Transcript: Media Communications #1 | Mar 31, 1999

(music plays)

The opening slate pops up with a countdown timer from 10 seconds. A title reads “TVO’s Virtual Classroom. Get connected.” The “V” in “Virtual” is a tick, the “A” in “classroom” is an at sign with an extended loop that turns into a power cord with a plug at the end, and the first “O” in “classroom” is a spinning globe.

Next, a new slate shows two hands, one on top of the other and reads “The ‘Virtual’ Talk Show!”

Missus UJ appears on screen. She’s in her forties, with shoulder-length curly blond hair. She’s wearing a beige blazer over a black blouse and a necklace.

She says HI, AND WELCOME
TO LANGUAGE ALIVE.
AND I'M Mrs. UJ.
AND I'M VERY HAPPY TO BE BACK
TO DO A MINI SERIES WITH YOU.
WE'RE CALLING IT THE VIRTUAL
TALK SHOW BECAUSE WE ARE GOING
TO BE DOING LOTS OF STUFF.
AND THE WHOLE PROJECT, BY THE
END OF IT, IS GOING TO GET
YOU READY TO DEVELOP AND
CREATE YOUR OWN TALK SHOW.
IT'S ALL ABOUT ORAL VISUAL
COMMUNICATIONS, WHICH IS THAT
BIG CHUNK ON YOUR
NEW REPORT CARD.
AND WE ARE GOING TO COVER A
LOT OF THOSE EXPECTATIONS
FOR YOU AND FOR YOUR
TEACHERS IN THIS SERIES.
NOW, TODAY, WE'RE GOING TO
BE LEARNING ALL ABOUT GOOD
INTERVIEW SKILLS.
AND ON WEDNESDAY, WE'RE GOING
TO BE DOING AN ACTUAL TALK SHOW,
WHERE I AM GOING TO BE THE
HOST OF THE VIRTUAL TALK SHOW.
AND ON FRIDAY, WE ARE GOING
TO BE VIEWING AND ANALYZING
SOME ACTUAL TALK SHOWS
DONE BY MY STUDENTS.
AND THEN YOU ARE GOING TO BE
WORKING ON A PLANNING SHEET
THAT IS GOING TO GET YOU UP
TO CREATING YOUR VERY OWN
TALK SHOW.
SO WE HAVE A VERY, VERY
BUSY WEEK AHEAD OF US.
THERE WILL BE SOME HOMEWORK,
AND THAT IS CALLED
THE VIRTUAL CHALLENGE.
AND YOU WILL HAVE A COUPLE OF
EVENINGS TO DO IT EACH TIME.
AND I THINK YOU'LL HAVE
FUN DOING THAT, TOO.
NOW, LET'S JUST TAKE A
LOOK AT A COUPLE OF THINGS.
FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO WERE
WITH ME LAST YEAR ON LANGUAGE
ALIVE, I INTRODUCED YOU
TO A TERM CALLED 'THE BUZZ'.

A hand-written blue sheet of paper pops up. It reads “The Buzz! Quick talk and Partners.”

She continues
NOW THE BUZZ MEANS QUICK TALK.
I'LL SAY WE'VE GOT A FEW
MINUTES TO WORK WITH YOUR
TELEPHONE PARTNER, TO DISCUSS
AN IDEA, THEN YOU WILL CALL
IN YOUR ANSWERS.
SO THAT'S THE BUZZ, AND
THAT'S WHAT IT MEANS.
ALSO BECAUSE WE ARE WORKING
ON ORAL COMMUNICATIONS,
IT'S GOING TO BE VERY IMPORTANT
FOR YOU TO PRACTICE GOOD
TELEPHONE SKILLS SO WE
CAN START WITH THAT.
WHEN YOU ARE CALLING IN, I'LL
SAY, I HAVE USBORNE ON THE
LINE, OR THE PINES, OR
HOMELAND, AND I'D LIKE YOU
TO INTRODUCE YOURSELF.
OKAY, GOOD PHONE SKILLS ARE
CERTAINLY A VERY IMPORTANT
PART OF OUR LIFE.
I'D LIKE YOU TO INTRODUCE
YOURSELF AND SAY, HI, I'M JOHN,
AND YOU CAN NAME
YOUR SCHOOL AGAIN.
SO LET'S JUST GET
USED TO DOING THAT.
IT SAVES A LOT OF TIME, AND
IT'S CERTAINLY GOOD PRACTICE
FOR YOU.
NOW, TODAY, WE ARE
GOING TO BE LOOKING AT
INTERVIEWING TECHNIQUES.
AND WE WANT TO SORT OF FOCUS
OUR WHOLE LESSON ON HOW DO
WE GET THE MOST OUT
OF A QUESTION?
SO THE FIRST THING I'M GOING
TO DO IS I'M GOING TO POSE
A QUESTION TO YOU.
LET'S JUST TAKE A
LOOK AT THE QUESTION.

A new slate shows the question: “Would you like to wear a uniform to school?”

She continues
NOW, IF YOU THINK YES, I
WOULD LIKE YOU TO PUSH
1 ON YOUR PHONE.
IF YOU THINK, NO, THEN I
WOULD LIKE YOU TO PRESS 2.
SO LET'S GO AHEAD WITH THAT.
AND LET'S SEE WHAT YOU
OUT THERE ARE THINKING.

She remains silent for a moment. The screen shows a chart with the numbers for the Yes and No responses to question number 1: Would you like to wear a uniform to school? On the right hand side, a grey column reveals the increasing percentages going from 12 to 23.

She continues
OKAY, REMEMBER, IT IS WOULD
YOU LIKE TO WEAR A UNIFORM
TO SCHOOL?
AND IT'S NUMBER 1 THAT
YOU PRESS FOR YES,
AND NUMBER 2 FOR NO.

A new graphic pops up. The legend on top reads “Question Number 1.” The left hand side has a chart with the question “Would you like to wear a uniform to school?” followed by “1. Yes and 2. No.” On the right hand side, number 5 appears at the bottom of a green column and number 10 at the bottom of a purple column. As time passes, the numbers change to 33 and 67 percent, respectively.

She continues
OKAY, SO LET'S JUST TAKE
A LOOK AT THE GRAPH
OF WHAT WE HAVE SO FAR.
AND IT LOOKS LIKE ALREADY 67
PERCENT OF YOU ARE SAYING NO
ON THAT POLLING QUESTION.
SO ALL I'VE REALLY LEARNED IS
THAT 67 PERCENT OF YOU DON'T
WANT TO WEAR A UNIFORM TO
SCHOOL, AND 33 PERCENT OF YOU
WOULD LIKE TO WEAR
A UNIFORM TO SCHOOL.
NOW, WE HAVE TO ASK YOURSELF,
DID I ASK YOU A SURVEY
QUESTION, OR DID I
ASK YOU AN INTERVIEW?
LET'S LOOK AND SEE
WHAT THAT WOULD MEAN.

A new slate on screen reads “Once you ask more than one person the same question, you are doing a Survey...”

She continues
NOW, IF YOU GUESSED A
SURVEY, THEN YOU WERE RIGHT.
NOW, WHAT WE WANT TO LOOK AT
TODAY ARE INTERVIEW TECHNIQUES.
WE'RE NOT GOING TO
SURVEY EACH OTHER.
YOU'RE NOT GOING TO SURVEY MY
GUESTS ON THE PANEL TODAY,
YOU ARE GOING TO TRY
AND INTERVIEW THEM.
AND LET'S LOOK AT WHY
INTERVIEWING IS A KEY PART
OF WHAT WE HAVE TO
LEARN HOW TO DO.

The slate changes to “Interviewing can be used as a technique for reporting to the class. For instance, a TV Talk Show format.”

She continues
NOW, REMEMBER THAT WHEN YOU
ARE CONDUCTING AN INTERVIEW,
YOU'RE USING PEOPLE
AS YOUR RESOURCE.
AND PEOPLE CAN BE A
FABULOUS RESOURCE.
NOW, WHEN YOU ARE ASKING, WHEN
YOU NEED AN ISSUE, OR YOU
NEED SOMETHING FOR SOMEONE
TO HAVE A FEELING ABOUT.
SO IF YOU WANTED TO ASK PEOPLE
HOW YOU FEEL ABOUT A SCHOOL
UNIFORM, THEN THAT'S
REALLY WHAT YOU ARE DOING
IN AN INTERVIEW.
SO YOU ARE TRYING TO DESIGN
QUESTIONS THAT ARE GOING TO
CREATE MORE THAN A ONE-WORD
ANSWER OF A YES OR A NO.
SO WHEN INTERVIEWING,
YOU'RE TRYING TO GIVE
OPEN-ENDED QUESTIONS.
QUESTIONS THAT CAN GIVE PEOPLE
REASONS FOR THINGS, THAT ARE
GOING TO MAKE THEM THINK
OF EXAMPLES, AND TO REALLY
DRAW OUT ANYTHING THEY CAN
ABOUT WHY PEOPLE THINK THAT.
NOW, WHAT WE ARE GOING TO DO
USE TODAY IS A NEWS ARTICLE.
AND A NEWS ARTICLE IS A GREAT
WAY TO INTRODUCE AN INTERVIEW
BECAUSE IT IS CURRENT,
IT'S RELEVANT.
WHEN PEOPLE HAVE A CHANCE TO
READ SOMETHING, THEY CAN FORM
OPINIONS ABOUT IT.
AND THAT'S WHAT I'M GOING
TO ASK YOU TO DO RIGHT NOW.
I'M GOING TO SHOW YOU SOME
LITTLE EXCERPTS OUT OF
SOME NEWS ARTICLES AS
RECENTLY AS FEBRUARY IN
THE TORONTO STAR NEWSPAPER.
AND IT'S ALL ABOUT
SCHOOL UNIFORMS.
REASONS WHY THEY MIGHT BE
GOOD, REASONS WHY THEY MIGHT
NOT BE VERY GOOD.
AND MAYBE YOU CAN BE
THINKING ABOUT HOW YOU FEEL.
NOW, YOU'RE GOING TO ACTUALLY
CONDUCT AN INTERVIEW TODAY
WITH SOMEONE IN YOUR CLASS,
THE PERSON THAT SHARES A PHONE
WITH YOU, ON HOW
THEY FEEL ABOUT IT.
SO IT'S IMPORTANT FOR US TO
LOOK AT, FIRST OF ALL, LET'S
LOOK AT THE ISSUES THAT
ARE IN FRONT OF US.

