFTER THEY
BLOOM, THIS IS EXCLUDING
ROSES, BUT FOR SHRUBS AND
EVERYTHING ELSE, PRUNE
THINGS AFTER THEY BLOOM, AND
MOST EVERGREENS PRUNE IN
JULY.
IF YOU STICK BY THAT, YOU'RE
REALLY NEVER GOING TO FAIL.
THAT'S AN EASY RULE TO THINK
OF.
REAL EASY.
AND REMEMBER, TOO, IF YOU
SPRUN A SPIREA AFTER IT
BLOOMS, GOLD FLAME, ANTHONY
WATER, YOU USUALLY GET A
SECOND BLOOM OUT OF IT.
LET'S SAY YOU DIDN'T PRUNE
THE LILAC AFTER IT BLOOM
SCOMPUD DO THE FALL, YOU'RE
NOT GOING TO GET BLOOMED
NEXT SEASON.
SO PRUNE AFTER THEY BLOOM
OR -- YOU KNOW, AFTER THEY
BLOOM AND EVERGREENS IN
JULY.

Karen says BECAUSE THE LILACS
ARE JUST GORGEOUS RIGHT NOW
IN THE TORONTO AREA.

Frank says OH,
FRAGRANCE -- IF YOU WANT A
LILAC THAT'S NOT GOING TO
TAKE UP A LOT OF SPACE AND
GIVE YOU A NICE FRAGRANCE,
LOOK FOR KOREAN OR MISS KIM
LILAC, DWARF VARIETY OF
LILAC, WHICH WOULD GROW
REALLY WELL IN TORONTO IF
YOU HAD A SMALL SPACE, SO
VERY FRAGRANT, IF YOU HAD A
PATIO --

Karen says JUST A GORGEOUS
TIME OF YEAR.
LET'S GO TO ROSE, CALLING IN
FROM PERTH.
HI ROSE.

Rose says HI, HOW ARE YOU?

Karen says GOOD, THANKS.

Rose says I HAVE TWO
QUESTIONS, ACTUALLY.
WE'VE BEEN IN OUR HOME FOR
ABOUT FOUR YEARS.
THE PEOPLE PRIOR TO US WERE
TWO YEARS HERE AND THEY
PLANTED PEONYS, EXCEPT THEY
PUT THEM IN A VERY UNVISUAL
PLACE.
THEY'RE AT THE SIDE OF THE
HOUSE, AND THEY ARE BURBL
FLOWERS.
I'M JUST WONDERING, CAN THEY
BE SEPARATED AND MOVED?
OR SHOULD I MOVE THE WHOLE
CHUNK OR JUST LEAVE THEM
ALONE BECAUSE I'LL KILL
THEM?

Frank says THEY CAN
BE SEPARATED AND MOVED NO
PROBLEM WHATSOEVER.

Rose says OKAY.

Frank says THE
THING TO DO, TOO, IS ALWAYS
MAKE SURE YOU KEEP THEM
MOIST WHEN YOU'RE SEPARATING,
DIVIDING AND MOVING THEM.
THE OTHER THING TO DO, WITH
PEONYS YOU WANT TO MAKE SURE
YOU DON'T PLANT THEM TOO
DEEP.
LOT OF PEOPLE, WHEN THEY
PLANT THEM TOO DEEP THEY
DON'T BLOOM AND THAT'S WHY
THEY DON'T BLOOM.
YOU WANT TO MAKE SURE REALLY
THE LEVEL THEY'RE PLANTED AT
RIGHT NOW IS REALLY THE
LEVEL YOU WANT TO STAY AT
AND ALSO REMEMBER WITH
PEONYS IF YOU FIND YOU HAVE
ANTS THERE -- OH, MY GOD,
I'VE GOT ANTS IN MY PEONYS,
THEY'RE THERE TO HELP THEM
OUT.
DON'T WORRY ABOUT THAT TOO
MUCH.

Karen says AND YOUR SECOND
QUESTION?

