Transcript: Birds | Apr 12, 2000

(music plays)

The opening sequence shows different sets of hands performing activities on a wooden table such as pulling petals from a daisy, drawing a big red heart, tuning a violin, flipping through the pages of a book, cooking, and pouring a glass of red wine.
In animation, the title appears inside the shape of a house: “More to life.”

Kevin Brosch sits in a studio with yellow walls and a small TV set in the background, which reads “More to life.”

Kevin is in his mid-thirties, clean-shaven and with very short wavy light brown hair. He wears a beige shirt, black vest and patterned tie.

He says HI THERE.
WELCOME TO “MORE TO LIFE.”
MY NAME IS KEVIN BROSCH,
SITTING IN FOR MAUREEN
TAYLOR.
AND BELIEVE IT OR NOT THE
WORLD'S FASTEST FLYING BIRD
IS THE PEREGRINE FALCON.
WHEN IN A DIVE IT CAN REACH
SPEEDS UP TO 190 KILOMETRES
AN HOUR.
THIS ENDANGERED SPECIES IS
NOW ALSO MAKING A VERY
STRONG COMEBACK IN THE
PROVINCE OF ONTARIO THANKS
TO SOME VERY DEVOTED BIRDERS
AND WHEN “MORE TO LIFE.”
WANTS TO TALK TO BIRDS WE
NATURALLY TURN TO NATURALIST
DAN STUCKEY.
HE'S WITH US FROM THE
KORTRIGHT CENTRE FOR
CONSERVATION IN KLEINBURG.
SO IF YOU'VE GOT A QUESTION
OR A BURDEN SIGHTING YOU'D
LIKE TO SHARE WITH US,
PLEASE GIVE US A CALL.
IN TORONTO, OUR NUMBER
IS 416 484-2727. CALL US TOLL
FREE IF IT’S LONG DISTANCE.
1-888-411-1234 AND YOU CAN E-MAIL
YOUR QUESTION TO MORETOLIFE@TVO.ORG
HELLO, DAN.

Dan is in his early forties, clean-shaven and with shoulder length wavy blond hair. He wears a gray sweater.

Dan says HELLO,
KEVIN.

Kevin says HOW ARE YOU?

Dan says VERY WELL,
THANK YOU.

Kevin says SO THIS IS, IS IT
ORNITHOLOGY?

Dan says YES.

Kevin says AND WHEN WE'RE
TALKING ABOUT BIRDS IT'S NOT
JUST THE BASEBALL'S BLUE
JAYS, IS IT?

Dan says NO, WE'RE
TALKING OF HUNDREDS OF OTHER
ONES.

Kevin says AND LET'S JUST
START WITH THE PEREGRINE.
THE EFFORTS TO REINTRODUCE
IT TO THE PROVINCE ARE GOING
WELL.

A caption reads “Dan Stuckey. Naturalist.”

Dan says AMAZINGLY
WELL.
20 YEARS AGO WHEN THEY WERE
TALKING ABOUT RAISING BABY
BIRDS ON CITY SKY SCRAPERS
IN PLACES LIKE TORONTO AND
OTTAWA, I SAID IT'LL NEVER
WORK BUT IT HAS.
THEY'VE BEEN HACKING BABY
BIRD OFF OF THESE LOCATIONS
FOR WELL OVER 20 YEARS, I
GUESS.
AND IT'S WORKED OUT
EXTREMELY WELL.

Kevin says AND THEY TAKE TO
THE CITY ENVIRONMENTS JUST
AS EASILY AS WE WOULD TO A
WOODLAND?

Dan says YES, THEY
CERTAINLY HAVE.
THERE'S A HUGE FOOD SOURCE
IN THE FORM OF PIGEONS AND
STARLINGS AND HOUSE
SPARROWS.
THEY'RE PRIMARILY
BIRD-EATERS.
AND THE LEDGES, THE HUGE SKY
SCRAPERS MIMIC THE CLIFFS
THAT THEY NORMALLY NEST ON
AND YEAH, THEY'RE DOING
EXTREMELY WELL.

Kevin says THEY DON'T EAT THE
PIGEONS THOUGH.

Dan says OH, THEY
WILL.

Kevin says WILL THEY?
I'M SURE PEOPLE DON'T SHARE
THE SENSE THAT THEY SHOULD
BE OUT THERE RAVAGING ON THE
PIGEONS.
ARE THEY STILL ENDANGERED?

Dan says YES, THEY
ARE.

Kevin says WHAT CAUSED THEM
TO REACH THAT STATUS?

Dan says IT WAS
PRIMARILY THE USE OF D.D.T.,
THE LARGE SCALE USE OF D.D.T.
IN THE LATE '40s AND '50s
THAT DECIMATED THE PEREGRINE,
MANY OTHER BIRDS OF PREY AND
GENERALLY OTHER BIRDS HIGH
ON THE FOOD CHAIN, A LOT OF
WATER BIRDS, AND THAT
AFFECTED THEIR BREEDING
SUCCESS IN THEIR EGG
DEVELOPMENT.
SO THEY DECLINED
DRAMATICALLY TO THE POINT
WHERE -- I THINK WE LOST
ALL.
THERE MIGHT HAVE BEEN ONE
NESTING PAIR --

Kevin says IN THE ENTIRE
PROVINCE?

Dan says YEAH, IN
EASTERN CANADA, REALLY.
SO THEY UNDERTOOK A VERY
ELABORATE PROCESS OF CAPTIVE
BREEDING BIRDS IN ALBERTA.

Kevin says OKAY.

Dan says AND THEN
SHIPPING THEM ALL OVER THE
COUNTRY INTO THESE HACK
SITES, WHAT'S CALLED HACK
SITES.
AND THEY MIGHT HAVE BEEN ON
CLIFFS IN NORTHERN ONTARIO,
SOME OF THEM WERE ON SKY
SCRAPERS IN TORONTO AND OVER
THAT 20 YEARS OR SO, THE
FEDERAL GOVERNMENT,
PRIMARILY, SAID WE HAVE 30
BREEDING PAIRS NOW IN THE
PROVINCE.
THAT'S OUR -- OUR PROGRAM
HAS BEEN A SUCCESS, SO THE
OFFICIAL PROGRAMME HAS SORT
OF BEEN PUT ASIDE AND NOW
THE CANADIAN PEREGRINE
FOUNDATION HAS SORT OF TAKEN
UP THE REIGNS AND IS
CONTINUING THE PROGRAMME
VERY NICELY.

Kevin says SO HOW MUCH HUMAN
INVOLVEMENT IS THERE IN THE
RE-INTRODUCTION OR GETTING
IT MAYBE EVEN OFF THE
ENDANGERED SPECIES LIST?

Dan says A HUGE
AMOUNT.
THIS WAS ONE OF THE MOST
INTENSIVE RECOVERY
PROGRAMMES, BECAUSE OF THE
CAPTIVE BREEDING AND HACKING,
THESE BIRDS HAD TO BE LOOKED
AFTER AT THE HACK SITES FOR
MONTHS, JUST BY HUMAN
FEEDING AND STUFF LIKE THAT.
SO A VERY INTENSE AND VERY
EXPENSIVE PROGRAMME.
AND LOOKING AT THE CANADIAN
PEREGRINE FOUNDATION'S WORK
THIS PAST YEAR, THEY
ACTUALLY HE RADIO TAGGED FOR
SATELLITE TELEMETRY FOUR
BIRDS IN RICHMOND HILL, AND
EACH ONE OF THOSE COST LIKE
10,000 DOLLARS A BIRD.

Kevin says REALLY?

Dan says YEAH, SO
IT'S EXPENSIVE STUFF.

Kevin says WE'RE TALKING
BIRDING WITH NATURALIST DAN
STUCKEY AND IF YOU HAVE A
QUESTION ON BIRDING AND
BIRDS -- OR PERHAPS YOU'VE
SPOTTED ONE IN THE BACKYARD
NOW THAT SPRING IS UPON US
AND YOU'D LIKE TO SHARE IT
WITH US PLEASE GIVE US A
CALL. IN TORONTO, OUR NUMBER
IS 416 484-2727. CALL US TOLL
FREE IF IT’S LONG DISTANCE.
1-888-411-1234 AND YOU CAN E-MAIL
YOUR QUESTION TO MORETOLIFE@TVO.ORG
AND RIGHT NOW WE
HAVE A CALL FROM CARRIE, I
THINK SHE'S IN THUNDER BAY.
HELLO, CARRIE.

Carrie says HI THERE.

Kevin says HOW ARE YOU?

Carrie says I'M GETTING OVER
A RESPIRATORY INFECTION, I'M
SORRY ABOUT THAT.

Kevin says OH, THAT'S ALL
RIGHT.

Carrie says NO, I MEAN MY
VOICE WILL BE STRANGE.
I HAVE BEEN PART OF A
BACKYARD BIRD WATCHER'S
STUDY, IT'S CALLED BIRD
STUDIES OF CANADA.

Kevin says OKAY.

Carrie says AND THE CANADIAN
NATURE FEDERATION HAS BEEN
DOING IT IT'S MY FIRST YEAR,
AND I FIND IT
EXTRAORDINARILY INTERESTING
AND RECOMMEND EVERYBODY DO
IT.

Kevin says WHAT ARE YOU
ACTUALLY DOING, CARRIE AS
PART OF THE STUDY?

Carrie says WELL, UM, FROM
NOVEMBER THROUGH MARCH,
EVERY TWO WEEKS, I'M GIVING
THEM INFORMATION ON THE KIND
OF BIRDS THAT I HAVE AROUND
ME.
AND I HAVE ONLY TWO FEEDERS,
ALTHOUGH I'VE PUT UP LITTLE
BIRD PUDDINGS AND STUFF LIKE
THAT THAT MY GRANDCHILDREN
HELP ME WITH.
BUT I'M TERRIBLY CONFUSED.
I HAVE ABOUT 80 CHIPPING
SPARROWS THAT ARE COMING
AROUND RIGHT NOW.

Dan says OOH.

Carrie says AND THEY SEEM TO
BE -- I'M WONDERING IF THEY
FLOCK WITH RED POLES, WHO
LOOK TERRIBLY SIMILAR EXCEPT
FOR THAT RED BLUSH ON THEIR
CHESTS.
BUT WHAT I'M CONFUSED ABOUT
IS SOME OF THESE -- I'M
LOOKING THROUGH MY
BINOCULARS -- DO NOT HAVE
THE BLACK CHIN SPOTS THAT
RED POLES NORMALLY HAVE.

Dan says RIGHT.

Carrie says SO IS IT POSSIBLE
THAT CHIPPING SPARROWS, DUE
TO THEIR HORMONES OR
WHATEVER...
(LAUGHING)...AT THIS TIME OF YEAR, GET
A BLUSHY SOMETHING ON THEIR
CHESTS?

Dan says NO THEY
DON'T.
I JUST TO WANT ASK YOU A
QUESTION THERE.
YOU ARE CALLING FROM THUNDER
BAY?

Carrie says YEAH, AND I HAVE
TEN INCHES OF SNOW.
I LIVE IN THE COUNTRY.

Kevin says WOW.

Dan says I'M JUST
GOING TO QUESTION YOU ON THE
CHIPPING SPARROW
IDENTIFICATION FOR THE FIRST
THING.
CHIPPING SPARROWS ARE NOT
REALLY COMING BACK IN BIG
NUMBERS, AND ESPECIALLY IN
THUNDER BAY.
I WOULD JUST, JUST QUESTION
YOU SLIGHTLY.
ARE YOU SURE THEY'RE NOT
AMERICAN TREE SPARROWS?

Carrie says YES, ABSOLUTELY!
I HAD NO IDEA.
JUST LAST YEAR I HAD ABOUT
40 CHIPPING SPARROWS IN
MARCH.

Dan says ALL RIGHT.
OKAY.

Kevin says SO IS IT POSSIBLE,
WHAT CARRIE'S ASKING, I
GUESS, IS ARE THE BIRDS
GETTING A BIT OF SPRING
FEVER.

