Transcript: Mary Lou Fallis | Dec 19, 1999

(Rhythmic string and wind music plays)

In animation, a word in pink slides by against a gray background as hands paint strokes using paintbrushes, play a piano, and touch as in a ballet performance.

The title of the show reads “Dialogue.”

The title of the episode pops up against an image of Richard Ouzounian and a guest talking in a restaurant as production assistants fix their microphones: “Mary Lou Fallis. Singer, Comedienne.”

Mary Lou and Richard sit in armchairs, on a Persian rug. The walls are vertically striped in burgundy and yellow, and there are several black and white paintings and black and white portraits of people hanging from the walls.

Then, Richard appears facing the screen. He's in his late forties, clean-shaven, with short side-parted blond hair. He's wearing rounded glasses, a gray suit, and a black t-shirt.

He says WELCOME TO
DIALOGUE.
I'M RICHARD OUZOUNIAN.
THERE ARE SOME NICKNAMES
THAT JUST DEFINE
THE PEOPLE THAT
THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT.
YOU SAY THE GREAT ONE,
YOU KNOW IT'S GRETZKY,
AND YOU SAY
PRIMA DONNA, YOU KNOW
THAT THIS
DIALOGUE
IS GOING
TO BE WITH MARY LOU FALLIS.

Mary Lou is in her fifties, with chin-length wavy blond hair. She’s wearing a black cardigan and a flowery black silk neckerchief.

Richard continues MARY LOU, WELCOME.

Mary Lou says THANKS, RICHARD.

Richard says THE PRIMA DONNA.
LET'S CUT TO
THE CHASE HERE.
HOW DOES IT FEEL
TO BE KNOWN
AS THE FUNNIEST
WOMAN IN CANADA,
WHICH YOU HAVE BEEN
CALLED BY MANY PEOPLE?

[laughing]

Mary Lou says IT'S PRESSURE.
IT'S PRESSURE,
I GUESS.

Richard says DID YOU EVER THINK THIS
WAS GOING TO HAPPEN
WHEN YOU STARTED TO GO
INTO YOUR HUMOROUS VEIN,
THAT IT WAS GOING TO HAVE
SUCH A LARGE SUCCESS?

Mary Lou says NO, I DIDN'T.
NO, I DIDN'T.
I HAD SOME INKLING, THOUGH,
BECAUSE AFTER I DID
THE FIRST PERFORMANCE OF
PRIMADONNA
AT STRATFORD, AH,
THESE 15 YEARS AGO OR MORE,
IT WAS A LITTLE LATE
NIGHT CABARET, AND IT
WAS VERY LATE AT NIGHT.
I THINK IT FINISHED AT
SORT OF QUARTER TO 2:00
IN THE MORNING, AND
SOMEBODY THOUGHT
TO HAVE A
RECEPTION AFTER.

Richard says OH, MY GOODNESS.

A caption appears on screen. It reads “Mary Lou Fallis. Singer, Comedienne.”

Mary Lou says AND I WENT TO THE RECEPTION
AFTER AND WHAT I FOUND WAS,
IS THAT,I OPENED MY MOUTH
AND SAID SOMETHING
AND EVERYBODY
JUST FELL ABOUT.
AND THAT'S THE FIRST
TIME - ALL OF A SUDDEN
I GOT DEFINED IN A
DIFFERENT WAY, I GUESS.

Richard says GEORGE KAUFMAN SAID, IF
PEOPLE KNOW THAT A COMEDY
IS A HIT, THEY GO
INTO THE THEATRE
AND START LAUGHING
AT THE PROGRAM.

Mary Lou says WELL, IT WAS SORT OF
LIKE THAT ACTUALLY,
AND IT WAS VERY
LATE AT NIGHT, TOO,
SO IT KIND OF TOOK
ME BY SURPRISE,
BUT IT WAS THE FIRST TIME I
REALIZED THAT THEN PEOPLE
THOUGHT THAT I WAS FUNNY
EVEN BEFORE I OPENED MY MOUTH.

Richard says NOW, FOR THE FEW UNLUCKY
PEOPLE OUT THERE WHO HAVEN'T
HAD THE PRIVILEGE OF
SEEING YOU PERFORM,
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A SERIES
OF SHOWS THAT YOU PUT TOGETHER,
ALL HAVE THE WORD
PRIMADONNA IN IT BECAUSE
YOU'RE ALL TALKING ABOUT
YOURSELF AS THE PRIMADONNA.
AND THEY'RE HUMOROUS TAKES
ON BEING A VOCALIST SINGING,
DOING ALL KINDS OF THINGS.
WHERE DID THE IDEA TO TURN
YOUR SERIOUS MUSIC
TRAINING INTO HUMOUR
FIRST BEGIN?

Mary Lou says IT BEGAN WITH THIS LITTLE
CABARET I WAS TALKING
ABOUT AT STRATFORD.
THERE WAS A MAN NAMED PETER
TAUSSIG WHO WAS DOING
A STRATFORD SUMMER MUSIC
FESTIVAL IN THE CITY HALL
THERE AT STRATFORD, AND
IT'S SINCE BEEN DEFUNCT,
BUT AT THE TIME, IT WAS A
TWO- OR THREE-WEEK FESTIVAL
CONCURRENTLY WITH THE
STRATFORD FESTIVAL.
SO HE ASKED ME IF I WOULD
WRITE A LITTLE CABARET SHOW.
HE SAID, I'VE SEEN YOU BE
FUNNY AT PARTIES FOR YEARS.
WHY DON'T YOU DO A LITTLE
TAKEOFF ON DIVAS AND
WHAT IT'S LIKE BEING A
DIVA AND IT WILL BE FUN.
SO IT WAS ACTUALLY SCARY
BECAUSE I'D NEVER REALLY
WRITTEN ANYTHING
BEFORE IN MY LIFE.
AND HE ASKED ME 18
MONTHS BEFORE THE FACT,
SO I THOUGHT, WELL, 18
MONTHS BEFORE THE FACT.
SURELY YOU CAN DO ANYTHING
IN 18 MONTHS BEFORE THE FACT.
ANYWAY, THE UPSHOT WAS, IS
THAT SIX WEEKS BEFORE IT WAS
TO OPEN AND I HADN'T PUT
ANYTHING DOWN ON PAPER.
IT WAS REALLY,
REALLY SCARY.
SO I REALIZED, I'D BETTER
GET DOWN TO IT AND -

Richard says YOU GOT ME ON
SOMETHING HERE.
YOU SAID YOU PUT NOTHING
ON PAPER SIX WEEKS.
THAT FIRST DAY YOU SAT DOWN
TO ACTUALLY WRITE SOMETHING.