Rose says WE ALSO HAVE A
VEGETABLE GARDEN THAT'S
QUITE LARGE, BUT I'M ON A
TWO ACRE PIECE OF PROPERTY
AND I KIND OF GET OVERRUN
WITH DEER IS THERE ANYTHING
I CAN DO TO KEEP THEM FROM
EATING THE VEGETABLES BEFORE
WE DO?

They laugh.

Frank says THAT'S
WHAT'S SO NEAT ABOUT THIS
SHOW.
YOU HAVE PEOPLE FROM RURAL
AREAS TO TORONTO.
SQUIRRELS TO DEER.
THE THING IS, WITH DEER
THERE ARE -- THERE'S ONE
PRODUCT CALLED RO-PELL YOU
CAN SPRAY YOUR VEGETABLES OR
PLANTS WITH OR ANOTHER
CALLED “SCOOT” WHICH IS
USUALLY USED IN THE FALL,
BUT YOU CAN SPRAY VEGETABLES
WITH THAT BUT IT LEAVES A
RESIDUAL TASTE SO IT'S NOT A
GOOD GOOD IDEA FOR YOURSELF
BECAUSE YOU'RE GN GOING TO
BE CONSUMING IT.
WITH DEER YOU WANT TO SCARE
THEM FROM THE AREA.
I'VE SEEN SOME PEOPLE USE
RADIOS IN A GARDEN, TO SCARE
THEM AT EVENING.
ALSO SOMETHINGS LIKE, YOU
KNOW, THE SCARECRORX
WINDMILL, ALL THESE OLD
THINGS ARE WAYS TO TRY TO
REPEL THEM AND THEN BASED ON
SCENT.
TAKING DOG HAIR CLIPPINGS,
PUTTING THEM AROUND THE
GARDEN AREA, BASED ON SCENT
SHOULD REPEL THEM FROM THE
AREA.
LASTLY THERE'S A NEW PRODUCT
AVAILABLE, TOO.
AND YOU KNOW OUR LIGHT
SENSORS WE HAVE FROM OUR
HOME TO MAKE SURE A THIEF
DOESN'T -- THERE'S ACTUALLY
SPRINKLERS WITH THE LIGHT
SENSORS.
SO WHEN A DEER WALKS IN YOUR
GARDEN AND TRIPS THE SENSOR,
THE SPRINKLER KICKS ON --

Karen says LIKE A WATER
PISTOL.
WITH THE DEER BEING SO SAVVY,
THEY'RE CATCHING ON TO THESE
TRICKS OF THE DOG HAIR,
THEY'RE SO PERSISTENT.

Frank says VERY
IMPORTANT, THOUGH, REMEMBER
THINGS CATCH ON.
THEY ADAPT -- THE SMELLS AND
THINGS, SO YOU SOMETIMES
HAVE TO CHANGE THE WAY YOU
DO THINGS SO YOU GO FROM DOG
HAIR TO MAYBE A SOUND.
THE MAIN THING IS WHEN
YOU'RE TRYING TO GET RODENTS
AWAY FROM AREAS IS TO FIND
OUT WHAT WAY CAN I MAKE THIS
UNPLEASANT FOR THEM.
EITHER BY SENSE OF SMELL,
VISION OR SOUND.
AND YOU CAN USUALLY REPEL
THEM FROM THE AREA.
THE OTHER THING YOU CAN DO,
TOO, IS TRY TO FIND OUT WHAT
PLANTS THEY DO NOT LIKE.
AND IF YOU PLANT THE
EXTERIOR OF YOUR BED WITH
PLANTS THEY DO NOT LIKE YOU
CAN USUALLY KEEP THEM AWAY.

Karen says I'D LOVE TO SEE A
STUDY ON WHAT KIND OF MUSIC
WORKED THE BEST.

Frank says PROBABLY
BE LIKE KID ROCK.

Frank and Karen laugh.