Dan says THE CHIPPING
SPARROW WILL NOT SHOW ANY
REDDISH BLUSH IN THEM AT ALL
SO PROBABLY WHAT YOU ARE
STILL SEEING THERE ARE THE
RED POLES.

Carrie says WELL THEY BOTH
HAVE THE WHITE WING BARS.
CHIPPING SPARROWS, OF COURSE,
HAVE THE BLACK STREAK
THROUGH THEIR EYE.

Dan says THAT'S
CORRECT.

Carrie says AND SO IS IT
POSSIBLE THAT RED POLES
SOMETIMES DON'T HAVE THE
CHIN SPOTS?

Dan says OH,
ABSOLUTELY.

Carrie says OH, I'M SO
GRATEFUL.

Dan shows images of a chipping sparrow from a book.

Dan says YEAH, THEY
CAN, THEY CAN BE -- LIKE
THAT IDENTIFICATION FEATURE
CAN BE LESS ON INDIVIDUALS
AND MORE PRONOUNCED IN
OTHERS.
THERE'S THE CHIPPING
SPARROW.
AND YOU'VE GOT A GOOD EARLY
FLOCK THERE NOW.
AND THE RED POLES WILL BE
LEAVING YOU SOON, AND
HEADING FURTHER NORTH TO DO
THEIR BREEDING.
SO ONCE YOU -- YOU'LL SOON
START SEEING THOSE REDDISH
ONES DISAPPEAR.

Kevin says GREAT.
OKAY, WELL THANKS, CARRIE,
GOOD LUCK WITH YOUR
RESEARCH.
I'M GLAD THAT DAN CAN HELP
YOU OUT THERE A BIT.
I'M AMAZED, TEN INCHES OF
SNOW AND THE BIRDS ARE STILL
COMING BACK.

Dan says OH, YEAH,
THEY'LL BE TAKING GREAT
ADVANTAGE OF HER FEEDERS
RIGHT NOW.

Kevin says OKAY, WE'LL GET TO
THAT LATER.
RIGHT NOW WE'RE GOING TO GO
TO ANOTHER CALL, THIS ONE'S
FROM ORILLIA AND IT'S NORMA
ON THE LINE.
HELLO.

Norma says HELLO.

Kevin says HI, WHAT'S YOUR
QUESTION FOR DAN.

Norma says I WANTED TO KNOW,
WE HAVE A LOT OF THESE
BLACKBIRDS OR STARLINGS AND
I'VE HEARD THE WORD
GRACKLES.
AND I WONDERED WHAT ARE
THEY?
THEY'RE BIGGER THAN ROBINS
AND THEY'RE NESTING ALL OVER
AND THEY'RE A NUISANCE.

Dan says (LAUGHING)
OKAY.
I'LL ASK YOU ONE QUESTION.
THEY COULD BE BLACKBIRDS.
THEY COULD BE GRACKLES AND
THEY COULD BE STARLINGS.
THE EASIEST WAY FOR ME TO
HELP THROUGH, IS THE TAIL A
REALLY SHORT STUBBY TAIL?
IS IT A TAIL THAT MIGHT LOOK
JUST NORMAL TO BODY LENGTH,
LIKE A ROBIN, OR IS IT
A LONG TAIL THAT'S QUITE
NOTICEABLY LONG?

Norma says OH, DEAR.
I HAVEN'T REALLY NOTICED.
I'M SORRY, BUT IF YOU TELL
ME THE DIFFERENCE I'LL
REMEMBER NOW.

Dan says WELL THE GRACKLE HAS
QUITE A LONG TAIL
TO BODY LENGTH AND IT'S
QUITE NOTICEABLE.
THE STARLING HAS A VERY
SHORT STUBBY TAIL, AND THE
BLACKBIRDS, IF THEY'RE
NESTING AROUND, IF YOU'RE
NOT SEEING THE RED-WINGED
BLACKBIRD, THAT WOULD BE THE
COMMON ONE, WITH RED
EPAULETTES, IT'S PROBABLY
EITHER THE STARLING OR THE
GRACKLE AND IT COULD BE
EITHER.
SO IF IT'S A STUBBY TAIL
IT'S STARLINGS IF IT'S GOT A
NICE FLOWING TAIL, IT'S THE
COMMON GRACKLE.

Norma says THANK YOU.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

Dan says AND BOTH OF
THOSE SPECIES, THE GRACKLE
AND STARLING CAN NEST
ABUNDANTLY IN URBAN AREAS.

Kevin says HOPEFULLY THEY
WON'T CONTINUE TO BE TOO
MUCH OF A PROBLEM FOR THE
PEOPLE OF ORILLIA.
THANK YOU NORMA FOR YOUR
CALL.
LET'S TAKE AN E-MAIL FROM
JEANETTE IN TORONTO.
WE'RE SUPPOSED TO BE
CELEBRATING BIRDS BUT WE'RE
ON A BIT OF A NUISANCE
ANGLE.
“I LIVE IN A DOWNTOWN BROWN
STONE WHERE THE PIGEONS HAVE
INVADED.
OFTEN WHEN I GO OFF TO WORK
IN THE MORNING A FEW HAVE
LEFT A FEW PRESENTS FOR ME
TO AVOID AS I MAKE MY WAY
DOWN THE STEPS.
IS THERE ANYTHING I OR MY
NEIGHBOURS CAN DO TO GET RID
OF THESE PESKY PRESENCE?”

Dan says PIGEONS IN
AN URBAN AREA ARE ALWAYS OF
A LOTS OF CONCERN TO MOST
PEOPLE.
THEY'VE CHOSEN THAT LOCATION
PERHAPS BECAUSE OF ITS
ROOSTING CHARACTERISTICS, A
VERY NICE ROOSTING SITE.
THERE ARE SOME NON-LETHAL
METHODS OF ELIMINATING ROOST
SITES FROM THEM.
AND YOU CAN CONTACT FOR
ADVICE A REPUTABLE WILDLIFE
CONTROL AGENCY.
THERE ARE SORT OF BARBED
WIRE KINDS OF MATERIALS THAT
YOU CAN WRAP ON RAILINGS AND
ALONG LEDGES AND THINGS THAT
WILL PREVENT THEM THE FIRST
TIME THEY LAND ON IT --

Kevin says YEAH, IT'S NOT
MEANT TO HURT THEM, JUST TO
GET THEM AWAY FROM THERE AND
FIND SOMEWHERE ELSE TO NEST.

Dan says EXACTLY AND
THAT'S PROBABLY THE BEST
METHOD OF ELIMINATING SO
WHAT I SUGGEST IS LOOK AT
THE HOUSE, SEE WHERE THEY'RE
ROOST ASKING THEN PERHAPS
INSTALL THAT KIND OF STUFF
YOURSELF OR GET, AGAIN, A
REPUTABLE WILDLIFE CONTROL
AGENCY.

Kevin says WHAT ABOUT THE OLD
ADAGE -- THE PLASTIC OWL.
DOES THAT HAVE ANY VALIDITY?

Dan says NONE AT ALL.
I WILL SAY ONE THING,
THOUGH.
WE'VE TRIED THIS ELIMINATING
GULLS FROM NESTING IN
CERTAIN AREAS WHERE WE DON'T
WANT THEM ON OUR WATERFRONT
PROPERTIES.
PLASTIC OWLS DON'T WORK BUT
WE HAVE HAD SUCCESS WITH A
MOUNTED SPECIMEN OF AN OWL,
WHERE I GUESS THE WIND BLOWS
THROUGH THE FEATHERS, IT
LOOKS MUCH MORE REAL LOIS
STICK, AND THAT WILL WORK.
BUT THE PLASTIC OWLS --

Kevin says DON'T EVEN BOTHER.
DON'T WASTE YOUR MONEY.
OKAY TO HILDA IN HANOVER.
HELLO, HILDA.

Hilda says HELLO.

Kevin says HOW ARE YOU?

Hilda says NOT TOO BAD.

Kevin says WHAT'S YOUR
QUESTION FOR DAN?

Hilda says I'LL BE VERY
QUICK.
I'LL TELL YOU WHAT IT IS.
LAST SUMMER I HAD A BUNCH OF
BIRDS, LIKE HUMMINGBIRDS
WITH A VERY LONG BEAK, THEY
HAVE KIND OF A SLATE BACK
AND AN IVORY TUMMY.

Dan says REALLY LONG
BEAK?

Hilda says YES, AND THEY
FEED OFF THE FEEDERS.

Dan says AT THE
FEEDERS.

Hilda says YUP.

Dan says AND THEY'RE
NOT HUMMINGBIRDS?

Hilda says OH.
THAT COLOUR?

Dan says WELL THE
FEMALES IN JUVENILE -- WE
HAVE ONE SPECIES OF
HUMMING BIRD -- ARE THEY
GOING TO A HUMMINGBIRD
FEEDER?

Dan says OKAY, WE
HAVE ONE SPECIES OF
HUMMINGBIRD IN THE PROVINCE,
THE RUBY-THROATED
HUMMINGBIRD.

Hilda says YEAH, I HAVE
THAT.

Dan says THE MALES
ARE THE ONLY ONES WITH THE
BRIGHT RED THROAT
COLOURATION.
FEMALES AND JUVENILES DO NOT
HAVE THAT.
IN CERTAIN LIGHT CONDITIONS
THE GREENISH COLOUR ON THE
BACK MIGHT APPEAR A SLATEY
GREY OR GREYISH, JUST
BECAUSE OF NO LIGHT
REFRACTION HAPPENING.
SO IF THEY'RE HOVERING AT A
HUMMINGBIRD FEEDER, THEY
LOOK LIKE A HUMMINGBIRD,
THEY'LL BE A HUMMINGBIRD.

Kevin says CHANCES ARE
THEY'RE --
CAN YOU SHOW US A PICTURE?

Dan says YEAH, SURE.

Kevin says HILDA, I'M
HEARING SOME CHIRPING IN THE
BACKGROUND.
ARE THOSE SOME BIRDS OF
YOURS?

Hilda says JUST A BUDGIE.

Kevin says A BUDGIE?
A VERY MUSICAL BUDGIE.
SO LET'S SEE IF WE CAN'T
FIND A PICTURE IN DAN'S
BIBLE OF BIRDS HERE.

Dan says YOU GOT IT
AGAIN, HERE IT IS.

Hilda says YEAH.

Dan shows a picture of a humming bird from his book.

Dan says WE'RE
UNFORTUNATE IN ONTARIO
BECAUSE WE ONLY HAVE ONE
RESIDENT.
WE'VE HAD VISITORS OF
DIFFERENT SPECIES SHOWING UP
NOW AND AGAIN BUT THE
RUBY-THROATED HUMMINGBIRD IS
THE ONLY ONE OF EASTERN
NORTH AMERICA, NORTH EASTERN
NORTH AMERICA AND AS YOU CAN
SEE THE MALE HAS THE BRIGHT
RED THROAT PATCH AND THE
FEMALES AND YOUNG OF THE
YEAR DO NOT.

Hilda says YEAH, WELL I HAVE
THEM.
SEE, I HAVE FOUR HUMMING
FEEDERS OUT.
AND I HAVE THEM.
AND THAT ONE, THE, KIND OF
THE GREY BACK?

Dan says WELL, THIS
AGAIN IS THE ONLY SPECIES WE
WOULD SEE WITH ANY
REGULARITY IN ONTARIO.

Kevin says JUST TILT THAT
FORWARD TO GET THE FLARE OFF
DAN.
DOES IT LOOK LIKE ONE OF THE
OTHER ONES, HILDA?

Hilda says YEAH, THE GREY --
THE ONE WITH THE KIND OF
WHITE ON IT I CALLED IVORY.

Dan says WELL THESE
ONES DOWN HERE WOULD NOT BE
SHOWING UP AS THE RANGE MAP
WOULD SHOW.
BUT HOW ABOUT THIS ONE
INDIVIDUAL UP HERE?

He shows a humming bird with a gold back.

Hilda says HUH.

Kevin says IS IT THAT ONE OR
THIS ONE HERE?

