Transcript: Ann Wilson | Aug 11, 1994

(Lyrical theme music plays)

A clip shows a woman's face in the mist, a boat on a river, a man's face and tree
branches in a snowstorm, lilies in a pond, a farmhouse totally blanketed by snow,
a setting sun, an aerial view of a lake and a man's face over rushing water. Then
a small plane flies over a lake.

"TALK TO ME SO I
CAN HEAR YOUR VOICE
LIKE A LAKE SO
DEEP AND CLEAR
SOARING THROUGH THE
TOPS OF THE TREES
DANCING BY MY WINDOW
LIKE A WIND BLOWING
THROUGH MY DOOR
DISTANT VOICES
DISTANT VOICES
DISTANT VOICES
DISTANT VOICES."

Against a colourful mural of Native American art depicting a ceremony, a gray-haired
woman with a strong profile speaks. A caption reads "Ann Wilson, Elder."

Ann says EVEN ME SOMETIMES,
WHEN I MAKE A LITTLE
MISTAKE, THE WIND WILL
REMIND ME I'VE DONE
SOMETHING I DIDN'T DO.
LIKE AT MY HOUSE, THERE
WAS A BIG WHIRLWIND,
AND I KNOW I'D DONE
SOMETHING I WASN'T
SUPPOSED TO DO.
AND I KNOW WHAT IT IS.
SO RIGHT AWAY I TRIED
TO CORRECT THAT.
AND SOMETIMES I LEAVE
ONE LITTLE THING OUT,
AND I'M REMINDED AGAIN.
THE SAME THING OVER.
IT ALMOST HAPPENS THE
SAME WAY EACH TIME,
SO I KNOW WHAT IT IS.
THOSE ARE THE SIGNS THAT PEOPLE
HAVE TO START LOOKING AT.
IT'S THE SIGNS THAT IT'S THE CREATOR
TRYING TO CORRECT THINGS.

(eerie music plays)

A loon swims across a lake. A title caption reads "Distant Voices."
A further caption reads "with Eva Solomon, C.S.J."
[loon calling]
Eva, in her forties, wearing a fringed yellow leather jacket and a
blue bead necklace, sits facing the camera.
(Native American Indian wind music plays)

Over the misty shore of a lake, a rising caption reads "Ann Wilson is
considered by some as a medicine woman, and is a respected elder of her
region. She is a pipe carrier and recently hosted a gathering of Ojibway
women pipe carriers in northwestern Ontario. born and raised on the Manitou
Rapids Reserve, she remembers and mourns a way of life she says can never be
reclaimed. As a carrier of the knowledge about the sacred songs... the Bear
Song, the Wolf Song and the Turtle Song, she cautions about using them out of
context of the ceremonies from which they came."

Eva says WHEN YOU TALKED ABOUT
HOW THE TRADITIONS
ARE NO LONGER THE WAY
THEY USED TO BE,
AND THE SENSE OF
LOSS THAT'S THERE,
YOU ALSO TALKED ABOUT
VARIOUS SOCIETIES,
IF YOU WANT, OR SPECIAL
ROLES THAT PEOPLE HAD.
AND I'M NOT SURE HOW
TO DESCRIBE THEM,
BUT MAYBE YOU COULD
TALK ABOUT THEM.
THE WAY I THINK OF IT
WOULD BE THERE WERE PEOPLE
WHOSE ROLE WAS
AS THE HEALERS,
AND THERE WERE OTHER
PEOPLE WHO WERE PERHAPS
THE SPIRITUAL GUIDES,
AND THE MEDAWIN
SOCIETY AND SO ON...
THAT THERE WERE
SPECIAL PEOPLES
AND TYPES OF CEREMONIES.

Ann says YEAH, THE SPECIAL
PEOPLE WERE THE MEDAWIN
PEOPLE, THAT HAD THEIR OWN
THINGS THAT THEY HAD TO DO.
I WOULDN'T KNOW WHAT TO
CALL THEM RIGHT NOW,
BUT I KNOW THEY HAD THEIR
HIGHER INTELLIGENCE.

