Transcript: Question Period: Monday, May 6, 2019 | May 07, 2019

A still camera shows the Ontario Legislature. A caption on screen reads "Oral questions."

The Speaker stands. He's is in his fifties, clean-shaven, with short light brown hair. He wears a black robe.

The Speaker says IT IS NOW TIME FOR ORAL QUESTIONS.
AND I RECOGNIZE THE LEADER OF THE OFFICIAL OPPOSITION.

[APPLAUSE]

The caption changes to "Andrea Horwath. NDP. Leader of Her Majesty's Loyal Opposition."

Horwath is in her fifties, with straight blond hair in a bob. She wears a fuchsia blazer over a floral print blouse.

She says THANK YOU, SPEAKER.
SPEAKER, BEFORE I GET
STARTED I JUST ON BEHALF OF
NEW DEMOCRATS, WANT TO
EXTEND OUR SINCERE
CONDOLENCES TO THE FAMILY
AND FRIENDS OF TERESA LECCE
AND TO THE MEMBER FOR THEIR
LOSS.
I ALSO WANT TO MENTION THAT
THE PREMIER AND I WERE BOTH
IN THE MUSKOKAS ON THE
WEEKEND LOOKING AT SOME OF
THE HORRIFYING DAMAGE AND
HEARTBREAKING DAMAGE THAT
THE FLOODS HAD CREATED.
CERTAINLY WANT TO MENTION
MAJOR SCOTT GLAM OF THE 7TH
TORONTO REGIMENT R.C.A. AND
COMMANDING OFFICER OF THE
SCOTTISH REGIMENT AND ALL
THEIR FOLKS AND OTHERS WHO
ARE DOING THEIR VERY, VERY
BEST TO HELP PEOPLE OUT AT A
HORRIFYING HEARTBREAKING
TIME.

[APPLAUSE]

Horwath says MY QUESTION THIS MORNING IS
FOR THE PREMIER, SPEAKER.
LAST WEEK IN THE LEGISLATURE,
THE PREMIER RESPONDED TO
CONCERNS FOR MAYOR JOHN TORY
ABOUT CUTS TO PUBLIC HEALTH
BY SAYING THE MAYOR NEEDED
TO, QUOTE, WAKE UP, SMELL
THE COFFEE AND START DRIVING
EFFICIENCIES.
OVER THE WEEKEND WE LEARNED
THAT THE MAYORS AND REGIONAL
CHAIRS OF ONTARIO HAVE
JOINED MUNICIPAL LEADERS
REPRESENTING MILLIONS OF
ONTARIANS FROM PRESCOTT TO
NORTHWESTERN ONTARIO, TO
CALL FOR A REVERSEAL OF
THESE CUTS.
DOES THE PREMIER THINK OF
ALL THESE LEADERS ALSO NEED
TO WAKE UP AND SMELL THE
COFFEE?

[APPLAUSE]

The Speaker says QUESTION'S
TO THE PREMIER.

Premier Ford stands up. He's in his early fifties, clean-shaven, with short blond hair. He wears a gray suit, blue shirt, and striped gray tie.

The caption changes to "Honourable Doug Ford. PC. Premier."

He says THROUGH YOU, MR. SPEAKER.
THERE'S A LOT OF POLITICIANS
IN THE PROVINCE THAT NEED TO
WAKE UP AND SMELL THE COFFEE
AND STOP THE SPENDING AND
START BEING RESPONSIBLE WITH
TAXPAYERS' MONEY.
AND SEEING THE LEADER OF THE
OPPOSITION...

[APPLAUSE]

Ford says BECAUSE THERE'S NO FISCAL
RESPONSIBILITY.
I'LL TELL YOU, FIRST OF ALL
THE FIGURES THAT THE CITY
ARE THROWING OUT THERE IS
COMPLETELY, MR. SPEAKER,
INACCURATE THE.
100 percent INACCURATE.
THE DECISION TO ELIMINATE
ANY CHILD CARE SPACE IS A
RESPONSIBILITY OF THE CITY
OF TORONTO.
IT'S NOT THE RESPONSIBILITY
OF THE PROVINCE.
OUR CHANGES, OUR CHANGES
WHAT WE'RE ASKING FOR,
MR. SPEAKER, IS FOR THE CITY
TO FIND 5 percent SAVINGS IN
ADMINISTRATION ALONE.
THE ADMINISTRATION,
MR. SPEAKER, CAN YOU IMAGINE
30 MILLION DOLLARS ON JUST
ADMINISTRATION?
THAT IS ABSOLUTELY
RIDICULOUS.
30 MILLION DOLLARS.
THE AUDITOR.

The Speaker says RESPONSE.

Ford says THE AUDITOR
GENERAL FROM THE CITY OF
TORONTO SAID THERE'S WASTE
WHEN IT CAME TO CHILD CARE
AND THAT THEY CAN FIND
EFFICIENCIES ON THE
ADMINISTRATION COSTS.
MR. SPEAKER, OUR TOTAL
BUDGET IS 433 MILLION DOLLARS.
WE'RE GIVING THE CITY OF
TORONTO.
THANK YOU.

[APPLAUSE]

The Speaker says SUPPLEMENTARY.

Horwath says SPEAKER,
IN MY BOOKS WHAT'S
RIDICULOUS IS ASKING
MUNICIPALITIES TO CUT BACK
AFTER THEY ALREADY PASSED
THEIR BUDGETS OVER A MONTH
AGO.

[APPLAUSE]

Horwath says IT'S NOT JUST MUNICIPAL
LEADERS THAT ARE RAISING
CONCERNS, SPEAKER.
DOCTORS, NURSES, FRONT-LINE
HEALTH CARE WORKERS ARE ALL
MAKING IT CLEAR THAT CUTS TO
PUBLIC HEALTH UNITS WILL
MEAN MORE HALLWAY MEDICINE.
TO PUT IT IN THE WORDS OF
TWO EMERGENCY ROOM DOCTORS
JUST LAST WEEK AND I
QUOTE...
PREMIER DOUG FORD'S PUBLIC
HEALTH CUTS WILL MEAN MORE
PEOPLE ARE SICK.
MORE STRAIN ON THE LIMPING
E.R. SYSTEM AND MORE HALLWAY
MEDICINE FOR YOU AND YOUR
LOVED ONES.
IS THE PREMIER READY TO
ADMIT THESE CUTS WILL LEAVE
PEOPLE WAITING LONGER IN THE
EMERGENCY ROOM OR DOES HE
THINK THE FRONT-LINE MEDICAL
PROFESSIONALS SOUNDING ALARM
BELLS SHOULD JUST WAKE UP
AND SMELL THE COFFEE?

[APPLAUSE]

The Speaker says PREMIER?

Ford says MINISTER OF
HEALTH.

The Speaker says MINISTER OF
HEALTH AND LONG-TERM CARE.

The caption changes to "Honourable Christine Elliott. PC. Minister of Health and Long-Term Care."

Elliott is in her late fifties, with long blond hair. She wears a green blazer over a black dress.

She says THANK YOU VERY MUCH,
SPEAKER.
I THINK IT SHOULD BE NOTED
FIRST OF ALL THAT WE ARE
PUTTING 1.3 BILLION DOLLARS MORE
INTO OUR HEALTH CARE SYSTEM.
THAT'S GOING TO MAKE A BIG
DIFFERENCE IN ENDING HALLWAY
HEALTH CARE.
BUT TO SUGGEST THAT PUBLIC
HEALTH UNITS CAN'T FIND ANY
EFFICIENCIES AS WE'RE MAKING
THESE CHANGES OVER A FEW
YEARS, WITH RESPECT TO THE
CITY OF TORONTO THAT MAKES
ABSOLUTELY NO SENSE, AS THE
PREMIER HAS SAID.
IN FACT IN THE CITY OF
TORONTO THEY HAVE HAD
SURPLUSES IN THEIR PUBLIC
HEALTH ACCOUNTS OVER TEN
YEARS, AMOUNTING TO 52
MILLION DOLLARS.
SO TO SAY NOW THEY CAN'T
FIND A CENT IN SAVINGS, NO
ONE BELIEVES THAT.
WE ARE GOING TO MAKE THOSE
CHANGES TO MAKE SURE THAT
THOSE PROGRAMS, PROTECTING
WHAT MATTERS MOST, IS GOING
TO CONTINUE.
CHILD NUTRITION PROGRAMS ARE
GOING TO CONTINUE TO BE
PROVIDED FOR.
THE PROVINCE'S SHARE AND THE
MINISTRY OF CHILDREN,
COMMUNITY AND SOCIAL
SERVICES, VACCINATION
PROGRAMS ARE GOING TO
CONTINUE, ASSISTING CHILDREN
WITH SPECIAL NEEDS.
ALL OF THOSE PROGRAMS ARE
GOING TO CONTINUE BECAUSE
114 MILLION DOLLARS THAT THE CITY
OF TORONTO IS GOING TO GET
FROM THE.

The Speaker says RESPONSE.

Elliott says PROVINCE OF ONTARIO IS
MORE THAN ENOUGH TO PROVIDE
THOSE PROGRAMS.

[APPLAUSE]

The Speaker says FINAL SUPPLEMENTARY.

Horwath says WELL,
SPEAKER, TO SUGGEST WE'LL
ELIMINATE HALLWAY MEDICINE
WHILE NOT EVEN INCREASING
OUR HEALTH CARE BUDGETS TO
COVER OFF INFLATION, NOBODY,
NOBODY BELIEVES THAT,
SPEAKER.
THE PROBLEM FOR THE PREMIER
IS THAT, IN ORDER FOR THE
FORD GOVERNMENT TO BE RIGHT,
DOCTORS, THE ONTARIO MEDICAL
ASSOCIATION, ONTARIO NURSES'
ASSOCIATION, FRONT-LINE
MEDICAL WORKERS, CHIEF
MEDICAL OFFICERS OF HEALTH
AND MAYORS FROM ACROSS
ONTARIO, INCLUDING THE MAYOR
OF TORONTO, WHO USED TO LEAD
THE PREMIER'S PARTY, ALL
HAVE TO BE WRONG.
NO ONE BELIEVES THE PREMIER
WHEN HE SAYS HIS CUTS WON'T
IMPACT PUBLIC HEALTH, NO
ONE.
SO WILL THE PREMIER WAKE UP
AND SMELL THE COFFEE AND PUT
AN END TO THE HEALTH CARE
CUTS TODAY?

[APPLAUSE]

The Speaker says QUESTION'S
BEEN REFERRED TO THE
MINISTER OF HEALTH AND
LONG-TERM CARE.

Elliott says ONCE AGAIN IT NEEDS TO BE
POINTED OUT THERE IS AN
ADDITIONAL 1.3 BILLION DOLLARS GOING INTO HEALTH CARE.
IT IS GREATER THAN THE RATE
OF INFLATION.
IT IS GOING TO PROVIDE A
GREAT ASSISTANCE ACROSS THE
BOARD TO DOCTORS, NURSES,
HOSPITALS AND SO ON.
BUT I THINK SOME OF THE
INFORMATION THAT HAS BEEN
POINTED OUT ON THE CITY'S
SIDE IS INACCURATE.
THE CHANGES ARE FAR SMALLER
THAN WHAT HAS BEEN SUGGESTED
BY ONE TORONTO COUNCILLOR
AND I THINK IT'S REALLY
IMPORTANT FOR THE PEOPLE OF
ONTARIO TO UNDERSTAND THIS
IS AN INCREASE OVERALL IN
THE HEALTH CARE BUDGET.
THE CHANGES THAT WE ARE
BRINGING IN WITH RESPECT TO
PUBLIC HEALTH ARE MANAGEABLE
BY THE PUBLIC HEALTH UNITS
AND ARE BEING BROUGHT IN
OVER THREE YEARS.
IT NEEDS TO BE DONE OVER
THAT PERIOD OF TIME TO MAKE
SURE THAT THEY CAN AMEND,
FIND THEIR PRIORITIES AND
MAKE SURE THAT THEY PUT
THEIR MONEY INTO.

The Speaker says RESPONSE.

Elliott says ACTUAL PUBLIC HEALTH
PRIORITIES.
THAT'S WHAT WE WANT TO DO.
THAT'S WHAT WE'RE EXPECTED
TO DO ON THIS SIDE OF THE
HOUSE, AND WE'RE SIMPLY
ASKING PUBLIC HEALTH UNITS
TO DOT SAME.

[APPLAUSE]

The Speaker says NEXT QUESTION.
THE LEADER OF THE OPPOSITION.

Horwath says MY NEXT QUESTION'S ALSO
FOR THE PREMIER, SPEAKER.
WHEN YOU DON'T FUND TO COVER
OFF INFLATION, THAT MEANS
SERIOUS CUTS OF THAT'S WHAT
THIS PROVINCE IS PUTTING...
WHAT THIS GOVERNMENT'S
PUTTING THIS PROVINCE
THROUGH.
AND PEOPLE ARE GOING TO PAY
THE PRICE IN THEIR REDUCED
ACCESS TO HEALTH SERVICES.
THAT'S WHAT'S HAPPENING.
BUT IN ANOTHER STEALTH CUT
FROM THE FORD GOVERNMENT
BUDGET FAMILIES ARE NOW
LEARNING CHILD CARE COSTS
ARE ABOUT TO SKYROCKET.
CITY OF TORONTO REPORTS THAT
FORD GOVERNMENT CUTS ARE
PUTTING CHILD CARE SPACES
AND SUBSIDIES AT RISK, AND
FOR SOME FAMILIES LOSING
THESE SUBSIDIES COULD MEAN
CHILD CARE COSTS SHOOTING
FROM 3,600 A YEAR UP TO
23,000 A YEAR.
DOES THE PREMIER THINK IT'S
FAIR TO HIT FAMILIES WITH A
19,400 HIKE IN THE COST OF
CHILD CARE?

