Transcript: Show #24 | Mar 20, 2001

A slate appears with the caption "The advice given in the preceding programmes is of a general nature only viewers should consult their own medical professional for medical advice specific to their circumstances."

The title of the show appears: "Your Health." Clips of the episode are displayed behind the title sequence.

Maureen says THIS WEEK

A woman says THE
PAIN IS ABSOLUTELY
OVERWHELMING.
IT JUST TAKES OVER
EVERYTHING.

Maureen says THE AGONY OF MIGRAINES.

A male guest says SO THE PROBLEM IS NOT
REALLY TO GET THE COLD FOR
TWO DAYS AND THEN SNIFFLING
A LITTLE SO.
THE PROBLEM IS IF THE IMMUNE
SYSTEM CANNOT GET SWITCHED
OFF, LIKE ARTHRITIS.

Maureen says THE IMMUNE
SYSTEM, DOES YOURS NEED A
BOOST?

Joe says I'VE CONSIDERED ALL OF
THIS, AND I'VE DECIDED THAT TEA
DRINKING IS A GOOD THING.

Maureen says AND JOE SCHWARTZ BREWS UP
THE HEALTHY BENEFITS OF A
CUP OF TEA.

(music plays)
The opening sequence begins.

Clips of different people flash against a grey background. A 30-year-old woman with shoulder length black hair looks through a microscope, a 30-year-old with very short black hair holds up her 1-year-old son, a pharmacist counts and organizes red-and-yellow pills, a surgeon cuts into the abdomen of a patient and, finally, a man wearing a ted tank-top lifts weights. An animated microscope, pill bottle, syringe, and small dumbbell fly around the screen.

The title appears: "Your Health."

Maureen stands in a wood-paneled studio with T.V. screens embedded in the walls. She is in her forties, with short wavy red hair. She wears a cream blazer over a bright orange blouse.

Maureen says HELLO I'M
MAUREEN TAYLOR.
PEOPLE WHO COMPLAIN ABOUT
THEIR MIGRAINES RECEIVE
LITTLE SYMPATHY.
AFTER ALL IT'S JUST A
HEADACHE, RIGHT?
WRONG.
MY GRAINS ARE A SERIOUS AND
DEBILITATING CONDITION.
AND A COSTLY ONE.
A RECENT STUDY FOUND 7
MILLION WORKING DAYS EVERY
YEAR ARE LOST TO MIGRAINES.
THIS WEEK YOUR HEALTH TAKES
YOU THROUGH DIAGNOSIS TO
TREATMENTS AND THE PAIN OF
MIGRAINES.

Georgina is in her thirties, with shoulder length curly red hair. She wears a gray blouse under a brown blazer.

She says THE PAIN IS ABSOLUTELY
OVERWHELM IT JUST FAKES OVER
EVERYTHING.
THE PAIN TAKES OVER EVERYTHING.
YOUR HEAD IS POUNDING.
YOUR ABSOLUTELY LIGHT
SENSITIVE.
YOU CAN'T TAKE OR BEAR JUST
EVEN A SPECK OF LIGHT.

A doctor says MIGRAINE HEADACHE IS AS
REAL A PHENOMENA AS
PNEUMONIA IS OR DIABETES IS.

He says to a patient WHAT IS YOUR HEADACHE
TODAY.

The man touches his forehead and says RIGHT UP IN THE USUAL
SPOT.
RIGHT UP IN THERE.

The doctor says RIGHT THERE.

The man says YEAH.

The doctor says NO NAUSEA.

The man says NOPE.

The doctor says NOT GETTING ANY OF THE
LIGHT SPOT.

A caption reads "Doctor Jan Carstonoiu. Chronic Pain Specialist."

Jan is in his forties, clean-shaven and with short straight brown hair. He wears glasses and a pale gray shirt.

Jan says WE KNOW FOR EXAMPLE THAT
AT THE BEGINNING PHASE OF A
MIGRAINE, THERE IS A
CONSTRICTION OF BLOOD
VESSELS TO THE BRAIN AND TO
THE LINING OF THE BRAIN, AND
THEN, WHEN PAIN COMES ON,
THE BLOOD VESSELS WILL
ACTUALLY DILATE.

Georgina says ALL OF YOUR SENSATIONS,
EVERYTHING THAT'S HEIGHTENED,
SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE A
NORMAL SCENT, BIT FOOD, FOOD
IS A NAUSEATING SMELL.
PERFUME JUST NEARLY
OVERWHELMS YOU.
JUST CAUSES YOUR HEAD TO
POUND.

Jan presses the patient’s upper lid and says ARE YOU TENDER THERE.

The man says NOPE.

Jan says THE EARLY PHASE OF
MIGRAINE WHICH MAY
BE ASSOCIATED WITH VISUAL
PHENOMENA.
IT CAN BE ASSOCIATED WITH
PARALYSIS.
I'VE SEEN ACTUALLY SOMEBODY
WITH MIGRAINE COME INTO THE
EMERGENCY ROOM AND LOOK LIKE
THEY WERE HAVING A STROKE.

