Transcript: Fourth Reading - the 2nd annual Fourth Reading trivia quiz | Dec 23, 2001

The opening sequence rolls.

Music plays as clips of politicians and demonstrations appear on an animated number 4.

Steve says THIS
WEEK ON 4th READING.
FOR POLITICAL JUNKIES
ONLY, THE SECOND ANNUAL
TRIVIA QUIZ.

(music plays)

A slate appears with the caption “Second Annual Trivia Quiz”

Steve, Richard, Mac, and Ruth sit at a table in the shape of a number 4. A logo on screen reads "4th reading."

Steve is in his early forties, clean-shaven, with short curly brown hair. He's wearing a gray blazer over a black polo T-shirt.

Richard is in his fifties, clean-shaven and with short wavy gray hair. He wears a blue suit, a green shirt and a printed tie.

Mac is in his fifties, clean-shaven and with very short white hair. He wears a black suit, black shirt and printed tie.

Ruth is in her mid-sixties, with short straight white hair. She wears a polka dotted red blouse, a gray blazer and a brooch.

Each panellist hold a different party accessory: Mac holds a tambourine, Richard holds a maraca, and Ruth holds a handle castanet.

Steve says GOOD AFTERNOON, EVERYBODY;
I'M STEVE PAIKIN.
AND THIS IS 4TH...
THIS IS 4TH READING.

The panellists make noises with their accessories.

Steve says YES, THANK YOU,
ONE POINT FOR ME.
LAST YEAR IN OUR
FINAL PROGRAM OF 2000,
WE DID SOMETHING A
LITTLE DIFFERENT,
AND THE RESPONSE WAS SO
OVERWHELMING WE THOUGHT,
WHAT THE HECK, LET'S
START A TRADITION.
RIGHT, SO THIS YEAR IN
OUR FINAL SHOW OF 2001,
WE PRESENT THE SECOND ANNUAL
4TH READING TRIVIA QUIZ.

[drum roll, cymbal crash]

Steve says YES, THAT'S RIGHT, FRIENDS,
WE'RE GOING TO TEST YOUR
KNOWLEDGE OF ONTARIO
POLITICAL HISTORY.
THERE IS SOME, YES.
IF YOU'RE A REGULAR
WATCHER OF THIS PROGRAM,
YOU WILL NO DOUBT BE
TOP DRAWER AT THIS.
AND TO PARTICIPATE
IN THE FESTIVITIES,
HERE ARE OUR QUEEN'S PARK
EXPERTS, GOOD SPORTS ALL.
THEY'LL HAVE TO BE BECAUSE
THEY'RE ABOUT TO BE
EMBARRASSED.
THERE'S RICHARD MAHONEY,
FROM THE LAW FIRM
FRASER MILNER
CASGRAIN, JOINING IN.
MAC PENNEY,
FROM GPC,
GOVERNMENT POLICY
CONSULTANTS.
FORMER NDP CABINET
MINISTER RUTH GRIER.

Ruth says UNEMBARRASSABLE.

Steve says UNEMBARRASSABLE,
THANK GOODNESS.
AND THIS YEAR'S GUEST
CONTESTANT, RICK GREEN,
FORMER HOST OF THE TVO
PROGRAM PRISONERS OF GRAVITY,
CO-CREATOR OF THE
RED GREEN SHOW,
HOST AND CREATOR
OF HISTORY BITES...

Rick is in his late forties, clean-shaven and with short wavy white hair. He wears glasses, a striped gray suit, a gray shirt and a polka dotted burgundy tie. He holds a bell.

Rick says I CAME IN HERE
TO MAKE A PLEDGE.
[laughing]
I WAS JUST GOING TO SUPPORT
TELEVISION THAT MATTERS.

Steve says WE PLEDGE TO MAKE
YOU LOOK SILLY OVER THE NEXT
HALF AN HOUR.
KIDS, YOU ALL
KNOW THE RULES.

Richard says THE RULES?

Steve says THERE ARE RULES.

Richard says ANYTHING GOES.

Steve says ANYTHING GOES,
THAT'S IT, YES.
ONE POINT IF
YOU GET IT RIGHT.
WE ARE NOT TAKING POINTS
OFF IF YOU GET IT WRONG,
EXCEPT FOR MAC WHEN
HE GETS OBNOXIOUS.
THAT'S SOMETHING
TO KEEP IN MIND.

Richard says DISCRETION
OF THE HOST.

Steve says DISCRETION
OF THE HOST.

Ruth says YOU MEAN I'M NOT
GOING TO BE LAST AFTER ALL?

Steve says SUSANNA KELLEY, OUR
PRODUCER EXTRAORDINAIRE,
IS KEEPING SCORE IN
THE CONTROL ROOM.
AND WE WILL, FOR
THOSE OF YOU AT HOME,
IN CASE IT GETS A TAD NOISY
OUT HERE - WHICH IT MIGHT,
MISTER PENNEY...
WE'RE GOING TO RUN THE
ANSWERS TO THESE QUESTIONS
AT THE BOTTOM
OF THE PAGE.
OKAY, IS EVERYBODY
READY TO GO?

Mac says OH, YEAH.

Steve says AND REMEMBER,
LADIES AND GENTLEMEN,
THESE ARE ALL
AMATEURS AT THIS TABLE,
SO PLEASE, WE WARN YOU, NO
WAGERING, NO WAGERING.
THE TORIES, AS YOU ALL
KNOW, ARE IN THE MIDST OF
A LEADERSHIP RACE TO
REPLACE MIKE HARRIS.
AND WE WANT TO, THEREFORE,
ASK YOU SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT
LEADERSHIP
RACES OF THE PAST.
I'M GOING TO GIVE
YOU THE WINNER.
YOU HAVE TO GIVE ME THE
CANDIDATE THEY DEFEATED ON
THE FINAL BALLOT,
AND, FOR A BONUS POINT,
HOW MANY BALLOTS
DID THE CONTEST GO.
EVERYBODY GOT IT?
HERE WE GO.
LEADERSHIP
CONTEST NUMBER ONE,
WINNER LYN McLEOD.

Richard shakes his maraca.

Steve says YES, RICHARD.

Richard says UM...
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
THE FIVE BALLOTS
AND MURRAY ELSTON.

Steve says THAT IS CORRECT.
IT WAS, IN FACT,
MURRAY ELSTON.
AND IT DID GO FIVE BALLOTS,
THAT ENDED ONE O'CLOCK IN
THE MORNING,
IF I RECALL.
SECOND ONE,
WILLIAM DAVIS.
YES?

Richard says ALLAN LAWRENCE.

Steve says ALLAN
LAWRENCE IS CORRECT.

Richard says FOUR BALLOTS.

Steve says FOUR
BALLOTS, VERY GOOD!
I'M GOING TO GIVE THIS GUY
AN EXTRA POINT IF HE KNOWS
WHERE IT TOOK PLACE.

Ruth says BRAMPTON.

Steve says NO.

Richard says NO.
NO, NO, UH...

Steve says WHERE DID
IT TAKE PLACE?

Ruth says LONDON, ONTARIO.

Rick says IN A BUILDING!

Steve says CORRECT!
[cheering]

Richard says MAPLE
LEAF GARDENS.

Steve says MAPLE LEAF
GARDENS IS RIGHT.
[talking over each other]
THIRD LEADERSHIP
CONTEST.
HOWARD HAMPTON.
[maracas shaking]
RICHARD.

Richard says FRANCES LANKIN.

Steve says WAS WHO
HE DEFEATED, YES.