Eva says DIFFERENT LEVELS?

Ann says YEAH, DIFFERENT
LEVELS OF INTELLIGENCE
THERE, THAT THEY USED TO
CONDUCT THE DIFFERENT
DEGREES OF THAT SOCIETY.
WHEN IT GOT TO
THE HIGHEST DEGREE,
THEN YOU REALLY HAD TO
FULFILL THAT BEHAVIOUR.
THAT BEHAVIOUR, YOU'RE
JUST LIKE THE CREATOR.

Old black and white photos and engravings show medicine men, some almost naked
and others in ceremonial outfits, practicing rites.

Ann continues YOU'RE NOT TO DO THIS,
YOU'RE NOT TO DO THAT.
IT'S A VERY HARD...
TO ME I THOUGHT,
WHEN I USED TO
THINK OF IT...
IT WAS VERY HARD TO
LIVE BY THAT, YOU KNOW?
HOW COULD YOU LIVE
THAT HIGH AND...
YOU KNOW, WITHOUT
HURTING ANYBODY?
SO I WOULD NEVER, I
NEVER EVEN THOUGHT OF
EVEN TO BEGIN WITH
ONE DEGREE, YOU KNOW?
AFTER I FOUND OUT WHAT IT
WAS LIKE TO BE, BECAUSE
I WAS AFRAID THAT I WOULD,
IF I TRIED TO BE ONE OF THEM,
I WOULD BE HURTING
SOMEBODY, YOU KNOW?
NOT ONLY ME BUT
SOMEBODY ELSE, TOO.
SO THAT'S WHY I NEVER FELT...
I WAS NOT GOOD ENOUGH
TO BE IN THAT POSITION.
BECAUSE OF WHAT THEY ARE
SUPPOSED TO GO THROUGH.
THAT IS A VERY HIGH
DEGREE OF LIVING.
IT'S NOT HOW YOU CAN'T... YOU
CAN'T EVEN FOOL AROUND.
YOU CAN'T EVEN TEASE,
YOU CAN'T EVEN,
YOU KNOW, JUST SAYING
LITTLE THINGS.

Eva says JOKE AND HAVE FUN.

Ann says NOT EVEN JOKING.
BECAUSE EVERYTHING THAT
COMES OUT OF YOUR MOUTH,
OR COMES OUT OF YOU,
IS COMING FROM YOU.
IT'S NOT A JOKE.
(native wind music plays)

Eva says YOU'RE OFTEN
CONSIDERED BY OTHER
PEOPLE, THOUGH, AS
A MEDICINE PERSON.
AND I'M AWARE THAT
YOU GATHERED THE PIPE
CARRIERS, THE WOMEN
PIPE CARRIERS
OF THE REGION TOGETHER.

Ann says YES, I'VE RECEIVED
A PIPE THROUGH
THE MYSTICAL PEOPLE.
THROUGH THE MYSTICALNESS
OF THE ENVIRONMENT.
THAT'S HOW I
RECEIVED MY PIPE.
IT CAME TO ME
IN A VOICE.
IT CAME TO ME, AND THEN
I WAITED FOR THAT VOICE.
IT WAS GIVEN TO ME
BY A SPIRIT, I GUESS.

Eva says YEAH.

(music plays)

Ann says THAT SENT LIKE, WHEN
THEY USED THE TRUNK OF A TREE
FROM THE BIRCH TREE,
HE WAS SUPPOSED TO BE
HELPING THE NATIVE PEOPLE
KEEP THE FIRE GOING,
KEEP THE COAL
GOING IN THE PIPE.

Brown fungi appear on a large white birch bole.