He points at a bird with a green back.

Hilda says YEAH, THAT ONE
YOU'RE POINTING AT.

Dan says OH, OKAY.
YEAH, SO YOU'RE SEEING --
AND THE MALES, IN THE
HUMMINGBIRD WORLD, MALES ARE
KIND OF BOUNDERS IN A SENSE.
THEY JUST COME UP AND DO
THEIR BUSINESS AND THEN
THEY'RE GONE PRETTY QUICKLY,
AND THE RAISING OF THE
FAMILY IS LEFT SOLELY UP TO
THE FEMALE.

Kevin says REALLY?

Dan says SO EARLY IN
THE SUMMER WE DO SEE THE
MALES DISAPPEAR, AND ALL WE
DO SEE ARE FEMALES AND YOUNG
OF THE YEAR.
AND EVEN YOUNG OF THE YEAR
MALES WILL NOT HAVE THE RED
THROAT UNTIL THE NEXT YEAR.

Kevin says OKAY.

Dan says SO YEAH.

Kevin says THANKS FOR YOUR
CALL, HILDA.
SOMETHING ELSE I WANT TO ASK
YOU ABOUT DAN, I DON'T KNOW
HOW MUCH ELSE YOU CAN EXPAND
ON THIS, BUT IN CERTAIN
AREAS THERE'S BEEN A PROBLEM
WITH CONTAMINATION OF
BIRDFEEDERS THAT CAN I GUESS
EVENTUALLY LEAD TO DEATH OF
CERTAIN SONGBIRDS.
WHAT DO YOU KNOW ABOUT
THIS?

Dan says WELL IT IS
ALWAYS A PROBLEM -- IT CAN
BE A PROBLEM.
APPARENTLY THAT DIE-OFF IN
THE PRAIRIE PROVINCES OF DUE
TO THE SALMONELLA BACTERIA,
AND THAT ALWAYS SHOULD BE A
CONCERN ANYBODY FEEDING
BIRDS, IS MAINTAINING THEIR
FEEDERS IN GOOD SHAPE.
AND IT'S A SIMPLE THING AS
CLEANING THE FEEDER WITH
SOME REGULARITY, WITH A WEAK
CLEANING SOLUTION.

Kevin says OKAY.

Dan says AND THE TYPE
OF FEEDER IS ALSO IMPORTANT,
BECAUSE THAT BACTERIA IS
OFTEN PASSED FROM BIRD TO
BIRD THROUGH THE FECES OF
THE BIRD.

Kevin says OKAY.

Dan says SO YOU WANT
TO BUY ONE OF THOSE FEEDERS
OR BUILD ONE OF THOSE
FEEDERS THAT ONLY ALLOWS
LIMITED ACCESS TO THE SEED
ITSELF AND NOT ONE OF THE
TYPES THAT THE BIRD CAN GET
IN AND WANDER AROUND ALL
OVER THE SEED.

Kevin says OKAY.

Dan says AND IF YOU
LOOK AFTER THOSE COUPLE OF
TIPS, OR DO THOSE THINGS,
THE PROBLEM SHOULDN'T ARISE.

Kevin says IT ONLY MAKES
SENSE.
I MEAN, IF YOU'RE GOING TO
HAVE A MEAL ON THE PLATE
YOU'RE GOING TO CLEAN THE
PLATE AFTER THE MEAL SO
THERE'S ONLY GOOD REASON TO
THINK YOU SHOULD PROBABLY
UPKEEP YOUR BIRD HOUSES
WHICH IS SOMETHING I GUESS
NOT A LOT OF PEOPLE THINK
OF.

Dan says NO, THEY
DON'T.
AND LUCKILY THERE HASN'T
BEEN A PROBLEM NOTICED IN
ONTARIO ANYWHERE.

Kevin says OKAY, GREAT.
SO WE'RE DOING A GREAT JOB
AT THAT.
RIGHT NOW WE HAVE A QUESTION
FROM LAURA IN OTTAWA.

Laura says HELLO THERE, A
QUICK QUESTION FOR DAN.

Kevin says YEAH.

Laura says I AM GOING TO GO
TO POINT PELEE FIRST OF MAY.

Dan says GOOD FOR YOU.

Laura says AM I GOING TO BE
OUT OF LUCK?

Dan says FIRST OF
MAY?

Laura says YEAH.

Dan says NO.
YOU COULD HIT THINGS -- THE
ONE THING I ALWAYS RECOMMEND
IF PEOPLE GO TO PELEE IS
THAT YOU TAKE A BIT OF A
LENGTH OF TIME.
BECAUSE IF YOU'RE ONLY THERE
FOR A DAY OR TWO, YOU MIGHT
MISS ANY FALL-OUT OF
MIGRANTS COMPLETELY AND
YOU'LL BE WANDERING AROUND
THE PARK, SEEING SOME
INTERESTING THINGS BUT YOU
WON'T EXPERIENCE THAT
WONDEROUS TIME AT PELEE THAT
IT'S FAMOUS FOR WHEN THE
TREES ARE DRIPPING WITH
BIRDS, AS WE SAY.
SO IF YOU CAN, EXTEND THE
TRIP FOR A NUMBER OF DAYS,
LIKE FOUR OR FIVE DAYS, OR
LONGER, IF YOU CAN.
JUST TO ENSURE THAT YOU ARE
THERE FOR ONE DAY THAT HAS A
PROPER WEATHER CONDITIONS,
THAT'LL DROP THE BIRDS DOWN
ON YOUR LAP.
BUT, SAYING THAT, FIRST OF
MAY ON, ANY TIME THROUGH MAY,
YOU COULD SEE SOME
EXCEPTIONAL BIRDS AND EARLY
IN MAY IS WHEN WE OFTEN SEE
THE RARE SOUTHERN OFF-SHOOTS
THAT HAVE COME NORTH A
LITTLE TOO FAR, STOP AT
PELEE AND THEN HEAD BACK.
SO YOU MIGHT HIT ACTUALLY
SOME OF THE NEAT WARBLERS
AND THINGS THAT SHOW UP
EARLY.

Kevin says THAT'S GREAT.
SO TAKE A LITTLE VACATION
AND GO DOWN AND ENJOY POINT
PELEE.

Dan says IT'S
EXCELLENT.

Kevin says OKAY, EDNA IN
CASTLETON.
HELLO.

Edna says HELLO.

Kevin says HI, HOW ARE YOU?

Edna says FINE THANKS.

Kevin says WHAT'S YOUR
QUESTION FOR DAN.

Edna says I DON'T HAVE A
QUESTION BUT I SAW A BLUE
HERON ON MY POND EARLY THIS
MORNING AND I JUST WONDERED
IF THAT WAS EARLY.

Dan says WHERE ARE
YOU AGAIN?

Edna says CASTLETON, PAST
THE 401-YEAR COBOURG.

Dan says NO, IT ISN'T
EARLY.
I'VE BEEN WATCHING A
HERON -- I LIVE NORTH OF
HIGHWAY 9 -- I'VE BEEN
WATCHING A HERONRY UP THERE
AND THE BIRDS HAVE RETURNED
SINCE EARLY MARCH.
GREAT BLUE HERONS CAN
ACTUALLY -- THEY DON'T GO
TOO FAR SOUTH NECESSARILY,
AND AS LONG AS THERE'S OPEN
WATER, I'VE SEEN THEM WELL
INTO THE WINTER, INTO ALMOST
CHRISTMAS AND DECEMBER, AND
SEE THEM COMING BACK IN
EARLY MARCH.
SO IT'S A NORMAL SIGHTING,
AND YOU SHOULD ENJOY IT AT
THE POND.

Kevin says THEY'RE A FABULOUS
BIRD.

Dan says YEAH.

Kevin says YEAH.
THANKS EDNA FOR YOUR CALL.
WE'RE GOING TO TAKE AN
E-MAIL NOW, GETTING TO SOME
OTHER BIRDS THAT ARE MAKING
THEIR WAY BACK, I GUESS.
ROBIN FLOCK SPOTTED IN
KITCHENER AT CHRISTMAS.
ROBINS IN KITCHENER AT
CHRISTMAS.
MY MOTHER-IN-LAW SPOTTED A
LARGE FLOCK OF ROBINS IN HER
WOODLOTTED BACKYARD AT
CHRISTMAS TIME IN KITCHENER.
SHE WAS TEASED AND TOLD SHE
WAS SEEING THINGS.
CAN YOU EXPLAIN AND
EXONERATE MY MOTHER-IN-LAW
ON THIS UNUSUAL SIGHTING?
AND HOW UNUSUAL ARE ROBINS
IN THE MIDDLE OF WINTER?”

Dan says UM, NOT --
IT'S GETTING MORE USUAL.

Kevin says YEAH.

Dan says THERE'S
ALWAYS, THERE'S ALWAYS AN
OPPORTUNITY, THERE'S ALWAYS
A CHANCE OF SEEING ROBINS AT
ANY TIME IN THE WINTERTIME.
WE DO HAVE POPULATIONS,
WINTER IN SOUTHERN ONTARIO.
OVER THE LAST NUMBER OF
YEARS, BECAUSE OF WEATHER
CONDITIONS AND HI BERRY
CROPS AND THINGS, IT DOES
SEEM TO SUGGEST THAT WE'RE
SEEING MORE ROBINS WINTERING
NORTH OF THEIR NORMAL WINTER
RANGE.
BUT WE -- I'VE BEEN WATCHING
ROBINS ALL WINTER, BASICALLY.

Kevin says SO THEY'RE NOT
DETERRED BY THE COLD
ANYMORE?
I GUESS -- WHAT'S KEEPING
THEM HERE?
IS IT THE FACT THAT THEY CAN
FIND ENOUGH FOOD?
TO KEEP THEM THROUGH THE
WINTER?

Dan says WELL, THAT'S
CRITICAL.
AND IT DOES -- THERE'S SOME
RESEARCH GOING ON THAT
SUGGESTS THAT SNOW LOAD
ALSO -- THERE WAS THE ONE
ARTICLE WHICH SUGGESTS AREAS
WITH FIVE OR LESS INCHES OF
SNOW WILL HOLD MORE ROBINS
IN AREAS -- THAN AREAS WITH
FIVE INCHES OR MORE.
BUT IT IS PRIMARILY FOOD.
THEIR ABILITY TO WITHSTAND
COLD IS FINE, AS LONG AS
THEY HAVE A GOOD FOOD
SOURCE.
AND THE LOW SNOW LOAD ALLOWS
THEM TO FORAGE AT ANY LEVEL
ON THE GROUND UP THROUGH
SHRUB LAYERS.

Kevin says IS THIS TRUE OF A
LOT OF THE SPECIES OF BIRDS
OR IS IT JUST PARTICULARLY
THE ROBIN THAT SEEMS TO BE
KIND OF MAYBE STAYING UP
HERE FOR THE WINTER AS
OPPOSED TO GOING SOUTH?

Dan says IF YOU LOOK
AT -- THE NEO-TROPICAL
MIGRANTS -- YOU CAN LOOK AT
TWO GROUPS, THE
NEO-TEMPERATE AND THE
NEO-TROPICAL AND THEY GO TO
THE TROPICS AND THEY'RE MADE
PRIME LEAF INSECT-EATERS SO
THEY WILL NOT BE ABLE TO
WINTER HERE.

Kevin says THEY'RE OUT OF HERE AT
THANKSGIVING.

Dan says YEAH,
THEY'RE GONE.
THE NEO-TEMPERATE ONES DON'T
GO THAT FAR DOWN SOUTH.
ROBINS, THINGS LIKE THAT
THEY ARE QUITE TOLERANT OF
WEATHER CONDITIONS AND AS
LONG AS FOOD IS AROUND.
AND I WANT JUST MIGHT
MENTION, ONE THING THAT'S
OCCURRING AGAIN, LIKE ROBINS
WINTERING IN THE HIGHER
NUMBERS, A BEAUTIFUL
RELATIVE OF THEM, THE
EASTERN BLUEBIRD.
BECAUSE OF CONSERVATION
EFFORTS OVER THE LAST 20
YEARS, THEY'VE REALLY
REBOUNDED IN NUMBERS AS WELL
AND WE'RE STARTING TO SEE
THEM WINTER IN ONTARIO.