A quote appears on screen. It reads “News the province is considering implementing a standardized dress code by next fall just doesn’t wash with Ontario high school students. Education Minister Dave Johnson says...no formal policy on uniforms or a code of conduct would be forthcoming until a consultation with parents, teachers, principals and students has been completed.” Quoted from “Caroline Mallan, Ontario studies school uniforms. The Toronto Star. February 3, 1999.”

She continues
OKAY, NUMBER ONE:
SO THEY ARE REALLY NOT
VERY HAPPY ABOUT THAT.
OKAY.
SO TODAY, YOU'RE THE STUDENTS.
WE'RE GOING TO FIND
OUT HOW YOU FEEL.
WE'RE ALL GOING TO CONSULT
EACH OTHER ON THIS TODAY.

A quote reads “Yesterday, Linden (13), was outfitted in a red ski jacket - large for his adolescent frame - big baggy blue jeans with the waist hanging low around his hips and a pair of hiking boots…’My outfit says I’m a skateboarder, snowboarder and that I like hip-hop music.” Quoted from “Caroline Mallan, Ontario studies school uniforms. The Toronto Star. February 3, 1999.”

She continues
SO THERE WE HAVE HIS OUTFIT,
MAKING A STATEMENT ABOUT
HOW HE FEELS AND
WHAT HE BELIEVES IN.
HERE'S ANOTHER ONE.

A quote reads “Sixteen-year-old Bronwyn Ralph said everyone would lack individuality if they were forced into standardized dress. This would take away from your culture and the way you represent yourself. With uniforms there wouldn’t be comparisons between clothing, parents and students would feel that everybody was the same and there wouldn’t be the competition and there would be that private school feeling. But who will pay for standardized dress codes or uniforms, asks Rob Strand, vice-principal of Central Technical School at Bathurst and Harbord Streets. We are a large, inner-city school. I have 300 students who receive a special bursary so they can come to school. Education Minister Dave Johnson says he believes that sloppy dressers could make for sloppy learners. There were 2,500 incidents of assault in Ontario schools in the year 1996-97. Johnson said that those figures, coupled with statistics showing a huge jump in crime involving youths, point to the need for laying out rules for everyone who attends school in Ontario. Government polling and ministry of education research show the public is fully behind the idea of a new ‘get tough’ approach in schools.” Quoted from “Caroline Mallan, Ontario studies school uniforms. The Toronto Star. February 3, 1999.”

She continues
OH, MAYBE YOU'RE FORMING
OPINIONS ABOUT THAT ALREADY.
SO THERE YOU HAVE IT.
NOW, THERE ARE SOME EXCERPTS,
AND HOPEFULLY, WHILE I WAS
READING THOSE TO YOU, YOU
WERE FORMING SOME OPINIONS
OF YOUR OWN.
BECAUSE SOME OF THEM WERE
CERTAINLY FOR UNIFORMS,
AND SOME OF THEM WERE
CERTAINLY REASONS FOR NOT.
CERTAINLY SOME CHILDREN DIDN'T
FEEL THEY REALLY WANTED
THE UNIFORMS.
NOW, HERE'S WHAT
I'D LIKE YOU TO DO.
FIRST OF ALL, YOU ARE
IN TELEPHONE PARTNERS.
SO THE TWO OF YOU AT THE
PHONES, ONE OF YOU IS A,
THE OTHER IS B.
FIRST OF ALL, A WILL BE THE
INTERVIEWER, AND B WILL BE
THE INTERVIEWEE.
THEN WE'LL SWITCH IT SO
ONE INTERVIEWS THE OTHER.
OKAY?
NOW, THE FIRST THING YOU
ARE GOING TO HAVE TO DO IS
MAKE SOME QUESTIONS.
SO YOU ARE GOING TO MAKE
TWO OR THREE QUESTIONS
THAT YOU WILL ASK YOUR
TELEPHONE PARTNER.
NOW, REMEMBER, LET'S TAKE A
LOOK AT WHAT OUR GOAL IS.

A slate on screen reads “Goal: Find out as much as you can about how your partner feels about school uniforms.”

She continues
THIS MEANS THEIR REASONS,
EXAMPLES THAT THEY CAN GIVE,
DRAW OUT HOW THEY FEEL AND
GET AS MUCH INFORMATION
AS YOU CAN FROM
YOUR PARTNER.
NOW, I'M GOING TO, IN THE
FIRST MINUTE, REMEMBER YOU
WILL BE DRAWING OUT YOUR
QUESTIONS, AND IN THE
SECOND PART, YOU WILL
INTERVIEW EACH OTHER.
SO LET'S GET
STARTED WITH THAT.
I'M GOING TO PUT UP THE BUZZ.
START MAKING YOUR QUESTIONS
AND INTERVIEW EACH OTHER.
REMEMBER, GET THE MOST YOU
CAN OUT OF EVERY QUESTION.
OKAY, LET'S HAVE
A WORK PERIOD.
OKAY, NOW YOU SHOULD
HAVE YOUR QUESTIONS.

She remains silent as a hand-written document on screen reads “The Buzz! (5 minutes.)” Next, she appears on a small window at the left bottom of the screen.

She continues
SO EACH OF YOU HAVE PREPARED
QUESTIONS TO ASK EACH OTHER.
NOW YOU CAN CONDUCT
YOUR INTERVIEW.
OKAY, GO FOR IT.
WE HAVE A FEW MORE MINUTES
TO CONDUCT YOUR INTERVIEWS.
WHEN YOU HAVE FINISHED YOUR
INTERVIEW, WHEN YOU ARE READY
TO CALL IN, THE CALLS THAT
I'M LOOKING FOR IS FOR YOU
TO CALL IN WHAT WAS
YOUR BEST QUESTION?
WHAT WAS THE QUESTION THAT
GAVE THE MOST OPEN-ENDED ANSWER?
GO FOR IT.

After a few silent minutes she’s back on the screen.

She says
HI, SO WHAT WE'RE LOOKING
FOR NOW IS FOR -- HOPEFULLY
YOU FINISHED MOST OF
YOUR INTERVIEWS.
IF NOT, YOU CAN GO BACK TO
IT AFTER THE SHOW BECAUSE
I'M SURE YOUR QUESTIONS
ARE REALLY GOOD.
WHAT I'D LIKE TO DO IS TAKE
SOME CALLS NOW ON WHAT WAS
YOUR BEST QUESTION?
OKAY?
BECAUSE TODAY IS ALL ON
INTERVIEWING AND QUESTIONING.
SO LET'S HEAR SOME OF THESE
WONDERFUL QUESTIONS YOU HAVE.
HI, WE HAVE HOMELAND ONLINE.

Jonathan says
HELLO.

She says HI.
COULD YOU INTRODUCE
YOURSELF, PLEASE?

Jonathan says
I'M JONATHAN FROM HOMELAND.

She says
HI, JONATHAN.
AND WHAT WAS YOUR
BEST QUESTION?

Jonathan says
IF YOU WERE FORCED TO WEAR A
UNIFORM, HOW WOULD YOU FEEL?

As he speaks, the screen shows a blue paper sheet with the word “Questions.” She adds Jonathan’s question under number 2.

She says
IF YOU WERE FORCED TO WEAR A
UNIFORM, HOW WOULD YOU FEEL?
GOOD QUESTION.
CAN I SPEAK TO YOUR
INTERVIEW PARTNER?

Jonathan says
OKAY.

Zade says
HELLO.

She says HI.
WHAT'S YOUR NAME?


Zade says
I'M ZADE FROM HOMELAND.

She says HI, ZADE.
WHAT WAS YOUR BEST QUESTION?

Zade says
MY BEST QUESTION WAS DO YOU
OR DO YOU NOT WANT TO WEAR
UNIFORMS AND WHY?

She adds Zade’s question under number 4.

She says OKAY.
I'M GOING TO PUT
JUST THE END WHY.
AND THAT WAS KEY.
DID YOU GET A GOOD ANSWER
TO THAT WHEN YOU ASKED
THAT QUESTION?

Zade says
YES, I DID

She says.
OKAY, GOOD.
IT WAS A GOOD QUESTION.
THANKS FOR CALLING THAT IN.
OKAY, WE'LL TAKE ANOTHER
FEW CALLS ON THOSE.
THAT WAS GREAT, OKAY?
WHEN YOU HAVE TO ASK WHY,
THAT FORCES THE PERSON TO
GIVE A REASON.
AND THAT CERTAINLY IS A VERY
GOOD OPEN-ENDED QUESTION.
AND WHEN YOU ASK SOMEONE HOW
DO THEY FEEL, THAT CERTAINLY IS
GOING TO GIVE MORE THAN
A ONE-WORD ANSWER ALSO.
SO THOSE ARE SOME
VERY GOOD QUESTIONS.
OKAY, WE'LL TAKE A FEW MORE.
WE HAVE THE PINES ONLINE.
HI, COULD YOU INTRODUCE
YOURSELF, PLEASE?
HI, PICK UP YOUR PHONE.
HELLO?

Mike says HI.
WHAT'S YOUR
OPINION ON UNIFORMS?


She says WHAT IS YOUR
OPINION ON UNIFORMS.
GOOD.
OKAY, WHAT IS YOUR NAME?

Mike says
MIKE.

She says
OKAY, CAN I TALK TO YOUR
INTERVIEW PARTNER PLEASE?
WHAT IS YOUR OPINION?
GOOD QUESTION.
HI.

