Transcript: Question Period: Tuesday, May 14, 2019 | May 15, 2019

A still camera shows the Ontario Legislature. A caption on screen reads "Oral questions."

The Speaker stands. He's is in his fifties, clean-shaven, with short light brown hair. He wears a black robe.

The Speaker says IT IS TIME FOR
ORAL QUESTIONS.
I recognize the Leader of the Official Opposition.

The caption changes to "Andrea Horwath. NDP. Leader of Her Majesty's Loyal Opposition."

Horwath is in her fifties, with straight blond hair in a bob. She wears a burgundy blazer over a black shirt, and a silver pendant necklace.

She says THANK YOU, MY
QUESTION IS TO THE PREMIER, THE
HEALTH UNITS ARE ONLY NOW
GETTING A LOOK AT THE CHAOS IN
STORE FOR THEM FROM THIS
GOVERNMENT'S PUBLIC HEALTH
SCHEME.
YESTERDAY WE SAW THE BOUNDARIES
FOR THE PREMIER'S TEAM TO DO
AWAY WITH 25 UNITS.
NOW LARGE SECTORS WILL SHARE THE
UNIT OF THE RENFREW HEALTH UNIT
WILL BE SLICED DOWN THE MIDDLE.
WHO DID THE GOVERNMENT CONSULT
TO DRAW UP THESE BOUNDARIES,
SPEAKER?

The Speaker says QUESTIONS FROM
THE PREMIER.

Premier Ford rises and says MINISTER OF HEALTH.

The Speaker says MINISTER OF
HEALTH AND LONG TERM CARE.

The caption changes to "Honourable Christine Elliott. PC. Minister of Health and Long-Term Care."

Elliott is in her late fifties, with long blond hair. She wears a gray blazer.

She says WELL, I THANK THE OFFICIAL
OPPOSITION FOR THE QUESTION, BUT
THE BOUNDARIES HAVE NOT BEEN
DECIDED UPON YET.
THERE'S NUMEROUS CONSULTATIONS
TO YET HAPPEN.
THERE WERE DISCUSSIONS THAT
HAPPENED BY PHONE LAST WEEK WITH
THE MEDICAL OFFICER OF HEALTH
UPON THE SUGGESTS OF BOUNDARIES,
BUT THEY ARE ONLY SUGGESTIONS.
THEY HAVE NOT BEEN DECIDED UPON.
THERE'S A LOT OF CONSULTATION,
PARTICULARLY WITH MUNICIPALITIES
THAT IS YET TO HAPPEN.

The Speaker says SUPPLEMENTARY QUESTION.

Horwath says WELL,
SPEAKER, IT'S CLEAR THAT THE
GOVERNMENT'S PROPOSING THAT, FOR
EXAMPLE, WATERLOO, PEEL, HALTON,
WELLINGTON PUBLIC HEALTH UNITS
MERGE INTO ONE.
CHIEF MEDICAL OFFICERS IN
HAMILTON AND NIAGARA ARE STILL
STRUGGLING TO FIGURE OUT HOW THE
MERGERS OF THEIR REGIONS WILL
EVEN WORK, MUCH LESS WHAT THE
IMPACT WILL BE ON THE SERVICES
THEY PROVIDE TO PEOPLE IN THOSE
COMMUNITIES.
WHILE THE GOVERNMENT COOKED UP
THESE SCHEMES BEHIND CLOSED
DOORS.
PEOPLE WHO ACTUALLY WORK IN
PUBLIC HEALTH EVERY DAY ARE
WORRIED FOR IRTHAT COMMUNITIES
AND THEIR JOBS.
WHY IS THE GOVERNMENT KEEPING
PUBLIC HEALTH UNITS IN THE DARK
WHILE THEY FORCE THROUGH THESE
RISKY CHANGES?

The Speaker says MINISTER?

Elliott says THE PURPOSE OF THIS PROPOSAL
IS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE
MODERNIZE OUR PUBLIC HEALTH
SYSTEM TO BE ABLE TO RESPOND TO
CRISES IN PUBLIC HEALTH THAT DO
OCCUR FROM TIME TO TIME, AND WE
CAN PROBABLY EXPECT IT'S GOING
TO OCCUR EVEN MORE FREQUENTLY IN
THE FUTURE.
SO WE NEED TO BE READY FOR IT.
THAT'S WHAT WE'RE PREPARING FOR.
AS FOR THE PUBLIC HEALTH UNITS
BEING LEFT IN THE DARK, THAT IS
ABSOLUTELY NOT THE CASE.
THEY HAVE BEEN CONSULTED.
THEY HAVE HAD CONVERSATIONS.
THERE ARE MANY MORE DISCUSSIONS
THAT HAVE YET TO BE HAD, AND AS
I INDICATED IN MY PREVIOUS
ANSWER, NO BOUNDARIES HAVE BEEN
DECIDED YET.
THAT WAS GOING TO BE DECIDED
AFTER APPROPRIATE CONSULTATIONS
WITH MUNICIPALITIES, WITH THE
PUBLIC HEALTH UNITS, AND WITH
OTHERS.

The Speaker says FINAL SUPPLEMENTARY.

Horwath says WELL,
SPEAKER, TO TAX FIRST AND PLAN
LATER IS IRRESPONSIBLE.
TO DO THAT IN HEALTH, COULD BE
CATASTROPHIC FOR THE PEOPLE OF
OUR PROVINCE, SPEAKER.

[APPLAUSE]

Horwath says THE PREMIER'S
ATTACK ON OUR REGIONAL HEALTH
CARE SYSTEMS WILL IMPACT EVERY
SINGLE PART OF OUR PROVINCE, AND
THIS KIND OF CHAOS WILL ONLY
HARM THE PEOPLE WHO DEPEND ON
THEIR SERVICES.
AND I FIND IT DISGRACEFUL THAT
CABINET MINISTERS ARE LAST...

The Speaker says COME TO ORDER.

Horwath says I CAN TELL
YOU PEOPLE IN PUBLIC HEALTH ARE
CERTAINLY NOT LAUGHING.
THEY'RE VERY, VERY, VERY
CONCERNED.
IN RESPONSE TO THE NEWS IN
WATERLOO, REGIONAL CARE KAREN
REDMOND SAID THIS, I HAVE GRAVE
CONCERNS.
THE FARTHER YOU MOVE AWAY FROM
LOCAL DECISIONMAKING THE GREATER
THE OPPORTUNITY THERE IS FOR
LESS RESPONSIVE AND ACCOUNTABLE
DECISIONS.
WHY IS THE PREMIER REDUCING
ACCOUNTABILITY AND IMPOSING A
ONE SIZE FITS ALL SCHEME ON
COMMUNITIES ACROSS ONTARIO?

The Speaker says MINISTER OF
HEALTH AND LONG TERM CARE.

Elliott says THE MODERNIZATION OF OUR
PUBLIC HEALTH SYSTEM IS
SOMETHING WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON
FOR MONTHS, AND THEY CHANGE FROM
THE 35 UNITS OF PUBLIC HEALTH TO
TEN IS SOMETHING WE ARE WORKING
ON THROUGH THE CONSULTATIONS
THAT ARE NECESSARY WITH THE
APPROPRIATE PEOPLE INVOLVED.
SO THIS IS NOT SOMETHING THAT'S
JUST BEEN THOUGHT UP IN THE LAST
MINUTE.
THIS IS SOMETHING THAT'S VERY
PURPOSEFUL, HAS BEEN THOUGHT
ABOUT IN GREAT DETAIL BY MANY
PEOPLE, AND IT'S SOMETHING
THAT'S GOING TO BE SUBJECT TO
FURTHER CONSULTATIONS AS THE
PEOPLE WHO ARE GOING TO BE
DEALING WITH THIS ON THE FRONT
LINE.
WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR
LOCAL PUBLIC HEALTH UNITS ARE
GOING TO BE ABLE TO RESPOND TO
ISSUES THAT ARE GOING TO COME UP
FROM TIME TO TIME.
THERE ARE OUTBREAKS OF CERTAIN
DISEASES.
THAT'S GOING TO CONTINUE.
SO WE NEED TO BE READY.
WE ARE READY AT THE MINISTRY OF
HEALTH, AND WE WANT TO MAKE SURE
THAT LOCAL HEALTH UNITS ARE
READY TO DEAL WITH IT AS WELL.

The Speaker says RESPONSE?
THE NEXT QUESTION.
LEADER OF THE OPPOSITION.

Horwath says THANK YOU,
SPEAKER.
MY NECK QUESTION IS ALSO TO THE
PREMIER.
YESTERDAY THE TORONTO DISTRICT
SCHOOL BOARD RELEASED THEIR
PROPOSED OPERATING BUDGET FOR
THIS YEAR WHICH HAD A
42 MILLION DOLLAR HOLE BECAUSE OF THE
GOVERNMENT'S CUTS TO EDUCATION.
IN THE PAST THE SCHOOL BOARD HAS
BEEN ABLE TO MAKE UP SHORT FALLS
IN THEIR BUDGET WITHOUT MAKING
CUTS THIS THE CLASSROOM.
BUT THIS YEAR THEY SAY IT'S NOT
POSSIBLE.
THE PROGRAMS AND SERVICES FOR
STUDENTS WILL NEED TO BE SCALED
BACK IS WHAT THEY'RE SAYING.
IS THE PREMIER READY TO ADMIT
HIS EDUCATION CUTS ARE ACTUALLY
HURTING STUDENTS.

The Speaker says QUESTIONS TO THE
PREMIER.

Premier Ford stands up. He's in his early fifties, clean-shaven, with short blond hair. He wears a gray suit, white shirt, and gray tie.

The caption changes to "Honourable Doug Ford. PC. Premier."

He says THROUGH YOU,
MR. SPEAKER, OUR GOVERNMENT IS
ABOUT MAKING SURE THE STUDENTS
ARE READY FOR THE NEW ECONOMY,
MAKING SURE THAT THEY'RE READY
TO GET OUT IN THE WORK WORLD.
THE NUMBERS THAT THE TDSB PUT
OUT WAS ABSOLUTELY RECKLESS.
THEY PUT THESE NUMBERS OUT TO
THE PUBLIC PREMATURE...

The Speaker says OPPOSITION COME
TO ORDER.

Ford says BEFORE THEY
EVEN KNOW THE NUMBERS.
THEY'RE THROWING THESE NUMBERS
OUT ARBITRARILY.
OUR MINISTRY'S NUMBERS ARE
AKERATE AND IT'S DISHARTENING
THEY MOVE NOTRE-DAME WITH THESE
FIGURES WITHOUT EVENING
VERIFYING THE ACCURACY OF THESE
NUMBERS.

The Speaker says COME TO ORDER.

Ford says POLITICAL
STUNTS LIKE THIS ONLY SERVE TO
CAUSE ANXIETY WITH PARENTS AND
WITH STUDENTS.
OVER THE PAST 15 YEARS, THERE'S
BEEN ZERO OVERSIGHT, ZERO
OVERSIGHT AND ACCOUNTABILITY
WHEN IT COMES TO THE EDUCATION
SPENDING AT OUR SCHOOL BOARDS.
THE SCHOOL BOARDS ARE...

The Speaker says STOP THE CLOCK.
I'M GOING TO ASK THE MEMBER FOR DAVENPORT AND MEMBER FOR WATERLOO TO COME TO ORDER.
START THE CLOCK.
SUPPLEMENTARY QUESTION.

Horwath says SPEAKER, THE
PREMIER HAS TO HOLD UP A MIRROR
TO SEE RECKLESS OUT OF CONTROL
AND PREMATURE.
ONE OF THE PREMIER'S CUTS IS TO
FRENCH IMMERSE AND EXTENDED
FRENCH PROGRAMS.
STUDENTS WILL NOW HAVE FEWER
OPPORTUNITIES TO PARTICIPATE IN
FRENCH IMMERSION BECAUSE THE
BOARD IS FORCED REDUCE THE
NUMBER OF PATHWAYS INTO THE
PROGRAM, AND FEWER STUDENTS ARE
ABLE TO TO BE BUSED INTO SCHOOLS
TO ACCESS THE PROGRAM.
DOES THE PREMIER BELIEVE THAT
FORCING SCHOOLS TO CUT ESSENTIAL
PROGRAMS LIKE FRENCH IMMERSION
WILL ACTUALLY HELP STUDENTS
SUCCEED?

The Speaker says THE PREMIER.

Ford says JUST THIS YEAR,
MR. SPEAKER, WE'RE GIVING THE
TDSB 3 BILLION DOLLARS.
AND, MR. SPEAKER, WE'RE ASKING
THE TDSB TO FIND THREE QUARTERS
OF ONE PERCENT EFFICIENCIES,
THREE QUARTERS OF ONE PERCENT OF
THE EFFICIENCIES, BUT GUESS WHAT
THE SCHOOL BOARD DOES INSTEAD,
MR. SPEAKER, THEY GO OUT AND
WASTE TAXPAYERS' MONEY.
THEY SPENT OVER 700,000 TO
REPLACE SOME LOCKS.
LOCKS ON SCHOOLS.
THE TDSB, THESE ARE GREAT ONES,
TO REPLACE ONE ELECTRICAL
OUTLET, THEY SPENT 3,000, FOR A
2.50 OUTLET, THEY SPENT 3,000
TO INSTALL IT.
THIS IS EVEN BETTER.
ONE OF THOSE WHITEBOARDS, THE
WHITEBOARDS THAT COST 127.
THE SCHOOL BOARD WENT OUT AND
SPENT 2500, MR. SPEAKER, ON A
WHITEBOARD.
THIS IS RECKLESS SPENDING OVER
AND OVER AGAIN.