Kevin says THE BLUEBIRD?

Dan says THE
BLUEBIRD.

Kevin says DO YOU HAVE A
PHOTO OF THAT YOU COULD SHOW
US WHILE YOU'RE --

Dan says IT'S A GLORIOUS
BIRD AND SPEAKING WITH THE
OLD TIMER BIRD WATCHERS WHO
HAVE BEEN BIRD WATCHING IN
THE PROVINCE FOR 30, 40, 50
YEARS, THEY REMEMBER
BLUEBIRDS WINTERING IN
THE -- IT'LL JUST TAKE ME A
SECOND HERE.

He browses a book looking for a picture of the bluebird.

Kevin says IT'S A GREAT HOBBY,
BIRD WATCHING.

Dan says YEAH.

Kevin says IT'S VERY RELAXING,
GETS YOU OUT INTO NATURE.
ALTHOUGH I GUESS YOU COULD
DO IT JUST AS EASILY FROM
YOUR BACKYARD.

Dan says YEAH, YOU
CAN DO IT FROM THE BACK
WINDOW, YOU CAN GO TO PELEE
AS THE ONE VIEWER IS DOING.
YOU CAN TRAVEL TO THE
GALAPAGOS, YOU CAN TAKE IT
AS FAR AS YOU WANT.
I'M ALMOST THERE.

Kevin says NO QUESTION.
CAN I ASK YOU A QUESTION.

Dan says SURE.

Kevin says SO IF ROBIN
SIGHTINGS NOW TYPICALLY ARE
THE FIRST SIGN OF SPRING IS
THERE A BIRD SIGN THAT LET'S
US KNOW SPRING IS ON ITS
WAY?

Dan says THERE ARE
CERTAIN BIRDS THAT I WATCH
FOR EARLY IN THE SPRING.
AND IT WAS VERY EARLY
RECORDS THIS YEAR, BUT THE
RED-WINGED BLACKBIRD IS
REALLY ONE THAT I PERSONALLY
WATCH, AND LISTEN FOR AROUND
CATTAIL MARSHES AND THINGS
LIKE THAT AND WE HAD THEM
RETURNING IN LATE FEBRUARY.

Kevin says HOW'S YOUR BIRD
CALLING?

Dan says OH, I CAN'T
DO THAT ONE.

Kevin says YOU CAN'T DO THE
RED WINGED BLACKBIRD?

Dan says NO, I CAN'T.

Kevin says AW, THAT’S OK.

Dan says BUT THINGS
LIKE THE RED-WINGED
BLACKBIRD, THE KILLDEER, A
MEMBER OF THE PLOVER FAMILY,
EASTERN MEDOWLARK, THESE ARE
TRULY MORE OF THE HARBINGERS
OF SPRING FOR ME, AT LEAST,
IN THIS AREA OF THE
PROVINCE.

Kevin says AND YOU FOUND US
THE EASTERN BLUEBIRD?

Dan says YES, IT IS.
AND AGAIN, STARTING TO
WINTER IN THE PROVINCE, IS
JUST A GOOD EDUCATION OF ITS
POPULATION HEALTH AND ITS
IT'S REALLY NEAT TO FIND
THIS BIRD FLYING AROUND IN
THE FUTURE.

He shows the picture of a bird with a teal back and a gold yellow chest.

Kevin says IT IS A REALLY
BEAUTIFUL BIRD.
LET'S TALK TO JACK IN
TORONTO.
HELLO, JACK.

Jack says HI.
TWO QUESTIONS, ACTUALLY.

Kevin says SURE.

Jack says ONE IS OUR
NEIGHBOURS ARE COMPLAINING
THAT WE'RE FEEDING THE
BIRDS.
IN THE WINTER WE FILL OUR
BIRDFEEDERS MAYBE TWO TIMES
A DAY.
LOTS OF BIRDFEEDERS.
WE'VE GOT BLUE JAYS, EVERY
BIRD IMAGINABLE, EVEN CROWS.
EAGLES OUT THERE -- HE GOES
OUT THERE WITH POTS, PANS,
SCARES THE BIRD OFF.
IS THERE ANY BY LAW
BASICALLY WE CAN TELL HIM TO
SHUT UP AND LISTEN TO THE
BIRDS?

Dan says NO THERE
ISN'T.
BUT I'M NOT AWARE OF ANY
BYLAW THAT PROHIBITS YOU
FROM FEEDING BIRDS EITHER.
BUT THERE IS -- YOU'LL JUST
HAVE TO DO SOME EDUCATION
WITH THE GENTLEMEN, NEXT
DOOR NEIGHBOUR AND TRY TO
CONVINCE HIM THAT IT'S A
WONDERFUL THING TO OBSERVE.

Kevin says JACK, BEFORE WE GO
ONTO YOUR SECOND QUESTION,
WHAT IS IT THAT YOUR
NEIGHBOUR DOESN'T LIKE ABOUT
THE BIRDS?

Jack says UM, BASICALLY IT'S JUST
THAT THERE'S TOMB OF THEM.
THE BLUE JAYS WILL COME IN
THE MORNING FOR THE PEANUTS
AND THEY MAKE A RACKET
AROUND 7:00 OR EARLIER.
THE CROWS HANG OUT AT THE
TREES, WE'VE GOT MORNING
DOVES.
WE MIGHT HAVE ABOUT 25 OF
THEM IN THE WINTER, HANGING
OUT OF THE TREES.
IT'S VERY POSTCARD EFFECT,
YOU KNOW?

Dan says YES.

Jack says OKAY, NOW THE
OTHER QUESTION WE HAVE IS WE
BOUGHT THIS GIZMO FOR THE
BIRD BATH FOR THE WINTER TO
KEEP WATER BECAUSE
APPARENTLY BIRDS NEED WATER.
SOMEBODY SAID HEY, DON'T USE
IT BECAUSE THE BIRDS WILL
AUTOMATICALLY TAKE A BATH
AND FREEZE.
CAN YOU TELL ME ABOUT THAT?

Dan says ABSOLUTELY
NOT!
BIRDS WILL -- AS YOU CAN, AS
YOU ARE OBVIOUSLY AWARE,
WATER IN THE WINTERTIME IS
ONE OF THE HARDEST THINGS
FOR BIRDS TO FIND BECAUSE
IT'S IN A FROZEN STATE.

Kevin says SURE, AND I'M
SORRY, I'M REFERRING TO THE
GIZMO JACK BOUGHT.
YOU'RE TALKING A HEATER?

Jack says IT'S A LITTLE HEATER, YOU
KNOW, 69 DOLLARS OR WHATEVER.

Dan says LIKE AN
AQUARIUM HEATER.

Kevin says OKAY JUST KEEPS
THE WATER MOVING AND KEEPS
IT FROM FREEZING.

Dan says YEAH, AND NO,
BIRDS RELISH WATER,
ESPECIALLY IN THE
WINTERTIME.
THEY'RE QUITE ADAPTED TO
WASHING AND DRYING
THEMSELVES OUT WITHOUT ANY
FEAR OF FREEZING SO YOU'RE
DOING THEM -- ACTUALLY
YOU'RE DOING THEM A GREAT
SERVICE BY PROVIDING OPEN
WATER FOR THEM IN THE
WINTERTIME.

Kevin says YOU'RE LIKE THE
SUPER HERO OF BIRDS, JACK!
KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK.
LET'S GO TO ANOTHER LOVELY
PART OF THE PROVINCE, PORT
DOVER TO DON.
HI DON.

Don says HI.

Kevin says HOW ARE YOU?

Don says HOW ARE YOU
DOING?

Kevin says GOOD, THANK YOU.
WHAT'S YOUR QUESTION FOR
DAN?

Don says I'VE GOT A FEEDER
AND ON MY FEEDER ALL LAST
SUMMER I HAD AT LEAST 12 TO
14 GOLDFINCH.
THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN THEY
DISAPPEARED, AND I WASN'T
AWARE THAT GOLDFINCH LEFT.
I THOUGHT THEY WERE HERE ALL
WINTER.
AND NOW, ABOUT THREE WEEKS
AGO, ABOUT FOUR SHOWED UP,
AND NOW THEY'VE DISAPPEARED.
AM I JUST PUSHING THE SEASON
TOO MUCH OR ARE THEY COMING
BACK OR WHAT'S HAPPENED?

Dan says WELL, WITH
THE GOLDFINCH, THEY -- THERE
WILL BE NUMBERS OF THEM THAT
WILL WINTER IN THE PROVINCE,
AND YOU MAY BE FORTUNATE
ENOUGH TO HAVE THEM STICK
AROUND AT YOUR PARTICULAR
FEEDER FOR THE WINTER, OR
WITH THAT TYPE OF BIRD, THEY
BECOME VERY NOMADIC IN THE
WINTERTIME.
THEY'LL FLOCK AND THEN
THEY'LL BOP AROUND THE
LANDSCAPE AND VISIT HERE AND
THERE.
AND SO DON'T -- LIKE DON'T
WORRY ABOUT THAT.
BUT THEY'VE USED YOUR FEEDER,
THEN THEY'VE GONE ON
SOMEWHERE ELSE.
WE WILL SEE MORE OF THEM
RETURN THROUGH THE SPRING.
THEY WILL PERHAPS USE YOUR
FEEDER, THEN THEY WILL START
NESTING IN MAY.
AND THEIR DIET WILL CHANGE
TO A CERTAIN DEGREE.
THEY'LL START EATING A LOT
MORE INSECT MATTER AND
ESPECIALLY FEEDING THE YOUNG
THAT.
SO THEY MAY NOT UTILIZE THE
FEEDER AS MUCH.
SO JUST KEEP IT, YOU KNOW,
KEEP IT GOING AND YOU'LL SEE
THEM SPORADICALLY AS THEY SORT
OF NOMADICALLY BOP AROUND
YOUR AREA.

Kevin says THEY'RE JUST, I
GUESS, SHARING THEIR WEALTH
AND BEAUTY WITH YOUR
NEIGHBOURS.

Dan says YES.

Kevin says OKAY.
AN E-MAIL HERE, WE HAVE IT
FROM IT LOOKS LIKE JANE.
I'VE NOTICED THAT THE GRACKLES
THAT COME TO THE
FEEDER OFTEN POINT THEIR
HEADS STRAIGHT UP IN THE
AIR.
WHY DO THEY DO THIS?

Dan says OH, BOY.
I CAN'T ANSWER THAT.
I KNOW EXACTLY THE BEHAVIOUR
THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.
AND IT MIGHT BE SORT OF
ANTAGONISTIC BEHAVIOUR
BETWEEN TWO MALES.
FOR EXAMPLE I WATCH AND I
FIND IT QUITE HUMOROUS, THE
BALTIMORE ORIOLE, WHICH IS
RELATED TO THE GRACKLE,
THEIR ANTAGONISTIC BEHAVIOUR
BETWEEN TWO MALES WILL
HEADS-UP AND SORT OF DO A
LITTLE DANCE.
IF THAT, THAT PROBABLY IS
IT.
AND IT MIGHT ALSO HAVE
SOMETHING TO DO WITH FILLING
AIR SACKS IN THEIR BODY FOR
FLIGHT PURPOSES AND
BREATHING.
IT SEEMS THAT PERHAPS SOME
BIRDS HAVE TO DO THAT KIND
OF PHYSICAL BEHAVIOUR TO GET
AIR TRAVELLING THROUGH THEIR
SYSTEM.
BUT I SUGGEST THAT IT'S MORE
OF A GREETING OR
ANTAGONISTIC BEHAVIOUR
BETWEEN TWO MALES.

Kevin says GREAT.
OKAY, WE HAVE A CALL FROM
ROB IN LONDON RIGHT NOW.
HELLO, ROB.
ROB, ARE YOU THERE?
ROB?
OKAY, WELL WE'LL WORK ON
GETTING ROB ON THE LINE.
ONE OF THE FASCINATIONS THAT
PEOPLE HAVE ABOUT BIRD
WATCHING AND BIRDS IN
GENERAL, I GUESS, DEALS
AROUND THEIR MIGRATORY
PATTERNS.