Mary Lou says YES.

Richard says WHAT WAS THE FIRST FUNNY
THING OR PRIMADONNA THING
YOU EVER WROTE,
DO YOU REMEMBER?

Mary Lou says WELL, I REMEMBER SITTING
DOWN AND THINKING ABOUT
THE ENTRANCE FOR THE SHOW WHICH
WAS TO BE MY COMING THROUGH
THE AUDIENCE, AS
I NORMALLY AM,
WAS COMING HOME FROM A
SHOPPING TRIP WITH
THE KIDS' PAMPERS
AND THE GROCERIES,
MY HUSBAND'S DRY CLEANING,
AND ALL THOSE THINGS.
AND REALIZING THAT I WOULD...
I THOUGHT OF COMING
THROUGH THE AUDIENCE AND
THEN TRANSFORMING MYSELF,
SO THAT THE AUDIENCE COULD
SEE WHAT I WAS LIKE SORT
OF AN HOUR AND A HALF BEFORE
THE ACTUAL PERFORMANCE.
AND THAT WAS THE FIRST
THING I ACTUALLY WROTE,
PUT DOWN ON PAPER, ALTHOUGH
THERE WAS NO DIALOGUE.
THERE WAS NO WORDS TO IT.
AND I'D ACTUALLY CHOSEN SOME
OF THE MUSIC FIRST BECAUSE
I KNEW - AT THAT POINT ALL MY
HUMOUR WAS COMING DIRECTLY
FROM THE MUSIC SO THAT
IT WAS THE MUSIC
THAT GAVE THE HUMOUR.

Richard says DID YOU EVER HAVE ANY
EXTERNAL TARGETS YOU WERE -
I DON'T WANT TO SAY GOING
AFTER - BUT INSPIRED YOU,
PARTICULAR DIVAS
WHO YOU DECIDED TO
KIND OF TAKE THE
MICKEY OUT OF?

Mary Lou says WELL, THE THING IS,
IN A WAY NO,
BECAUSE I ADMIRE THEM.
IT MAY SOUND SUCKY TO SAY,
BUT I ADMIRE THEM ALL
SO MUCH, LIKE BEVERLY SILLS
AND MARIA CALLAS AND
ELLY AMELING AND ALL THOSE
PEOPLE OF MY GENERATION.
SO THAT I DIDN'T REALLY WANT
TO SEND THEM UP BECAUSE I,
IN A WAY, WAS TRYING TO BE A
DIVA SERIOUSLY FOR SO LONG.
BUT, NO, I THINK THAT - NO,
THERE WAS NOBODY EXTERNAL.
I THINK IF ANYTHING THE
MODELS OF MY COMEDY
CAME FROM PEOPLE WHO WERE
DOING COMEDY AT THE TIME,
CLASSICAL MUSIC
COMEDY AT THE TIME.

Richard says LIKE ANNA RUSSELL?

Mary Lou says ANNA RUSSELL,
WHO, BY THE WAY,
HAS BECOME A FRIEND
AND A BIT OF A MENTOR.
SHE'S A WONDERFUL PERSON.
SHE'S BEEN TO
ALL MY SHOWS.

Richard says BECAUSE SHE DOES
THIS SO WELL.
WERE YOU NERVOUS THE
FIRST TIME YOU EVER
PERFORMED IN
FRONT OF HER?

Mary Lou says I DIDN'T KNOW SHE WAS
THERE, THANK GOODNESS,
OR I PROBABLY
WOULD HAVE BEEN.
BUT HAVING TEA WITH HER,
IT'S VERY FUNNY HAVING TEA
WITH HER BECAUSE IT'S
LIKE LISTENING - I MEAN,
FOR THOSE OF YOUR
VIEWERS WHO KNOW HER,
SHE HAS THIS SORT OF LOW
WOW BLIMEY ENGLISH VOICE,
YOU KNOW, WELL,
DAR, YOU KNOW,
SO HAVING TEA WITH HER IS
LIKE LISTENING TO ONE
OF HER RECORDS, ACTUALLY.
BUT AT THE TIME I WENT
TO HAVE TEA WITH HER,
I WAS IN A SORT OF
CONFLICTED STATE BECAUSE
I'D DONE ALL THIS TRAINING,
ALL THIS CLASSICAL
MUSIC TRAINING FOR SO
LONG AND I THOUGHT,
WHAT'LL HAPPEN NOW IF I'M
SENDING UP THE VERY THING
THAT I'M TRYING TO DO.
SO SHE WAS GREAT.

Richard says WELL, WHAT WAS HER ADVICE?

Mary Lou says WELL SHE SAID,
WELL, DEAR, YOU KNOW,
PEOPLE WILL - SOMEONE
WILL SING AN ARIA
VERY BEAUTIFULLY, AND THEN
A FEW YEARS LATER SOMEONE
WILL COME ALONG AND SING THE
SAME ARIA EVEN MORE BEAUTIFULLY,
AND A FEW YEARS LATER,
EVEN MORE BEAUTIFULLY.
WELL, DEAR, I THINK
YOU'LL DO LOTS BETTER
WITH A BIT OF
NONSENSE, SHE SAID.
AND IT WAS KIND OF
GOOD ADVICE, I THINK.

Richard says NOW, LET ME
ROLL BACK A BACK,
BECAUSE YOU'VE ALLUDED AND
WE BOTH TALKED ABOUT
THE FACT THAT YOU HAD A GREAT
DEAL OF SERIOUS MUSICAL
TRAINING, BUT I'D LIKE TO
ACTUALLY START WITH YOUR
FAMILY, BECAUSE MUSIC HAS
ALWAYS MEANT A GREAT DEAL
TO YOUR FAMILY, SO CAN YOU
RECALL SOME OF YOUR EARLY
MUSICAL MEMORIES
GROWING UP?

