Transcript: Book Club | May 05, 2000

Maureen Taylor sits in a studio with yellow walls and a small TV set in the background, which reads “More to life.”

Maureen is in her late thirties, with wavy blond hair in a bob. She’s wearing a light gray blazer over a blue shirt.

Maureen says I'M MAUREEN
TAYLOR.
TODAY ON “MORE TO LIFE,” OUR
BOOK CLUB REGULARS GET
TOGETHER TO GIVE YOU THEIR
LITERARY HITS AND MISSES.
WE'LL WANT TO HEAR YOURS AS
WELL.

(music plays)
The opening sequence shows a wooden table with a small lit candle as several words fly by: Nutrition, medicine, prevention, treatment, health.
Fast clips show different sets of hands performing activities on the table such as pulling petals from a daisy, drawing a big red heart, tuning a violin, flipping through the pages of a book, cooking, and pouring a glass of red wine.
In animation, the title appears inside the shape of a house: “More to life.”

Then, Maureen reappears in the studio.

She says WELCOME TO “MORE
TO LIFE.”
CURL UP IN FRONT OF THE TV
SET WITH THE BEVERAGE OF
YOUR CHOICE AND JOIN IN OUR
REGULAR MEETING OF THE “MORE
TO LIFE” BOOK CLUB.
I'M HERE WITH OUR BOOK CLUB
MEMBERS, BACK FROM GIVING
BIRTH TO HER THIRD BABY IS
CHARMAIN EMERSON, AND HERE
AS WELL IS JEFFERY CANTON.
THIS MONTH WE ALL READ
“ELIZABETH AND AFTER” BY
CANADIAN WRITER MAT COHEN.

A book cover appears featuring a blurry female figure.

She continues WE'LL BE TALKING ABOUT IT
AND ALL THE OTHER BOOKS
WE'RE READING RIGHT NOW AND
WE WANT TO HEAR FROM YOU.
SO IF YOU HAVE A BOOK
RECOMMENDATION OR IF YOU'RE
LOOKING FOR ONE, GIVE US A
CALL.

The caption changes to “416-848-2727. 1-888-411-1234.”

Maureen continues AND OUR e-mail ADDRESS IS...

The caption changes to “moretolife@tvo.org.”

Maureen says AND WELCOME IN,
GUYS.
HI.

Charmain is in her thirties with curly black hair. She’s wearing a gray long-sleeved shirt, a necklace and earrings.

Charmain says HI.

Jeffrey is in his early forties, clean-shaven with curly long hair and a dark beard. He’s wearing glasses and a green shirt.

Jeffrey says NICE TO
SEE 'YA.

Maureen says CHARMAIN, WHAT'S
THE BABY READING?

Jeffrey chuckles and says IT'S A
VERY CLEVER BABY, SO YOU
KNOW...

Maureen says INTO TOLSTOY.

Charmain says EXACTLY.

Jeffrey says VOLUME
TWO OF WAR AND PEACE
ALREADY.

Maureen says WHAT IS IT?

Charmain says IT'S A
BOY.
THREE BOYS.
NO DAUGHTERS.

Maureen says WELL KEEP
TRYING.
SO YOU MADE TIME OVER BEFORE
OR AFTER DELIVERY TO READ
“ELIZABETH AND AFTER.”

Charmain says RIGHT
AFTER, AS A MATTER OF FACT.

Maureen says GOOD FOR YOU.
LET'S GET YOUR THOUGHTS
FIRST.

Charmain says WELL I
THOUGHT THAT “ELIZABETH AND
AFTER” WAS A GOOD BOOK.
I REALIZE THAT MATT COHEN
WON THE PRIZE THAT YEAR FOR
“ELIZABETH AND AFTER.”
I WASN'T AS EXCITED ABOUT IT
AS EVERYONE ELSE WAS.
WHAT I LIKED ABOUT THE BOOK
WAS I THOUGHT IT WAS A GREAT
DEPICTION OF SMALL TOWN
ONTARIO.

The caption changes to “Charmain Emerson. Book Club.”

Charmain continues AND I'M A CITY DWELLER.
AND A TRUE CITY DWELLER.
I LOVE IT HERE, AND IN
TORONTO.
BUT WHAT I FOUND FROM
“ELIZABETH AND AFTER” WAS IT
GAVE ME REALLY GREAT
PERSPECTIVE ON WHAT SMALL
TOWNS ARE LIKE AND THE
PEOPLE WITHIN THE SMALL
TOWNS, ESPECIALLY THE
CHARACTER OF CARL.
AND I THOUGHT WHAT WAS GREAT
ABOUT CARL WAS THAT CARL
LIVES IN EVERY SINGLE ONE OF
US SOMEWHERE, IF NOT US
PERSONALLY, WE KNOW A CARL.
HE'S A BAD CHARACTER WHO'S
DOING HIS BEST TO BE GOOD
AND TRYING TO WRITE A NEW
TRACK RECORD, CREATE A NEW
TRACK RECORD FOR HIMSELF,
AND I THOUGHT THAT COLLIN
DID A GREAT JOB OF LETTING
US KNOW WHAT HE WAS LIKE.

Maureen says SO GOOD BOOK,
NOT GREAT BOOK.
JEFFERY, WHAT ABOUT YOU?

Jeffrey says JUST FOR
PEOPLE WHO MAY NOT KNOW WHAT
THE BOOK IS ABOUT, IT'S
ABOUT CARL McCALVEY WHO'S A
30-SOMETHING FATHER OF ONE
WHO'S BEEN ON THE WESTCOAST
FOR SEVERAL YEARS, HAVING
LEFT THE SMALL TOWN OF WEST
GALL, ONTARIO, UNDER RATHER
A CLOUD, HAVING BEAT UP HIS
EX-WIFE'S BOYFRIEND.

The caption changes to “Jeffrey Canton. Book Club.”

Maureen says RIGHT.

Jeffrey says HE'S LEFT
HER AND A SMALL DAUGHTER
BEHIND, AS WELL AS HIS
FATHER.
AND HE'S GOT QUITE A PAST
BEHIND HIM.
HE'S A DRINKER AND A
FIGHTER, AND ONE OF THE BIG
ISSUES IN THIS BOOK IS THAT
AT SOME POINT CARL, DRIVING
HIS PARENTS HOME FROM THE
TOWN'S BIG ANNUAL NEW YEAR'S
BASH, CRASHED INTO A TREE
AND KILLED HIS MOTHER.

Maureen says AND THIS ALL
HAPPENS BEFORE THE BOOK
STARTS.

Jeffrey says THAT'S
RIGHT.
AND SO THIS IS WHERE WE
START, WITH CARL COMING BACK
TO WEST GALL AFTER BEING
AWAY AND TRYING TO START
ANEW.
AND I FOUND IT FASCINATING.
YOU KNOW, I, I'M NOT A SMALL
TOWN PERSON EITHER, BUT FOR
ME, THIS BOOK HAD AN
IMMEDIATE YAS SEE THAT I'VE
NEVER REALLY FELT ABOUT
SMALL TOWN ONTARIO LIFE.
DISSPIKT THE FACT THAT THERE
ARE OTHER GREAT DEPICTIONS
OF ALICE MONROE'S “LIES AND
GIRLS AND WOMEN.”
BOOKS LIKE CAROL SHIELDS,
MARGARET LAWRENCE'S
“MANAWAKA” BOOKS WHICH ARE
ALL ABOUT SMALL TOWNS BUT
THIS IS THE FIRST TIME AS A
GUY I REALLY FELT I HAD AN
INSIGHT INTO IT AND FOR ME
THAT WAS VERY POWERFUL.
AND I CAN UNDERSTAND -- I
COULD WELL UNDERSTAND WHY IT
WON THE GOVERNOR GENERAL'S
AWARD.

Maureen says WELL, I GUESS
I'M THE ONLY SMALL TOWN --
I'M A SMALL TOWN GIRL HERE,
OKAY?
AND LET ME JUST TELL YOU, I
AGREE CARL'S FROM SMALL TOWN
ONTARIO.
HE RANKED TRUE, LOSER THAT
HE IS, AND WE'RE NOT ALL
LOSERS FROM SMALL TOWNS BUT
WHO IS IT IN THE BOOK THAT'S
RUNNING, HE GETS ALL THIS
NATIONAL ATTENTION --

Jeffrey says FRED.

Maureen says I'M SORRY.
NOBODY PACE ANY ATTENTION TO
REEVES IN MUNICIPAL
POLITICS.
WELL MOST OF THEM ARE GONE
NOW BECAUSE THEY'VE
AMALGAMATED ALL OF THE AREAS
LIKE THAT.
TO ME THAT DIDN'T PAY TRUE.
NOBODY WAS GOING TO PAY
ATTENTION TO FRED AND GIVE
HIM ALL OF THAT EXPOSURE SO
THAT BOTHERED ME.

Jeffrey says OKAY.
WELL --

Maureen says CALL IT A SMALL
THING.

Jeffrey says BUT KEEP
IN MIND THAT COHEN HIMSELF
IS A SMALL TOWN BOY --

Charmain says AND
VERY MUCH A FAN OF SMALL
TOWNS.

Jeffrey says YEAH, AND
I THINK THE PORTRAIT OF FRED
WAS KIND OF A, KIND OF ONE
OF THOSE PLAYS WHERE, UM,
THERE'S ALWAYS THE
POSSIBILITY THAT SOMETHING
IN A SMALL TOWN CAN ATTRACT
THE ATTENTION OF SOMETHING
BIG, AND KEEP IN MIND THAT
THIS SMALL TOWN, WEST GALL,
HAS AN INTERESTING HISTORY,
AS OPPOSED TO MAYBE SOME
OTHER PLACES IN THAT IT'S
GOT -- IT'S HAD THIS
REIGNING FAMILY, WHO FOR
MORE THAN A GENERATION HAS
ATTRACTED ATTENTION TO WEST
GALL.
I MEAN, THE FACT THAT THE
SENATOR, WHO IS IN THE
BACKGROUNDS, YOU KNOW, AND
THE CURRENT SORT OF FAMILY
MEMBER WHO RUNS THIS USED
CAR LOT, AND HAS ALWAYS
GAINED A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF
ATTENTION.

Maureen says OKAY, YEAH,
MAYBE.

Jeffrey says SO THERE
MAY BE THAT KIND OF
POSSIBILITY.
I MEAN, I'M NOT DISPUTING
THAT IT MAY BE A TOTAL
FANTASY, BUT ALSO IN THE
WORLD OF OUR POLITICS
TODAY -- BECAUSE THIS IS
SUPPOSED TO BE TAKING PLACE
NOW, YOU COULD SEE THAT
SOMETHING LIKE THAT,
ESPECIALLY WITH THAT KIND
OF --

Maureen says WELL, HE HAS
RIGHT WING VIEWS AND WANTS
THE GOVERNMENT TO GET OUT OF
PEOPLE'S LIVES, YES.

Jeffrey says YEAH.

Maureen says I THINK WE KNOW
WHAT THERE'S ECHOES OF
THERE.
SO I SHOULD MENTION THAT
“ELIZABETH AND AFTER” WAS
OUR CHOICE FOR LAST MONTH
AND WE'VE GOT A NEW CHOICE
FOR THIS MONTH WHICH I
DIDN'T TELL PEOPLE ABOUT.
LIKE TO DO THAT, BECAUSE
WE'RE GIVING A COUPLE OF
COPIES AWAY “THE DROWNING
PEOPLE” WHICH IS BY RICHARD
MASON IS OUR SELECTION FOR
NEXT MONTH AND WE HAVE TWO
COPIES TO GIVE AWAY.

The cover of the book appears.

Maureen continues YOU HAVE TO GET YOUR
QUESTION TO AIR THOUGH AND
YOU CAN ONLY DO THAT BY
GIVING US A CALL.
SO DO CALL US WITH YOUR
RECOMMENDATIONS ABOUT BOOKS
YOU'VE READ RECENTLY, TELL
US WHAT YOU THINK ABOUT
“ELIZABETH AND AFTER” IF YOU
LIKE OR IF YOU'VE, IF YOU'D
LIKE A BOOK TO READ WE'VE
GOT SOME SUGGESTIONS AS
WELL.
NOW, WE SHOULD MENTION, MATT
COHEN'S WRITTEN A LOT OF
THINGS.
HE DIED LAST YEAR JUST AFTER
RECEIVING THE GOVERNOR
GENERAL'S --

Jeffrey says THAT'S
RIGHT TWO, WEEKS LATER.

Charmain says HE'S A
CHILDREN'S AUTHOR AS WELL.