Richard says THREE BALLOTS.

Steve says THREE
BALLOTS IS CORRECT!
AND LET THE RECORD SAY THAT
RUTH GRIER PREDICTED
JUST BEFORE GOING INTO THAT
CONVENTION THAT IT WOULD BE
HAMPTON ON THE THIRD.
FOURTH LEADERSHIP CONTEST.

Mac says SHE WAS TALKING
ABOUT A HORSE RACE.
IS THAT RIGHT?
[laughing]

Steve says JOHN ROBARTS.
JOHN ROBARTS,
WHOM DID HE DEFEAT?
YES, RICHARD AGAIN.

Richard says TEMPLETON,
CHARLES TEMPLETON.

Steve says IS INCORRECT;
HE WAS A LIBERAL.
GO AHEAD, RICK.

Rick says CLEMENT ATTLEE.

Steve says CLEMENT
ATTLEE IS INCORRECT;
WRONG CONSERVATIVE PARTY.

Ruth says IT WASN'T
FRED CASS.
IT WAS - OH, I
KNOW WHO IT WAS.

Steve says I'LL GIVE
YOU A HINT.
THE GUY WAS
FROM TORONTO.
HE HAD A NAME VERY
SIMILAR TO THE WINNER.

Ruth says ROBERTS!
M. ROBERTS.
NO, IT WASN'T ED ROBERTS,
IT WAS, IT WAS...

Steve says WE'RE GOING
TO GIVE IT TO HER,
BECAUSE THE
ANSWER IS ROBERTS.
IT WAS KELSO ROBERTS.

Ruth says KELSO ROBERTS; I WAS
GOING TO SAY IT WAS A.G.

A caption reads “Kelso Roberts”

Steve says HOW MANY
BALLOTS DID IT GO?

Ruth says IT WENT FOUR.
TWO! ONE!

Steve says SIX - SIX BALLOTS
AT VARSITY ARENA.

Richard says YOU'LL NOTICE IF WE
WERE DEDICATED WATCHERS OF
TVO, WE'D HAVE WATCHED
STEVE PAIKIN'S...

Steve says THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
THE LAST LEADERSHIP
RACE: DALTON McGUINTY.
YES.

Richard says FIVE
BALLOTS, GERARD KENNEDY.

Steve says IS CORRECT.
AND WHERE WAS
THAT ONE HELD?

Richard says MAPLE LEAF GARDENS.

Steve says ALSO
MAPLE LEAFS GARDENS,
THAT'S RIGHT.
I'D JUST GIVE A LOT OF POINTS
TO RICHARD ON THAT ONE.
HE DID VERY WELL.

Ruth says YOU HAD MORE LIBERAL
CONTESTS IN THERE THAN...

Steve says WAIT A SECOND,
LET ME COUNT IT.
TWO TORIES, TWO LIBERALS,
ONE NEW DEMOCRAT.
ABOUT THE PROPER
RATIO, I WOULD THINK.

Mac says UNFAIR, UNFAIR!

Steve says QUESTION TWO: STILL
WITH THE CURRENT PC
LEADERSHIP RACE, HERE IS A
QUESTION ABOUT EACH CANDIDATE
IN ALPHABETICAL ORDER.
TONY CLEMENT QUESTION:
WHERE WAS HE BORN?
[bell dings]

Rick says HOSPITAL.

Steve says HOSPITAL IS...
[laughing]

Ruth says A HOSPITAL
NOW CLOSED.
[laughing]

Steve says RICK GETS A
POINT FOR THAT.
RUTH DEFINITELY GETS
A POINT FOR HUMOUR.
ANYBODY KNOW WHERE
HE WAS BORN?

Mac says OTTAWA.
NO.

Mac says ONTARIO.

Steve says MANCHESTER,
ENGLAND.

Mac says THAT WAS MY
NEXT GUESS.

Steve says HERE'S A QUESTION
ABOUT ERNIE EVES.
ERNIE, OF COURSE, WAS
FIRST ELECTED IN 1981,
20 YEARS AGO.
BY HOW MANY VOTES
DID HE WIN?

Mac says SIX.

Steve says MAC PENNEY IS CORRECT;
ERNIE WON BY SIX VOTES.
HE WON BY SIX VOTES, THEREBY
GAINING HIM THE NICKNAME...

Mac says LANDSLIDE EVES.

Steve says LANDSLIDE
ERNIE EVES, THAT'S RIGHT.

Ruth says WHERE WAS IT?
PARRY SOUND.
[laughing]
YOU DON'T GET
ANYTHING FOR THAT.

Rick says THERE WERE
ONLY 12 VOTES TOTAL,
SO IT DOESN'T SOUND SO
BAD NOW, DOES IT?

Steve says JIM FLAHERTY QUESTION.
HE SAYS HE IS THE CHOICE OF
THE NEXT GENERATION BECAUSE
HE HAS THE THREE YOUNGEST
MEMBERS OF THE TORY CAUCUS
SUPPORTING HIM.
WHO ARE THEY, MAC?

Mac says THAT'D BE BART
MAVES, TIM HUDAK,
AND MORLEY KELLS.
[laughing]

Ruth says SAMPSON.

The caption changes to “John Baird, Tim Hudak and Bart Maves.”

Steve says NO.
YOU GET TWO POINTS, ANYWAY.

Rick says IT'S THE TELETUBBIES,
IT'S TINKY WINKY...

Ruth says IT'S HIS
THREE TRIPLETS.

Steve says IT'S NOT HIS
THREE TRIPLETS.
NO, IT'S NOT
HIS TRIPLETS.
YOU SHOULD KNOW THIS; HE'S
FROM YOUR NECK OF THE WOODS.

Richard says JOHN BAIRD.

Steve says JOHN
BAIRD IS CORRECT.

Mac says NO, YOU DON'T GET A
POINT FOR THAT.

Mac says NO, HALF A
POINT, HALF A POINT -

Ruth says HE'S THE YOUNGEST
OLDEST MINISTER, ISN'T HE?

Richard says THAT'S RIGHT, HE'S
THE OLDEST YOUNGEST MINISTER.

Steve says HERE IS YOUR CHRIS
STOCKWELL QUESTION, EVERYBODY.
WHOM DID CHRIS DEFEAT IN THE
1990 ELECTION TO MOVE FROM
MUNICIPAL TO
PROVINCIAL POLITICS?
WHOM DID HE DEFEAT?
IT WAS A LIBERAL
MPP FROM ETOBICOKE.
YES?

Ruth says JIM HENDERSON.

Steve says INCORRECT.
OH, LINDA LeBOURDAIS.

Steve says HOW MANY GUESSES YOU
WANT AT THIS, RUTH?
[laughing]

Richard says LINDA LeBOURDAIS.

Steve says THAT IS CORRECT,
BUT WE'LL GIVE IT TO RUTH,
WE'LL GIVE IT TO RUTH.
YES, IT WAS
LINDA LeBOURDAIS.

Ruth says AS A MATTER OF FACT,
PART OF JIM HENDERSON'S
RIDING BECAME
PART OF
CHRIS'S.

Steve says PICKY, PICKY.
[Ruth laughing]

Rick says YOU ARE STILL
THE WEAKEST LINK.
[laughing]

Ruth says AND IN THIS GROUP,
PROUD OF IT.
[laughing]

Steve says HERE IS YOUR ELIZABETH
WITMER QUESTION.
ELIZABETH WITMER HAS
HAD THREE PORTFOLIOS.
WHAT ARE THEY?
YES, MAC?

