Transcript: The Environmental Grapevine | Jun 11, 1990

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Outside a diner, a man reads the paper, another man juggles and a magician plays tricks. The name “The science Café” appears in neon lights on one of the windows. Inside, the waitress shows a menu that reads “The Science Café proudly offers food for thought. Fragile Nature Forum. The environmental grapevine. Producer and director: Michael Kushner. Researcher: Nadine Galszechy.”

A caption reads “Doctor Wayne Evans. Environment Canada. Atmospheric Environment Service.”

Wayne is in his late forties, clean-shaven and with short straight brown hair. He wears glasses, a blue suit, white shirt and a black tie with white spots.

He says WELL, THE ROLE THAT I
SEE SCIENTISTS PLAYING
IN THE LARGER AREA OF
ENVIRONMENTAL CONCERN,
IS TO ASSIST IN RAISING
THE PUBLIC AWARENESS
OF THE ENVIRONMENTAL
PROBLEMS.
I FEEL THAT WE SHOULD
NOT HAVE A LARGER VOTE
THAN ANY OTHER INDIVIDUAL
IN THE ACTUAL LEGISLATION
OR REGULATIONS THAT COME
FORTH TO SOLVING PROBLEMS.
THE ROLE WE SHOULD PLAY IS
TO CONDUCT THE RESEARCH
AND TO HELP EDUCATE THE
PUBLIC AND POLITICIANS.

The caption changes to “Erkki Maentakanen. Ambassador, Finland.”

Erkki is in his fifties, clean-shaven and with short wavy graying hair. He wears glasses, a gray suit, white shirt and patterned tie.

He says WE KNOW TOO LITTLE
ABOUT THE REAL EFFECTS
OF OUR ENVIRONMENT
AND EVEN THERE
IS A LOT OF
WORK TO BE DONE.
AND OUT THERE, WE RELY VERY
MUCH ON THE SCIENTIFIC
COMMUNITY AND ITS FINDINGS
ABOUT OUR ENVIRONMENT.

The caption changes to “Stephen Carpenter. Enermodal Engineering Limited.”

Stephen is in his mid-forties, with short salt and pepper hair and a beard. He wears a blue suit, white shirt and patterned tie.

HE says WE HAVE METEOROLOGISTS
THAT TELL US, ESSENTIALLY,
THE BUILDUP IN C02,
THEY'VE BEEN TRACKING
THE WEATHER FOR A
NUMBER OF YEARS.
THEY CAN PROVIDE
A GOOD INDICATOR
OF JUST HOW WELL
WE'RE DOING.
WE HAVE A NUMBER OF
ENERGY EXPERTS WHO CAN
DISTINGUISH BETWEEN THE
VARIOUS ENERGY SOURCES.
WHICH ONES ARE
ENVIRONMENTALLY FRIENDLY
AND WHICH ONES ARE
ENVIRONMENTALLY BENIGN.

The caption changes to “Peter Scott-Smith. Canadian Earth Energy Association.”

Peter is in his early fifties, with short wavy gray hair and a moustache. He wears a blue suit, white shirt and polka dotted blue tie.

He says I THINK OVER THE PERIOD OF
THE NEXT FOUR OR FIVE YEARS,
THERE WILL BE A LOT MORE
INPUT FROM THE SCIENCE
AND THE TECHNOLOGY
COMMUNITY INTO WHAT EFFECT
IS TAKING PLACE DUE TO OUR
POLLUTION OF THE ENVIRONMENT.
HOWEVER, I SUBMIT TO YOU,
THAT I THINK ANYBODY WOULD
BE A FOOL IF THEY DIDN'T
REALIZE THAT WE ARE
DAMAGING, TO SOME
EXTENT, OUR ENVIRONMENT.
NOW, THE ACTUAL DEGREE THAT
WE'RE DAMAGING IT AND
THE TIME THAT WE HAVE LEFT
MAY BE UP FOR QUESTION.
BUT, IF WE DON'T START
MOVING TO DO SOMETHING
ABOUT IT NOW, THEN WE
ARE MORE IRRESPONSIBLE
THAN ANYBODY COULD
GIVE US CREDIT FOR.

The caption changes to “Peggy Hallward. Probe International.”

Peggy is in her early forties, with short wavy brown hair. She wears glasses, a white blouse, a patterned neck scarf and pendant earrings.

She says CANADIANS CAN GET
INFORMATION FROM
ENVIRONMENTAL GROUPS
COAST TO COAST IN CANADA.
ON RAINFOREST ISSUES, THERE'S
THE WORLD WILDLIFE FUND
PROBE INTERNATIONAL,
FRIENDS OF THE EARTH,
FRIENDS OF THE RAINFOREST,
AND THE WESTERN CANADA
WILDERNESS COMMITTEE
ON THE WEST COAST.
AND ALSO A NUMBER
OF UNIVERSITIES
THAT HAVE FORESTRY PROGRAMS
HAVE A LOT OF INFORMATION
ON WHAT'S HAPPENING
IN THE TROPICS.