The Speaker says THE
QUESTION'S TO THE PREMIER.

Ford says WELL,
THROUGH YOU, MR. SPEAKER, WE
HAVE A GREAT CHILD CARE
PROGRAM.
MUCH, MUCH BETTER THAN THE
PREVIOUS ADMINISTRATION.

[APPLAUSE]

Ford says BY THE WAY, I HAD A GOOD
CHAT.
MET WITH THE MAYOR ON
THURSDAY.
HAD A GOOD CHAT WITH HIM.
HE UNDERSTANDS THERE HAS TO
BE EFFICIENCIES TO BE FOUND.
BUT WHAT I'M NOT HEARING
FROM THE CITY OF TORONTO, AS
THEY'RE SO DESPERATE FOR
CHILD CARE SPACES, LAST YEAR
16 percent OF TORONTO'S CHILD CARE
SPACES WERE LEFT SITTING
EMPTY.
EMPTY.
16 percent WERE BEING JUST EMPTY.
IN DESPERATE NEED FOR CHILD
CARE.

The Speaker says ORDER.

Ford says THROUGH THE
CARE TAX CREDIT, FAMILIES
WILL RECEIVE 6,000.

[APPLAUSE]

Ford says THAT'S 6,000 PER CHILD, PER
CHILD UNDER 7.

The Speaker says RESPONSE.

Ford says 3,750 FROM
A CHILD OVER 7 TO 16 YEARS
OF AGE, AND THEN 8,250 FOR
A CHILD WITH A SEVERE
DISABILITY AND THEY HAVE
THEIR CHOICE.
BEFORE THEY DIDN'T HAVE A
CHOICE.
NOW THEY HAVE A CHOICE WHO'S
GOING TO TAKE CARE OF THEIR
CHILDREN.

[APPLAUSE]

The Speaker says THANK YOU.
SUPPLEMENTARY QUESTION.

Horwath says THIS
PREMIER'S SO OUT OF TOUCH
THAT HE DOESN'T REALIZE
PEOPLE CAN'T AFFORD CHILD
CARE AT 24,000 A YEAR.
6,000 BUCKS IS NOT GOING TO
MAKE CHILD CARE AFFORDABLE.

[APPLAUSE]

Horwath says SPEAKER...

[APPLAUSE]

Horwath says HERE'S WHAT TORONTO'S DEPUTY
MAYOR MICHAEL THOMPSON SAID
WHO'S BEEN AN ALLY TO THE
PREMIER IN THE PAST.
HE SPOKE OUT ON FRIDAY ON
THE NEED FOR THE GOVERNMENT
TO RECONSIDER THESE CUTS.
HE WAS JOINED AT HIS PRESS
CONFERENCE BY ONE WORKING
MOTHER WHO RELIES ON CHILD
CARE SUPPORTS PROVIDED BOY
THE CITY OF TORONTO.
AND SHE SAID THIS...
IF THEY CUT THE SUBSIDY,
WHAT SHOULD I DO?
SHOULD I QUIT MY JOB, SHE
ASKS.
DOES THE PREMIER HAVE AN
ANSWER FOR HER?

[APPLAUSE]

The Speaker says PREMIER?

Ford says MINISTER OF EDUCATION.

The Speaker says REFERRED TO
THE MINISTER OF EDUCATION.

The caption changes to "Honourable Lisa M. Thompson. PC. Minister of Education."

Thompson is in her forties, with chin-length wavy blond hair. She wears glasses, a dark green blazer and a black shirt.

She says THANK YOU VERY MUCH,
MR. SPEAKER.

[APPLAUSE]

Thompson says TODAY AND CONTINUE ON THIS
DISCUSSION BECAUSE WE HAVE
TO GET ALL THE FACTS OUT ON
THE TABLE.
YOU KNOW, WE KNOW FOR A FACT
THAT THE CITY-RUN DAY CARE
CENTRES ARE 30 percent HIGH NER
COSTS THAN ANY OTHER CENTRES
ACROSS THIS PROVINCE.
AND YOU KNOW EVEN THE CITY'S
OWN AUDITOR...

The Speaker says ORDER.

Thompson says EVEN THE CITY'S OWN
AUDITOR GENERAL HAS RAISED
WARNING FLAGS ABOUT THE
MANNER IN WHICH THE CITY OF
TORONTO HAS MANAGED AND
ADMINISTERED THEIR DAY CARE
CENTRES.
FOR INSTANCE, THEY HAVE CITY
ADMINISTRATORS GO AROUND AND
MONITOR THINGS, LIKE HOW
MUCH GREENERY IS ON TREES.
THEY ALSO HAVE CITY
ADMINISTRATORS GO AROUND TO
MAKE SURE THE SEASONAL
DECORATIONS ARE IN PLACE IN
DAY CARES.
HONESTLY, SPEAKER.
IS THAT THE BEST USE OF
TAXPAYER DOLLARS?

The Speaker says RESPONSE.

Interjection: THE
Auditor GENERAL SAID THAT.

Thompson says CAN FIND 5 percent IN
ADMINISTRATION EFFICIENCIES,
BECAUSE WE NEED TO GET IT
RIGHT FOR THE FAMILIES.
AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO THE
CITY OF TORONTO WORKING WITH
US TO MAKE SURE THIS HAPPENS.

Interjection: HEAR, HEAR!

[APPLAUSE]

The Speaker says FINAL SUPPLEMENTARY.

Horwath says WELL,
SPEAKER I DON'T KNOW AND I
HAVE NOT MET A SINGLE PARENT
IN THIS PROVINCE WHO WANTS
THEIR KID PLAYING ON
CONCRETE INSTEAD OF GRASS.

Interjection: THAT'S
RIGHT.

[APPLAUSE]

Horwath says BUT ONCE
AGAIN THE PREMIER IS
INSISTING THAT THERE'S
NOTHING TO SEE HERE WHILE
FAMILIES SEE SERVICES THAT
THEY RELY ON VANISH BEFORE
THEIR EYES.
THE PREMIER'S RECKLESS CUTS
COULD LEAVE A FAMILY EARNING
45,000 A YEAR, EARNING
45,000 A YEAR WITH A
23,000-A-YEAR CHILD CARE
BILL.
THIS IS WRONG, SPEAKER,
ABSOLUTELY WRONG.
THE DEPUTY MAYOR OF TORONTO
HAS CALLED ON THE PREMIER TO
DISCUSS THESE PLANS WITH
MUNICIPAL LEADERS BEFORE
IMPOSING THEM WITH NO IDEA
OF THE CONSEQUENCES YET
AGAIN.
WILL THE PREMIER DO THAT?

[APPLAUSE]

The Speaker says MINISTER OF
EDUCATION.

Thompson says SPEAKER, ALL I CAN SAY IS
THE MEMBERS OPPOSITE AND THE LEADER WOULD BE WELL ADVISED
TO STOP FEAR MONGERING
BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE STEPPING
UP.
IN FACT I WANT TO SHARE THIS
ONE QUOTE.
THE REACTION BY SOME
MUNICIPAL OFFICIALS HAVE
BEEN TOTALLY OVER THE TOP,
SAYS ANDREA HANON, EXECUTIVE
DIRECTOR OF THE ASSOCIATION
OF DAY CARE OPERATORS OF
ONTARIO.
IT'S LIKE THEY WANT FAMILIES
TO START PANICKING.
THE FACT OF THE MATTER IS
THERE HAS BEEN A LOT OF
WASTE IN THE SYSTEM FOR A
VERY, VERY LONG TIME.
THE MINISTER OF EDUCATION IS
QUITE RIGHT WHEN SHE SAYS THAT CHANGES DON'T NEED TO
RESULT IN SERVICE CUTS TO
ONTARIO FAMILIES.
SO, SPEAKER, AGAIN, WE WANT
TO WORK WITH THE CITY,
BECAUSE WE FEEL THERE IS A
LOT OF ROOM TO FIND SOME
EFFICIENCIES.
5 percent EFFICIENCIES BECAUSE
GUESS WHAT?
WE WANT THE DOLLARS TO BE
GOING WHERE THEY'RE NEEDED
MOST.
THAT'S TO FAMILIES THAT HAVE
CHILDREN THAT NEED TO BE IN
DAY CARE.

The Speaker says RESPONSE.

Thompson says AND IT'S SHAMEFUL THAT
THEY'VE LEFT, LAST YEAR, 16 percent
VACANCIES ON THE TABLE.
THAT IS DISGUSTING.
THE CITY OF TORONTO NEEDS TO
PULL UP THEIR SOCKS.

[APPLAUSE]

The Speaker says NEXT QUESTION.
AGAIN THE LEADER OF THE
OPPOSITION.

Horwath says THANK YOU,
SPEAKER.
MY NEXT QUESTION'S TO THE
PREMIER.
BUT I WOULD SAY THAT THIS
GOVERNMENT NEEDS TO GET A
REALITY CHECK.
BECAUSE PEOPLE CANNOT AFFORD
CHILD CARE.
THAT'S WHY SPACES ARE LEFT
EMPTY.

[APPLAUSE]

Horwath says ANYWAYS, THIS WEEKEND THE
PREMIER AND I BOTH HAD THE
OPPORTUNITY TO SEE FIRST
HAND THE HEARTBREAKING
DEVASTATION CAUSED BY
FLOODING IN COMMUNITIES
ACROSS ONTARIO.
THE PREMIER HAS ADMITTED
CLIMATE CHANGE IS REAL.
HE ADMITS THAT FLOODS AREN'T
HAPPENING ONCE IN A CENTURY,
THAT THEY'RE HAPPENING ONCE
A YEAR.
IF THE PREMIER TRULY
BELIEVES THAT, SPEAKER, AND
IT'S MORE VITAL THAN EVER TO
PROTECT COMMUNITY AGAINST
FLOODING, THEN WHY DOES THE
GOVERNMENT SLASH FUNDING FOR
CONSERVATION AUTHORITIES FOR
FLOOD MANAGEMENT AUTHORITIES
BY HALF?

[APPLAUSE]

The Speaker says QUESTION'S
TO THE PREMIER.

Ford says MINISTER OF
ENVIRONMENT.

The Speaker says REFERRED TO
THE MINISTER OF THE
ENVIRONMENT, CONSERVATION
AND PARKS.

The caption changes to "Honourable Rod Phillips. PC. Minister of the Environment, Conservation and Parks."

Phillips is in his early fifties, clean-shaven, with short gray hair. He wears a black suit, white shirt and green tie.

He says SO, MR. SPEAKER, THROUGH
THE MEMBER AND THANK YOU FOR
THE QUESTION.
I COMMEND HER AS WELL AS THE
PREMIER AS WELL AS MANY
OTHERS FOR VISITING THE
SITES OF FLOODING.
I WAS IN OTTAWA MYSELF THIS
WEEKEND VISITING WITH...
WITH FAMILIES THAT ARE
AFFECTED.
BUT, MR. SPEAKER, OUR
MADE-IN-ONTARIO ENVIRONMENT
PLAN TALKS SPECIFICALLY
ABOUT THESE ISSUES.
WE PUT THE FOCUS, YES, ON
MITIGATION, YES ON DEALING
WITH GREENHOUSE GASES, BUT
WE ALSO PUT THE FOCUS ON
MAKING SURE THAT OUR
COMMUNITIES ARE PREPARED.
IN THE CASE OF MUSKOKA
THAT'S WHY WE INTRODUCED THE
MUSKOKA WATERSHED MANAGEMENT
INITIATIVE, AN INITIATIVE
THAT WILL BRING 5 MILLION GOVERNMENT DOLLARS AND 5
MILLION OTHER DOLLARS FROM
THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT AND
ELSEWHERE TO SUPPORT
UNDERSTANDING THE WATERSHEDS
AND MAKING SURE THAT WE
PROTECT FAMILIES.
THAT'S WHY WE TALK IN OUR
MADE-IN-ONTARIO ENVIRONMENT
PLAN ABOUT THE BUILDING CODE
AND MODERNIZING THE BUILDING
CODE, TO MAKE SURE THAT
WE'RE PROTECTING THE
BUILDINGS AND CRITICAL
INFRASTRUCTURE AND THE HOMES
AGAINST IT.
SO, MR. SPEAKER, THIS IS OUR
FOCUS MUCH IT'S A FOCUS WHEN
THE EMERGENCY'S HAG.
THAT'S WHY THE PREMIER WAS
THERE, AND IT'S A FOCUS
GOING FORWARD.

[APPLAUSE]

The Speaker says THANK YOU.
SUPPLEMENTARY.

Horwath says SPEAKER, THE FORD
GOVERNMENT NOT JUST CUTTING
FLOOD MANAGEMENT PROGRAMS.
THEY SCRAPPED THE 50 MILLION TREE PROJECT THAT AMONG
OTHER THINGS MITIGATED FLOOD
RISK WHILE FIGHTING CLIMATE
CHANGE.
THEY SCRAPPED MOST OF THE
PROVINCE CLIMATE PROGRAM.
THEY FIRED THE ENVIRONMENTAL
COMMISSIONER AND THEY'RE
LEAVING CASH STRAPPED
MUNICIPALITIES SCRAMBLING TO
DEAL WITH THE MESS.
HOW ACCOUNT PREMIER LOOK IN
THE EYES OF THOSE FAMILIES
DEVASTATED BOY FLOODING AND
TURN AROUND AND CUT PROGRAMS
DESIGNED TO PROTECT THOSE
VERY PEOPLE?

[APPLAUSE]

The Speaker says MEMBERS
PLEASE TAKE THEIR SEATS.
THE QUESTION'S BEEN REFERRED
TO THE MINISTER OF THE
ENVIRONMENT CONSERVATION AND
PARKS.