Dan says YES.

Kevin says AND IT'S QUITE
FASCINATING TO THINK THAT
THESE BIRDS CAN FLY SO MANY
THOUSANDS OF MILES OR
KILOMETRES AND MAKE THEIR
WAY BACK TO ALMOST THE
IDENTICAL NESTING SPOTS YEAR
AFTER YEAR IS THAT SOMETHING
THAT THEY HAVE TO LEARN?
THERE'S BEEN A BIT OF TALK
WHETHER IT'S SOMETHING THAT
THEY'RE BORN WITH IT'S
INSTINCTIVE OR IF IT'S A
LEARNED TRAIT.

Dan says RIGHT.
THAT'S A HUGE QUESTION.
IT'S PROBABLY A BIT OF BOTH.
IN MOST BIRDS.
CERTAINLY JUVENILES, YOUNG
OF THE YEAR BIRDS OFTEN
FLOCK WITH EXPERIENCED
ADULTS ON THEIR MIGRATORY
TRIPS TO GET TO THE SOUTH
AND BACK.
BUT THERE SEEMS TO BE INNATE
COMPASS ABILITIES WITHIN
INDIVIDUAL BIRDS THAT EVEN
IF THEY DIDN'T HAVE HELP,
THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO GET TO
WHERE THEY WERE GOING AND
GET BACK WITH SOME SUCCESS.
BUT THERE IS A NEED TO OFTEN
TRAVEL WITH EXPERIENCED BIRDS
TO REALLY BE SUCCESSFUL IN
GETTING BACK.

Kevin says AND IS THAT WHAT
HAPPENED TO THAT FAMOUS
FLOCK OF GEESE THAT THE
GENTLEMEN A NUMBER OF YEARS
AGO WAS FORCED TO FLY DOWN
IN HIS LIGHTWEIGHT PLANE?
THEY JUST NEEDED A BIT OF
EXPERIENCE?

Dan says WELL, THAT'S
A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT IN
THE SENSE THAT THE SOUTHERN
ONTARIO POPULATION OF CANADA
GEESE WOULD JUST AS SOON BE
RESIDENTIAL -- OR RESIDENT
HERE.
WHAT HE WAS ATTEMPTING TO DO
WAS GET THEM MIGRATORY.

Kevin says OH, OKAY.

Dan says SO HE HAD
THEM IMPRINTED ON HIMSELF
AND HIS ULTRALIGHT AND WHEN
HE FLEW SOUTH, THEY FOLLOWED
HIM.
IF HE DIDN'T FLY SOUTH,
THEY'D JUST BE HANGIN'
OUT --

Kevin says THEY'D HANG OUT
HERE.
SO HE GOT A VACATION OUT OF
IT AS WELL.
WE'RE TALKING WITH DAN
STUCKEY WITH THE KORTRIGHT
CENTRE FOR CONSERVATION IN
KLEINBURG, ONTARIO.
WE'RE TALKING BIRDS AND
BIRDING.
AND IF YOU HAVE A QUESTION
OR AN E-MAIL HERE ARE THE
NUMBERS TO CALL.
IN TORONTO YOU CAN DIAL:
416 484-2727. CALL US TOLL
FREE IF IT’S LONG DISTANCE.
1-888-411-1234 AND YOU CAN E-MAIL
YOUR QUESTION TO MORETOLIFE@TVO.ORG
RIGHT NOW LET'S GO
UP TO SUNRIDGE AND WE'RE
TALKING TO TRIG.
HI TRIG.

Trig says HI.
DAN?

Dan says HI.

Trig says HI.
I LIVE BETWEEN HUNTSVILLE
AND NORTH BAY AND THERE'S A
SEASONAL BIRD THAT RETURNS
HERE, OH, LATE SPRING, EARLY
SUMMER I GUESS, MAYBE JUNE.
AND IT'S QUITE LARGE, LARGER
THAN A ROBIN, AND I NEVER
GET A CLOSE LOOK AT IT, BUT
THE SONG, YOU CAN'T MISTAKE
THE SONG, BECAUSE IT'LL SING
A PHRASE, ABOUT SIX OR SEVEN
DIFFERENT THINGS FROM EVEN
BUZZING AND CLICKING, AND
IT'S VERY MUSICAL.
AND I WONDER, ARE THERE
MOCKING BIRDS IN OUR AREA?

Dan says AH, THERE'S
THE OFF, THE OUTSIDE CHANCE
THAT YOU WOULD GET A MOCKING
BIRD UP THERE AS KIND OF A
VAGRANT.
THEY WOULDN'T CERTAINLY BE,
LIKE A NORMAL SUMMER
RESIDENT THAT FAR NORTH.
AND I WOULDN'T CALL THEM
BIGGER THAN A ROBIN.
THAT HE'D BE ACTUALLY
SLIGHTLY SMALLER IN A
SLIMMER SENSE.
BUT IF IT'S GOT A REALLY
VARIED CALL, AND IF IT'S
ROBIN SIZE-ISH AND IT'S GOT
A DIFFERENT CALL, IT MIGHT
BE A GREY CATBIRD, WHICH IS
RELATED TO THE MOCKING BIRD.
IT'S A MIMIC THAT RUSH,
WHICH IS WHAT THAT GROUP IS
REFERRED TO OFTEN.
IT MIGHT BE A GREY CAT BIRD
OR A BROWN THRASHER, EVEN UP
THERE, WHICH IS ANOTHER
MEMBER OF THAT GROUP.

Kevin says CAN YOU DO THE
CALLS?

Dan says NO!

Kevin says HE WON'T DO ANY
CALLS!
I WAS TOLD DO YOU SOME GREAT
BIRD CALLS.

Dan says WELL, I CAN
DO SOME, CERTAINLY I CAN DO
A COUPLE, BUT THESE ARE REAL
SONGSTERS AND I CAN'T
WHISTLE OR ANYTHING LIKE
THAT.

Kevin says THANKS, TRIG.
HOPEFULLY THAT HELPS.

Dan says YEAH.
AND AGAIN WITH THE MOCKING
BIRD, IF YOU CAN GET A GOOD
LOOK AT IT, IT'S VERY
DISTINCTIVE IN ITS GREYS AND
WHITES AND BLACK COLOURING.
BUT PROBABLY IF IT'S A
SONGSTER LIKE THAT IT MIGHT
BE A GREY CAT BIRD OR A
BROWN THRASHER.

Kevin says THANKS, TRIG.
GOING TO CASHEY LAKE RIGHT
NOW, TALKING TO MARY LEE.
OH, OKAY, WE DON'T HAVE MARY
LEE ON THE LINE.
LET'S GO TO AN E-MAIL, SHALL
I?
DAN, I LIVE CLOSE IN MAPLE,
JUST NORTH OF TORONTO AND
I'VE NOTICED LARGE SOARING
BLACKBIRDS WITH A SWIPE OF
GREY UNDER THEIR WING.
COULD THESE BE TRICKY
VULTURES AND IF SO WHAT ARE
THEY LIKELY FEEDING ON?
THIS IS FROM BARRY SCUPPIN.

Dan says YES, THEY
COULD BE, IF YOU'RE SEEING
THEM LATELY.
THE HAWK MIGRATION, OR BIRD
OF PREY MIGRATION IS IN FULL
SWING AND THE TURKEY
VULTURES ARE COMING BACK
DURING THAT MIGRATION.
AND I'VE CERTAINLY BEEN
SEEING THEM AROUND, AND YES,
THAT'S A GOOD POSSIBILITY.
LARGE BLACKBIRD WITH A
LIGHTER TRAILING EDGE OF
THEIR FLIGHT FEATHERS.

Kevin says I JUST TO WANT
INTERJECT HERE FOR A SECOND.
THEY'VE ACTUALLY
REINTRODUCED THE TURKEY
VULTURES IN THE ROUGE
VALLEY.

Dan says THAT'S THE
WILD TURKEY.

Kevin says OH, JUST WHEN I
THOUGHT I KNEW SOMETHING
ABOUT BIRDS, DAN'S HERE TO
PUT ME STRAIGHT.
OKAY, SO I'M SORRY, THAT'S
THE WILD TURKEY, NOT THE
TURKEY VULTURE.

Dan says RIGHT.

Kevin says OKAY.
I WAS THINKING, I DIDN'T SEE
HOW KIRK KEYS COULD BE THAT
BIG IN THE AIR, BUT I JUMPED
ON THAT.

Dan says JUST TO
TOUCH ON THAT WHAT THEY FEED
ON, STRICT CARRIERS, THEY
FEED ON DEAD ROADKILL AND
STUFF LIKE THAT AND CLEANING
UP ROADKILL AND THINGS ARE
SOMETHING THAT WE CAN BE
THANKFUL THAT THEY'RE DOING.
BUT THEY'RE FLYING AROUND
WITH THEIR EXCELLENT
EYESIGHT LOOKING FOR ANY
DEAD ANIMALS LYING ABOUT AND
THEY'LL PUT DOWN AND EAT
THAT.
AND THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE
DOING FOR US.

Kevin says OKAY.
IF THEY WERE WILD TURKEYS --

Dan says RIGHT.

Kevin says I'LL FOLLOW UP ON
THAT BECAUSE THEY HAVE IN
FACT REINTRODUCED THOSE INTO
THE ROUGE VALLEY WHICH IS I
GUESS JUST ON THE OUTSKIRTS
OF TORONTO.
WHAT DOES THAT DO, WHEN YOU
BRING SPECIES OF BIRDS INTO
AN AREA WHERE THEY HAVEN'T
LIVED IN SOMETIME?
DOES IT OFF-SET THE BALANCE
AT ALL WITH THE OTHER BIRDS
AND THE WHOLE ECOSYSTEM?

Dan says NOT REALLY.
WHAT WE'VE SEEN WITH THE
RE-INTRODUCTION WITH THE
TURKEY, AND IT'S BEEN VERY
SUCCESSFUL THROUGHOUT
SOUTHERN ONTARIO, RIGHT FROM
KINGSTON RIGHT DOWN TO LONG
POINTON AREA, UP TO GEORGIAN
BAY.
AND THEY'RE REALLY WELL
RE-ESTABLISHED NOW IN THE
PROVINCE.
WHAT YOU DO SEE IS THE --
THERE'S NO OTHER BIRDS
REALLY THAT THEY WOULD
COMPETE WITH.
IF ANYTHING, THEY COMPETE
WITH WHITE TAILED DEER, FOR
EXAMPLE.

Kevin says REALLY?!

Dan says FOR EATING
ACORNS AND BEECHNUTS AND
THINGS LIKE THAT THROUGH THE
LATE SUMMER, EARLY FALL.
WHAT I'VE NOTICED,
ESPECIALLY AROUND KORTRIGHT,
THROUGH THE INTRODUCTION
AROUND THAT AREA, NUMBERS
REALLY RISE THROUGH THE
FIRST FEW YEARS OF
INTRODUCTION, BECAUSE LOCAL
PREDATORS HAVEN'T FIGURED
THEM OUT YET.

Kevin says SURE.

Dan says AND THEN
THERE'S A BIT OF A DECLINE,
AND THEN THEY LEVEL OFF.

Kevin says OKAY, THEY FIND
THEIR PLACE, I GUESS.

Dan says YEAH, YEAH.

Kevin says WITHIN THE
ECOSYSTEM.

Dan says AND THAT'S
GENERALLY WHAT'S BEEN
OCCURRING THROUGHOUT THE
PROVINCE.

Kevin says OKAY, LET'S TRY
GOING UP TO MARKHAM AND
TALKING TO KAY.
HI KAY.