Mac says LABOUR, HEALTH,
AND ENVIRONMENT.

Rick says HOMELAND DEFENSE.

The caption changes to “Labour, environment and health.”

Steve says IS CORRECT.
HOMELAND DEFENSE
IS NOT CORRECT.
NO, THAT IS NOT CORRECT.
YES, THAT IS CORRECT.
THREE POINTS FOR
MAC PENNEY ON THAT.
HERE'S THE BONUS QUESTION.
HERE'S THE BONUS
QUESTION HERE.
YOU ALL KNOW THAT EVERY
TIME YOU HAVE A LEADERSHIP
CAMPAIGN, YOU GOTTA
HAVE A THEME SONG.
LET'S SEE WHOSE THEME
SONG THIS IS; LISTEN.
(music plays)

The song “Waterloo” by Abba plays.

Mac says ELIZABETH WITMER.

Steve says MAC PENNEY?

Mac says WITMER.

Steve says ELIZABETH
WITMER IS CORRECT.
FOR A BONUS POINT, CAN
YOU TELL ME WHO THAT WAS?

Mac says ABBA.

Steve says IS CORRECT!
AND THE SONG IS?

Mac says "WATERLOO."

Steve says AND WHY IS
IT HER SONG?

Ruth says IT'S HER WATERLOO.
[laughing]

Steve says SHE IS FROM WATERLOO, AND
I DOUBT SHE THINKS THIS IS
ABOUT TO BE
HER WATERLOO.
OKAY, HERE'S A VERY
TRICKY QUESTION NOW.
WE'RE GOING BACK TO
PREMIERS FOR A SECOND HERE.
AND I'M GOING TO
GIVE YOU THE NAME OF...
I'M GOING TO GIVE YOU
THE NAME OF THE PREMIER,
AND YOU'RE GOING TO
TELL ME THE RIDING
THE PREMIER COMES FROM.
OKAY, HERE WE GO.
I'M GOING TO
START FAIRLY EASY,
GET A LITTLE MORE
DIFFICULT AS WE MOVE ALONG.
NUMBER ONE,
MIKE HARRIS.
YES.

Rick says GLEN
ABBEY GOLF COURSE.
[laughing]

Steve says INCORRECT.

Mac says NIPISSING.

Steve says NIPISSING IS
CORRECT.
NIPISSING
IS THE NAME.
OKAY, NOW...
[laughing]

Mac says IT'S A WORD
ASSOCIATION THING.

Steve says NEXT ONE, BOB RAE.

Ruth and
Mac say
YORK SOUTH.

Steve says YORK SOUTH
IS CORRECT.
WHEN SHE RINGS IN,
YOU CAN'T ANSWER.

Rick says YEAH, BUT YOU
DIDN'T SAY HER NAME;
YOU GOTTA SAY
HER NAME.

Steve says THE NEXT
ONE, LESLIE FROST.
YES?

Mac says MISCAMPBELL.
[laughing]

Richard says WHICH IS ACTUALLY
HIS MIDDLE NAME...

Steve says THAT IS
HIS MIDDLE NAME.
RICHARD, YOU
WERE IN SECOND.

Mac says VICTORIA-HALIBURTON.

Steve says WELL, WAIT A SECOND,
YOU WERE IN SECOND!

Richard says I WAS GOING TO
SAY VICTORIA-HALIBURTON.
[laughing]
IS THAT RIGHT?

Steve says NO, IT'S
NOT RIGHT ANYWAY.

The caption changes to “Victoria.”

Ruth says LINDSAY.

Steve says NO, HE'S
FROM LINDSAY, BUT -

Mac says HALIBURTON.

Steve says NO.

Mac says HALIBURTON.

Rick says IF YOU SAY IT LONG ENOUGH
THE CONTINENT WILL DRIFT
AND IT'LL BECOME HALIBURTON.

Ruth says NOW THE CITY
OF KAWARTHA LAKES.

Steve says THAT'S RIGHT.
THE MAN WHO WAS PREMIER IN
1943 FOR A CUP OF COFFEE.
HARRY NIXON - YES.

Mac says BRANT.

Richard says BRANT.

Steve says WAIT A SECOND, IF
HE RINGS IN, YOU CAN'T
YELL IT OUT.
[talking over each other]

Ruth says BUT HE RANG IN AND
HE DIDN'T KNOW THE ANSWER.

Steve says HE WAS A LITTLE SLOW.

Richard says I WAS PAUSING
FOR DRAMATIC EFFECT.

Rick says FOR A TOSSUP, THEY
HAVE TO NAME THE FIRST NAME.
WHOEVER GETS
THE FIRST NAME.

Steve says THE ANSWER
IS BRANT, YES.
NOW, THE LAST
ONE HERE.

Mac says BIG
ASSIST FOR ME.

Steve says BIG ASSIST
FOR PENNEY.
THE LAST ONE IN
THIS CATEGORY:
WHAT RIDING DID JAMES
PLINY WHITNEY REPRESENT?
YES.

Mac says BRANT.

Steve says NO, THAT
IS NOT CORRECT.

Ruth says IT'S A
NORTHERN ONE.

Steve says IT WAS NOT
A NORTHERN ONE.

Richard says A
SOUTHERN ONE.

Steve says IT WAS NOT
A SOUTHERN ONE.

Mac says OH, OH, OH,
OH, OH, OH!
STEVE, STEVE, STEVE!
BROCK.

Steve says NO.
BUT YOU'RE IN THE
RIGHT NECK OF THE WOODS.

Mac says STEVE, STEVE,
STEVE, STEVE, STEVE!
NIAGARA.

Steve says NO, I'M GOING
TO GIVE IT TO YOU, GANG.
IT'S DUNDAS.

Mac says I WAS CLOSE!

Steve says BUT NOT THE DUNDAS
THAT'S PART OF HAMILTON.
IT'S THE DUNDAS IN
EASTERN ONTARIO.

An old black and white picture of a man with a beard and glasses appears.

Mac says I WAS THE
CLOSEST, I WAS THE CLOSEST.

Steve says OH, IS
THAT HIM THERE?

Mac says WHERE?

Steve says IS THAT WHITNEY?
WELL, I GUESS THAT WAS HIM.

Ruth says I KNOW WHAT
RIDING I REPRESENTED.
[laughing]

Steve says YOU KNOW WHAT, I DON'T
THINK THAT WAS WHITNEY.
BUT I THINK THAT WAS THE
ANSWER TO THE NEXT QUESTION.
BUT YOU GUYS DON'T
KNOW WHO IT WAS ANYWAY.
SO, I'M GOING TO SAY IT.
ONLY ONE PREMIER IN ONTARIO
HISTORY ALSO SERVED AS A
FEDERAL CABINET MINISTER
AND LIEUTENANT GOVERNOR
OF THE PROVINCE.
[maracas and tambourine shaking]

Richard says OLIVER MOWAT.

Steve says IS CORRECT!
OLIVER MOWAT; BRING
THE PICTURE OF OLIVER UP?

Mac says HOW MANY VOTES?
WHAT BALLOT?

Richard says BRANT.

Steve says THERE WE GO;
OLIVER MOWAT, YES.

The picture now appears with the caption “Oliver Mowat.”

Rick says NO RELATION TO FARLEY.

Steve says NONE AT ALL.

Rick says COULD BE,
COULD BE.

Steve says NONE AT ALL.

Richard says NOT AS
GOOD WRITER THOUGH.

Steve says FRIENDS, THIS IS GOING
TO BE A VIDEO CLUE NOW.
SO, WATCH THE MONITORS
HERE IN THE STUDIO...