Christopher says
HI.

She says
COULD YOU INTRODUCE
YOURSELF, PLEASE?

Christopher says
CHRISTOPHER ROSS.
She says HI.
WHAT WAS YOUR BEST QUESTION?

Christopher says
WHAT WOULD YOU LIKE TO WEAR
MORE, UNIFORMS OR ANYTHING ELSE?

As they continue to speak, she keeps on adding the questions to the sheet under the numbers 1 and 3.

She says
OKAY, WHAT WOULD YOU
LIKE TO WEAR MORE?
THANKS FOR CALLING THAT IN.
WE'LL TAKE A COUPLE
MORE CALLS ON THAT.
CERTAINLY ASKING SOMEONE FOR
THEIR OPINION, THAT'S ANOTHER
OPEN-ENDED QUESTION.
THAT WAS A VERY GOOD ONE.
THAT FORCES THE PERSON TO
THINK WHAT AM I THINKING?
THAT'S VERY GOOD.
OKAY, WE HAVE HOMELAND ONLINE.

Jarrod says
HELLO.

She says HI.
COULD YOU INTRODUCE
YOURSELF, PLEASE?

Jarrod says
HELLO, THIS IS JARROD
SEMPLE FROM HOMELAND.

She says HI.
WELCOME, WELCOME.
NOW, WHAT WAS YOUR
BEST QUESTION?

Jarrod says
GIVE REASONS WHY YOU
DON'T WANT UNIFORMS.

She says GOOD.
THANK YOU FOR CALLING THAT IN.
COULD I SPEAK TO YOUR
INTERVIEW PARTNER, PLEASE?

Omar says HELLO.

She says HI.
WHAT IS YOUR NAME?

Omar says
I'M OMAR FROM HOMELAND.

She says HI, OMAR.
AND WHAT WAS YOUR
BEST QUESTION?

Omar says
IT WAS, DO YOU THINK WE COULD
BENEFIT FROM UNIFORMS AND WHY?

She says GOOD.
THANK YOU FOR CALLING THAT IN.
OKAY, GOOD, BENEFIT.
COULD WE BENEFIT, AND WHY?
OKAY.
SO, FIRST OF ALL, THAT'S
FORCING THE PERSON TO
COME TO THEIR IDEA.
YOU KNOW, DO YOU THINK THERE
IS A BENEFIT, AND IF SO WHY?
OKAY, THOSE WERE REALLY,
REALLY GOOD QUESTIONS.
OKAY, WE'LL TAKE
ONE MORE QUESTION.
IT'S THE PINES.
HI, PICK UP YOUR PHONE.

Donna says YEAH.

She says HI.
COULD YOU INTRODUCE
YOURSELF, PLEASE?

Donna says
DONNA SHEAR.

She says HI.
AND WHAT IS YOUR
BEST QUESTION?
THAT'S OKAY.
FOCUS ON THE QUESTION.

Donna says
DO YOU LIKE SCHOOL?
AND WOULD YOU WANT TO
WEAR SCHOOL UNIFORMS?

She says OKAY, GOOD.
CAN I SPEAK TO YOUR
INTERVIEW PARTNER, PLEASE?

Donna says OKAY.

Rachel says
HELLO.

She says
WHAT IS YOUR NAME?

Rachel says
RACHEL GARCIA.

She says HI, RACHEL.
AND WHAT WAS YOUR
BEST QUESTION?

Rachel says
WHAT DO YOU THINK OF
PEOPLE WHO WANT TO WEAR
SCHOOL UNIFORMS?

She says OKAY.
WHAT DO YOU THINK OF THEM?

Rachel says
I DON'T WANT TO WEAR THEM.

She says
YOU DON'T WANT TO WEAR THEM.
BUT THAT WAS YOUR QUESTION.

Rachel says PARDON?

She says
WHAT WAS YOUR QUESTION AGAIN?

Rachel says
WHAT DO YOU THINK
OF PEOPLE WHO WANT TO WEAR
SCHOOL UNIFORMS?

She says OKAY, GOOD.
THANKS FOR CALLING THAT IN.
OKAY, I THINK WE HAVE
SOME PRETTY GOOD QUESTIONS
AS A BEGINNING.
AND I THINK WHAT'S MAKING THEM
GOOD IS THE HOWS, THE WHYS,
AND GIVING GOOD REASONS.
NOW, KEEPING THAT IN MIND,
I'M GOING TO INTRODUCE YOU
TO MY GUEST.
AND I'D LIKE YOU TO
MEET DAVID SUSSMAN.
HE'S A STUDENT OF MINE IN
GRADE EIGHT AT WINFIELD'S
JUNIOR HIGH SCHOOL.
AND TAMARA STEIN.
SHE IS ALSO A STUDENT
OF MINE AT WINFIELD'S.

David is young, with short dark hair in a neat cut and is clean-shaven. He wears a deep blue suit, a white shirt and a green tie. Tamara has long brown hair in a bun and wears a long-sleeve white blouse and pearl earrings.

She continues
THEY ARE BOTH GRADE
EIGHT STUDENTS.
I'VE BROUGHT THEM
ON AS GUESTS.
AND WHAT YOU ARE GOING TO
GET THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO IS
TO MEET THEM.
AND YOU ARE GOING TO
INTERVIEW DAVID AND TAMARA.
NOW, FIRST OF ALL, DAVID,
COULD YOU TELL ME JUST BRIEFLY
WHAT SIDE YOU HAVE
ON SCHOOL UNIFORMS?
HOW DO YOU FEEL ABOUT THEM?
JUST A GENERAL STATEMENT.

David says
AS YOU CAN SEE, I'M
WEARING A UNIFORM.
I THINK THEY ARE A GOOD THING
BECAUSE YOU DON'T HAVE TO
WORRY ABOUT WHAT YOU ARE
GOING TO WEAR IN THE MORNING.
AND NO ONE GETS PICKED ON
BECAUSE OF WHAT THEY WEAR.

She says
GREAT.
OKAY, THANKS, DAVID.
AND TAMARA, CAN YOU TELL US
YOUR SIDE ON WHAT YOU THINK,
SHOULD WE OR SHOULD WE NOT
BE WEARING SCHOOL UNIFORMS?

Tamara says
WELL, PERSONALLY, I WOULDN'T
WANT TO WEAR A UNIFORM
BECAUSE THEY TOOK AWAY
EVERYONE'S PERSONAL STYLE,
AND THEY ARE
REALLY EXPENSIVE.
AND I THINK IT'S BETTER JUST
TO WEAR YOUR OWN CLOTHES.

She says OKAY.
NOW, DAVID WORE A UNIFORM.
HE DID GO TO PRIVATE SCHOOL
FOR, HOW MANY YEARS, DAVID?

David says
THREE.

She confirms and continues THREE.
AND SO HE HAD TO WEAR A
UNIFORM, AND HE'S WEARING HIS
UNIFORM, AND HE'S ON
THAT SIDE FOR YOU TODAY.
SO HE'LL ANSWER
THOSE QUESTIONS.
NOW, WHAT I WOULD LIKE YOU TO
DO IS I'M GOING TO GIVE YOU A
FEW MINUTES NOW TO WORK WITH
YOUR TELEPHONE PARTNER.
AND ONE OF YOU, IF YOU ARE
AN A, YOU CAN MAKE UP, SAY,
THREE QUESTIONS THAT YOU
WOULD DIRECT TOWARDS A PERSON
WHO LIKES UNIFORMS, OR IS
COMFORTABLE WEARING THEM, AND
IS HAPPY WITH THAT, AND IF
YOU ARE A B ON THE INTERVIEW
TEAM, YOU CAN MAKE UP A
COUPLE OF QUESTIONS THAT YOU
WOULD ADDRESS TO TAMARA.
I'LL GIVE YOU A FEW MINUTES TO
BUZZ, THEN I'LL RECEIVE CALLS.
WHEN YOU CALL IN, PLEASE GIVE
YOUR NAME, AND DIRECT YOUR
QUESTION TO, THIS IS DIRECTED
TO DAVID, OR THIS IS DIRECTED
TO TAMARA.
NOW, BE VERY KIND.
THEY ARE MY GUESTS.
THEY'RE HERE TO HELP YOU IMPROVE
YOUR INTERVIEWING SKILLS.
SO WE'LL BE BACK IN JUST A
MINUTE, AND YOU'LL GET A
CHANCE TO INTERVIEW BOTH
SIDES OF THIS ARGUMENT.
SO THE BUZZ.

A hand-written blue sheet of paper pops up. It reads “The Buzz! Quick talk and Partners. (2-3 minutes.)” She remains silent during the exercise.

She continues
SO WE HAVE SOME CALLERS
ONLINE, AND WE'LL START
OUR INTERVIEW NOW.
SO WE HAVE HOMELAND
ON THE LINE.
HI.

Jarrod says HELLO.

She says
HI, COULD YOU INTRODUCE
YOURSELF, PLEASE?

Jarrod says
THIS IS JARROD AGAIN.

She says
HI, JARROD.
AND COULD YOU DIRECT YOUR
QUESTION TO DAVID OR TAMARA.

Jarrod says THIS IS FOR DAVID.

She says
OKAY, GO AHEAD.

Jarrod says WHY DO YOU LIKE
WEARING UNIFORMS?

She says
GOOD QUESTION.

David says
I THINK THAT, LIKE I SAID
BEFORE, YOU DON'T HAVE TO
WORRY ABOUT WHAT YOU
ARE GOING TO WEAR.
DURING CLASS, YOU DON'T HAVE
TO WORRY ABOUT WHAT EVERYONE
ELSE IS WEARING BECAUSE EVERYONE
IS WEARING THE SAME THING.
PEOPLE DON'T GET PICKED ON WHO
ARE LESS FORTUNATE AND CAN'T
GET, LIKE PEOPLE WON'T BE
COMPARED TO OTHER PEOPLE.
AND REASONS LIKE THAT.