Maureen says DO YOU WANT TO
TELL US ABOUT --

Charmain says YEAH,
HE WROTE “TEA TIME” WHICH IS
BASICALLY MUTT SPELLED
BACKWARDS.”
AND HE WROTE THAT UNDER AN
ANONYMOUS NAME, HE DIDN'T
WANT PEOPLE TO KNOW HE WAS
WHO HE IS, AND HE WROTE
UNDER THE NAME OF TEDDY JAM.
AND HE WRITES A COUPLE OF
GREAT BOOKS -- I'VE READ TWO
OF THEM, ACTUALLY.
AND THEY'RE MORE OR LESS FOR
CHILDREN WHOSE AGES ARE
AROUND -- I KNOW A
SIX-YEAR-OLD -- NOT A
SIX-YEAR-OLD, AN
EIGHT-YEAR-OLD WHO'S READING
THAT BOOK RIGHT NOW AND
LOVES IT ABSOLUTELY LOVES T.
TUM.

Jeffrey says BUT YOU
KNOW, HIS VERY FIRST BOOK,
NIGHT CARS WAS REALLY FOR
VERY SMALL CHILDREN.
IT'S A NIGHT TIME LULLABY,
VERY MUCH IN THE TRADITION
OF “GOOD NIGHT MOON” AND
THEN HE'S GOT PICTURE BOOKS
FOR SORT OF THE YOUNGER SET
WITH “Dr. KISS SAYS YES” AND
“JACOB'S BEST SISTERS” AND
THEN HE WAS EMBARKING ON A
SERIES OF PICTURE BOOKS FOR
OLDER KIDS THAT LOOKED AT
ONTARIO AND CANADIAN
HISTORY, AND THE LAST ONE
THAT HE DID WAS CALLED “THE
STONE BOLT” WHICH WAS ABOUT
SMALL TOWN LIFE IN THE '20s
ON A FAMILY FARM THAT'S
UNDER THREAT BECAUSE, OF
COURSE, THERE'S NO MONEY.
AND IT'S A VERY -- I MEAN,
HE DID BEAUTIFUL, BEAUTIFUL
PICTURE BOOKS.

Maureen says REALLY?
OKAY.

Charmain says WHY DID
HE NOT USE HIS NAME, MATT
COHEN?

Jeffrey says HE WANTED
TO KEEP THAT TOTALLY
SEPARATE, AND HE FELT THAT
THERE WAS AN OFFER WHO WAS
IN THE PUBLIC EYE IN THE WAY
THAT HE WOULD HAVE BEEN,
WOULD HAVE BEEN UNDER TOO
MUCH PRESSURE.
AND THIS, HE FELT HE WAS
TOTALLY LIBERATED.

Maureen says I KNOW IN
HISTORICAL FICTION THAT
HAPPENS, TOO, DOESN'T IT
JEFFERY, GENE PLATEY IS,
PHILIP PAKAR ARE, AREN'T
THEY?

Jeffrey says YES, I
THINK THEY'RE ALL --
HARVARD VINE AND RUTH
RANDOLPH.

Maureen says I WONDER IF AN
OFFER IS SEEN TO HAVE
WRITTEN TOO MANY TITLES,
PEOPLE THINK “YOU CAN'T PUT
A LOT OF TIME INTO THAT IF
YOU'RE CRANKING THEM OUT SO
OFTEN.”
I DON'T KNOW IF THAT ENTERED
INTO --

Jeffrey says WELL, I
THINK THAT MAY BE ANOTHER
CONSIDERATION, AND I THINK
THE OTHER THING, TOO, IS
THAT YOU GET USED -- YOU
KNOW, PEOPLE SAY “WELL WHY
ARE YOU DOING IT?”
YOU KNOW, “WHY ARE YOU
WRITING FOR CHILDREN?
WHERE'S THAT ADULT BOOK?”
AND SO I THINK HE WANTED TO
KEEP IT TOTALLY SEPARATE
FROM HIS OTHER WRITING LIFE
AND JUST HAVE FUN WITH IT.

Charmain says WHICH
HE DID, VERY WELL.

Maureen says WELL LET'S START
WITH SOME OF YOUR
RECOMMENDATIONS OTHER THAN
MATT COHEN, “ELIZABETH AND
AFTER” CHARMAIN.

Charmain says OKAY.
Showing a book, Charmain continues ONE OF THE ONES I WANT TO
RECOMMEND IS “PAULA” BY
ISABEL AELENDE.
AND THE REASON WHY I
SELECTED “PAULA” WAS THIS
WAS MY INTRODUCTION TO
ISABELLE AELENDE AND I CHOSE
THESE AMONGST THE OTHER
BOOKS SHE'S WRITTEN SIMPLY
BECAUSE I'M A MOTHER AND SHE
ALSO WAS A MOTHER, AND SHE
WROTE THIS BOOK TO HER
DAUGHTER PAULA WHO WAS
DIAGNOSED WITH A BLOOD
DISEASE AND WENT INTO A
COMA.
AND IT'S ACTUALLY A VERY SAD
STORY.
IT'S SAD BECAUSE HER
DAUGHTER NEVER WOKE UP TO
READ ABOUT IT.
AND IT STARTED OUT
ORIGINALLY AS A LETTER THAT
AELENDE WAS WRITING TO PAULA
IN HOPES THAT THIS WOULD BE
A PRESENT TO HER SO THAT
WHEN SHE WOKE UP SHE WOULD
HAVE THIS.
AND WHAT IT IS IS A -- IT'S
A MEMOIRE.
A REALLY HEART-RENTING
MEMOIRE.
AND IN IT SHE TELLS PAULA
ABOUT WHO SHE, ISABELLE
AELENDE IS, WHAT THEIR
FAMILY HAS GONE THROUGH,
WHAT ALL HER ANCESTORS ARE
LIKE, THE HISTORY.
IN FACT SHE GIVES PAULA
GREAT DETAILS ABOUT ISABEL'S
UNCLE WHO WAS SALVATORE
AELENDE WHO USED TO BE THE
PRESIDENT OF CHILE BEFORE
THE MILITARY COUP IN '73
WHEN THE DICTATORSHIP TOOK
OVER.
AND SHE TELLS ABOUT THE
EXILE AND WHAT IT WAS LIKE
TO BE THROWN OUT OF YOUR
COUNTRY.
WHERE YOU BELONG.
WHERE YOU LIVE.
AND HOW THEY HAD TO SORT OF
UPROOT THEMSELVES AND START
ALL OVER AGAIN.
BUT AT THE SAME TIME THEY
CAME FROM AN ARISTOCRAT
PARTICULAR FAMILY SO IT
WASN'T THAT DIFFICULT FROM
THEM -- FOR THEM.
AND SHE JUST GOES ON AND
SPINS THIS TALE.
IT STARTS OUT AS A LETTER
AND THE NEXT THING YOU KNOW,
SHE KEPT WRITING AND WRITING
BECAUSE THE COMA LASTED AND
LASTED AND IT DEVELOPED INTO
THIS BOOK.

Maureen says DOES IT MAKE YOU
WANT TO READ OTHER WORKS BY
HER?

Charmain says
ABSOLUTELY AND WHAT'S
FASCINATING ABOUT HER AS
WELL IS THE FACT WHAT SHE
WRITES IN HER NATIVE TONGUE
AND THE TRANSLATOR DOES AN
ABSOLUTELY BRILLIANT JOB IN
THE TRANSLATION AND DOESN'T
LOSE --

Maureen says THAT'S TRICKY.

Charmain says EXACTLY,
AND DOESN'T LOSE THE ESSENCE
OF THE STORY.

Maureen says JEFFERY, DO YOU
WANT TO DO ONE THIS AND THEN
WE'LL GET TO SOME QUESTIONS.

Holding two books, Jeffrey says SURE.
I'LL START WITH A PAIR OF
BOOKS.
IT LOOKS BIGGER THAN IT IS
BUT IT'S QUITE WONDERFUL.

Maureen says ONE OF YOUR
FAVOURITE AUTHORS.

Jeffrey says HE'S A
GREAT FANTASY WRITER.
GUY GAVRIEL KAY, “SAILING TO
SARANTIUM” AND IT'S SEQUEL
“LORD OF THE EMPERORS” CAN
AND I THINK YOU WOULD LOVE
THIS BECAUSE IT'S BASED ON
THE HISTORY OF SARANTIUM,
THE REAL ONE, AND IT'S GOT A
FANTASY BENT TO IT.
WE DON'T WORRY ABOUT ALL THE
LITTLE NITTY GRITTY
HISTORICAL DETAILS BUT IT'S
A GREAT STORY.
IT'S ABOUT THE RISE OF AN
EMPIRE AND THE PLACE OF
POLITICS IN THAT EMPIRE,
ARTISTRY.
YOU KNOW, THERE'S SO MANY
DIFFERENT STORYLINES.
ONE OF THE CHARACTERS IS
CRISPIN, A MOSAICIST WHO
COMES ALL THE WAY THROUGH
VERY ROUGH TERRITORY TO DO
THIS MOW SAYS I CAN WORK FOR
THIS GRAND NEW TEMPLE THAT
THE EMPEROR IS DOING.

Maureen says A MOSAICIST, I
LIKE THAT WORD!

Jeffrey says I THOUGHT
YOU WOULD LIKE THAT.
IT'S BETWEEN POLITICS OF
WHO'S IN POWER, WHO'S NOT IN
POWER, WHO WANTS TO BE IN
POWER, HOW MILITARY STUFF
WORKS.

Maureen says IS IT A TRILOGY?

Jeffrey says NO, IT'S
JUST THE TWO BOOKS AND
THEY'RE REALLY -- THEY'RE
ACCESSIBLE, EASY TO READ,
AND TOTALLY FASCINATING.
I MEAN, YOU GET HOOKED UP
INTO THEM, AND THE FIRST
BOOK WAS GOOD, BUT LORD OF
EMPERORS WAS EVEN BETTER.

Maureen says SO LET'S GET
THOSE TITLES AGAIN.

Jeffrey says SAILING
TO “SARANTIUM” AND “LORD OF
EMPERORS” BY GUY GAVRIEL
KAY.

Maureen says AND YOURS IS.

Charmain says ISABEL
ALENDE AND IT'S “PAULA.”

Maureen says LETS GET TO SOME CALLS,
SUSAN IS IN ORTON.

Susan says HI.

Maureen says WHAT ABOUT YOU?
WHAT ARE YOU READING?

Susan says I JUST FINISHED A
BOOK CALLED “A HEARTBREAKING
WORK OF STAGGERING GENIUS.”
AND I KNOW HE'S THE FOUNDING
EDITOR OF A MAGAZINE BUT I
KNOW NOTHING ELSE ABOUT HIM.
AND I WONDER IF YOU COULD
FILL ME INTO ANY OTHER WORKS
HE'S DONE.

Jeffrey says I DON'T
THINK HE'S DONE ANY -- I
THINK THIS IS HIS FIRST BOOK
BUT IT IS SUPPOSED TO BE A
WINNER FROM EVERYTHING I'VE
HEARD.

Maureen says SUSAN, CAN YOU
TELL US A LITTLE BIT ABOUT
IT?

Susan says UM, WELL, IT'S A
KIND OF A GENERATION-X NOVEL
BUT NOT REALLY.
I'M REALLY NOT A BIG FAN OF
THOSE.
I'M 29 YEARS OLD AND
ALTHOUGH I FALL INTO THAT
AGE GROUP, I DON'T REALLY
LIKE THEM.
BUT THIS ONE I REALLY DID.
AND IT'S THE STORY ABOUT A
BOY WHO WHEN HE -- WELL, A
MAN WHEN HE'S 21, BOTH HIS
PARENTS DIVE CANCER WITHIN
FIVE WEEKS OF EACH OTHER AND
HE IS LEFT WITH HIS
SEVEN-YEAR-OLD BROTHER.
AND HOW HE DEALS WITH THAT.
AND THEY MOVE OUT TO BERKLEY,
CALIFORNIA, AND IT'S A TRUE
STORY.

Maureen says OH!
KIND OF A PARTY OF TWO
STORYLINE.
AND IT'S A NOVEL THOUGH,
RIGHT?

Susan says THAT'S RIGHT.
WELL, IT IS A NOVEL, BUT
IT'S BASED ON A TRUE STORY.

Maureen says BASED ON A TRUE
STORY.
AND IT IS HIS FIRST BOOK, AS
I UNDERSTAND IT.
SORRY, CAN YOU GIVE US THE
AUTHOR'S NAME AGAIN?

Susan says DAVE EGGERS.

Maureen says E-G-G --

Susan says E-G-G-ER-R-S AND
I KNOW HE'S ALSO NOW AN
EDITOR OF McSWEEN KNEE'S.
DO YOU KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT
THAT?