The Speaker says OPPOSITION COME
TO ORDER.

Ford says WE WENT TO ONE
SCHOOL, MR. SPEAKER...

The Speaker says THANK YOU.
THANK YOU.
THANK YOU.
FINAL SUPPLEMENTARY.

Horwath says WELL, I THINK
THE PREMIER SHOULD CHECK IF IT
WAS A WHITEBOARD OR SMART BOARD.
MAYBE HE DOESN'T KNOW THE
DIFFERENCE, SPEAKER.

[APPLAUSE]

Horwath says FRENCH
IMMERSION IS NOT THE ONLY
PROGRAM TO BE CUT BACK BECAUSE
OF THE PREMIER'S EDUCATION CUTS.
THE INTERNATIONAL LANGUAGE
PROGRAM, THE INTERNATIONAL
BACCALAUREATE PROGRAM.
THE OUTDOOR EDUCATION PROGRAM.

The Speaker says COME TO ORDER.

Horwath says ARE ALL
SEEING CUTS.
THERE WILL BE FEWER PSYCHOLOGY
STAFF, FEWER SUPPORTS FOR
TEACHERS TO BOOST THEIR SKILLS
IN SCIENCE, MATH, AND
TECHNOLOGY, AND FEWER
OPPORTUNITIES FOR STUDENTS TO
LEARN MUSIC AND ART.
IS THIS THE KIND OF CHANGE THE
PREMIER THINKS OUR STUDENTS
DESERVE, SPEAKER?

The Speaker says PREMIER.

Ford says MR. SPEAKER, I
THINK THE PUBLIC NEEDS TO KNOW
HOW THEY WASTE MONEY AT THE
SCHOOL BOARD.
SEVEN HOURS, MR. SPEAKER, SEVEN
HOURS.
THEY HIRED SOMEONE TO HANG THREE
PICTURES.
SEVEN HOURS.
BUT IT EVEN GETS BETTER.

The Speaker says COME TO ORDER.

Ford says THEY SPENT
SEVEN HOURS HANGING THREE
PICTURES, THEY COME TWO DAYS
LATER, AND THEY TOOK HOURS TO
HANG THREE MORE PICTURES UP, MR.
SPEAKER.
IT'S OUTRAGEOUS SPENDING WE SEE.
THEY WENT OUT AND SPENT 143 ON
A PENCIL SHARPENER THAT'S
RECKLESS.
THEY CUT A SINGLE KEY THAT COST
5 AT HOME DEPOT THEY SPENT 147
TO CUT ONE KEY.
AT H.R. MCGREGOR, THEY NEED A
LITTLE BENCH MR. SPEAKER, THE
SCHOOL BOARD HIRED FOUR GUYS TO
COME BY TO MOVE ONE BENCH.
THAT'S THE RECKLESS SPENDING
WE'RE GOING TO STOP.
WE'RE GOING TO MAKE SURE THERE'S
ACCOUNTABILITY.

The Speaker says STOP THE CLOCK.

[APPLAUSE]

The Speaker says ORDER.
RESTART THE CLOCK.
NEXT QUESTION LEADER OF THE
OPPOSITION.

Horwath says I KNEW THE
PREMIER WANTED TO BE THE MAYOR
OF TORONTO, NOW HE WANTS TO BE
THE PREMIER OF THE TORONTO
DISTRICT SCHOOL BOARD.
MY QUESTION IS TO THE ATTORNEY
GENERAL.
TODAY'S "GLOBE and MAIL"...

[INTERJECTIONS]

The Speaker says ORDER.

Horwath says TODAY'S
"GLOBE and MAIL" PROVIDES MORE
DETAILS OF A DISTURBING INCIDENT
LAST YEAR.
THEY ORDERED POLITICAL AIDS TO
DIRECT POLICE TO RAID CANNABIS
STORES THE DAY MARIJUANA BECAME
LEGAL WITH THE GOAL OF GETTING
PEOPLE IN HANDCUFFS ON THE NOON
HOUR NEWS.
THE GLOBE REPORTS THE ATTORNEY
GENERAL ATTENDED A FOLLOW-UP
MEETING IN WHICH THE STAPLE
STAFF WERE REPRIMANDED FOR NOT
FOLLOWING THROUGH ON
MR. FRENCH'S ORDERS.
CAN THE ATTORNEY GENERAL CONFIRM
THAT SHE ATTENDED THIS MEETING,
AND IF SHE DID, DID SHE ACTUALLY
TAKE THE TIME TO EXPLAIN TO THE
PREMIER HOW INAPPROPRIATE IT IS
FOR POLITICIANS AND THEIR STAFF
TO ATTEMPT TO...

The Speaker says QUESTIONS TO THE
ATTORNEY GENERAL.

A voice says THE SOLICITOR GENERAL.

The Speaker says REFERRED TO THE
SOLICITOR GENERAL.

The caption changes to "Honourable Sylvia Jones. PC. Solicitor General."

Jones is in her sixties, with wavy blond hair to her shoulders. She wears glasses, a black blazer and a printed blue shirt.

She says THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER.
YOU KNOW, THE NDP MIGHT NOT GET
IT, BUT I THINK THE VAST
MAJORITY OF ONTARIO RESIDENTS
UNDERSTAND THAT OUR GOAL IS TO
COMPLETE AND ENSURE THAT OUR
FAMILIES AND OUR COMMUNITIES ARE
SAFE.
THE FACT THAT CHIEFS OF STAFF
AND MINISTERS, FRANKLY, ARE
ASKING FOR UPDATES SUGGESTS THAT
WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE
POLICIES IN LEGISLATION THAT WE
ARE BRINGING FORWARD IS ACTUALLY
MAKING A DIFFERENCE TO THE
FRONTLINE OFFICERS.
YOU KNOW, I CONTINUE TO
APPRECIATE AND UNDERSTAND, AND I
WISH THE NDP WOULD, THAT THESE
ILLEGAL CANNABIS SHOPS FUND
OPIOIDS, FUND HUMAN TRAFFICKING,
FUNDS GUNS AND GANGS IN OUR
COMMUNITY.
WE MUST SHUT THEM DOWN.
AND THE ONLY WAY THAT WE CAN DO
THAT IS MONITOR TO MAKE SURE
THAT THE POLICIES AND
LEGISLATIONS THAT WE HAVE
BROUGHT FORWARD IS ACTUALLY
MAKING A DIFFERENCE TO THE
FRONTLINE OFFICERS.
THAT'S WHAT WE'RE DOING.
THAT'S WHAT OUR STAFF ARE DOING,
AND WE WILL CONTINUE TO DO THAT.

The Speaker says STOP THE CLOCK.
START THE CLOCK.
SUPPLEMENTARY.

Horwath says WELL,
SPEAKER, THE GOVERNMENT STAFF
WHO REFUSED TO DO DEAN FRENCH'S
BIDDING DID SO FOR A VERY GOOD
REASON.

The Speaker says ORDER.

Horwath says IN A
DEMOCRACY, THE GOVERNMENT DOES
NOT DICTATE WHO POLICE
INVESTIGATE OR HOW THEY CONDUCT
INVESTIGATIONS.
IT'S A CONCEPT, SADLY THAT THE
FORD GOVERNMENT SEEMS TO HAVE A
PROBLEM WITH.

The Speaker says COME TO ORDER.

Horwath says THE ATTORNEY
GENERAL, HOWEVER HAS A UNIQUE
ROLE AT THE CABINET TABLE, AND
THIS IS EXACTLY THE SORT OF
MOMENT WHEN SHE SHOULD HAVE
SPOKEN UP.
WHY DID SHE NOT SPEAK UP,
SPEAKER?

The Speaker says STOP THE CLOCK.
SORRY TO INTERRUPT AGAIN, BUT I
HAVE TO CALL MEMBERS TO ORDER.
THE PREMIER MUST COME TO ORDER.
THE MINISTER OF CHILDREN,
COMMUNITY AND SOCIAL SERVICES
MUST COME TO ORDER.
THE MINISTER FOR INFRASTRUCTURE
MUST COME TO ORDER.
THE MINISTER FOR ECONOMIC
DEVELOPMENT AND TRADE COME TO
ORDER.
THE MEMBER FOR EGLINTON-LAWRENCE COME TO
ORDER, MEMBER FOR ETOBICOKE
CENTRE COME TO ORDER.
START THE CLOCK.
SOLICITOR GENERAL TO REPLY.

Jones says YOU KNOW, OUR GOVERNMENT
UNDERSTANDS AND APPRECIATES HOW
IMPORTANT LAW AND ORDER IS IN
THE PROVINCE OF ONTARIO.
AND WE WILL CONTINUE TO MONITOR
THE ACTIVITIES OF THESE ILLEGAL
CANNABIS SHOPS, BECAUSE AS I
SAY, SPEAKER, IT IS CRITICALLY
IMPORTANT...

The Speaker says OPPOSITION SIDE COME TO ORDER.

Jones says THIS IS A SOURCE OF
FUNDING FOR GUNS AND GANGS IN
THE PROVINCE OF ONTARIO.
THIS IS FUNDING HUMAN
TRAFFICKING IN THE PROVINCE OF
ONTARIO.
ILLEGAL CANNABIS SHOPS ARE
FUNDING THE OPIOID CRISIS IN OUR
COMMUNITIES.

The Speaker says OPPOSITION COME
TO ORDER.

Jones says THE GOVERNMENT DOESN'T
UNDERSTAND WHY IT'S IMPORTANT
THAT WE KNOW WHY THESE ILLEGAL
CANNABIS SHOPS ARE SHUT DOWN,
THEN...

The Speaker says COME TO ORDER.

Jones says WHY THEY DON'T UNDERSTAND
CHIEFS OF STAFF NEED TO HAVE THE
INPUT...

The Speaker says STOP THE CLOCK.

[APPLAUSE]

The Speaker says THE MINISTER FOR
INFRASTRUCTURE WILL COME TO
ORDER.
THE MINISTER FOR INFRASTRUCTURE
IS WARNED.
THE LEADER OF THE OPPOSITION
WILL COME TO ORDER.
THE MEMBER FOR WATERLOO WILL
COME TO ORDER.
FOR REPEATED INTERJECTIONS, IF
YOU'RE WONDERING WHY.
THE MEMBER FOR KITCHENER-CONESTOGA WILL COME TO
ORDER.
THE MINISTER OF MUNICIPAL
AFFAIRS AND HOUSING WILL COME TO
ORDER.
THE PREMIER WILL COME TO ORDER.
I WANT TO APOLOGIZE TO THE
SOLICITOR GENERAL FOR
INTERRUPTING HER RESPONSE, BUT I
HAVE TO CALL ONE OF HER
COLLEAGUES TO ORDER, BECAUSE OF
REPEATED INTERJECTIONS.
START THE CLOCK.
THE NEXT question. The member for AURORA—OAK RIDGES-RICHMOND HILL.

The caption changes to "Michael Parsa. PC. Aurora-Oak Ridges-Richmond Hill."

Parsa is in his early forties, clean-shaven, with short black hair. He wears a gray suit, white shirt, and striped black tie.

He says THAT'S CORRECT, THE THERE WAS
A JOB KILLING CARBON TAX ON
APRIL 1ST.
IT WAS NO APRIL FOOL'S JOKE.
PEOPLE ACROSS THE PROVINCE, FROM
ALL WALKS OF LIFE ARE FEELING
THE IMPACT OF THE CARBON TAX.
HOSPITALS, UNIVERSITIES AND
COLLEGES, BUSINESSES AND SENIORS
ACROSS ONTARIO ARE PAYING THE
PRICE.
NO ONE IS EXEMPT.
THE PRIME MINISTER BETTER TAKE
NOTE, BECAUSE CANADIANS ARE
GROWING ANGRY.
MR. SPEAKER, CAN THE PREMIER
PLEASE UPDATE THE LEGISLATURE ON
THE STATUS OF THE CARBON TAX
CHALLENGE?

The Speaker says THE PREMIER.

Ford says WELL, I WANT TO
THANK A GREAT MPP FOR
AURORA-OAK RIDGES-RICHMOND
HILL.
HE'S A CHAMPION LIKE THE REST OF
THESE CHAMPIONS.