Phillips says TO THE MINISTER OF
NATURAL RESOURCES.

The caption changes to "Honourable John Yakabuski. PC. Minister of Natural Resources and Forestry."

Yakabuski is in his early sixties, clean-shaven and balding. He wears a gray suit, blue shirt, and gray tie.

He says THANK YOU VERY MUCH,
SPEAKER.
THE LEADER OF THE OPPOSITION
HAS COVERED AN AWFUL LOT OF
GROUND THERE.
I'M NOT SURE WHAT SHE
SPECIFICALLY WANTS TO TALK
ABOUT.
WE CAN TALK ABOUT THE 50
MILLION TREE PROGRAM, WHICH
QUITE FRANKLY.

The Speaker says ORDER.

Yakabuski says MR. SPEAKER, I CAN TELL
YOU ACROSS THE PROVINCE OF
ONTARIO THE FOREST INDUSTRY
PLANTS 68 MILLION TREES ON
AVERAGE EVERY YEAR.
AND WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH
FOREST ONTARIO TO ENSURE
THAT THE TREE PLANTING THAT
IS DESIGNED AND SCHEDULED
FOR THIS YEAR WILL GO ON AS
PLANNED.
BUT, SPEAKER, WE WILL LEFT
FROM THE PREVIOUS GOVERNMENT
A 15 BILLION DOLLAR DEFICIT.
AND WE WERE ELECTED ON THE
MANDATE TO CLEAN UP THE
LIBERALS' MESS THAT THEY
LEFT US.
SO WE HAVE TO MAKE CHOICES.
WE HAVE ENSURED OUR FORESTRY
INDUSTRY, WHICH IS A BEDROCK
INDUSTRY IN THIS PROVINCE,
WILL BE PROPERLY SUPPORTED
BY ENSURING THE FOREST
ACCESS ROAD PROGRAM WILL BE
FUNDED FOR THIS YEAR.

The Speaker says RESPONSE.

Yakabuski says SAID THAT WAS A NUMBER-ONE
PRIORITY.
WHAT I SAY TO THE MEMBER
OPPOSITE, IF YOU DON'T... IF
YOU JUST RECALL THAT WE WERE
LEFT A MESS AND WE'RE GOING
TO CLEAN UP THAT MESS.

[APPLAUSE]

The Speaker says NEXT question. The member for Peterborough-Kawartha.

The caption changes to "Dave Smith. PC. Peterborough-Kawartha."

Smith is in his forties, clean-shaven, with short gray hair. He wears a dark blue suit, blue shirt, and striped gray tie.

He says THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER.

[APPLAUSE]

Smith says MY QUESTION IS FOR EXCELLENT,
CARING AND COMPASSIONATE
PREMIER.
OVER THE PAST WEEK, WE'VE
SEEN THE IMPACT OF FLOODING
IN COMMUNITIES ACROSS
ONTARIO AND IT'S CONTINUING
IN MANY AREAS.
I WANT TO THANK ALL THE
VOLUNTEERS, FIRST RESPONDERS
AND THE CANADIAN ARMED
FORCES FOR THEIR HARD WORK
PROTECTING PEOPLE AND
PROPERTY.
WATER LEVELS HAVE APPEARED
TO CREST IN MANY AREAS AND
ARE STARTING TO GO DOWN BUT
THERE'S STILL PLENTY OF WORK
THAT LIES AHEAD.
THE PREMIER HAS VISITED MANY
OF OUR COMMUNITIES THAT HAVE
EXPERIENCED FLOODING.
MUSKOKA ON FRIDAY TO SEE THE
IMPACTS FLOODS HAVE HAD
THERE.
CAN THE PREMIER INFORM THE
HOUSE ON WHAT STEPS WE'RE
TAKING TO PREPARE FOR THE
FUTURE?

The Speaker says QUESTION TO
THE PREMIER.

Ford says THROUGH YOU,
MR. SPEAKER.
I WANT TO THANK THE MEMBER
FROM PETERBOROUGH-KAWARTHA
FOR THE GREAT QUESTION.
WHAT A GREAT REPRESENTATIVE
HE S.I'VE BEEN IN UP... BEEN
UP IN PETERBOROUGH.
HE'S AN ALL-STAR UP IN
PETERBOROUGH.

[APPLAUSE]

Ford says MR. SPEAKER, I HAD AN
OPPORTUNITY TO GO BACK UP
INTO THE BRACE BRIDGE AREA
AND VISIT GRAYDON SMITH, THE
MAYOR OF BRACEBRIDGE, ALSO
MAYOR OF MUSKOKA LAKES WAS
THERE AS WELL.
HAD A GREAT CONVERSATION.
AND WE'VE AGREED WE'RE
PUTTING A TASK FORCE
TOGETHER TO FIND OUT AND
SUPPORT THE LOW PEOPLE FIRST
OF ALL.
BUT HOW THIS STARTS.
AND IT STARTS UP BY
HUNTSVILLE.
THE WATER FLOWS DOWN.
THERE'S THREE CATCH BASINS
BE IT LAKE MUSKOKA, ROSSEAU
AND LAKE JOE AND THERE'S
JUST NOT ENOUGH AREA IN
THOSE LAKES TO HOLD ONTO THE
WATER THAT'S FLOWING.

The Speaker says RESPONSE.

Ford says WE'RE GOING
TO COME UP WITH A PLAN WE
CAN MAKE SURE WE CAN CONTROL
THE WATER SYSTEM COMING DOWN
NORTH OF HUNTSVILLE, BUT
IT'S GOING TO BE A GREAT
PLAN BECAUSE WE'RE GETTING
THE COMMUNITY INVOLVED.
WE'RE GETTING EXPERTS
INVOLVED FROM MINISTER OF
ENVIRONMENT, MINISTER OF
NATURAL RESOURCES, LOCAL
PEOPLE, ESPECIALLY OUR GREAT
M.P.P. NORM MILLER.

[APPLAUSE]

The Speaker says THANK YOU.
THANK YOU.
SUPPLEMENTARY QUESTION.

Smith says THROUGH YOU, MR. SPEAKER,
I'D LIKE TO THANK THE
PREMIER FOR THAT ANSWER.
I'D ALSO LIKE TO REMIND
EVERYONE TO REMAIN CAUTIOUS
AND AVOID FAST-FLOWING
CREEKS AND RIVERS.
THE LAST THING WE WANT TO
SEE RIGHT NOW IS SOMEONE
FLOATING THEIR FANNY DOWN
THE GANI.
I KNOW THE PEOPLE BACK HOME
IN THE RIDING OF
PETERBOROUGH-KAWARTHA
APPRECIATE A PREMIER THEY
KNOW THEY CAN COUNT ON TO
TAKE ACTION IN A TIME OF
NEED.
IT'S BEEN GREAT TO SEE THE
PREMIER TAKING THIS ISSUE
SERIOUSLY AND COMMITTING TO
USE ALL THE TOOLS AT OUR
GOVERNMENT'S DISPOSAL TO
HELP ONTARIANS.
CAN THE PREMIER UPDATE THE
HOUSE ON HIS MEETINGS WITH
THE MAYORS OF BRACEBRIDGE
AND THE TOWNSHIP OF MUSKOKA
LAKES AND WHAT OUR
GOVERNMENT WILL BE DOING TO
HELP DEAL WITH FLOODING IN
THE FUTURE?

[APPLAUSE]

The Speaker says AGAIN TO THE
PREMIER.

Ford says THROUGH
YOU, MR. SPEAKER.
AGAIN I WANT TO THANK THE MEMBER FOR HIS QUESTION.
WHEN I WENT OUT THERE, ONE
OF THE OTHER AREAS THAT I
VISITED WAS ACTUALLY THE
ONTARIO CHAMBER OF COMMERCE.
ONTARIO CHAMBERS BER OF
COMMERCE TAKING CARE OF
COMMERCE ACROSS ONTARIO.
IT WAS JUST OVER THE TOP.
I HAD A STANDING OVATION
WHEN I WALKED IN.
AFTER A SPEECH ANOTHER
STANDING OVATION.
PEOPLE WERE SO EXCITED.
SMALL BUSINESS OWNERS,
MEDIUM BUSINESS OWNERS,
LARGE BUSINESS OWNERS, THEY
FINALLY SEE THIS PROVINCE
TURNING THE CORNER.
I DID HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY
AFTER THAT MEETING ACTUALLY
TO SIT DOWN WITH THE MAYOR
OF MUSKOKA LAKES AND MEET
THE MAYOR OF BRACEBRIDGE AS
WELL, WITH OUR LOCAL M.P.P.
WE SAT DOWN AND WE'VE AGREED
TO COME UP WITH A SOLUTION.
THE FIRST SOLUTION WAS THE
MINISTER OF ENVIRONMENT
ALLOCATED 5 MILLION DOLLARS.
THAT'S 5 MILLION DOLLARS TO
PROTECT.

The Speaker says RESPONSE.

Ford says WATERSHED
AND THAT'S JUST THE
BEGINNING, MR. SPEAKER.
WE'VE PUT OUR MONEY WHERE
OUR MOUTH IS.
WE'RE UP IN MUSKOKA
SUPPORTING THE PEOPLE.
THERE ARE SO MANY OTHER
AREAS WE HAVEN'T SEEN
TOUCHED ON HOW WE'RE
SUPPORTING THE PEOPLE
FLOODED OUT BE IT IN OTTAWA
OR THE MUSKOKAS.

[APPLAUSE]

The Speaker says NEXT question. The member for Essex.

The caption changes to "Taras Natyshak. NDP. Essex."

Natyshak is in his late thirties, clean-shaven, with short brown hair. He wears a gray suit, white shirt, and striped gray tie.

He says GOOD MORNING, SPEAKER.
THANK YOU.
MY QUESTION'S FOR THE
PREMIER.
SPEAKER, THE ONTARIO CHAMBER
OF COMMERCE CALLING ON THE
FORD GOVERNMENT TO BACK AWAY
FROM THEIR SCHEME TO LEF AYE
10,000 A DAY FINE ON EVERY
GAS STATION THAT THE REFUSES
TO DISPLAY THEIR PARTISAN
STICKERS.
FORMER P.C. CANDIDATE ROCCO
ROSSI, THE STICKER SCHEME IS
UNNECESSARY RED TAPE AND
INCREASED COST TO BUSINESS
AND A VIOLATION OF BUSINESS
OWNERS' RIGHTS AND... IS
THIS PREMIER FINALLY READY
TO THROW IN THE TOWEL ON
THIS POORLY THOUGHT OUT
SCHEME?

The Speaker says QUESTION'S
TO THE PREMIER.

Ford says MINISTER OF
ENVIRONMENT... I'M SORRY.
MINISTER OF ENERGY, I APOLOGIZE.

The Speaker says REFERRED TO
THE MINISTER OF ENERGY.

[APPLAUSE]

The caption changes to "Honourable Greg Rickford. PC. Minister of Energy, Northern Development and Mines."

Rickford is in his early fifties, clean-shaven, with short gray hair. He wears a light gray suit, white shirt, and blue plaid tie.

He says THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER.
WE ARE COMMITTED TO MAKING
SURE THAT EVERY PERSON IN
ONTARIO STARTS TO UNDERSTAND
HOW MUCH THIS JOB-KILLING
REGRESSIVE CARBON TAX COSTS.
IT'S NOT JUST AT THE PUMPS.
STICKERS ON ORDINARY
PRODUCTS, SERVICES AND
PROGRAMS ACROSS THIS
PROVINCE ARE SOON IF NOT
ALREADY GOING TO REFLECT,
MR. SPEAKER, HOW MUCH THIS
IS COSTING.
YOU KNOW, IN THE RIDING OF
KIIWETINOONG THERE'S A
SAWMILL UP THERE.
THEY.TABULATIONS FROM THE
BEGINNING OF APRIL UNTIL THE
END OF 2019.
THE CARBON TAX ALONE IS
GOING TO COST 1.2 MILLION DOLLARS.
THAT'S JUST THE CARBON TAX.
NOW THEY CUT GARDEN SHEDS,
HOMES YOU NAME IT,
MR. SPEAKER.
THAT COST IS GOING TO BE
TRANSLATED ON THE CONSUMER.
IT'S NOT GOING TO BE
REFLECTED.

The Speaker says RESPONSE.

Rickford says FEDERAL GOVERNMENT
SPENDING MILLIONS OF DOLLARS TO TELL CANADIANS THEY GET
BACK AS A REBATE.
MR. SPEAKER, WE WILL USE
EVERY TOOL AT OUR DISPOSAL
TO STAND UP AND MAKE SURE
ONTARIO KNOWS HOW MUCH...

[APPLAUSE]

The Speaker says SUPPLEMENTARY.

Natyshak says THANK YOU VERY MUCH,
SPEAKER.
THE MINISTER'S ANSWERS
SUGGEST HE'S NOT ONLY HAPPY
TO STICK TO THE LIBERALS.
HE'S HAPPY TO STICK IT TO
SMALL BUSINESS OWNERS AND
TAXPAYERS IN THE PROVINCE OF
ONTARIO, MR. SPEAKER.

[APPLAUSE]

The Speaker says ORDER.

Natyshak says SPEAKER YOU KNOW WHAT?
IT TAKES A LOT OF WORK...

The Speaker says GOVERNMENT
HOUSE LEADER, COME TO ORDER.
GOVERNMENT HOUSE LEADER,
COME TO ORDER.
MEMBER FOR ESSEX.

Natyshak says IT TAKES A LOT OF WORK TO
COME UP WITH AN IDEA SO BAD
THAT IT UNITES EVERYBODY
FROM GREENPEACE TO THE
CHAMBER OF COMMERCE.