Rick says STEVE PAIKIN!

Steve says NO.

Rick says BECAUSE
THAT'S WHAT'S UP!

Steve says WELL, WAIT FOR IT,
RICK, WAIT FOR IT.
[laughing]
WHICH PREMIER FACED
THIS PROTEST AND WHY?
ROLL TAPE.
[applause and cheering]

A clip shows people ripping and tossing papers in the air.

People sing WE SHALL NOT, WE
SHALL NOT BE MOVED
WE SHALL NOT, WE
SHALL NOT BE...

Mac says I WAS IN FIRST,
I WAS IN FIRST!

Ruth says SOLIDARITY
FOREVER AGAINST ROB RAE.

Steve says NO, NO.

The caption changes to “Bob Rae, Social Contract.”

Mac says THE
TEACHER'S FEDERATION.

Steve says KEEP GOING.

Mac says LIZ BARKLEY.

Ruth says IT WAS THE
SOCIAL CONTRACT.

Mac says SOCIAL CONTRACT.
[talking over each other]
YOU'RE BOTH RIGHT.

Richard says I THINK MAC
ACTUALLY RANG IN FIRST.

Steve says MAC RANG IN
FIRST, SHE ANSWERED FIRST.
SHE GOT THE RIGHT ANSWER;
YOU... YOU KNOW.

Mac says COME ON,
COME ON!

Steve says I'M GOING TO LET THE
JUDGES FIGURE THIS ONE OUT.

Mac says I GAVE HIM THE POINT
WHEN HE RANG IN FIRST...

Steve says I'LL LET THE JUDGES
FIGURE THIS ONE OUT.

Mac says I'M OUT WAY AHEAD ON
THIS ONE, I CAN TELL.

Steve says OKAY, HERE IS
THE NEXT QUESTION.
THE TRADITION,
AS WE ALL KNOW,
AS QUEEN'S PARK, ONCE A
PREMIER LEAVES OFFICE,
IS TO HAVE HIS
PORTRAIT PAINTED.
NO, NO.
BY AN ARTIST OF HIS CHOICE,
AND THEN THE PORTRAIT,
OF COURSE, HANGS IN THE
HALLWAYS OF THE LEGISLATURE.
THE QUESTION IS, WHO WAS THE
FIRST PREMIER TO BE PAINTED
WITH HIS JACKET OFF?

Rick says HOPEFULLY NOT
BILL DAVIS.
THAT'S JUST A...

Steve says YOU ARE CORRECT;
IT WAS NOT BILL DAVIS.

Ruth says DAVID PETERSON.

Steve says DAVID PETERSON;
RUTH GRIER IS CORRECT.
DAVID PETERSON PAINTED
WITH HIS JACKET OFF.
AND BOB RAE DID THE SAME
AFTER THAT, I BELIEVE.

Richard says AND THEY SAID THERE
WAS A JOKE ABOUT HANGING AND
ALL THAT SORT OF STUFF.
AND IT WAS GOOD, YEAH.

Steve says NICE TO BE HUNG
TOGETHER, OR SOMETHING.
I DON'T KNOW.

Richard says HANG SEPARATELY.

Steve says OKAY, ANOTHER
QUESTION ABOUT PREMIERS.
TWO ONTARIO PREMIERS
REPRESENTED THE SAME RIDING,
OBVIOUSLY NOT AT
THE SAME TIME.
BUT CAN YOU IMAGINE THIS:
FROM THE SAME RIDING CAME
TWO ONTARIO PREMIERS.
YES, RUTH.

Ruth says LONDON.

Steve says IS INCORRECT.
YOU'RE THINKING
PETERSON AND ROBARTS.
DIFFERENT RIDING,
SAME CITY.
GO AHEAD, MAC.

Mac says I WAS THINKING EXACTLY
WHAT RUTH WAS THINKING.
BUT I WOULDN'T HAVE
BEEN NEARLY AS WRONG.

Steve says IT'S A GOOD GUESS.
PETERSON WAS LONDON CENTRE,
ROBARTS WAS LONDON NORTH.
WE ACTUALLY HAVE
TWO PREMIERS FROM
THE SAME RIDING.

Mac says YORK SOUTH.
NOT CORRECT.

Mac says NIPISSING!

Steve says NOT CORRECT.

Mac says BRANT!

Steve says NO;
ANYBODY ELSE?
NO?

Mac says VICTORIA!

Steve says THE ANSWER IS
THE RIDING OF PEEL,
WHERE BILL DAVIS AND TOM
KENNEDY BOTH CAME FROM.

Mac says WAIT A MINUTE,
IS THAT A RIDING?

Ruth says YES, IT WAS A
RIDING ORIGINALLY.

Richard says I DID NOT KNOW
THAT; DID YOU KNOW -

Rick says AND I LIVE
OUT IN PEEL.

Steve says IT WAS ORIGINALLY
CALLED PEEL RIDING.
THEY, OF COURSE, CHANGED
TO BRAMPTON AND THEN -

Rick says SO, IF I BECOME
PREMIER, IT WOULD BE THREE.

Steve says IT WOULD!

Rick says ALTHOUGH I
WASN'T BORN OUT THERE.

Steve says THAT'S RIGHT.

Rick and
Richard say GREEN,
GREEN, GREEN, GREEN!
GREEN MACHINE,
GREEN MACHINE.

Steve says IF YOU WANT, THERE'S
NO EXTRA POINT FOR THIS.
BUT I CAN TELL YOU THAT
AT BRAMPTON HIGH SCHOOL,
TWO PREMIERS ATTENDED
AT THE SAME TIME.
TWO FUTURE PREMIERS
ATTENDED BRAMPTON HIGH AT
THE SAME TIME; DO YOU
KNOW WHO THEY ARE?

Mac says RICK GREEN.

Steve says NO, NO, TONY IS
NOT PREMIER YET,
MUCH TO HIS CHAGRIN.

Richard says BILL DAVIS.

Steve says BILL DAVIS IS ONE.
THE HINT ON THE OTHER ONE
IS THAT IT'S NOT FROM
THE SAME PROVINCE.

Ruth says IT'S MANITOBA AND...

Steve says VERY
GOOD, RUTH GRIER!

Richard says HOWARD PAWLEY.

Steve says THAT'S RIGHT.
BILL DAVIS AND
HOWARD PAWLEY.

Richard says WE DON'T GET
EXTRA POINTS FOR THAT?

Steve says AT BRAMPTON
HIGH - I'D SAY YES.
I'D SAY YOU GET
EXTRA POINTS.

Ruth says BUT I DID
THE PROVINCE.

Rick says I THINK WE SHOULD
WIN LIKE A NEW CAR.

Richard says A NEW CAR!

Rick says RUTH SHOULD
GET A NEW CAR.
YEAH, A WINDSTAR.

Mac says IT WAS
ONTARIO POLITICS.
RICHARD GOT A
MANITOBA PREMIER.
THAT'S HARDLY
ONTARIO POLITICS.

Steve says WE'LL TAKE THAT UP WITH
OUR ARBITRATOR AFTER
THIS IS ALL OVER.
LADY AND GENTLEMEN, I
WENT INTO THE CABINET OFFICE
YESTERDAY AND SAW
THIS FOR MY OWN EYES.
IF YOU INTO THAT OFFICE,
WHERE MISSUS GRIER HAS SERVED
THE PUBLIC SO
ABLY IN THE PAST,
YOU WILL SEE PICTURES
ON THE WALL OF 21 MEN
AND ONE WOMAN.
THE 21 MEN ARE OBVIOUSLY
ALL OF THE PREMIERS,
WHO HAVE PRECEDED
MIKE HARRIS.
WHO'S THE WOMAN?