Jeffrey says THAT IS
ONE OF THE BIG LITERARY
MAGAZINES AND SORRY, ONE OF
THE BIG ON THE EDGE
PUBLICATIONS.
FOR EXAMPLE THE CURRENT
ISSUE OF McSWEENEY'S CAME IN
A BOX, AND THERE ARE
ABOUT -- I CAN'T REMEMBER
THE NUMBER OF CHAP BOOKS BUT
IT'S ALL MADE UP OF SMALL
CHAP BOOKS, SOME BY WRITER
WHOSE ARE, YOU KNOW, STILL
UNKNOWN, BUT THAT THE
EDITORS THINK WE SHOULD KNOW
OF.
AND THEN OTHERS WHO ARE, YOU
KNOW, SOME OF THE
UP-AND-COMING CURRENT CROP
OF YOUNG WRITERS.

Maureen says IN FACT A LITTLE
BIRD HAS TOLD ME THAT HE'S
COMING TO TORONTO NEXT WEEK
TO THE HORSESHOE TAVERN.

Jeffrey says THERE YOU
ARE.

Maureen says POSSIBLY TO GIVE
A READING AND TO ANSWER
QUESTIONS SO THERE YOU GO.
DAVE EGGERS.
THANK YOU, SUSAN.

Susan says THANK YOU.

Maureen says HERE'S ONE VIA
E-MAIL FROM KEVIN.
She turns to a computer screen and reads “I AM PRESENTLY READING AN
ADVANCED COPY OF “THE
TOUGHEST INDIAN IN THE
WORLD” BY CRITICALLY
ACCLAIMED AUTHOR SHERMAN
ALEKSEI, AUTHOR OF “THE LONE
RANGER” AND “TANTO FISTFIGHT
IN HEAVEN” MADE INTO THE
MOVIE “SMOKE SIGNALS.”
THIS IS A BEAUTIFUL, FUNNY
AND SAD STORY, DUE OUT LATER
THIS MONTH AND I HIGHLY
RECOMMEND IT.

Jeffrey says YEAH,
ALEXEI IS QUITE A
CONTROVERSIAL WRITER BECAUSE
HE IS VERY MUCH IN THE
POLITICAL CORRECTNESS DEBATE
IN THE STATES ABOUT WHO
SHOULD WRITE ABOUT WHAT.

Maureen says IS HE NOT
AMERICAN INDIAN HIMSELF?

Jeffrey says HE IS,
AND HE DOESN'T BELIEVE THAT
PEOPLE WHO ARE NOT SHOULD BE
WRITING --

Charmain says SHOULD
BE WRITING.

Maureen says APPROPRIATION.

Charmain says YEAH,
SORT OF LIKE SPIKE LEE NOT
LETTING ANYBODY SHOOT FILMS
ABOUT BLACK PEOPLE.

Jeffrey says BUT HE
DOES WRITE FICTION THAT'S
FUN AND ACCESSIBLE.
ALTHOUGH I HAVE TO SAY THERE
ARE OTHER NATIVE WRITERS
ALSO DOING GREAT BOOKS,
PEOPLE LIKE TOM KING, FOR
EXAMPLE, A CANADIAN NATIVE
WRITER WHO'S WRITTEN SOME
FABULOUS BOOKS.
AND THERE ARE A LOT OF -- I
MEAN IN THE STATES WE HAVE A
SMALLER HISTORY OF
PUBLISHING ORIGINAL WORKS BY
NATIVE CANADIANS.
AND I MEAN, MANY OF OUR BEST
NATIVE WRITERS ARE PEOPLE
LIKE, FOR EXAMPLE, THOMPSON
HIGHWAY, THE PLAYWRIGHT.
AND SO I MEAN HE HASN'T
WRITTEN AS MUCH FICTION,
ALTHOUGH HE DOES HAVE THE
ONE NOVEL “KISS OF THE FUR
QUEEN.”
BUT THERE'S LOTS IN THE
STATES.
PEOPLE LIKE N SCOTT MOOMADAY
AND FABULOUS WRITER WHOSE
ARE REALLY EXPRESSING
SOMETHING ABOUT THE LIVES OF
NATIVE PEOPLES.

Maureen says OKAY.
SO THAT'S SHERMAN ALEKSEI
“THE TOUGHEST INDIAN IN THE
WORLD.”
THANK YOU, KEVIN.
DIANA'S IN DONE VILLE.
HI DIANA.

Diana says HI.
HOW ARE YOU TODAY?

Maureen says WE'RE GOOD
THANKS.

Diana says I'M GOOD.
I'M EATING ICE-CREAM HERE.

Maureen says GOOD.
IT'S THE DAY FOR IT.

Charmain and Charmain laugh.

Diana says THAT'S FOR SURE.

Maureen says TELL US WHAT
YOU'VE READ.

Diana says WELL IT'S NOT
PARTICULARLY WHAT I'VE READ.
I READ A LOT OF STEPHEN KING
AND WHAT I'D LIKE TO ASK
ABOUT IS THERE ANY OTHER
CANADIAN WRITERS IN THE
CANADIAN LITERARY POOL THAT
I COULD READ THAT ARE
SOMETHING SIMILAR TO HIM?

Jeffrey says SO KIND
OF LIKE HORROR?

Diana says BAD HORROR.

Jeffrey says WELL, NO,
BUT THERE'S A GREAT -- IN
FACT THERE'S A FABULOUS
TORONTO WRITER, HER NAME IS
TANYA HUFF, H-U-F-F AND SHE
HAS A SERIES OF BOOKS THAT
ARE ABOUT A VAMPIRE.
I THINK IT'S “BLOODLINES.”
AND “BLOOD PACT.”
I THINK THERE'S ABOUT FIVE
OR SIX OF THEM AND THEY'RE
REALLY GOOD BOOKS!
THEY'RE FAST, THEY'RE EASY
TO READ, THEY'RE VERY
ACCESSIBLE, THEY'RE NOT
HIGHLY LITERARY, BUT THEY'RE
REALLY GOOD STORIES.
AND THE OTHER PERSON IS A
WOMAN NAMED MICHELE SAGARA,
S-A-G-A-R-A AND SHE'S AGAIN
A TORONTO WRITER WHO'S AGAIN
DONE -- THEY'RE MORE IN THE
VAMPIRE VEIN BUT --

Maureen says YEAH, DON'T
VAMPIRES HANG OUT IN CLUBS
IN TORONTO?

Jeffrey says YES, THEY
DO.
ALTHOUGH MICHELE SAGARA'S
DOESN'T.
SHE'S GOT A WHOLE VAMPIRE
EPIC WORLD.

Maureen says I THINK VAMPIRES
NEED TO GO TO RAVES.
(laughing)

Jeffrey says BOTH OF
THOSE ARE REALLY FIRST
RATE --

Maureen says AND TANYA HUFF?

Charmain says TANYA.

Jeffrey says TANYA
HUFF AND MICHELE SAGARA.

Maureen says SPEAKING OF
STEPHEN KING WHAT DID YOU
THINK OF HIS -- I GUESS
YOU'D CALL IT AN ATTEMPT TO
RELEASE A BOOK ONLY OVER THE
INTERNET.
CAN YOU SEE YOURSELF,
CHARMAIN, LOGGING ON TO READ
A BOOK AT YOUR COMPUTER?

Charmain says NO.
NO, NOT AT ALL.
YOU KNOW WHAT?
I THINK THE INTERNET IS A
TERRIFIC THING, BUT I LOVE
BOOKS!
THERE'S SOMETHING ABOUT
CURLING UP IN BED OR CURLING
UP ON THE COUCH, OR CURLING
UP ON THE DOCK AND HAVING A
BOOK IN FRONT OF YOU AND
TURNING THE PAGES.

Jeffrey says YEAH.

Charmain says CAN I
NOT ENVISION MYSELF WITH A
COMPUTER AND DOING THAT.
I'M AT THE COMPUTER ENOUGH
AS IT IS, AND PERSONALLY I
DON'T WANT TO BE AT IT FOR
MY LEISURE TIME EITHER.

Jeffrey says YEAH.

Maureen says YEAH, THEY'D
HAVE TO MAKE THESE LAPTOPS A
WHOLE LOT SMALLER AND MORE
COMFORTABLE.

Jeffrey says WELL,
THAT'S IT.
AND I MEAN, AGAIN, YOU'RE
LOOKING AT YOUR SCREEN.
THERE WAS NO WAY -- YOU
COULDN'T PRINT THIS BOOK.
SO I MEAN I COULD SEE IF YOU
COULD PRINT A COPY OUT OF IT
AND THEN YOU COULD READ IT
OKAY, IT'S CLUMSY IF YOU DID
IT ON PAGES BUT YOU COULD
ONLY READ IT ON THE COMPUTER
SCREEN.

Maureen says I WAS WONDERING
ABOUT COPYRIGHT, TOO.
YOU COULDN'T CUT AND PASTE
IT AND SEND IT TO A FRIEND.

Jeffrey says AND
BASICALLY WHAT YOU COULD DO
IS YOU COULD READ IT ONCE.
YOU COULDN'T GO BACKWARDS, I
UNDERSTAND ON IT, SO YOU HAD
TO READ --

Charmain says
FORWARDS ONLY.

Maureen says IN --.

Jeffrey says IN A
FORWARD, LINEAR WAY AND WHEN
YOU WERE FINISHED.

Charmain says THAT
WAS IT.

Jeffrey says -- THAT
WAS IT YOU WERE DONE.
IT WASN'T VERY EXPENSIVE.
IT WAS SOMETHING LIKE 2
BUCKS U.S. TO READ.
SO I SUPPOSE THAT IF YOU
REALLY WANTED TO READ IT
AGAIN YOU COULD --

Maureen says YOU COULD PAY
AND GO BACK.

Jeffrey says BUT
STILL.

Maureen says AND HOW MANY
TIMES HAVE YOU GOT TO THE
ENDS OF THE BOOK AND IT WAS
A TOTAL SURPRISE SO YOU WENT
BACK TO THE BEGINNING TO SEE
IF THERE WAS A CLUE THERE
THAT YOU SHOULD HAVE CAUGHT
AND DIDN'T.

Charmain says AND YOU
WEREN'T ALLOWED TO DO THAT
WITH THIS.

Maureen says OKAY.
ALL RIGHT.
WE DON'T LIKE THAT THANK YOU,
DIANE.
JANE IS IN TORONTO.
HELLO, JANE?

Jane says HI.
I WAS LISTENING TO YOU WHEN
YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT MATT
COHEN, I JUST WANTED TO SAY
THAT, YOU KNOW, CERTAINLY
HIS BOOK IS REALLY GOOD, BUT
I THINK THERE WAS OTHER
CANADIAN BOOKS THIS YEAR
THAT WERE OVERLOOKED AND
MAYBE THAT'S BECAUSE THEY'RE
NOT AS TORONTO-CENTRIC, YOU
KNOW AND I'M THINKING OF
DONNA MORRISEY'S “KIT'S
LAW.”
THAT WAS A REALLY GOOD BOOK
FROM THE EAST COAST AND YOU
KNOW, WHAT OTHER BOOKS FROM
OTHER PARTS OF CANADA GET
OVERLOOKED.
AND WHEN YOU WERE TALKING
ABOUT NATIVE WRITER, EDEN
ROBINSON'S BOOK “MONKEY
BEACH” AS WELL DIDN'T GET
THAT MUCH PRESS AND I'M JUST
WONDERING THE SORT OF
TORONTO NATURE OF THE BOOK
CLUB.

Maureen says WELL IT MAY BE
ONTARIO-CENTRIC BUT THIS IS
NOT AN ONTARIO BOOK.
AND SMALL TOWN ONTARIO,
SOMETIMES HATE TORONTO MORE
THAN B.C.

Jeffrey says AND IN
FACT I WOULD HAVE TO SAY
THAT THE GOVERNOR'S GENERAL
AWARDS IS NOT A
TORONTO-CENTRIC AWARD,
REALLY.
IT HAS OFTEN RECOGNIZED
WRITERS FROM RIGHT ACROSS
THE COUNTRY.
IN FACT OFTEN HAS MADE
CHOICES THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT
TORONTO LITERARY SCENE FINDS
KIND OF WHACKY BECAUSE
THEY'RE SMALLER
PUBLICATIONS --

Maureen says WELL THAT'S OKAY
BUT --

Jeffrey says NO, NO,
THAT'S OKAY.
BUT WHAT I'M SAYING IS I
DON'T THINK THAT THAT AWARD
REFLECTED THAT.
AND EDEN ROBINSON GOT
TONS -- SHE MAY NOT HAVE
BEEN NOMINATED FOR THE
AWARD.
I MEAN, I'M NOT SURE WHEN
“MONKEY BEACH” ACTUALLY CAME
OUT IT MAY IN FACT BE A
JANUARY BOOK, IN WHICH CASE
IT WOULD BE UP FOR THIS
FALL'S AWARD.
BUT SHE GOT A TON OF
PUBLICITY, AND IN FACT SHE
GOT FAR MORE PUBLICITY THAN
MATT COHEN DID FOR
“ELIZABETH AND AFTER.”