[APPLAUSE]

Ford says MR. SPEAKER, I
HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO HOST
PREMIER SCOTT MOE FROM
SASKATCHEWAN AND TALK ABOUT THE
CARBON TAX AND THE EFFECTS THAT
ARE TAKING PLACE RIGHT ACROSS
THIS PROVINCE, RIGHT ACROSS THIS
COUNTRY.
IT'S NOT A COINCIDENCE, MR.
SPEAKER, EVERY PREMIER THAT RAN
AGAINST THE CARBON TAX HAS WON,
FROM PEI TO NEW BRUNSWICK,
QUEBEC, ONTARIO, MANITOBA,
SASKATCHEWAN, AND ALBERTA, THE
PEOPLE OF CANADA DO NOT WANT A
CARBON TAX.
IT'S A JOB-KILLING TAX.
IT PUTS A BURDEN ON THE BACKS OF
EVERY SINGLE FAMILY IN THE
ENTIRE COUNTRY.
IT PUTS A BURDEN ON EVERY SINGLE
COMPANY THAT EXISTS.
EVERYTHING IS GOING UP, MY
FRIENDS.
EVERYTHING THE PEOPLE UP THERE
ARE BUYING TODAY IS GOING UP IN
HAD PRICE IN THE STORES.
THEIR GAS IS MORE EXPENSIVE.
EVERYTHING IS MORE EXPENSIVE,
MR. SPEAKER...

The Speaker says THANK YOU.
THANK YOU.
SUPPLEMENTARY QUESTION.

Parsa says THANK YOU SPEAKER, AND I
THANK THE PREMIER FOR HIS VERY
ELOQUENT ANSWER AS ALWAYS.
MR. SPEAKER, ONTARIO WILL BE
PAYING... BECAUSE OF THE FEDERAL
GOVERNMENT'S COSTLY CARBON TAX.
INSTEAD OF HAVING A FEDERAL
LIBERAL GOVERNMENT THAT IS
LOOKING TO MAKE THE LIVES OF
ONTARIANS MORE AFFORDABLE, WE
HAVE A GOVERNMENT IN OTTAWA THAT
IS DOING THE COMPLETE OPPOSITE.
THE PRIME MINISTER HAS AN
ANTI-COMPETITIVE AGENDA, AND THE
PEOPLE AND THE JOB CREATORS IN
MY RIDING ARE FEELING IT EVERY
DAY.
MR. SPEAKER, THE SAME MOTLEY
CRUES THAT BROUGHT ONTARIO TO
THIS DIRE STATE IS NOW PLAYING
AN ENCORE FOR ALL CANADIANS.
NOW, THANK GOODNESS THAT OUR
PREMIER IS WORKING HARD EVERY
DAY TO MAKE IT EASIER TO GET
AHEAD IN THIS PROVINCE, ONCE
AGAIN.
MR. SPEAKER, WILL THE PREMIER
REASSURE ONTARIANS OF HIS
COMMITMENT TO DEFEATING THIS
CARBON TAX?

The Speaker says PREMIER.

Ford says I'D LIKE TO THANK THE MEMBER FOR THE QUESTION, MR. SPEAKER.
I CAN ASSURE EVERY ONTARIO
RESIDENT, WE'RE GOING TO USE
EVERY TOOL IN OUR TOOLBOX TO
FIGHT AGAINST THE MOST
AGGRESSIVE, WORST TAX THIS
PROVINCE HAS EVER SEEN.
AGAIN, IT MAKES US
UNCOMPETITIVE.
EVERY COMPANY I TALKS TO MAKES
THEM UNCOMPETITIVE, MR. SPEAKER,
BUT THROUGH OUR GREATER MINISTER
OF ENVIRONMENT, HE'S COME UP
WITH AN INCREDIBLE PLAN TO MAKE
SURE WE HAVE CLEAN AIR, CLEAN
LAKES, CLEAN PARKS.
WE'RE LEADING THE ENTIRE COUNTRY
WITH 22.5 percent EMISSIONS REDUCTION
AS THE REST OF THE CONTRIBUTE IS
A POSITIVE FIVE, WE'RE MINUS
22-AND-A-HALF PERCENT WE'RE
GOING TO HILT OUR 30 percent TARGET IN
THE NEXT 11 YEARS, AND GUESS
WHAT, MR. SPEAKER, WE DID IT
WITHOUT A CARBON TAX.
WE WILL NOT STOP UNTIL WE GET
RID OF THIS CARBON TAX.
MR. SPEAKER, IN OCTOBER, THE
PEOPLE WILL DECIDE IN THIS
COUNTRY IF THEY WANT A CARBON
TAX OR NOT, AND I'M BETTING THAT
THEY WILL...

The Speaker says THANK YOU.
THANK YOU.
STOP THE CLOCK.
THANK YOU.
START THE CLOCK.
THE NEXT QUESTION. THE MEMBER
MEMBER...

The caption changes to "Sol Mamakwa. NDP. Kiiwetinoong."

Mamakwa is in his thirties, clean-shaven, with short black hair. He wears a gray suit, white shirt, and floral print tie.

He says THANK YOU MIIGWETCH.
MY QUESTION IS FOR THE PREMIER.
RECENTLY THERE WAS A DEVASTATING
FIRE IN BIG TROUT LAKE.
FIVE COMMUNITY MEMBERS DIED IN
THIS FIRE.
A MOTHER AND FOUR OF HER
CHILDREN ALL UNDER THE AGE OF
13.
ACHIEVE DONNIE MORRIS HAS ISSUED
A DECLARATION OF EMERGENCY
BECAUSE OF THE FIRE'S IMPACT ON
THE COMMUNITY.
USING JORDAN'S PRINCIPLE, WILL
THE GOVERNMENT HELP THE YOUTH,
COMMUNITY'S YOUTH, WHO ARE MOST
AFFECTED BY THE FIRE AND NEED
MENTAL HEALTH SUPPORTS?
MIIGWETCH.

The Speaker says THE QUESTION FOR
THE PREMIER.

Ford says MINISTER OF
INDIGENOUS AFFAIRS NORTHERN
AFFAIRS AND MINES.

The caption changes to "Honourable Greg Rickford. PC. Minister of Indigenous Affairs."

Rickford is in his early fifties, clean-shaven, with short gray hair. He wears a light gray suit, blue shirt, and checkered yellow tie.

He says WE SHARE OUR DEEPEST condolences WITH THE VICTIMS' FAMILIES
AND THE FIRST NATION IN TROUT
LAKE.
I HAD A CHANCE TO SPEAK TO CHIEF
DONNIE MORRIS A PERSON I'VE
KNOWN FOR A GREAT NUMBER OF
YEARS.
WE PLEDGED OUR SUPPORT NOT JUST
IN THE IMMEDIACY OF THE
INVESTIGATION BY THE CORONER AND
VARIOUS OTHER URGENT SUPPORTS,
BUT TO CONTINUE TO PROVIDE ANY
SUPPORTS THAT HE REQUESTED.
HE SAID THAT HE WOULD BE IN
TOUCH WITH ME AS THOSE NEEDS
AROSE, AND I PLEDGED ADDITIONAL
SUPPORT FOR MENTAL HEALTH
SERVICES AS THEY WOULD BE
REQUIRED.
IT WAS A GOOD CONVERSATION UNDER
A DIFFICULT SET OF
CIRCUMSTANCES, AND WE REMAIN
COMMITTED TO SUPPORTING THAT
COMMUNITY DURING THIS DIFFICULT
TIME.
THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER.

The Speaker says SUPPLEMENTARY QUESTION.

Mamakwa says BACK TO THE PREMIER.
THE FIRE IN BIG TROUT LAKE IS
THE LATEST TO CLAIM LIVES IN A
FIRST NATION.
FIRES IN PIKANGIKUM, AND OTHER
FIRST NATIONS HAVE HAD TRAGIC
OUTCOMES.
FIRST NATION RESIDENTS ARE TEN
TIMES MORE LIKELY TO DIE IN A
HOUSE FIRE THAN THE REST OF
CANADA.
IT'S NOT GOOD ENOUGH JUST TO
FEEL BAD.
IT'S NOT GOOD ENOUGH... IT'S NOT
ENOUGH JUST TO HAVE THOSE
MOMENTS OF SILENCE.
THERE ARE ACTIONS THAT COULD BE
TAKEN TO MAKE EVENTS LIKE THIS
LESS LIKELY SO IT DOESN'T HAPPEN
AGAIN.
WILL THE GOVERNMENT COMMIT TO
WORKING WITH FIRST NATIONS TO
IMPROVE FIRE SAFETY IN OUR
COMMUNITIES?

[APPLAUSE]

The Speaker says MINISTER?

Rickford says THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER, AND I
WANT TO RECOGNIZE MY COLLEAGUE,
THE MINISTER OF CHILDREN AND
YOUTH SERVICES, WHO SPOKE ABOUT
JORDAN'S PRINCIPLE AT THE HOUSE
OF COMMONS LAST WEEK.
THE MEMBER OPPOSITE IS RIGHT, IT
IS MORE THAN JUST ABOUT A MOMENT
OF SILENCE AND ACTION... IT'S
MORE ABOUT ACTION, MR. SPEAKER.
THAT'S WHY WE RESPONDED TO THIS
FIRE VERY QUICKLY, REACHED OUT
TO THE CHIEF, IN FACT, RESOURCES
FROM THE GOVERNMENT OF ONTARIO
WERE MOBILIZED IMMEDIATELY.
THE CHIEF ACKNOWLEDGED THAT, AND
WE REMAIN COMMITTED TO
SUPPORTING THE COMMUNITY.
WE'LL TAKE OUR CUE FROM THE LEADERSHIP OF THAT COMMUNITY IN
TERMS OF WHAT ADDITIONAL SUPPORT
WILL BE REQUIRED, AND IT WILL BE
THERE, MR. SPEAKER, THANK YOU.

[APPLAUSE]

The Speaker says NEXT question. The member for OAKVILLE-North Burlington.

The caption changes to "Effie J. Triantafilopoulos. PC. Oakville North-Burlington."

Triantafilopoulos is in her fifties, with long straight black hair. She wears a gray blazer and a printed black blouse.

She says
DIFFICULT TO BUILD THE HOUSING
OUR PROVINCE SO DESPERATELY NEEDS.
CAN THE MINISTER PLEASE EXPLAIN
TO THIS HOUSE AND TO THE PEOPLE
OF ONTARIO, WHAT OUR GOVERNMENT
IS DOING TO INCREASE HOUSING
SUPPLY IN ONTARIO.

The Speaker says QUESTION TO THE
MINISTER OF MUNICIPAL AFFAIRS
AND HOUSING.

The caption changes to "Honourable Steve Clark. PC. Minister of Municipal Affairs and Housing."

Clark is in his fifties, clean-shaven and bald. He wears rounded glasses, a gray suit, white shirt and striped red tie.

He says THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER, AND I WANT TO THANK THE INCREDIBLE
MEMBER FROM OAKVILLE
NORTH-BURLINGTON FOR ALL THE
WORK THAT SHE DOES ON BEHALF OF
HER CONSTITUENTS.
SPEAKER, I WAS HONOURED TO SPEAK
THIS MORNING AT THE TORONTO
REGION BOARD OF TRADE ABOUT MORE
HOMES, MORE CHOICE IN ONTARIO'S
HOUSING SUPPLY ACTION PLAN.
AND THE MEMBER IS RIGHT, IT'S
CLEAR AFTER YEARS OF
MISMANAGEMENT AND INACTION ON
THIS FILE BY THE PREVIOUS
GOVERNMENT, THERE'S A SHORTAGE
OF HOUSING IN ONTARIO.
THERE'S NOT ENOUGH HOMES FOR
INDIVIDUALS AND FAMILIES WHO
NEED IT.
SPEAKER, IT TAKES TEN YEARS...
TEN YEARS... TO BUILD A ROW-RISE
OR HIGH-RISE HOUSING DEVELOPMENT
IN THE GTHA.
OUR PLAN AND LEGISLATION AIMS TO
SPEED UP THE TIME IT TAKES TO
BUILD HOUSING ACROSS ALL OF
ONTARIO BY CUTTING RED TAPE,
REDUCING UNNECESSARY DELAYS,
DUPLICATION, AND BARRIERS.
THIS IS GOING TO MAKE IT EASIER
TO BUILD MORE HOMES AND PROVIDE
MORE HOUSING CHOWSES MORE
QUICKLY WHILE MAINTAINING
PROTECTION TO PEOPLE'S HEALTH
AND SAFETY AND THE ENVIRONMENT,
SPEAKER.

The Speaker says SUPPLEMENTARY QUESTION.

Triantafilopoulos says THANK YOU, SPEAKER, AND THANK
YOU, MINISTER, FOR THAT ANSWER.
SPEAKER, IT IS CLEAR MORE
HOUSING OF MORE KINDS NEEDS TO
BE BUILT.
UNFORTUNATELY, THERE IS A MAJOR
BACKLOG OF LEGACY CASES AT THE
LOCAL PLANNING APPEALS TRIBUNAL.
IT IS A TWO- TWO THREE-YEAR
APPEALS PROCESS AT A TIME WHEN
ONTARIO IS IN A HOUSING CRISIS.
SPEAKER, THIS IS UNACCEPTABLE.
IT'S ESTIMATED THERE ARE
APPROXIMATELY 100,000 HOUSING
UNITS THAT ARE CAUGHT UP IN
THOSE LEGACY CASES AT THE
TRIBUNAL.
THAT'S 100,000 DESPERATELY
NEEDED HOMES AND RENTALS THAT
CAN'T GET BUILT, OR THREE YEARS'
WORTH OF CONSTRUCTION IN ONTARIO
WAITING TO BE APPROVED.
SPEAKER, CAN THE MINISTER TELL
THIS HOUSE HOW THE TRIBUNAL WILL
BE ABLE TO EXPEDITE DECISIONS
MADE MORE QUICKLY IN ORDER TO
GET MORE HOUSING ON THE MARKETS?
THANK YOU.