[APPLAUSE]

Natyshak UNBELIEVABLE.
BUT, SPEAKER, WE LEAVE IT TO
THIS PREMIER TO SUCCEED IN
THAT ENDEAVOUR.
THE PREMIER CAN'T FIND
FUNDING FOR SCHOOLS AND
HEALTH CARE IN THE MIDST OF
RECORD FUNDING, CUTS TO
FUNDING, HE'S CUT FUNDING
FOR FLOOD MANAGEMENT BUT
HE'S READY TO SPEND MILLIONS
OF DOLLARS FINING BUSINESS
OWNERS 10,000 A DAY FOR
FAILING TO DISPLAY HIS
CAMPAIGN ADVERTISING.
HOW MANY PEOPLE HAVE TO TELL
THIS PREMIER TO ABANDON THIS
SCHEME BEFORE HE ADMITS IT'S
WRONG?

[APPLAUSE]

The Speaker says MEMBERS TAKE
YOUR SEATS.
MINISTER OF ENERGY, NORTHERN
DEVELOPMENT AND MINES.

Rickford says THE MEMBER OPPOSITE IS
LOOKING FOR POLITICAL
PARTIES FOR US TO STICK IT
TO.
WE'LL STICK TO THE N.D.P.,
MR. SPEAKER, BECAUSE IT
ISN'T JUST ABOUT BOARD FOOT
THAT'S BEING CUT.
IT'S ABOUT THOSE FAMILY
VEHICLES PRODUCED IN ESSEX,
MR. SPEAKER.
WE KNOW THOSE FAMILIES WHO
ARE BUYING THOSE VEHICLES
ARE COMING TO THE GAS PUMPS
AND SEEING HOW MUCH MORE
THEY'RE PAYING, MR. SPEAKER.
WHEN THEY GO TO THE GROCERY
STORE, HOW MUCH MORE
VEGETABLES.

The Speaker says OPPOSITION,
COME TO ORDER.

Rickford says MR. SPEAKER.
HOW MUCH MORE IT'S I COSTING
AT THE HARDWARE STORE FOR
THESE PRODUCTS TO BE
PRODUCED, MR. SPEAKER.
WE WILL NOT LOSE AN
OPPORTUNITY, MR. SPEAKER, TO
MAKE SURE THAT THE PEOPLE OF
ONTARIO UNDERSTAND HOW MUCH
THIS JOB-KILLING REGRESSIVE
CARBON TAX IS COSTING THEM,
MR. SPEAKER, PERIOD.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

[APPLAUSE]

The Speaker says THE NEXT question. The member for Burlington.

[APPLAUSE]

The caption changes to "Jane McKenna. PC. Burlington."

McKenna is in her forties, with short chestnut hair. She wears a black blazer over a printed blue dress.

She says THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER.
MY QUESTION'S FOR THE
MINISTER OF MUNICIPAL
AFFAIRS AND HOUSING.
SPEAKER, ON THIS SIDE OF THE
HOUSE, THE LIBERALS, HEAVILY
SUPPORTED BY THE N.D.P.,
LEFT ONTARIO IN A HOUSING
CRISIS.
OUR MOST VULNERABLE WERE
LEFT WITH BROKEN UNLIVABLE
COMMUNITY HOUSING STOCK THAT
WAS ONLY GETTING WORSE.
INDIVIDUALS WERE PENALIZED
FOR TRYING TO GO TO SCHOOL
AND BECOME SELF-SUFFICIENT.
BUT IN APRIL OUR GOVERNMENT
ANNOUNCED THE PATH FORWARD
FOR COMMUNITY HOUSING IN
ONTARIO.
THE MINISTER PROVIDED
TANGIBLE SOLUTIONS THAT
PROTECTED THE MOST
VULNERABLE FROM CRIMINAL
ACTIVITY, CLEAR THE WAIT
LIST FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING
AND SIMPLIFY THE OVERLY
COMPLEX
RENT-GEARED-TO-INCOME RULE.
MR. SPEAKER, ACCOUNT
MINISTER PLEASE EXPLAIN TO
THIS HOUSE WHAT REAL CHANGE
LOOKS LIKE FOR COMMUNITY
HOUSING IN ONTARIO?

[APPLAUSE]

The Speaker says MINISTER OF
MUNICIPAL AFFAIRS AND
HOUSING.

The caption changes to "Honourable Steve Clark. PC. Minister of Municipal Affairs and Housing."

Clark is in his fifties, clean-shaven and bald. He wears rounded glasses, a black suit, white shirt and checked green tie.

He says THANKS, SPEAKER.
I WANT TO THANK THE MEMBER
FOR BURLINGTON, WHO HAS
CONTINUED TO WORK HARD FOR
HER CONSTITUENTS ON THIS
FILE.
SPEAKER, THE MEMBER'S RIGHT.
INSTEAD OF PROVIDING
SOLUTIONS, THE PREVIOUS
LIBERAL GOVERNMENT,
SUPPORTED BY THE N.D.P.,
REALLY PUT US ON THE HOOK
NOT ONLY FOR A 15 BILLION DOLLAR DEFICIT BUT ALSO AN
INEFFICIENT HOUSING SYSTEM
THAT REALLY DIDN'T MEET
PEOPLE'S NEEDS.
ABOUT A MONTH AGO, SPEAKER,
I WAS PLEASED TO ANNOUNCE
OUR GOVERNMENT'S COMMUNITY
HOUSING RENEWAL STRATEGY.
WE'RE INVESTING OVER 1
BILLION DOLLARS IN 2019-2020 ALONE
TO BOTH SUSTAIN, REPAIR AND
GROW ONTARIO'S COMMUNITY
HOUSING SYSTEM.
WE'RE GOING TO BE DOING A
NUMBER OF THINGS, AS THE MEMBER MENTIONED.
WE'RE GOING TO MAKE IT
EASIER TO BOTH PREDICT AND
CALCULATE RENT FOR TENANTS
AND FOR LANDLORDS.
WE'RE GOING TO ENSURE THAT
INDIVIDUALS...

The Speaker says RESPONSE.

Clark says ARE SEEKING OPPORTUNITIES
TO GO TO WORK OR GO TO
SCHOOL AREN'T PENALIZED BY
THE SYSTEM.
WE'RE GOING TO BE DOING A
NUMBER OF INITIATIVES THAT
MAKES THE SYSTEM MORE
EFFECTIVE AND MORE
EFFICIENT.
BUT MOST IMPORTANTLY,
SPEAKER, WE NEED TO MEET
PEOPLE'S NEEDS.
THAT'S THE NUMBER ONE.

[APPLAUSE]

The Speaker says THANK YOU.
SUPPLEMENTARY.

McKenna says THANK YOU, SPEAKER.
THANK YOU FOR THE MINISTER
BECAUSE YOU'RE DEFINITELY
FINDING THE NEED FOR THE
PEOPLE IN THE MOST
VULNERABLE AND THEY HAVE
REACHED OUT OVER AND OVER
AGAIN.

[APPLAUSE]

McKenna says SPEAKER, THIS MINISTER HAS
BEEN INCREDIBLY BUSY THESE
PAST FEW WEEKS.
HE HAS INTRODUCED OUR
COMMUNITY HOUSING RENEWAL
STRATEGY A MONTH AGO.
LAST WEEK HE ANNOUNCED A
COMPREHENSIVE PLAN TO
INCREASE MARKET SUPPLY
ACROSS ONTARIO SO THAT
INDIVIDUALS AND FAMILIES CAN
FIND THAT HOME THAT FITS
THEIR LIFE AND THEIR BUDGET.
THIS PLAN PROVIDES HOPE TO
SO MANY NEW COUPLES WHO ARE
LOOKING TO BUY THEIR FIRST
HOME OR THE FAMILIES WHO
NEED MORE THAN 700 SQUARE
FEET.
AND YOUNG ADULTS WHO NEED A
PLACE TO RENT NEAR WORK.
MR. SPEAKER, CAN THE
MINISTER PLEASE HIGHLIGHT
THIS PLAN AND LEGISLATION
THAT BRINGS MORE HOMES AND
MORE CHOICES TO THE PEOPLE
OF ONTARIO?

[APPLAUSE]

The Speaker says MINISTER TO REPLY.

Clark says THANKS AGAIN, SPEAKER.
THE MEMBER FOR BURLINGTON
FOR THAT QUESTION.
OUR GOVERNMENT BELIEVES THAT
EVERYONE, AND I MEAN
EVERYONE, DESERVES A PLACE
TO CALL HOME.
AS THE MEMBER SAID LAST
THURSDAY, I WAS IN
SCARBOROUGH WITH OUR AMAZING
MINISTER OF SENIORS AND
ACCESSIBILITY TO LAUNCH MORE
HOMES MORE CHOICE, ONTARIO'S
HOUSING SUPPLY ACTION PLAN.
LATER THAT DAY ON THURSDAY I
WAS ABLE TO PRESENT OUR
LEGISLATION MORE HOMES MORE
CHOICE ACT HERE IN THE
HOUSE.
THIS PLAN AND LEGISLATION IF
PASSED WILL PUT AFFORDABLE
HOME OWNERSHIP IN REACH FOR
MANY ONTARIO FAMILIES AND
PROVIDE MORE PEOPLE WITH THE
OPPORTUNITY TO LIVE CLOSER
TO WHERE THEY WORK.
IT'S A RESPONSIBLE PLAN,
SPEAKER.
IT'S A SUSTAINABLE PLAN AND
WILL HELP REDUCE RED TAPE
AND INCREASE HOUSING SUPPLY
THAT IS DESPERATELY NEED
UNDER THIS PROVINCE.
WE'RE MOVING FORWARD,
SPEAKER.

The Speaker says RESPONSE.

Clark says WILL HELP ONTARIANS, AND
I LOOK FORWARD TO SUPPORT
FROM THE OTHER SIDE OF THE
HOUSE AS WELL.

[APPLAUSE]

The Speaker says THE NEXT question. The member for Thunder Bay-Atikokan.

The caption changes to "Judith Monteith-Farrell. NDP. Thunder Bay-Atikokan."

Monteith-Farrell is in her fifties, with short brown hair with blond highlights. She wears glasses, a gray blazer and a red shirt.

She says SPEAKER, MY QUESTION IS
FOR THE PREMIER.
THE GOVERNMENT'S DECISION TO
CUT THE 50 MILLION TREES
PROGRAM IS HURTING LOCAL
BUSINESSES.
THIS WEEKEND IT WAS REPORTED
THAT FERGUSON TREE NURSERY
IN KEMPTVILLE WILL BE
DESTROYING MORE THAN 3
MILLION TREE SEEDLINGS
BECAUSE OF THE CANCELLATION
OF THE PROGRAM.
THE C.E.O. ED PATCHER TOLD
THE MEDIA THE TREES WERE
PRIMARILY FOR PLANTERS,
CONSERVATION AUTHORITIES,
PRIVATE CONTRACTORS AND
STEWARDSHIP GROUPS IN
SOUTHERN ONTARIO.
NOT ONLY WILL THESE CUTS
HURT MR. PACKAGELE'S
BUSINESS BUT THEY WILL HAVE
A NEGATIVE IMPACT ON THE
ENVIRONMENT.
WHY IS THE PREMIER HURTING
BUSINESSES LIKE
MR. PAGILL'S?

Ford says MINISTER OF
NATURAL RESOURCES.

The Speaker says MINISTER OF
NATURAL RESOURCES AND FORESTRY.

[APPLAUSE]

Yakabuski says THANK YOU, SPEAKER.
I THANK THE MEMBER FOR THE
QUESTION.
IT'S CLEAR THAT THERE IS
OBVIOUSLY SOME
MISINFORMATION BEING BANDIED
ABOUT ACROSS THE PROVINCE.
LET'S BE CLEAR, WE WERE LEFT
WITH A MASSIVE 15 BILLION DOLLAR DEFICIT BY THE PREVIOUS
GOVERNMENT AND WE'VE MADE IT
CLEAR THAT WE'RE GOING TO
DEAL WITH THAT.
BUT ON THE ISSUE OF FOREST
ONTARIO AND THE TREE
PLANTING PROGRAM, WHICH THEY
BEGAN PLANTING TREES IN 2008,
IF NOT THEY WERE SUPPOSED TO
HAVE 50 MILLION TREES DONE
BY 2020.
THEY HAVE NOT MET THOSE
GOALS.
WE INDICATED TO THEM
WIELDING BE WINDING DOWN THE
PROGRAM.
BUT EVERY TREE THAT IS
CONTRACTED TO BE PLANTED
THIS YEAR WILL BE PLANTED,
AND WE'VE WORKED WITH FOREST
ONTARIO TO ENSURE THAT THAT
WILL HAPPEN.
SPEAKER, I THINK IT NEEDS TO
BE CLEAR THAT... AND
MR. PATCHILL I'M SURE WHEN
HE EXAMINES WHAT'S REALLY
HAPPENING.

The Speaker says RESPONSE.

Yakabuski says WILL CHANGE HIS STATEMENT
ON THAT.
BUT WE ARE MAKING SURE THAT
WE ARE RESPONSIBLY GETTING
BACK TO BALANCE BUT WE'RE
GOING TO ENSURE ANY CONTRACT
THAT WAS IN PLACE, THOSE
TREES WILL BE PLANTED THIS
YEAR.

[APPLAUSE]

The Speaker says SUPPLEMENTARY QUESTION.