Ann continues AND THAT'S THE
FIRST THING I HEARD,
WAS THROUGH THAT.
AND IT KEPT MAKING THAT
NOISE, SORT OF LIKE,
"HEY!" SOMEBODY GOING
LIKE THAT TO YOU.
AND WE WERE HAVING
LUNCH OUTSIDE,
AND THIS IS OUT
AWAY IN THE STICKS,
AND THE GUY I WAS WITH
THERE WAS SAYING...
FINALLY, I GUESS IT
HIT HIM TOO... HE SAYS,
DO YOU HEAR THAT THING?
AND I SAID, "YEAH, I HEAR IT.
I KNOW WHAT THAT
IS," I SAYS TO HIM.
AND HE SAID, "AREN'T
YOU GOING TO DO
ANYTHING ABOUT IT?"
"NO," I SAYS, "WHY
SHOULD I? I DON'T HAVE
THAT PIPE. BUT, I SAYS, MAYBE I'M
SUPPOSED TO HAVE ONE.
I DON'T KNOW THAT.
BUT I WILL KNOW LATER."
SO WE JUST LET
IT GO AT THAT.
I DIDN'T DO NOTHING, I
DIDN'T PUT NO TOBACCO
DOWN OR ANYTHING.
BUT WHEN I GOT HOME... IT
WAS A FEW DAYS LATER,
LIKE WE WERE PICKING
WILD RICE THAT TIME.
WE DIDN'T GO HOME RIGHT AWAY.
I THINK WE PICKED
A COUPLE MORE DAYS.
BUT WE STARTED
HAVING CRAZY DREAMS.
SO WE WENT HOME.
WE THOUGHT, OH, GEE
SOMETHING IS HAPPENING AT HOME.
SO I GOT HOME, AND I WAS
GOING TO STOP
IN THUNDER BAY
AND I DIDN'T.
I WAS GOING TO STOP
AND SAY HELLO TO
MY BROTHER-IN-LAW, BUT
I MUST HAVE KNEW
HE WASN'T HOME.
I KNEW WHEN I GOT HOME,
AFTER I SPREAD ALL
THE RICE OUT OUTSIDE
AND DRIED IT UP,
AND I WAS GOING TO GO
TO WORK THE NEXT DAY.
I WENT INSIDE AND I MADE
A CUP OF TEA FOR MYSELF.
I WAS ALONE.
AND PRETTY SOON I HEARD
A KNOCK ON THE DOOR.
HEARD A KNOCK ON THE DOOR,
AND I SAID, "COME IN."
AND THE DOOR OPENED,
THERE'S RICHARD,
MY BROTHER-IN-LAW.
AND THEN I SAID,
"OH, COME IN."
I SAID, "NO WONDER I DIDN'T
STOP IN THUNDER BAY.
I WONDER WHATEVER TOLD
ME NOT TO STOP THERE."
HE SAID, "I WAS GONE
OVER HERE FOR SO LONG."
I THINK HE SAID HE WAS
GONE FOR THREE WEEKS.
SO ANYWAY, HE SAYS, "I'VE
GOT SOMETHING FOR YOU."
OKAY, I SAYS, BRING IT IN.
HE BROUGHT IN THIS LITTLE PARCEL.
I OPENED IT.
I OPENED IT, AND IT
WAS A PIPE THERE.
I PICKED IT UP...
"FOR YOU," HE SAYS.
HOLY GOD, I DIDN'T
KNOW WHAT TO SAY.
I DIDN'T KNOW
WHAT TO THINK.
BECAUSE I SAID, "I
ALREADY KNEW THIS.
I WAS GOING TO SEE A PIPE."
SO I DIDN'T SAY
ANYTHING TO HIM.
I DIDN'T TELL
HIM WHAT I HEARD.

Eva says YEAH.

Ann says UNTIL THE DAY I
ASKED HIM TO BLESS IT
FOR ME FIRST TIME
BEFORE I USED IT.
(native wind music plays)

A stream fed by a spring appears. The colourful artwork appears again, showing
both male and female participants.