Georgina says A BIT DISORIENTED.
YOU BECOME A BIT NAUSEOUS
AND EVENTUALLY THE PAIN TAKES
OVER.
I HAD SOMEBODY SAY TO ME
THAT SHE WANTED TO USE AN
ELECTRONIC DRILL AND USE IT
TO RELIEVE THE PRESSURE IN
HER HEAD.
AND I COULD RELATE TO THAT
WHEN SHE SAID THAT.

Jan says TRIGGERS FROM MIGRAINE
HEADACHE HAVE BEEN LOOKED AT
QUITE A BIT, AND SOME OF THE
TREATMENTS ARE BASED ON
ELIMINATING TRIGGERS.

Georgina says THERE'S DEFINITELY SOME
WINES I'VE NOTICED THAT
TRIGGER IT BUT IT'S NOT THE
CLASSIC RED WHITE, I BELIEVE
IT'S WINES HIGH IN SULFITES
WHICH IS A NATURAL
PRESERVATIVE IN WINES
SOMETIMES ADDED TO IT.
SO I HAVE PRESERVATIVE
SENSITIVITIES, SO, I TAKE A
LOT OF CARE.
I DON'T EAT SANDWICH MEATS,
THINGS THAT TEND TO HAVE A
LOT OF PRESERVATIVES.
I TRY TO BE CAREFUL ABOUT
MSG BUT THAT'S DIFFICULT
WHEN YOU EAT OUT A LOT.

Jan says THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO HAVE
GONE THROUGH DIETARY
ELIMINATIONS AND STILL GET
MIGRAINES.
JUST BECAUSE TWO EVENTS
OCCUR TOGETHER IN TIME AND
SPACE DOES NOT NECESSARILY
MEAN ONE CAUSES THE OTHER.
ON THE OTHER HAND IF I WAS A
MIGRAINE SUFFERER AND
NOTICED THAT EVERY TIME I
HAD RED WINE AND BEER OR
SULFITE CONTAINING FOOD OR
CHOCOLATE, OR OLD CHEESES, I
GOT A HEADACHE, WELL, I'M
GOING TO STOP EATING THOSE
THINGS.

Georgina says MY MOST FRUSTRATING
TRIGGERS REALLY ARE HORMONAL
CHANGES AND WEATHER.
WHEN THE TEMPERATURE IS
DROPPING DRAMATICALLY,
PARTICULARLY IF IT'S
ASSOCIATED WITH RAIN OR SNOW,
SOME KIND OF PRECIPITATION,
ABOUT 24 HOURS IN ADVANCE, I
GET VERY, VERY INTENSE
MIGRAINES.

Jan touches his patient’s forehead and says OKAY, RIGHT THERE.

The male patient says YEAH.

Jan says OKAY, SO IT'S RIGHT OVER
THE NERVE.

Jan says FREQUENTLY THE FIRST
PREVENTATIVE DRUG THAT I
WILL SUGGEST TO PEOPLE IF
THEY HAVEN'T TRIED ANYTHING
IS IN FACT FEVERFEW, THE
ONLY SIDE EFFECTS THAT I'VE
EVER SEEN ARE
ITCHINESS AND SOMETIMES
LITTLE SORES INSIDE THE
MOUTH.

The caption changes to "Georgina Kossivas."

Georgina says I TRIED ONE OF THE
NONMEDICINAL TREATMENTS
FEVERFEW AND I FIND THAT
THAT HELPED ME WITH MY
INTENSITY OF MY MIGRAINE.
DIDN'T DO A LOT WITH
FREQUENCY, BUT WITH FEVERFEW
YOU SHOULDN'T BE ON IT FOR
MORE THAN THREE OR FOUR
MONTHS AT A TIME AND I
FOUND IF I PUSHED THAT LIMIT
I STARTED TO GET HEADACHES,
NORMAL REGULAR HEADACHES.

Jan says THE NEXT CATEGORY WOULD
BE PAINKILLERS.
AND PAINKILLERS CAN INCLUDE
EVERYTHING FROM ASPIRIN-LIKE
DRUGS, TO NARCOTICS.
THE NEXT STAGE THAT I MOVE
ON TO IS A CLASS OF DRUGS
CALLED TRI-CYCLIC
ANTIDEPRESSANTS.
THOSE ARE MORE DIFFICULT TO
WORK WITH BECAUSE IT'S
LARGELY TRIAL AND ERROR,
WHICH DRUG YOU USE.

Georgina says I TRIED ONE OF THE
ANTIDEPRESSANTS AND YOU TAKE
IT AT A LEVEL A LITTLE LOWER
THAN A ANTI-DEPRESSANTS ABOUT THE
WOULD BE TAKEN FOR THAT
MEDICINAL PURPOSE.
MY MIGRAINES INCREASED.