Maureen says EVEN AFTER HE
WON THE AWARD THOUGH?
DON'T YOU THINK WITH THE
AWARD COMES --

Jeffrey says NO, NO.
BECAUSE BASICALLY ALL THEY
SAY IS MATT COHEN WON THE
AWARD.
AND THEN OF COURSE WHEN MATT
DIED THERE WERE OBITUARIES
BUT IT WASN'T THE SAME KIND
OF BUZZ.
I MEAN, THERE WAS A REAL
MOMENTUM ABOUT EDEN
ROBINSON'S “MONKEY BEACH.”

Maureen says WHAT ABOUT THE
OTHER ONE SHE MENTIONED,
“KIT'S LAW”?
HAVE YOU READ, CHARMAIN?

Charmain says NO,
THAT'S AN EAST COAST WRITER.
I THINK IT'S NOVA SCOTIA,
TOO.

Maureen says THIS ONE
WOULDN'T HAVE QUALIFIED
BECAUSE IT'S OVER A YEAR
OLD.
WAYNE JOHNSTON'S “CONNIE OF
UNREQUITED DREAMS” I READ
THIS YEAR, AND EAST COAST
WRITER ABOUT NEWFOUNDLAND
AND JOEY SMALLWOOD.
AND I LOVED THAT BOOK.

Jeffrey says AND LOOK
AT THE BUZZ THAT'S RECEIVED.

Maureen says YEAH.

Jeffrey says YOU KNOW,
IT'S HAD HUGE COVERAGE.

Maureen says WELL THE “NEW
YORK TIMES”!
THE “NEW YORK TIMES.”
MAGAZINE I, GUESS.

Jeffrey says “NEW YORK
TIMES” BOOK REVIEW, FRONT
PAGE OF THE “NEW YORK
TIMES.”
YOU THINK IT'S THE FIRST
CANADIAN BOOK TO HAVE
RECEIVED THAT KIND OF, YOU
KNOW, HUGE COVERAGE.

Maureen says I PERSONALLY
LIKED IT.
SOME PEOPLE DON'T.
I KNOW IT'S PARTLY BASED
ON -- WELL, IT IS BASED ON
JOEY SMALLWOOD BUT SOME
THINGS IN IT ARE FICTICIOUS.
BUT I RECOMMEND IT.
IT'S REALLY GOOD.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, JANE.
ROBERT IS IN TORONTO.
HELLO ROBERT.

Robert says HELLO THERE.

Maureen says HI.
WHAT ARE YOU
READING OR HAVE YOU READ?

Robert says WELL, I'M IN THE
PROCESS OF READING A BOOK I
THINK IS RATHER INTERESTING.
I HAVEN'T GOT TO THE END OF
IT YET.
“THE AFTERLIFE OF JOHN
CARTWRIGHT” BY JOHN
STETTLER.
ARE YOU FAMILIAR WITH THAT?

Jeffrey says YES.

Maureen says TELL US ABOUT
THAT.

Robert says IT'S THE STORY OF
A MAN WHO'S DIED AND HE'S
CURRENTLY TRAVELLING,
STARTED OUT IN ENGLAND BUT
HE KEEPS REVERTING TO HIS
PAST.
DIFFERENT -- SOMETHING WILL
REMIND HIM, AND THEN HE'LL
BE BACK IN LABRADOR OR
SOMEWHERE.

Maureen says MM-HMM.

Robert says IT'S A RATHER
STRANGE BOOK BUT I FOUND IT
FASCINATING SO FAR AND I
WONDERED IF YOU KNOW
ANYTHING ABOUT HIM.
HE WAS BORN IN TORONTO
APPARENTLY.
AT THE TIME THIS WAS
PUBLISHED HE LIVED IN
NEWFOUNDLAND.
IT WAS PUBLISHED IN '92
INITIALLY AND AGAIN THIS
ISSUE I THINK CAME OUT IN
'94.

Maureen says SO IT'S A FEW
YEARS OLD NOW THIS BOOK.

Robert says PARDON?

Maureen says IT'S A FEW YEARS
OLD, THIS BOOK.

Robert says YEAH, A FEW YEARS
OLD.
I PICKED IT UP AT A BOOK
SALE AND IT INTRIGUED ME.
GOT TREMENDOUS REVIEWS, BUT
WHICH ONE HASN'T.
BUT “BRILLIANT” “MAGIC.”
“STUNTING.”

Maureen says GIVE US THE NAME
AND TITLE AGAIN?

Robert says YEAH, JOHN
STEFFLER.
TWO Fs, L.-E-R, AND S AS IN
SAM.
“THE AFTER-LIFE OF GEORGE
CARTWRIGHT.

Maureen says GREAT.
THANKS FOR TELLING US ABOUT
IT.

Robert says IF YOU CAN TELL
ME ANYTHING ABOUT JOHN
STEFFLER, I'D APPRECIATE IT.

Maureen says I DON'T THINK
THEY CAN.

Jeffrey says THAT
WASN'T HIS FIRST BOOK.
HE'S CERTAINLY SOMEONE WHO
IS ON THE SCENE BUT HASN'T
BEEN -- YOU KNOW HE'S IN, HE
ISN'T SORT OF ONE OF THE BIG
NAMES.

Maureen says NO.

Jeffrey says NO.

Maureen says SORRY WE CAN'T
TELL YOU MORE ABOUT IT.
COULD WE TALK A LITTLE BIT
ABOUT THE OTHER BOOKS YOU'VE
BROUGHT IN CHARMAIN?
OH “BRIGIT JONES DIARY.”
OH, IT'S NOT THE NEW ONE.

Charmain says NO, IT
ISN'T, AS A MATTER OF FACT,
WHICH IS WHY I BROUGHT IT.
“EDGE OF REASON” IS THE ONE
EVERYONE'S TALKING ABOUT NOW
BECAUSE IT'S HELLEN
FIELDING'S SECOND PART OF
THE SEQUEL “BRIGIT JONES.”
“BRIDGETTE JONES' DIARY” IS
THE ORIGINAL AND I KNOW A
LOT OF PEOPLE AFTER READING
REVIEWS AND GONE OUT AND
STARTED WITH “EDGE OF
REASON” BUT I HIGHLY
RECOMMEND YOU START WITH
“BRIGIT JONES' DIARY.”
YOU DON'T HAVE TO, IT'S NOT
IMPERATIVE TO START WITH
BOOK ONE BUT THE REASON YOU
SHOULD START WITH A DIARY IS
BECAUSE IT GIVES YOU GREAT
INSIGHT.
ARE YOU FAMILIAR WITH THE
DIARY?

Maureen says I READ THE DIARY,
I LOVE IT.

Charmain says IT IS
JUST GREAT, IT'S GIRLS' TALE,
AND IT'S SO MUCH FUN BUT NOT
JUST EXCLUSIVE TO WOMEN.
MEN CAN READ THIS AS WELL
AND JUST LAUGH THEIR HEADS
OFF.
AND THE REASON I LOVED IT IS
BECAUSE IT'S ABOUT WOMEN IN
THE 20-SOMETHING AGE, AS IN
29, APPROACHING 30, NOT
MARRIED, OH, MY GOD!
WHAT AM I GOING TO DO?!
WHERE'S THE MAN?
AND SHE'S JUST VERY, VERY
FUNNY.
EXTREMELY COMICAL IN A VERY
BRITISH WAY.
AND I JUST FOUND IT A
PAGE-TURNER.
JUST KEPT GOING.

Maureen asks NOW HAVE YOU
READ “EDGE OF REASON?”

Charmain replies I'M
STARTING TO READ NOW AND
IT'S THE SAME READ.
IT'S GREAT.
BUT YOU KNOW WHAT THE
DIFFERENCE IS?
WELL NOW WE'RE MARRIED.
YOU KNOW?
AND WHAT'S IT LIKE?
AND NOW THAT YOU'RE MARRIED,
AND WHAT'S THAT SCENE LIKE.

Maureen says YOU KNOW WHAT
HAPPENS ON SITCOMS AS SOON
AS THEY GET KIDS.
THE RATINGS GO DOWN.

Charmain says WELL,
KIDS AND -- EXACTLY RIGHT.

Maureen says WOULD YOU PICK
UP THAT BOOK, JEFFERY?

Jeffrey says WELL, YOU
KNOW I DID.
I DID READ IT MY SISTER HAD
READ IT AND SO SHE SAID AT
THE END OF IT I WOULDN'T BUY
IT BUT I WOULDN'T MIND --

He laughs.

Maureen says SOMEBODY LENDING
IT TO YOU.

Jeffrey says SO I DID
READ IT, AND YOU KNOW, I
CAN'T REALLY RAVE ABOUT IT.
UM, I THOUGHT IT WAS PRETTY
SUPERFICIAL.
IT WASN'T MY TYPE OF BOOK AT
ALL.
IT WASN'T EVEN -- I DIDN'T
EVEN FIND IT THAT FUNNY.

Charmain says YOU
DIDN'T?
I LOVED IT!

Jeffrey says THERE
WERE PARTS OF IT I THOUGHT
WERE HYSTERICAL, BUT AGAIN,
YOU KNOW, I THINK IT'S -- I
HATE TO SAY, I THINK IT'S
THIS IT GUY-GIRL THING.

Maureen says YEAH, JEFFERY --

Jeffrey says I REALLY
DON'T -- YOU KNOW, I
WOULDN'T HAVE BELIEVED IT.
I REALLY WOULD HAVE SAID TO
YOU THAT MEN CAN ENJOY
ANYTHING THAT WOMEN WRITE
AND WOMEN -- BUT THERE ARE
SOME BOOKS.

Charmain says EXCEPT
THIS?

Jeffrey says WELL, YOU
KNOW, IT JUST DIDN'T -- I
DIDN'T CARE.
I DIDN'T CARE ABOUT --

Maureen says THAT'S HOW I
FELT ABOUT CARL!
I DIDN'T CARE ABOUT CARL!

Jeffrey says WELL SEE?
BUT AT LEAST CARL HAD A
STORY.
I MEAN, BRIGIT?!
OH, GOD, IF SHE WENT TO ONE
MORE PARTY AND WORRIED ABOUT
HER WEIGHT AND HER HAIR --

Charmain says AND
WHETHER SHE WAS SMOKING TOO
MUCH OR DRINKING TOO MUCH.

Jeffrey says I MUST
SAY, THERE WERE MOMENTS OF
GREAT HILL LAIRT TEE IN
“BRIGIT JONES.”
THERE WERE MOMENTS WHERE I
REALLY DID, I JUST SAT THERE
AND LAUGHED AND LAUGHED.
I THOUGHT IT STARTED OUT
FABULOUSLY AND THEN IT
JUST -- FOR ME IT WAS TOO
LONG.

Maureen says WELL WE'RE NOT
SAYING IT'S GREAT LITERATURE
BUT IT'S A FUN READ.

Charmain says A FUN
READ.

Jeffrey says NO, NO.
I DON'T KNOW, THOUGH, IF I'D
READ “EDGE OF REASON.”

Maureen says I THINK I'M IN
THE SAME -- I WON'T BUY IT
BUT IF SOMEBODY WANTS TO
LEND IT TO YOU TO ME I'LL
READ IT.”
Maureen turns to the computer and reads TALIA SAYS “I'M NOT SURE IF
YOU MENTIONED THIS BOOK BUT
I JUST STARTED READING
“AFTER IMAGE” BY HELLEN
HUMPHREYS.”
DO YOU KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT
THIS AUTHOR AND CAN YOU
SUGGEST A SIMILAR BOOK I
MIGHT LIKE?
BY THE WAY, I SAW THE
GENTLEMEN, JEFFERY, WALKING
NEAR THE AGO YESTERDAY WITH
A BOOK IN HIS HAND.
DO YOU EVER STOP READING?
I CAN'T READ AND WALK.”
WERE YOU READING WHILE YOU
WERE WALKING?

Jeffrey says YEAH,
PROBABLY.
I ALWAYS READ AND WALK.