Eva says ANN REMEMBERS A
TIME WHEN SPRING WATER
KEPT FOODS COLD, AND
NOTHING WAS WASTED.
SHE TELLS ONE STORY OF
VISITING HER GRANDMOTHER'S
HOUSE YEARS AFTER
SHE HAD DIED,
AND FINDING A BIRCHBARK
BASKET FULL OF BLUEBERRIES
SHE HAD DRIED.
TODAY SHE STILL REMEMBERS
HOW SWEET THEY TASTED
WHEN HER MOTHER GAVE SOME TO HER.
Ann says I REMEMBER ONE DAY
WHEN THERE WAS...
A LITTLE CALF WAS
BORN IN THE WOODS,
AND MY GRANDMOTHER SAYS,
I WANT YOU TO HELP ME.
I DIDN'T KNOW WHY SHE
WANTED ME TO HELP HER
BECAUSE I WAS SO SMALL.
BUT I UNDERSTOOD HER.
I UNDERSTOOD THAT SHE
REALLY NEEDED HELP.
SO I SAID OKAY, I WOULD GO.
SO I WENT, AND SHE
GAVE ME THE REINS
OF THE HORSE LIKE THIS.
IT HAD A DRAY, AND
THERE WAS HAY THERE.
SO SHE PUT THE
LITTLE CALF ON THERE,
AND SHE TOLD ME TO
TELL THE HORSE TO GO.
SO SHE MADE THE HORSE GO,
AND I COULD REMEMBER
THAT HORSE LOOKING BACK...

Eva chuckles and says AT YOU.

Ann says YEAH, JUST LIKE HE
KNEW THERE WAS GOING
TO BE SOMEBODY ELSE.
AND I WAS KIND OF AFRAID,
BUT I KNEW I HAD TO HELP
BECAUSE SHE WAS TRYING TO
PROTECT THIS LITTLE THING
FROM GETTING TRAMPLED
ON BY THE MOTHER
BECAUSE THE MOTHER WAS
REALLY ANGRY, YOU KNOW,
HOW IT IS WHEN YOU ARE
TRYING TO PROTECT YOUR -

Eva says LITTLE ONE.

Ann says AND SHE WAS
HOLDING THAT COW BACK.
SO ANYWAY, SHE TOLD ME TO
RUN... THAT HORSE TOOK OFF.
AND THAT HORSE, HE
KNEW WHERE TO GO,
BUT I HAD TO HANG
ON TO THE REINS.
SO HE GOT TO THE BARN.
AND WHEN I GOT TO THE BARN
WAS ANOTHER SURPRISE,
BECAUSE THE HORSE WENT RIGHT IN,
AND THE BARN WAS ALREADY
CLEANED AND READY, YOU KNOW?
AND WE JUST WALKED IN, AND
SHE WAS RIGHT BEHIND US.
AND SHE GOT THE COW IN THERE,
AND RIGHT AWAY SHE LOOKED
AFTER HER LITTLE ONE
AND EVERYTHING WAS OKAY.
AND I KNOW ANIMALS
UNDERSTAND THE LANGUAGE TOO.
YOU TALK TO THEM.
AS I REMEMBER, I HAD A
LITTLE BIRD THAT USED
TO GET OUT OF THE CAGE,
AND I USED TO TELL HIM,
IN MY LANGUAGE, THAT HE
WAS GOING TO STARVE
IF HE GOT AWAY FROM ME.
AND HE'D COME BACK
TO THE CAGE AGAIN.
[laughing]
SO THOSE ARE THINGS
THAT I NEVER FORGET.
YEAH. I KNOW THOSE
THINGS UNDERSTAND YOU
WHEN YOU'VE BEEN A
LITTLE WHILE WITH THEM,
THEY MUST UNDERSTAND
BECAUSE I USED TO
CALL HIM LITTLE PIYESIS.

Eva says LITTLE BIRD?

Ann says YEAH.
USED TO CALL HIM LITTLE
BIRD ALL THE TIME.