Karen says A LIKE LAL --
LILAC QUESTION FOR YOU,
FRANK.
She reads “I PLANTED A FRENCH LILAC
FOUR YEARS AGO AND IT'S
NEVER FLOWERED DURING THAT
TIME.
IT'S AT THE FRONT OF THE
HOUSE, FACES EAST, HAS GOOD
SOIL AND GOOD DRAINAGE.
HOW CAN I GET IT TO FLOWER
BEFORE I RIP IT OUT IN
FRUSTRATION?”
THAT'S FOR ANNA.

Frank says MOVE IT
TO A SOUTH OR WEST FACING
AREA BECAUSE AN EAST FACING
AREA IS ONLY GETTING MORNING
SUN.
MORNING SUN IS THE LOWEST
INTENSITY AMOUNT OF DAY
LIGHT.
GENERALLY YOU KNOW WHEN
SOMETHING DOESN'T BLOOM
THERE'S THREE REASONS, THREE
REASONS WHY IT DOESN'T
BLOOM.
ONE IS THAT IT'S NOT IN THE
RIGHT LOCATION.
NOT GETTING ENOUGH SUN.
THE NEXT REASON WHY
SOMETHING MIGHT NOT BLOOM IS
YOU'RE USING THE WRONG
FERLTLIZER.
IF YOU'RE USING SOMETHING
TOO HIGH IN NITROGEN,
CREATING ALL THIS LUSH GREEN
GROWTH BUT NOT ATHROUG TO
BLOOM BECAUSE THERE'S NOT
ENOUGH PHOSPHOROUS, SO FOR
FLOWERING PLANTS, YOU WANT A
HIGHER MIDDLE NUMBER.
AND THE LAST REASON, YOU'RE
PRUNING AT THE WRONG TIME OF
YEAR.
SO LOOK AT THE LIGHT, LOOK
AT THE FERTILIZER THAT
YOU'RE USING, AND THEN ALSO
LOOK AT WHAT TIME YOU PRUNE.
LILACS YOU PRUNE AFTER THEY
BLOOM, AND WITH THEM THEY
NEED FULL FULL SUN.
FULL SUN IS SIX HOURS IS THE
LEAST SUNLIGHT AND THAT'S
MORE OF AN AFTERNOON SUN,
FROM ELEVEN O'CLOCK ON.

Karen says ANNA'S JUST HOPING
FOR A BLOOM SO SHE CAN PRUNE
AFTER.
APRIL FROM AURORA?

April says THANKS FOR TAKING
MY CALL.
I HAVE ROCK GARDEN LOCATED
ALONG A CHAIN FENCE LINE.
AND A LOT OF GRASS GROSS UP
IN BETWEEN THE FENCE AND THE
ROCKS ON MY SIDE OF THE
GARDEN, AND I -- I DON'T
KNOW WHAT TO DO TO CONTROL
THE GRASS.
I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S
ANYTHING I CAN USE TO KILL
THE GRASS BUT NOT DAMAGE THE
PLANTS IN MY GARDEN.
MY NEIGHBOUR ON THE OTHER
SIDE DOESN'T USE A WE'D
WHACKER ALONG THE SIDE SO IT
MAKES IT DIFFICULT TO GET IN
BETWEEN THERE AND PULL OUT
THE GRASS BECAUSE THE ROOTS
ARE SO HARD IN SOME AREAS --

Karen says AND IT MUST BE
THICK, TOO.
IF THEY NEVER USE THE WEED
WHACKER.

Frank says SOMETIMES MAKE A BARRIER.
WORK ALONG THE FENCE LINE,
DIG IT OUT, AND THEN YOU
WHAT DO IS EITHER PUT STONES,
LIKE AN INT TER LOCK PAVER
ALL THE WAY DOWN OR PIECE OF
TIMBER THAT WOULD ACTUALLY
BE A BARRIER, THAT DOESN'T
ALLOW -- YOU'LL STILL FIND
THE ODD PIECE OF GRASS THAT
WILL GROW UNDERNEATH --

Karen says I'VE SEEN PEOPLE
CEMENT IT.