Mac says THE QUEEN!

Steve says THE QUEEN
IS CORRECT.
WOULD YOU CARE
TO GIVE HER NAME?

Mac says UHHH...
ELIZABETH THE FIRST.

Steve says NO, THE SECOND,
ACTUALLY.
BUT THAT'S
CLOSE ENOUGH.

Ruth says AND WHAT
WAS HER RIDING?
[laughing]

Richard says BRANT.

Mac says IT WAS
RIDING A HORSE.

Rick says I BELIEVE
IT'S ALL OF THEM.
I BELIEVE HER RIDING
IS WHATEVER SHE WANTS.

Steve says THAT'S
RIGHT, THAT'S RIGHT.
HERE'S A CATEGORY
WE'RE GOING TO CALL "THE
NEXT GENERATION," AND WHAT
I'M GOING TO DO IS I'M GOING
TO NAME THE SON OF THE
DAUGHTER WHO IS IN POLITICS.
AND YOU HAVE TO NAME THE
PARENT WHO PRECEDED THE KID
IN POLITICS, AND WHAT
THAT PARENT DID, OKAY?

Rick says GEORGE W.
BUSH HERE.

Steve says THIS NOT BUSHES,
NOT KENNEDYS,
NOT JACKSONS;
THIS IS CANADA.
OKAY, SO HERE WE GO;
QUESTION NUMBER ONE.
JANE STEWART.
YES?

Richard says BOB NIXON.

Steve says OKAY,
AND WHAT WAS HE?

Ruth says LEADER OF THE
OPPOSITION.

Richard says LEADER OF THE
OPPOSITION, TREASURER OF
ONTARIO, LEADER OF
THE LIBERAL PARTY.

Steve says ALL TRUE,
ALL TRUE.
SUE, YOU CAN PICK WHICHEVER
ONE OF THOSE YOU LIKE -

Ruth says HEAD
OF A.E.C.L.

Steve says HEAD OF ATOMIC
ENERGY OF CANADA AS WELL.
OKAY, SECOND ONE:
LARRY GROSSMAN.
YES, RICK GREEN?

Rick says I HAVE NO IDEA.
[laughing]

Ruth says ALLAN
GROSSMAN.

Rick says MISTER GROSSMAN.

Ruth says ALLAN
GROSSMAN.

Steve says ALLAN
GROSSMAN IS RIGHT.

Ruth says TORY
CABINET MINISTER.

Steve says TORY CABINET
MINISTER IS ALSO CORRECT.

Richard says ALSO STARTED A VERY
FAMOUS TAVERN ON SPADINA,
WHICH IS STILL
THERE, CALLED GROSSMAN'S.

Ruth says WHICH WAS
IN HIS RIDING.

Steve says DID HE
FOUND THAT?

Mac says I DON'T THINK SO; I
THINK THAT'S A GREAT
URBAN MYTH.

Rick says I THINK I
PLAYED THAT PLACE.
SO, THERE YOU
GO, WOW.

Steve says RICK GETS A POINT
FOR HAVING PLAYED
GROSSMAN'S
TAVERN.

Richard says AND I GET A POINT
FOR DRINKING BEER THERE.

Steve says AND YOU GET A POINT
FOR DRINKING BEER THERE.

Rick says I PLAYED ALLAN
GROSSMAN ON STAGE, ACTUALLY.
YEAH, IT WAS A
LITTLE SKIT ABOUT -

Ruth says CAN I GET A POINT FOR
HAVING NEVER BEEN THERE?

Steve says YES, YOU CAN.
YOU CAN HAVE A POINT FOR
NEVER HAVING BEEN THERE.
[chuckling]
OKAY, NEXT ONE:
CHRIS STOCKWELL.
RUTH.

Ruth says BILL STOCKWELL.

Steve says YES, IS HIS FATHER.

Ruth says HE WAS A CONTROLLER IN
THE CITY OF ETOBICOKE.

Steve says THAT IS CORRECT.

Richard says ETOBICOKE
QUESTION.

Steve says IT'S A BIT
OF A FIX.

[talking over each other]

Steve says HERE'S AN
EXTRA POINT FOR YOU,
RUTH, IF YOU KNOW BILL
STOCKWELL'S REAL FIRST NAME.

Ruth says WINFIELD.

Steve says IS CORRECT,
VERY GOOD!
WINFIELD STOCKWELL.

Rick says I JUST KNEW STOCKWELL
DAY IS SOMEHOW RELATED.

Steve says I DON'T BELIEVE
THERE'S ANY RELATION.

Ruth says ONLY
PHILOSOPHICALLY.
[laughing]

Steve says NOT EVEN
THERE, I SUSPECT.
LAST ONE IN
THIS CATEGORY.
I'M GOING TO GIVE
YOU THE KID'S NAME,
YOU TELL ME THE
DAD'S NAME.
TONY CLEMENT.
YES.

Ruth says STEP-DAD.

Mac says YES, IT IS HIS
STEP-DAD, ACTUALLY.

Ruth says JOHN CLEMENT.

Steve says STEP-DAD
JOHN CLEMENT.

The caption changes to “John Clement. PC Attorney General.”

Ruth says MINISTER OF
TRANSPORTATION.

Mac says IT'S AMAZING HOW
I'M THROWING MY VOICE.

Steve says WAS HE MINISTER OF
TRANSPORTATION?
WHEN HE WAS DEFEATED IN 1975,
HE WAS ATTORNEY GENERAL
AT THE TIME.
SO, YES, JOHN
CLEMENT IS CORRECT.

Ruth says BUT HE HAD
BEEN TRANSPORTATION.

Steve says HE HAD BEEN?

Ruth says INDEED.

Steve says OKAY, I'LL
TAKE YOUR WORD FOR IT.

Richard says HE HAD WHATEVER
THE ELEVATORS ARE,
BECAUSE HIS SIGNATURE
IS IN MANY ELEVATORS.

Steve says IS THAT RIGHT?

Ruth says YOU MEAN,
GRAFFITI?

Rick says IS HIS
FIRST NAME OTIS?

Steve says NO, IT IS NOT.

Rick says I'VE BEEN IN
A LOT OF ELEVATORS,
I'VE SEEN HIM.

Steve says AND ANOTHER LITTLE
PIECE OF TRIVIA AS WELL,
IF YOU WANT
TO KNOW THIS.
WHEN TONY CLEMENT WAS
SWORN INTO HIS FIRST JOB,
WHICH I THINK
TRANSPORTATION MINISTER,
WHICH HIS
FATHER WAS AS WELL,
YOU TELL US, HE USED
HIS FATHER'S BIBLE AT THE
SWEARING IN AND HAD IT
SIGNED BY THE CLERK OF THE
DAY AND BY THE LIEUTENANT
GOVERNOR OF THE DAY AND
THE PREMIER OF THE DAY.
SO, IT'S ALL SORT OF
SECOND-GENERATION, VERY...
WHAT'S THE WORD
I'M LOOKING FOR?

Rick says DYNASTY.

Steve says DYNASTY,
THAT'S THE WORD, YEAH.

Rick says SO, IT'S A CANADIAN DYNASTY;
A CANADIAN DYNASTY.
IT'S TWO PEOPLE.
YEAH, EXACTLY.

Steve says PHLEGMATIC, WAS THAT
THE WORD I WAS LOOKING FOR?