She says GOOD, OKAY.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR
CALLING THAT IN, AND WE'LL
WAIT FOR THE NEXT CALL.
AT THE END OF OUR INTERVIEW,
WE'RE GOING TO MAKE A
SUMMATION ON WHAT SOME OF THE
GOOD QUALITY QUESTIONS WERE.
HI, WE HAVE THE PINES ONLINE.

Derek says
HI.

She says HI.
COULD YOU INTRODUCE
YOURSELF, PLEASE?

Derek says DEREK.

She says HI.
AND WHO IS YOUR
QUESTION DIRECTED TO?

Derek says
WHY DON'T PEOPLE LIKE TO WEAR
BAGGY PANTS INSTEAD OF THOSE
SKIN TIGHT PANTS AND UNIFORMS?

She says OKAY.
ARE YOU DIRECTING THAT
TO TAMARA OR DAVID?

Derek says DAVID.

She says
OKAY, COULD YOU JUST REPEAT
THAT QUESTION AGAIN?

Derek says
WHY DON'T PEOPLE LIKE TO WEAR
BAGGY PANTS INSTEAD OF THOSE
SKIN TIGHT PANTS IN UNIFORMS?

She says OKAY.

David says
UNIFORMS AREN'T SKIN TIGHT.
THE PANTS I'M WEARING,
THEY'RE BAGGY, TOO.
UNIFORMS AREN'T SKIN TIGHT,
THEY CAN BE ANYTHING.
THEY CAN STILL BE LIKE
WHAT YOU ARE WEARING NOW,
BUT EVERYONE WEARS
THE SAME THING.
THERE'S LIKE SHORTS, THERE'S
SHORT UNIFORMS, SHORT SLEEVES,
DIFFERENT THINGS LIKE THAT.

She says OKAY, GOOD.
GOOD QUESTION.
THANK YOU FOR
CALLING THAT ONE IN.
OKAY, WE'RE JUST READY TO
CONNECT TO THE NEXT ONE.

Zade says HELLO.

She says HI, WE HAVE
HOMELANDS ON THE LINE.
CAN YOU INTRODUCE
YOURSELF, PLEASE?

Zade says HI, THIS IS ZADE
FROM HOMELAND.

She says HI, WELCOME.
AND WHO IS YOUR
QUESTION DIRECTED TO?

Zade says
THIS IS TO DAVID.

She says DAVID, OKAY.

Zade says
DID YOU ALWAYS LIKE WEARING
UNIFORMS, OR YOU DIDN'T LIKE
THEM AT FIRST?

David says AT FIRST, I DIDN'T THINK
THEY WERE A GOOD THING.
I NEVER WANTED TO WEAR ONE.
WHEN I HAD TO, I THOUGHT
IT WAS LIKE A PAIN.
BUT BEFORE YOU TRY SOMETHING,
YOU DON'T KNOW IF IT'S GOOD
OR BAD.
AND I GUESS I DIDN'T REALLY
HAVE A CHOICE OF WHAT I HAD TO
WEAR, SO I GOT USED TO
UNIFORMS, AND EVENTUALLY, I
THOUGHT THEY WERE GOOD BECAUSE
I WOULD SLIP THE SAME THING
ON EVERY MORNING, AND I
WOULDN'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT
WHAT I'M WEARING.
AND EVENTUALLY, YOU COME TO
THINK OF THEM THAT THEY ARE
NOT THAT BAD AS
PEOPLE THINK THEY ARE.

She says OKAY.
WE'LL JUST WAIT TO
CONNECT TO ANOTHER ONE.
DAVID WAS IN A UNIFORM, AND
NOW HE'S AT OUR SCHOOL WHERE
HE NO LONGER WEARS A UNIFORM.
WE HAVE THE PINES ONLINE.

The Female Caller says
HELLO.

She says HI.
AND WHO IS YOUR
QUESTION DIRECTED TO?

The Female Caller says
TAMARA.

She says OKAY, TAMARA.
GO AHEAD.

The Female Caller says
WHAT IF YOU HAD
TO WEAR A UNIFORM?

She says
WHAT IF SHE DID?

The Female Caller says YEAH.

She says OKAY.
WHAT WOULD YOU DO IF YOU WERE
ASKED TO WEAR A UNIFORM NOW,
KNOWING THAT YOU
DON'T WANT TO?

Tamara says
WELL, I WOULD WEAR IT, I
GUESS BECAUSE YOU'D GET
IN TROUBLE, I SUPPOSE,
IF YOU DIDN'T WEAR IT.
BUT I WOULD STILL WEAR MY
OWN CLOTHES ON WEEKENDS AND
AROUND SCHOOL, AND I
WOULD PROBABLY BE KIND OF
EMBARRASSED TO WEAR A UNIFORM
OUTSIDE OF SCHOOL, IF SOMEONE
SAW ME IN IT, LIKE IN A
SKIRT OR A KILT, AND LIKE A
BUTTONED-DOWN SHIRT
AND A SUIT JACKET.
IT JUST WOULDN'T SUIT ME.
AND I WOULDN'T FEEL
COMFORTABLE IN IT.

She says
OKAY, GOOD, GOOD.
OKAY.
SO WE'LL JUST WAIT TO
CONNECT TO THE NEXT PERSON.
HI, WE HAVE HOMELANDS ONLINE.

Jenna says
HI.

She says
COULD YOU INTRODUCE
YOURSELF PLEASE?

Jenna says
I'M JENNA FROM HOMELAND.

She says HI.
AND WHO'S YOUR
QUESTION DIRECTED TO?

Jena says
TAMARA.

She says
OKAY, GO AHEAD.

Jenna says
DO YOU THINK IT MATTERS
WHAT YOU WEAR TO SCHOOL?
AND WHY?

Tamara says
I DON'T THINK IT
MATTERS AT ALL.
IT'S JUST WHAT YOU
ARE COMFORTABLE IN.
AND IF SOMEONE'S COMFORTABLE
IN A SUIT, OR A KILT,
THEN THEY COULD WEAR
A KILT OR A SUIT.
AND IF SOMEONE'S COMFORTABLE
IN BAGGY JEANS OR SWEAT PANTS,
THEY SHOULD WEAR THAT.

She says
OKAY, GOOD, GOOD.
WHAT DO YOU NORMALLY
WEAR TO SCHOOL, TAMARA.
SINCE YOU ARE NOT FOR
UNIFORMS, WHAT WOULD YOU
FORMALLY WEAR?

Tamara says
I'D PROBABLY NORMALLY WEAR
SWEAT PANTS AND A SWEATSHIRT.

She says OKAY.
SOMETHING COMFORTABLE.
OKAY.
WE HAVE THE PINES ONLINE.
COULD YOU INTRODUCE
YOURSELF, PLEASE?
HELLO, PICK UP YOUR PHONE.

Chris says HELLO.

She says HI.
INTRODUCE YOURSELF, PLEASE.
WHAT IS YOUR NAME?

Chris says CHRIS.

She says OH, HI CHRIS.
AND WHO IS YOUR
QUESTION DIRECTED TO?

Chris says DAVID.

She says OKAY, GO AHEAD.

Chris says
HOW DO YOU FEEL WHEN
YOU WEAR A UNIFORM?

David says
WELL, WHEN I USED TO WEAR A
UNIFORM AND PEOPLE SAW ME, I
GUESS, YOU HAVE TO
GET USED TO THAT.
I WASN'T EMBARRASSED, EXCEPT,
I DON'T KNOW, IT'S JUST SORT
OF YOU HAVE TO GET USED TO THE
FACT OF WEARING A UNIFORM.
IT'S NOT ALL THAT BAD.

She says OKAY.
WAS IT COMFORTABLE,
OR UNCOMFORTABLE?

David says AT FIRST, I GUESS
IT'S A BIT ITCHY.
BUT AFTER A WHILE, THEY GET
WORKED IN, AND IT BECOMES A
LITTLE MORE COMFORTABLE.
IT'S NOT AS COMFORTABLE AS
WEARING JOGGING PANTS
OR KHAKIS.

She says SURE, SURE.

David says
IT'S STILL AS COMFORTABLE.

She says
SO THAT STIFF BLAZER STARTS
TO WORK ITS WAY IN, EH?
YOU GET HOLES IN THE ELBOW
AND EVERYTHING IS JUST COOL.

David says YUP.

She says OKAY.
SO WE HAVE HOMELAND
ON THE LINE.

Jessica says HI.

She says HI.
COULD YOU INTRODUCE
YOURSELF, PLEASE?

Jessica says
I'M JESSICA FROM HOMELAND.

She says HI, JESSICA.

Jessica says HI.

She says
AND WHO IS YOUR QUESTION TO?

Jessica says TAMARA.

She says OKAY.

Jessica says
DO YOU THINK A SLOPPY
DRESSER IS A SLOPPY LEARNER?

She says
GOOD QUESTION.
THAT'S REALLY GOOD.

Jessica says I KNOW.

Tamara says I THINK THAT'S
DEFINITELY UNTRUE.
BECAUSE A LOT OF MY FRIENDS,
AND ME, MYSELF, WEAR SWEAT
PANTS OR MATERIALS NOT LIKE
JEANS OR A DRESS OR SOMETHING,
AND WE'RE ON THE HONOUR ROLL
OR DOING WELL IN SCHOOL.
WE'RE NOT FAILING OR ANYTHING.
SO IT MAKES NO SENSE AT ALL.

She says OKAY.
SHALL WE ASK THAT -- DO YOU
WANT TO DIRECT THAT QUESTION
TO DAVID AND SEE IF HE HAS A
DIFFERENT FEELING ON THAT?
OKAY, DAVID, HOW DO
YOU FEEL ABOUT THAT?
THAT WAS A REALLY
GOOD QUESTION.
IS A SLOPPY DRESSER
A SLOPPY LEARNER?
WHEN YOU WERE WEARING A
UNIFORM, DID THAT MEAN YOU
WERE A BETTER LEARNER
BECAUSE YOU WERE ORGANIZED
IN YOUR DRESS?
DID THAT MEAN YOU WERE
AN ORGANIZED LEARNER?
LIKE IF YOU WERE IN A UNIFORM,
YOU'VE GOT A NEAT BINDER?
DID THAT CARRY FORWARD?