Monteith-Farrell says THANK YOU, SPEAKER.
MY QUESTION IS FOR THE
PREMIER.
WHEN DANIEL ENWRIGHT CALLED
THE PREMIER TO VOICE HIS
OPPOSITION TO THE PREMIER'S
CUTS TO THE 50 MILLION TREE
PROGRAM AND THE LAYOFF OF A
FRIEND, WHO IS A PUBLIC
SERVANT, DANIEL WAS SHOCKED
TO HEAR THE PREMIER DIDN'T
KNOW WHAT WAS GOING ON
INSIDE HIS OWN GOVERNMENT.
THE PREMIER TOLD HIM HE ONLY
LEARNED OF THE CUTS TO THE
PROGRAM THAT MORNING AND HAD
TO CALL HIS PEOPLE TO FIND
OUT WHAT THE PROGRAM WAS
ABOUT.
NOW THAT THE PREMIER IS
AWARE THAT 50 MILLION TREES
PROGRAM HAS BEEN CANCELLED,
WILL HE DIRECT HIS MINISTER
TO REVERSE THIS TERRIBLE
DECISION AND REINSTATE
FUNDING?

[APPLAUSE]

The Speaker says QUESTION'S
BEEN REFERRED TO THE
MINISTER OF NATURAL RESOURCE
AND FORESTRY.

Yakabuski says I THANK YOU OF THE THANK
YOU FOR THE SUPPLEMENTARY.
I WANT TO REITERATE THAT THE
PROGRAM IS BEING... WE'VE
FOLD FOREST ONTARIO THE
PROGRAM WOULD WIND DOWN AND
THEIR PROGRAM WOULD END.
FOREST ONTARIO HAS ALSO
INDICATED CLEARLY THAT
THEY'RE GOING TO GO TO THE
PRIVATE SECTOR AND THAT THEY
BELIEVE THEY WILL BE ABLE TO
SUSTAIN THIS PROGRAM GOING
FORWARD BECAUSE THERE ARE
PEOPLE IN THE PRIVATE SECTOR
AND THERE ARE ORGANIZATIONS
WHO ARE WILLING TO FINANCE
IT.
LET'S BE CLEAR.
THE TAXPAYERS OF ONTARIO
TOLD US CLEARLY LAST YEAR
THAT THEY WANTED US TO CLEAN
UP THE FINANCIAL MESS LEFT
TO US BY THE LIBERALS, WHICH
WAS SUPPORTED BY THE NEW
DEMOCRATS EVERY STEP OF THE
WAY.
WE'RE GOING TO DO THAT.
THERE WILL BE TREES PLANTED
IN THIS PROVINCE.
THE FOREST INDUSTRY PLANTS
AN AVERAGE OF 68 MILLION TREES EVERY YEAR, SPEAKER.

The Speaker says RESPONSE.
LET'S BE CLEAR.
IF THERE'S A LOT OF FEAR
MONGERING GOING OUT THERE
BUT STICK TO THE FACTS.
WE'RE GOING TO CLEAN UP THE
FINANCIAL MESS AND THE TREES
THAT ARE CONTRACTED FOR THIS
YEAR WILL BE PLANTED.

[APPLAUSE]

The Speaker says THANK YOU.
THE NEXT question. The member for Ottawa-South.

The caption changes to "John Fraser. Liberal. Ottawa South."

Fraser is in his late forties, clean-shaven, with wavy white hair. He wears glasses, a dark gray suit, white shirt, and striped blue tie.

He says MR. SPEAKER, MY
QUESTION'S FOR THE PREMIER.
GOOD MORNING, PREMIER.
SPEAKER, IT'S BEEN MORE THAN
ONE YEAR SINCE THE PREMIER
SEIZED THE CONSERVATIVE
LEADERSHIP AND ONE YEAR AGO
HIS CAMPAIGN WAS DECLARED
DEBT FREE TO ELECTIONS
ONTARIO.
SINCE THEN THE PREMIER HAS
TIPPED TO RAISE MONEY
THROUGH HIS LEADERSHIP
CAMPAIGN, FUNNELING MORE
THAN HALF A MILLION DOLLARS INTO THE CONSERVATIVE PARTY
COFFERS.
SPEAKER, THE PREMIER KNOWS
HIS DEBT IS PAID AND HE IS
NOW USING IT SO HE CAN DODGE
INDIVIDUAL ANNUAL
CONTRIBUTION LIMITS.
AND THE PREMIER KNOWS THE
INTENT OF THIS LAW AND TO
PAY DOWN THE LEADERSHIP
DEBT.

The Speaker says GOVERNMENT
SIDE, COME TO ORDER.

Fraser says NOT TO LINE HIS PARTY'S
COFFERS.
SPEAKER, THROUGH YOU TO THE
PREMIER.

[INTERJECTIONS].

The Speaker says GOVERNMENT
SIDE, COME TO ORDER.

Fraser says WILL THE PREMIER STOP
FUND-RAISING FOR HIS
LEADERSHIP CAMPAIGN AND
FUNNELLING IT INTO
CONSERVATIVE PARTY COFFERS,
YES OR NO?

The Speaker says RESPONSE.
GOVERNMENT SIDE HAS TO COME
TO ORDER.
JUST BECAUSE YOU'RE ON THAT
END OF THE CHAMBER, YOU
CAN'T SHOUT DOWN THE MEMBER
WHO'S GOT THE FLOOR.
START THE CLOCK.
QUESTION'S FOR THE PREMIER.

Ford says THROUGH
YOU, MR. SPEAKER, I'M GOING
TO ANSWER TWO QUESTIONS
HERE.
ONE FROM THE OTHER MEMBER.
11:15 AT NIGHT I'M STILL
RETURNING CONSTITUENT CALLS.

[APPLAUSE]

Ford says LET'S TRY TO DO THAT ON THE OTHER SIDE.
IT DOESN'T HAPPEN.
THE ONLY PERSON IN THE
HISTORY OF THIS PROVINCE
THAT ACTUALLY GIVES OUT HIS
NUMBERS THAT RETURNS CALLS
IF THEY LIKE ME OR DISLIKE
ME AT LEAST THEY'RE GOING TO
GET AN ANSWER.
AS FOR THE LIBERAL MEMBER,
AT LEAST, MR. SPEAKER,
PEOPLE ARE ENTHUSED.
WE WERE ELECTED FORB CHANGE
IN THIS PROVINCE.
WE WERE ELECTED TO BE
FISCALLY RESPONSIBLE.
WE WERE ELECTED TO KNOCK
DOWN THAT 15 BILLION DOLLAR BUDGET
AND BALANCE IT IN A
REASONABLE, RESPONSIBLE AND
THOUGHTFUL MANNER AND THAT'S
EXACTLY WHAT WE'RE DOING.
WE'RE FOLLOWING THE RULES,
MR. SPEAKER.
JUST BECAUSE THEY'RE SOUR
GRAPES ON THE OTHER SIDE
THEY CAN'T RAISE A PENNY AND
WE'RE RAISING MILLIONS OF
DOLLARS BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE
ENCOURAGED TO...

The Speaker says RESPONSE.

Ford says ACTUALLY
SUPPORT US.
BY THE WAY, MR. SPEAKER,
WITH 5 DONATIONS, 25
SPAGHETTI DINNERS AROUND THE
PROVINCE, THAT'S WHERE OUR
DONORS AREN'T.
WE AREN'T WITH THE BIG SUPER
RICH GUYS THE LIBERALS
COURTED FOR 15 YEARS.

[APPLAUSE]

The Speaker says THANK YOU.
STOP THE CLOCK.
ORDER.
ORDER.
ORDER.
START THE CLOCK.
SUPPLEMENTARY.

Fraser says THANK YOU, SPEAKER.
I HOPE TO GET AN ANSWER IN
THE SUPPLEMENTARY.
SINCE JANUARY 2019 THE
PREMIER'S LEADERSHIP
CAMPAIGN HAS RAISED
221,000.
2 CONTRIBUTORS DOUBLED THEIR
ANNUAL CONTRIBUTION LIMIT,
DOUBLING... EXCEEDING THE
1,600 AND THE PREMIER KNOWS
NO OTHER PARTY IN THIS
LEGISLATURE, NOT THE N.D.P.,
NOT THE GREENS, NOT THE
LIBERALS, HAS THIS
ADVANTAGE.
THE PREMIER KNOWS THE INTENT
OF THE LAW IS TO PAY DOWN
LEADERSHIP DEBT AND NOT TO
BE USED...

[INTERJECTION]

Fraser says AND NOT TO BE USED TO LINE
HIS PARTY'S COFFERS.

The Speaker says ORDER.

Fraser says LAST WEEK I INTRODUCED A
PRIVATE MEMBER'S BILL TO...

The Speaker says STOP THE CLOCK.

[INTERJECTIONS]

The Speaker says THE GOVERNMENT SIDE WILL
COME TO ORDER.
START THE CLOCK.
I APOLOGIZE TO THE MEMBER
FOR OTTAWA SOUTH.

Fraser says SPEAKER.
LAST WEEK I INTRODUCED A
PRIVATE MEMBER'S BILL TO END
THE PREMIER'S DIRTY DOUBLE
DIP.

[INTERJECTIONS]

Fraser says SPEAKER,
THROUGH YOU WILL THE PREMIER
DO RETHINK FOR ONCE...

The Speaker says I'M GOING TO
ASK THE MEMBER FOR OTTAWA
SOUTH TO BE CAUTIOUS WITH
HIS LANGUAGE.
INTEMPERATE LANGUAGE IS NOT
HELPFUL.
PLEASE FINISH YOUR QUESTION.

Fraser says THANK YOU, SPEAKER.
WILL THE PREMIER DO THREE
THINGS... THROUGH YOU...
NUMBER ONE STOP FUND-RAISING
FOR HIS LEADERSHIP CAMPAIGN,
RETURN THE MONEY THAT THE
EXCEEDED ANNUAL CONTRIBUTION
LIMITS, AND PASS MY PRIVATE
MEMBER'S BILL OR MAKE THAT
CHANGE TO ELECTION LAW THAT
HE SAID HE WAS WILLING TO DO
ABOUT TWO WEEKS AGO BUT HE
DOESN'T SEEM TO HAVE THAT IN
HIS ANSWER?
THANK YOU, SPEAKER.

The Speaker says PREMIER.

Ford says MINISTER OF FINANCE.

The Speaker says REFERRED TO
THE MINISTER OF FINANCE.

The caption changes to "Honourable Victor Fedeli. Minister of Finance."

Fedeli is in his fifties, with short white hair and glasses. He wears a gray suit, white shirt and yellow tie.

He says THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR
THE QUESTION.
YOU KNOW, I HAVE TO SAY IT'S
RATHER RICH FROM THAT PARTY,
WHO HELD SO MANY PAY-TO-PLAY
FUNDERS THAT THE RULES
NEEDED TO BE CHANGED.
I HAVE TO TELL YOU THE
REASON THEY ASK THESE KIND
OF QUESTIONS IS BECAUSE THEY
HAVE ABSOLUTELY NO POLICY
IDEAS, NO POLICY CONCEPT.
SO LET ME TELL YOU A LITTLE
BIT ABOUT POLICY.
I REALIZED WE NEEDED TO STOP
THE 40 MILLION DOLLARS A DAY MORE
THAN YOU WERE TAKING IN THAT
YOU WERE SPENDING.
BUT LET ME TELL YOU, WE ARE
BRINGING RELIEF TO FAMILIES.
26 BILLION DOLLARS.
THAT'S WHAT YOU SHOULD BE
TALKING ABOUT.

[APPLAUSE]

Fedeli says YOU SHOULD BE TALKING ABOUT
THE LIST PROGRAM, LOW INCOME
INDIVIDUAL AND FAMILY TAX
CREDIT RETURNING 2 BILLION DOLLARS TO THE LOW INCOME EARNERS IN
ONTARIO.
YOU SHOULD BE TALKING ABOUT
THE CARE PROGRAM, BRINGING
RELIEF TO CHILD CARE TO
300,000 CHILD CARE PROGRAMS
OVER THE COURSE OF THIS
YEAR.

The Speaker says RESPONSE.

Fedeli says SPEAKER, THAT'S WHY THEY
WANT TO TALK ABOUT SOMETHING
IDLE LIKE THAT RATHER THAN
THE 26 BILLION DOLLARS THAT
FAMILIES ARE SEEING BACK IN
THEIR POCKETS.

[APPLAUSE]

The Speaker says STOP THE CLOCK.
RESTART THE CLOCK.
NEXT question. The member for Brampton West.

[APPLAUSE]

The caption changes to "Amarjot Sandhu. PC. Brampton West."

Sandhu is in his thirties, with short black hair and a stubble. He wears a gray suit, white shirt, and brown tie.

He says THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER.
MY QUESTION IS FOR THE
MINISTER OF ECONOMIC
DEVELOPMENT, JOB CREATION
AND TRADE.
THIS WEEK THE MINISTER
TRAVELLED TO INDIA TO BRING
OUR OPEN-FOR-BUSINESS
MESSAGE TO THE WORLD'S
LARGEST DEMOCRACY.
THE MINISTER WAS THERE TO
MEET WITH BUSINESS LEADERS
AND PROMOTE ONTARIO AS A
DESTINATION FOR INVESTMENT
AND JOBS.
SINCE BEING ELECTED, WE HAVE
BEEN DOING EVERYTHING WE CAN
TO CREATE AN ENVIRONMENT.

The Speaker says ORDER.

Sandhu says BECAUSE WE KNOW THAT WHEN
BUSINESSES THRIVE, PEOPLE
THRIVE.
AND WHEN PEOPLE THRIVE,
COMMUNITIES THRIVE.
WE'VE BEEN LOWERING TAXES
AND FIXING THE LIBERALS'
HYDRO MESS.
THESE MEASURES ARE GIVING
BUSINESSES THE CONFIDENCE
THAT THE NEED TO ONCE AGAIN
INVEST IN ONTARIO.
WOULD THE MINISTER OUTLINE
FOR THE HOUSE THE IMPORTANCE
OF BRINGING OUR
OPEN-FOR-BUSINESS MESSAGE TO
INTERNATIONAL INVESTORS?