Frank says YEAH,
THAT'S A BARE YEMPLT THERE
ARE NON-SELECTIVE HERBICIDES
YOU CAN PUT DOWN.
THERE'S ONE CALLED WEED RITE,
IT'S BY CIL I THINK, AND IT
STERILIZES FOR A YEAR, BUT
IT'S A NON-SELECTIVE, SO IT
WILL KILL ANYTHING THAT'S
THERE.
SO YOU HAVE TO PREVENT,
MAKING IT EASIER FOR YOU TO
PREVENT THEM FROM COMING IN
IS MAKE A BARRIER ALONG THE
LINE.

Karen says DO YOU HAVE ANY
NEW PLANTS SINCE YOU WERE
JUST AT THAT CONFERENCE IN
CALIFORNIA?
SOME THAT ARE IN THE GARDEN
CENTRES NOW?

Frank says THERE
ARE SO MANY NEW PLANTS
AVAILABLE, IT'S ALMOST
OVERWHELMING WHAT IS
AVAILABLE.
I'VE BROUGHT WITH ME SOME
EXOTICS THAT ARE NOT REALLY
NEW BUT KIND OF INTERESTING.
FOR EXAMPLE THIS ONE HERE IS
CALLED SCAVIOLA WHICH IS A
DROUGHT TOLERANT PLANT.
THESE ARE THE EURO LINE NOW,
THEY CALL IT, THE EXOTIC
LINE, WHICH ARE ALL
INTERESTING FLOWERS FOR
CONTAINER, THIS ONE HERE IS
LAMIUM WHICH IS A GOLDEN
COLOUR THERE.
THERE ARE OVER 26 NEW
VARIETIES OF GERANIUMS IN
THE GARDEN CENTRE THIS YEAR.

Karen says 26?!

Frank says 26.
THERE ARE SO MANY NEW
PERENNIAL PLANTS.
ONE PLANT THAT STOOD
OUT IN MY MIND THAT I DON'T
HAVE WITH ME HERE TODAY
WHICH IS A REALLY GOOD
ANNUAL THIS YEAR, “DRAGON
WINGS BEGONIA,” A RED
FLOWERING BEG AGAIN TO I
CAN'T WITH A WAXY LEAF, GOOD
FOR DROUGHT-TOLERANT AREAS.
SOMETHING, MAYBE NEXT YEAR,
TWO YEARS IT'S GOING TO TAKE
TO US GET IT HERE IN CANADA
IS A TRUE TRAILING IM IS
PATIENT.
AN IMPATIENT THAT TRAILS.
ANOTHER THING I SAW THAT IS
JUST BEING DEVELOPED NOW,
IT'S CALLED WILD FIRE
VERBEENA THAT'S GOING TO
SPREAD UP TO FOUR FEET IN
ONE SEASON.
AND THE NICE THING ABOUT
THESE PLANTS THEY'RE
DEVELOPING NOW, THEY'RE
DEVELOPING THEM SO THEY
DON'T HAVE -- THEY HAVE
RESISTANCE TO DISEASE AND
INSECTS.
THERE'S ALL THOSE DIFFERENT
THINGS THAT ARE HAPPENING.
BUT ALSO AT THE SAME TIME
WHEN WE TALK OF NEW PLANTS,
IT'S SO OVERWHELMING THE
AMOUNT OF NEW STUFF THAT'S
AVAILABLE.

Karen says YOU HAVE THE
TRAILING PETUNIA THERE.
WAS THERE NOT A -- I'M NOT
SURE OF THE TERMINOLOGY, BUT
A DOUBLE PETUNIA OR A DOUBLE
FLOWERING PETUNIA.

Frank says OH,
YEAH.
THOSE ARE NOT SOMETHING
THAT'S NEW, WHAT'S NICE
ABOUT THIS TRAILING PETUNIA,
THIS WAVE PETUNIA AND
ANOTHER CALLED TIDAL WAVE,
WAVE TRAILS OVER, THE TIDAL
WAVE IS UP AND OVER.
WHAT'S NICE ABOUT THEM IS
THEY DO NOT REQUIRE
DEAD-HEADING SO YOU DON'T
HAVE TO DEAD HEAD THEM ALL
THE TIME.