Mary Lou says WELL, IT'S TRUE.
I COME FROM A
MUSICAL FAMILY.
MY GRANDMOTHER, WHO PASSED
AWAY A FEW YEARS AGO
AT THE AGE OF 96, WAS MY
FIRST SINGING TEACHER.
SHE ACTUALLY CONDUCTED
THE TORONTO SYMPHONY
WHEN SHE WAS 80 YEARS OLD.
THE FAMILY BOUGHT THE
DREAM AUCTION FOR HER
AND SHE ACTUALLY
CONDUCTED THE ORCHESTRA.
AND ANDREW DAVIS, WHO WAS
THE CONDUCTOR AT THE TIME,
HE LIKED HER SO MUCH THAT
HE ASKED HER TO COME BACK.
IT WAS A PAIR OF
POPS CONCERTS.

Richard says RIGHT.

Mary Lou says SO HE ASKED HER TO COME
BACK AFTER CONDUCTING
ON THE SATURDAY NIGHT.
HE SAID, JENNIE, COME
BACK ON SUNDAY AFTERNOON.
WE'D LIKE YOU
TO DO IT AGAIN.

Richard says REALLY?

Mary Lou says SHE WAS GREAT.
SHE DID VERY WELL.
MY MOTHER WAS A SINGER AND
A TEACHER OF CARL ORFF,
THE MUSIC FOR CHILDREN.
AND MY PARENTS WERE BOTH
IN THE MENDELSSOHN CHOIR.
AND MY SISTER, LOIE FALLIS,
IS IN MANAGEMENT
WITH THE TORONTO SYMPHONY.
MY HUSBAND PLAYS IN
THE TORONTO SYMPHONY.
NONE OF MY OTHER BROTHERS
AND SISTERS HAVE GONE
INTO MUSIC PROFESSIONALLY,
CERTAINLY IN TERMS OF
PERFORMING, BUT IT'S BEEN PART
OF MY LIFE FOR A LONG TIME.

Richard says WHAT WAS IT LIKE AROUND
THAT HOUSE GROWING UP?
I MEAN, DID YOU ALL
SIT AROUND AND GO-
HOW ARE YOU TODAY?
I'M GOING TO HAVE BACON
NO, I THINK I'LL HAVE EGGS
[laughing]

Mary Lou says WELL, ACTUALLY, MY MOTHER
USED TO DO THE CLEANING,
THE HOUSE CLEANING.
I CAN REMEMBER HER DOING THE
RUNS FROM “REJOICE GREATLY.”
WHICH, YOU KNOW, THE
ARIA FROM
MESSIAH,
AS SHE WAS VACUUMING.
REJOICE
[laughing]
I SORT OF THINK OF IT
WITH THE HOOVER GOING
IN THE BACKGROUND.
BUT CHURCH CHOIRS AND
THAT KIND OF THING,
WE ALL USED TO DO THAT,
AND WE ACTUALLY WERE ONE
OF THOSE FAMILIES THAT
SANG AROUND THE PIANO
ON A SUNDAY EVENING, HYMNS
AND THAT KIND OF THING.

Richard says WHAT WERE YOU FAVOURITE
THINGS WHEN YOU
WERE GROWING UP, MUSICALLY?

Mary Lou says TO SING?

Richard says YEAH.

Mary Lou says MUSICALLY TO SING, I THINK...
MY GRANDMOTHER USED TO GIVE ME
A SINGING LESSON AND A PIANO
LESSON EVERY SATURDAY,
AND THAT WAS MY VERY
FAVOURITE THING.
I'D GO DOWNTOWN.
I WAS ABOUT NINE OR TEN AND
I'D GO DOWN AND WE'D HAVE
A SINGING LESSON AND
A PIANO LESSON,
AND THEN IN THE AFTERNOON,
SHE WOULD TAKE ME TO SOME
KIND OF MATINEE PERFORMANCE
HERE IN TORONTO,
SO IT COULD HAVE
BEEN SWAN LAKE OR
AN OPERATIC PERFORMANCE.
OR WE'D GO TO SOME
RESTRICTED MOVIE THAT
I WASN'T SUPPOSED TO GO TO,
SHE'D TAKE ME - SHE WAS A-

Richard says A FREE SPIRIT.

Mary Lou says SHE WAS A FREE SPIRIT,
WAS MY GRANDMOTHER.
AND IN A WAY, YOU KNOW,
COME TO THINK OF IT,
I THINK THE PRIMADONNA
PERSONA IS REALLY VERY MUCH HER.
I THINK THAT THAT'S...
SHE WAS LIKE THAT.
SHE WAS VERY MUCH
LARGER THAN LIFE,
AND WAS CONSTANTLY SENDING
UP - SHE WAS A SINGER
AND A PIANIST AND AN ORGANIST
AND A CHOIR DIRECTOR,
AND A FREE SPIRIT,
AS YOU SAY,
AND I THINK IN A
WAY THAT WAS HER.

Richard says AT WHAT POINT DID YOU
MAKE THE DECISION TO GO
INTO MUSIC AS A CAREER
FOR YOURSELF?

Mary Lou says I'VE OFTEN
THOUGHT ABOUT THAT.
I DON'T EVEN THINK - I
THINK IT CHOSE ME RATHER
THAN MY CHOOSING IT, BECAUSE
IT JUST SEEMED THAT I
WAS ALWAYS MARKED THAT WAY,
TO HAVE A SINGING CAREER.
THERE WAS A TIME - MY
FATHER'S A DOCTOR AND THERE
WAS A TIME IN HIGH SCHOOL
WHEN I GOT VERY INTERESTED
IN BIOLOGY AND SCIENCE
AND I THOUGHT I MIGHT
HAVE GONE INTO MEDICINE.
BUT THAT WAS SORT
OF SHORT LIVED,
AND FOR A WHILE I WAS EVEN
IN A PHILOSOPHY COURSE,
A GENERAL ARTS COURSE
AT U OF T FOR A WHILE.

Richard says RIGHT.
WAS THERE FAMILY PRESSURE
FOR YOU TO BE THE SINGER?
PRESSURE'S
THE WRONG WORD.
WAS THERE FAMILY
ASSUMPTION?

Mary Lou says I THINK THERE WAS.
A LOT OF IT WAS
FROM MY GRANDMA
BECAUSE I SPENT
SO MUCH TIME
WITH HER GROWING UP.
SHE JUST SORT OF ASSUMED
I WOULD BE A SINGER AND
I THINK THAT'S SORT OF
THE WAY IT HAPPENED.

Richard says SO HOW MANY YEARS DID
YOU ACTUALLY TRAIN?

Mary Lou says WELL, I THINK I
STARTED FORMAL LESSONS
AT THE CONSERVATORY
WHEN I WAS ABOUT 14.