Jan says TRI-CYCLIC ANTIDEPRESSANTS
HAVE SIDE EFFECTS AND
INCLUDE DRY MOUTH.
DIZZINESS.
ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU STAND UP
SUDDENLY, YOU KNOW THAT
FAINT FEELING YOU GET.
THOSE DRUGS CAN REALLY
AGGRAVATE THAT.
THERE ARE SOME PEOPLE WHO
REALLY SHOULDN'T BE TAKING
IT ELDERLY PEOPLE,
WITH HEART PROBLEMS, BECAUSE
THOSE DRUGS CAN CAUSE PALPITATIONS
IN THOSE
INDIVIDUALS.
THE TRIPTANS ARE THE LATEST
DRUGS TO ABORT MIGRAINE
HEADACHES.
THE WAY THESE DRUGS WORK IS
BY CAUSING THE ARTERIES TO
CONSTRICT.
THAT MEANS THAT THERE ARE A
LOT OF PEOPLE WHO COULD
POTENTIALLY HAVE TROUBLE
WITH THESE DRUGS.
COMMON SIDE EFFECTS OF THESE
DRUGS WOULD INCLUDE THINGS
LIKE FLUSHING.
A FEELING OF TIGHTNESS IN
THE THROAT OR CHEST.
AND UNFORTUNATELY, IN PEOPLE
WHO HAVE PRE-EXISTING HEART
PROBLEMS, SUCH AS ANGINA,
CORONARY ARTERY DISEASE, OR
PEOPLE WITH HIGH BLOOD
PRESSURE IF IT'S OUT OF
CONTROL, THESE DRUGS COULD
BE VERY DICEY.

Georgina says I STARTED USING THE
TRIPTANS AND STILL AM USING
THE TRIPTANS BUT THE ISSUE
IS MY MIGRAINES BECAME MORE
FREQUENT IS THAT MANY
DOCTORS WILL COUNCIL YOU TO
GO ON DAILY PREVENTATIVE
MEDICATION.
I'VE ACTUALLY EXPERIMENTED
WITH THREE DIFFERENT TYPES
OF PREVENTATIVE MEDICATIONS
THAT YOU TAKE EVERY DAY AND
UNFORTUNATELY MY SUCCESS
HASN'T BEEN VERY GOOD.

Jan says BOTOX HAS ONLY IN THE
PAST TEN YEARS HAS THERE
BEEN A REAL RESURGENCE OF
INTEREST IN THIS DRUG IN THE
TREATMENT OF MIGRAINE
HEADACHE.
YOU INJECT BOTOX INTO THE
MUSCLE AND WHAT HAPPENS IS
THAT THE NERVE THAT GOES TO
THE MUSCLE IS NO LONGER
EFFECTIVE AT CAUSING THAT
MUSCLE TO CONTRACT.
THIS CAN LAST UP TO ALMOST
FOUR MONTHS, LIKE ANYTHING
ELSE, IT'S GOING TO WORK
REALLY WELL ON SOME PEOPLE,
NOT SO WELL ON SOME PEOPLE,
AND SOME PEOPLE WON'T HAVE
ANY RESPONSE AT ALL, FINALLY,
THE KIND OF INJECTIONS THAT
IS NOT AS WELL KNOWN AS THE
USE OF NERVE BLOCKS.
IN THE TREATMENT OF
HEADACHE.
AND IN MY PERSONAL
EXPERIENCE, THAT WORKED WELL
OVER 90 percent OF THE TIME.

In the office, Jan says ARE YOU NUMB.

The male patient says YES.

Jan says HOW IS YOUR HEADACHE.

The man says IT'S NOT THERE NOW.

Jan says GONE.

The man says YEP, GONE.

Jan says THE LITTLE RESEARCH ON
THE SUBJECT THAT'S BEING
DONE IS POSITIVE.
BUT I THINK A LOT MORE HAS
TO BE DONE BEFORE WE CAN
RECOMMEND THAT KIND OF
TREATMENT ACROSS THE BOARD.

Georgina says YOU HAVE TO BE REALLY
PERSISTENT IN TERMS OF
TREATMENT OF THIS CONDITION.
SO IF YOU FIND SOMETHING
THAT WORKS THAT'S GREAT, BUT
IF YOU DON'T YOU HAVE TO
KEEP RESEARCHING AND TRYING
BECAUSE YOU JUST NEVER KNOW
WHAT'S GOING TO WORK ON YOU.
A LOT OF PEOPLE DROP OUT OF,
THEY JUST GIVE UP AND YOU
CAN IMAGINE WHY, THAT'S A
LONG FRUSTRATING PATH I JUST
DESCRIBED.
BUT I'M DETERMINED TO HAVE A
NORMAL A LIFE AS I CAN AND I
DON'T WANT MY CONDITION
GETTING IN MY WAY.
I ENJOY WHAT I DO.

A slate appears with the caption "For more information: The Migraine Association of Canada. 1-8000-663-3557. www.migraine.ca."

The health quiz appears on screen.