Interjection: GREAT
QUESTION.

[APPLAUSE]

The Speaker says MINISTER OF
ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, JOB
CREATION AND TRADE.

The caption changes to "Honourable Todd Smith. PC. Minister of Economic Development, Job Creation and Trade."

Smith is in his late forties, balding, with a gray goatee. He wears a gray suit, white shirt, and dark burgundy tie.

He says THANKS VERY MUCH TO THE MEMBER FROM BRAMPTON WEST
FOR THE GREAT QUESTION AND
THE GREAT WORK THAT HE'S
DOING FOR HIS COMMUNITY.
LET ME TELL YOU...

[APPLAUSE]

Smith says MR. SPEAKER, MY FIRST TRIP
TO INDIA.
INDIA IS BUZZING WITH
EXCITEMENT, MR. SPEAKER.
IT'S AN UNBELIEVABLE
COUNTRY.
NOT ONLY IS IT THE WORLD'S
LARGEST DEMOCRACY, AND THEY
ARE IN THE MIDDLE OF THEIR
NATIONAL ELECTIONS RIGHT
NOW.
900 MILLION PEOPLE ARE
EXPECTED TO VOTE WITH THE
RESULTS COMING LATER THIS
MONTH.
BUT IT'S ONE OF THE FASTEST
GROWING ECONOMIES AS WELL.
7 TO 8 percent YEAR OVER YEAR.
THERE ARE MANY, MANY
COMPANIES, ABOUT 60 OF THEM
IN ALL, MR. SPEAKER, FROM
INDIA THAT ARE CURRENTLY
OPERATING HERE IN ONTARIO.
AND MANY MORE THAT ARE
LOOKING AT OPENING UP IN
NORTH AMERICA AND WE THINK
THAT ONTARIO IS THE BEST
ENTRY POINT FOR THOSE
COMPANIES WHO WANT TO EMBARK
IN THE NORTH AMERICAN
MARKET.
THAT'S WHY WE WENT THERE TO
MEET DIRECTLY WITH
BUSINESSES, MR. SPEAKER.

The Speaker says RESPONSE.

Smith says AND TELL THEM WHAT WE'RE
DOING HERE IN ONTARIO.
WE'VE BEEN CREATING JOBS
ALREADY, MR. SPEAKER.
123,000 OF THEM IN THE LAST
SEVERAL MONTHS.

[APPLAUSE]

Smith says AND WE KNOW AND NOW THEY
KNOW THAT ONTARIO IS THE
BEST PLACE TO INVEST...

The Speaker says THANK YOU.
SUPPLEMENTARY QUESTION.

Sandhu says THANK YOU, SPEAKER.
THANK YOU TO THE MINISTER
FOR HIS RESPONSE.
AFTER 15 YEARS OF LIBERAL
GOVERNMENTS, BUSINESSES ARE
FINALLY LOOKING TO INVEST IN
ONTARIO AGAIN.
THEY HAVE CONFIDENCE IN
THEIR GOVERNMENT BECAUSE
WHEN BUSINESSES... BECAUSE
BUSINESSES KNOW THAT WE
UNDERSTAND THE CHALLENGES
THEY FACE AND WE UNDERSTAND
THE PRO BUSINESS POLICIES
ARE PRO PEOPLE POLICIES.
WE ARE PROVIDING 8 BILLION DOLLARS OF CORPORATE INCOME TAX
RELIEF THROUGH THE
INVESTMENT INCENTIVE.
WILL ENCOURAGE BUSINESSES TO
INVEST IN THEIR FACILITIES
AND CREATE TENS OF THOUSANDS
OF JOBS.
25 percent.
SAVING BUSINESSES 400
MILLION DOLLARS.
WE'RE MAKING ONTARIO OPEN
FOR BUSINESS AND OPEN FOR
JOBS.
COULD THE MINISTER TELL THE
HOUSE THE RESPONSE HE'S
RECEIVED FROM BUSINESSES IN
INDIA?

[APPLAUSE]

The Speaker says MINISTER.

Smith says THANKS AGAIN TO THE MEMBER FROM BRAMPTON FOR THE
QUESTION.
YOU WOULDN'T BELIEVE THE
RESPONSE ACTUALLY,
MR. SPEAKER.
THESE BUSINESSES ARE EXCITED
TO INVEST HERE IN ONTARIO.
THEY KNOW THAT THIS IS THE
GREAT PLACE TO BE IN NORTH
AMERICA.
I MET WITH TOO MANY
BUSINESSES TO NAME.
PROBABLY ABOUT 50 OF THEM IN
ALL, MR. SPEAKER, DURING THE
TRIP.
I MET WITH HIDE ENERGY AND
SABRE BIO ENTRY AND ADVANCE
ENZYMES TO PROMOTE ONTARIO'S
AGRI-FOOD SECTOR.
I ALSO SAT DOWN WITH MA HIND
R AND MAHINDRA AEROSPACE,
MAHINDRA TRACTORS.
ALL PART OF THE BOOMING
INDIA AUTOMOTIVE SEC
TOMORROW.
I ALSO MET WITH LARGE AND
TUBRO, WHICH IS PART OF THE
CONSTRUCTION COMPANIES THERE
THAT ARE LOOKING TO DO
INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECTS.
I SPOKE WITH PAY T.M.,
INDIAN TECH COMPANY.
THEIR NORTH AMERICAN HEAD
OFFICE IS HERE IN TORONTO
RIGHT NOW.

The Speaker says RESPONSE.

Smith says I'M PROUD TO TELL YOU
THEY'RE LOOKING AT CREATING
100 MORE JOBS HERE IN
ONTARIO OVER THE NEXT YEAR.
PAY T.M. IS EXCITED ABOUT
THE WORK OUR GOVERNMENT IS
DOING.
I WISH THE N.D.P. WAS
EXCITED AS FOLKS IN INDIA...

[APPLAUSE]

The Speaker says THANK YOU.
THE MEMBER FOR UNIVERSITY-ROSEDALE.

The caption changes to "Jessica Bell. NDP. University-Rosedale."

Bell is in her late thirties, with shoulder-length wavy brown hair. She wears a black blazer over a blue shirt.

She says THANK YOU, SPEAKER.
MY QUESTION'S TO THE DEPUTY
PREMIER.
LAST WEEK THE CONSERVATIVE
GOVERNMENT TOOK ANOTHER STEP
FORWARD IN THE PREMIER'S
SCHEME TO TAKE OVER THE
TTC
THE LEGISLATION HANDS OVER
TOTAL CONTROL OF ALL NEW
TRANSIT PROJECTS TO THE
PROVINCE WITHOUT ANY INPUT
OR FAITH IN THE PEOPLE OF
TORONTO OR ANY COMPENSATION
FOR THE PEOPLE WHO BUILT AND
PAID FOR THE TTC SYSTEM
FOR GENERATIONS.
THAT MEANS THE PREMIER CAN
CHOOSE WHAT GETS BUILT WHEN
AND HOW, ALLOWING TO
DEVELOPER FRIEND BUT NOT
TRANSIT RIDERS OR THE PEOPLE
OF TORONTO.
HOW CAN THE PREMIER JUSTIFY
SNATCHING TORONTO'S SYSTEM
AWAY FROM THE PEOPLE WHO USE
AND INVEST IN THE TTC
EVERY DAY?

[APPLAUSE]

The Speaker says THE QUESTION
TO THE DEPUTY PREMIER.

Elliott says MINISTER OF MUNICIPAL
AFFAIRS AND HOUSING.

The Speaker says REFERRED TO THE MINISTER OF MUNICIPAL AFFAIRS AND HOUSING.

Clark says THANK YOU, SPEAKER.
I WANT TO THANK THE MEMBER
FOR THE QUESTION.
ON BEHALF OF MINISTER YUREK
WHO TABLED THE GETTING
ONTARIO MOVING ACT LAST
THURSDAY I'M PLEASED TO BE
ABLE TO ANSWER THE QUESTION.
THE REASON WE INTRODUCED
THIS LEGISLATION, SPEAKER
THERE'S A NUMBER OF PROPOSED
MEASURES.
THIS IS A VERY, VERY
IMPORTANT BILL FOR OUR
GOVERNMENT TO MOVE FORWARD.
THE PEOPLE OF ONTARIO,
THEY'VE WAITED LONG ENOUGH
FOR TRANSIT IMPROVEMENTS AND
INVESTMENTS.
SO BY AMENDING THE METROLINX
ACT TO UPLOAD RESPONSIBILITY
OF NEW SUBWAY PROJECTS FROM
THE CITY OF TORONTO TO THE
PROVINCE WOULD MEAN THAT NEW
SUB WAIVES ARE BUILT FASTER
AND ON TIME FOR THE PEOPLE
OF ONTARIO.
THERE ARE A NUMBER OF OTHER
COMPONENTS OF THIS ACT,
SPEAKER.
THINGS THAT DEAL WITH SCHOOL
BUS SAFETY.
THERE ARE A NUMBER OF
MEASURES.
BUT THE ITEM THAT THE MEMBER
ASKED, I THINK AGAIN MOST
ONTARIANS ARE CONCERNED.

The Speaker says RESPONSE.

Clark says SUBWAYS AREN'T BEING
BUILT FASTER.
THIS UP LOVER LOAD... UPLOAD
SOMETHING DESPERATELY
REQUIRED.
THE BILL IF PASSED WOULD
PROVIDE THAT NECESSARY
RELIEF.
I'D BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO
ANSWER FURTHER QUESTIONS IN
THE SUPPLEMENTAL.

[APPLAUSE]

The Speaker says SUPPLEMENTARY QUESTION.

Bell says BACK TO THE DEPUTY
PREMIER.
IN THE BACK OF THE NAPKIN
SCHEME, THE PREMIER SAYS HE
CAN BUILD NEW SUBWAYS FASTER
BY OPENING UP THE PROCESS TO
THE PRIVATE SECTOR.
OK.
WITH HER DISCLAIM BEFORE,
LET'S LOOK AT THE UNION
PEARSON EXPRESS.
LOOK AT PRESTO.
LET'S LOOK AT THE EGLINTON
CROSSTOWN WHICH HAD YEARS OF
DELAYS AND IT'S GONE
MILLIONS OF DOLLARS OVER
BUDGET.
IN FACT THE PRIVATE
CONSORTIUM BUILDING THE
EGLINTON CROSSTOWN EXTRACTED
AN EXTRA 237 MILLION DOLLARS FROM
TAXPAYERS TO STICK TO ITS
ORIGINAL CONTRACT.
THAT IS THE LARGEST PAYOUT
ON A PUBLIC-PRIVATE
PARTNERSHIP IN ONTARIO'S
HISTORY.
WILL THE PREMIER ADMIT THAT
HE IS WRONG AND STOP THE
HOSTILE TAKEOVER OF THE
TTC?

[APPLAUSE]

The Speaker says MEMBERS
PLEASE TAKE THEIR SEATS.
QUESTION'S TO THE MINISTER
OF MUNICIPAL AFFAIRS AND
HOUSING.

Clark says TO THE MINISTER OF
INFRASTRUCTURE.

The Speaker says REFERRED TO
THE MINISTER OF
INFRASTRUCTURE.

The caption changes to "Honourable Monte McNaughton. PC. Minister of Infrastructure."

McNaughton is in his late thirties, clean-shaven, with receding short brown hair. He wears glasses, a gray suit, pink white shirt, and striped black tie.

He says THANK YOU VERY MUCH,
MR. SPEAKER.
LET'S FACE IT, MR. SPEAKER.
IF THE N.D.P. WERE IN POWER
TODAY, THERE WOULD HARDLY BE
ANY TRANSIT BUILT IN THE
PROVINCE OF ONTARIO.
MR. SPEAKER, WE HAVE A GREAT
TRACK RECORD IN THE PROVINCE
OF ONTARIO WHEN IT COMES TO
PUBLIC/PRIVATE PARTNERSHIPS.
IN FACT MR. SPEAKER...

The Speaker says OPPOSITION,
COME TO ORDER.

McNaughton says INFRASTRUCTURE ONTARIO,
109 PRIVATE PUBLIC
PARTNERSHIPS IN THE PROVINCE
OF ONTARIO SINCE 2005.
MR. SPEAKER, 95 percent OF ALL OF
THOSE PROJECTS, 95 percent OF 109
PROJECTS WERE DELIVERED ON
BUDGET.
MR. SPEAKER, WE TAKE PRIDE
IN THE PARTNERSHIPS OF THE
PRIVATE SECTOR.

The Speaker says ORDER.

McNaughton says ON THIS PART.
MR. SPEAKER, I WAS PLEASED
TO JOIN THE MINISTER OF
TRANSPORTATION, OUR PREMIER,
A NUMBER OF OUR M.P.P.S.

The Speaker says RESPONSE.

McNaughton says TO ANNOUNCE A HISTORIC
INVESTMENT INTO SUBWAY
EXPANSION IN TORONTO
TOTALLING 28.5 BILLION DOLLARS.
I WILL PUT OUR PREMIER'S
TRACK RECORD, OUR
GOVERNMENT'S TRACK RECORD
AGAINST THE N...

[APPLAUSE]

The Speaker says THANK YOU.
NEXT question. The member for York Centre.

[APPLAUSE]

The caption changes to "Roman Baber. PC. York Centre."

Baber is in his late thirties, clean-shaven, with short brown hair. He wears a blue suit, white shirt, and pink tie.