A squirrel scampers at the foot of a tree. A bluejay sits and cocks his head at
the camera.

Ann continues WHEN I GREW UP
A LITTLE BIT,
I LIVED WITH MY
GRANDPARENTS,
MY GRANDFATHER AND
MY GRANDMOTHER.
SHE WASN'T REALLY
MY DAD'S MOTHER,
SHE WAS A STEP-GRANDMOTHER TO ME.
BUT SHE MEANT WELL TO ME
BECAUSE SHE TAUGHT
ME LOTS OF THINGS.
NOT BY TEACHING, BUT BY
SEEING WHAT SHE DID,
AND THE WAY SHE WORKED,
AND THE THINGS
SHE'D DONE SO KINDLY.
AND THAT'S WHAT I LEARNED...
TO BE KIND WITH PEOPLE
BECAUSE SHE WAS EVEN
KIND TO THE ANIMALS.
BECAUSE EVERYTHING
THAT I'D SEEN OUTSIDE
SHE TOLD ME ABOUT
WAS GOD'S CREATION.
AND SHE DIDN'T SAY IT LIKE THAT,
BUT THAT'S THE ONLY WAY
I CAN EXPLAIN IT TO YOU,
-- THIS IS GOD'S CREATION,
BUT EVERYTHING SHE SAID
WAS IN HER LANGUAGE,
SHE SAID "MONETEWAN."
AND I SAID I MIGHT AS WELL
SAY THOSE WORDS BECAUSE
I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT
TO KNOW THE MEANING
OF THOSE WORDS FOR
OUR YOUNG PEOPLE.
BECAUSE WE ARE LOSING A LOT
OF WHAT THE OLD PEOPLE
USED TO SAY ABOUT
THINGS THAT MEANT SO MUCH
TO THEM, THAT WE DON'T
EVEN THINK OF THAT
WHEN WE SEE THEM TODAY,
THEY ARE NOT APPRECIATED
LIKE THEY DID.
BECAUSE WE JUST THINK IT'S
GRASS, AND THAT'S IT.
AND WE CUT IT,
AND EVERYTHING,
BUT THEY DIDN'T KNOW
THAT GRASS WAS MEANT,
IT WAS USED FOR CUSHIONS
AND EVERYTHING ELSE.
SO THERE WAS A LOT,
A LOT OF THINGS
THAT I'VE SEEN WHEN
I WAS GROWING UP
THAT... THAT WAS REALLY
CHERISHED BY THOSE PEOPLE,
OR WHOEVER KNEW THOSE THINGS.
SO THAT'S WHAT I
LEARNED FROM THEM.
AND THEN THE WAY
THEY TOOK AFTER...
THEY LOOKED AFTER
THE ANIMALS,
THEY ALREADY HAD A FARM,
AND THEY HAD COWS
AND HORSES AND
CHICKENS AND RABBITS,
AND PIGS AND
EVERYTHING THEY HAD
WAS... MEANT...
SOMETHING TO THEM.
IT WAS FOOD FOR THE TABLE
AND ONCE IN A WHILE,
WE HAD A MOOSE, AND
ONCE IN A WHILE WE HAD
STURGEON, AND DIFFERENT
KINDS OF FISH WAS MADE
INTO DIFFERENT WAYS OF
EATING FISH BECAUSE
WE DIDN'T HAVE A
FRIDGE AT THAT TIME.
I REMEMBER I USED
TO MAKE MILK,
OR MAKE BUTTER OUT OF
THE CREAM THAT SHE USED
TO PUT IN LITTLE JARS, AND
WE USED TO SHAKE IT
FOR HER TO MAKE
BUTTER WITH.
I REMEMBER THAT.
I REMEMBER ALL THE TASTES
THAT I HAD WHEN I WAS
LITTLE, BECAUSE EVERYTHING
THAT THEY COOKED SEEMED
LIKE IT WAS COOKED
WITH THEIR OWN WAYS,
AND IT SEEMED LIKE
IT HAD THE POWER,
THE MEDICINES IN IT
ALREADY TO NURTURE YOU.
BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT
SHE TAUGHT US ALSO.
EVERYTHING WE ATE WAS
MADE WITH SOME KIND
OF MEDICINE THAT ANIMALS
ATE THEMSELVES.
THOSE ARE THE THINGS
I LEARNED FROM HER.