Maureen says IN THIS WEEK'S QUIZ IF
YOU'RE TRYING TO MAINTAIN A
HEALTHY DIET.
FAT INTAKE SHOULD EQUAL WHAT
PERCENTAGE OF YOUR TOTAL
DAILY CALORIES.
10 percent, 20 percent, OR 30 percent.
THE ANSWER LATER ON "YOUR
HEALTH."

Now Maureen sits in the studio with a guest.

Maureen says EVERYONE WANTS A LITTLE
IMMUNITY.
THE ABILITY TO RESIST AND
FIGHT OFF INFECTIONS AND
TOXINS.
OUR IMMUNE SYSTEM BEGINS
DEVELOPING IN THE WOMB.
AND WHEN IT'S WORKING WELL,
WE ARE HEALTHY.
THAT'S WHY VITAMIN COMPANIES,
WANT PEOPLE TO TAKE THINGS
THEY CLAIM CAN BOOST THE
IMMUNE SYSTEM.
LIKE ECHINACEA, AND VITAMIN
C.
DOCTOR JOSEF PENNINGER IS
AN EXPERT AND A RESEARCHER
A PRINCESS MARGARET HOSPITAL
IN TORONTO.
WELCOME.

Josef is in his late thirties, clean-shaven and with short curly brown hair. He wears a gray blazer over a gray shirt.

He says YOU'RE WELCOME.

Maureen says FIRST QUESTION,
CAN YOU GIVE US A SIMPLE
EXPLANATION HOW THE IMMUNE
SYSTEM WORK.

The caption changes to "Doctor Josef Penninger. Immunologist."

Josef says SO THE FUNCTION OF OUR
IMMUNE SYSTEM, IF IT'S A
VIRUS INFECTION, SO THE CELL
TO THE VIRUS.
IT SHOULD NOT BE HERE AND SO
THEY START EXPANDING.

Maureen says THE CELLS DO.

Josef says THE CELLS DO, SO THE
CELLS ARE THE T CELLS AND
THE B CELLS, AND SO THEY
START EXPANDING AND WHEN OUR
LYMPH NODES ARE SMELLING UP.
AFTER THE VIRUS OR THE
BACTERIA THEY HAVE TO STOP
AGAIN.
SO KIND OF IMMUNE SYSTEM IS
SET UP TO SEE INVASION
FOREIGN PATHOGENS, THE
VIRUSES, BACTERIA.
SO IF YOU CUT YOURSELF THE
CELLS COULD COME AND FIGHT
THE BACTERIA.

Maureen says THAT'S HOW IT'S
SUPPOSED TO WORK BUT
SOMETIMES IT DOESN'T BECAUSE
WE SUCCUMB TO AN INFECTION A
COLD OR FLU.
WHY IS THAT.

Josef says WELL, WE ARE PLAYING AN
EVOLUTION PING-PONG WITH THE
VIRUS ANYWAY.
SET UP TO GET INFECTION.
WE ARE SET UP, SO THE
PROBLEM IS NOT REALLY TO GET
THE COLD FOR TWO DAYS AND
SNIFFLING A LITTLE.
IF THE IMMUNE SYSTEM CANNOT
GET SWITCHED OFF, AND
MULTIPLE SCLEROSIS AND OTHER
NASTY THINGS LIKE ARTHRITIS.

Maureen says SO THOSE ARE
IMMUNE SYSTEMS THAT ARE
OVERACTIVE.

Josef says EXACTLY.

Maureen says I SEE.
OKAY, YOU WERE SAYING THAT
YOU ARE PRONE TO GETTING
COLDS OFTEN.

Josef says YES.

Maureen says IS THERE
ANYTHING YOU COULD DO ABOUT
THAT, ANYTHING YOU COULD
TAKE THAT WOULD MAKE YOU
LESS LIKELY TO SUCK CUP TO
THE COLD.

Josef says EVEN PEOPLE WHO THINK
IT'S GOOD TO GET COLDS.
BECAUSE IT'S NOT REALLY
PROVEN YET, IN MY OPINION,
BUT PEOPLE ARE SAYING IT'S
VERY GOOD TO PLAY IN THE
DIRT BECAUSE THEY GET
INFECTIONS.
AND INFECTIONS BOOSTING THE
IMMUNE SYSTEM AND HELPS US
NOT TO GET ALLERGIES, TO
STAY HEALTHIER.
IT'S NOT JUST AN INFECTIONS,
SOMEHOW IT SEEMS WE NEED
THEM.

Maureen says WE NEED TO WORK
THROUGH THESE.
I READ STUDIES KIDS IN DAY
CARE ARE LESS LIKELY TO GET
ALLERGIES LATER ON BECAUSE
THEY FIGHT ALL THESE
INFECTIONS.

Josef says IT'S DIFFICULT TO TELL,
THE ARGUMENT OF THESE PEOPLE
ARE WE ARE MUCH CLEANER NOW
THEREFORE WE GET MORE
ALLERGIES, BUT WHO KNOWS IF
200 YEARS AGO WE WERE MORE
CLEAN OR LESS CLEAN.
YOU CAN NEVER PROVE.