Maureen says YOU'RE GOING TO
BUMP INTO --

Jeffrey says NO,
EVERYBODY SAYS THIS.
IN 20-ODD YEARS, I'VE BEEN
DOING THIS SINCE I WAS AT U.
OF T. SO I WAS 18 THEN AND
I'M GOING TO BE 41 THE WEEK
AFTER NEXT.
I HAVE ONLY ONCE EVER HAD AN
ACCIDENT.
ONCE.

Charmain laughs.

Maureen says AND YOU READ
WHILE YOU WALK?

Jeffrey says YEAH, YES,
ABSOLUTELY.

Maureen says OKAY, EVERYBODY
BE ON THE LOOK OUT FOR THAT.

He chuckles.

Maureen continues WHAT DO YOU KNOW ABOUT
“AFTER IMAGE” AND HELLEN
HUMPHREYS?

Jeffrey says THIS IS
HER SECOND NOVEL.
HER FIRST ONE “LEAVING THE
CITY EARTH” WON THE TORONTO
BOOK AWARD WHICH IS A
DIFFERENT KIND OF BOOK BUT
VERY BEAUTIFUL, TOO.
SHE'S REALLY GOOD ON
LANGUAGE.
SHE'S A POET AS WELL.
I DON'T KNOW HER POETRY BUT
YOU REALLY CAN SEE IT IN HER
FICTION.
AND “AFTERLIFE” IS THE STORY
OF A HOUSE MAID WHO IN THE
1860s GOES TO WORK AT THE
HOME OF THE DASHELS.
HE'S A CARTOGRAPHER AND IS
TRYING TO PUT TOGETHER A MAP
OF THE WORLD, AND SHE'S A
BUDDING PHOTOGRAPHER.
AND THE ISABELLE DASHEL
WHO'S THE PHOTOGRAPHER, IS
LOOSELY BASED ON JULIA
MARGARET CAMERON, WHO IS ONE
OF THE FAMOUS EARLY
PHOTOGRAPHERS IN THE 1860s.
I THINK SHE WAS -- SHE'S IN
THE BLOOMSBURY CLAN,
SOMEWHERE THERE.
AND WAS REALLY QUITE A
PIONEER IN PHOTOGRAPHY.

Maureen says YOU KNOW WHAT
THAT MAKES ME THINK OF?
CATHERINE GAUVIER'S “ANGEL
WALK.”
I WONDER IF TALIA WOULD LIKE
THAT?

Jeffrey says CERTAINLY
BECAUSE AGAIN LOOKING AT THE
WORLD THROUGH IMAGES.

Maureen says THROUGH
PHOTOGRAPHY, A WOMAN
PHOTOGRAPHER IN WORLD WAR --
I THINK IT WAS --

Jeffrey says TWO, I
THINK.

Maureen says TWO?
DO YOU THINK?
I CAN'T REMEMBER BECAUSE HER
LOVE INTEREST IN THAT BOOK,
IN “ANGEL WALK” WAS AN
ILLUSTRATOR.
REMEMBER?
BEFORE THEY HAD PHOTOGRAPHY,
THEY WOULD SEND PEOPLE OUT
TO DO ILLUSTRATION THE.

Jeffrey says MAYBE IT
WAS WORLD WAR I.

Maureen says IT MIGHT BE.
CATHERINE IF YOU'RE WATCHING
WE APOLOGIZE FOR NOT
REMEMBERING.
I READ THAT BOOK A LONG TIME
AGO.
BUT “ANGEL WALK.”
IT'S 1:30, LET ME JUST
REMIND PEOPLE JOINING US
THAT WE'VE CONVENED THE
“MORE TO LIFE” BOOK CLUB
THIS AFTERNOON WITH JEFFERY
CANTON AND CHARMAIN EMERSON.
THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT BOOKS
THAT THEY'VE READ RECENTLY
AND WE'D LIKE TO HEAR WHAT
YOU'RE READING.

A caption appears on screen showing the two phone numbers.

Maureen continues I HAVE A COUPLE
OF COPIES OF “THE DROWNING
PEOPLE” BY RICHARD MASON TO
GIVE AWAY BECAUSE THIS IS
OUR SELECTION FOR NEXT
MONTH.
CHARMAIN, DO YOU WANT TOLL
US A LITTLE BIT ABOUT “THE
DROWNING PEOPLE?”

Charmain says IT'S
GREAT BOOK!
FIRST OF ALL I'LL GIVE YOU A
LITTLE BIT OF AN AUTHOR
BACKGROUND.
RICHARD MASON WAS 19 AT THE
TIME WHEN HE WROTE THAT
NOVEL.
21 WHEN IT WAS PUB LIRBD IN
THE U.K.
SOUTH AFRICAN BACKGROUND,
SCHOOLED IN ENGLAND, AND
SCHOOLED AT THE BEST SCHOOL
YOU COULD POSSIBLY THINK OF,
WHICH IS EATON COLLEGE.
HE'S NOW AT OXFORD.
THERE WAS A HUGE
CONTROVERSY AT THE TIME WHEN
THAT PARTICULAR NOVEL WAS
GOING TO BE PUBLISHED.
THERE WERE PUBLISHING HOUSES
FIGHTING FOR IT AND THEY
WANTED A TWO-BOOK DEAL.
AND WHEN HE SIGNED HE SIGNED
FOR THE HIGHEST BOOK DEAL
EVER IN THE HISTORY OF THE
U.K.

Maureen says REALLY?!

Charmain says AND HE
WAS ONLY 21 YEARS OLD AT THE
TIME.
SO NEEDLESS TO SAY, HE
CAUSED QUITE A SENSATION SO
WHEN THE BOOK FINALLY CAME
OUT, PEOPLE READ IT,
OBVIOUSLY WITH A VERY
CRITICAL EYE.
AND WHAT THEY FOUND WAS THEY
COULDN'T BE THAT CRITICAL
ABOUT IT BECAUSE ALTHOUGH HE
WAS 19 YEARS OLD AT THE TIME,
HE KNOWS HOW TO SPIN A TALE.
THIS HAS GOT SUSPENSE, THIS
HAS GOT ROMANCE, THIS HAS
GOT MURDER, THIS HAS GOT
REVENGE, THIS HAS IT ALL!
AND IT MOVES FROM THE VERY
FIRST PAGE, WHICH IS REALLY
KIND OF INTERESTING.
AND I DON'T KNOW IF WE COULD
JUST QUICKLY SORT OF... IN
THE VERY FIRST PAGE WHAT HE
TALKS ABOUT IN THE PROLOGUE,
HE SAYS “MY WIFE OF MORE
THAN 45 YEARS SHOT HERSELF
YESTERDAY AFTERNOON.
AT LEAST THAT'S WHAT THE
POLICE ASSUME.
AND I'M PLAYING THE PART OF
A GRIEVING WIDOWER WITH
ENTHUSIASM AND SUCCESS.”

Maureen says YEAH, WONDERFUL
OPENING BECAUSE RIGHT NOW
YOU KNOW.

Charmain says IT'S
GREAT OPENING AND FROM THERE
ON IT JUST MOVES.
IT ABSOLUTELY MOVES.

Maureen says AND WE WOULD
NEVER DO THIS.
WE WOULD NEVER LET
JEFFERY -- YOU KNOW, ANYBODY
DO THIS IF IT WAS A WOMAN,
BUT JUST CHECK THE PICTURE
ON THE BACK COVER.
HE'S A BABE, OKAY?!
(LAUGHING)
I'M SORRY.
I MEAN, HOW OFTEN CAN YOU
SAY THAT AND GET AWAY WITH
IT?
(LAUGHING)
LET'S GO TO PORSHA IN
TORONTO.
HI PORSHA.

Porsha says HI.
I'M READING ALICE MONROE
RIGHT NOW, SPEAKING OF
BABES.

Maureen says SHE'S A BABE,
TOO.

Porsha says SHORT STORYBOOK.
I JUST WONDERED WHAT THEY
THOUGHT OF HER MOST RECENT
ONE, IF THEY'VE READ --

Maureen says “THE LOVE OF A
GOOD WOMAN” OR --

Porsha says THAT'S THE ONE.

Charmain says THAT'S
A GREAT BOOK.
A GREAT BOOK.
I LOVE THAT BOOK AND THE
REASON I LOVE THAT IN TERMS
OF THE STORY ITSELF WAS
BECAUSE -- FIRST OF ALL, ALL
THE STORIES SEEM TO FLOW FOR
ME ONE INTO THE OTHER.
IT WORKED VERY, VERY WELL.
AND AGAIN THAT GIVES YOU
INSIGHT INTO DIFFERENT PARTS
OF CANADA, DOESN'T IT?
IN TERMS OF --

Jeffrey says YEAH,
IT'S QUITE, IT'S QUITE --

Charmain says SHE
COVERS.

Jeffrey says SHE MOVES
AROUND A LOT IN THIS BOOK
AND IT'S SOMETHING THAT IN
FACT SHE HASN'T DONE AS MUCH
OF PRIOR TO THIS ONE.

Maureen says AND SHE MOVES
AROUND I GUESS AGE-WISE, TOO,
BECAUSE SOME OF THE CHARBS
ARE YOUNGER AND SOME OF THE
CHARACTERS ARE OLDER.
THERE ARE DAUGHTERS,
GRANDMOTHERS, I LIKE THAT.

Jeffrey says AND SHE'S
A BEAUTIFUL WRITER, YOU
KNOW?
THE PROBLEM I HAVE WITH
SHORT FICTION IS THAT I
DON'T REMEMBER STORIES IN
THE WAY I DO NOVELS.

Maureen says RIGHT.

Jeffrey says I CAN
TELL YOU ABOUT THE FEELING I
HAD ABOUT THAT BOOK, AND THE
FACT THAT I ENJOYED READING
IT AND YOU KNOW, HOW MUCH I
GET OUT OF THE PROSTYLE, BUT
I CAN'T -- UNTIL I HOLD IN
MY HAND AND FLIPPED THROUGH
IT AGAIN AND GO “OH, YEAH.”

Maureen says YOU CAN'T
REMEMBER THE EXACT STORY.

Jeffrey says I FIND
THAT WITH SHORT FICTION
QUITE A LOT.

Charmain says I
AGREE.

Jeffrey says IT'S NOT
AN ALICE MONROE THING, BUT I
FIND THAT WITH SHORT FICTION
A LOT.
SO THAT AS GOOD A SHORT
FICTION CREEDER AS SHE IS, I
WISH SHE WOULD WRITE A NOVEL
BECAUSE THEN I'D REALLY
REMEMBER.

Maureen says I FELT, CHARMAIN
THAT SHE COULD HAVE TAKEN
ANYONE OF THOSE SHORT
STORIES AND CREATED A NOVEL
AROUND IT.

Charmain says YEAH.

Maureen says SO ALICE MONROE,
FOR THE LOVE OF A GOOD
WOMAN.
THAT SHOULD BE OUT IN
PAPERBACKS.

Charmain says IT IS.

Maureen says OKAY, I READ IT
A WHILE AGO.
THANK YOU FOR THAT
RECOMMENDATION, PORSHA, I
HOPE YOU LIKE IT.
JEFFERY, LET'S TALK ABOUT
“BAY WOLF.”

Jeffrey says
“BEOWULF.”
THIS IS SO FUNNY -- FIRST OF ALL
THE COVER IS STUNNING.

He shows a book that features a black background cover with a silver shape.

He continues BUT THIS IS ONE OF THOSE
BOOKS THAT I NEVER WOULD
HAVE READ.
I MEAN, REALLY, TRULY, I
WASN'T REALLY ALL THAT
INTERESTED IN READING THIS
ANGLO-SAXON POEM, WHICH I
ASSUMED WOULD BE HARD TO GET
THROUGH, AND DENSE, AND I'D
NEED LOTS OF NOTES, AND SO I
WAS A LITTLE SURPRISED WHEN,
YOU KNOW, HEENEY, WHO IS ONE
OF THE GREAT IRISH POETS OF
THIS CENTURY, AND OF THE
MOMENT AS WELL, WON FOR HIS
TRANSLATION OF THIS.
AND WHEN I APPROACHED IT, I
THOUGHT “OKAY, WELL I'M
READY FOR TOUGH HERE.”
AND YOU KNOW WHAT?
IT'S NOT.

Maureen says IT'S NOT A
TOUGHIE?