Kay says HI.
MY QUESTION IS I FEED THE
BIRDS YEAR-ROUND.
MY HUSBAND MADE A HUGE BIRD
CAGE, YOU KNOW, ESPECIALLY
FOR THE WINTERTIME, THE
BIRDS WOULD GO INSIDE AND
EAT.
BUT RECENTLY I SAW SOME
FIELD MICE, YOU KNOW, SIGNED
THE BIRD CAGES.
SO EVENTUALLY THEY TRY TO
COME INSIDE THE HOUSE.
SO COULD YOU PLEASE TELL ME
IF THERE IS ANY SOLUTION FOR
ME TO KEEP FEEDING THE
BIRDS?

Dan says AND PREVENT
RODENTS FROM GETTING UP INTO
THE FEEDER?
IS THAT THE QUESTION?

Kay says YEAH.

Dan says YES.
WELL, YES THERE IS A SIMPLE
ONE.
AND I'VE -- I'VE BATTLED THE
GREY SQUIRRELS AT KORTRIGHT
FOR YEARS, NOT THAT I'M
OPPOSED TO THEM, BUT IF I
WAS FEEDING THE SQUIRREL,
I'D BE SPENDING THREE TYPES
AS MUCH MONEY.

Kevin says YEAH.

Dan says AND THE
SIMPLEST TECHNIQUE I CAN
SUGGEST IS PUTTING A FEEDER
ON ITS OWN POST, LIKE NOT
HANGING IT FROM A TREE OR
FROM THE EVES OF YOUR HOUSE,
PUT IT ON ITS OWN POST, WELL
AWAY FROM ANYTHING A RODENT
CAN JUMP FROM, ESPECIALLY A
SQUIRREL.
LIKE YOUR HOUSE OR YOUR
GARAGE, OR A TREE.
AND THEN PUT -- I USE JUST
METAL BUCKETS HUNG
UPSIDEDOWN ON THE POST, AND
IT'S SORT OF A SQUIRREL BAFFLER.

Kevin says JUST TO PREVENT THEM
FROM GETTING UP THERE.

Dan says IF YOU DON'T
WANT TO MAKE YOUR OWN,
THEY'RE AVAILABLE AT
SPECIALTY BIRD WATCHING AND
BIRD FEEDING STORES AND
THINGS LIKE THAT THEY'RE
OFTEN CALLED SQUIRREL
BAFFLES AND THINGS AND
THAT'LL KEEP THE LITTLE
RODENTS OUT OF YOUR
BIRDFEEDER.

Kevin says GOOD LUCK, KAY.
KEEP THOSE SQUIRRELS AWAY.
RIGHT NOW LET'S GET BACK TO
MARY LEE IN CASH
LAKE.
HI MARY LEE.

Mary Lee says HI, KEVIN.
HOW ARE YOU?

Kevin says GOOD.
WHAT'S YOUR QUESTION FOR
DAN?

Mary Lee says DAN, LAST SPRING,
ABOUT FIVE O'CLOCK IN THE
AFTERNOON -- WE LIVE ABOUT
TEN FEET FROM THE LAKE AND
WE WERE LOOKING OUT OUR
KITCHEN WINDOW AND THERE WAS
A PAIR OF SWANS SWIMMING
BACK AND FORTH FOR ABOUT 20
MINUTES, AND THEN THEY FLEW
AWAY.

Dan says YES.

Mary Lee says NOW ARE WE GOING
TO GET THOSE BACK AGAIN?
WHERE DO THEY COME FROM.

Dan says OKAY, EXCUSE
MY IGNORANCE.
WHERE'S CASHEY LAKE.

Mary Lee says SORRY, SOUTH OF
GRAVENHURST, NORTH OF
ORILLIA.

Dan says WELL, I'M
GOING TO SHOW YOU.
THERE'S THREE SPECIES OF
SWANS THAT WE COULD
ENCOUNTER IN ONTARIO.
ONE'S THE FARROW OR
INTRODUCED MUTE SWAN.
I'M GOING TO THROW YOU THE
THREE PICTURES.

He shows a picture of a white swan and a gray swan.

Dan says OKAY, THE ONE ON THE BOTTOM
IS THE MUTE SWAN.
AND IT'S A EUROPEAN SPECIES,
AND WE SEE IT COMMONLY ON
THE TORONTO WATERFRONT AND
IT'S NATURALIZED IN MANY
AREAS.
IT'S BREEDING AND IT'S IN
SORT OF A WILD POPULATION
NOW.
WE HAVE TWO OTHER SPECIES.
WE HAVE THE TUNDRA SWAN.
I CAN'T READ-THAT'S THAT
ONE.
AND THEN THE TRUMPETER SWAN.
THE TUNDRA -- OH, OKAY.
THE TUNDRA SWAN IS A SWAN
THAT'S MIGRATORY THROUGH THE
PROVINCE, AND WHERE YOU LIVE,
THAT'D BE A KIND OF AN
EASTERN CITING FOR IT THEY
GO THROUGH IN BIG NUMBERS
DOWN LONGPOINT WAY, LAKE
St. CLAIRE, GOING IN A SORT
OF A SOUTHEAST AND NORTHWEST
DIRECTION, UP INTO THE
TUNDRA TO BREED.
THE TRUMPETER SWAN IS A
WESTERN SPECIES, BUT EFFORTS
ARE UNDERWAY TO REINTRODUCE
IT.
IT'S THOUGHT TO HAVE BEEN A
RESIDENT SWAN IN SOUTHERN
ONTARIO, AND OVER THE LAST
NUMBER OF YEARS THERE'S BEEN
A REINTRODUCTION PROGRAMME
OF IT INTO THE PROVINCE.
SO IF IT'S A MUTE SWAN, YOU
MIGHT SEE IT AGAIN AND IT
MIGHT NEST THERE, BUT
CHANCES ARE PROBABLY NOT.
THE TUNDRA SWAN WAS JUST
MOVING THROUGH, AND YOU WERE
JUST LUCKY TO SEE AN
OFF-SHOOT OF THE MIGRATION
NORTH, AND THEN THE
TRUMPETER SWAN -- UH, THAT'S
THE ONE THAT IF IT WAS A
PAIR OF TRUMPETERS, YOU'VE
GOT SOME GOOD WETLANDS,
MARSH LANDS ASSOCIATED IN
THE LAKE AND THEY'VE ENJOYED
IT THERE, THEY MIGHT BE
BACK.
BUT CHANCES ARE NO, YOU
PROBABLY SAW THE OFF-SHOOT
OF THE TUNDRA SWANS AND THEY
WERE JUST MOVING THROUGH.

Kevin says BEST TO KEEP YOUR
FINGERS CROSSED, MARY LEE.
I THINK THAT'S WHAT DAN'S
TRYING TO TELL YOU.
THANKS SO MUCH FOR YOUR
CALL.
RIGHT NOW WE HAVE A LITTLE
BUDDY OF OURS, BRANDON IN
LONDON.
HI BRANDON.
IS BRANDON THERE?
HELLO, BRANDON.

Brandon says YES?

Kevin says HI, HOW ARE YOU?

Brandon says I SAW, UM, CROWS
TAKING TWIGS -- BREAKING
TWIGS OFF TREES.

Dan says YUP.

Kevin says CROWS BREAKING
TWIGS OFF TREES.
WHY ARE THE CROWS BREAKING
THOSE TREE TWIGS.

Dan says WELL BRANDON,
I'LL ASK YOU WHAT DO YOU
THINK THEY WERE DOING?

Brandon says I DON'T KNOW.

Dan says OKAY.
WELL THEY WERE GETTING
MATERIAL TO BUILD THEIR NEST
SO THEY WILL BUILD A VERY
BIG SLOPPY STICK NEST HIGH
UP IN A TREE AND THEY'RE
BREAKING THOSE OFF AND
FLYING AWAY TO THE SITE.
AND IF YOU SEE THEM DOING IT
AGAIN, JUST WATCH IN WHAT
DIRECTION THEY'RE FLYING TO
AND YOU MIGHT BE ABLE TO GO
AND SEE WHERE THEY'RE
NESTING.
AND THEY NEST VERY EARLY.

Kevin says THEY'RE NORMALLY
DOING THE TWIG-BREAKING
CLOSE TO WHERE THEY'RE
BUILDING THE NEST?

Dan says RELATIVELY
CLOSE.
THEY COULD FLY 500, A
THOUSAND METRES, PERHAPS,
BUT USUALLY THEY'LL FLY IN A
FAIRLY STRAIGHT LINE TO THAT
SITE AND YOU CAN FIND OUT
WHERE THEY'RE BUILDING THEIR
NEST.

Kevin says GREAT.
THANKS BRANDON OF KEEP UP
THE BIRD WATCHING.
NOW TO THE E-MAIL, WE HAVE A
QUESTION ABOUT SAND PIPERS.
WHICH OF THE SAND PIPER-LIKE
BIRDS DO THE BROKEN WING
TRICK?
I'M ASKING BECAUSE A LONG
TIME AGO I WAS WALKING TO
WORK ALONG A GRAVEL SHOULDER
NEAR GUELPH AND WAS
DISTRACTED FROM STEPPING
INTO A SAND PIPER NEST BY A
BIRD DRAGGING ITS WING IN
THIS CLASSIC TRICK.
A HURRY.

Dan says WELL IN THAT
CASE YOU WOULD HAVE SEEN A
SHOREBIRD CALLED THE
KILLDEER AND LOTS OF THE
SHOREBIRDS DO IT.

Kevin says WHAT IS THE BROKEN
WING TRICK?

Dan says THEY ARE
TRYING TO DRAW YOU AWAY FROM
THEIR NEST SIGHT SO, WHAT
THEY ARE DOING IS SHOWING
YOU THAT THEY'RE INJURED,
I'M EASY PRAY, WHY
DON'T YOU COME AND FOLLOW ME
AND THEY'LL LEAD YOU AWAY,
AND WHEN THEY'RE COMFORTABLE
WITH THAT DISTANCE THAT YOU
ARE FROM THE NEST, THEN
THEY'LL FLY AWAY AND LAUGH
AT YOU --

Kevin says THEY'LL DO IT
PRIMARILY WITH OTHER ANIMAL,
BUT I GUESS WITH HUMANS AS
WELL.

Dan says EXACTLY.

Kevin says WOW!
OKAY AND YOU'RE GOING TO SEE
IF WE CAN'T FIND THE PICTURE
OF THE SAND PIPER.

Dan says I SHOULD
HAVE THE KILLDEER -- IT'S
ACTUALLY A MEMBER OF THE
PLOVER FAMILY.
THERE IT IS RIGHT THERE.

Dan shows a picture of a bird with brown feathers on the back, white chest and striped black and white neck.

He says AND THAT'S -- WHERE YOU'RE
LOCATED, WE DON'T HAVE A LOT
OF SHOREBIRDS THAT NEST IN
SOUTHERN ONTARIO, ONLY A
COUPLE.
AND THE LOCATION OF THE
GRAVELLY SHOULDER, THAT
WOULD BE PROBABLY THE
KILLDEER, NO DOUBT.
AND YEAH, MOST IF NOT ALL
SHOREBIRDS WOULD DO THAT, AS
WELL AS EVEN SOME SPECIES OF
DUCK ALSO DO A SORT OF AN
INJURY ROUTINE TO GET YOU
AWAY OVER WATER AND STUFF
LIKE THAT.

Kevin says REALLY?

Dan says YEAH.

Kevin says SOUNDS LIKE THE
PERFECT DEFENCE MECHANISM.
I'M GOING TO HAVE TO TRY
THAT THE NEXT TIME I NEED A
DAY OFF WORK.
(LAUGHING)
WE'RE GOING TO FOREST RIGHT
NOW IN BOWMAN VILLE.
HI FORREST.

Forrest says HI THERE.

Kevin says WHAT'S YOUR
QUESTION FOR DAN?

Forrest says IT'S REGARDING,
UH, A FALCON.

Kevin says OKAY.