David says
IT DIDN'T REALLY MAKE
A DIFFERENCE TO ME.
I MEAN, IT JUST SORT OF,
YOU KNOW, YOU'RE JUST
CONCENTRATING A BIT MORE
BECAUSE YOU DON'T HAVE TO
WORRY ABOUT ANYTHING.
BUT I THINK IT'S NOT WHAT YOU
WEAR, IT'S THE PERSON INSIDE.
PEOPLE CAN WEAR WHATEVER THEY
WANT, AND IT STILL DOESN'T
MAKE A DIFFERENCE.

She says OKAY.
SO WE HAVE THE
PINES ON THE LINE.
INTRODUCE YOURSELF, PLEASE.

Amber says
HI, I'M AMBER.

She says HI, AMBER.
AND WHO IS YOUR
QUESTION DIRECTED TO?

Amber says TAMARA.

She says OKAY, GO AHEAD.

Amber says OKAY.
YOU HAVE A REALLY GOOD
EXPLANATION FOR NOT WEARING
UNIFORMS, BUT WOULDN'T
YOU FEEL APPROPRIATE AND
REPRESENTABLE WEARING THEM?

Tamara says
WELL, I DON'T KNOW ABOUT
APPROPRIATE BECAUSE I DON'T
FEEL THAT A SKIRT IS
APPROPRIATE TO WEAR A SCHOOL.
BUT I GUESS, IF EVERYONE WAS
WEARING JEANS AND A T-SHIRT,
OR SWEATPANTS AND A T-SHIRT,
I WOULD FEEL APPROPRIATE.
IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH
RESPECT, WHAT YOU ARE WEARING.
IT IS THE PERSON
INSIDE, LIKE DAVID SAID.

She says OKAY, GOOD.
WE HAVE ANOTHER
CALLER ONLINE HERE.
WE HAVE THE HOMELANDS.

Cynthia says HI.

She says HI.
COULD YOU INTRODUCE
YOURSELF, PLEASE?

Cynthia says
I'M CYNTHIA FROM HOMELAND.

She says HI, CYNTHIA.
AND WHO IS YOUR
QUESTION DIRECTED TO?

Cynthia says
THIS IS FOR TAMARA.

She says OKAY.

Cynthia says
WHAT DO YOUR CLOTHES
SAY ABOUT YOU?

She says
OH, GOOD QUESTION.
WHAT DO YOUR CLOTHES
SAY ABOUT YOU?

Tamara says
THAT I'M COMFORTABLE,
AND... I'M NOT REALLY SURE.
I DON'T THINK
THEY SAY ANYTHING.
THAT I LIKE THEM, AND THEY ARE
COMFORTABLE, AND THEY DON'T
REALLY EXPRESS ME, I GUESS.

She says
SO YOU LIKE TO HAVE THE
CHOICE OF WHAT YOU ARE
WEARING, BUT THEY DON'T --
REMEMBER WHEN WE WERE LOOKING
AT THE NEWS ARTICLE, IT
TALKED ABOUT THE BOY WHO WAS --
I'M A SKATEBOARDER,
I'M A SNOWBOARDER,
MY CLOTHES TELL ME WHO I AM.
MY CLOTHES REPRESENT
MY MUSIC AND SO ON.
AND WE CERTAINLY HAVE A LOT
OF KIDS AT OUR SCHOOL WHO ARE
VERY, THEIR DRESS REALLY
REPRESENTS WHO THEY STAND FOR.
THAT WAS A REALLY
GOOD QUESTION.
OKAY, WE HAVE
THE PINES ONLINE.
HI.
COULD YOU INTRODUCE
YOURSELF, PLEASE?

Lisa says I'M LISA.

She says HI, LISA.
AND WHO IS YOUR
QUESTION DIRECTED TO?

Lisa says DAVID.

She says OKAY, GO FOR IT.

Lisa says
WHAT IF YOU WOKE UP AND
YOUR UNIFORM WASN'T CLEAN?
WHAT WOULD YOU DO?

She says
I BET THAT HAPPENED
A FEW TIMES.

David says
I JUST GRAB ONE --
WELL, THIS IS WHAT I DID.
I WOULD JUST GRAB ONE
FROM MY BROTHER'S ROOM.
BASICALLY IT JUST
CONSISTS OF A WHITE SHIRT.
AND MY BROTHERS HAVE ONE,
I JUST TAKE ONE FROM THEM.
AND EVEN IT WASN'T, I GUESS I
COULD TO SCHOOL WITHOUT IT,
BUT I GET A PUNISHMENT.
I MEAN I'VE DONE THAT BEFORE.
OR I WOULD JUST WEAR MY
GYM UNIFORM OR SOMETHING.
BUT LIKE IF I WOKE UP AND IT
WASN'T READY, I GUESS I WOULD
JUST HAVE TO GO WITHOUT IT.

She says
SO YOU'D HAVE TO WEAR A
DIRTY TIE OR DIRTY SHIRT
OR SOMETHING?

David says
YEAH.

She says
SO THERE WOULD BE A
PUNISHMENT FOR NOT HAVING --
RIGHT.
SO IF EVERYBODY HAS TO HAVE,
IT'S PRETTY TO PATROL THAT,
ISN'T IT?
IF SOMEONE HAS
DIRTY CUFFS OR NOT.
HI, WE HAVE
HOMELANDS ONLINE.

Julie says HI.

She says HI.
AND YOUR NAME, PLEASE?

Julie says
I'M JULIE FROM HOMELANDS.

She says HI.
AND WHO ARE YOU
DIRECTING YOUR QUESTION TO?

Julie says
MY QUESTION IS
DIRECTED TO TAMARA.

She says GOOD, OKAY.
GO AHEAD.

Julie says
IN YOU WERE FORCED TO WEAR
THE SCHOOL UNIFORM, AND THEY
WERE ALLOWING YOU TO ARGUE
YOUR POINT OF WHY YOU DON'T
WANT TO WEAR A UNIFORM,
HOW WOULD YOU DO SO?

She says
OH, VERY GOOD QUESTION.

Tamara says
I WOULD SAY, WELL, ONE OF
MY MAIN REASON WOULD BE IT'S
REALLY EXPENSIVE.
SOME UNIFORMS, THE WHOLE
THING, CAN BE 200 DOLLARS.
AND YOU WOULD HAVE TO BUY TWO
OR THREE OF THOSE, SO THAT'S,
SAY, 400 TO 600 DOLLARS.
THEN YOU STILL HAVE CLOTHES
FOR THE WEEKENDS AND FOR
PARTIES AND STUFF.
SO IT'S JUST, WHAT YOU'RE
WEARING NOW, PLUS MORE.
SO I WOULD ARGUE THAT
IT WAS EXPENSIVE.

She says OH, OKAY.
GOOD.
GOOD QUESTION.
DO YOU FEEL THE
SAME WAY, DAVID?
OR DO YOU FEEL IT'S MORE
EXPENSIVE OR CHEAPER
TO WEAR A UNIFORM?

David says
WELL, WHAT A LOT OF PEOPLE
DON'T KNOW IS THAT UNIFORMS
DON'T COST AS MUCH AS CLOTHES.
ALL UNIFORM CONSISTS OF,
LIKE I SAID, IS GREY PANTS,
OXFORDS, A TIE, A WHITE SHIRT.
AND MAYBE THE ONLY REALLY
EXPENSIVE THING IS A BLAZER
OR CARDIGAN OR A VEST.
BUT I DON'T THINK IF THE
PUBLIC SCHOOL SYSTEM DID GET
UNIFORMS, I DON'T THINK
THEY'D GET BLAZERS BECAUSE
OF THE EXPENSE.
BUT LIKE, REALLY, YOU CAN
BUY UNIFORMS ANYWHERE.
THERE'S NO REAL SPECIAL
STORE WHERE YOU GO.
YOU CAN GO TO ANY STORE,
BASICALLY, AND GET A UNIFORM.

She says RIGHT.
SO A UNIFORM COULD BE
SOMETHING LIKE KHAKIS AND A
BLUE BUTTONED-DOWN SHIRT
OR SOMETHING FOR A GUY.
AND KHAKIS AND SOME SORT
OF A SHIRT FOR A GIRL.
AND SO IT MIGHT NOT BE
THAT MORE EXPENSIVE.
BUT YOU PROBABLY WOULDN'T WANT
TO WEAR THAT AFTER SCHOOL.
LIKE TAMARA SAID, YOU
WANT TWO SETS OF CLOTHING.
OKAY, WE HAVE ANOTHER
CALLER FROM THE PINES.

Chris says HELLO.

She says HI.
COULD YOU INTRODUCE
YOURSELF, PLEASE?

Chris says I'M CHRIS.

She says HI, CHRIS.
AND WHO IS YOUR
QUESTION DIRECTED TO?

Chris says TAMARA.

She says OKAY, GO AHEAD.

Chris says
WHAT WOULD YOU SAY TO Mr.
DAVE JOHNSON TO CONVINCE
HIM NOT TO CHOOSE TO
IMPLEMENT SCHOOL UNIFORMS?

She says
OH, VERY GOOD QUESTION.
GOOD FOR YOU.
THAT WAS A GOOD ONE.
GO AHEAD, TAMARA.

Tamara says
WELL, LIKE BEFORE, I WOULD
SAY THEY ARE EXPENSIVE,
AND NO ONE REALLY WANTS THEM.
AND THEY WOULDN'T
CHANGE ANYTHING.
THE SCHOOL WOULD STILL BE
THE SAME SCHOOL, JUST WITH
EVERYBODY WEARING
THE SAME THING.
AND IT'S A BAD IDEA.