Jeffrey says IT'S SO
ACCESSIBLE.
I WAS JUST -- IT READ LIKE A
NOVEL.
IT'S IN A POETIC FORM, BUT
IT READ WITH A, HE'S GIVEN
IT A LANGUAGE THAT REALLY
JUST GRABS YOU UP AND PULLS
YOU RIGHT THROUGH.
AND IT'S A FABULOUS STORY.
I MEAN, IT'S GREAT ADVENTURE
STORY ABOUT A HERO WHO
BATTLES MONSTERS AND THEN,
YOU KNOW, BECOMES A KING,
AND THEN IN HIS OLD AGE HAS
ONE FINAL ENCOUNTER WITH A
DRAGON IN WHICH HE'S KILLED.
I MEAN, AND IT JUST MOVES.
AND YOU KNOW, THE OTHER
THING ABOUT IT, IT'S NOT
THAT LONG.

Maureen says IT'S NOT THAT
LONG.

Jeffrey says YOU KNOW,
LOOKS -- THIS LOOKS LIKE A
BIG BOOK, BUT THE THING
ABOUT IT IS THAT ON ONE SIDE
OF THE BOOK IS THE OLD
ENGLISH, AND ON THE OTHER
SIDE IS HEENEY'S
TRANSLATION.

Maureen says FOR THOSE WHO TO
WANT GIVE IT A GO --

Jeffrey says THAT'S
RIGHT.
SO WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A
POEM THAT'S ABOUT A HUNDRED
PAGES LONG.
WHAT IS MOST EXTRAORDINARY
ABOUT THIS, THOUGH, IS HE'S
GOT A GREAT INTRODUCTION
THAT PLACES THE POEM BOTH IN
THE HISTORY OF WORLD
LITERATURE AND IN ENGLISH
LITERATURE, AND THEN HIS OWN
CONNECTION TO IT.
AS A POET AND AS A LINGUIST,
AND SO YOU REALLY FEEL
SOMETHING VERY PERSONAL IN
THIS BOOK.

Maureen says AND THEY FIGURE
IT WAS WRITTEN WHEN?
WHAT --

Jeffrey says OH, AH...

Maureen says IT'S OLD.

Jeffrey says IT'S OLD.

Maureen says BUT PARDON ME
FOR THIS REALLY -- FOR
SHOWING MY IGNORANCE BUT IS
“BEOWULF” THE AUTHOR OR THE
TITLE --

Jeffrey says NO THAT'S
THE POEM.
WE DON'T KNOW WHO THE AUTHOR
IS.
THE AUTHOR DOESN'T EXIST.
YOU KNOW, I CAN'T REMEMBER
WHAT THE DATE OF “BEOWULF.”
IS.

Maureen says 1300 --

Jeffrey browses through the pages and says I THINK
IT'S EVEN EARLIER THAN THAT.

Maureen says MAYBE EVEN
1100s.

Jeffrey says 920.

Maureen says BEFORE CHAUSSER,
ANYWAY.

Jeffrey says NO, NO,
WELL BEFORE 110 A.D.

Maureen says I LOVE THE
COVER.

Jeffrey says VERY
ACCESSIBLE BOOK.
WHAT IS INTERESTING ABOUT
“BEOWULF” IS WHERE THE STORY
HAS GONE.
AND IN FACT I WOULD NEVER
HAVE READ THIS BOOK
OTHERWISE, OTHER THAN
“BEOWULF” BUT I READ A BOOK
BIKE MICHAEL CRICHTON CALLED
“THE 13th WARRIOR.”

Maureen says THEY MADE A
MOVIE OUT OF THAT.

Jeffrey says THAT'S
RIGHT, A BAD MOVIE WITH
ANTONIO BANDERAS AND IT'S
BASED ON -- ORIGINALLY CAME
OUT AS A BOOK CALLED “EATERS
OF THE DEAD” WHEN IT WAS
FIRST PUBLISHED.
AND THIS IS THE “BEOWULF.”
STORY.
AND YOU KNOW, IT'S REALLY
VERY GOOD FOR THIS KIND OF
BOOK.
IT'S ABOUT AN ARAB TRAVELLER
WHO GOES WITH A GROUP OF
NORSEMEN TO FIGHT A BATTLE.
AND EVEN THOUGH IT'S NOT A
MONSTER LIKE “BEOWULF” THERE
IS A MONSTER INVOLVED.
ALTHOUGH IT'S NOT QUITE THE
MONSTER THAT --

Maureen says IT'S A MICHAEL
CRICHTON MONSTER.

Jeffrey says IT'S A
MICHAEL CRICHTON MONSTER.

Charmain says NOT A
DINOSAUR.

Charmain laughs.

Jeffrey says NO, IT'S
NEANDERTHALS.
NORSE VERSUS NEANDERTHALS.

Maureen says SO TRANSLATION
BY SEAMUS HEENE ANDMD
MICHAEL CRICHTON, THE 13th
WARRIOR.
LET'S GO TO ROBERT IN
TORONTO.
HI ROBERT.

Robert says YES, HOW ARE YOU?

Maureen says GOOD, THANKS.

Robert says I CAN RECALL
BEING IN UNIVERSITY, HAVING
TO DO PAPERS AND WANDERING
THROUGH THE STACKS OF
ROBARTS, THEN I REMEMBER
WANDERING OFF, “GEE, I
WONDER WHAT'S OVER THERE.”
Robert laughs and continues AND CRAMMING FOR MY ESSAY,
OR WHATEVER.
BUT I DO HAVE A COUPLE OF
BOOKS TO REFER TO YOU.
THERE'S ONE CALLED “WORLD OF
VILLAGES” BY BRIAN SCHWARTZ.
THIS BOOK WAS WRITTEN IN THE
EARLY '80s AND HE WAS A
LAWYER WHO HAD JUST
GRADUATED FROM LAW SCHOOL,
SOMEWHERE IN THE STATES.
AND HE SPENT SIX YEARS
TRAVELLING THROUGH AFRICA,
ASIA, HE WAS ONE OF THE
FIRST PEOPLE TO ENTER TIBET,
AND GO THROUGH CHINA.
AS A MATTER OF FACT ONE OF
THE INTERESTING STORIES
ABOUT HIM WAS WHEN HE
ENTERED CHINA, HE WENT
IMMEDIATELY FROM -- HE
PURCHASED A VISA IN HONG
KONG IN A BACK STREET ALLEY
IN A STORE.
HE GOT INTO CHINA, I GUESS
PEKING, AND THEN HE WENT
RIGHT TO A BUS TERMINAL AND
WENT TO SOME SMALL TOWN OR
SMALL CITY IN CHINA AND WHEN
HE GOT OFF THE BUS, THESE
PEOPLE HAD NEVER SEEN A
WESTERNER BEFORE IN THEIR
LIVES AND THEY WERE ALL
CONGREGATING AROUND HIM AND
FOLLOWING HIM THROUGH THE
TOWN.
AND HE FINALLY ACTUALLY HAD
TO PERSUADE SOMEBODY TO GIVE
HIM LODGING.
THEY DIDN'T KNOW HOW TO DEAL
WITH HIM, YOU KNOW, AT ALL.
BUT IT WAS A FASCINATING
BOOK.
AND IT -- I MEAN, I COULDN'T
AUTO PUTS IT DOWN.
I MEAN, THAT'S HOW GOOD IT
WAS.
TRAVEL LITERATURE, I FIND
SOME OF IT IS REALLY
ENGAGING, YOU KNOW,
ESPECIALLY IF IT'S AN
INDIVIDUAL DOING THAT KIND
OF A TRIP.
BUT THE OTHER BOOK I READ
WAS CALLED “LONGEST WALK.”
AND THIS WAS ABOUT AN
INDIVIDUAL WHO WALKED FROM
TIERRA DEL -- RIGHT AT THE
TIP OF SOUTH AMERICA.

Maureen says TIERRA DEL
FUEGO?

Jeffrey says YES.

Robert continues UP THROUGH ALASKA
AND I WAS READING THE BOOK
ONE NIGHT AND IT WAS AT 2:00
IN THE MORNING AND HE
MENTIONED MEETING A
MISSIONARY IN BOLIVIA AND I
KNEW THIS MISSIONARY'S
BROTHER AND HAD MET HER A
YEAR BEFORE.
IT WAS REALLY SORT OF DEJA
VU.

Maureen says THESE ARE TRUE
STORY, OBVIOUSLY WRITTEN --
THE AUTHOR IS THE PERSON WHO
WHO DOES THE TRAVELING AND
THEY'RE WRITTEN FIRST
PERSON.

Robert says YEAH, THEY'RE
FASCINATING BOOKS, REALLY
ARE.

Maureen says I KEEP THINKING
OF THE MOUNT EVEREST
BOOKS -- THERE'S BEEN QUITE
A SUCCESS OF THESE BOOKS.
EVERYONE KEEPS TELLING ME
“INTO THIN AIR” IS A GREAT
READ.
YOU GOT TO READ THAT.

Jeffrey says THERE'S A
NEW ONE, I WISH I COULD
REMEMBER THE NAME OF IT IT'S
A CANADIAN BOOK JUST COME
OUT FROM, I THINK IT'S
HARPER COLLINS THAT'S ABOUT
EVEREST.

Maureen says YEAH?

Jeffrey says AND I
MEAN, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE ARE
FASCINATED BY TRAVELLING.
AND YOU KNOW, OFTEN IF
YOU'VE BEEN TO PLACE IT'S
LOVELY TO READ SOMEONE
ELSE'S BOOK ABOUT THAT
PLACE.
YOU KNOW?
OR A PLACE THAT YOU, YOU
KNOW YOU'RE NEVER GOING TO
GET TO YOURSELF.
I MEAN --

Maureen says RIGHT.

Jeffrey says YOU KNOW,
I THINK OF BOOKS LIKE SOME
OF THAT, THAT WONDERFUL
BRUCE CHAPWIN BOOK “THE SONG
LINES” WHICH IS ABOUT GOING
THROUGH AUSTRALIA.
AND I MEAN, I'D LOVE TO GO
TO AUSTRALIA AT SOME POINT
BUT WHO KNOWS.

Maureen says WE LIVE
VICARIOUSLY.

Jeffrey says THAT'S
RIGHT.

Maureen says THANK YOU VERY
MUCH, ROBERT FOR THOSE
RECOMMENDATIONS.
JOHN IS IN ESSEX.
HELLO, JOHN.

John says HELLO.

Maureen says HI.
WHAT ARE YOU READING.

John says “WE FLEW BY
MOONLIGHT.”

Maureen says BY...?

John says RALPH CAMPBELL.
AND RALPH CAMPBELL WAS AN
ONTARIO BOY THAT GREW UP ON
A FARM NORTH OF BELLEVILLE,
JOINED THE AIR FORCE IN '42,
AND BECAME A SPECIAL
OPERATIONS PILOT.
AND IT -- THIS BOOK WRITES
ABOUT HIS EXPERIENCES IN THE
SECOND WORLD WAR.

Maureen says OH.

John says UNBELIEVABLELY
INTERESTING BOOK, FULL OF
HUMOUR, IT'S ONLY 143 PAGES,
PAPER BACK.
IT'S JUST AN EXCELLENT BOOK.
I THINK, PERSONALLY, THAT
EVERY STUDENT IN ONTARIO
SCHOOLS SHOULD READ THAT TO
UNDERSTAND WHAT THOSE PEOPLE
DID FOR US.
JUST A WONDERFUL BOOK.
NOW RALPH CAMPBELL, HE WAS A
PROFESSOR OF ECONOMICS AFTER
THE WAR IN, AT GUELPH AND
THAT'S WHERE I MET AND KNEW
HIM FOR A YEAR, BUT THEN HE
BECAME PRESIDENT OF THE
UNIVERSITY OF MANITOBA.
AND THEN HAS DONE WORK FOR
VARIOUS FOREIGN GOVERNMENTS
AT DIFFERENT TIMES, AND OF
COURSE HE'S RETIRED NOW.
JUST A WONDERFUL BOOK.
NOW, DO YOU HAVE A QUESTION?

Maureen says OKAY.
OH, DO WE HAVE A QUESTION?

John says YES.

Maureen says UH, NO.
WHY?

Maureen laughs.

John says OH.
WELL, IF THERE'S ANYTHING
ELSE YOU WANT ME TO --

Maureen says OH, YEAH, I WANT
YOU TO TELL US THE NAME OF
THE BOOK AGAIN.
WE FLEW BY MIDNIGHT.

John says MOONLIGHT.

Maureen says OKAY.
GREAT TITLE.
WHEN WAS THE BOOK PUBLISHED?

John says IN 1995, AND BY A
SMALL PUBLICATION COMPANY IN
ORILLIA, ONTARIO.
CARRY HILL PUBLICATIONS.
AND IN ORILLIA.

Maureen says OKAY, GREAT,
THANK YOU.

John says JUST A WONDERFUL
BOOK.
I THINK EVERYBODY SHOULD
READ IT IF I WAS THE MINUTES
OF EDUCATION, I WOULD MAKE
EVERYBODY, MAKE IT MANDATORY
FOR SCHOOLS.