Richard says NO.

Rick says PHLEGMATIC'S A
CONDITION, I BELIEVE,
IN THE LEGS, THAT YOU
CAN GET; IT'S AWFUL.

Steve says WE'RE GOING TO GO TO
ANOTHER VIDEO CLUE AGAIN.
SO, WATCH THE MONITORS
HERE IN THE STUDIO.
WE'RE ABOUT TO SHOW YOU A
CABINET MINISTER INTRODUCING
A BILL AND ANSWERING
QUESTIONS ABOUT ONE OF THE
MOST CONTENTIOUS BILLS
EVER INTRODUCED IN ONTARIO
POLITICAL HISTORY.
SO, I WANT YOU
TO WATCH THIS, TELL US
WHAT IS THE BILL THAT THE
MINISTER IS TALKING ABOUT.
ROLL TAPE.


The minister says I HAVE THAT RIGHT
THERE TO READ BACK TO YOU.
MISTER SPEAKER,
GIVE ME TWO MINUTES?

Mac says EEK.

Steve says GO AHEAD, MAC.

Mac says IT'S THE
AMALGAMATION BILL,
CITY OF TORONTO.

Steve says ACTUALLY,
THAT'S NOT RIGHT.
THAT'S NOT RIGHT.

Mac says NOT RIGHT?!

Steve says NO.
FIRST OF ALL,
WHO'S THE MINISTER?

Mac says AL LEACH.

Steve says AL LEACH
IS THE MINISTER.

Ruth says IT'S BILL 26.

Steve says RUTH GRIER
IS CORRECT.

Ruth says IT'S THE OMNIBUS BILL,
AND HE HADN'T EVEN READ IT.

Steve says THAT IS
THE OMNIBUS BILL.

Richard says HE CAN'T BE HAPPY
ABOUT YOU SHOWING THAT CLIP.
THAT'S NOT A FINE
MOMENT FOR HIM.

Steve says WHO ASKED HIM
THE QUESTION THAT GOT HIM
PUZZLING AND
LOOKING THROUGH THE BILL?

Ruth says BOB RAE.

Steve says BOB RAE
IS CORRECT.
SO, GIVE POINTS OUT AS NEEDS
BE HERE, SUE KELLEY.

Rick says AND BOB RAE.
AND SOME POINTS FOR BOB RAE.
FOR NAILING HIM LIKE THAT.
NOW, IF YOU'VE EVER
READ GOVERNMENT BILLS,
YOU CAN'T BLAME THE
GUY FOR NOT READING IT.
YOU KNOW, I MEAN, HE
KNOWS BETTER THAN MOST.

Richard says "GIVE ME A
MOMENT" IS A GOOD LINE.
[laughing]

Rick says EVERYBODY LOOKS
UP TWO MINUTES LATER,
HE'S GONE;
WHERE'D HE GO?

Ruth says BUT HE HADN'T BEEN
A MINISTER LONG ENOUGH TO
UNDERSTAND THAT YOU
SHOULDN'T READ BILLS.

Steve says YOU TELLING US YOU
NEVER READ THE BILLS
YOU INTRODUCED?

Ruth says I ALWAYS
READ THE BILLS.

Mac says OH, SURE, YEAH.

Ruth says MINE WERE
SHORT, SUCCINCT,
TO THE POINT,
AND EFFECTIVE.
[laughing]

Richard says THE RECLAIMING
GOVERNMENT ACT, YEP.
[laughing]

Steve says OKAY, THERE ARE TWO
MPPs IN THE LEGISLATURE,
AS WE KNOW, WHO
GO BACK TO 1981.
THAT'S MIKE HARRIS
AND BOB RUNCIMAN.
BUT THEY ARE
ACTUALLY NOT -

Rick says THEY CAN GO BACK?
THEY CAN TIME TRAVEL?

Steve says NO, NO, NO.

Rick says OH, THEY DO
OH, I'M SORRY.
THAT'S WHAT YOU USED TO DO
ON THAT OLD SHOW OF YOURS.

Steve says NO, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THEY
HAD THEIR ORIGINS IN THE
1981 ELECTION.
THEY'RE NOT THE
LONGEST SERVING MEMBERS.
RICHARD MAHONEY.

Richard says SEAN
CONWAY, 1975.

Steve says KEEP GOING.

Richard says NORM
STERLING?

Steve says KEEP
GOING, YEAH.

The caption changes to “Norm Sterling, Jim Bradley and Sean Conway.”

Richard says I DON'T KNOW HOW
MANY I'M SUPPOSED TO ANSWER
NOW; I GUESS THAT'S MY
FAULT, BECAUSE I WENT
LIKE THIS.
'77, AND I'M OUT.

Steve says THERE'S ONE MORE.

Richard says THERE'S
ONE MORE?

Steve says YEAH;
GOES BACK TO 1977.

Mac says BACK TO '77?

Richard says '77...

Mac says LIBERAL?

Steve says IT IS A
LIBERAL.

Mac says IT'S A LIBERAL -
UH, BRADLEY.

Steve says JIM BRADLEY
IS CORRECT.
TWO POINTS HERE,
ONE POINT HERE.
VERY WELL DONE.

Mac says I HELPED HIM OUT ON
STERLING, SO WE SHOULD GET
ONE-AND-A-HALF,
ONE-AND-A-HALF.

Steve says YOU HAVE A STERLING
PRESENCE AT THIS TABLE.
I CAN CERTAINLY
SAY THAT.

Richard says JUST
REMEMBERING STERLING,
I THINK, YOU SHOULD
GET A POINT FOR THAT.

Steve says AND ANOTHER
LITTLE PIECE OF TRIVIA HERE?
YOU REMEMBER IN 1985, THE
ONTARIO GOVERNMENT BROUGHT
IN FULL FUNDING FOR
SEPARATE SCHOOLS.
WHO WAS THE ONLY MPP IN THE
HOUSE TO VOTE AGAINST THAT?

Ruth says NORM STERLING.

Steve says NORM STERLING IS CORRECT;
ANOTHER POINT FOR
RUTH GRIER.

Rick says NOW, DO WE GET TO VOTE
SOMEONE OFF THE ISLAND
AT
THIS POINT?

Richard says EXCELLENT, EXCELLENT!

Steve says DIFFERENT SHOW.

Rick says I'VE GOT ABOUT FOUR NAMES
THAT I'D LIKE TO SUBMIT
RIGHT NOW.

Steve says DIFFERENT SHOW.
OKAY, YOU HAVE TO BE A BIT
OF A POLITICAL ANIMAL TO GET
INTO THE CABINET,
AS RUTH WOULD KNOW.
SO, NAME TWO OF ONTARIO'S
PAST CABINET MINISTERS WHOSE
NAMES ARE ANIMALS.
YES.

Rick says SLEEPING DRAGON
AND CROUCHING TIGER.
[laughing]
NO, NO, SORRY,
THAT'S NOT IT.

Steve says THAT IS NOT CORRECT.

Mac says THEY'RE ANIMALS OR
THEIR NAMES ARE ANIMALS?

Steve says THEIR LAST
NAMES ARE ANIMALS.
AND RUTH, COINCIDENTALLY,
THEY'RE BOTH
ENVIRONMENT MINISTERS.
OOH, IT'S REALLY
GETTING INTERESTING NOW.

Richard says NOT NEWMAN.

Mac says WELL, IT'S
CAN'T BE...
WE'VE ONLY HAD...

Ruth says BUT THERE WEREN'T
VERY MANY TORY...