He says THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER.
MY QUESTION IS FOR THE
MINISTER OF MUNICIPAL
AFFAIRS AND HOUSING.
THE LOCAL PLANNING AND
APPEALS TRIBUNAL WAS BROKEN
FROM THE BEGINNING.
TORONTO REGION BOARD OF
TRADE ESTIMATES THAT
APPROXIMATELY 100,000
HOUSING UNITS ARE CAUGHT UP
IN CASES AT THE LPAT.
SPEAKER, MANY UNITS COULD BE
BUILT BUT WITH SO MANY
CAUGHT UP WITH THE TRIBUNAL,
WHAT HELP ARE THEY TO THE
PEOPLE OF ONTARIO WHO ARE
SEEING SKYROCKETING PRICES
FOR HOMES AND RENTALS?
THIS KIND OF RED TAPE IS
INCREASING DELAYS IN
UNLOCKING POTENTIAL HOUSING
HARMING BOTH PEOPLE AND
COMMUNITIES.
ACCOUNT MINISTER PLEASE
SHARE WITH THE HOUSE HOW HIS
PROPOSED CHANGES WILL SPEED
UP THE LPAT SO THAT MORE
HOUSES AND RENTALS CAN GET
ON THE MARKET FASTER?

The Speaker says QUESTION TO
THE MINISTER OF MUNICIPAL
AFFAIRS AND HOUSING.

Clark says I WANT TO THANK THE
HONOURABLE MEMBER FOR THAT
EXCELLENT QUESTION.
AS I THINK MOST MEMBERS IN
THIS HOUSE KNOW, ONTARIO,
WE'RE IN A HOUSING CRISIS.
WE ALL KNOW THAT THAT WAS
CAUSED IN PART BY YEARS OF
MISMANAGEMENT BY THE
PREVIOUS GOVERNMENT.
THEY JUST DIDN'T GET THAT
FILE RIGHT.
THERE ARE A LOT OF... NOT
ENOUGH HOMES FOR FAMILIES
AND INDIVIDUALS.
WE NEED TO HAVE SOME BIG
CHANGES IN TERMS OF HOUSING
SUPPLY.
SO I APPRECIATE THE QUESTION
REGARDING THE LPAT.
CURRENTLY AT THE LOCAL
PLANNING APPEAL TRIBUNAL,
THERE IS A TREMENDOUS
BACKLOG OF LEGACY ONTARIO
MUNICIPAL BOARD CASES.
THE BACKLOG HAS SLOWED DOWN
THE APPROVAL PROCESS.
IT IS AT A CRISIS POINT
ITSELF.
I WANT TO THANK THE ATTORNEY
GENERAL FOR ALL THE SUPPORT.
WE'RE CURRENTLY ADDING 11
NEW ADJUDICATORS TO THE LPAT
WHICH IS A 40 percent INCREASE.

The Speaker says RESPONSE.

Clark says SIGNIFICANTLY ON THAT
BACKLOG.
THERE ARE A NUMBER OF OTHER
PROPOSED CHANGES THAT I
THINK TAKE THE BEST OF THE
O.M.B. AND THE LPAT SYSTEM
AND REALLY WILL BE ABLE TO
MOVE FORWARD TO CREATE AND
UNLOCK THIS 100,000 UNITS.

The Speaker says THANK YOU.

[APPLAUSE]

The Speaker says SUPPLEMENTARY QUESTION.

Baber says THANK YOU, SPEAKER.
THANK YOU, MINISTER, FOR
THAT ANSWER.
HOUSING IS NOT GOING TO
BUILD ITSELF AND WE NEED
REAL SOLUTIONS TO SOLVE
HOUSING SHORTAGE IN OUR
PROVINCE.
MR. SPEAKER, THERE'S SOME
CONCERN AMONG MY
CONSTITUENTS THAT THE
CHANGES ANNOUNCED WILL
RETURN THE LPAT TO AN
O.M.B.-STYLE DECISION MAKING
BODY.
THERE ARE ALSO SOME CONCERNS
THAT THE PROPOSED CHANGES TO
THE LPAT FEES ARE GOING TO
ADD MORE EXPENSE FOR
INDIVIDUALS AND COMMUNITY
GROUPS, THERE BY MAKING THE
PROCESS LESS ACCESSIBLE.
COULD THE MINISTER PLEASE
CLARIFY THE IMPACT OF THESE
PROPOSED CHANGES AND HOW THE
OUTDATED LPAT PROCESS WILL
BE DIFFERENT FROM THE OLD
O.M.B. PROCESS?

The Speaker says MINISTER TO REPLY.

Clark says I WANT TO THANK THE MEMBER FROM YORK CENTRE FOR
THAT QUESTION.
HE REALLY GETS IT.
SPEAKER, FROM OUR
CONSULTATIONS THROUGH THE
HOUSING ACTION PLAN, THE
OVER 2,000 SUBMISSIONS WE
RECEIVED, OVER 85 percent WERE FROM
THE GENERAL PUBLIC.
AND ESSENTIALLY THE CURRENT
PROCESS, AS THE MEMBER NOTES,
JUST WASN'T WORKING.
WE'RE PROPOSING CHANGES TO
THE LPAT THAT WOULD MAKE
SURE THAT THEY HAVE ALL THE
NECESSARY INFORMATION TO
MAKE A DECISION.
WE WANT TO ENSURE THAT THEY
HAVE THE POWERS AND THE
RESOURCES THAT ARE AVAILABLE
TO MAKE THOSE TIMELY
DECISIONS.
I TALKED IN MY FIRST ANSWER
ABOUT THE SIGNIFICANT
INCREASE IN ADJUDICATORS.
BUT WE ALSO WANT TO ALLOW
THE TRIBUNAL TO MAKE THOSE
BEST PLANNING DECISIONS NOT
JUST IN THE PLACE OF COUNCIL
BUT WE ALSO WANT TO BE ABLE
TO CHARGE DIFFERENT FEES AND
MOVE TOWARDS A COST RECOVERY
MODEL WHILE STILL ALLOWING.

The Speaker says RESPONSE.

Clark says COMMUNITY GROUPS AND
RESIDENTS TO MAINTAIN
AFFORDABLE ACCESS TO THE
APPEALS PROCESS.
I THINK AGAIN, SPEAKER,
WE'RE TAKING THE BEST OF THE
O.M.B. AND LPAT TO MOVE
FORWARD.
I'M CONVINCED THAT THESE
ADJUDICATORS WILL CREATE A
CHANGE IN THE BACKLOG.
MANY OTHER...

The Speaker says THANK YOU
VERY MUCH.

[APPLAUSE]

The Speaker says THE NEXT question. The member for TORONTO CENTRE.

The caption changes to "Suze Morrison. NDP. Toronto Centre."

Morrison is in her late thirties, with straight brown hair in a bob. She wears a white cardigan over a black shirt, and a silver pendant necklace.

She says THANK YOU, SPEAKER.
MY QUESTION'S TO THE
PREMIER.
LAST THURSDAY, THE
GOVERNMENT TABLED A BILL
THAT READS LIKE IT WAS
WRITTEN BY THE PREMIER'S
DEVELOPER FRIENDS AND
CAMPAIGN DONORS.
IT'S NOT A HOUSING BILL.
IT IS A BILL OF RIGHTS FOR
DEVELOPERS SEEKING TO PAVE
OVER PRIME FARMLAND AND
WETLANDS WITH IMPUGN...
IMPUNITY.
BILL 108 GUTS THE
INCLUSIONARY LAWS THAT
AFFORDABLE HOUSING ADVOCATES
FOUGHT SO HARD FOR, WHILE
DOING NOTHING TO STOP
UNETHICAL LANDLORDS FROM
GOUGING THEIR TENANTS OR
ILLEGALLY EVICTING THEM SO
THAT THEY CAN RAISE THE
RENTS.
WHY IS THE PREMIER PUTTING
THE INTERESTS OF DEVELOPERS
ABOVE THE RIGHT OF AWE
ONTARIANS TO HAVE A SAFE AND
AFFORDABLE HOME?

[APPLAUSE]

The Speaker says I LOOK TO
THE ACTING PREMIER.

Elliott says MINISTER OF MUNICIPAL AFFAIRS.

The Speaker says REFERRED TO
THE MINISTER OF MUNICIPAL
AFFAIRS AND HOUSING.

Clark says THANKS, SPEAKER.
I CAN'T EXPRESS, SPEAKER,
THROUGH YOU, HOW
DISAPPOINTED I AM IN THE
PREMISE OF THAT QUESTION AND
WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO
ACCOMPLISH.
OUR GOVERNMENT BELIEVES THAT
EVERYONE DESERVES A PLACE TO
CALL HOME.
YOU KNOW WHO ARE MY FRIENDS,
SPEAKER?
MY FRIENDS ARE THAT COUPLE
IN THEIR 20S OR 30S THAT
RIGHT NOW DON'T HAVE THAT
DREAM OF HOME OWNERSHIP
WITHIN THEIR GRASP.
YOU KNOW WHO ARE MY FRIENDS,
SPEAKER?
IT'S THAT COUPLE WITH A
COUPLE OF KIDS THAT ARE
700-SQUARE-FOOT APARTMENT
WITH A SMALL STORAGE LOCKER
THAT DON'T SEE AN
OPPORTUNITY FOR THEM TO GET
THE HOME THAT THEY NEED.
YOU KNOW WHO ARE MY FRIENDS,
SPEAKER?
THEY'RE THE HUNDREDS OF
THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE THAT
OVER... OVER THIS
ANNOUNCEMENT AND OVER OUR
CONSULTATION, THAT HAVE COME
FORWARD TO UNANIMOUSLY SAY
THAT WE NEED TO INTENSIFY
AROUND TRANSIT.
THAT'S WHERE PEOPLE WANT TO
LIVE, SPEAKER UNFORTUNATELY
IT'S THE SENIOR THAT WANTS
TO DOWN-SIZE.

The Speaker says RESPONSE.

Clark says SEEM TO HAVE THAT OPTION.
IT IS EIGHT PERSON WHO WANTS
TO CREATE A SECOND UNIT IN
THE HOUSE.
THOSE ARE MY FRIEND,
SPEAKER.
THOSE ARE THE PEOPLE THAT...

[APPLAUSE]

Clark says THOSE ARE THE PEOPLE THAT WE
WANT TO PROVIDE A SAFE SPACE
THAT'S STABLE...

[APPLAUSE]

The Speaker says THANK YOU.
STOP THE CLOCK.
RESTART THE CLOCK.
SUPPLEMENTARY.

Morrison says THANK YOU, SPEAKER.
BILL 108 NOT ONLY
EVISCERATES ONTARIO'S
INCLUSIONARY ZONING LAWS BUT
IT PUTS A CAP ON FUNDING FOR
GROWTH RELATED SERVICES LIKE
LIBRARIES AND COMMUNITY
CENTRES AND DAY CARES.
IT STOPS CITIES FROM
ENSURING THAT NEW
DEVELOPMENTS INCLUDE PARKS
AND PUBLIC SPACES.
IT ENCOURAGES MORE SPRAWL
WHILE SHORT CHANGING
RESIDENTS SEEKING A NEW HOME,
IN DENSIFYING URBAN
COMMUNITIES LIKE DOWNTOWN
TORONTO AND IT STOPS
ENVIRONMENTAL OR HUMAN
RIGHTS GROUPS FROM APPEALING
A DECISION THAT HARMS OUR
NATURAL HERITAGE OR THAT
BLOCKS NEW HOUSING CHOICES
FOR LOW-INCOME PEOPLE.
WHY WON'T THE PREMIER FUND
AFFORDABLE HOUSING INSTEAD
OF GIVING AWAY THE PROVINCE
TO DEVELOPERS?

[APPLAUSE]

The Speaker says MINISTER.

Clark says AGAIN, SPEAKER, I REALLY
HOPE THE MEMBER TAKES
ADVANTAGE OF THE BRIEFING
WE'VE OFFERED HER TODAY
BECAUSE SHE CAN'T BE MORE
AWAY FROM THE TRUTH.
IN TERMS OF THE COMMUNITY
BENEFITS...

Interjection:.

The Speaker says I'M GOING TO
HAVE TO ASK THE MEMBER TO
WITHDRAW.

Clark says WITHDRAW.
AGAIN, SPEAKER, SHE NEEDS TO
UNDERSTAND THE ANNOUNCEMENT
THAT WE MADE ON THURSDAY WAS
OUR INTENTION TO CONSULT.
YOU KNOW, I HAD TO MAKE THE
SAME CORRECTION WITH
COUNCILLOR MATLOW.
I HAD TO MAKE THE SAME
CORRECTION.
RATHER THAN GRANDSTANDING,
WHY DOESN'T THE MEMBER JUST
ACKNOWLEDGE, LIKE GROUPS
LIKE THE ASSOCIATION OF
MUNICIPALITIES OF ONTARIO,
THAT OUR COMMUNITY BENEFITS
AUTHORITY CONSULTATION
RECOGNIZES THAT GROWTH PAYS
FOR GROWTH.
BUT AT THE SAME TIME PEOPLE
WHO WANT TO BUILD HOMES NEED
THAT CERTAINTY.
SO, YOU KNOW, AGAIN THE
INTENTION TO CONSULT WAS
THERE.

The Speaker says RESPONSE.

Clark says IF THE MEMBER READS THE
LEGISLATION PROPERLY,
REALIZES THAT INCLUSIONARY
ZONING, WE FEEL, IS BEST
TOWARDS TRANSIT.
THAT'S WHERE EVERYONE
ACKNOWLEDGES...

The Speaker says THANK YOU.

[APPLAUSE]

The Speaker says THANK YOU.
THE NEXT question. The member for Barrie-Innisfil.

The caption changes to "Andrea Khanjin. PC. Barrie-Innisfil."

Khanjin is in her early thirties, with long wavy brown hair. She wears a dark gray blazer over printed gray blouse.

She says THANK YOU.