Richard says RIGHT.

Mary Lou says AND WAS A SCHOLARSHIP
STUDENT THERE FOR YEARS
AND DID PIANO AND
HARMONY AND THEORY,
AND THEN I WENT TO THE
FACULTY OF MUSIC AT
UNIVERSITY OF TORONTO AND
STUDIED UNDER - AND UNDER
IS THE OPERATIVE WORD, THE
GREAT IRENE JESSNER,
WHO WAS - HAD A FABULOUS
CAREER AT THE M.E.T.
SHE WAS SECOND MARSCHALLIN
TO LOTTE LEHMANN
FOR MANY YEARS, TAUGHT
TERESA STRATAS, OF COURSE,
MARK DUBOIS, MANY OF
THE SINGERS -

Richard says NOW, I'VE SO MUCH ABOUT
HER FROM OTHER PEOPLE.
WAS SHE VERY FORMIDABLE?

Mary Lou says SHE WAS TERRIBLY
FORMIDABLE AND TOOK US ALL
AS STUDENTS
EXTREMELY SERIOUSLY.
I REMEMBER WHEN I TOLD HER
I WAS GOING TO GET MARRIED,
I GOT MARRIED QUITE EARLY,
RIGHT OUT OF UNIVERSITY.
AND SHE WAS HORRIFIED THAT I
WOULD GET MARRIED RIGHT
OUT OF UNIVERSITY.
WHAT, WHY YOU WANT
TO GET MARRIED FOR?
WHY DON'T YOU DO
LIKE FOOL AROUND,
HAVE LOTS OF AFFAIRS.
DON'T GET MARRIED, DEAR.
[laughing]
AND SHE USED TO - THE OTHER
THING THAT I REMEMBER
ABOUT MADAM IS, SHE -
WEAR RED LIPSTICK.
NEVER BRIGHT ENOUGH
LIPSTICK ON STAGE.
NEVER BRIGHT ENOUGH.
SHE USED TO SAY
THAT TO TERESA, TOO,
AND I THINK TERESA
STRATAS WENT HER OWN WAY.

Richard says YEAH, NO LIPSTICK,
WIPED IT ALL OFF.

Mary Lou says NO LIPSTICK.

Richard says WHAT KIND OF REPERTOIRE
WERE YOU LEARNING
TO SING AT THAT POINT?

Mary Lou says WITH HER, IT WAS THE
SOUBRETTE, BECAUSE I WAS,
AT THAT TIME, THE ETERNAL
SOUBRETTE, WHAT CAN I SAY?
BUT I WAS LEARNING ALL
THE SOUBRETTE REPERTOIRE,
SO IT WOULD BE SARLINA,
ANYTHING THAT ENDED IN INA,
AND DESTINA, DARLINA,
SARPINA, ALL THOSE,
LIKE THE DOLL IN HOFFMANN.

Richard says DID YOU LIKE THOSE PARTS?

Mary Lou says YOU KNOW, SERIOUSLY -

Richard says TELL ME, NOW, COME ON.

Mary Lou says I THINK THAT COME
TO THINK OF IT,
I THINK THAT THAT MAY HAVE
TURNED ME OFF OPERA
AS A SERIOUS
CAREER IN A WAY.
ONE OF THE CHARACTERS IN
THE PLAY,
THE PRIMADONNA,
I DO A SEND-UP OF THE
PRIMADONNA, OF THE INAS,
OF THE SOUBRETTE ROLE, AND
I THINK THAT THAT WAS HOW
I SAW MYSELF CAST ALL THE
TIME, WAS AS A SOUBRETTE.
AND I THINK THAT I
DIDN'T WANT TO DO THAT.
I WANTED TO SING LUCIAS
AND TOSCAS AND ALL, OH,
AND MIMIS AND ALL THAT, BUT
I DIDN'T HAVE THE STATURE
BECAUSE IN A WAY AT THE TIME
THAT I WAS DOING OPERA,
AND STILL, IT'S STILL
A LITTLE BIT TYPECAST,
THAT IF YOU'RE SMALL AND
YOU'RE - AT THAT TIME
I WAS MUCH MORE PETITE
THAN I AM NOW,
BUT IF YOU'RE 5'2” AND
YOU HAVE BLUE EYES -

Richard says AND YOU'RE CUTE.

Mary Lou says AND YOU'RE CUTE,
REALLY, REALLY CUTE,
AND YOU DO THAT, THEN YOU
TEND TO BE ASKED TO DO
ALL THESE SOUBRETTEY
KIND OF PARTS,
AND I REALLY - I WASN'T
SORT OF TALL ENOUGH
OR DIDN'T HAVE A BIG ENOUGH
VOICE TO DO THE REALLY
DRAMATIC THINGS THAT I
HAVE MIGHT FOUND MORE
MEAT IN, MORE BITE.

Richard says WERE YOU ALSO EVER IN A
POSITION WHERE YOU WERE
IN ONE - AS WE KNOW, THERE'S
TWO KINDS OF OPERA PRODUCTIONS:
THERE'S THE LIVING
AND THE DEAD.
THERE'S THE NEW
INVENTIVE ONES AND THEN
THERE'S THE ONE WHERE
YOU GET THE SCENERY FROM
CLEVELAND AND THE DIRECTOR
FROM STUTTGART AND THE
CHORUS FROM DOWN THE BLOCK.

Mary Lou says AND THEY'RE ALL SINGING
IN DIFFERENT LANGUAGES.

Richard says ABSOLUTELY, AND YOU
PUT THEM TOGETHER.
[laughing]
WHAT KIND OF
OPERAS WERE YOU IN?

Mary Lou says PRETTY, PRETTY
TRADITIONAL PRODUCTIONS.
YOU KNOW, THE
DOLL IN
HOFFMANN.
ROSINA IN THE
BARBER OF SEVILLE.
ZERBINETTA, ALTHOUGH THE
SO THAT'S STRAUSS,
SO AT LEAST
WE'RE INTO THIS CENTURY.
IT'S INTERESTING,
THAT PARTICULAR ROLE,
THE ZERBINETTA ROLE, WHICH
I HAPPEN TO REALLY LOVE,
IT'S ONE OF THE FEW ROLES
WHERE IT'S ASSUMED THAT
THE SOUBRETTE WHO DOES IT HAS
QUITE A BRAIN AND A LOT OF
MUSICIANSHIP AND CAN SING
10 OR 12 PAGES OF ARIA
AND IT REQUIRES A LOT.