Forrest says AND WE'VE HAD
QUITE A FEW OF THE VARIOUS
HAWKS THROUGH HERE THIS PAST
WINTER.
BUT YESTERDAY THIS ONE FLEW
INTO OUR BIG WHITE SPIREA
BUSH AFTER A SMALL BIRD, A
SPARROW OR SOMETHING.
THE SPARROW FLEW STRAIGHT
THROUGH, AND THE HAWK OR
FALCON SLAMMED INTO THE BUSH
AND THEN GOT ITSELF OUT,
WENT ACROSS THE ROAD AND SAT
FOR OVER AN HOUR IN A BIG
TREE, BUT --

Dan says IT WAS KIND
OF SHAKEN UP.

Forrest says BADLY SHAKEN UP,
BUT IT WAS QUITE NOTICEABLY
SLATE GREY, BACK OF THE
WINGS, TAIL.

Dan says ALL RIGHT.
DID YOU SEE THE BREAST BY
ANY CHANCE?

Forrest says THAT'S WHAT
CONFUSES ME, BECAUSE I
COULDN'T SEE IT STRAIGHT ON,
I COULD ONLY SEE IT FROM THE
SIDE.

Dan says MM-HMM.

Forrest says AND IT JUST
SEEMED -- IT HAD NO BARRED
MARKINGS OF ANY KIND.
IT WAS JUST A VERY LIGHT
GREYISH OFF-WHITE COLOUR.

Dan says OKAY.
WELL... THERE'S ONE GROUP OF
HAWKS AND THE FALCONS THAT
ARE BIRD HUNTERS.
EXIPITORS, WHICH ARE THE
HAWKS AND THAT INCLUDES THE
SHARP SHINNED, COOPER'S HAWK
AND NORTHERN GOSHAWK.
AND THEN FALCONS.
BUT THE SLATE GREY COLOUR OF
THE BACK SUGGESTS TO ME THAT
IT MIGHT HAVE BEEN ONE OF
THE EXIPITORS, AN ADULT
EXIPITOR, EITHER A
COOPER'S -- WAS IT A SMALL
HAWK OR FALCON?
LIKE I'M THINKING WAS IT THE
BODY SIZE OF A PIGEON, BODY
SIZE OF A CROW?

Forrest says I WOULD SAY IT
WAS CLOSER TO THE DOVE THAN
THE CROW.

Dan says OKAY.
ALL RIGHT.

Dan shows a picture of a sharp shinned hawk.

Dan says NOW THIS PICTURE, AND
REALIZE THAT IT IS ARTWORK
AND THEY'RE TRYING TO SHOW
FEATURES FOR IDENTIFICATION
PURPOSES, BUT THIS LITTLE
GUY UP HERE, THE SHARP
SHINNED HAS A SLATE GREY
BACK.
YOU WOULDN'T SEE THE REDDISH
BARRING NECESSARILY, BUT YOU
WOULD PERHAPS SEE JUST A
COLOURATION OF JUST LIKE
LIGHT RUSTY COLOUR, PERHAPS,
IF IT WAS THE ADULT.
NOW THAT WOULD BE MY FIRST
GUESS, BECAUSE AGAIN ALL OF
THESE BIRDS OF PREY ARE
COMING BACK, SO THE SHARP
SHINNED WOULD BE ABOUT THE
DOVE SIZE, ALMOST IDENTICAL
RELATIVE THAT'S BIGGER, AND
YOU'RE ALMOST GETTING CROW
SIZED, SORT OF, MAYBE A
LITTLE SMALLER.
BUT THAT WOULD BE THE
COOPER'S HAWK.
THE GOSHAWK IS A BIG, BIG
BIRD OF PREY.

Kevin says NO CONFUSING THAT?

Dan says YEAH.
AND THEN IF A FALCON, IT
COULD HAVE BEEN A MERLIN.
A MERLIN, OR THE PEREGRINE
IS A FAIR-SIZED BIRD.

Kevin says WHAT'S THE EASIEST
WAY TO TELL A DIFFERENCE
BETWEEN A FALCON AND A HAWK?

Dan says IN FLAPPING
FLIGHT, THE HAWKS WILL HAVE
ROUNDED WINGS.
LIKE THE ENDS OF THE
WINGS WILL BE ROUNDED.
THE FALCONS ALL WILL SHOW A
VERY POINTED WING, LIKE A,
LIKE A GULL, FOR EXAMPLE.
LIKE THAT POINTED A WING.

Kevin says SO IF YOU'RE NOT
CLOSE ENOUGH TO SEE THE
MARKINGS, YOU COULD AT LEAST
GO OFF WHAT TYPES OF WING
YOU'RE LOOKING AT.

Dan says YEAH.

Kevin says THANKS FOREST.
LET'S GO TO CATHERINE IN
WATERDOWN.
HI THERE.

Catherine says HI KEVIN.
HOW 'YA DOIN'?

Kevin says GOOD.
WHAT'S YOUR QUESTION FOR
DAN.

Catherine says OKAY.
I'VE GOT A COUPLE OF THEM.
ONE WAS ABOUT THE MORNING
DOVE.
WE NOTICED SOME GETTING VERY
SICK IN OUR NEIGHBOURHOOD
LAST SUMMER.
THEY WERE KIND OF FROTHING
AT THE MOUTH --

Dan says OH.

Catherine says YEAH.
AND NOT FLYING AWAY AND
EVENTUALLY WE WOULD FIND
THEM DEAD.
AND A FEW OF US IN THE
NEIGHBOURHOOD HAD NOTICED
THIS.
WE'RE PRETTY CAREFUL ABOUT
CLEANING OUR BIRDFEEDERS.
I'M JUST WONDERING, YOU KNOW,
IS THIS SOMETHING TO DO WITH
LAWN FERTILIZER OR --

Dan says WELL, I
CAN'T REALLY GIVE A
DEFINITIVE ANSWER.
THAT'S REALLY UNFORTUNATE.
YOU'RE CLEANING YOUR FEEDER.
THERE MIGHT BE ONE OF YOUR
NEIGHBOURS THAT DOESN'T AND
ISN'T LOOKING AFTER THEIR
SITE NEARLY AS WELL.
SO THAT MIGHT BE A PROBLEM.
AND THE OTHER ONE THAT I'M
NOT THAT KNOWLEDGEABLE ABOUT,
SO I MIGHT NOT -- I MAYBE
SHOULDN'T MENTION IT, BUT
THERE IS A CONTROL METHOD
FOR DOMESTIC -- THE ROT DOVE,
THE FARRELL PIGEON THAT IS
USED FAIRLY COMMONLY
THROUGHOUT THE CITY.
AND IT'S A BAIT, IF YOU WILL,
THAT COULD CAUSE SICKNESS
AND IT DOESN'T NECESSARILY
CAUSE DEATH, BUT PERHAPS THE
MORNING DOVES, WHICH ARE
VERY CLOSELY RELATED TO THE
OTHER PIGEONS, IT MIGHT BE
FINDING A SITE WHERE THAT
CONTROL METHOD FOR PIGEONS
IS BEING USED AND THEY MAY
BE INGESTING THAT STUFF AND
HAVING SOME PROBLEMS WITH IT,
TOO.
BUT AGAIN, I DON'T KNOW THAT
FOR A FACT.

Kevin says SURE.

Dan says BUT IT'S
PROBABLY, AS YOU'VE
OBVIOUSLY COME TO THE
CONCLUSION, IT'S PROBABLY A
FOOD-RELATED PROBLEM.
SOMEBODY'S NOT LOOKING AFTER
A FEEDER IN YOUR
NEIGHBOURHOOD VERY WELL OR
THERE IS MAYBE THIS CONTROL
PRACTICE FOR THE ROCK DOVE
THAT THE DOVES ARE HAVING
TROUBLE WITH.

Catherine says MAYBE, MAYBE.
THANKS.

Kevin says THANKS A LOT.
HOPE YOU FIND OUT WHAT'S
HURTING THE MORNING DOVES.
WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT
CONTROL METHODS, ARE THE
BIRDS SMART ENOUGH TO --
I'LL JUST USE THE PHRASE
“GET THE HINT” AND THEN FLY
ELSEWHERE?
HOW DO YOU KNOW THAT THEY'RE
BEING SUCCESSFUL, OTHER THAN
I GUESS FINDING DEAD BIRDS?

Dan says WELL, THE
UNFORTUNATE THING WITH THOSE
CONTROL METHODS, LIKE
ESPECIALLY FOR PIGEONS,
IS -- LIKE I HAVE NO
PROBLEMS WITH DETERRING THEM.
LIKE USING DETERRENTS AT
ROOST SITES THAT WON'T ALLOW
THEM TO LAND.

Kevin says WE TALKED ABOUT
THE BARBED WIRE BEFORE.

Dan says BUT THAT
JUST PUSHES THE PROBLEM
SOMEWHERE ELSE.

Kevin says YEAH.

Dan says THIS BAITING
IS A BIT OF A CONCERN
BECAUSE, FOR EXAMPLE, WE'VE
BEEN TALKING ABOUT THE
PEREGRINE FALCON, AND THEY
FEED HEAVILY ON PIGEONS IN
THE URBAN ENVIRONMENT, AND
THAT MIGHT, MIGHT HAVE SOME
ADVERSE EFFECTS ON THEIR SAY
BREEDING SUCCESS.

Kevin says IF THE FALCON EATS
THE PIGEON AND THE PIGEON'S
POISONED THEN IT'S GOING TO
AFFECT THE FALCON.

Dan says SO I'M NOT A
BIG FAN OF BAITING WITH SOME
KIND OF A POISON, OR A FOOD
ITEM THAT CAUSES UNUSUAL
BEHAVIOUR THAT MIGHT
DRIVE -- THAT'S ONE OF THE
THINGS THAT THIS PIGEON
BAITING MIGHT DO, IS IT
CAUSES SOME WEIRD BEHAVIOUR
IN THOSE THAT HAVE INGESTED
IT AND MAY SCARE OTHER
PIGEONS AWAY BECAUSE IT'S
BEING KIND OF STRANGE.

Kevin says OKAY.
OKAY.
WE HAVE AN INTERESTING
E-MAIL HERE.
LET ME READ IT TO YOU, SEE
YOU WHAT THINK OF IT IT'S
FROM RUSS WHO LIVES IN
SOUTHERN ONTARIO.
“I HAVE A SMALL SUNFISH IN
MY LANDLOCKED POND.
I ALSO HAVE A REGULAR BLUE
HERON THAT VISITS, AND A
FRIEND TOLD ME THAT THE
HERON BRINGS IN THE SUN
FISH.
IS THIS POSSIBLE?
AND WHY ARE THEY DOING THIS?
STOCKPILING?”

Dan says I WOULD --
MMM.
I WOULD SAY NO.

Kevin says OKAY.
SO THE HERON ISN'T
BRINGING --

Dan says IT'S NOT
DOING IT FOR ANY
PARTICULAR -- LIKE, THIS IS
A DEBATE THAT'S BEEN GOING
ON IN THE SCIENTIFIC
COMMUNITY FOR A LONG TIME.
YOU'VE GOT A, WHAT APPEARS
TO BE A LAND LOCKED BODY OF
WATER, AND AMAZINGLY FISH
SHOW UP THERE.
THERE IS THE POTENTIAL THAT
BIRDS CAN CARRY SAY EGGS,
LIKE WHEN THE BLUE HERON'S
WADING AROUND IN THE SHALLOW
WATERS.
SUNFISH DO SPAWN IN VERY
SHALLOW WATER SO THERE IS A
CHANCE, I SUPPOSE THAT
FERTILIZED EGGS CAN STICK ON
A HERON'S LEG, MAYBE, AND
THEN WHEN THEY'RE WADING
AROUND ANOTHER POND THEY
WASH OFF.
BUT THEY CERTAINLY DON'T
PICK UP AN ADULT FISH AND
CARRY IT AWAY.
THERE'S MORE OF A CHANCE,
BELIEVE IT OR NOT, THAT
WEATHER EVENTS CAN DROP FISH
INTO --

Kevin says REALLY?
MINI TORNADOES OR --

Dan says YES, YEAH.
THOSE ARE ALL DOCUMENTED
SITUATIONS WHERE FISH HAVE
RAINED OUT OF THE SKY AND
STUFF LIKE THAT.