The caption changes to “Lynda Lynch. Environment Watch.”

Lynda is in her mid-forties, with long wavy gray hair in a low bun. She wears a blue blazer, white blouse and a pair of pearl earrings.

She says I WOULD PROBABLY GO TO
THE HEADS OF THE FACULTY
OF ENVIRONMENTAL STUDIES.
IN ONTARIO, I WOULD HEAD
FOR YORK UNIVERSITY,
I WOULD HEAD FOR THE
UNIVERSITY OF TORONTO,
I WOULD HEAD FOR
RYERSON AND I THINK
THERE'S ONE IN GUELPH,
BUT I'M NOT SURE.
BUT, THEY WOULD HAVE
INFORMATION ON BASELOADING
OF PESTICIDES, WHICH MIGHT
BE EXTREMELY INTERESTING
TO TAKE A LOOK AT.
AND I WOULD START
WITH THE UNIVERSITIES.
CERTAINLY THE RESEARCH
TEAMS TEND TO
COME OUT OF THE SENIOR
FACULTY MEMBERS.
AND I WOULD ALSO CONTACT
HARVARD UNIVERSITY
AND I WOULD CONTACT THE
ENVIRONMENTAL NETWORK
CLEARING HOUSE
IN WASHINGTON.
THEY HAVE A GREAT
DEAL OF INFORMATION.

A caption reads “Robert Hornung. Friends of the Earth.”

Robert is in his thirties, clean-shaven and with short wavy light brown hair. He wears glasses, a light gray suit, white shirt and striped gray tie.

HE says FRIENDS OF THE EARTH IS
A CANADIAN ENVIRONMENTAL
GROUP BASED IN OTTAWA.
IT HAS 15,000 MEMBERS
ACROSS THE COUNTRY
AND HAS THREE MAIN GOALS:
RESEARCH, ADVOCACY,
AND PUBLIC EDUCATION.
WE'RE DOING THOSE THREE
ASPECTS ON SEVERAL CAMPAIGNS,
SEVERAL KEY ISSUES WHICH
WE THINK ARE IMPORTANT.
ONE IS THE DEPLETION
OF THE OZONE LAYER,
ANOTHER IS GLOBAL WARMING.
WE ALSO HAVE SMALLER
PROJECTS GOING ON WITH
TROPICAL RAINFORESTS
AND PESTICIDE USE.

The caption changes to “Ruth McKlusky. Solar Energy Society of Canada Incorporated.”

Ruth is in her forties, with long wavy brown hair in a ponytail. She wears glasses, a blue cardigan and hoop earrings.

She says THERE'S SEVERAL
RENEWABLE ENERGY
ORGANIZATIONS
IN CANADA.
THE GRANDDADDY OF THEM
ALL IS THE SOLAR ENERGY
SOCIETY WHICH WAS FOUNDED
IN 1974 IN WINNIPEG.
IN 1985, IT MOVED TO
OTTAWA TO BE CLOSER
TO THE FEDERAL
GOVERNMENT.
IT HAS CHAPTERS IN EDMONTON,
CALGARY, WINNIPEG,
MONTREAL, QUEBEC,
NOVA SCOTIA.

The caption changes to “Tyler Norris. The Windstar Foundation.”

Tyler is in his late thirties, clean-shaven and with short straight dark blond hair. He wears a tweed suit, white shirt and burgundy tie.

He says THE WINDSTAR FOUNDATION IS
A NON-PROFIT ENVIRONMENTAL
EDUCATION ORGANIZATION.
IT STARTED IN 1976 BY JOHN
DENVER AND TOM CRUM AND SO WE,
PRIMARILY, DEVELOP EDUCATIONAL
MATERIALS THAT PEOPLE
CAN READ AND STUDY TO
UNDERSTAND MORE ABOUT
THE BREADTH OF
ENVIRONMENTAL ISSUES.
AND THEN WE ALSO HAVE CITIZEN
LEADERSHIP GROUPS CALLED
WINDSTAR CONNECTION GROUPS
IN COMMUNITIES THROUGHOUT
THE UNITED STATES AND CANADA
AND JAPAN AND AUSTRALIA
TO TAKE THAT INFORMATION
AND TRANSLATE THAT
INTO PROJECTS AND
ACTIVITIES IN THE FIELD
THAT CAN MAKE A SPECIFIC
DIFFERENCE IN A LOCAL COMMUNITY.

The caption changes to “Ben Benninger. Marsland Centre, Waterloo.”