Richard says A LITTLE MORE CHALLENGING.

Mary Lou says IT'S A LITTLE MORE CHALLENGING.

Richard says NOW, WHILE ALL OF
THIS IS HAPPENING,
A LITTLE BIT OF ARTISTIC
DISCONTENT IS FERMENTING,
YOU'RE MARRIED AND YOU'RE
STARTING A FAMILY.
YOU HAVE ALWAYS BEEN VOCAL
ABOUT THE FACT THAT YOUR
FAMILY MEANS AN ENORMOUS
DEAL TO YOU AND YOU
PUT IT FRONT AND CENTRE.
THAT'S BEEN THE
CASE ALL ALONG?

Mary Lou says METHINKS, I MEAN, I DOTH PROTEST TOO MUCH.

Richard says PROTEST TOO MUCH?

Mary Lou says NO, I THINK PEOPLE MAYBE
TOOK THAT ANGLE ALL THE TIME.
I THINK THAT DEFINITELY AT
THE TIME - I WAS VERY YOUNG
WHEN I WAS MARRIED, 22, 23,
AND I THINK THAT THERE WAS
A POINT WHERE I REALIZED THAT
TO HAVE AN INTERNATIONAL
OPERA CAREER WAS GOING TO
TAKE ME AWAY MONTHS AND
MONTHS OF THE YEAR, AND IF I
WAS GOING TO START A FAMILY
AND BE THERE.
I MEAN, PEOPLE DO IT.

Richard says RIGHT.

Mary Lou says PEOPLE DO IT, BUT I THINK
WITH MY BACKGROUND AND
THE WAY I FELT ABOUT HOW I
WANTED MY FAMILY TO BE,
THAT'S JUST THE
CHOICE I MADE.
AND SOMETIMES YOU SAY,
WELL, WHAT COULD HAVE BEEN?
WHAT I MIGHT HAVE DONE?
BUT THAT'S WATER
UNDER THE BRIDGE NOW,
AND MY KIDS ARE
GETTING OLDER.
WHO KNOWS, MAYBE I'LL HAVE
LIKE BIG INTERNATIONAL
CAREER NOW, RICHARD.

Richard says RIGHT.
DOES IT MATTER TO YOU
THAT YOU HAVE LARGELY
BEEN A CANADIAN
PERFORMER?
IS THAT A GOOD
THING TO YOU?

Mary Lou says AHM, I THINK IT'S JUST
THE WAY IT'S WORKED OUT.
I'VE DONE WORK
IN THE STATES.
I'VE PERFORMED IN - I'VE
DONE TOURS OF GREAT BRITAIN
AND MAINLY BECAUSE
OF THE ENGLISH,
THE LANGUAGE BARRIER,
I WOULDN'T BE DOING
TOO MUCH OTHER
WORK IN EUROPE.

Richard says RIGHT.

Mary Lou says BUT I THINK I'VE ALSO
UNDERSTOOD THAT
THIS IS WHERE I'M FROM.
THIS IS MY ROOT, THIS
IS WHERE I PERFORM
AND THIS IS WHERE
I COME FROM.

Richard says ONE OF YOUR SHOWS THAT I'M
THE FONDEST OF IS THE ONE
YOU DID FOR
PRIMADONNA ON A
MOOSE
WHERE YOU MANAGED TO
COMBINE YOUR CHARACTER WITH
TOURING THE COUNTRY
AND TALKING ABOUT WHAT
CANADA WAS LIKE AND THAT
WHOLE FANTASY ECLECTIC PERIOD.
AND I WANT TO KNOW WHERE
THAT IMPULSE CAME FROM.

Mary Lou says WELL, THAT CAME FROM PARTLY
BECAUSE I HAVE TOURED
THIS COUNTRY SO MUCH.
I MEAN, I REALLY KNOW
THIS COUNTRY NOW
LIKE A POLITICIAN.
I MEAN, YOU SAY
DESTRUCTION BAY, YUKON,
I'VE PLAYED THERE.
I PLAYED FARO.
I PLAYED PICTON, NOVA
SCOTIA, PORT ALBERNI, B.C.,
CHURCHILL, MANITOBA.
I MEAN, ALL THESE
PLACES I'VE PLAYED.

Richard says OKAY, I'LL PUT
YOU ON THE SPOT.
WHAT'S THE WORST PLACE
IN CANADA TO PLAY?

Mary Lou says OH, COME NOW.
YOU CAN'T EXPECT
ME TO TELL YOU.

Richard says THIS IS ONLY IN
ONTARIO, COME ON.

Mary Lou says NO, I'M NOT
GOING TO SAY.
I'M JUST FAR
TOO -

Richard says COME ON.

Mary Lou says WELL, IT WAS ONLY
BECAUSE OF THE FACILITY.

Richard says OKAY.

Mary Lou says IT WAS A GYM AND THE
DRESSING ROOM WAS LIKE
A GYMNASIUM WHERE THE
VOLUNTEER FIRE DEPARTMENT
WORKED OUT AND WE HAD TO HANG
OUR COSTUMES ON THE BAR BELL,
AND IT WAS VERY, VERY
COLD BECAUSE THEY ONLY PUT
THE HEAT UP JUST BEFORE
OUR PERFORMANCES.
IT WAS IN FERNIE.

Richard says FERNIE, BRITISH COLUMBIA?

Mary Lou says YUP, FERNIE,
BRITISH COLUMBIA.
BUT THERE WAS A LOVELY
RECEPTION AFTER,
I HASTEN TO SAY.
EVERYBODY, THEY LOVED
THE PERFORMANCE.

Richard says I THINK WE'VE JUST
DISCOVERED THE KEY
TO YOUR CHARACTER.
YOU CAN BE EXTREMELY CANDID
ABOUT SOMETHING BUT AT
THE END YOU'LL
SAY, BUT THERE WAS
A LOVELY RECEPTION
AFTERWARDS.
[laughing]
SO YOU HAD SEEN
ALL THE COUNTRY,
BUT WHAT MADE YOU DECIDE
TO GO BACK IN TIME?