Maureen says I'M GLAD YOU
BROUGHT UP WAR LITERATURE
THOUGH.
I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S A
FAVOURITE OF EITHER OF YOU
BUT JEFFERY I WAS TELLING
YOU I FINALLY GOT AROUND TO
READING PAT BARKERS
“REGENERATION TRILOGY.”
THESE BOOKS ARE A FEW YEARS
OLD, AREN'T THEY?

Jeffrey says YES, THEY
ARE.

Maureen says SHE WON THE
BOOKER FOR THE THIRD ONE IN
'92 OR '93 OR SOMETHING.
THIS IS WORLD WAR I.
FICTION, HOWEVER, BASED ON
SOME REAL CHARACTERS.
ZIG FREED SAS SOON, WHO WAS
A POET IN BRITAIN AT THE
TIME AND FOUGHT IN THE WAR.

Jeffrey says WILFRID
OWEN.

Maureen says YEAH, ANOTHER
POET, AND RIVERS, DOCTOR RIVERS
WHO WAS THEIR PSYCHIATRIST.
GREAT BOOKS.
NOW -- SCRRN.

Jeffrey says SEBASTIEN
FOLKS, “BIRD SONG” IS
ANOTHER FABULOUS ONE.

Maureen says WHY DID PAT
BARKER WIN THE BOOKER FOR
THE THIRD IN THE SERIES AND
NOT THE FIRST --

Charmain says THAT'S
STRANGE.

Maureen says YEAH, IT'S A
LITTLE STRANGE.

Jeffrey says WHO KNOWS
HOW LIT RAIFRARY PRIZES
REALLY WORK.
WHY DID IAN McEWEN WIN FOR
“AMSTERDAM” AS OPPOSED TO
“ENDURING LOVE.”
OR MATT COHEN FOR “ELIZABETH
AND AFTER” WHEN HIS LAST
BOOK, THE ONE BEFORE, “LAST
SEEN” WAS ONE OF THE BOOKS
THAT I DON'T THINK I'LL EVER
FORGET EVER.
I MEAN, ABOUT A MAN DEALING
WITH HIS BROTHER'S DEATH
FROM CANCER.
AND IT'S AN UNBELIEVABLY
MOVING BOOK.
SO LITERARY PRIZES ARE ODD
THINGS.

Maureen says BUT YOU SHOULD
READ THIS ONE FROM THE FIRST
BOOK THROUGH TO THE THIRD.

Jeffrey says OH, YES,
YOU REALLY SHOULD.
IT'S A BOOK THAT YOU NEED TO
FOLLOW CHRONOLOGICALLY.

Maureen says YEAH.
RIGHT, OKAY.
THAT'S -- THANK YOU VERY
MUCH, JOHN, FOR YOUR
RECOMMENDATION.
BARB IS IN PENETANG.
HELLO, BARB.

Barb says HI THERE.

Maureen says HI.

Barb says I JUST WANTED TO
MAKE A COMMENT THAT OUR BOOK
CLUB HERE IN PENETANG, KNOWN
AS “THE NORTH SIMCOE
LITERARY GUILD” IS MEETING
IN OUR 25th YEAR.

Maureen says WOW, TWENTY FIVE
YEARS!

Barb says WE STARTED OUT AS
YOUNG MOTHERS AND WE'VE BEEN
MEETING EVERY MONTH FOR
ALMOST 25 YEARS.

Jeffrey says WOW!

Charmain says THAT'S
GREAT!

Barb says BUT THE ONE BOOK
THAT THIS YEAR THAT WE'VE
READ AND REALLY ENJOYEDDED
WAS CAPTAIN CORELLI'S
“MANDOLIN.”

Maureen says OH, GOOD, ONE OF
MY FAVOURITES.

Barb says AND WE WERE JUST
WONDER PHYSICAL THERE WAS
ANOTHER BOOK SIMILAR TO
THAT.

Maureen says I WOULDN'T LOOK
TO LOUIS DEBERNEIER FOR A
SIMILAR BOOK.
I'VE TALKED ON THE SHOW HOW
MUCH I LOVED IT, SO I PICKED
UP “THE TROUBLESOME OFF
SPRING OF CARDINAL GUZMAN.”
WHICH IS ANOTHER OF
DEBERNEIE'S BOOKS AND
ALTHOUGH IT REMINDED ME MORE
OF GARCIA DEMARQUEZ WITH
THAT SORT OF MAGIC REALISM,
THAT SORT OF IMAGERY IN THE
BOOK, THERE WAS SO MANY
CHARACTERS I HAD TO KEEP --
COULDN'T DO THIS ON THE
INTERNET.
I HAD TO KEEP GOING BACK TO
GET THEM STRAIGHT.
I'M NOT SAYING IT WASN'T A
GOOD STORY AND THAT IT
WASN'T WELL-WRITTEN, BUT IT
WAS NO “CAPTAIN CORELLI'S
MANDOLIN.”
WHAT DO YOU THINK, CHARMAIN?
IT'S A WONDERFUL ROMANCE.
IT TAKES YOU INTO FOREIGN
COUNTRIES LIKE GREECE AND
ITALY.
AND JUST POETCALLY WRITTEN.

Charmain says WELL
THE OBVIOUSLY ONE IS “THE
ENGLISH PATIENT.”
I MEAN, IF YOU HAVEN'T READ
“THE ENGLISH PATIENT” IT
TAKES YOU TO FOREIGN
TERRITORY AS WELL AND IT'S A
WONDERFUL LOVE STORY.

Maureen says THAT'S TRUE.
AND “NEIL'S GHOST” I HAVEN'T
GOT YET.

Charmain says NO, I
HAVEN'T TOUCHED THAT YET.

Jeffrey says IT'S ON
MY LIST.

Maureen says WE'RE WAITING
FOR SOME PUBLISHER TO SEND
IT TO US, I GUESS.
(laughing)
WE'RE TO CHEAP.
ANYTHING ELSE THAT COMES TO
MIND?

Jeffrey says SEE, I
DON'T KNOW CAPTAIN CORELLI.

Maureen says I'M TRYING TO
GET YOU TO READ IT.

Jeffrey says I KNOW
YOU ARE.
AND I WILL.
HOW ABOUT THAT WILL BE MY
SUMMER READING PROJECT.

Maureen says OKAY.
WELL THE OLD CLASSICS THOUGH,
I MEAN, “EMMA” BY JANE
AUSTEN IS A GREAT READ.
THOSE ARE THE THINGS -- I'VE
PICKED UP “TO KILL A
MOCKINGBIRD” BECAUSE YOU
ALWAYS TALK ABOUT THAT, AND
I NEVER DID READ IT IN
SCHOOL.
SO --

Charmain says REALLY?
IT'S A TERRIFIC BOOK.
THAT'S, THAT'S A CLASSIC.

Jeffrey says YEAH.

Maureen says IT'S ONE YOU CAN
JUST GET OUT OF THE LIBRARY.

Charmain says YEAH,
YEAH.

Maureen says I HOPE YOUR BOOK
CLUB FINDS SOMETHING, AND
BOOK CLUBS ARE GATE AT
PICKING WORKS TO PASS ON, SO
NEXT TIME WE DO THIS, BARB,
I HOPE YOU'LL CALL AND TELL
US WHAT YOU DID SELECT SO
THAT WE CAN TAKE ADVANTAGE
OF IT.
THANK YOU.
PAT IS NEXT.
HI PAT.

Pat says HI MAUREEN.
ANOTHER GOOD SUMMER READ
WOULD BE DAVID McFARLANE'S
“SUMMER GONE.”

Maureen says HEARD GOOD
THINGS ABOUT THIS.

Pat says I READ IT IN THE
WINTER BUT IT FELT LIKE
SUMMER.
AND ANOTHER BOOK FOR THE
SUMMER, LIGHT AND FUN WHEN
YOU'RE SPEAKING ABOUT FEMALE
AUDIENCES IS “THE DIVINE
SECRETS OF THE YAYA
SISTERHOOD.”

Charmain says YES.

Pat says A FUN SUMMER
BOOK.

Maureen says HAVE YOU READ
“LITTLE ALTARS EVERYWHERE.”
TOO?

Pat says NO I HAVEN'T READ
THAT ONE.

Maureen says I HAVEN'T
EITHER.
BUT THAT'S SORT OF THE
PREQUEL.

Charmain says YOU
DON'T HAVE TO READ IT THAT
WAY.
I JUST STARTED WITH “THE
DIVINE SISTERS” AND I
THOUGHT IT WAS A GOOD READ.
I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU FEEL
ABOUT THIS JEFFERY BUT IT
SEEMS TO BE FAIRLY FEMALE
FOCUSED.

Jeffrey says YEAH, IT
WASN'T ONE OF THOSE BOOKS
THAT I READ.

Jeffrey chuckles.

Maureen says NOW I CAN
RECOMMEND SOMETHING SIMILAR
TO THAT STORY THOUGH.
ANYTHING ABOUT KATE
ATKINSON.
I TALK ABOUT HER EVERY TIME
WE DO THE SHOW.

Jeffrey says OH, YEAH.
SHE HAS A NEW BOOK.

Maureen says NO!

Jeffrey says COMING
OUT YEAH, IN MAY I THINK.

Maureen says SO THE OTHER TWO
ARE “BEHIND THE SCENES AT
THE MUSEUM” AND “HUMAN
CROQUET” BRITISH AUTHOR.

Jeffrey says WHACKY.

Maureen says TOTALLY WHACKY,
WHICH “THE DIVINE SISTERS.”
IS, TOO.
THE AMERICAN VERSION.
ALL RIGHT, JEFFERY.

Jeffrey says WELL, YOU
KNOW, WE WERE ORIGINALLY
SUPPOSED TO TAPE IN APRIL SO
IT WAS NATIONAL POETRY MONTH,
SO I THOUGHT I'D BRING ONE
SMALL VOLUME OF CANADIAN
POETRY, JUST BECAUSE IT'S
GOT SUCH A NICE COVER.
IT'S A GOOD -- BUT IT'S A
VERY ATTRACTIVE-LOOKING
BOOK.
IT'S BY A TORONTO WRITER,
IT'S CALLED “LAKE WHERE NO
ONE SWIMS” BY CHRIS
CHAMBERS.
AND IT'S VERY BEAUTIFUL
POEMS THAT LOOK BACK AT
CANADA FROM A VARIETY OF
PERSPECTIVES.
PLAY WITH THE NOTION OF
WHERE WATER AND THE
WILDERNESS FALL INTO OUR
PATHS.
TALK ABOUT CITY SCAPES,
TORONTO, AND REALLY DOES IT
IN A REALLY VERY BEAUTIFUL
AND INVENTIVE WAY, AND IT'S
ALSO -- THE OTHER THING I
LIKE ABOUT IT, IT'S BY A NEW
SMALL PRESS IN TORONTO
CALLED PEDDLER PRESS.
THEY'VE DONE SOME REALLY
QUITE REMARKABLE BOOK.
AND THEY DID A WONDERFUL ONE
ABOUT CARNIVALS AND FAIRS
CALLED “WILD MOUSE.”
THAT WAS FULL OF VINTAGE
PHOTOGRAPHS FROM THE CNA,
AND BY CHRIS CHAMBERS AND
ANOTHER TORONTO POET, DEREK
McCORMACK.
AND SO IT'S A REALLY
BEAUTIFUL BOOK.
AND IT'S JUST -- I MEAN,
IT'S NICE TO READ POETRY.

Maureen says DO YOU READ A
LOT OF POETRY?

Jeffrey says NO, YOU
KNOW WHAT?
I DON'T READ A LOT OF POETRY
AND SO THAT'S WHAT I FOUND
SO NICE ABOUT THIS.
THESE ARE VERY ACCESSIBLE,
YOU CAN GET RIGHT INTO THEM
BUT THEY ALSO TELL YOU A
LITTLE BIT ABOUT YOURSELF AS
YOU'RE READING.

Maureen says WELL THAT'S I
DIDN'T LIKE TO READ ANDACCI,
BECAUSE HE FORCES ME TO READ
POETRY.
WHAT BUT?
WOULD YOU EVER BIG UP A BOOK
OF POEMS, CHARMAIN?

Charmain says WELL
ACTUALLY MY HUSBAND DOES.
AND HE'S A ROMANTIC, I WOULD
SAY, AND I CAN REMEMBER
TIMES, BEFORE WE HAD
CHILDREN, WHEN HE WOULD PICK
UP A LOT OF BOOKS OF POETRY,
MANY BOOKS OF POETRY AND
WE'D READ TOGETHER, AND YOU
KNOW, IN INTIMATE MOMENTS,
AND IT WAS WONDERFUL.