Eva says WHEN YOU TALK, ANNIE,
MOST OF WHAT YOU TALK ABOUT
IS YOU ARE SAYING "THAT'S
WHAT I FEEL ANYWAY."
AND ONE OF THE THINGS
THAT SEEMS TO BE VERY
SIGNIFICANT... ABOUT THE
LANGUAGE EVEN...
IS THAT IT COMES
FROM THE HEART.
SO WHAT YOU'RE
SAYING IS "FEELING,"
BUT IT SAYS A LOT OF THE
WORDS THAT WAY, TOO.

Ann says YEAH.
LOTS OF THOSE WORDS MEAN...
IT COMES FROM THE WAY YOU
FEEL BECAUSE I'M DOING
THINGS THAT PEOPLE
WANT ME TO TALK
TO THEM ABOUT.
LIKE IN MY LANGUAGE,
IT'S CALLED
[speaking native language]
IT MEANS YOU CARE AND
LOVE PEOPLE TO SHARE
WHATEVER YOU HAVE.

A pencil portrait shows Ann at around forty, with an intense look in her eyes.
The camera homes in on her right eye.

Ann continues AND IF IT'S GOING
TO BENEFIT THEM,
MAYBE YOU CAN FOLLOW SOME
OF THOSE THINGS THAT
I WAS TALKING ABOUT,
THINGS THAT WAS SHARED
BY SEEING WHAT I SEEN.
IT WAS NOT BECAUSE
I WAS TOLD TO DO THEM.
IT WAS THE WAY I
SEEN THE PEOPLE.
THAT'S THE ONLY WAY
YOU ARE GOING TO LEARN
ANYTHING IS BY SEEING.

Eva says BY OBSERVING.

Ann says YEAH, OBSERVING
WHAT YOU SAW.
THAT'S WHAT I THINK
ABOUT CHILDREN WHEN
THEY ARE IN THE CRADLEBOARD.
WHEN THEY ARE TIED IN THERE,

Native mothers sit together, rocking their babies, who are tied to cradleboards.

Ann continues THEY LEARN THOSE THINGS
WITH THEIR EYES, AND
WHAT THEY HEAR,
AND WHAT THEY REALLY
SEE AND HEAR, I GUESS,
IS WHAT I WANT TO SEE,
IS THAT HOW THEY SEE
THE GOOD, AND BESIDES,
WHEN THEY ARE DOING THE
THINGS, AND IF YOU ARE
EVEN TALKING TO SOMEBODY
ELSE, YOU ARE STILL
LEARNING SOMETHING
BY THE WAY THAT PERSON IS
TALKING TO ANOTHER PERSON.

Eva says EVEN THE CRADLEBOARD
IN ITSELF HAS A LOT OF
MEANING AND TEACHING
IN WHAT IT IS.
FOR EXAMPLE, WHEN THEY
HAVE THE BABY ALL
STRAPPED UP IN IT, ONE OF
THE THINGS THEY SAY
THE PURPOSE FOR THAT IS THE
CHILD LEARNS DISCIPLINE.

Ann says YEAH BECAUSE THE
WAY IT'S TIED, EVEN,
LIKE YOU TIE EACH
ONE LEG SEPARATE.
SO HE DOESN'T TOUCH
HIS FEET OVER HERE,
OR HIS KNEES OVER
HERE, AND HIS ARMS
ARE TIED THE SAME WAY.
THERE'S A SEPARATE
CLOTH AGAIN THAT COMES.
TIE THESE
SEPARATE AGAIN.
AND ALL HE DOES IS THIS.
AND MOVE HIS NECK.
AND HIS EYES.