Maureen says WHAT ABOUT VERY YOUNG
CHILDREN BABIES, WE KNOW
THAT BREAST-FEEDING WE PASS
ON IMMUNITIES TO A BABY.
TELL ME ABOUT THAT.

Josef says IN THE BREAST MILK,
ACTUALLY MANY SUBSTANCES OF
THE IMMUNE SYSTEM.
SO THE CELLS OF THE IMMUNE
SYSTEM, SO EVERY LITER OF
BREAST MILK HAS MILLIONS OF
IMMUNE CELLS FROM THE
MOTHER.
TO ALSO HAVE ANTIBODIES, IF
THERE'S A BACTERIA THEY HOOK
ON THE BACTERIA AND SO IN
THE BREAST MILK THAT THE KID
CANS GET THE IMMUNE SYSTEM
OF THE MOTHER.
SO IF SOMEBODY HAS IMMUNITY
AGAINST VIRUS OR SOMETHING,
IT'S KIND OF PASSED ON TO
THE NEWBORN.
IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT
BECAUSE THE IMMUNE SYSTEM OF
THE NEWBORN IS NOT SET UP
PROPERLY, SO THEY NEED
PROTECTION.
AND THE NEED TO FROM THE
MOTHER AND BREAST-FED BABIES
ARE MUCH HEALTHIER, GET
MACHINE LESS INFECTIONS
BECAUSE THEY'RE KIND OF
PROTECTED FROM THE MOTHER.

Maureen says ALL RIGHT, LET'S TALK
THEN ABOUT I GET DOZENS OF
BOOKS, PROMISING THEY'VE GOT
THE IMMUNE SYSTEM CURE OR A
WAY TO BOOST YOUR IMMUNE
SYSTEM.
SO THAT YOU WON'T GET CANCER
OR DIABETES OR ANYTHING ELSE.
DO THESE THINGS WORK?

Josef says FIRST OF ALL I THINK
IMMUNE SYSTEM IS JUST, AN
EVOLUTION HAS BEEN SET UP TO
BEING IN PERFECT BALANCE SO
YOU DON'T WANT TO CHANGE THE
BALANCE BECAUSE YOU
OVER STIMULATE YOU MIGHT GET
DIABETES OR MULTIPLE
SCLEROSIS, THAT'S MY OPINION
ON THIS, CERTAINLY SOME
THINGS LIKE VITAMIN C OR A
WHICH ARE WORKING QUITE WELL,
AND DEFECTS ON THE IMMUNE
SYSTEM OR FUNCTIONS, BUT OF
COURSE THERE ARE OTHER
THINGS OUT THERE WHICH ARE
KIND OF COMPLETE SCAM.

Maureen says TELL ME ABOUT THOSE.

Josef says THERE WAS THIS VERY
FAMOUS EXAMPLE IN EUROPE
THAT THEY HAD A PROTEIN
PRODUCED APPARENTLY WAS
PRODUCED IN THIS ORGAN HERE,
AND SO THEY CLAIMED YOU CAN
USE THIS TO FIGHT AIDS, TO
FIGHT DIABETES.
ESSENTIALLY IT WAS CURING
EVERYTHING.
AND SO TURNED OUT THAT IT
DOESN'T EVEN EXIST, AND BUT
IT WAS PROMOTED BY A COMPANY
THAT MORE THAN A 100 MILLION
DOLLARS A YEAR, AND BECAUSE
IT WAS ALLOWED IN ONE
COUNTRY, AND AFTER THESE
PEOPLE REALIZED IT DOESN'T
EVEN EXIST, SO THE HEALTH
CARE SYSTEM DIDN'T REIMBURSE
IT ANYMORE.

Maureen says SO ONCE PEOPLE
HAD TO START PAYING FOR IT.

Josef says EXACTLY.

Maureen says A LOT OF
CANADIANS SPEND MONEY ON
THINGS LIKE VITAMIN C AND
ECHINACEA AND THEY THINK
THAT THEY'RE BOOSTING THEIR
IMMUNE SYSTEM, ARE THEY
REALLY CHANGING THEIR IMMUNE
SYSTEM?

Josef says THINGS LIKE VITAMIN C ARE
VERY GOOD BECAUSE THEY'RE
ANTIOXIDANTS SO THEY DO MANY
OTHER THINGS SO THEY'RE VERY
HEALTHY, VITAMIN E THE SAME.
SO, IN THAT SENSE, THEY
SHOULD TAKE THAT STUFF.
BUT THERE ARE MANY OTHER
THINGS WHICH ARE PROBABLY
NOT VERY USEFUL.

Maureen says ECHINACEA, WHAT DO YOU
THINK ABOUT THAT.

Josef says I'M REALLY NOT TOO SURE,
WE WOULD HAVE TO LOOK.

Maureen says BUT YOU DON'T TAKE IT AND
YOU'RE AN EXPERT.

Josef says I TRUST GET INFECTED
BECAUSE THIS IS HOW WE SET
UP.