Mary Lou says WELL, I THINK IT'S PROBABLY
MY ADMIRATION FOR ONE OF
THE VERY FIRST CANADIAN
PRIMA DONNAS AND HER NAME
IS EMMA ALBANI, WHO DIED IN
ABOUT 1930, BORN IN 1870,
WHO WAS BORN IN QUEBEC, AND
SHE WAS THE FIRST CANADIAN
SOPRANO TO HAVE
INTERNATIONAL STATURE.
AND SHE WAS THE FIRST
CANADIAN TO SING AT
THE METROPOLITAN
OPERA IN NEW YORK.
A PERFORMANCE OF
OTHELLO,
AND SHE SANG AT COVENT
GARDEN FOR 20 YEARS.
SHE WAS VERY,
VERY FAMOUS.
BUT WHAT GAVE ME THE
IDEA FOR THIS IS,
I'VE DONE A SHOW ABOUT HER
LIFE THAT I DID
AT SHAW FESTIVAL, OH,
10 YEARS AGO NOW,
AND IT WAS ABOUT
EMMA TOURING CANADA,
WHICH SHE DID TWO OR
THREE TIMES IN
THE COURSE OF HER LIFE.
AND VAN HORNE, CORNELIUS
VAN HORNE FROM THE RAILWAY,
I GUESS IT WOULD BE
CPR AT THAT TIME,
GAVE HER HER OWN RAILWAY CAR
AND SHE TOURED THE COUNTRY
AND JUST STOPPED AT ANY
PLACE THAT WAS LARGE ENOUGH
TO SUPPORT A CONCERT
AND SEEMED TO WANT HER.
SO IT WAS IN ADMIRATION
OF EMMA, REALLY,
WHO REALLY TOURED THIS
COUNTRY VERY EARLY ON,
AND THAT WAS WHERE THE IDEA
FOR
PRIMADONNA ON A MOOSE.
SHE TRAVELLED BY
RAILWAY CAR.
I TRAVELLED BY MOOSE,
BECAUSE I THOUGHT IT WAS -

Richard says MORE APPROPRIATE AND FUNNIER.

Mary Lou says YEAH, I WAS GOING TO SAY,
THE COMIC POTENTIAL WAS MORE.

Richard says NOW, ONE OF THE OTHER
THINGS YOU'VE DONE A LOT OF
IS BIOGRAPHIES OF
NOT-SO-FAMOUS WOMEN
WHO SHOULD HAVE
BEEN FAMOUS.

Mary Lou says YES.

Richard says IN THE WORLD OF
CLASSICAL MUSIC.
WHAT'S YOUR FAVOURITE
OF ALL OF THOSE?

Mary Lou says I THINK Mrs. BACH.
I LIKE Ms. MOZART, WHO WAS
MOZART'S OLDER SISTER
WHO NEVER HAD THE CAREER
SHE SHOULD HAVE HAD,

Richard says DID SHE USED TO
DATE SALIERI?
NO, I DON'T THINK
THAT WAS IT.
[laughing]

Mary Lou says SHE AND SALIERI,
THEY DID HIM IN.
THAT'S ANOTHER PLAY.

Richard says ANYWAY, Mrs. BACH, WHY
DO YOU LOVE HER SO MUCH?

Mary Lou says Mrs. BACH, BECAUSE I GET
TO SING A LOT OF BACH'S MUSIC,
BUT WITHOUT ALL
THE REVERENCE
THAT'S USUALLY
ASSOCIATED WITH BACH.
I THINK THAT WHEN
WE THINK OF BACH,
WE THINK
THE MAGNIFICAT.
WE THINK OF ALL THOSE
CANTATAS AND WE SORT
OF GENUFLECT AT THE
BUST OF BACH.
I MEAN, BACH WAS IT.
THE BEGINNING, THE END,
THE ALPHA AND OMEGA.
HE WAS JUST SORT OF
IT, AND IS FOR ME,
IN TERMS OF COMPOSERS.
AND WHAT'S KIND OF FUN IS TO
TAKE THE MICKEY OUT OF HIM
IN TERMS OF BEING HIS WIFE,
SO IF YOU'RE HIS WIFE,
YOU SORT OF KNOW
WHAT HE WAS LIKE.

Richard says RIGHT.

Mary Lou says SO I WAS ABLE TO APPROACH
THE MUSIC OF BACH AND
HIS STORY THROUGH HER LIFE
AND WHAT HE WAS REALLY LIKE.

Richard says AND IN EFFECT YOU WERE
STILL CARRYING THE DRY
CLEANING IN AND DOING ALL
THE STUFF YOU USED TO DO.

Mary Lou says WELL, IN A WAY, YES,
BECAUSE WHAT SHE DID IN
THIS SHOW, THE PREMISE
OF THIS SHOW IS THAT,
WELL, IF YOU BELIEVE THAT,
WOMEN WERE IN GREAT SHAPE.
SHE HAS HER OWN
TELEVISION SHOW IN 1747.
AND SHE'S AN EARLY
BROADCASTER.

Richard says OF COURSE.

Mary Lou says ALL THE CAMERAS FUELED BY
CANDLES, IT'S THAT EARLY.
AND SO SHE HAS HER OWN SHOW
WHERE SHE - AND SHE HAD
TO GO BACK TO WORK BECAUSE
HER HUSBAND'S SALARY
GOT FROZEN AT THE CHURCH.
AND SO, SHE HAS TO GO BACK
TO HER EARLIER CAREER
AS A BROADCASTER, AND SO
SHE HAS SORT OF AN EARLY
OPRAH WINFREY KIND OF
SHOW, CHAT SHOW.

Richard says RIGHT.

Mary Lou says WHERE SHE SELLS HER
HUSBAND'S MUSIC AND HAS
GUESTS ON AND HAS A LITTLE
KEYBOARD CORRESPONDENCE COURSE.

Richard says DIAL 1-800-BRANDENBURG?
[laughing]

Mary Lou says THAT'S EXACTLY RIGHT,
AND AN AEROBIC'S
CALLED ANNA-ROBICS.
IT'S BAD.
I'M TELLING YOU, IT'S BAD,
AND IT'S DONE TO -

Richard says YOUR PUNS ARE LEGENDARY,
SO THAT'S GOOD.

Mary Lou says TO THE BRANDENBURG NO. 2,
DA-DA-DUM, DA DA
REACH, DA DA DUM
ANYWAY, IT'S QUITE SILLY, BUT
I'M QUITE FOND OF HER.
AND ACTUALLY THERE'S
A BACH YEAR COMING UP,
SO ANNA MAGDALENA MAY
BE RESURRECTED A BIT.