She demonstrates with movements of her head.

Ann continues YOU CAN TELL HOW - WHEN
YOU LOOK AT A CHILD
IN A CRADLE, YOU CAN
TELL HE IS LEARNING
BECAUSE THOSE LITTLE
EYES HAVE AN EXPRESSION.

Forest and lakeside scenes appear-
(native wind music plays)

Eva says ANN'S COMMITMENT TO
THE LAND COMES OUT OF
THE SENSE THAT IT IS THE
SAME AS OUR OWN BODIES,
AND THAT OUR CARE FOR IT
SHOULD BE AS PERSONAL.
SHE REMEMBERS THE TIME OF
THE OLD PEOPLE WHEN THEY
USED PRAYER IN THEIR OWN
LANGUAGE TO PRAY
FOR THE WILD RICE.
ONLY THEY DIDN'T SAY
IT WAS WILD RICE.
IT WAS A BEING WHOSE HAIR
WAS COMBED AND BRUSHED
BY THE PEOPLE HARVESTING IT.

Ann says MY AUNT USED
TO ALWAYS SAY THAT
SHE ALWAYS THOUGHT SHE
WALKED THE SHORELINES
FOR A LONG TIME 'TIL
SHE CAME OUT.
AND THE FIRST THING
SHE HEARD WAS A SHOT.
[chuckling]
I LAUGHED AT HER WHEN
SHE WAS TELLING ME THAT.
SHE SAYS, AND THAT'S WHY
I KNOW IT'S MY BIRTHDAY,
SHE SAYS, ON 4TH OF JULY
I WAS BORN, SHE SAYS.
THAT'S WHY I SAY IT WAS
ALWAYS A DIFFERENT STORY.
FROM WHEN YOU WERE BORN,
WHERE YOU CAME FROM.
THEY NEVER TOLD YOU HOW...
THAT'S WHAT I SAY
ABOUT WHEN YOU TALK
ABOUT SEX TODAY,
THEY DIDN'T TALK ABOUT THAT.
AT THAT TIME THEY DIDN'T
SAY YOU CAME FROM THERE.
IT WAS A SACRED PLACE
WHERE YOU CAME FROM.
AND I THINK THIS WAS
A PLACE OF SAYING IT
INSTEAD OF USING
SEX AS A, YOU KNOW...

Eva says IT'S GIVING THE
SENSE OF A SACRED PLACE,
EACH PERSON HAS A SACRED ORIGIN.

Ann says YEAH, THAT'S WHAT I
THINK IT WAS INSTEAD OF
DOING WHAT YOU'RE DOING
TODAY, BECAUSE IT JUST
SEEMS LIKE WHEN YOU GO TO
A PLACE WHERE THEY TALK
ABOUT AIDS AND ALL THOSE
SEXUAL ASSAULT THINGS,
AND EVERYTHING LIKE
THAT... I NEVER HEARD
THOSE THINGS
WHEN I WAS YOUNG.
YOU KNOW?
EVEN AFTER I
BECAME A WOMAN,
I STILL NEVER
HEARD THOSE.
BUT I ALWAYS HEARD
IN A DIFFERENT WAY,
A BETTER WAY FOR
ME TO UNDERSTAND
IT WAS SOMETHING
YOU DIDN'T ABUSE.
IT WAS SOMETHING YOU
HAD TO TAKE CARE OF.
THAT'S THE WAY
I LEARNED IT.
SO THOSE ARE THE THINGS
THAT PEOPLE SHOULD TRY
TO MAKE UP FOR THE
THINGS THAT WE LOST.
LIKE TO BRING BACK
THAT CULTURE OF... SEX.

(native wind music plays)

Eva says THAT AWARENESS
OF THE SACREDNESS.
THERE'S A PHRASE,
OR AN EXPRESSION
IN THE COMMUNITIES OF NATIVE
WOMEN AS THE ONES
WHO WILL BRING HEALING
TO THE COMMUNITY,
AND THAT THE WOMEN
THEMSELVES REALLY ARE
THE HEALING MEDICINE
FOR OUR PEOPLE.