Maureen says THAT'S SWEET.
THAT'S NICE.
BY THE WAY, SPEAKING OF
KIDS' BOOK, YOU'VE BROUGHT
ONE ALONG.

Charmain says YEAH, I
BROUGHT ONE ALONG BY JUST
WANT TO MAKE A REALLY QUICK
ASIDE AND STILL ON THE TOPIC
OF CHILDREN.
FIRST OF ALL THIS BOOK'S
CALLED “YUCK.
A LOVE STORY.”
AND IT'S BY DON GILMOUR, AND
IT SHOULD BE READ “YUCHCHCH!
A LOVE STORY.”

Maureen says OKAY.

Holding the book, Charmain says AND
IT'S A WONDERFUL STORY, IT'S
ABOUT THIS LITTLE CHARACTER,
A LITTLE BOY HERE, THE GIRL
NEXT DOOR.
SOMEONE NEW MOVES IN AND THE
GIRL NEXT DOOR IS A GIRL!
FOR GOSH SAKES!
AND SHE'S NOT A BOY!
YUCK!
AND BASICALLY THE TWO OF
THEM -- YOU KNOW, SHE'S VERY
FRIENDLY, AND SHE'S TRYING
TO GET TO KNOW HIM, AND HE'S
VERY HESITANT, BECAUSE HE'S
GOT HIS BEST FRIEND WHO'S A
GUY, AND HE DOESN'T TO WANT
BE SEEN TO LIKE THIS GIRL
TOO MUCH.
BUT OBVIOUSLY IN THE END
THEY DO BECOME FRIENDS, AND
WHAT HE DOES, VERY
ROMANTICALLY, IS HE DECIDES
HE'S INVITED TO HER BIRTHDAY
PARTY.
HE CATCHES THE MOON FOR HER.
AND IT'S WONDERFUL.

Jeffrey says AND IT'S
AWFUL -- THEY TASTE IT AND
IT'S AWFUL.

Charmain says AND THEY
BOTH TRY IT AND DOES IT
TASTE LIKE CHEESE?
NO, IT'S AWFUL TASTING.
BUT A WONDERFUL WONDERFUL
CHILDREN'S BOOK.
THE ILLUSTRATOR MADDY LOUISE
GAY, A VERY FAMOUS CANADIAN
CHILDREN'S ILLUSTRATOR, SHE
WRITES BOOKS OF HER OWN AND
ILLUSTRATES A NUMBER OF
BOOKS AND THE PICTURES ARE
GREAT.

Maureen says WHAT AGE GROUP
WOULD YOU SAY?

Charmain says I WOULD
SAY -- WELL, MY
FOUR-YEAR-OLD.

Jeffrey says YEAH, I
WOULD SAY THREE TO SEVEN.
SEVEN OR EIGHT.

Charmain says YEAH,
FOR SURE.

Maureen says BEFORE THEY
START TO LIKE GIRLS.

Charmain says MUCH
BEFORE.

Maureen says WE'RE AT THAT
STAGE.
MAUREEN IS ON THE LINE FROM
MISSISSAUGA.
HI MAUREEN?

A female caller says HELLO.

Maureen says HI.
WHAT ARE YOU READING?

The female caller says HI.
I HEARD YOU TALKING ABOUT
“CAPTAIN CORELLI'S MANDOLIN.”
WHICH I ENJOYED.
ANOTHER BOOK I READ ABOUT
THE SECOND WORLD WAR THAT
TAKES PLACE IN HAWAII I
THINK IS CALLED “THE MEMORY
OF WATER” BY KIANNA
DAVENPORT.

Maureen says OH, YEAH, YEAH,
I HAVEN'T READ IT BUT I'VE
HEARD ABOUT IT.
“THE MEMORY OF WATER.”

The female caller says RIGHT, AND IT'S
ABOUT A COUPLE AND THEIR
RELATIONSHIP THAT GOES ON IN
THE '30s AND ON THROUGH THE
SECOND WORLD WAR, THE WOMAN
BECOMES A COMFORT WOMAN.
SHE'S CAPTURED BY THE
JAPANESE BECAUSE SHE GOES
BACK TO CHINA, LOOKING FOR
HER LOST SISTER, AND... IT'S
JUST VERY EVOCATIVE.
I DIDN'T KNOW VERY MUCH
ABOUT HAWAII, SO IT'S VERY
INTERESTING.

Maureen says I LOVE THAT!
WHEN YOU CAN LEARN ABOUT A
PLACE, YOU KNOW, THROUGH THE
NOVEL THAT YOU'RE READING
ABOUT.
AND WHAT'S THE AUTHOR'S
NAME?

The female caller says HER NAME IS
KIANNA DAVENPORT.

Maureen says DAVENPORT, OKAY,
SPELLED LIKE IT SOUNDS.
GREAT.
“THE MEMORY OF WATER.”
THERE'S A LOT OF THE TITLES
LATELY WITH WATER IN THEM
WHICH GETS ME CONFUSED.
BECAUSE ANITA SHREV, IS IT?
IS THAT HOW YOU?

Jeffrey says YEAH,
YEAH.

Charmain says YES.

Maureen says SHE'S WRITTEN
“THE WEIGHT OF WATER” AND
SHE'S GOT ANOTHER NEW BOOK
OUT, TOO.
“THE PILOT'S WIFE.”
WAS THE BOOK ONE, BUT SHE'S
GOT A NEW ONE SINCE THEN.
SHREVE?
IS THAT HOW YOU PRONOUNCE
THAT?
THE WEIGHT OF WATER, THERE
WAS SOMETHING ELSE ABOUT
WATER.

Charmain says “THE
DROWNING PEOPLE.”

Maureen says “THE DROWNING
PEOPLE” WHICH WE'RE READING
THIS TIME.

Jeffrey laughs.

Jeffrey says WATER
WATER EVERYWHERE.

Maureen says WATER WATER
EVERYWHERE.
WHAT ABOUT-GHARB ARE YOU
RECOMMENDING TO YOUR
GIRLFRIENDS RIGHT NOW?

Charmain says WELL
ACTUALLY “PAULA.”

Maureen says “PAULA” IS
GOOD --

Charmain says YEAH,
IT'S A REALLY GOOD BOOK.

Maureen says DO YOU THINK
IT'S FOR MEN, TOO?

Charmain says YEAH,
THE REASON IT'S FOR MEN IS
BECAUSE IT'S A HISTORICAL
ACCOUNT, YOU KNOW?
IT'S ABOUT THE LIFE, THE
LIFE OF A FAMILY AND WHAT
THE FAMILY GOES THROUGH SO
IT'S VERY, VERY ACCESSIBLE
TO MEN AS WELL.
ABSOLUTELY.

Maureen says I WAS THINKING
OF YOU GUYS THE OTHER DAY
BECAUSE WE DID J.K.RAWLINGS
SO MUCH ON A PREVIOUS SHOW
AND HARRY POTTER.
DID YOU SEE WHAT HER AGENT
IS DEMANDING WHEN SHE COMES
TO A CANADA FOR AN
INTERVIEW?
JEFFERY DO YOU WANT TO TELL
PEOPLE HOW THAT GOES?

Jeffrey says THEY'RE
HAVING A LOTTERY.
SO WHAT IS IT?
THERE'S GOING TO BE ONE
PRINT AND ONE TV AND ONE --
ONE RADIO AND IT'S HIGHEST
BIDDER.
AND YOU HAVE TO MEET CERTAIN
CRITERIA, LIKE PLACEMENT HAS
TO BE WHERE THEY WANT IT.

Maureen says FRONT PAGE.
YOU HAVE TO GUARANTEE FRONT
PAGE.

Jeffrey says WRITE,
I -- RIGHT, AND I GUESS IT
HAS TO BE THE LEAD STORY.
I THINK THAT'S TOTALLY OUT
OF CONTROL.

Charmain says
ABSOLUTELY.

Maureen says I REALLY -- “THE
GLOBE AND MAIL” SAID IN AN
ARTICLE, THEY HAD IT IN THE
PAPER ON SATURDAY THAT THEY
DON'T GUARANTEE ANYTHING.
AND YOU KNOW, I HAVE TO SAY
THAT I THINK IT'S, I THINK
IT'S A LITTLE OVER THE TOP
TO ASK THAT.
WHEN YOU THINK OF SOME OF
THE GREAT WRITERS IN THIS
WORLD, AND I MEAN, I'VE
TALKED TO AS A JOURNALIST,
I'VE TALKED TO SOME OF THE
BEST WRITERS.
I'VE TALKED TO TONY MORRISON
AND TO A.S. BYATT, I'VE
TALKED TO, YOU KNOW, LOTS OF
PEOPLE.
THEY ALL MAKE THEMSELVES
ACCESSIBLE.
AND I HAVE TO SAY THAT I
FIND, I FIND THAT REALLY
PROBLEMATIC.
I MEAN, HEAVENS!
YOU KNOW, I MET LAWRENCE
BACALL, YOU KNOW, WHEN SHE
WAS ON TOUR.
YOU KNOW, I MEAN, LIKE THERE
ARE PEOPLE WHO HAVE HUGE
REPUTATIONS!
AND STILL MAKE TIME FOR
JOURNALISTS, YOU KNOW --.

Maureen says THE HOME PEOPLE.

Jeffrey says
JOURNALISTS NO MATTER WHERE
THEY'RE FROM.

Charmain says BUT
THEY'RE RUNNING WITH THE
WHOLE CRAZE AROUND THE HARRY
POTTER BOOK.

Jeffrey says BUT I
THINK IT'S GOING TO BE VERY
INTERESTING BECAUSE I THINK
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT
PEOPLE NEED TO KNOW ABOUT
THIS NEW BOOK IS TWO THINGS,
IT'S 624 PAGES.

Maureen says LARGE.
LONGER.

Jeffrey says SO IT'S
MUCH LONGER THAN ANY THE
PREVIOUS BOOKS.
IT'S ALSO 35 DOLLARS.

Maureen says OOH!

Jeffrey says NOW THE
PREVIOUS BOOKS HAVE ALL BEEN
19.99.

Charmain says YEAH,
THEY'RE GETTING OUT OF
CONTROL.

Jeffrey says WE'RE
GOING UP 15 BUCKS.
AND WHAT IS IT, A BOOK
THAT'S SUPPOSED TO BE FOR
CHILDREN -- YOU KNOW I DO
HAVE TO SAY THERE IS NO
OTHER CHILDREN'S BOOK THAT I
CAN THINK OF THAT HAS COST
THAT KIND OF MONEY.
UNLESS YOU'RE BUYING, YOU
KNOW, ONE OF THOSE SPECIAL
GIFT EDITIONS, YOU KNOW, YOU
KNOW, I MEAN --

Maureen says THE WHOLE “LORD
OF THE RINGS SERIES” MIGHT
RUN THAT YOU IN PAPER BACK
BUT THAT'S A LITTLE
DIFFERENT.

Jeffrey says WELL
THAT'S IT.

Maureen says I GUESS WE'RE
OUT OF TIME.
SO YOU'RE COMING BACK IN
JUST ONE MONTH.
WE HAVE TO HAVE THIS BOOK
READY?

Charmain says
ABSOLUTELY.

Maureen says OKAY, IN ONE
MONTH.
WE'LL SEE YOU THEN FOR OUR
LAST KICK QUESTION CAN.
OUR BOOK CLUB MEETING IS ON
FRIDAY, JANUARY 12th, AND
WE'LL ALL BE READING “THE
DROWNING PEOPLE.”

Charmain says
JANUARY?

Maureen says SORRY, DID I SAY
JANUARY?
JUNE 2nd, “THE DROWNING
PEOPLE” BY RICHARD MAASON.
IT'S PUBLISHED BY DOUBLEDAY
CANADA AND IT'S ONLY 9.99
IN PAPERBACK AND THE TWO
LUCKY WINNERS OF THAT BOOK
ARE BARB IN PENETANG AND
SUSAN IN ORTON.
SO CONGRATULATIONS.
YOU CAN LOOK UP THE
RECOMMENDATIONS CHARMAIN AND
JEFFERY MADE TODAY ON OUR
“MORE TO LIFE” WEBSITE.

A slate pops up that reads “Reading List. www.tvo.org/moretolife.”

Maureen concludes GLAD YOU CAN JOIN US
TODAY ON MORE TO LIFE,
I’M MAUREEN TAYLOR
TUNE IN AGAIN MONDAY
THROUGH FRIDAY ON TVO
AT ONE O’CLOCK.

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