She says OKAY.
GOOD ANSWER ON YOUR
PART, TOO, TAMARA.
THANK YOU.
OKAY, WE CAN STILL
TAKE SOME MORE CALLS.
WE HAVE HOMELANDS ONLINE.

Shannon says
HI, I'M SHANNON.

She says HI, SHANNON.

Shannon says
THIS QUESTION IS FOR TAMARA.

She says OKAY, GO AHEAD.

Shannon says
WHY DO YOU THINK DAVE JOHNSON
WANTS US TO WEAR UNIFORMS
WHEN HE KNOWS SOME STUDENTS
DON'T LIKE THIS IDEA?

She says OKAY.
WHAT DO YOU THINK
HIS REASON IS?
GOOD QUESTION.

Tamara says
WELL, I THINK HE THINKS IT
MATTERS WHAT PEOPLE WEAR, AND
THAT IF YOU DRESS, SAY, IN
OVER SIZE JEANS OR SOMETHING,
THAT MEANS YOU'RE DEFINITELY
ON DRUGS, AND YOU'RE
A BAD STUDENT.
BUT THAT'S
COMPLETELY NOT TRUE.
SO THAT'S PROBABLY
WHY HE WANTS THEM.
AND HE THINKS EVERYONE WILL
ACT VERY CONFORMED AND VERY
WELL IF THEY ARE
WEARING THE SAME THING.
BUT IT'S NOT TRUE AT ALL.

She says OKAY, GOOD.
GOOD ANSWER.
AND VERY GOOD QUESTION.
YOU KNOW, I'M REALLY PLEASED
OUT THERE WITH THE KINDS OF
QUESTIONS YOU ARE DIRECTING
TO OUR GUESTS TODAY.
THEY'RE REALLY GOOD.
THEY'RE VERY OPEN-ENDED.
THEY REQUIRE THINKING
AND CERTAINLY MORE THAN
A ONE-WORD ANSWER.
AND THAT'S REALLY WHAT WE'RE
STRIVING FOR IN INTERVIEWING.
OKAY, WE HAVE
THE PINES ONLINE.

Sarah says HI.

She says HI.
COULD YOU INTRODUCE
YOURSELF, PLEASE?

Sarah says I'M SARAH.

She says HI, SARAH.
AND WHO IS YOUR
QUESTION DIRECTED TO?

Sarah says TAMARA.

She says OKAY, GO AHEAD.

Sarah says
DO YOU WANT TO WEAR
SCHOOL UNIFORMS?
BECAUSE I WOULD FEEL
UNCOMFORTABLE WEARING ONE.

Tamara says I DEFINITELY DON'T
WANT TO WEAR A UNIFORM.
AND I AGREE WITH YOU.
THEY WOULD BE SO
UNCOMFORTABLE.
I MEAN, CAN YOU IMAGINE
WALKING OR TAKING THE BUS TO
SCHOOL IN A SKIRT?
I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW FOR GUYS
BECAUSE THEY GET TO WEAR
PANTS, BUT A LOT OF SCHOOLS
WANT THE GIRLS TO WEAR SKIRTS
OR KILTS OR WHATEVER.
AND IT WOULD BE
REALLY UNCOMFORTABLE.

She says OKAY, OKAY.
AND I GUESS IN CERTAIN SUBJECT
AREA, FOR EXAMPLE, WHEN YOU
COME TO THE DRAMA CLASS, WHY
WOULD IT NOT BE A GOOD IDEA
FOR DRAMA, TO WEAR A
SKIRT OR A UNIFORM?

Tamara says FOR DRAMA?
'COS IN DRAMA, YOU'RE
EXPRESSING YOURSELF, I GUESS.
AND IF YOU ARE WEARING THE
SAME THING AS EVERYONE ELSE,
IT ALSO HELPS WHEN LIKE YOU
ARE EXPRESSING YOURSELF, OR IF
YOU ARE TRYING TO PORTRAY A
CERTAIN CHARACTER IN A PLAY OR
SOMETHING, I DON'T THINK YOU
COULD PORTRAY IT AS WELL IF
YOU WERE WEARING THE SAME
THING AS SOMEONE WHO WAS
SUPPOSED TO BE YOUR
EXACT OPPOSITE.

She says OKAY.
THERE'S A GOOD POINT, TOO.
OKAY, WE HAVE
HOMELANDS ONLINE.

Jessie says HI.

She says HI.
COULD YOU INTRODUCE
YOURSELF, PLEASE?

Jessie says I'M JESSIE.

She says HI, JESSIE.
GO AHEAD.

Jessie says
MY QUESTION IS FOR TAMARA.

She says OKAY.
YOU'RE BUSY, TAMARA.

Jessie says
DO YOU THINK YOUR BEHAVIOUR
OR MARKS WILL CHANGE
BY WHAT YOU WEAR?

Tamara says
I DON'T THINK SO.
I MEAN, IT'S VERY UNLIKELY
THAT CLOTHES AFFECT WHAT'S
INSIDE YOU.
I MEAN, IT'S NOT AS IF YOU
SAY, OKAY, I'M WEARING BLUE
JEANS AND A GREY SHIRT, OKAY,
NOW I'VE GOT TO BE SMARTER
AND MORE WELL BEHAVED.
IT DOESN'T MAKE A DIFFERENCE.
I THINK MY GRADES
WILL STAY THE SAME.

She says OKAY, GOOD.
GOOD QUESTION.
OKAY, WE CAN STILL TAKE
A FEW MORE QUESTIONS.
WE'VE HAD SOME WONDERFUL
QUESTIONS, HAVEN'T WE?
WE HAVE THE PINES ONLINE.

Chris says HI.

She says HI.
COULD YOU INTRODUCE
YOURSELF, PLEASE?

Chris says CHRIS.

She says HI, GO AHEAD.
WHO IS YOUR QUESTION
DIRECTED TO?

Chris says DAVID.

She says OKAY, GO AHEAD.

Chris says
IS IT COMFORTABLE
IN YOUR UNIFORM?

David says
UM, AT FIRST, LIKE, SINCE
YOU ARE JUST COMING OUT OF
WEARING CASUAL CLOTHES,
IT'S A BIT UNCOMFORTABLE.
AND BEFORE YOU GET IT WORKED
IN, IT'S ITCHY AND IT'S STIFF.
BUT AFTER A WHILE,
YOU GET IT WORKED IN.
IT'S JUST THE SAME EXCEPT YOU
HAVE A TIE AND BLAZER ON.

She says
WHEN YOU WEAR A UNIFORM TO
SCHOOL, DO THEY ALL WEAR THE
UNIFORM TO SCHOOL, OR DO
THEY PUT THEM ON AT SCHOOL?

David says
NO, EVERYONE WEARS
THEM TO SCHOOL.
BUT LIKE AFTER SCHOOL, I
WOULD, WHEN I TOOK THE BUS
HOME OR TTC, I JUST
CHANGE OUT OF THEM.

She says OKAY.
WHY WOULD YOU CHANGE
OUT OF YOUR UNIFORM?

David says
BECAUSE IT WAS COMFORTABLE.
I DIDN'T REALLY CARE IF
PEOPLE MADE FUN OF ME.
BUT IT'S JUST
MORE COMFORTABLE.

She says
BUT YOU SEE, IF EVERYBODY IN
ONTARIO WERE TO WEAR SCHOOL
UNIFORMS IN ALL THE SCHOOLS,
THEN I GUESS THAT WOULD END,
WOULDN'T IT?
NOBODY WOULD BE MAKING FUN OF
ANYONE 'COS EVERYBODY WOULD
BE IN SOME SORT OF A UNIFORM,
WHATEVER THEIR SCHOOL WOULD BE.

David confirms YEAH.

She says
OKAY, WE HAVE ANOTHER
CALL FROM HOMELANDS.
HI.

Jessica says
HI, IT'S JESSICA.

She says HI, JESSICA.

Jessica says
THIS IS FOR TAMARA.

She says OKAY, GO AHEAD.

Jessica says
HOW WOULD UNIFORMS TAKE AWAY
FROM YOUR INDIVIDUALITY?

Tamara says
WELL, IT'S NOT THAT, BUT IT'S
JUST LIKE, IT WOULD BE LIKE
SOMEONE -- YOU WOULD BE
WEARING THE SAME THING THAT
YOU WOULDN'T WANT TO WEAR,
AND THAT SOMEONE WHO IS
COMPLETELY OPPOSITE FROM YOU
IS WEARING, AND SOMEONE COULD
SAY, WELL, THEY'RE WEARING
THAT, SO THEY MUST BE LIKE THIS.
SO IT'S NOT TAKING AWAY FROM
YOUR INDIVIDUALITY, BUT IT'S
PUTTING YOU INTO A
CERTAIN GROUP OF PEOPLE.
SHE MUST BE LIKE THAT
BECAUSE SHE'S WEARING THAT.

She says GOOD, OKAY.
WHILE WE'RE WAITING FOR THE
NEXT PERSON TO CONNECT, DAVID,
I'M JUST GOING TO ASK YOU A
QUESTION, AND I'LL ASK THE
SAME ONE TO YOU, TAMARA.
WE'VE HEARD A LOT
OF GOOD QUESTIONS.
WHAT DO YOU THINK WAS A GOOD
QUESTION THAT WAS ASKED YOU?
A QUESTION THAT REQUIRED YOU
TO THINK, AND GIVE QUITE A
GOOD ANSWER?
CAN YOU THINK OF WHAT YOUR
BEST QUESTION WAS TODAY?

David says
UM, PROBABLY LIKE, WHY DO
I LIKE UNIFORMS AND WHY?

She says OKAY.
THAT WAS A GOOD ONE.
THAT CERTAINLY GAVE YOU A
LOT OF THINGS TO TALK ABOUT.
THAT GAVE A PRETTY
LONG ANSWER.
TAMARA, WHAT WAS YOUR
BEST QUESTION THAT YOU
RECEIVED TODAY?