The Speaker says MINISTER?

Clark says AGAIN, I WANT TO THANK THE MEMBER FOR THAT EXCELLENT
QUESTION.
SPEAKER, THANKS TO THE SUPPORT
OF OUR FANTASTIC ATTORNEY
GENERAL.
WE'RE ADDING AS MANY AS 11 NEW
ADJUDICATORS TO THE TRIBUNAL.
SPEAKER, THAT'S A 45 percent INCREASE.
WE'RE PROPOSING CHANGES THAT
WILL BROADEN THE TRIBUNAL'S
JURISDICTION, AND IN MAJOR
PLANNING APPEALS ALLOW IT TO
MAKE THE BEST PLANNING DECISION.
WE'RE ALSO PROPOSING TO CHANGES
TO ENCOURAGE THE USE OF
MEDIATION, TO SIMPLIFY THE
PROCESSES AND REMOVE POTENTIAL
DELAYS.
WE'RE ALSO GIVING THE TRIBUNAL
GREATER DISCRETION REGARDING ITS
FEES TO MAKE SURE THAT THE
BARRIERS ARE REMOVED FOR THOSE
SEEKING TO LAUNCH AN APPEAL.
WE'RE MOVING TOWARDS, SPEAKER, A
MORE COST-RECOVERY MODEL SO THAT
DEVELOPERS PAY MORE
FORMENT-OF-THE SYSTEM NOT THE
PEOPLE OF ONTARIO.

The Speaker says RESPOND.

Clark says THESE CHANGES ARE GOING TO
ELIMINATE THE BACKLOG, REDUCE
DELAYS AND ENSURE THEY CAN UNJAM
THAT LOGJAM AND GET UNITS
CREATED FOR THE PEOPLE...

The Speaker says THANK YOU.
THE NEXT question. The member for Niagara Falls.

The caption changes to "Wayne Gates. NDP. Niagara Falls."

Gates is in his fifties, with short black hair and a prominent moustache. He wears glasses, a gray suit, blue shirt, and checkered orange and blue tie.

He says MR. SPEAKER, MY QUESTION IS
TO THE PREMIER.
LAST WEEK IT WAS RELEASED THAT
THE MINISTER OF LABOUR IS
CUTTING 16 MILLION DOLLARS FROM THE
OFFICE TASKED WITH PREVENTING
INJURIES AND DEATH IN THE
WORKPLACE.
THE MINISTER IS CUTTING
16 MILLION DOLLARS FROM THE OFFICE,
DESPITE THE FACT THAT IT'S NOT
TAXPAYER FUNDED AND DOES NOT
IMPACT THE GOVERNMENT'S BOTTOM
LINE.
SPEAKER, WORKPLACE DEATHS ARE
GOING UP AND UP, NOT DOWN.
MY QUESTION TO THE PREMIER IS
THIS, HOW MANY MORE WORKERS NEED
TO DIE IN WORKPLACES BEFORE HE
STOPS THE CUTTING THE SERVICE
DESIGNED TO PROTECT THEM?

The Speaker says QUESTIONS TO THE
PREMIER.

Ford says THE MINISTER OF LABOUR.

The Speaker says MINISTER OF LABOUR.

The caption changes to "Honourable Laurie Scott. PC. Minister of Labour."

Scott is in her mid-fifties, with blond hair in a bob. She wears a printed purple shawl, a black dress, and a silver pendant necklace.

She says I THANK YOU THE SPEAKER AND
THE MEMBER FOR THE QUESTION.
WE'VE ACTUALLY INCREASED OUR
HEALTH AND SAFETY BUDGET
ENFORCEMENT BY OVER HALF
A MILLION DOLLARS, MR. SPEAKER.
WE TAKE THE SAFETY OF WORKERS IN
THIS PROVINCE VERY SERIOUSLY.
SO LOOK IT, IN ORDER TO HELP TO
PROTECT WHAT MATTERS MOST, WE
ASKED OUR PARTNERS AT THE HEALTH
AND SAFETY ASSOCIATIONS TO FIND
12 MILLION DOLLARS IN SAVINGS BY
EXPLORING OPPORTUNITIES TO
IMPLEMENT EFFICIENCIES,
LEVERAGING THIRD PARTY REVENUE,
RESTRICTING DISCRETIONARY
SPENDING ON ITEMS SUCH AS
NON-ESSENTIAL HIRING,
TRAVELLING, TRAINING, AND
EVENTS.
SO, YOU KNOW, MR. SPEAKER, WE
HAD IMPORTANT DECISIONS TO MAKE
PUTTING PEOPLE AS A PRIORITY.
WE HAVE LOOKED AT HEALTH AND
SAFETY PROGRAMS.
WE HAVE WORKED WITH THE PARTNERS
THAT DELIVER THESE HEALTH AND
SAFETY PROGRAMS.

The Speaker says RESPONSE.

Scott says AND, MR. SPEAKER, THERE ARE
OTHER AVENUES OF REVENUE TO
PROVIDE THE PROGRAM, BUT WE HAVE
INCREASED OUR ENFORCEMENT BUDGET
BY HALF A MILLION DOLLARS, MR.
SPEAKER.

The Speaker says THANK YOU.
SUPPLEMENTARY QUESTIONS.

Gates says MR. SPEAKER, AGAIN TO THE
PREMIER, WHEN ASKED ABOUT THE
GOVERNMENT'S 16 MILLION DOLLARS CUTS TO
HEALTH AND SAFETY, A LAWYER WITH
THE INDUSTRIAL ACCIDENT VICTIMS
LEGAL CLINIC SAID, AND I QUOTE,
IT WILL ULTIMATELY LEAD TO MORE
ACCIDENTS.
NO ONE PERSON SHOULD GO TO WORK
IN THE PROVINCE OF ONTARIO AND
NOT KNOW IF THEY'RE COMING HOME
AT THE END OF THE DAY TO THEIR
FAMILIES.
SLASHING FUNDING DECIDE TO
PROTECT WORKERS, FORCING
TRAINING SESSIONS ONLINE, AND
CREATING UNACCOUNTABLE CLASSES
WILL MAKE WORKERS LESS SAFE.
THE GOVERNMENT SAID THEY ARE
SLASHING HEALTH AND SAFETY IN
THIS PROVINCE BECAUSE IT'S COST
EFFICIENT.
SO MY QUESTION IS THIS.
WHAT EXACTLY IS THE VALUE OF A
LIFE OF A WORKER TO THIS
GOVERNMENT?

The Speaker says MINISTER OF
LABOUR.

Scott says MR. SPEAKER, I MEAN, I HAVE
TO REJECT THE PREMISE OF THIS
QUESTION.
OF COURSE THE HEALTH AND SAFETY
OF WORKERS ARE OF UTMOST
IMPORTANCE TO THIS GOVERNMENT.
WE ACTUALLY...

[APPLAUSE]

Scott says I WILL REPEAT AGAIN FOR THE MEMBER.
WE ACTUALLY INCREASED OUR
SPENDING ON OCCUPATIONAL HEALTH
AND SAFETY ENFORCEMENT BY HALF
A MILLION DOLLARS.
YES, WE HAVE THE ONTARIO HEALTH
AND SAFETY ASSOCIATION.
WE WORK WITH THOSE PARTNERS.
WE TOLD THEM THE REALITY OF THE
PROVINCE'S FINANCIAL SITUATION.
THESE ARE PRIVATE ORGANIZATIONS
THAT RECEIVE REVENUE FUNDING FOR
MULTIPLE SOURCES.
LOOK IT, MR. SPEAKER, WE HAVE
THE PRIORITY OF THE WORKERS IN
MIND IN HEALTH AND SAFETY.
WE INCREASED THE ENFORCEMENT
BUDGET BY HALF A MILLION DOLLARS, MR. SPEAKER.
THERE ARE OTHER REVENUE STORIES
FOR HEALTH AND SAFETY PROGRAMS
TO BE DELIVERED, MR. SPEAKER.
WE'VE WORKED WITH OUR PARTNERS
IN THESE PROGRAMS, MR. SPEAKER.
YOU KNOW, MODERNIZING HEALTH AND
SAFETY PROGRAMS, THE MORE PEOPLE
CAN ACTUALLY GET HEALTH AND
SAFETY PROGRAMS IS NOT...

The Speaker says THANK YOU.
THANK YOU.
THE NEXT question. The member for Don Valley West.

The caption changes to "Kathleen O. Wynne. Liberal. Don Valley West."

Wynne is in her fifties, with short curly blond hair. She wears a dark red blazer over a white lace shirt.

She says THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER, MY
QUESTION IS FOR THE PREMIER.
YESTERDAY AFTERNOON IN THE
LEGISLATURE AT THE END OF THE
DEBATE A YOUNG WOMAN STOOD IN
THE MEMBERS' GALLERY TO EXPRESS
HER DISMAY THAT THE GOVERNMENT
MEMBERS HAD NOT SUPPORTED AN
OPPOSITION DAY MOTION FOR THE
NDP TO DECLARE A CLIMATE CHANGE
EMERGENCY AND DEVELOP A REAL
PLAN TO DEAL WITH THAT
EMERGENCY.
THE FACT IS, MR. SPEAKER, THAT
ONTARIO HAD TAKEN ACTION TO
REDUCE POLLUTION.
THE FACT THAT THE MINISTER OF
THE ENVIRONMENT IS STAND IN THIS
PLACE AND CLAIM CONFIDENTLY THAT
ONTARIO IS ON TRACK TO MEET ITS
TARGETS IS BECAUSE ANOTHER
GOVERNMENT, OUR GOVERNMENT, DID
THE HEAVY LIFTING.
COAL PLANTS ARE SHUT DOWN, CAP
AND TRADE IS IN PLACE.
THERE ARE MORE ELECTRIC VEHICLES
ON THE ROAD.

The Speaker says GOVERNMENT SIDE
COME TO ORDER.

Wynne says THINGS ARE BEING RETROFITTED BECAUSE OF...

The Speaker says STOP THE CLOCK.
STAAB THE CLOCK...
STOP THE CLOCK.
THE GOVERNMENT SIDE WILL COME TO
ORDER.
THE GOVERNMENT SIDE WILL COME TO
ORDER.
I APOLOGIZE TO THE MEMBER FOR DON VALLEY WEST.
ONCE AGAIN.
START THE CLOCK.

Wynne says THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER.
MR. SPEAKER, EVERYTHING WE
UNDERTOOK WAS BASED ON EVIDENCE
AND SCIENCE, AND SO TO THE
MINISTER OF THE ENVIRONMENT, I
SAY YOU'RE WELCOME.
BUT THE YOUNG WOMAN YESTERDAY
WAS NOT CHALLENGED...

[INTERJECTIONS]

The Speaker says STOP THE CLOCK.
THE MEMBER FOR DON VALLEY WEST
IS AN ELECTED MEMBER OF THIS
HOUSE, AND HAS EVERY RIGHT TO
ASK A QUESTION, JUST LIKE ANY
OTHER MEMBER OF THIS HOUSE.
AND I NEED TO BE ABLE TO HEAR
HER.
AND THIS IS TWICE THAT THE
GOVERNMENT SIDE IN HUGE NUMBERS
HAS SHOUTED HER DOWN.
IT'S NOT ACCEPTABLE BEHAVIOUR.
RESTART THE CLOCK.
MEMBER FOR DON VALLEY WEST.

Wynne says MR. SPEAKER, THE YOUNG WOMAN
YESTERDAY WAS CHALLENGING THIS
GOVERNMENT TO CARE FOR THE
FUTURE.
SHE WAS ASKING THIS GOVERNMENT
TO THINK ABOUT HER ABILITY TO
LIVE SAFELY AND SECURELY, TO
HAVE CHILDREN OF HER OWN FREE OF
THE RAVAGES OF EXTREME WEATHER
AND ENVIRONMENTAL DEGRADATION.
CAN THE PREMIER PLEASE EXPLAIN
HOW THE CANCELLATION OF
SUCCESSFUL PROGRAMS THAT HAVE
LED TO THE REDUCTION OF
GREENHOUSE GAS EMISSIONS, HOW
THE DELETION OF THOSE PROGRAMS
WILL SAFEGUARD THE FUTURE FOR
THAT YOUNG WOMAN AND HER ENTIRE
GENERATION?

The Speaker says THE QUESTION IS
TO THE PREMIER.

Ford says MINISTER OF ENERGY.

The Speaker says DEFERRED TO THE
MINISTER OF ENERGY.

A voice says I'M SORRY.

The caption changes to "Honourable Greg Rickford. PC. Minister of Energy, Northern Development and Mines."