Mac says IS THERE AN
ANIMAL NAMED BRADLEY?

Steve says JUST A
POLITICAL ONE.

Ruth says FISH,
SUSAN FISH.

Steve says SUSAN FISH,
THAT IS CORRECT!

Ruth says SHE'S ONE.

Steve says VERY
GOOD, RUTH GRIER.

Ruth says WILDMAN?

Richard says BIRD?

Steve says WILDMAN IS A BIT OF
AN ANIMAL, WASN'T HE?

Steve says NO, BUD WILDMAN
DOES NOT COUNT.
THAT'S GOOD.
THINK WOODSTOCK.

The caption changes to “Harry Parrott and Susan Fish.”

Mac says REPTILE?

Ruth says OH,
HARRY PARROTT.

Steve says HARRY PARROTT,
VERY GOOD, RUTH.
VERY GOOD,
VERY GOOD.

Ruth says AND HE AND I AND JIM BRADLEY
COSIGNED A LETTER TO THIS
GOVERNMENT ABOUT
THEIR MISSED SINS,
THREE ENVIRONMENT MINISTERS.
[talking over each other]

Rick says WAS HE THE ONE THAT
WAS LOCKED UP AND EVERYBODY
WAS HOLDING OUT THE
SIGNS TO GET HIM OUT OF...
LIKE, THIS WAS
SOMETHING WITH PARROTT?
WAS THAT THE
SAME PARROTT?

Richard says NO.

Rick says NO, WHO WAS THAT?

Steve says I DON'T REMEMBER.

Richard says THAT WAS MONTY
PYTHON'S DEAD PARROT.

Rick says BUT I REMEMBER TURNING
THE TV ON AND THERE WERE A
WHOLE BUNCH OF PEOPLE
HOLDING SIGNS SAYING,
"FREE PARROT," AND IT LOOKED
LIKE IT WAS A GIVEAWAY,
BUT IT WAS NOT.
IT WAS FREE PARROT,
FREE SOMETHING.
IT WAS PEROT,
THAT'S WHO IT WAS!

Ruth says OH, PEROT.

Rick says BUT I JUST REMEMBER
GOING, WOW,
I SHOULD GET
ONE FOR THE KIDS!
AND THEN IT
WAS POLITICAL.
[laughing]

Steve says THAT'S NOT BAD;
THAT'S PRETTY GOOD.
LET ME JUST FIND OUT,
HOW AM I DOING ON TIME?

A crew member says FIVE.

Steve says WE'VE GOT
FIVE MINUTES LEFT?
WHICH IS GOOD, BECAUSE WE
HAVE FIVE QUESTIONS LEFT.
OKAY, THIS IS GOOD, OKAY.
MEMORABLE QUOTES IS
OUR NEXT SECTION.
OF COURSE, YOU CANNOT BECOME
A GREAT POLITICIAN IN THIS
DAY AND AGE WITHOUT SAYING
SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE
MEMORABLE FOR THE
PEOPLE: "ASK NOT FOR YOUR..."

Ruth says "I AM NOT LIAR,
I AM NOT A CROOK,"
THOSE KINDS
OF THINGS.

Richard says "ICH BIN
EIN BERLINER."

Steve says "ICH BIN
EIN BERLINER."

Mac says "GIVE ME
TWO MINUTES."

Steve says "GIVE ME
TWO MINUTES"?
[laughing]
[talking over each other]

Rick says "I DID NOT HAVE SEX
WITH THAT WOMAN."

Steve says YEAH, THAT'S
ANOTHER ONE, YEAH.

Ruth says MIKE HARRIS ON HYDRO:
"THIS IS GOING TO WORK."

Steve says WELL, THAT'S NOT
THE MOST MEMORABLE LINE
OF HIS, BUT, YOU KNOW.
LET'S JUST PLAY ALONG
HERE AND WE'LL SEE WHAT
WE COME UP WITH.
HERE IS A POLITICIAN
YOU ALL KNOW.
A QUOTE, ACTUALLY, FROM
THE 1995 ELECTION CAMPAIGN.
"WE NEED TO APPEAL TO THE
BETTER ANGELS IN US ALL."

Rick says OSAMA BIN LADEN.

Steve says IS INCORRECT.

Rick says DAMN, IT JUST SOUNDED
LIKE HIM, DIDN'T IT?
[laughing]

Mac says THE BETTER
ANGELS IN US ALL?

Steve says YES;
GO AHEAD.

Mac says BOB RAE.

Steve says BOB RAE
SAID THAT, INDEED.
AND AN EXTRA POINT IF YOU
CAN TELL ME WHO BOB RAE WAS
QUOTING WHEN HE SAID IT.

Mac says MARY ANGELOU.

Steve says NO.

Ruth says JOHN KENNEDY.

Steve says NOT JOHN KENNEDY;
GO BACK FURTHER.
GO BACK FURTHER.

Mac says WILLIAM BLAKE.

Steve says KEEP GOING BACK.

Mac says WILLIAM BLAKE.

Steve says GO BACK.

Mac says KEN KESEY.
[laughing]

Rick says I'LL SAY
SHAKESPEARE.

Steve says SHAKESPEARE'S
TOO FAR BACK.
NO, HE WAS ACTUALLY
QUOTING ABRAHAM LINCOLN.
HE WAS QUOTING
ABRAHAM LINCOLN.
OKAY, HERE IS
THE SECOND ONE.
"BY THE TIME WE'RE DONE,
THERE WON'T BE A SINGLE
BLADE OF GRASS IN FRONT OF
THE LEGISLATURE NOT TRAMPLED
ON BY SOME PROTESTER."

Ruth says MIKE HARRIS;
AND WAS HE RIGHT.

Steve says MIKE
HARRIS IS CORRECT.

Rick says FINALLY,
SOMEONE WHO DELIVERS.
[laughing]

Ruth says PROMISES KEPT.

Mac says THERE WAS A CERTAIN
PART OF OUR CONSTITUENCY
THAT WANTED TO STOP AFTER:
THERE WON'T BE A SINGLE
BLADE OF GRASS IN
FRONT OF THE LEGISLATURE.

Ruth says HE'S MANAGED TO DO A
FAIR AMOUNT ABOUT THAT ONE.

Mac says WELL, NOW, IT'S
NEVER LOOKED BETTER.

Ruth says LOOK AT THE
OAK RIDGES MORAINE.

Steve says BUT I THINK
AS PROJECTIONS GO,
THAT ONE WAS
PROBABLY TRUE, RIGHT?

Mac says THAT WAS
VERY TRUE.

Steve says THERE PROBABLY HAVE
NEVER BEEN BIGGER PROTESTS
IN GREATER NUMBERS ON THE
FRONT STEPS OF QUEEN'S PARK -

Mac says NEVER HAVE PEOPLE IN
ONTARIO BEEN MORE
INVOLVED IN DEMOCRACY.

Steve says THAT'S ANOTHER
WAY TO PUT IT, MAC.

Mac says THEY'RE MORE
ENGAGED IN THE PROCESS.

Steve says NICELY PUT.

Mac says IT APPEALS TO THE
ANGELS IN ALL OF THEM.

Richard says THOSE GUYS WITH THE
FLACK HELMETS AND THE THINGS
AND THE GUNS AND ALL THAT.

Mac says GUARDIAN ANGELS,
GUARDIAN ANGELS.

Steve says I SENSE A DISAGREEMENT
AT THE TABLE ABOUT THE...
[maracas shaking]
YES, MISCAMPBELL, OKAY.
MISCAMPBELL,
OKAY.