Kevin says SO RUSS HAS EITHER
BEEN VISITED BY A TORNADO
AND DIDN'T KNOW IT OR MAYBE
THIS IS JUST A COINCIDENCE.

Dan says YES.

Kevin says GOOD E-MAIL.
INTERESTING.
RIGHT NOW LET'S TALK TO BILL
IN TORONTO.
HELLO, BILL.
BILL, ARE YOU THERE?

Bill says HELLO?

Kevin says HI BILL.

Bill says HI.
TWO QUESTIONS.
THE FIRST ONE IS SORT OF A
HOUSEKEEPING QUESTION.
I HAVE DUCKWORTH RUNNING
FROM MY STOVE, I PUT IN A
RANGE HOOD, INSTALLED THE
PLASTIC FLAP ON THE OUTSIDE
WHICH HAS SINCE OF COURSE
DISAPPEARED.
EARLY IN THE YEAR, I DON'T
KNOW, PROBABLY FEBRUARY OR
EARLY MARCH I HEARD STARLINGS,
AND YOU KNOW, A NOISE ON THE
INSIDE.
AND I DIDN'T THINK ANYTHING
OF IT SORT OF THOUGHT I WAS
HEARING THINGS.
AND THEN ABOUT THREE WEEKS
LATER I HEARD THE SOUNDS OF
BABIES --

Dan says BABIES, YES.

Bill says -- CHATTING AWAY.
AND I DON'T WANT TO OF
COURSE MURDER THEM OR
ANYTHING LIKE THAT BUT WHAT
I WAS WONDERING IS WHEN DO
YOU THINK THEY WOULD REACH
MATURITY ENOUGH THAT THEY
WOULD BE LEAVING?
BECAUSE I HAVEN'T SEEN ANY
JUVENILES AROUND.
AND IF SO, I REALIZE THAT
STARLINGS ARE VERY, VERY
PROLIFIC.
HOW LONG WOULD I HAVE IN
WHAT SORT OF A WINDOW WOULD
I HAVE WHERE I COULD GET
THERE AND DE-NEST IT AND PUT
A MESH OR THE FLAP BACK ON?

Dan says RIGHT.
WELL THAT'S WHAT YOU WILL
WANT TO DO AFTERWARDS.
IN A GENERAL SENSE,
SONGBIRDS THAT SIZE AND
THINGS WILL INCUBATE FOR --
LIKE, STARTING -- WHEN THEY
START INCUBATING THE CLUTCH
IT MIGHT BE 18 TO 20 DAYS OF
INCUBATION.
AND THEN THE EGGS HATCH AND
THERE'S GOING TO BE ANOTHER
16 TO 20 DAYS OF BROODING
AND REARING IN THE NEST SO
YOU'RE LOOKING AT A MONTH.
A MONTH AND MAYBE A LITTLE
LONGER THAN A MONTH BEFORE
THE BABIES WILL LEAVE THE
NEST.

Kevin says AND THEN DOES BILL
HAVE TO FIND SOME SORT OF
WAY OF KEEPING THEM OUT?
IS IT FAIR TO THINK THAT
BECAUSE ONE SET OF STARLINGS
NESTED THERE --

Dan says OH,
ABSOLUTELY.

Kevin says THEY'LL CONTINUE
TO COME BACK UNTIL BILL CAN
KIND OF COVER THAT UP?

Dan says OH,
ABSOLUTELY.
IT SOUNDS LIKE PERFECT DUCT
WORK.

Dan says.

Kevin says AND BILL HAD A
SECOND QUESTION.

Bill says OKAY, THE SECOND
QUESTION IS WOULD I BE RIGHT
IN ASSUMING THAT I HAVE OR I
HAVE SEEN REALLY EARLY IN
THE YEAR -- I LIVE IN SORT
OF CENTRAL TORONTO, SCARLET
TANANGERS?

Dan says NO.

Kevin says IT'S JUST THAT
THERE ARE ONLY --.

Bill says IT'S JUST THAT I
THOUGHT THERE ARE ONLY TWO
RED BIRDS THAT WOULD BE
CLOSE TO THAT IT'S VERY
CLEARLY A RED BIRD WITH
BLACK MARKINGS ON IT THAT IS
DEFINITELY, DEFINITELY NOT A
CARDINAL!

Dan says I WOULD SAY
NO.
THE UNUSUAL BIRD THAT
SOMETIMES -- AND IT'S AN ODD
ONE, BECAUSE WE -- AND IF
THERE WERE SCARLET TANANGERS
WINTERING BY SOME STRANGE
COINCIDENCE IN THE CITY,
THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN A
HOTLINE SITUATION THAT
WOULD -- LIKE PEOPLE WOULD
HAVE HEARD ABOUT.
AND EVEN -- THE OTHER ONE
THAT I'M THINKING OF, WHICH
IS A TANANGER, AND ODDLY
ENOUGH FOR SOME REASON CAN
WINTER, BUT IT HAS NO BLACK
MARKINGS, BUT I DIDN'T HEAR
OF ANY THIS WINTER, CAN BE
THE SUMMER TANANGER CAN
BELIEVE IT OR NOT, VERY RARE
BIRD IN ONTARIO, BUT IT HAS
BEEN KNOWN TO HANG AROUND
SOME FEEDERS AND MANAGE THE
WINTER.

Dan shows a picture of the summer tanager.

Dan says BUT IT'S COMPLETELY RED.
AND THE SCARLET TANANGER --
IT'S A NEO-TROPICAL MIGRANT.
IT GOES TO SOUTH AMERICA
AND SOUTHERN CENTRAL
AMERICA.
SO THE CHANCES OF YOU SEEING
THAT -- NOW THE ONLY OTHER
SUGGESTION I CAN MAKE IS A
BIT OF A COLOUR VARIATION IN
A MALE CARDINAL.
I DON'T MEAN TO INSULT YOUR
OBSERVATION SKILLS, BUT RED
BIRDS AREN'T A COMMON THING,
ESPECIALLY IN THE
WINTERTIME.

Kevin says HOPEFULLY THAT
HELPS BILL OUT A BIT AND
JUST TO PROVE TO YOU THE
LINES OF COMMUNICATION ARE
WORKING HERE AT “MORE TO
LIFE” WE ACTUALLY ARE GOING
TO THROW BACK TO THE CASHEY
LAKE QUESTION ABOUT THE
SWANS.
WE HAVE AN E-MAIL FROM BILL
GRINLY ON SPARROW LAKE,
WHICH IS VERY CLOAK TO
CASHEY LAKE.
THE SWANS SEEN LAST STRING
AT CASHEY LAKE WERE
TRUMPETER SWANS.
THE SAME PAIR WERE ON OUR
BEACH FOR ABOUT ONE WEEK.
WE REPORTED THE SIGHTING TO
THE WY MARSH CONSERVATION
AREA AND THEY DISPATCHED A
COUPLE OF STAFF TO VIEW AND
CONFIRM THE TYPE OF SWANS
THEY WERE.
THEY SAID THEY WERE AN
IMMATURE PAIR OF TRUMPETERS
BUT NOTICED THAT THEY WERE
NOT TAGGED.

Dan says OKAY, GOOD.
ALL OF THE ADULTS THAT WERE
INVOLVED IN THE PROGRAMME
INITIALLY HAVE VERY
NOTICEABLE WING TAGS AND
THINGS THAT YOU CAN SEE BUT
THAT WAS, THAT WAS A
SUGGESTION THAT I WAS
CURIOUS ABOUT.
AND AGAIN, I DIDN'T -- IF IT
IS CLOSE TO SPARROW LAKE,
THEN YES.

Kevin says AND THIS IS
SOMETHING THAT BIRDERS DO.
THEY HELP EACH OTHER A LOT.
THERE'S A LOT OF WEBSITES.
WE'LL ACTUALLY GIVE YOU A
NUMBER COMING UP TO THE END
OF THE SHOW BUT THERE'S
REALLY I GUESS A GREAT
DIALOGUE THAT HAPPENS
BETWEEN THEM ABOUT DIFFERENT
BIRDS THAT ARE SPOTTED
AROUND.
WE HAVE TIME FOR ONE MORE
CALL.
WE'RE GOING TO TRY AND MAKE
IT QUICK.
TAMMY FROM SOUTH RIVER.

Tammy says HI.

Kevin says WHAT'S YOUR
QUESTION?

Tammy says LAST SUMMER WE
HAD A LITTLE BLACKBIRD WITH
ORANGE SPOTS.
I LOOKED IT UP, IT WAS AN
AMERICAN REDSTART AND IT
NESTED BE SIDE OUR HOUSE.

Dan says VERY NICE.

Tammy says AND I WAS
WONDERING WHAT COMMON -- HOW
COMMON THAT WAS?

Dan says UP IN YOUR
NECK OF THE WOODS THEY WOULD
BE A FAIRLY COMMON RESIDENT.
THERE'S A GOOD CHANCE YOU
WILL SEE THEM AGAIN, AND IF
NOT RIGHT AT YOUR HOUSE,
THAT KIND OF HABITAT, THAT
SHRUBBY LOWER CANOPY GROWTH
IS WHERE THEY LIKE TO NEST.
AND YOU CAN WANDER AROUND
THE NEIGHBOURHOOD AND
PROBABLY FIND THEM QUITE
REGULARLY.
BEAUTIFUL LITTLE WARBLER.
YUP.

Tammy says THANK YOU.

Kevin says GREAT, THANKS
TAMMY FOR YOUR CALL.
SO IF THERE ARE PEOPLE OUT
THERE THAT ARE JUST GETTING
INTO BIRDING, WHEN IS THE
BEST TIME OF YEAR TO TAKE UP
THE HOBBY?

Dan says WELL THAT'S,
THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION.
WINTER IS A GOOD TIME IN THE
SENSE THAT JUST TO GET THE
FEEL FOR IT.
WE DON'T HAVE THAT MANY
BIRDS TO CONFUSE PEOPLE, SO
WE'RE GETTING OUT AND
PUTTING UP A BIRDFEEDER AND
GETTING TO KNOW THEM.
JUST TO GET THE FEEL FOR
WHAT KIND OF DIAGNOSTIC
IDENTIFICATION FEATURES YOU
START LOOKING FOR AT, LIKE
WITH BIRDS.
AND THEN THE SPRING
MIGRATION THROUGH SOUTHERN
ONTARIO IS PHENOMENAL, AND
THAT WILL PROBABLY BE THE
TIME WHEN A NOVICE BIRD
WATCHER WILL REALLY GET
HOOKED ON IT WHEN THEY'RE
SEEING THE WONDERFUL GROUP
OF BIRDS, ALL SORTS OF BIRDS
COMING BACK.

Kevin says AND I GUESS IF
THERE'S ONE THING THE NOVICE
COULD DO, GRAB A GOOD
RESOURCE BOOK TO REFER
TO SO IT CAN HELP YOU OUT?

He grabs Dan’s book.

Dan says GOT TO HAVE
A GOOD FIELD GUIDE AND HALF
DECENT PAIR OF BINOCULARS
AND YOU'RE SET.

Kevin says THANKS FOR TALKING
BIRDS WITH US TODAY.
ORNITHOLOGY WITH OUR FRIEND
DAN STUCKEY, A NATURALIST
WITH THE KORTRIGHT CENTRE
FOR CONSERVATION IN KLEINBURG.
FOR MORE INFORMATION ON
BIRDS OR BIRDING YOU CAN
CALL THE KORTRIGHT CENTRE
YOURSELVES AT: 905 832-2289 OR
VISIT THE WEBSITE AT WWW.KORTRIGHT.ORG
AND ANOTHER GREAT WEBSITE IS THE ONTARIO
BIRDING HOMEPAGE. THAT’S
WWW.WEB-NAT.COM/BIC/ONT OR YOU CAN REACH
THE METRO REGION BIRDING LINE AT AREAL
CODE 416 350-3000 EXTENSION 2293
THAT’S ALL THE TIME WE HAVE TODAY.
I’M KEVIN BROSCH. JOIN MAUREEN
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