Tamara says
I THINK, WHAT WOULD
I SAY AS MY ARGUMENT.
BECAUSE THAT GAVE ME A REAL
CHANCE TO EXPLAIN MY POINTS
ON WEARING A UNIFORM.

She says GOOD, OKAY.
WE HAD SOME
EXCELLENT QUESTIONS.
AND WE WILL TAKE MORE
OF YOUR QUESTIONS.
I'LL TAKE TWO MORE, THEN I'LL
GIVE THE VIRTUAL CHALLENGE,
IN CASE ANYONE HAS
TO LEAVE ON TIME.
AND AFTER THAT, WE'LL TAKE AS
MANY QUESTIONS UNTIL THEY CUT
US OFF, OKAY?
SO WE'LL KEEP THE
INTERVIEW GOING.
WE HAVE A CALLER
FROM THE PINES.
HI.

Tara Lynn says HI.

She says
COULD YOU INTRODUCE
YOURSELF, PLEASE?

Tara Lynn says I'M TARA LYNN.

She says HI.
AND WHO IS YOUR
QUESTION DIRECTED TO?

Tara Lynn says DAVID.

She says GREAT.
GO AHEAD.

Tara Lynn says
DON'T YOU FEEL UNCOMFORTABLE
WEARING THE SAME THING DAY
AFTER DAY?

David says
LIKE, WEARING THE SAME
THING AS IN, LIKE UNIFORM?

Tara Lynn says
WEARING THE SAME
OUTFIT DAY AFTER DAY?

David says WELL, YOU HAVE
DIFFERENT OPTIONS.
SOME DAYS YOU CAN WEAR SHORT
SLEEVE SHIRT, AND ON WARM DAYS
YOU CAN WEAR GREY SHORTS.
AND YOU HAVE GYM UNIFORMS
THAT YOU CAN CHANGE INTO.
SOMETIMES THEY'LL ALLOW
YOU NOT TO WEAR TIES.
AND ONCE A MONTH, AT THE
SCHOOL WHERE I WENT TO,
YOU WERE ALLOWED TO WEAR
WHATEVER YOU WANTED.
SO I DON'T KNOW, SOMETIMES I'D
FEEL A BIT, LIKE, I DIDN'T
WANT TO WEAR MY UNIFORM, BUT...

She says MM-HMM.
I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'RE AWARE
OUT THERE, I KNOW SOME OF YOU,
CERTAINLY A LOT OF YOU MAY
HAVE BEEN WITH US LAST YEAR IN
LANGUAGE ALIVE, AND IN OUR
LAST SERIES I HAD A GUEST, AND
HIS NAME WAS JOSEPH SUSSMAN,
AND HE CAME ON WINNING OUR
PUBLIC SPEAKING CONTEST.
AND WE WERE ALL SO
PROUD OF HIM BECAUSE HE IS
HEARING IMPAIRED.
DAVID IS HIS TWIN.
SO THIS IS OUR SECOND SUSSMAN
GUEST THAT WE'VE HAD HERE.
I DIDN'T KNOW IF ANY
OF YOU RECOGNIZE THAT.
THEY ARE IDENTICAL TWINS.

David says FRATERNAL.

She continues
WELL, YOU SORT OF
LOOK IDENTICAL TO ME.
SO SOME OF YOU MAY HAVE
WONDERED IF YOU'D SEEN THIS
PERSON BEFORE.
OKAY, WE HAVE ANOTHER
CALLER FROM HOMELANDS.

Chris say THIS IS CHRIS AT
HOMELANDS, AND MY QUESTION IS
WHY DO YOU THINK --
IT'S FOR BOTH OF THEM.
WHY DO YOU THINK IT IS THAT
THE PEOPLE WHO COMPLAIN
HARDEST ABOUT THE UNIFORMS,
ARE THE SAME PEOPLE WHO WILL
SPEND 85 DOLLARS ON A PAIR
OF GAP JEANS TO LOOK
JUST LIKE THEIR FRIENDS?

She says OH, NOW THERE'S A
VERY GOOD QUESTION.
OKAY, DAVID, WE'LL
START WITH YOU.

David says
UM, WELL, I THINK PEOPLE
ARE JUST AFRAID OF WEARING A
UNIFORM, AND THEY DON'T WANT
TO LOOK LIKE PEOPLE -- THEY
DON'T WANT TO BE MADE FUN OF.
AND I GUESS LIKE, HOW YOU SAY
THEY GO OUT TO THE GAP AND
BUY REALLY EXPENSIVE KHAKIS
OR JEANS BECAUSE THEY WANT
TO BE LIKE THEIR FRIENDS,
WELL PEOPLE WOULDN'T HAVE TO
DO THAT WITH THEIR UNIFORM
BECAUSE THEY'D ALL LOOK THE
SAME, THEY'D ALL
HAVE THE SAME THING.
AND PEOPLE THAT CAN'T GO TO
THE GAP AND GET WHATEVER THEY
WANT, THEY WOULDN'T BE ABLE
TO, WHAT WOULD THEY DO?
IT'S NOT FAIR TO THEM.

She says SO IT BREAKS DOWN THE
COMPETITION IF YOU CAN'T
AFFORD THOSE JEANS.
OKAY, THERE'S A GOOD ANSWER.
NOW, TAMARA, THIS ONE
ALSO WAS DIRECTED TO YOU.
IF WE'RE COMPLAINING WE DON'T
WANT TO WEAR UNIFORMS, AND
YET WE ACTUALLY ARE ALL
BUYING THE SAME CLOTHES.
EVERYBODY HAS THE SAME T-SHIRT
AND HAVE TO HAVE THE SAME STUFF.
IT SORT OF IS A
UNIFORM, ISN'T IT?

Tamara says
I THINK A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE
COMPLAINING ABOUT THE UNIFORMS
IS, WELL, IT'S JUST, IF
SOMEONE HAS THE SAME JEANS,
CHANCES ARE THEY'RE PROBABLY NOT
WEARING THE EXACT SAME THING.
BUT IF YOU HAVE A UNIFORM,
EVERYONE IS WEARING
THE SAME THING.
LIKE, IF SOMEONE BROUGHT THE
SAME JEANS AS ME, THEN IT
WOULDN'T MATTER BECAUSE
CHANCES ARE WE'D PROBABLY BE
WEARING A DIFFERENT TOP.

She says OKAY.
SO IT WOULDN'T BE
EXACTLY THE SAME THEN.
OKAY.
BUT IT IS INTERESTING THAT
PEOPLE ARE COMPLAINING, AND
YET, IF YOU LOOK AT OUR
SCHOOL, AND CHRIS, IF YOU CAME
TO OUR SCHOOL, I THINK THE
KIDS ARE WEARING A UNIFORM.
THEY'RE ALL SORT OF WEARING
THE BIG T-SHIRTS AND THEIR
JEANS ARE ALL THE SAME, SO
ESSENTIALLY, THEY'VE CREATED
THEIR OWN UNIFORM.
AND YOU'RE RIGHT, THEY
DO ALL LOOK THE SAME.
SO THAT WAS A
TERRIFIC QUESTION.
NOW, I'M JUST GOING TO HOLD
THE QUESTIONS FOR A MOMENT.
I WILL COME BACK TO YOU.
AND I WANT TO TAKE A FEW
MOMENTS AND SHOW YOU THE
VIRTUAL CHALLENGE.
SO LET'S JUST LOOK DOWN AT
THIS BEFORE WE RUN OUT OF TIME.

A blue paper sheet appears on screen divided in two columns: the one on the right reads “As an adult, it is...” followed by options like Verbal Harassment, Sexual Harassment, Racial Harassment, Discrimination, Mental Abuse, Social Isolation, Segregation, Threats, Intimidation, Slander, Physical Abuse, Physical Assault, Robbery, etc. The one on the left reads “But for students, bullying is...” The exercise states “name-calling, insults, rude or sarcastic remarks” followed by the space to elaborate.

She continues
NOW, I'VE PREPARED FOR YOU THE
ISSUE THAT WE ARE GOING TO
BE WORKING ON ON WEDNESDAY
IS ON THE ISSUE ON
THE SCHOOL BULLY.
AND WE'RE ACTUALLY GOING TO
CONDUCT AN ACTUAL TALK SHOW
ON AIR FOR YOU.
NOW, TO PREPARE FOR THAT,
YOUR TEACHERS HAVE THIS WORK
SHEET, AND IF THEY COULD RUN
THEM OFF FOR YOU, YOU ALL
COULD FILL OUT YOUR CHARTS.
AND I'VE ALSO SENT THE
TEACHERS AN ANSWER SHEET SO
YOU CAN TAKE THIS UP SO YOU
ALL HAVE DISCUSSED THIS AND
HAVE A GOOD UNDERSTANDING SO
YOU CAN PREPARE QUESTIONS AND
TAKE PART IN THE TALK SHOW.
NOW, IT SAYS, BULLYING, AS
AN ADULT, IT IS -- SO FOR
EXAMPLE, VERBAL HARASSMENT,
AND BESIDE IT, FOR STUDENTS,
THIS IS NAME CALLING, INSULTS,
RUDE OR SARCASTIC REMARKS.
SO YOU GO DOWN THE CHART AND
TRY TO FILL IN AS BEST AS
YOU CAN.
FOR EXAMPLE, THREATS
MIGHT BE NAME CALLING,
OR DISCRIMINATION MIGHT BE
LEAVING KIDS OUT OF TEAMS
AND SO ON.
SO TAKE YOUR CHART, FILL IT
OUT, AND TEACHERS, IF YOU COULD
TAKE THIS UP, BECAUSE I KNOW
YOU HAVE THE ANSWER SHEETS.
NOW, THE SECOND PART OF THE
VIRTUAL CHALLENGE IS I WANT
ALL OF YOU, AND I'M SURE YOU
WILL PROBABLY DO THIS ANYWAY,
I WANT YOU ALL TO TAKE A LOOK,
AND LOOK AT A FEW TALK SHOWS
BEFORE WEDNESDAY.
I WANT YOU TO BE ABLE TO COME
UP WITH SOME OF THE QUALITIES
OF A TALK SHOW.