Ruth says WE JUST WANTED
YOU TO GET ON.
HERE IS THE NEXT QUOTE.
"I HAVE NO PLANS TO HAVE
PLANS TO HAVE PLANS."
MAC PENNEY.

Mac says BILL DAVIS.

Steve says BILL DAVIS,
IN WHAT CONTEXT?

Rick says MINISTER OF PLANNING.
[laughing]

Mac says HE WAS ANSWERING
WHETHER OR NOT HE WAS GOING
TO LEAVE OFFICE.

Steve says NO.

Mac says RESIGN.

Ruth says SEPARATE
SCHOOL FUNDING.

Steve says NO, NO.

Richard says WHETHER OR NOT HE
WAS GOING TO SEEK LEADERSHIP
OF THE FEDERAL PROGRESSIVE
CONSERVATIVE PARTY IN 1983.

Steve says RICHARD
MAHONEY IS CORRECT.

Mac says I THINK IT'S A TRIBUTE
TO BILL DAVIS'S GENIUS THAT
HE COULD HAVE SAID THAT ABOUT
SO MANY DIFFERENT THINGS.
[laughing]
AND THEY ALL SOUND SO
CREDIBLE IN RETROSPECT.

Richard says THAT'S TRUE,
I'M SURE HE DID SAY THEM.

Rick says THAT'S THE KEY
TO HAVING A CONSISTENT
PLATFORM, REALLY.
IT'S JUST, I HAVE NO
PLANS, I HAVE NO PLANS.
LIKE, BUMPER STICKERS;
THAT'D BE GREAT.

Steve says IF YOU REMEMBER,
WE GO BACK TO 1983,
AND I THINK BRIAN
MULRONEY WAS IN.
AND JOHN CROSBIE
WAS IN.
AND JOE CLARK
WAS IN.
AND THERE WAS A CONSIDERABLE
AMOUNT OF PRESSURE ON
PETER LOUGHEED AND WILLIAM
DAVIS ALSO TO GET IN.
AND I THINK IF
MEMORY SERVES,
MISTER DAVIS HAD A MEETING AT
THE PARK PLAZA HOTEL WITH
A NUMBER OF SUPPORTERS
FROM QUEBEC.
WHICH REALLY SURPRISED
HIM, WHO WERE SAYING -

Ruth says HOW MANY POINTS ARE YOU
TRYING TO RANK UP?

Richard says IF YOU
ACTUALLY WANT TO KNOW MORE,
YOU CAN COME TO
STEVE PAIKIN'S DELIGHT.

Steve says WHO WERE
SAYING, GET IN.

Mac says THIS IS ACTUALLY
STEVE PAIKIN'S UPCOMING
FEATURE ON BILL DAVIS.

Steve says BUT HE
DECIDED NOT TO GO.
BOTTOM LINE, HE
DECIDED NOT TO GO,
AS WE ALL KNOW.
OKAY, LAST QUOTE FOR
AND, COINCIDENTALLY,
LAST QUESTION.
"I AM A MAN OF MY TIMES
AND MY TIME IS DONE."
[maracas and tambourine shaking]
RICK.

Richard says JOHN ROBARTS.

Steve says JOHN
ROBARTS IS CORRECT.
YOU REMEMBER THE CONTEXT
IN WHICH HE SAID IT?

Ruth says WHEN HE
STEPPED DOWN.

Steve says WHEN HE STEPPED
DOWN, THAT'S RIGHT.
HE GATHERED HIS CABINET
TOGETHER IN DECEMBER OF 1970
AND SAID, "I'M A MAN OF MY
TIMES AND MY TIME IS DONE."

Ruth says AND THAT WAS A
STEVE PAIKIN SPECIAL,
OF COURSE, WASN'T IT?

Richard says A LOT OF
SELF-REFERENCE THERE.
[laughing]

Steve says THAT'S GOOD.
WE HAVE LITERALLY 45 SECONDS
LEFT FOR SUSANNA KELLEY TO
TALLY THE RESULTS AND
FIND OUT HOW SPLENDIDLY
YOU ALL DID.
AND I MUST SAY, YOU ALL
DID MUCH BETTER THIS YEAR.

Rick says I GOT A SENSE I'VE
GOT A SHOT IN THERE
SOMEWHERE.

Steve says HANG ON A SECOND.
WE'RE GETTING THE
RESULTS IN HERE.
HANG ON, GO AHEAD.
GIVE ME FROM THE
BOTTOM UP, YEAH.

Mac says THAT
WOULD BE RUTH.

Steve says RICK GREEN
GOT FOUR, OKAY.
MAC PENNEY
GOT 14, OKAY.

Mac says OH, MY GOD.

Steve says RICHARD
MAHONEY GOT 15.

Ruth says DON'T
TELL ME I WON.

Steve says RUTH
GRIER GOT 18.

ALL say WOW.

Ruth shakes her castanet.

Mac says RECOUNT,
RECOUNT!

Steve says YOU ARE THE
CHAMPION, RUTH GRIER,

Ruth says I HAD A RECOUNT
ON MY FIRST ELECTION;
I'M NOT HAVING
ANOTHER ONE.

Rick says IF WE COULD
DO A COALITION,
WE COULD TIE UP THE
WHOLE LEGISLATURE.
AND YOU COULD BE THE
15 THAT DECIDES...

Mac says I DON'T WANT
A RECOUNT ON RUTH.
I DON'T BELIEVE
HE GOT FOUR.
[laughing]

Rick says I DON'T
BELIEVE THAT EITHER.
THAT WORRIES ME; THERE'S
SOMETHING WRONG.

Ruth says HOW MANY WERE TAKEN
OFF MAC FOR BAD BEHAVIOUR?

Steve says OH,
PROBABLY NONE.
HE WAS ACTUALLY REASONABLY
WELL BEHAVED TODAY, WASN'T HE?
LISTEN, BEST OF THE
SEASON TO EVERYBODY HERE,
AND THANK YOU FOR
PARTICIPATING AND BEING SUCH
GOOD SPORTS IN
THIS WHOLE THING.
IT'S A LOT OF FUN, AND I
SUSPECT WE'LL PROBABLY
END UP DOING IT
AGAIN NEXT YEAR.

Ruth says HAPPY NEW YEAR.

Steve says HAPPY NEW YEAR AND MERRY
CHRISTMAS TO EVERYBODY.
WELL DONE, RICK GREEN;
NICELY DONE.
AND THAT'S 4th
READING FOR 2001.
WE HOPE YOU HAVE A VERY
HAPPY HOLIDAY SEASON.
AND WE WANT TO LEAVE YOU WITH
THIS PROGRAM NOTE FOR 2002.
THIS IS 4th READING'S
10th SEASON ON TVO.
SO ON JANUARY 11th, WE'RE
GOING TO HAVE A SPECIAL
ONE-HOUR EDITION LOOKING
BACK AT THE HUGE CHANGES IN
OUR PROVINCE OVER
THE PAST DECADE.
THE 10th ANNIVERSARY
SPECIAL - MARK IT DOWN -
FRIDAY, JANUARY 11th,
2002.
SO, MERRY
CHRISTMAS, EVERYBODY.
HAPPY NEW YEAR;
SEE YOU NEXT YEAR.
[bell dinging]

Music plays and the end credits roll, as Steve and the rest continue the conversation.

Queen's Park Bureau Chief, Susanna Kelley.

Producer, Peter Harris.

Editor, Dean Henry.

A production of TVOntario. Copyright 2001, The Ontario Educational Communications Authority.

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