Karen says YOU DON'T HAVE TO
DEAD HEAD A PETUNIA?

Frank says IT WILL
IMPROVE THEM, BUT YOU REALLY
DON'T HAVE TO DEAD HEAD.

A close-up shot shows a pink petunia.

He continues THAT'S THE THINGS, WITH THE
NEW VARIETIES THEY'RE
CREATING, THEY'RE REALLY
GOOD BECAUSE THEY CUT DOWN
ON WORK.
BUT WHEN WE TALK ABOUT NEW
VARIETIES, SOMETHING ELSE
THAT'S GAINING STRENGTH NOW,
TOO, IS USING NATIVE PLANTS,
TOO.
THOSE PLANTS THAT YOU FIND
IN NATIVE AREAS TO US,
BECAUSE THEY'RE MORE
RESISTANT TO DISEASE,
THEY'RE HARDY FOR OUR AREA,
AND, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE
REALLY NATURALLIZED.
CREATING NATURALLIZED SPACES
IS BECOMING VERY POPULAR,
TOO.

Karen says YEAH,
THE IDEA OF ORGANIC
GARDENING, NATURAL GARDEN,
BUT I DON'T KNOW IF YOU
REMEMBER THE STORY.
IT WAS OVER FIVE YEARS AGO
IN TORONTO WHERE A WOMAN
WENT TO CITY HALL AND ARGUED
SHE HAD THE RIGHT TO HAVE A
NATURAL GARDEN BECAUSE THE
NEIGHBOURS WANTED TO MOW IT
DOWN.
NATURAL GARDENING DOESN'T
HAVE TO BE DONE JUST RIGHT
SO IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S
SOMEONE WHO DOESN'T TEND TO
THEIR GARDEN.

Frank says WELL, I THINK EVERYBODY
HAS THEIR OWN INDIVIDUAL
PERSONALITY, AND LIKE I SAID,
WHAT SOMEBODY THINKS IS
UNPLEASING, THERE'S
DIFFERENT GARDENING STYLES.
THERE'S CONTEMPORARY STYLE
WHERE PEOPLE LIKE THINGS
WITH STRAIGHT LINES AND
PRUNED SHRUBS AND THEN
THERE'S THAT CHAOTIC WILD
STYLE.

Karen says THAT CAN LOOK LIKE
NO ONE OF EVEN TENDS TO THE
GARDEN, BUT YET THEY DO TONS
OF WORK IN IT.

Frank says AND
ALWAYS COLOUR, WILD FLOWERS,
DIFFERENT THINGS HAPPENING.
NATURE'S INVITED THERE,
THERE'S BIRDS, AND I THINK
THERE'S MORE OF AN
ACCEPTANCE FOR THAT NOW, TOO,
THAN FIVE YEARS AGO.
BUT I THINK THAT AS LONG
AS -- THAT'S WHAT GARDENING
IS.
IT'S ABOUT BEING YOUR OWN
PERSONALITY, AND THAT'S WHY
GARDENING ART HAS BECOME
VERY POPULAR NOW, WHERE
PEOPLE PUT STATUES AND
OBJECTS IN THEIR GARDEN.

Karen says IS THAT WHY WE'RE
SEEING AN EXPLOSION FOR
PONDS AS WELL?
THE GARDENING CENTRES ARE
REALLY PUSHING THE PONDS.

Frank says THE
REASON WHY THERE'S AN
EXPLOSION FOR PONDS IS
PEOPLE ARE LIKING RANK QUILL
SPACES IN THEIR HOME.
PEOPLE'S DAYS ARE SO CHAOTIC
AND THEY'RE SO “DOT COM'D.”
THEY WANT TO GO HOME AND
HAVE A TRANQUIL PLACE TO GO.
THE OTHER REASON I THINK WHY
PONDS ARE REALLY POPULAR,
TOO, FOR MEN, I DON'T WANT
TO BE STEREOTYPICAL, IT'S
WAY THEY CAN GO AND DO
PLUMBING IN THE GARDEN.
I'VE ALWAYS FOUND WITH
THE GARDENING CENTRE, THE
FEMALES GRAVITATE TOWARDS
THE FLOWERS AND THE MEN GO
TO VEGETABLE GARDEN, LAWNS
OR PLUMBING.