Rickford says WELL, THANK YOU... THANK YOU,
MR. SPEAKER, ANOTHER GREAT
OPPORTUNITY, A LITTLE BIT RICH
COMING FROM THAT MEMBER, MR.
SPEAKER.
WE SAW WHAT THOSE PROJECTS COST
THE PEOPLE OF ONTARIO.
17 TO 48 CENTS A KILOWATT, MR.
SPEAKER, WHILE LIBERAL INSIDERS
GOT RICH, AND THE PEOPLE OF
ONTARIO, FAMILIES, SENIORS, AND
SMALL BUSINESSES, TOOK THE HIT,
ESPECIALLY OUT IN NORTHERN
ONTARIO.
I CAN'T THINK, MR. SPEAKER, OF A
LARGER TRANSFER OF WEALTH THAN
WHAT OCCURRED UNDER THE PREVIOUS
LIBERAL GOVERNMENT AND THEIR
IRRESPONSIBLE DECISIONS, MR.
SPEAKER, AROUND ESPECIALLY
INDUSTRIAL WIND TURBINES, MR.
SPEAKER.
THIS WAS A DRAMATIC ERROR, MR.
SPEAKER.
WE HAVE INTRODUCED LEGISLATION
TO FIX THE HYDRO MESS ACT.
IT'S JUST BEEN PASSED AND WE'RE
WELL ON THE PATH, MR. SPEAKER,
TO FIX WHAT THEY BROKE.
THANKS.

The Speaker says SUPPLEMENTARY QUESTION.

Wynne says YOU KNOW, MR. SPEAKER, WE'VE
ACTUALLY SEEN THIS MOVIE BEFORE,
BECAUSE WHEN THAT MEMBER WAS
SITTING IN THE FEDERAL
PARLIAMENT, STEPHEN HARPER STOOD
UP AND TOOK CREDIT FOR CANADA
BEING A LEADER IN REDUCTION OF
GREENHOUSE GAS EMISSIONS,
BECAUSE OF WHAT WAS BEING DONE
HERE IN ONTARIO BY A LIBERAL
GOVERNMENT, MR. SPEAKER.
WE WERE REDUCING GREENHOUSE GAS
EMISSIONS.
MR. SPEAKER, YOUNG PEOPLE...
YOUNG PEOPLE ARE, BY NATURE,
OPTIMISTIC, AND THEY SHOULD BE.
BUT THEY ARE WORRIED ABOUT THE
ENVIRONMENT, AS THEY SHOULD BE.
THEY'RE ALSO WORRIED ABOUT THEIR
EDUCATION AND THEIR PARENTS ARE
WORRIED ABOUT THEIR ABILITY TO
CARE FOR THEIR YOUNGER SIBLINGS.
SO THIS WHOLE QUESTION IS ABOUT
THE FUTURE, MR. SPEAKER.
THEY SEE THIS GOVERNMENTAL
REMOVING THE VERY SUPPORTS THAT
THEY RELY ON.
CUTTING FOR FUNDING THAT WILL
RESULT IN LARGER CLASS SIZES,
REDUCING ONLINE COURSES IN HIGH
SCHOOL, WHEN WE KNOW FROM THE
RESEARCH THAT FEWER STUDENTS
WILL COMPLETE THOSE COURSES.
REDUCING STUDENT ASSISTANCE
GRANTS WILL MEAN HIGHER DEBT AND
LESS ACCESS TO POST-SECONDARY
EDUCATION.
CUTTING A BILLION DOLLARS IN
SOCIAL SERVICES THAT THE...

The Speaker says THANK YOU.
THANK YOU.
THANK YOU.
MINISTER OF ENERGY TO REPLY.

Rickford says THE MINISTER OF ENVIRONMENT.

[APPLAUSE]

The caption changes to "Honourable Rod Phillips. PC. Minister of the Environment, Conservation and Parks."

Phillips is in his early fifties, clean-shaven, with short gray hair. He wears a gray suit, white shirt and yellow tie.

He says MR. SPEAKER, I'M SURE IT MUST
BE FRUSTRATING FOR THE MEMBER
FROM DON VALLEY WEST TO SEE THE
PROGRAMS THAT SHE PUT IN PLACE,
THE PROGRAMS THAT FAILED, THE
PROGRAMS LIKE A CAP-AND-TRADE
PROGRAM, A PROGRAM THAT THE
AUDITOR GENERAL EXPLAINED TO THE
THEN PREMIER, BUT SHE WOULDN'T
LISTEN.

The Speaker says MEMBERS COME TO
ORDER.

Phillips says SHE SENT HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS
TO CALIFORNIA, MR. SPEAKER.
WHY DOES SHE LIKE CALIFORNIA
BETTER THAN ONTARIO TAXPAYERS?
IT MUST BE JUMP SETTING TO SEE A
PROGRAM PUT IN PLACE THAT'S
ACTUALLY GOING TO...

The Speaker says COME TO ORDER.

Phillips says MISTARGETS LIKE THE
PROGRAMS SHE PUPPET IN PLACE,
NOT BASED ON BENEFITTING LIBERAL
INSIDERS BUT BENEFITTING THE
PEOPLE OF ONTARIO.
OUR PROGRAMS ARE GOING TO HIT
THE TARGET THAT HER FEDERAL
MINISTER AGREED TO ARE 30 percent
TARGETS.
OUR PROGRAM IS GOING TO DO THAT,
WITHOUT A CAP-AND-TRADE PROGRAM,
WITHOUT A CARBON TAX, AND
WITHOUT SUBSIDIZING AND TAKING
WINNERS AND TAKING ELECTRIC
VEHICLE FACILITIES.
WE HAVE A REAL PLAN FOR
ONTARIANS...

The Speaker says THANK YOU.

[APPLAUSE]

The Speaker says THE HOUSE WILL
COME TO ORDER.
RESTART THE CLOCK.
NEXT question. The member for HASTINGS-LENNOX AND ADDINGTON.

The caption changes to "Daryl Kramp. PC. Hastings-Lennox and Addington."

Kramp is in his sixties, clean-shaven, with short side-parted white hair. He wears glasses, a gray suit, white shirt and striped gray tie.

He says MY QUESTION IS FOR ANOTHER
MINISTER WHO MAKES THINGS HAPPEN
OUR MINISTER OF INFRASTRUCTURE.
LAST FRIDAY I HAD THE CHANCE TO
JOIN THE MINISTER IN THE
MUNICIPALITY OF TWEED.
WE ANNOUNCED FUNDING FOR
PROJECTS RIGHT ACROSS OUR
PROVINCE.
THESE ARE TO INVEST IN CRITICAL
INFRASTRUCTURE WHERE THIS
MATTERS MOST.
THESE 49 PROJECTS ARE THE FIRST
THAT OUR GOVERNMENT NOMINATED IN
THE TEN-YEAR, 30 BILLION DOLLAR INFRASTRUCTURE PROGRAM KNOWN AS
THE INVEST IN CANADA
INFRASTRUCTURE PROGRAM.
COLLEAGUES, THIS IS AMAZING NEWS
FOR RURAL AND NORTHERN
MUNICIPALITIES IN ONTARIO, SMART
INFRASTRUCTURE INVESTMENT.
THEY CREATE JOBS.
THEY GROW THE ECONOMY, AND
PROTECT WHAT MATTERS MOST TO OUR
FAMILIES AND OUR COMMUNITIES,
OUR STUDENTS AND OUR BUSINESSES
HERE IN ONTARIO.
TO THE MINISTER, TELL US MORE
ABOUT THIS PROGRAM AND HOW IT
IMPACTS THE PEOPLE OF ONTARIO.

The Speaker says MINISTER OF
INFRASTRUCTURE.

The caption changes to "Honourable Monte McNaughton. PC. Minister of Infrastructure."

McNaughton is in his late thirties, clean-shaven, with receding short brown hair. He wears glasses, a gray suit, white shirt, and striped black tie.

He says WELL, THANK YOU VERY MUCH,
MR. SPEAKER, AND I WANT TO THANK
THE MEMBER FROM HASTINGS-LENNOX
AND ADDINGTON FOR THAT EXCELLENT
QUESTION, AND BEING WITH ME ON
FRIDAY.
MR. SPEAKER, OUR GOVERNMENT RAN
ON A MANDATE TO GET ONTARIO
MOVING.
WE ANNOUNCED FUNDING FOR BETTER
ROADS AND BRIDGES IN 49
DIFFERENT COMMUNITIES ACROSS
ONTARIO ON FRIDAY, AND, MR.
SPEAKER, THIS IS ONLY THE
BEGINNING.
THE MAJORITY OF THESE PROJECTS
CAN GET STARTED IN THIS
CONSTRUCTION SEASON WITH FEDERAL
GOVERNMENT SUPPORT.
I WAS GLAD TO SEE LAST WEEK MR.
SPEAKER, THAT MY HONOURABLE
FRIEND MINISTER CHAMPAGNE
DECLARED THAT ONTARIO'S
PRIORITIES WERE HIS PRIORITIES.
HE SAID HE WOULD WORK TO
SPEEDILY APPROVE THESE PROJECTS,
AND, MR. SPEAKER, THAT IS THE
RIGHT THING FOR THE FEDERAL
GOVERNMENT TO DO.
MR. SPEAKER, THESE PROJECTS ARE
VALUED AT OVER 78 MILLION DOLLARS, AND
THIS COMMITMENT IS MORE PROOF
THAT OUR GOVERNMENT IS
PROTECTING WHAT MATTERS MOST TO
THE PEOPLE.
GOOD ROADS GET PEOPLE TO WORK
AND HOME SAFELY SO THEY CAN
SPEND MORE TIME WITH THE PEOPLE
THEY LOVE.

The Speaker says SUPPLEMENTARY
QUESTIONS.

Kramp says MR. SPEAKER, AND MINISTER,
THANK YOU FOR THAT GOOD NEWS,
GREAT NEWS, AND YOUR CONTINUED
GUIDANCE AND SUPPORT FOR OUR
NORTHERN AND RURAL COMMUNITIES.
THIS PROGRAM DEMONSTRATES OUR
GOVERNMENT IS ABSOLUTELY
COMMITTED TO I CAN MAING THE
RIGHT INFRASTRUCTURE
ANNOUNCEMENTS.
MR. SPEAKER, FRIDAY'S
ANNOUNCEMENT, BACK IN MY RIDING
TOOK PLACE OUTSIDE THE BOUPDRY
OF RIDGE IN THE MUNICIPALITY OF
TWEED, AND I KNOW PERSONALLY
FROM TALKING TO ALL THE PEOPLE
THERE, HOW IT IMPACTS THEM AND
HOW MUCH THIS INVESTMENT FOR
BRING REPLACEMENT WILL
ABSOLUTELY, POSITIVELY AFFECT
THEIR LIVES IN THAT COMMUNITY.
MR. SPEAKER, SIX OF THESE
PROJECTS ARE LOCATED IN MY
RIDING.
MUNICIPALITIES SUCH AS TWIED,
STONE MILLS, HASTINGS HIGHLANDS.
KARLA MAYO, AND MANY WILL
BENEFIT FROM OVER 9.4 MILLION DOLLARS IN
FUNDING FOR ROAD AND BRIDGE
PROJECTS.
MR. SPEAKER, CAN THE MINISTER
TELL US MORE ABOUT THESE 49
PROJECTS, AND HOW THEY'RE
HELPING PEOPLE RIGHT ACROSS THIS
PROVINCE OF ONTARIO?

The Speaker says MINISTER?

McNaughton says WELL, THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER,
AND I WOULD BE HAPPY TO ANSWER
THAT EXCELLENT QUESTION.
MR. SPEAKER, SMALL AND
MEDIUM-SIZED TOWNS ARE THE
FABRIC OF OUR PROJECTS.
PROJECTS LIKE THE BOUNDARY
BRIDGE ARE INFRASTRUCTURE PEOPLE
NEED, THEY'RE ESSENTIAL TO THE
LOCAL QUALITY OF LIFE AND
PROSPERITY.
THEY CREATE JOBS, GROW OUR
ECONOMY, AND SHAPE THE FUTURE
FOR HARD-WORKING FAMILIES IN
ONTARIO.
I CAN ONLY IMAGINE, MR. SPEAKER,
HOW MUCH MORE WE COULD
ACCOMPLISH IF THE PREVIOUS
LIBERAL GOVERNMENT SUPPORTED BY
THE OPPOSITION NDP DID NOT LEAVE
US STUCK WITH A 15 BILLION DOLLAR DEFICIT.
MR. SPEAKER, WE'RE EXCITED ABOUT
THESE 49 PROJECTS.
WE ARE NOW AWAITING APPROVAL BY
THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT TO GO
AHEAD.
IF THEY CAN DO THIS, WE CAN GET
SHOVELS IN THE GROUND ALMOST
IMMEDIATELY.
MR. SPEAKER, WE'RE PROTECTING
WHAT MATTERS MOST IN GETTING
ONTARIO MOVING AGAIN.

The Speaker says RESPOND.