Ben is in his mid-thirties, clean-shaven and with short wavy receding brown hair. He wears glasses, a blue suit, white shirt and patterned tie.

He says WE HAVE A NEWSLETTER THAT
GOES OUT TWICE YEARLY
TO EVERY HOUSEHOLD
IN THE REGION.
AS WELL AS, WE DEPEND
ON THE LOCAL MEDIA,
BOTH RADIO AND
TELEVISION.
PSAs, OR PUBLIC SERVICE
ANNOUNCEMENTS, TO LEND
THE INFORMATION
BASE OF THE PEOPLE.
AS WELL AS, WE VARIOUS MODES
OF OUTREACH, IF YOU WILL,
SUCH AS MALL DISPLAYS.

The caption changes to “Fergal Nolan. Canadian Institute for Radiation Safety.”

Fergal is in his fifties, clean-shaven and with short wavy white hair. He wears glasses, a blue suit, white shirt and a patterned tie.

He says WE WILL GET YOU THE
BEST SCIENTIFIC ADVICE
WE CAN GET ANYWHERE.
NOT JUST FROM OUR
OWN SCIENTISTS,
BUT ANYWHERE IT
IS AVAILABLE
ON YOUR RADIATION
SAFETY PROBLEM.
AND WE WILL GIVE YOU
THIS IN PLAIN LANGUAGE
AND THE REASON FOR THAT IS,
THAT YOU WILL, AT LAST,
AT LAST BE ABLE TO
UNDERSTAND WHAT IT IS
THAT THIS IS ALL ABOUT.

The caption changes to “Norman Rubin. Energy Probe.”

Norman is in his late forties, clean-shaven and with short wavy salt and pepper hair. He wears glasses, a blue suit, white shirt and patterned tie.

He says I HOPE THAT THE PUBLIC IS
GOING TO CONTINUE TURNING
TO ENVIRONMENTALISTS TO GET
ENVIRONMENTAL INFORMATION.
AT LAST COUNT, AT LEAST,
ENVIRONMENTALISTS HAD -
ENVIRONMENTAL
NON-GOVERNMENT ORGANIZATIONS -
HAD THE MOST PUBLIC
CREDIBILITY.
I PERSONALLY HOPE
THAT CONTINUES.
I THINK WE ARE THE
MOST CREDIBLE SOURCE.
WE HAVE THE FEWEST
AXES TO GRIND.
CERTAINLY IN ENERGY
POLICY AND MOST OF ALL,
IN NUCLEAR ENERGY POLICY,
BUT EVEN IN FOSSIL FUEL POLICY
GOVERNMENTS ARE UP TO THEIR
EARS IN THE INDUSTRY ITSELF.
THE NUCLEAR INDUSTRY
IN CANADA IS VIRTUALLY
OWNED BY GOVERNMENT,
WOULDN'T EXIST
FOR A MONTH
WITHOUT GOVERNMENT
INTERVENTION.
THE FOSSIL FUEL INDUSTRY
WOULD BE PLAYING A HOLDING
GAME IF IT WEREN'T FOR
FEDERAL GOVERNMENT GRANTS.
SO TO EXPECT RELIABLE
INFORMATION FROM THOSE
GOVERNMENTS THAT ARE IN
EFFECT ARE INDUSTRY PLAYERS,
I THINK IS UNREALISTIC AND
I'M GLAD THE PUBLIC DOESN'T
BELIEVE THOSE SOURCES.

The caption changes to “Tracy Patterson. Ontario Waste Management Corporation.”

Tracy is in her mid-thirties, with short wavy brown hair. She wears a black turtleneck sweater.

She says GOVERNMENT ORGANIZATIONS LIKE
THE MINISTRY OF ENVIRONMENT
IN ONTARIO, MY
ORGANIZATION LIKE ONTARIO
WASTE MANAGEMENT CAN
PROVIDE YOU WITH A LOT
OF INFORMATION ON ALTERNATIVES
TO HOUSEHOLD HAZARDOUS
PRODUCTS, ON CHEMICALS,
ON THE OZONE LAYER,
THERE ARE LIBRARIES THAT
ARE FULL OF INFORMATION
AND THE CONSUMER REALLY HAS
TO EDUCATE THEMSELVES
IF THEY'RE GOING TO MAKE
THE RIGHT CHOICES.

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A slate appears with the caption “For more information, write to Friends of the Earth. 701-251 Laurier Avenue East. Ottawa, Ontario K1P 5J6. Probe International. 225 Brunswick Avenue. Toronto, Ontario M5S 2 M6. Canadian Earth Energy Association. Dunrobin, Ontario K0A 1T0”.”

Another caption reads “A production of TV Ontario. The Ontario Educational Communications Authority. 1990.”

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