Richard says OH, GOOD.
THAT'S GOOD.
NOW, THE OTHER THING YOU'RE
ABOUT TO EMBARK ON THAT
SOUNDS A BIT BIZARRE BUT
WHEN EVERYBODY HEARS ABOUT IT,
THEY GO, WHAT
PERFECT CASTING,
IS YOU'RE ABOUT TO PLAY
THE FAIRY GODMOTHER IN
ROSS PETTY'S ANNUAL
CHRISTMAS PANTO,
AND THIS YEAR
IT'S
CINDERELLA.
NOW, HOW DID
THIS HAPPEN?

Mary Lou says WELL, I'M NOT
EXACTLY IN SHOCK,
BUT I WAS QUITE
SURPRISED.
ROSS AND KAREN, KAREN
KAIN, ROSS'S WIFE,
CAME TO THE SHOW I DID AT
CANADIAN STAGE THIS PAST SUMMER,
AND I WAS DOING A RUN OF
ONE OF MY
PRIMADONNA
SHOWS.
AND WE WENT OUT FOR A DRINK
AFTERWARDS AND THEY SAID
THEY'D ENJOYED THE SHOW, AND I
HADN'T SEEN THEM IN A WHILE.
WE HAD A NICE CHAT.
AND THEN ABOUT A WEEK LATER,
ROSS CALLED UP AND SAID,
I WAS JUST WONDERING IF
YOU'D BE INTERESTED IN DOING
A FAIRY GODMOTHER
IN
CINDERELLA.
AND I THOUGHT ABOUT
IT, AND I THOUGHT, YES!
YES, BECAUSE KAREN WAS IN
ONE OF THESE, SO I THOUGHT,
I MEAN, IF KAREN
CAN DO IT, WHY NOT?
AND WHAT BETTER FOR SORT OF
AN INGENUE AT MIDLIFE THAN
TO DO FAIRY GODMOTHER, SORT
OF EASES ME INTO OLDER PARTS.

Richard says OH!

Mary Lou says SO I THOUGHT IT WAS KIND OF
NEAT, AND THE CAST, I MEAN,
I'VE WORKED WITH ALMOST
EVERYBODY BEFORE IN THE CAST.
AND SO I'M REALLY
DELIGHTED WITH THAT.

Richard says WELL, THE COMBINATION
OF THE PRIMADONNA MEETS
Mr. DRESSUP IS
KIND OF EXCITING,
WITH ERNIE COOMBS
THERE, AS WELL.

Mary Lou says WELL, I THINK ROSS HAS
SAID THERE MAY BE LIKE
A LITTLE ROMANTIC
INTEREST?

Richard says REALLY?

Mary Lou says WITH Mr. DRESSUP, IF THAT
ISN'T TOO OVER THE TOP.

Richard says WELL, I DON'T KNOW
IF WE CAN ASPECT THAT,
THE TICKLE TRUNK
CAN ONLY GO SO FAR.
[laughing]
BUT WHAT ARE YOUR MEMORIES
OF FAIRY GODMOTHERS?
DO YOU THINK OF THE ONE
FROM THE DISNEY CARTOON
OR OTHER VERSIONS?

Mary Lou says I THINK OF THE FAIRY
GODMOTHER IN THAT -
THE SORT OF PLUMPY ONE.

Richard says BIBBITY BOBBITY BOO ONE?

Mary Lou says BIBBITY BOBBITY BOO AND
SHE'S SORT OF PLUMP AND HAS
GREY HAIR AND SORT OF
WARM AND APPLE-CHEEKED
AND QUITE LOVELY.

Richard says I THINK IT WAS VERNA
FELTON, IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN,
WAS THE VOICE IN IT.

Mary Lou says THE VOICE.

Richard says YEAH, YEAH.

Mary Lou says YES.
WELL, THAT'S
SORT OF MY IDEA.

Richard says OKAY.

Mary Lou says ROSS HAS MORE OF AN IDEA OF
MY PLAYING IT MORE LIKE
A DIVA THAT IS SORT OF A
PRIMADONNA CHARACTER THAT
I CAN TAKE, THE ESSENCE
OF THE PRIMADONNA
THAT I TAKE INTO THIS SHOW.

Richard says NOW, IS YOUR MAGIC
GOING TO WORK?
ARE YOU GOING TO
BE SUCCESSFUL?

Mary Lou says OF COURSE.
OF COURSE, OF COURSE, AND
THERE'S LAURA BERTRAM WHO'S
DOING CINDERELLA AND I'VE
ALREADY - FROM
READY OR NOT,
AND WE'VE DONE - I'VE
SEEN HER RECENTLY
AND SHE'S QUITE GORGEOUS.
IT WON'T TAKE MUCH WORK
TO SCRUB HER UP AT ALL.

Richard says ARE YOU GOING TO TURN THE
SIX WHITE MICE INTO HORSES?

Mary Lou says WELL, I'M
AFRAID I JUST -

Richard says IF THEY BEHAVE WELL.

Mary Lou says IF THEY BEHAVE WELL.

Richard says OKAY.

Mary Lou says I HEAR THERE'S SOME
SPECTACULAR ENTRANCE THEY
HAVE PLANNED FOR ME, WHICH
HAS SOMETHING TO DO WITH -
I DON'T KNOW -
FLYING MACHINES.

Richard says OR THE RIDE THE
VALKYRIES OR SOMETHING.
AND THE OTHER QUESTION IS,
ARE YOU GOING TO GET TO SING?
ARE WE GOING
TO HEAR -

Mary Lou says I HOPE SO, OH,
YES, DEFINITELY.

Richard says THE FALLIS TRILL.

Mary Lou says I'VE TOLD ROSS THAT, UNLESS
THERE'S A BIG NUMBER FOR ME
AT THE END OF THE FIRST
ACT, HE SAID, YEAH.

Richard says DO YOU THINK YOU'LL BE
PROBABLY SINGING POP
OR MUSICAL THEATRE
OR OPERA OR WHAT?

Mary Lou says I THINK IT WELL BE
MORE OPERA BECAUSE OF -
WELL, THIS FAIRY
GODMOTHER SINGS OPERA.
I DON'T THINK IT WILL BE POP
BECAUSE THAT'S NOT MY THING.
FOR ALL THAT EVERYBODY DOES
CROSSOVER AND IF PEOPLE -
I THINK IT JUST
SOUNDS BAD IF PEOPLE
TRY TO DO SOMETHING THAT THEY
REALLY DON'T FEEL INSIDE.