McNaughton says OUR GOVERNMENT IS WORKING
HARDER, SMARTER AND MORE
EFFICIENTLY TO MAKE LIFE BETTER
FOR THE PEOPLE OF THIS PROVINCE.

The Speaker says NEXT question. The member for BEACHES—EAST YORK.

The caption changes to "Rima Berns-McGown. NDP. Beaches-East York."

Berns-McGown is in her fifties, with shoulder-length curly brown hair with white strands. She wears a spotted white sweater.

She says WE LEARNED THE GOVERNMENT IS
CUTTING FUNDING FOR THE POVERTY
REDUCTION STRATEGY IN HALF.
DEFUNDING THE OFFICE BY
7.5 MILLION DOLLARS.
THE POVERTY REDUCTION STRATEGY
OFFICE WORKS TO BREAK THE CYCLE
OF INTERGENERATIONAL POVERTY,
IDENTIFY SYSTEMIC BARRIERS, AND
ELIMINATE CHRONIC HOMELESSNESS.
INSTEAD OF INVESTING IN
STRATEGIES TO ALLEVIATE POVERTY,
THE GOVERNMENT HAS SHOWN ITS
TRUE PRIORITIES.
CAN THE PREMIER PLEASE EXPLAIN
WHY ONCE AGAIN HIS GOVERNMENT IS
MAKING CUTS ON THE BACKS OF OUR
MOST VULNERABLE CITIZENS.

The Speaker says QUESTION IS TO
THE PREMIER.

Ford says MINISTER OF
CHILDREN AND COMMUNITY SOCIAL
SERVICES.

The Speaker says DEFER FOR
MINISTER OF CHILDREN' COMMUNITY
AND SOCIAL SERVICES.
COME TO ORDER.

The caption changes to "Honourable Lisa MacLeod. PC. Minister of Children, Community and Social Services."

MacLeod is in her forties, with shoulder-length, wavy blond hair. She wears a black dress.

She says ONE IN SEVEN ONTARIANS LIVE
IN POVERTY, ALMOST A MILLION PEOPLE RELY ON SOCIAL
ASSISTANCE.
THAT COSTS THIS PROVINCE, 10
BILLION DOLLARS BUT DOING NOTHING TO
RESTORE DIGNITY.
WHAT DOES RESTORE DIGNITY IS THE
CREATION OF JOBS IN THE PROVINCE
OF ONTARIO.
SINCE THIS GOVERNMENT HAS TAKEN
OFFICE WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO WORK
WITH INDUSTRY AND BUSINESS
LEADERS TO CREATE AN ADDITIONAL
160,000 JOBS IN ADDITION TO THE
200,000 JOBS THAT HAVE REMAINED
VACANT WHICH IS WHY WE'RE
REFORMING SOCIAL ASSISTANCE SO
THOSE PEOPLE WHO ARE EMPLOYABLE
ACROSS THIS PROVINCE HAVE THE
DIGNITY OF WORK, HAVE THE
COMPASSION OF A GROUP SOCIETY
WHERE THEY'RE WORKING WITH
INDIVIDUALS, AND WE KNOW,
SPEAKER, THAT THE BEST SOCIAL
PROGRAMS IS A JOB.
I UNDERSTAND THAT THE MEMBERS
OPPOSITE WOULD RATHER TRAP
PEOPLE INTO POVERTY WHILE THIS
GOVERNMENT AND THIS PARTY WANT
TO LIFT THEM UP SO THEY CAN
SUCCEED, AND THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT
THIS GOVERNMENT IS DOING.

The Speaker says STOP THE CLOCK.
ORDER.
RESTART THE CLOCK.
SUPPLEMENTARY QUESTION.

Berns-McGown says IN ITS RECENT POVERTY
REDUCTION STRATEGY REPORT, THE
GOVERNMENT STATED, AS THE
MINISTER JUST NOW, THAT SHE'S
COMMITTED TO SUPPORTING THOSE
WHO NEED IT THE MOST, BUT YOU
CANNOT SUPPORT THOSE WHO NEED
THE HELP THE MOST WHEN YOU CUT
FUNDING FOR AT THE POVERTY
REDUCTION STRATEGY OFFICE IN
HALF.
YOU CAN'T REDUCE POVERTY IN
ONTARIO WHEN YOU DON'T
UNDERSTAND HOW POVERTY WORKS, AS
THE MINISTER JUST DEMONSTRATED.
YOU CAN'T REDUCE POVERTY IN
ONTARIO WHEN YOU DON'T
UNDERSTAND WHAT SYSTEMIC ISSUES
PERPETUATE IT, AND WHEN YOU
DON'T HAVE A PLAN AND A
COMMITMENT TO MAKING THAT
CHANGE.
CAN THE PREMIER EXPLAIN HOW THE
GOVERNMENT THINKS SLASHING THE
POVERTY REDUCTION POVERTY
FUNDING WILL ACTUALLY HELP THOSE
LIVING IN POVERTY, MANY OF WHOM
CANNOT WORK, WHICH IS WHY THE
IDEA THAT A JOB IS A SOLUTION IS
ABSOLUTELY RIDICULOUS.

The Speaker says MINISTER, REPLY.

MacLeod says SPEAKER, I COME FROM A SMALL
TOWN IN NEW GLASGOW, NOVA SCOTIA
WHERE THEY WASN'T BIG
GOVERNMENT, NEIGHBOURS SUPPORTED
ONE ANOTHER AND MADE SURE PEOPLE
CAN FIND SUITABLE EMPLOYMENT.
I DON'T KNOW WHY THE MEMBERS
OPPOSITE ARE SO OPPOSED TO A
GOOD DAY'S WORK AND A SOLID
DAY'S PAY.
I CAN TELL YOU THIS GOVERNMENT
IS FOR THE PEOPLE, IS COMMITTED
TO ENSURE WE PROVIDE WRAP-AROUND
SUPPORT FOR THOSE WHO CAN WORK.
THAT IS WHY I'M WORKING WITH THE
MINISTER...

The Speaker says COME TO ORDER.

MacLeod says SO WE CAN PROVIDE THE BEST
WRAP-AROUND SUPPORT FOR THOSE
WHO ARE EMPLOYABLE TO GET INTO
THOSE 300,000 AND SOME JOBS WE
KNOW EXIST IN THIS PROVINCE.
THAT'S WHY WE'RE WORKING WITH
THE MINISTER OF HEALTH, SO WE
CAN PROVIDE THE BEST MENTAL
HEALTH SUPPORT, AND WE'RE
WORKING WITH THE MINISTER OF
EDUCATION TO GELT MORE
AFFORDABLE DAYCARE FOR SINGLE
MOMS OUT THERE WHO MIGHT HAVE TO
STAY ON SOCIAL ASSISTANCE RATHER
THAN GET JOBS, BECAUSE THEY
DON'T HAVE AFFORDABLE CHILD
CARE...

The Speaker says THANK YOU.
THANK YOU.
STOP THE CLOCK.

[APPLAUSE]

The Speaker says ORDER.
MEMBER FOR OTTAWA CENTRE HAS TO
COME TO ORDER.
THE MEMBER FOR WINDSOR-TECUMSEH
COME TO ORDER, THE MEMBER FOR HAMILTON MOUNTAIN COME TO ORDER
FOR REPEATED INTERJECTIONS IN
THE LAST ROUND OF QUESTIONS.
START THE CLOCK.
I RECOGNIZE THE MEMBER FOR LANARK-FRONTENAC-KINGSTON.

The caption changes to "Randy Hillier. Independent. Lanark-Frontenac-Kingston."

Hillier is in his early sixties, clean-shaven, with short receding gray hair. He wears glasses, a gray suit and a white shirt.

He says THANK YOU, SPEAKER.
SPEAKER, MY QUESTION IS FOR THE
MINISTER OF CHILDREN AND COMMUNE
SOCIAL SERVICES.
I'VE WORKED WELL WITH THE
MINISTER IN THE PAST AS
ADVOCATES TO END VIOLENCE
AGAINST WOMEN.
LAST WEEK I MET WITH AARON LEE,
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF LANARK
COUNTY INTERVAL HOUSE WHICH
PROVIDES CRITICAL SERVICES FOR
VICTIMS OF DOMESTIC VIOLENCE.
ERIN IS CONCERNED THAT THE
GOVERNMENT CANCELLED 53,000 IN
FUNDING.
IN ADDITION, NONE OF THE
INTERVAL HOUSES AND WOMEN'S
SHELTERS HAVE RECEIVED THEIR
2019 BUDGET PACKAGE OR THEIR
CONTRACT FOR SERVICES.
MINISTER, THIS IS NOT EFFICIENT.
IT CERTAINLY LACKS
ACCOUNTABILITY TO HAVE WOMEN'S
SHELTERS OPERATING WITHOUT A
BUDGET.
WILL THE MINISTER COMMIT TO
ENDING THE PRACTICE OF
UNILATERAL AND HIDDEN FUNDING
DECISIONS THAT HARM THOSE WHO
HELP VICTIMS OF DOMESTIC
VIOLENCE?

The Speaker says QUESTION TO THE
MINISTER OF CHILDREN AND
COMMUNITY SOCIAL SERVICES.

MacLeod says THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER, I TOO
MET WITH AARON LEE LAST WEEK OF
THE INTERVAL HOUSE.
WE HAD ALL 48 OF THE
COORDINATING COMMITTEES FOR
VIOLENCE AGAINST WOMEN JOIN US
LAST WEEK TO TALK ABOUT SOME OF
THE ISSUES THAT WE FACE ON THE
GROUND.
BUT BEFORE I GO INTO THAT, I
WANT TO SAY ONE THING TO THE MEMBER OPPOSITE.
THE REASON WE HAVE A
1.5 MILLION DOLLAR FRONTLINE RURAL
STRATEGY IS IN ESSENCE BECAUSE
OF THREE MEMBERS OF THIS
ASSEMBLY WHO I SERVE WITH IN
OPPOSITION, AND ONE IS THE MEMBER FROM LANARY, PREM BROOK
AND LEADS AND GRENVILLE, THREE
STRONG MEN WHO HAVE COPTLY TIME
AND AGAIN STOOD IN THIS
LEGISLATURE, AND THAT'S WHY WE
ARE INVESTING AN HISTORIC 1 P
4 MILLION DOLLARS INTO VIOLENCE AGAINST
WOMEN.
THAT'S WHY ABOVE AND BEYOND THE
PREVIOUS LIBERAL ADMINISTRATION
WE HAVE INCREASED THE BUDGET FOR
VIOLENCE AGAINST WOMEN FOR AN
ADDITIONAL 2 percent.
I'LL GET INTO MORE SPECIFICS IN
THE SUPPLEMENTAL, BUT I WANT TO
THANK THE MEMBER FOR ALWAYS
STANDING TRUE.

The Speaker says THANK YOU,
SUPPLEMENTARY QUESTIONS.

Hillier says THANK YOU, MINISTER.
YESTERDAY DURING STATEMENTS I
MENTIONED THAT ELECTED
REPRESENTATIVES AUT TO PRACTICE
IN GOVERNMENT WHAT WE PRACTICE
IN THE OPPOSITION.
THE YEAR OVER YEAR ESTIMATES
SHOW A REDUCTION OF 17 MILLION DOLLARS FOR WOMEN'S SHELTERS AND
SUPPORTS FOR VICTIMS OF VIOLENCE
FROM 172 TO 155 MILLION DOLLARS.
IN OPPOSITION WE BOTH WERE VERY
CRITICAL OF GOVERNMENT FOR
LEAVING AGENCIES AND
ORGANIZATIONS IN THE DARK ON
THEIR FUNDING, YET WE STILL HAVE
TODAY THESE SHELTERS OPERATING
IN UNCERTAINTY.
WITHOUT THIS CRITICAL BUDGET
INFORMATION, BOTH THE SHELTERS
AND THE WOMEN AND CHILDREN THEY
SERVE ARE LIVING IN THE DARK.
MINISTER, WILL YOU CALL AARON
LEE AND ALL THE SHELTERS THIS
WEEK AND REVEAL WHAT THEIR
BUDGETS ARE FOR 2019?

The Speaker says MINISTER TO REPLY.

The caption changes to "Honourable Lisa MacLeod. PC. Minister Responsible for Women's Issues."

MacLeod says SPEAKER, I MENTIONED I MET
WITH AARON LEE AS WELL AS ALL 48
COMMUNITY GROUPS LAST WEEK.
WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO HAVE
THOSE CONVERSATIONS.
IN FACT, I'VE SPOKEN WITH THE
MINISTER OF HEALTH ABOUT
CONVENING A MEETING WITH HER
WITH RESPECT TO MENTAL HEALTH
ISSUES.
BUT LET ME BE PERFECTLY CLEAR
WHERE IT COMES TO THE NUMBERS
THE MEMBER OPPOSITE IS DATING.
THESE PERCEIVED REDUCTIONS ARE
DUE TO THE ELIMINATION OF
UNFUNDED AND UNALLOCATED
RESOURCES FROM THE LIBERAL
CAMPAIGN BUDGET.
THAT WAS IRRESPONSIBLE.
MANY OF US IN THE SOCIAL SERVICE
TYPES OF PORTFOLIO HAVE HAD TO
CONTEND WITH A FICTITIOUS BUDGET
THAT WAS WRITTEN ON THE BACK OF
A NAPKIN, WHEN IT BECAME CLEAR
WE ENSURE IN THIS GOVERNMENT
THAT WE INCREASED THE SPEND BY
ALMOST 2 percent OR...