[APPLAUSE]

Khanjin says THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER.
MY QUESTION TO THE MINISTER
OF EDUCATION.
LAST WEEK I WAS
DISAPPOINTED.
MR. SPEAKER, I WAS
DISAPPOINTED TO SEE THAT THE
CITY OF TORONTO WAS ONCE
AGAIN SPREADING
MISINFORMATION.
WHEN IT COMES TO THE SUPPORT
OUR GOVERNMENT IS GIVING FOR
CHILD CARE.
I KNOW THAT OUR GOVERNMENT
HAS ALWAYS BEEN CLEAR, CLEAR
THAT WE NEED TO TAKE CLEAR
ACTION TO PROTECT WHAT
MATTERS MOST, MR. SPEAKER,
WHILE PROVIDING RELIEF TO
FAMILIES AND INDIVIDUALS
TODAY.
CAN THE MINISTER PLEASE TELL
THE HOUSE MORE ABOUT THE
SUPPORTS WE'RE PROVIDING FOR
THE CITY TO ENSURE THAT
PARENTS ARE GETTING THE MOST
OUT OF THEIR CHILD CARE?

The Speaker says MINISTER OF
EDUCATION.

Thompson says THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
FIRST OF ALL I'D LIKE TO
THANK THE MEMBER FOR BARRIE-INNISFIL FOR THE
GREAT QUESTION.
YOU'RE DOING A WONDERFUL JOB
IN YOUR RIDING.

[APPLAUSE]

Thompson says CITY OF TORONTO WAS... I
WISH CITY OF TORONTO WAS
DOING EQUALLY AS GOOD A JOB.
EVEN THEIR OWN AUDITOR
GENERAL HAS BEEN WAVING THE
WARNING FLAGS.
WE'RE GOING TO BE WATCHING.
THIS YEAR ALONE WE'RE GOING
TO BE GIVING THE CITY OF
TORONTO 433 MILLION DOLLARS FOR
CHILD CARE SERVICES ALONE.
AND WE'RE CHALLENGING THEM.
WE'RE CHALLENGING THEM TO
SPEND IT WISELY AND INVEST
WHERE IT NEEDS TO BE DONE.
IT'S UNACCEPTABLE THAT 16 percent
CHILD CARE SPACES WERE LEFT
VACANT LAST YEAR.
FAMILIES NEED CITY OF
TORONTO... FAMILIES IN
TORONTO NEED THEIR CITY
COUNCIL TO BE WORKING WITH
THEM BECAUSE, GUESS WHAT?
WE THINK THEY COULD REDUCE
THE COST OF DELIVERING CHILD
CARE IN THE CITY OF TORONTO.

The Speaker says RESPONSE.

Thompson says BY 5 percent.
THERE'S OPPORTUNITIES TO
FIND EFFICIENCIES AND WE
WANT TO WORK WITH THE CITY
OF TORONTO TO MAKE SURE THAT
HAPPENS, BECAUSE AGAIN,
SPEAKER, OUR FOCUS IS ON THE
PARENTS.
WE'RE PUTTING THEM FIRST,
NOT GOVERNMENT.
PARENTS SHOULD BE DECIDING...

The Speaker says THANK YOU.

[APPLAUSE]

The Speaker says SUPPLEMENTARY.

Khanjin says THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER.
AND THANK YOU TO THE
MINISTER FOR HER DETAILED
RESPONSE.
IT IS GREAT TO HAVE SOMEONE
PROVIDE ACCURATE INFORMATION
RATHER THAN MISINFORMATION.

Interjection: HEAR, HEAR!

Khanjin says THAT'S BEING SPREAD BY
THE CITY.
MR. SPEAKER, UNDER THE
PREVIOUS GOVERNMENT, PARENTS
WERE OFTEN FORGOTTEN,
SUFFERING UNDER THE WEIGHT
OF INCREASED TAXES AND
INCREASED EXPENSES WITH NO
RELIEF IN SIGHT.
THANKFULLY OUR GOVERNMENT IS
REVERSING THIS TREND AND
BRINGING RELIEF BACK TO THE
PEOPLE OF ONTARIO.
WITH THE BUDGET, I WAS
EXCITED THAT OUR GOVERNMENT
IS PROPOSING THOUGHTFUL
SOLUTIONS THAT RESPECT
PARENTS AND PROVIDE THEM
WITH THE SUPPORT THAT THEY
NEED.
COULD THE MINISTER PLEASE
EXPLAIN MORE ABOUT HOW THE
GOVERNMENT IS SUPPORTING
PARENTS WITH A CHILD CARE
POLICY THAT WORKS?

[APPLAUSE]

The Speaker says MINISTER.

Thompson says THANK YOU VERY MUCH,
MR. SPEAKER.
I'M PLEASED TO STAND IN THIS
HOUSE ANY TIME TO TALK ABOUT
WHAT WE'RE BRINGING FORWARD
BECAUSE IT'S DEMONSTRATING
NOT ONLY HAS OUR GOVERNMENT
LISTENED BUT WE'RE CARING AS
WELL BECAUSE IT WAS MY
PLEASURE TO BE WITH THE
MINISTER OF FINANCE.

Interjection: GOOD GUY.

Thompson says IN THE AMAZING RIDING OF
PICKERING THAT IS
REPRESENTED BY THE PRESIDENT
OF THE TREASURY BOARD.
BECAUSE WE'VE INVESTED 2
BILLION DOLLARS TO SUPPORT CHILD
CARE INITIATIVES ACROSS THIS
PROVINCE, AND THAT'S THIS
YEAR ALONE, BECAUSE YOU KNOW
THE FACT OF THE MATTER IS WE
NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT
PARENTS HAVE CHOICE,
ACCESSIBILITY, AFFORDABILITY
AND ALSO FLEXIBILITY GIVEN
THEIR SCHEDULES.
WE'RE CREATING 30,000 NEW
SPACES.
10,000 ALONE WILL BE
SITUATED IN SCHOOLS AND THIS
IS GOING TO HELP.
OUR PLAN IS GOING TO HELP
300,000 FAMILIES.
AND LET ME TELL YOU.

The Speaker says RESPONSE.

Thompson says OUR CARE PROGRAM, OUR TAX
CREDITS, WILL COVER UP TO
75 percent OF THEIR EXPENSES THAT
WILL GO TO IN CENTRES, HOMES
OR CAMPS.
AGAIN WE'RE PUTTING PARENTS
IN THE CENTRE OF THE
DECISION MAKING.

[APPLAUSE]

The Speaker says THANK YOU.
THE NEXT question. The member for Windsor West.

The caption changes to "Lisa Gretzky. NDP. Windsor West."

Gretzky is in her forties, with shoulder-length straight reddish brown hair. She wears glasses, a bright pink blazer and a white blouse.

She says THANK YOU, SPEAKER.
MY QUESTION'S TO THE
PREMIER.
IN NOVEMBER, THE MINISTER OF
CHILDREN, COMMUNITY AND
SOCIAL SERVICES ANNOUNCED
POTENTIALLY DEVASTATING
CHANGES TO THE ONTARIO
DISABILITY SUPPORT PROGRAM.
DESPITE THE FACT THAT ODSP
RATES ARE ALREADY FORCING
PEOPLE WITH DISABILITIES TO
LIVE IN POVERTY, THE
MINISTER SLASHED THE PLANNED
INCREASE BY 50 percent AND
INCREASED THE CLAW BACK ON
EARNED INCOME TO 75 percent.
MOST DISTURBINGLY MINISTER
ANNOUNCED FUTURE CHANGES TO
THE DEFINITION OF DISABILITY
WHICH IS USED TO DETERMINE
ODSP ELIGIBLEIBILITY.
RIGHTLY CONCERNED THIS
CONSERVATIVE GOVERNMENT IS
MOVING TOWARDS A MORE NARROW
DEFINITION THAT WOULD
EXCLUDE THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE.
WILL THE PREMIER CONFIRM
WHETHER THE GOVERNMENT WILL
BE ADOPTING A MORE
RESTRICTIVE DEFINITION LIKE
THE FEDERAL CPPD DEFINITION,
YES OR NO?

[APPLAUSE]

The Speaker says QUESTION'S
FOR THE PREMIER.

Ford says MINISTER OF
MUNICIPAL AFFAIRS.

The Speaker says REFERRED TO
THE MINISTER OF MUNICIPAL
AFFAIRS AND HOUSING.

[APPLAUSE]

Clark says THANKS, SPEAKER.
THANK YOU FOR THAT QUESTION.
OUR GOVERNMENT FOR THE
PEOPLE IS MOVING FORWARD
WITH SOCIAL ASSISTANCE
REFORMS THAT WILL RESTORE
DIGNITY, ENCOURAGE
EMPLOYMENT AND EMPOWER THE
PROVINCE'S MOST VULNERABLE
TO BREAK FREE FROM THE
POVERTY CYCLE.
I THINK MINISTER MACLEOD HAS
SPOKEN MANY TIMES IN THIS
HOUSE WHEN SHE PLEDGES THAT
SHE BELIEVES THE BEST SOCIAL
PROGRAM IS FOR OUR
GOVERNMENT TO BE ABLE TO
PROVIDE JOBS AND JOB
OPPORTUNITIES FOR THOSE MOST
VULNERABLE.
OUR PLAN IS EFFECTIVE.
IT'S SUSTAINABLE, AND I
THINK ON BEHALF OF MINISTER
MACLEOD THE MOST IMPORTANT
THING THAT WE CAN DO IS TO
PROVIDE THAT HOPE AND
OPPORTUNITY FOR PEOPLE AND
TO PROVIDE THAT OUTCOME THAT
I THINK SHE MOST DESPERATELY
WANTS.
YOU KNOW, AS A FIRST STEP
OUR GOVERNMENT WORKED VERY
CLOSELY WITH THE MUNICIPAL
SECTOR.

The Speaker says RESPONSE.

Clark says AND TRANSFORMATION OF OUR SYSTEM.
WE CONTINUE TO WORK WITH OUR
STAKEHOLDERS AND WE
APPRECIATE SOME OF THE
SUGGESTIONS THAT THEY HAVE.
I LOOK FORWARD TO MORE FROM
THE MEMBER.

[APPLAUSE]

The Speaker says THANK YOU.
SUPPLEMENTARY QUESTION.

Gretzky says THANK YOU.
BACK TO THE PREMIER.
ONTARIANS WITH DISABILITIES
AND THEIR FAMILIES ARE
EXTREMELY ANXIOUS ABOUT WHAT
CHANGES TO ODSP ELIGIBILITY
MIGHT MEAN.
EPP SOD IC DISABILITIES
MULTIPLE SCLEROSIS, CANCER
OR MENTAL HEALTH CONCERNS
WILL ALMOST CERTAINLY BE
EXCLUDED IF ONTARIO MOVES TO
A DEFINITION OF DISABILITY
LIKE THE CPPD.
CUTS TO ODSP ARE JUST ONE OF
THE MANY WAYS THAT THIS
CONSERVATIVE GOVERNMENT IS
HURTING PEOPLE WITH
DISABILITIES AND THEIR
FAMILIES.
NOT ONLY ARE ODSP RECIPIENTS
LIVING IN POVERTY.
THEY'RE ALSO WAITING DECADES
FOR SUPPORTIVE HOUSING.
THEY'RE LANGUISHING ON WAIT
LISTS FOR SUPPORT THROUGH
THE PASSPORT PROGRAM.
THIS GOVERNMENT IS WREAKING
HAVOC ON PEOPLE'S LIVES WITH
THEIR CARELESS AND DANGEROUS
DECISIONS.
WILL THE PREMIER BE MOVING
TOWARD A MORE EXCLUSIONARY
DEFINITION OF DISABILITY SO
FEWER PEOPLE CAN QUALIFY,
YES OR NO?

[APPLAUSE]

The Speaker says MINISTER OF
MUNICIPAL AFFAIRS AND
HOUSING.

Clark says WELL, AGAIN TO THE MEMBER
OPPOSITE, SHE MENTIONED A
NUMBER OF THINGS.
I WANT TO TAKE THE
OPPORTUNITY, GIVEN HER
REFERENCE TO SUPPORTIVE
HOUSING AND MENTAL HEALTH,
THAT THIS WEEK IS MENTAL
HEALTH WEEK IN ONTARIO AND
ALSO CHILDREN'S MENTAL
HEALTH.
WE WERE AT AN ANNOUNCEMENT
THIS MORNING WITH A NUMBER
OF MINISTERS, WITH MINISTER
ELLIOTT.
ESPECIALLY BECAUSE OF MY
PORTFOLIO IN HOUSING, VERY
MUCH WANT TO SAY TO THE MEMBER THAT SUPPORTIVE
HOUSING IS A VERY IMPORTANT
ASPECT OF THE SUPPORTS THAT
NOT JUST MY MINISTRY BY MANY
OTHER MINISTRIES PROVIDE.
THE BEST SOCIAL SAFETY NET I
THINK IS A COMPASSIONATE
SOCIETY AND I KNOW THAT WHEN
IT COMES TO SUPPORTING
PEOPLE WITH DISABILITIES
WITH DIGNITY, THE SYSTEM
REDESIGNED WANTS TO HEAR
FROM THOSE THAT ARE
PROVIDING SERVICES.
WE WANT TO USE A
WHOLE-OF-GOVERNMENT APPROACH
AMONG A NUMBER OF
MINISTRIES.
SO, YOU KNOW, I APPRECIATE
WHAT THE MEMBER HAS TO SAY.
I KNOW THAT THE MINISTER IS
RIGHT ON TOP OF THIS FILE.

The Speaker says RESPONSE.

Clark says SHE IS WORKING
COLLABORATIVELY WITH MANY OF
OUR MINISTERIAL CLEGGS...
COLLEAGUES AND I KNOW SHE'LL
HAVE MORE TO SAY IN FUTURE.

Watch: Question Period: Monday, May 6, 2019