Maureen says THERE ARE DRUGS
THAT WILL BOOST THE IMMUNE
SYSTEM.
UNDER WHAT CIRCUMSTANCES
WOULD YOU USE THOSE?

Josef says YES, THERE ARE SOME
CIRCUMSTANCES YOU WANT TO
BOOST THE IMMUNE SYSTEM LIKE
PATIENTS WITH AIDS, THAT
DON'T HAVE A GOOD IMMUNE
SYSTEM AND GETTING VERY SICK
BECAUSE THEY GET EASILY
INFECTED.
THERE ARE KIDS OUT THERE
WHICH DON'T HAVE GOOD IMMUNE
SYSTEMS.
DURING THAT CASE WE WANT TO
REALLY BOOST IT, YOU WANT TO
STIMULATE THE IMMUNE SYSTEM,
SO, SOMETHING WAS INFECTED,
HIV CAN FIGHT THE COMMON
COLD.
SO THAT'S THE A PROBLEM FOR
THEM.
BECAUSE ESSENTIALLY.

Maureen says AND I SUPPOSE
THERE ARE PEOPLE WITH
CERTAIN CONDITIONS MAYBE
MULTIPLE SCLEROSIS WHO
SHOULD NOT BE BOOSTING THEIR
IMMUNE SYSTEM WITH ANYTHING.

Josef says EXACTLY.
ONE THING OF COURSE WHERE
YOU WANT TO BOOST THE IMMUNE
SYSTEM WHICH WOULD BE
IMPORTANT IS TO BOOST IT IN
CANCER.
BECAUSE IMMUNE SYSTEM, SO
PROBABLY KILLS CANCER CELLS
BUT THE CANCER CELLS ARE
GROWING TOO UP AND THE
IMMUNE SYSTEM CAN'T KEEP UP
ANYMORE.
PEOPLE TRYING TO BOOST
IMMUNE SYSTEM TO FIGHT THE
CANADIANS AND SO, IT WOULD
BE BEAUTIFUL IF YOU HAVE A
CANCER LIKE A MELANOMA OR
BREAST CANCER AND CAN JUST
VACCINATE AGAIN.

Maureen says IS THERE
SOMETHING YOU'RE WORKING ON
AS WELL.

Josef says I'M TRYING TO DO THAT.
WE ARE TRYING TO COME UP
WITH NEW WAYS TO TRICK THE
IMMUNE SYSTEM SO THEY CAN
SEE THE CANCER, YES.

Maureen says ONE OF YOUR LATEST
RESEARCH DISCOVERIES WAS IS
THAT YOU FOUND THE ON-OFF
SWITCH FOR OUR CELLS. IS THIS FOR THE
T CELLS?

Josef says THIS IS FOR T CELLS,
WHICH MAKE THE ANT BODIES.
WHICH ARE TARGETING BACTERIA
FOR, MAINLY BLOOD CELLS, THE
RED BLOOD CELLS.

Maureen says AND WHAT DISEASES COULD
BENEFIT IF YOUR DISCOVERY.

Josef says WHICH IS THE ON AND OFF
SWITCH IS TARGETING IS WHICH
IS CALLED, SO THIS ONE IS
VERY OFTEN MUTATED IN CANCER,
TURNED ON, SO IN THAT SENSE
IT SHOULD TARGET MANY
DISEASES LIKE CANCER, THEN
THE IMMUNE SYSTEM AND
DIABETES MULTIPLE SCLEROSIS,
THEN WE WANT TO SAY NOW YOU
STOP, YOU DON'T ATTACK THE
PANCREAS ANYMORE.
THE PERSON SHOULD STOP
GETTING DIABETES.

Maureen says HOW LONG AWAY ARE WE TO
FINDING ITSELF TO A PATIENT.

Josef says WHEN WE FIND THINGS IT
TAKES FOREVER, AND IN OUR
LATEST STUDY, IT MAY BE
HOPEFUL BECAUSE
PEOPLE ALREADY WORKED ON
THIS FOR TEN YEARS.
WE JUST FOUND THE REAL IF
YOU THINK.
SO PEOPLE KNEW THE WORK OF
IT SO WE REALLY WANT TO AND
SO, YES, SORRY

Maureen says I WAS READING THAT, YOU
HAVE SOMETHING LIKE 126
FINDINGS OR DISCOVERIES
PUBLISHED IN SCIENTIFIC
JOURNALS AND MEDICAL
LITERATURE.
HOW MANY OF THOSE WHEN YOU
LOOK BACK, ACTUALLY EVER
PANNED OUT INTO SOMETHING
THAT ACTUALLY HELPED
PATIENTS BECAUSE A LOT OF
TIMES, IT'S A GREAT
DISCOVERY, BUT DOESN’T EVER GET
ANYWHERE.