The Speaker says ORDER.

MacLeod says IN ORDER TO SUPPORT WOMEN'S
SHELTERS ACROSS THE PROVINCE OF
ONTARIO.
MY OFFICE CONTINUES TO WORK WITH
THEM AND WE WILL CONTINUE TO
MAKE OUR COMMITMENT TO ERASE
VIOLENCE AGAINST WOMEN IN THE
PROVINCE OF ONTARIO.
THERE WILL BE NO FIERCER CRITIC
THAN WE ON THAT FILE.
THANK YOU, SPEAKER.

The Speaker says THANK YOU.
THE NEXT question. The member for Durham.

The caption changes to "Lindsey E. Park. PC. Durham."

Park is in her twenties, with long straight blond hair. She wears a white blazer and a mint green blouse.

She says THANK YOU, SPEAKER.
MY QUESTION IS TO THE MINISTER
RESPONSIBLE FOR WOMEN'S ISSUES.
OVER THE WEEKEND IT WAS GREAT TO
SEE SO MANY MEMORIES AND VIDEOS
SHARED ON SOCIAL MEDIA
CELEBRATING MOTHERS ACROSS
ONTARIO.
OUR MOTHERS ARE SO OFTEN THE
MOST IMPORTANT WOMEN IN OUR
LIVES.
I CAN SAY THAT'S TRUE IN MY
CASE.
UNFORTUNATELY, WOMEN STILL FACE
BARRIERS RIGHT HERE IN ONTARIO.
TOO OFTEN WOMEN EARN LESS THAN
THEIR MALE COUNTERPARTS, AND
COUNTLESS WOMEN IN OUR
COMMUNITIES ARE CONFRONTED BY
SEXUAL AND DOMESTIC VIOLENCE.
MINISTER, CAN YOU PLEASE TELL US
HOW THE GOVERNMENT IS WORKING TO
BREAK DOWN THESE BARRIERS AND
HELP KEEP WOMEN SAFE ACROSS THE
PROVINCE?

The Speaker says MINISTER
RESPONSIBLE FOR WOMEN.

MacLeod says I WANT TO THANK THE MEMBER FOR DURHAM FOR ALWAYS STANDING
IN THIS LEGISLATURE AND BE A
VERY STRONG ADVOCATE FOR WOMEN
FLEEING DOMESTIC VIOLENCE, AS
WELL AS WOMEN STUCK IN
TRAFFICKING.
I'VE BEEN A MEMBER IN THIS
CONSTITUENCY SO... I'VE BEEN A
STRONG ADVOCATE IN MAKING SURE
THAT WE CONTINUE THE WORK OF
SAVING THE GIRL NEXT DOOR BY
LAURIE SCOTT MAKING SURE WE'RE
TALKING ABOUT ERADICATING SEX
TRAFFICKING IN ONTARIO.
WE'RE WORKING WITH THIS
GOVERNMENT TO PROTECT A WOMAN'S
RIGHT TO CHOOSE.
LET ME BE CLEAR, LAST WEEK I HAD
THE 48 COMMUNITY GROUPS THAT
SUPPORT VIOLENCE AGAINST WOMEN'S
INITIATIVES AND WE'RE GOING TO
CONTINUE TO WORK WITH THEM.
THAT'S WHY WE HAVE AN HISTORIC
INVESTMENT OF...

The Speaker says RESPOND.

MacLeod says INDICATING FRONT LINE
SUPPORT FOR THOSE IN RURAL
COMMUNITIES AND WE'RE GOING TO
CONTINUE TO STAND UP AND
CONTINUE TO ENSURE THAT OUR
VOICES ARE HEARD.
LET ME BE CLEAR.
WE SUPPORT VULNERABLE WOMEN...

The Speaker says THANK YOU.
THANK YOU.
SUPPLEMENTARY QUESTION.

Park says THANK YOU, SPEAKER, VIOLENCE
AGAINST WOMEN HAS SIGNIFICANT
ECONOMIC COSTS.
I THINK PEOPLE SOMETIMES FORGET
THAT.
IT'S ESTIMATED THAT THE ECONOMIC
IMPACT OF SPOUSAL VIOLENCE IN
CANADA IS 7.4 BILLION DOLLARS.
THAT AMOUNTS TO ROUGHLY 220 PER
CANADIAN.
WHILE WE'VE MADE PROGRESS TO
ACHIEVE GREATER GENDER
EQUALITIES, WE MUST HAVE WOMEN
FULLY ENGAGED IN THE POLITICAL
DISCOURSE.
SPEAKER, CAN THE MINISTER PLEASE
TELL US HOW SHE'S ENGAGING WOMEN
IN THIS POLITICAL DISCOURSE IN
ONTARIO?

The Speaker says MINISTER.

MacLeod says THANKS VERY MUCH, MR.
SPEAKER.
AS I MENTIONED, I CONVENED
ONTARIO'S 48 EXISTING VIOLENCE
AGAINST WOMEN COORDINATING
COMMITTEES JUST LAST WEEK.
TREMENDOUS WOMEN AND MEN FROM
ACROSS THE PROVINCE MAKING SURE
THAT WE PROTECT OUR MOST
VULNERABLE.
WE MUST CONTINUE TO HAVE THIS
CONVERSATION.
HOWEVER, BECAUSE IT IS EASY,
PARTICULARLY WITHIN THIS
MINISTRY WHERE ONTARIO'S MOST
VULNERABLE PEOPLE RELY ON US TO
SUCCEED THAT WE CONTINUE TO TELL
THE UNCOMFORTABLE STORIESENED A
THE TRUTHS THAT ARE OUT THERE.
WHICH IS WHY WE WILL CONTINUE TO
WORK WITH THOSE COORDINATING
COMMITTEES, BRING IN OTHER
MINISTERS SO THEY UNDERSTAND HOW
WE INTERSECT AND HELP VIOLENCE
AGAINST WOMEN AND THE SURVIVORS
OF THAT.
WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE PROVIDE
BEST POSSIBLE OUTCOMES.
SPEAKER, WE NEED TO LOOK AND SEE
WHAT THOSE ISSUES ARE IN ALL OF
OUR COMMUNITIES.
I THINK WHEN WE LOOK AT BUILDING
UP SOCIETY, AND WE BUILD UP
WOMEN, WE MUST ALSO MAKE SURE
THAT MEN ARE PART OF THAT
CONVERSATION, WHICH IS WHY JUST
LAST FRIDAY I WAS PLEASED TO
SPEND SOME TIME WITH GRADE 7 TO
11 MALE STUDENTS TALKING ABOUT
MANNING UP.
I THINK WE ALL HAVE AN
OPPORTUNITY HERE TO TALK TO THE
MEN IN OUR LIVES TO MAKE SURE
THEY'RE PROTECTING THE MOST
VULNERABLE WOMEN IN SOCIETY.
THANK YOU.

The Speaker says THE NEXT question. The member for Kitchener Centre.

The caption changes to "Laura Mae Lindo. NDP. Kitchener Centre."

Lindo is in her thirties, with long highlighted hair in thin dreads. She wears glasses, a black blazer, black shirt, and black headscarf.

She says THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER.
MY QUESTION IS TO THE PREMIER.
SINCE SEPTEMBER I HAVE ASKED
EVERY MINISTER RESPONSIBLE FOR
ANTI-RACISM FOR A BRIEFING.
THESE REQUESTS HAVE GONE
UNANSWERED.
IN PURSUIT OF ANSWERS, I WAS
TOLD TO BE PATIENT AND TO WAIT
FOR THE ESTIMATES, WHICH I WAS
ASSURED WOULD SHOW THE
GOVERNMENT'S PLAN TO ANTI-RACISM
WORK.
WHILE THE ANTI-RACISM
DIRECTORATE WAS LISTED IN THE
ESTIMATE, I WAS DISTURBED TO SEE
THERE WAS ONLY 1,000 DEDICATED
TO, QUOTE, ANTI-RACISM
INITIATIVES.
MR. SPEAKER, CAN THE PREMIER
PLEASE EXPLAIN TO THE PEOPLE OF
ONTARIO WHAT KIND OF WORK
11,000 CAN DO TO COMBAT RACISM,
WHICH IS SADLY ON THE RISE IN
THE PROVINCE?

The Speaker says QUESTION TO THE
PREMIER.

Ford says SOLICITOR GENERAL.

The Speaker says DEFERRED TO THE
SOLICITOR GENERAL.

Jones says THANK YOU, SPEAKER.
THE MEMBER OPPOSITE IS USING
NUMBERS THAT, FRANKLY, HAVE NO
BASIS IN FACT.
WE HAVE RELIED ON THE...

The Speaker says ORDER.

Jones says THE AINLT RACISM
DIRECTORATE TO DRIVE OUR
LEGISLATIVE AGENDA...
ANTI-RACISM.
THE OPS THAT WORK IN THIS
DIRECTORATE DO EXCELLENT WORK,
AND WE USE THAT WHEN WE ARE
DOING THINGS LIKES UPDATING THE
COMPREHENSIVE ONTARIO POLICE
SERVICES ACT.
WHEN WE LOOK AT POLICY CHANGES,
WE MAKE SURE THAT THERE IS THEIR
VOICE AND THEIR INPUT AND IMPACT
IS VERY IMPORTANT TO US.
THERE IS NO DOUBT THAT
ANTI-RACISM IN ALL ITS FORMS IS
COMPLETELY UNACCEPTABLE TO OUR
GOVERNMENT, AND WE WILL CONTINUE
TO...

The Speaker says RESPONSE.

Jones says WE WILL CONTINUE TO WORK
WITH OUR PARTNERS TO MAKE SURE
WE DRIVE DECISIONS BASED ON THAT
INPUT.
THANK YOU.

The Speaker says SUPPLEMENTARY
QUESTION.

Lindo says THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER.
AGAIN TO THE PREMIER, THE STORY
THAT THESE ESTIMATES TELL US IS
THAT THE CONSERVATIVES ARE JUST
NOT INTERESTED IN DOING RACIAL
JUSTICE WORK.
THEY'RE UNWILLING TO TAKE
CONCRETE STEPS TOWARDS RACIAL
EQUITIES.
THERE'S MONEY ALLOCATED TO STAFF
AND ADVERTISING, BUT NO MONEY TO
DO THE ACTUAL ANTI-RACISM WORK.
NO MONEY TO INVEST IN THE
ORGANIZATIONS AND PROGRAMS WHICH
ARE MAKING PROGRESS ON THESE
ISSUES, AND NO MONEY TO RESOURCE
THE BLACK INDIGENOUS, JEWISH
THAT THIS GOVERNMENT DISBANDED
DESPITE HATE CRIME BEING ON THE
RISE.
DOES THE PREMIER BELIEVE WE CAN
SOLVE RACISM WITH 1,000.

The Speaker says QUESTIONS
DEFERRED TO...

Jones says THANK YOU, SPEAKER, AGAIN, I
WILL SAY, I WILL REINFORCE THAT
THERE IS NO ROOM IN A FORD
GOVERNMENT THAT WOULD IN ANY WAY
ALLOW ANTI-RACISM TO CONTINUE IN
THE PROVINCE OF ONTARIO.
WE ARE ACTIVELY ENGAGED IN
WORKING WITH THE DIRECTOR.
WE WILL CONTINUE THAT WORK.
BUT LET'S BE CLEAR.
WE'RE ASKING EVERYONE ACROSS
ONTARIO TO PLAY A SMALL PART IN
ENSURING THAT WE BRING ONTARIO'S
FISCAL HEALTH BACK TO ORDER.

The Speaker says OPPOSITION COME
TO ORDER.

Jones says IN A SMALL WAY WE'LL ASK ALL
ORGANIZATIONS AND AGENCIES, OUR
TRANSFER PARTNERS, THAT ARE PART
OF OUR ABILITY TO ENSURE THAT
ONTARIO'S FISCAL HEALTH RETURNS
TO BALANCE, BECAUSE AT THE END
OF THE DAY WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE
THE GOVERNMENT, AS CITIZENS THAT
WE PROTECT WHAT MATTERS MOST.
WE WILL DO THAT, WE WILL DO THAT
WITH THE EXCELLENT PARTNERS THAT
WE HAVE, AND WE WILL MAKE SURE
THAT WE ARE BRINGING FORWARD
POLICIES AND IDEAS THAT
ACTUALLY...

The Speaker says THANK YOU.
THE NEXT question. The member for NORTHUMBERLAND-Peterborough SOUTH.

The caption changes to "David Piccini. PC. Northumberland-Peterborough South."

Piccini is in his early forties, clean-shaven, with short blond hair. He wears a gray suit, white shirt, and blue tie.