A new hand-written blue paper sheet appears on screen. It reads “Virtual Challenge: 1. Complete the chart on ‘Bullying is…’ and 2. Watch a Talk Show and list its qualities.”

She continues
SO IF YOU WATCH TWO OR THREE
OF THEM, YOU DON'T HAVE TO
WATCH THEM IN THEIR ENTIRETY.
WE'LL BE DOING THAT FOR
OUR HOMEWORK ANOTHER DAY.
JUST FIGURE OUT, WHAT ARE SOME
QUALITIES OF A TALK SHOW?
NOW, GOOD INTERVIEWING
IS ONE ASPECT, FOR SURE.
AND CERTAINLY IN TODAY'S
LESSON, WE'VE ALL DONE A GREAT
JOB IN CREATING GOOD QUESTIONS
TO CONDUCT A GOOD INTERVIEW.
AND I THINK WE HAD A REALLY GOOD
INTERVIEW ONLINE HERE TODAY.
NOW, I WILL GO BACK AND
WE'LL TAKE SOME QUESTIONS.
AND JUST BEFORE WE DO, IN CASE
SOME OF YOU ARE SIGNING OFF,
I WANTED TO THANK MY GUESTS,
THAT'S DAVID SUSSMAN AND
TAMARA STEIN, FOR COMING ON
AND VERY BRAVELY ANSWERING
YOUR QUESTIONS.
IT'S NOT EASY TO BE LIVE
BECAUSE YOU HAVE NO TIME TO
PREPARE, AND YOU HAVE TO
JUST THINK ON THE SPOT.
THEY DID A VERY GOOD JOB, AND
I THANK THEM BOTH FOR COMING.
NOW, WE HAVE
HOMELANDS ON THE LINE.
HI.
HELLO?
PICK UP YOUR PHONE.
HOMELANDS?
OKAY, SO WE'LL MOVE
TO THE NEXT QUESTION.
WE HAVE PINES ONLINE.

Paul says HELLO?

She says HI.
COULD YOU INTRODUCE
YOURSELF, PLEASE?

Paul says PAUL SHEAR.

She says
OKAY, AND WHO IS YOUR
QUESTION DIRECTED TO?

Paul says DAVID.

She says
DAVID, OKAY, GO AHEAD.

Paul says
HOW LONG DID IT TAKE YOU
TO LEARN TO DO UP A TIE?

She says
THAT'S A VERY GOOD QUESTION.
BECAUSE I HAD A SON AT
PRIVATE SCHOOL FOR SIX YEARS,
AND HE STILL PUTS IT ON
OVER HIS HEAD AND LEAVES IT
ON THE BED POST.
THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION.

David says
HOW LONG DID IT TAKE ME?
I GUESS, ONCE YOU KEEP ON
DOING IT EVERY SINGLE DAY,
IT TOOK ME LIKE A WEEK, MAYBE,
MAYBE EVEN LESS BECAUSE I'M
PUTTING IT ON.
PLUS YOU ARE GOING TO GYM
CLASS, AND YOU HAVE TO DO IT
UP AGAIN THERE.
BUT I REMEMBER SOME PEOPLE
WHO COULDN'T DO UP A TIE, AND
THEY HAD TO ASK ME
TO DO IT UP FOR THEM.

She says
SO YOU WERE GOOD AT IT.
I KNOW MY SON, HE SORT OF
WOULD WIGGLE OUT OF THE TIE
AND GET IT OVER HIS HEAD.
AND MY GOSH, IF
ANYBODY EVER UNDID THE TIE,
HE'D BE IN BIG TROUBLE.
THAT WAS A GOOD QUESTION.
OKAY, WE'LL TAKE ANOTHER ONE.
WE'VE CERTAINLY HAD SOME VERY
GOOD QUESTIONS HERE TODAY.
AND WE HAVE THE PINES ONLINE.

Lisa says HELLO.

She says HI.
COULD YOU INTRODUCE
YOURSELF, PLEASE?

Lisa says MY NAME IS LISA.

She says HI, LISA.
AND YOUR QUESTION
IS DIRECTED TO?

Lisa says DAVID.

She says OKAY, GO AHEAD.

Lisa says
WHAT WOULD YOU DO IF YOU
WALKED INTO YOUR CLASSROOM AND
YOUR COLLAR WASN'T STRAIGHT
AND YOU GOT IN TROUBLE?

David says
WHAT WOULD I DO, OR WHAT
WOULD THE TEACHER DO?
She says
YOU COULD ANSWER BOTH.
THANK YOU FOR
CALLING THAT ONE IN.
DAVID, GO AHEAD.

David says
USUALLY, THEY'LL MAKE
YOU STAY IN, OR GIVE YOU
DETENTION, OR GIVE YOU EXTRA
WORK, OR MAKE YOU HELP OUT
AROUND SCHOOL.
LIKE, WHAT I WOULD DO, I WOULD
JUST GO WITH WHAT THEY TOLD
ME TO DO.
I GUESS I COULDN'T REALLY
ARGUE WITH IT BECAUSE EVERYONE
GETS IN TROUBLE
FOR DOING THAT.

She says
I GUESS PART OF IT, TOO, IS
IF EVERYONE IS GOING TO WEAR A
UNIFORM, THEN EVERYONE IS
GOING TO HAVE TO CONFORM, AND
THIN SOMEONE IS GOING TO
HAVE TO PATROL IT, RIGHT?
SO LIKE WHEN YOU ARE WEARING A
UNIFORM, LIKE, IF YOU WEREN'T
WEARING IT PROPERLY, I GUESS
THIS WAS ANOTHER WAY IN WHICH
PEOPLE HAD TO CONFORM
AT SCHOOL, IS IT?

David says YEAH.

She continues
SO THIS IS ALL PART OF SOME
OF THOSE BITS AND PIECES ON
THAT NEWS ARTICLE SAYING THIS
IS ALL PART OF KIDS ADHERING
TO RULES AND
STRUCTURE, ISN'T IT?
OKAY, WE'LL TAKE ANOTHER
CALL FROM HOMELANDS?

A Male Caller says
OKAY, THERE'S ONLY ACTUALLY
THREE OF US LEFT HERE BECAUSE
OUR SCHOOL IS ACTUALLY OVER.

She says SURE, OKAY.

The Male Caller says
MY QUESTION IS FOR DAVID.
IF WE ALL GET STUCK WITH
UNIFORMS, WHAT ARE SOME TRICKS
TO SHOW YOUR INDIVIDUALITY,
EVEN THOUGH YOU ARE WEARING
A UNIFORM?

She says
OH, THERE'S A GOOD QUESTION.

David says
WELL, I DON'T KNOW, SOMETIMES
I WOULD WEAR IT -- THEY GIVE
YOU SPECIFIC COLOUR
SOCKS TO WEAR.
LIKE GREY.
SO YOU CAN GET DIFFERENT
COLOURED SOCKS.
THAT'S WHAT I DID SOMETIMES.
YOU CAN GET DIFFERENT SIZE
PANTS, EITHER BAGGIE OR TIGHT.
YOU CAN UNDO YOUR TIE A BIT.
UNDO YOUR TOP BUTTON.
THERE'S A LOT OF
DIFFERENT WAYS YOU COULD.
THERE'S DIFFERENT
TYPES OF SHOES.
YOU CAN GET SLIP-INS, OR
YOU CAN GET TIE-UP SHOES.

She says
I KNOW THAT MY DAUGHTER, WHAT
SHE USED TO DO, OR SHE STILL
DOES, IS NORMALLY THE GIRLS
ARE SUPPOSED TO HAVE THEIR
KNEE SOCKS PULLED UP STRAIGHT,
AND SO WHAT THEY WOULD DO IS
THEY'D PUSH THE KNEE SOCKS DOWN
SO THEY WOULDN'T BE STRAIGHT.
SO THAT WAS A GOOD QUESTION
BECAUSE THERE'S ALWAYS GOING
TO BE WAYS IN WHICH KIDS ARE
GOING TO TRY AND NOT CONFORM
TO THE EXACT UNIFORM TYPE.
OKAY, WE HAVE ONE LAST CALL,
AND THEN WE ARE GOING TO HAVE
TO SIGN OFF.

Ashley says I'M ASHLEY.

She says HI, ASHLEY.
AND YOUR QUESTION?

Ashley says
I HAVE TWO QUESTIONS.
WHERE'S HOMELANDS?

She says
I'M NOT EXACTLY SURE.
THAT'S JUST THE
NAME OF THE SCHOOL.
I'M NOT EXACTLY SURE OF
WHAT THE LOCATION IS.

Ashley says OKAY, I HAVE A
QUESTION FOR TAMARA.

She says OKAY.

Ashley says
WHAT DO YOU THINK IS
SO BAD ABOUT A UNIFORM?

She says OKAY.

Tamara says
I THINK IT WOULD BE
UNCOMFORTABLE, AND EVERYONE
WEARING THE SAME THING WOULD
KIND OF LOOK WEIRD TO ME
AND BE KIND OF STRANGE.
I'D FEEL STRANGE IF THE WHOLE
SCHOOL WAS WEARING THE EXACT
SAME THING I DID.

She concludes OKAY.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
AND JUST FOR YOUR INFORMATION,
HOMELANDS IS IN MISSISSAUGA.
SO THANK YOU FOR
JOINING US TODAY.
WE'LL LOOK FORWARD TO
SEEING YOU ON WEDNESDAY.
TAKE A LOOK AT YOUR
BULLYING CHARTS.
GET THOSE ALL FILLED OUT.
AND BE WATCHING A
TALK SHOW TO GET READY
FOR WEDNESDAY'S SHOW.
SO BYE FOR NOW.

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