Josef says 2 ONE THING WE ACTUALLY
FOUND WAS THIS PROTEIN WHICH
CONTROLS BONE LOSS.
IN ESSENCE THE INSULIN FOR
THE BONE.
CANCERS GOING TO THE
BONE.
WOMEN LAST LOOSE THE BONE.
ALL YOU NEED TO DO IS PUT IT
BACK AND IT COMPLETELY SHUTS
DOWN BONE LOSS AND IT'S LIKE
INSULIN.
ALL YOU NEED TO DO IS SHOOT IT UNDER THE
SKIN.
AND IF IT'S WORKING IT WILL
MOVE VERY FAST BECAUSE IT'S
A POTENTIAL, AND THE NEXT
GENERATION, BUT.

Maureen says THAT'S AMAZING AND YOU'RE
A YOUNG GUY.
I HAVE A FEELING THERE ARE A
LOT MORE DISCOVERIES IN YOUR
FUTURE.
THANKS VERY MUCH FOR TALKING
TO US.

Josef says YOU'RE WELCOME.

Maureen says COMING UP.

Joe says SCIENTISTS THINK THIS MAY
BE AN IMPORTANT WEAPON IN
THE WAR AGAINST HEART
DISEASE AND CANCER.

Maureen says JOE SCHWARTZ URGES US TO
DRINK TEA.

The opening slate appears again.

Now Maureen stands next to a screen with the caption "Health digest. Ear infection."

Maureen says NOW SOME STORIES
MAKING HEALTH NEWS.
PARENTS MAY BE ABLE TO TREAT
THEIR CHILDREN'S EAR INFECTS
WITH GOOD BACTERIA.
ALTHOUGH ANTIBIOTICS CAN
CLEAR UP AN EAR INFECTION
THEY KILL THE GOOD BACTERIA
IN THE EAR LEAVING THE CHILD
SUSCEPTIBLE TO A SECOND
INFECTION.
IN A SWEDISH STUDY CHILDREN
WITH ACUTE EAR INFECTIONS
WERE TREATED WITH A SPRAY,
CONTAINING FIVE BACTERIA
THAT ARE USUALLY PART OF THE
MIDDLE EAR.
THEY FOUND THOSE CHILDREN
WERE LESS LIKELY TO HAVE A
RECURRENT INFECTION THAN
CHILDREN GIVEN A PLACEBO.

The caption on the screen changes to "Soft drinks."

Maureen says AND PARENTS MAY WANT TO
LIMIT THEIR CHILD'S SOFT
DRINK INTAKE IF THEY HAVE A
WEIGHT PROBLEM.
CHILDREN WHO DRANK MORE THAN
ONE SWEETENED SOFT DRINK A
DAY HAD A 60 percent GREATER CHANCE
OF BECOMING OBESE.
AND THE SOFT DRINK LINK IS
INDEPENDENT OF THE FOOD
CHILDREN EAT, HOW MUCH
TELEVISION THEY WATCH OR HOW
MUCH EXERCISE THEY GET.

The caption on the screen changes to "Fatty food."

Maureen says IN OTHER NUTRITION NEWS, FAT
FOOD CAN MAKE YOU STUPID.
A STUDY IN TORONTO COMPARED
THE FUNCTION OF RATS ON A
HIGH-FAT DIET WITH RATS WHO
WERE FED LOW-FAT FOODS.
AFTER THREE MONTHS THE JUNK
FOOD RATS SHOWED SEVERE
IMPAIRMENT ON A WIDE RANGE
OF LEARNING AND MEMORY
TASKS.
RESEARCHERS SAY PEOPLE MAY
WANT TO RECONSIDER A POPULAR
WEIGHT LOSS DIET THAT
PROMOTES HIGH FAT AND LOW
CARBOHYDRATES.

The quiz appears on screen again.

Maureen says AND HOW MUCH FAT SHOULD BE
IN YOUR DIET?
ACCORDING TO THE CANADA FOOD
GUIDE FAT SHOULD CONSTITUTE
NO MORE THAN 30 percent OF YOUR
DAILY CALORIES.
THAT'S 65 GRAMS OF FAT FOR
MOST WOMEN AND 90 GRAMS FOR
MOST MEN.
LEGEND HAS IT 5,000 YEARS
AGO, THE CHINESE EMPEROR
SHEN NUNG WAS BOILING WATER
WHEN LEAVES FROM A TREE FELL
INTO HIS CUP.
THAT WAS THE FIRST CUP OF
TEA.
JOE SCHWARTZ SAYS WE OWE
EMPEROR NUNG A GRATITUDE.

The scene changes to Joe Schwarcz standing in a lab.

A caption reads "Doctor Joe Schwarcz, Ph.D. Professor of Chemistry."

Joe is in his mid-forties, clean-shaven and with short wavy gray hair. He wears a black suit, a black shirt and a silver gray tie.