Richard says SO YOU DON'T LIKE THOSE
ALBUMS LIKE DAME KIRI
DOES IGGY POP AND
THINGS LIKE THAT?

Mary Lou says WELL, SHE CAN DO
WHAT SHE WANTS.

Richard says SHE CAN DO WHAT SHE
WANTS, BUT NOT YOU.

Mary Lou says BUT SHE'S A GREAT
ARTISTE IS KIRI.

Richard says OKAY.

Mary Lou says BUT FOR ME, NO, AND IF I
TRY TO DO JAZZ OR TRY
TO DO STUFF LIKE THAT, DIANA
KRALL KIND OF STUFF,
IT DOESN'T COME
OUT RIGHT.

Richard says THIS IS GOOD.
NOW, QUESTION ABOUT
MAKING A LIFE IN MUSIC.
THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF
ATTENTION RECENTLY ABOUT,
CAN MUSICIANS MAKE
A DECENT LIVING?
ARE THEY TREATED
WELL IN CANADA?
IS IT POSSIBLE TO HAVE A
CAREER AND HAVE
A GOOD LIFE IN CANADA?
YOU'VE BEEN TRYING
FOR MANY YEARS.
WHAT'S THE ANSWER?
IS IT?

Mary Lou says YES.
OF COURSE IT IS.
I AM NOT A WEALTHY
PERSON AND MY HUSBAND'S
IN THE TORONTO SYMPHONY
AND THERE'S JUST BEEN
LABOUR DIFFICULTIES
AND EVERYTHING THERE.
BUT I WOULD STAY HERE.
I DO TOURING IN THE
STATES AND SOME STUFF
IN EUROPE, BUT
I'M OKAY.
YES, YOU CAN MAKE A
LIVING AND DO WELL.
I ALSO TEACH.
I'VE STARTED TEACHING AT
UNIVERSITY THIS YEAR
AND THAT IS ANOTHER PART -
AT THIS POINT IN MY LIFE,
IT'S ANOTHER PART OF MY
LIFE THAT I'M REALLY,
REALLY ENJOYING.
I DIDN'T EXPECT TO AS MUCH,
BUT I AM LOVING THAT.

Richard says ARE YOU IRREVERENT
IN THE CLASSROOM?

Mary Lou says THEY TELL ME I'M
A BIT IRREVERENT.
I THINK IT'S GOOD FOR THE
HALLS OF ACADEME TO HAVE
A FEW PEOPLE THAT GENTLY
DISTURB, SHALL WE SAY.
SHAKE IT UP A BIT AND
ALSO FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE
OUT THERE DOING IT.
I HAPPEN TO BE AT UNIVERSITY
OF WESTERN ONTARIO AND
THE VOICE FACULTY THERE,
QUITE WONDERFUL IN A WAY
BECAUSE MOST OF US
THERE ARE PERFORMERS.
TED BAIRD, KEVIN MCMILLAN,
MARCIA SWANSTON,
A LOT OF PEOPLE THERE
THAT ARE REAL PERFORMERS.
AND WHO ARE OUT THERE
DOING IT, STILL, YEAH.

Richard says IF SOMEONE, ONE OF YOUR
STUDENTS COMES ALONG,
MALE OR FEMALE, AND SAYS,
I THINK I WANT TO
DEVOTE MY LIFE TO MUSIC.
WHAT WOULD YOU
SAY TO THEM?

Mary Lou says GO AHEAD.
YEAH, GO AHEAD BECAUSE IT
DEMANDS EVERYTHING OF YOU,
SPIRITUALLY,
EMOTIONALLY, PHYSICALLY,
AND IT'S LIKE DOING A PLAY
OR GETTING INTO SCRIPTURE OR,
NOT TO SOUND TOO
HEAVY HANDED ABOUT IT,
BUT IT'S JUST THAT IT'S
A GOOD PROCESS,
AND IT'S A GOOD STUDY, AND
IT USES UP EVERYTHING.
AND EVEN IF YOU DON'T MAKE
A CAREER AS A PERFORMER,
IF YOU STUDY MUSIC SERIOUSLY
FOR FOUR OR FIVE YEARS,
IT'LL LEAD YOU IN
TREMENDOUS DIRECTIONS,
AND I DON'T THINK IT
WOULD EVER BE WASTED.

Richard says AND WHAT'S THE NEXT THING
THAT WE'RE GOING TO SEE
MARY LOU FALLIS DO
AFTER
CINDERELLA?
IS THERE GOING TO BE ANOTHER
INCREDIBLE COMIC CREATION
OUT OF YOUR BRAIN, OR
WILL THE PRIMADONNA
GO TO MARS, OR WHAT?

Mary Lou says THE PRIMADONNA, I THINK,
IS ABOUT TO DO A BOOK
CALLED
PRIMADONNA'S
GUIDE TO CANADA,
SINCE I'VE ACTUALLY TOURED
THE COUNTRY SO MUCH.
I'M DOING LITTLE
DIVA SLOTS ON RADIO,
ON SHELAGH ROGERS' SHOW.

Richard says TAKE FIVE.

Mary Lou says TAKE FIVE, AND FROM THAT,
I NOW HAVE 25 OR 30
LITTLE DIARY ENTRIES AND
FROM VARIOUS PLACES IN THE
COUNTRY, AND I'M THINKING
OF LETTING PEOPLE KNOW
WHERE THEY CAN GET GOOD
FALSE EYELASHES IN TIMMINS.
[laughing]
WHAT STAYS OPEN LATE
AT NIGHT IN WOLFVILLE.

Richard says AND HOW TO COPE WITH FERNIE.

Mary Lou says OH, COME ON, I FEEL REALLY
BADLY ABOUT THAT NOW.

Richard says AND I THINK THAT'S PROBABLY
ABOUT THE ONLY THING
YOU'LL EVER FEEL BADLY
ABOUT IN YOUR LIFE.
MARY LOU FALLIS, I LOOK
FORWARD TO SEEING YOU
AS THE FAIRY GODMOTHER
IN
CINDERELLA,
AND THANK YOU FOR
EVERYTHING AND THANK YOU
FOR BEING HERE TODAY.

Mary Lou says THANKS, RICHARD, IT WAS FUN.

Richard faces the screen and says
FOR
DIALOGUE, I'M
RICHARD OUZOUNIAN.
GOODBYE FOR NOW.

Music plays as the end slate reads “Special thanks to Top O’ the Senator.”

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