Ann says YES. THEY ARE.
THEY ARE BY THE WAY
THEY CARRY THEMSELVES
AS ROLE-MODELS.
THAT'S HOW WE GRADE
OUR WAY OF LIFE,
IS THROUGH THE PIPE
AND THE FEATHER,
AND ALL THE OTHER SACRED
THINGS THAT YOU CARRY.
BECAUSE WE ALSO
HAVE A JINGLE DRESS
THAT WE HAVE TO RESPECT.
BECAUSE A JINGLE DRESS WAS
NOT MADE TO MAKE FUN OF.
JINGLE DRESS WAS MADE
BECAUSE THERE
WAS ENVIRONMENTAL IRON
IN THE EARTH,
AS WELL AS THE OTHER
THINGS WE HAVE.

Native women dance wearing colourful jingle dresses.
(metal shards jingling)
(tom-toms beating)

Ann continues LIKE OUR PIPE IS MADE OF
STONE, AND MADE OF WOOD,
AND ALL THOSE THINGS
THAT GO TOGETHER.
SAME WITH THE
JINGLE DRESS,
IT'S MADE OUT OF FIBRE AND
IRON AND EVERYTHING ELSE.

A full-screen caption reads "The jingle dress was given to women in a dream,
and the sound of it is thought to be the healing rain as it falls on Mother
Earth."
(tom-toms beating)

Ann continues I SEE A LOT OF
CHANGE IN PEOPLE.
THERE USED TO
BE A LOT OF DRINKING
ALL OVER THE PLACE.
I DON'T SEE HARDLY
ANY OF THAT ANYMORE.
I SEE MORE OF...
THERE IS MORE FUN,
BUT NOT THE SAME KIND
OF FUN I USED TO SEE
EITHER A LONG TIME AGO.
THERE, SOMETIMES
THERE'S A LITTLE
TOO MUCH COMPETITION.
I SEE THAT.
BUT THAT'S GOOD, TOO.
YOUR PERFORMANCE ALWAYS
HAS TO PLEASE SOMEBODY ELSE,
BUT SOMETIMES I'M
HAPPY BECAUSE
THEY'RE DOING THAT.
AT LEAST THEY'RE
IN SOMETHING.

Eva says BUT NOT AT SOMEBODY
ELSE'S EXPENSE.

Ann says YEAH, YEAH,
THOSE ARE THE THINGS
THAT I SEE TODAY
ALL OVER, YOU KNOW?
IT'S A LITTLE BIT OF THIS,
A LITTLE BIT OF THAT.
SO I HAVE HOPE.
I CAN'T SAY I DON'T.
BUT I'M HOPING IT WOULD
HAPPEN SOME DAY IN MY
LIFETIME THAT PEOPLE WILL
ALL COME TOGETHER AGAIN
AND BE WHO THEY
ARE SUPPOSED TO BE.
SPEAK THE LANGUAGE
THAT IS SO IMPORTANT,
HOW IT USED TO BE.
AND IT'S NOT ONLY
JUST LANGUAGE...
THE HARMONY IS
IN IT, THE LAUGHTER
THAT'S INCLUDED IN THERE IS
WHAT MAKES PEOPLE LAUGH.
I GUESS THAT'S PART
OF HEALING, EVEN,
IS WHEN YOU HAVE LAUGHTER.

Eva says ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU
CAN LAUGH AT YOURSELF.

Ann says YEAH, LAUGH
AT YOURSELF, YES.
THAT'S WHAT
NANABUSH USED TO DO,
I GUESS, LAUGH
AT EVERYTHING.

(Lyrical native music plays)
Over shots of the wooded lake shore, the End Credits roll.

Produced by Jim Hanley, Jim Hyder.

Coproduced and Written by Patricia Michael.

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