Joe says I THINK WE SHOULD BE
CONSUMING MORE
EPIGALLOCATECHIN-GALLATE,
WELL THAT TONGUE TWISTING
NAME IS RAISE AGNEW EYEBROWS
BECAUSE SCIENTISTS THINK
THIS MAY BE AN IMPORTANT
WEAPON IN THE WAR AGAINST
HEART DISEASE AN CANCER.
AND YOU KNOW WHAT, YOU DON'T
HAVE TO SWALLOW ANY PILLS OR
GUZZLE CONCOCTIONS IN ORDER
TO GET IT ALL YOU HAVE TO DO
IS LIFT A CUP OF TEA.
YOU KNOW THIS CHEMICAL I
TOLD YOU ABOUT
EPIGALLOCATECHIN-GALLATE,
VERY INTERESTING.
IT'S PART OF A FAMILY OF
SUBSTANCES CALLED POLYPHENOLS.
AND WE'RE REALLY INTERESTED
IN THESE FOR VARIOUS
REASONS.
FIRST OF ALL,
EPIDEMIOLOGICAL STUDY WHICH
LOOK AT POPULATIONS AROUND
THE WORLD REVEALED THAT
THOSE PEOPLE WHO CONSUME A
LOT OF TEA, PARTICULARLY GREEN
TEA ARE LESS PRONE TO
CERTAIN TYPES OF CANCER.
THEN WE HAVE LABORATORY
EVIDENCE.
IN THE TEST TUNES IT IS
POSSIBLE TO PRODUCE FREE
RADICALS.
THESE ARE THE SAME KIND OF
SPECIES THAT THE HUMAN BODY
PRODUCES AND THEY'RE NOT
GOOD.
WE ADD TEA TO THESE TEST
TUBES AND THE TEA
NEUTRALIZES THE EFFECT OF
THESE FREE RADICALS.
THAT'S A COMFORTING IDEA.
THEN WE HAVE EVIDENCE WITH
LABORATORY ANIMALS.
TURNS OUT IF WE EXPOSE THEM
TO CANCER CAUSING SUBSTANCES
THEY ARE PROTECTED AGAINST
CANCER IF THEY HAVE CONSUMED
TEA.
WHAT ABOUT HUMANS THERE HAVE
BEEN INTERESTING STUDIES IN
HUMANS AS WELL.
CHINESE RESEARCHERS LOOKED
AT PRECANCEROUS LESIONS IN
THE MOUTH.
HALF OF THESE PATIENTS WERE
EXPOSED TO EXTRACTS OF GREEN
AND BLACK FEE, 2 OTHERS GOT
A PLACEBO AND TURNS OUT
THOSE WERE EXPOSED TO THE
TEA WENT ON TO PRODUCE FAR
FEWER CANCERS THAN THOSE WHO
WERE EXPOSED TO THE PLACEBO.
THAT'S INTERESTING STUFF.
IF YOU'RE STILL NOT PUTTING
THE KETTLE ON, JUST THINK OF
THIS, TEE IS ALSO VERY GOOD
AS A CAVITY FIGHTER.
DESTROYED THE BACTERIA ON
OUR TEETH WHICH CAUSE
CAVITIES.
IS THERE A DOWNSIDE, WELL,
TEA DOES HAVE CAFFEINE,
ALTHOUGH MUCH, MUCH LESS
THAN COFFEE.
SO I'VE CONSIDERED ALL OF
THIS AND DECIDED THAT TEA IS
A GOOD THING.
I LIKE GREEN TEA IT HAS MORE
POLYPHENOLS AND HAS A
INTERESTING TASTE WHEN YOU
GET USE IT TO.
SO STARTING IT DAY AND
ENDING IT WITH A CUPPA,
SEEMS TO BE A GOOD
SCIENTIFIC THING TO DO.

Maureen says THANKS JOE,
YOU'LL FIND HIS TEA
TRANSCRIPTS AND OTHER ADVICE
ON OUR WEB SITE.
VISIT WWW.TVO.ORG/YOU'RE
YOURHEALTH.
HERE'S A PEEK AND SOME OF
THE STORIES WE'LL HAVE NEXT
WEEK

A man in his late thirties says WHEN I HEARD I HAD
TO WAIT 10 MONTHS IT WAS A
SHOCK.
JUST NOT UNDERSTANDING ARE
THERE NOT ENOUGH DOCTORS,
WHY DO YOU HAVE TO WAIT TEN
MONTHS FOR AN OPERATION?

Maureen says NEED CATARACT SURGERY?
BE PREPARED TO WAIT.
WANT TO RECEIVE LASER
SURGERY TO CORRECT YOUR
VISION?
STEP RIGHT IN.
THE TALE OF TWO EYE SURGERIES,
NEXT WEEK ON YOUR HEALTH.
I HOPE YOU'LL JOIN US THEN
AND THANKS FOR WATCHING.

A slate appears with the caption "Email: yourhealth@tvo.org. Fax: 416-484-4519. Mail: Box 200, Station Q. Toronto, Ontario. M4T 2T1."

Music plays as the end credits roll.

Executive producer: Patricia Ellingson.

Producer: Cathy Perry.

Director: Michael Smith.

CEP Local 72m.

A production of TVOntario.

Copyright 2001. The Ontario Educational Communications Authority.

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