Frank chuckles.

Karen says OH, WE'RE SUCH A
STEREOTYPE.
I'M IN CHARGE OF FLOWERS, MY
HUSBAND THE VEGETABLES.
AND ALSO THE APPROACH TO A
GARDEN CENTRE, BECAUSE WE'RE
COMING UP TO THE BIG WEEKEND
WHERE PEOPLE FLOCK.
WE TIE TO HAVE A STRATEGY
EVERY YEAR, WE PICK A WEEK
NIGHT, TRY DO GO BETWEEN
THREE AND FOUR, END OUR WORK
DAYS EARLY AND GO BEFORE THE
CROWDS.
THAT'S OUR STRATEGY.
DO YOU HAVE ONE?

Frank says GREAT
STRATEGY.
EITHER GO MORNING AND
EVENING, TRY NOT TO GO THERE
SATURDAY AND UNDERSTAND.
BECAUSE EVERYBODY WILL.
DO THE WEEK NIGHT THING AND
MORNING AND EVENING IS GOING
TO BE BETTER, IT'S GOING TO
BE SLOWER FOR YOU, PLUS IF
YOU DO HAVE QUESTIONS AND
YOU ARE A FIRST-TIME
GARDENER, YOU'RE ACTUALLY
GOING TO GET SOMEBODY TO
HELP YOU.
IF YOU'RE A FIRST TIME
GARDENER AND THIS WEEK YOU
DECIDE “I'M GOING TO THE
GARDEN CENTRE” THERE'S GOING
TO BE SO MANY PEOPLE THERE,
OVERWHELMING, PROBABLY NOT A
LOT OF PEOPLE ARE GOING TO
BE THERE TO SERVE YOU SO,
YOU'RE GOING TO BE FAIRLY
INTIMIDATED.
THE OTHER THING YOU CAN DO,
BECAUSE YOU KNOW, INSTEAD OF
WANTING TO BE THE FIRST ONE,
TRY TO WAIT A COUPLE WEEKS.
YOU KNOW, JUST TEND TO THE
GARDENS, MAKE THEM CLEAN,
AND IF YOU WAIT A WEEK AFTER
LABOUR DAY WEEKEND, USUALLY
PRICES ARE A LOT LOWER.

Karen says LABOUR DAY WOULD
BE TOO LATE, BUT THE MAY
WEEKEND.

Frank says SORRY,
RIGHT.
MAY WEEKEND.
I'M GETTING -- LABOUR DAY,
MAY 2-4, I'M TRYING TO END
THE SUMMER ALREADY.

Karen says THANKS SO MUCH.
WE'VE GOT WINNERS FOR THIS
GORGEOUS BOOK, “THE TULIP.”
CONGRATULATIONS TO JOY IN
WILLAND AND SHARON IN BROCK
VILLE.”
GREAT TO SEE YOU AGAIN.

Frank says THANK
YOU, AND HAVE A BLOOMING
GOOD DAY.

He laughs.

Karen says THANK YOU.
SO FRANK FERRAGINE, YOU CAN
NORMALLY FIND HIM IN THE
BRADFORD GREENHOUSES IN
BARRY AND FOR MORE
INFORMATION FROM FRANK,
CHECK OUT HIS WEBSITE.

A slate pops up that reads “Garden Sites www.simcoe.com/garden. www.icangarden.com.”

Karen concludes THAT’S ALL
THE TIME WE HAVE
FOR TODAY. YOU CAN
CATCH MORE ON MONDAY
TO FRIDAY STARTING AT
1 O’CLOCK.

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