He says MY MEMBER IT TO MINISTER OF
AGRICULTURE AND FOOD AFFAIRS.
WE WERE ASKED TO STAND UP FOR
RURAL AND INDIGENOUS
COMMUNITIES.
THESE REGIONS HAD BEEN REJECTED
BY THE PREVIOUS GOVERNMENT.
MY PREDECESSOR CALLED NORTHERN
ONTARIO, NO MAN'S LAND.
OVER THOSE 15 YEARS, ONTARIANS
SAW INVESTMENTS GRIND TO A HALT.
THEY FOUNDATIONED ROADBLOCK
AFTER ROAD BLOCK, OUTDATED AND
REDUNDANT RED TAPE AND LACK OF
INFRASTRUCTURE AND RESOURCES AND
MEANINGFUL DIALOGUE WITH OUR
MUNICIPALITIES PREVENTED THESE
REGIONS FROM REACHING THEIR FULL
ECONOMIC POTENTIAL.
MR. SPEAKER, CAN THE MINISTER
PLEASE TELL THE HOUSE ABOUT THE
WORK OUR GOVERNMENT IS DOING TO
ENSURE THAT ONTARIO'S RURAL
COMMUNITIES REMAIN SUSTAINABLE
AND VIABLE PLACES TO LIVE, WORK,
AND RAISE A FAMILY.

The Speaker says MINISTER OF
AGRICULTURE, FOOD AND RURAL AFFAIRS.

The caption changes to "Honourable Ernie Hardeman. PC. Minister of Agriculture, Food and Rural Affairs."

Hardeman is in his sixties, clean-shaven, with short gray hair. He wears glasses, a gray suit, blue shirt, and black tie.

He says THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER, AND I
WANT TO THANK THE MEMBER FROM
ENERGETIC UHM BERLAND
PETERBOROUGH SOUTH FOR THAT
EXCELLENT QUESTION.
OUR GOVERNMENT IS COMMITTED TO
WORKING WITH OUR RURAL
COMMUNITIES TO ENSURE THEY HAVE
THE RESOURCES THEY NEED TO
ATTRACT INVESTMENT, CREATE JOBS,
AND BOOST ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.
THAT'S WHY LAST WEEK I WAS PROUD
TO ANNOUNCE THAT OUR GOVERNMENT
HAS COMMITTED TO REVITALIZING
THE RURAL ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT
OR RED PROGRAM.
THE RURAL ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT
PROGRAM WILL CONTINUE TO SUPPORT
PROJECTS THAT DIVERSIFY AND GROW
LOCAL ECONOMIES.
IT WILL NOW ALSO TARGET MORE
IMPACTFUL PROJECTS, TANGIBLE
COMMUNITY BENEFITS SUCH AS
REDUCING THE BURDEN FOR
APPLICANTS, AND CREATING
EFFICIENCIES IN PROGRAM
DELIVERY.
THIS PROGRAM IS JUST ONE OF THE
TOOLS THAT OUR GOVERNMENT IS
UTILIZING TO ENSURE THAT
ONTARIANS' TAXPAYER DOCTORS ARE
RESPECTED WHILE DELIVERING
RESULTS FOR OUR RURAL
COMMUNITIES.

The Speaker says THANK YOU.
SUPPLEMENTARY QUESTION.

Piccini says THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER, AND
THANK YOU TO THE MINISTER FOR
HIS RESPONSE AND FOR THE WORK
HE'S DOING TO PROMOTE RURAL
ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.
I KNOW THAT RURAL RESIDENTS IN
MY RIDING ARE HAPPY THAT OUR
GOVERNMENT IS CREATING MORE
OPPORTUNITY FOR RURAL ONTARIO.
WE'RE CREATING AN ENVIRONMENT
WHERE OUR JOB CREATORS CAN
THRIVE, ESPECIALLY THOSE IN
RURAL ONTARIO.
IN LESS THAN A YEAR, MR.
SPEAKER, WE'VE SEEN INVESTMENTS
OPEN TWO STREAMS, RURAL AND
NORTHERN, PUBLIC TRANSIT THAT'S
MEANT SHOVELS IN THE GROUND IN
MY COMMUNITY, SHOVELS IN THE
GROUND IN MY COLLEAGUE'S
COMMUNITY AND ACROSS RURAL
ONTARIO.
BECAUSE OUR GOVERNMENT KNOWS
WHEN RURAL COMMUNITIES THRIVE
ONTARIO THRIVES.
CAN THE MINISTER PLEASE EXPAND
UPON HOW OUR GOVERNMENT IS
SUPPORTING JOB CREATION AND
ECONOMIC GROWTH ACROSS RURAL
ONTARIO?

The Speaker says MINISTER TO REPLY.

Hardeman says MR. SPEAKER, I'D LIKE TO
REFER TO THE MINISTER OF
ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, JOB
CREATION AND TRAINING.

The Speaker says MINISTER.

The caption changes to "Honourable Todd Smith. PC. Minister of Economic Development, Job Creation and Trade."

Smith is in his late forties, balding, with a gray goatee. He wears a gray suit, white shirt, and checked blue tie.

He says I'D LIKE TO THANK THE
MINISTER OF AGRICULTURE FOR
SHARING THIS MORNING AND I'D
LIKE TO THANK MY FRIEND
MR. PERCINI FOR THE QUESTION
THIS MORNING.
OTHER GOVERNMENT CAME INTO
OFFICE WITH A COMMITMENT TO
CREATE JOBS NOT JUST IN BIG
CITIES LIKE TORONTO AND OTTAWA,
BUT ENSURE WE'RE CREATING GOOD
JOBS RIGHT ACROSS ONTARIO, MR.
SPEAKER, AND THAT'S WHY WE'RE
REDUCING RED TAPE ACROSS
ONTARIO.
THAT'S WHY WE'RE LOWERING THE
HYDRO RATES, AND THAT'S WHY
WE'RE LOWERING TAXES SO THAT
BUSINESSES ACROSS ONTARIO CAN
SUCCEED.
WE'RE CREATING AN ENVIRONMENT
WHERE JOB CREATORS CAN CREATE
MORE JOBS, THROUGH BILL 66,
RESTORING ONTARIO'S
COMPETITIVENESS ACT, MR.
SPEAKER, WE REMOVED BURDENSOME
RED TAPE AFFECTING OUR
AGRICULTURAL SECTOR AND THANKS
TO THE MINISTER FOR HELPING ON
THAT FILE TO MAKE IT EASIER FOR
FARMERS TO REGISTER ONLINE,
REDUCING THE MILK ACT AND REDUCE
RED TAPE FOR MEAT PRODUCERS, ALL
GOOD THINGS TO CREATE JOBS IN
RURAL ONTARIO.
WE'RE WORKING WITH OUR
COMMUNITIES TO ENSURE THAT
ONTARIO IS OPEN FOR BUSINESS.
THANK YOU.

The Speaker says RESTART THE
CLOCK.
NEXT QUESTION. The MEMBER FOR SPADINA FORT YORK.

The caption changes to "Chris Glover. NDP. Spadina-Fort York."

Glover is in his late forties, with short white hair and a boxed beard. He wears a dark blue suit, white shirt, and gray tie.

He says THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER.
MY QUESTION IS FOR THE PREMIER.
THE PREMIER'S MINISTER OF
FINANCE SAID, QUOTE, I LOOK AT
THE YOUNG PEOPLE THAT ARE HERE
TODAY AND I THINK ABOUT THE DEBT
THAT YOU'RE INHERITING AND IT
SADDENS ME.
WHAT SADDENS ME, MR. SPEAKER, IS
THAT THIS GOVERNMENT IS DIRECTLY
DOWNLOADING 414 MILLION DOLLARS IN
STUDENT DEBT ON TO YOUNG PEOPLE.
IS THE PREMIER NOT SADDENED BY
THE HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF
DOLLARS IN ADDITIONAL DEBT THAT
STUDENTS HAVE TO TAKE ON BECAUSE
OF ITS CALLOUS CUTS TO OSAP?

The Speaker says QUESTION IS TO
THE PREMIER.

Ford says MINISTER OF
TRAINING COLLEGES AND
UNIVERSITIES.

The Speaker says DEFERRED TO
MINISTER OF COLLEGES TRAINING
AND UNIVERSITIES.

The caption changes to "Honourable Merrilee Fullerton. PC. Minister of Training, Colleges and Universities."

Fullerton is in her forties, with long wavy blond hair and bangs. She wears a tan blazer over a black shirt.

She says THANK YOU, SPEAKER, AND THANK
YOU TO THE MEMBER OPPOSITE FOR
THAT QUESTION.
OUR GOVERNMENT IS TAKING ACTION
TO DELIVER ON ITS PROMISES TO
THE PEOPLE OF ONTARIO AND
RESTORE TRUST AND ACCOUNTABILITY
IN ONTARIO'S FINANCES.
WE PROMISED THE PEOPLE OF
ONTARIO TO CREATE GOOD JOBS AND
WE WANT TO ENSURE THAT ONTARIANS
HAVE THE SKILLS THEY NEED TO
FILL THOSE JOBS.
POST-SECONDARY EDUCATION IS
CRITICAL TO THE FUTURE OF
ONTARIO AND OUR NEXT
GENERATIONS.
OUR GOVERNMENT HAS BEEN CLEAR
THAT WE WILL BALANCE THE BUDGET
IN A RESPONSIBLE MANNER, AND
DELIVER ON OUR PROMISE TO
RESTORE ACCOUNTABILITY AND TRUST
IN ONTARIO'S FINANCES.
THE PREVIOUS LIBERAL GOVERNMENT
CREATED A 15 BILLION DOLLAR DEFICIT,
MADE ONTARIO THE MOST INDEBTED
SUBNATIONAL JURISDICTION IN ALL
THE WORLD, AND WAS SPENDING
40 MILLION DOLLARS A DAY MORE THAN THEY
BROUGHT IN.
IT LEFT UNCHECKED A DEFICIT THAT
WILL PUT ESSENTIAL SERVICES LIKE
HEALTH CARE, EDUCATION...

The Speaker says THANK YOU.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
SUPPLEMENTARY QUESTIONS.

Glover says THANK YOU MR. SPEAKER, AGAIN
TO THE PREMIER, IN OCTOBER THE
MINISTER OF TRAINING, COLLEGES
AND UNIVERSITIES SAID IN THIS
HOUSE, AND I QUOTE, UNLIKE THE
PREVIOUS LIBERAL GOVERNMENT, WE
KNOW THAT WE HAVE A
RESPONSIBILITY TO OUR YOUNG
PEOPLE TO INVEST IN THEIR
EDUCATION, AND NOT TO LEAVE THEM
WITH AN UNSUSTAINABLE DEBT
LOOKED LIKE FOR THEIR CHILDREN
AND GRANDCHILDREN.

[APPLAUSE]

Glover says YES.
THERE'S A CONTRADICTION HERE.
NOW THERE'S A CONTRADICTION
BETWEEN THE MINISTER'S WORDS AND
THE ACTIONS OF THIS GOVERNMENT.
YET, WHEN THE MINISTER FAILS TO
UNDERSTAND IS HER ACTIONS TO CUT
650 MILLION DOLLARS FROM COLLEGES AND
UNIVERSITIES, AND OVER
400 MILLION DOLLARS FROM OSAP WILL
LEAVE OUR CHILDREN AND
GRANDCHILDREN WITH EVEN MORE
STUDENT DEBT.
WHY DOES THE PREMIER AND HIS
MINISTRY WANT STUDENTS TO START
THEIR LIFE UNDER A MOUNTAIN OF
DEBT?

The Speaker says DEFERRED TO THE
MINISTER OF COLLEGES
UNIVERSITIES AND TRAINING.

Fullerton says THANK YOU.
UNLIKE THE PREVIOUS LIBERAL
GOVERNMENT PROPPED UP BY THE
NDP, WE ARE BALANCING ONTARIANS'
BUDGET IN A RESPONSIBLE MANNER,
WHILE PROTECTING WHAT MATTERS
MOST TO THE PEOPLE OF ONTARIO.
AND IF LEFT UNCHECKED, THE
DEFICIT THREATENS ESSENTIAL
SERVICES THAT THE PEOPLE OF
ONTARIO RELY ON.
IN TERMS OF THE FIGURE, YOU
KNOW, AND THE THINGS YOU
MENTIONED, I CAN SAY THAT THE
FIGURE REPRESENTS POST-SECONDARY
REFORMS, INCLUDING OUR HISTORIC
10 percent REDUCTION IN TUITION FOR ALL
ONTARIO STUDENTS, WHICH WILL
PROVIDE ONTARIO STUDENTS
450 MILLION DOLLARS IN TUITION RELIEF.
AND BY LOWERING TUITION ACROSS
THE ENTIRE PROVINCE, OUR
GOVERNMENT IS ENSURING THAT ALL
QUALIFIED ONTARIO STUDENTS WILL
HAVE MORE ACCESS TO HIGH QUALITY
SKILLS TRAINING AND EDUCATION.
SPEAKER, WE ARE FOCUSED ON
PROTECTING THE SERVICES THAT
MATTER MOST TO THE PEOPLE OF Ontario.

Watch: Question Period: Tuesday, May 14, 2019