Transcript: Question Period: Thursday, May 2, 2019 | May 03, 2019

A still camera shows the Ontario Legislature. A caption on screen reads "Oral questions."

The Speaker stands. He's is in his fifties, clean-shaven, with short light brown hair. He wears a black robe.

The Speaker says IT IS NOW TIME FOR ORAL
QUESTIONS.
I RECOGNIZE THE MEMBER FOR TIMISKAMING-COCHRANE.

[APPLAUSE]

The caption changes to "John Vanthof. NDP. Timiskaming-Cochrane."

Vanthof is in his fifties, clean-shaven, with short side-parted gray hair. He wears a gray suit, white shirt, and checkered gray tie.

He says MY QUESTION IS TO THE
PREMIER.
MR. SPEAKER, AL LEADERS
ACROSS ONTARIO HAVE BEEN
SPEAKING OUT AGAINST THE
FORD GOVERNMENT'S CUTS TO
EVERYTHING FROM CHILD CARE
TO PUBLIC HEALTH TO FLOOD
MANAGEMENT.
MINISTERS IN THE FORD
GOVERNMENT MEANWHILE INSIST
THAT THEY WANT TO HAVE A
RESPECTFUL DIALOGUE, BUT
THEY ALSO STATE THAT THE
CUTS WILL PROCEED NO MATTER
HOW RECKLESS AND POORLY
PLANNED THEY ARE.
HOW CAN THE GOVERNMENT CLAIM
TO BE HAVING A DISCUSSION
WHEN IT APPEARS THAT ALL THE
DECISIONS HAVE ALREADY BEEN
MADE?

[APPLAUSE]

The Speaker says QUESTION FOR
THE PREMIER.

Premier Ford says MINISTER OF
CHILDREN, COMMUNITY AND
SOCIAL SERVICES.

The Speaker says REFERRED TO
THE MINISTER OF...

The caption changes to "Honourable Lisa MacLeod. PC. Minister of Children, Community and Social Services."

MacLeod is in her forties, with shoulder-length, wavy blond hair. She wears a black shirt and a silver chain necklace.

She says GREAT QUESTION, PREMIER.
WILL TALK ABOUT THE
MUNICIPAL ISSUES BUT I WANT
TO TALK ABOUT WHAT THE MEMBER SAID ABOUT DIALOGUE.
WE NEED TO ADDRESS WHAT
HAPPENED ON THE LAWN
YESTERDAY.
QUITE AN EVENT TOOK PLACE.
THE N.D.P. HAD AT LEAST TWO
MEMBERS AT A PROTEST, MEMBER
FROM DAVENPORT AND MEMBER
FROM WINDSOR WEST.
AT THE SAME TIME MASS
PROTESTORS BROUGHT A
BLOODIED GUILLOTINE TO THE
GROUNDS OF QUEEN'S PARK AND
YOU KNOW WHAT THEY DID?
THEY BEHEADED AN EFFIGY OF
THE PREMIER.
THIS IS DISGUSTING AND IT IS
A SICK ACT THAT HAS BEEN
CONDONEED.

The Speaker says ORDER.

MacLeod says BY THE OPPOSITION.
I'M ASKING THE MEMBERS
OPPOSITE TO CONDEMN
YESTERDAY'S PROTESTS,
APOLOGIZE FOR THEIR
ATTENDANCE AT YESTERDAY'S
EVENT, BUT IT'S IMPORTANT TO
KNOW THAT THIS IS THE REAL
N.D.P. AND WE HAVE SEEN IT
ON THE ATTACKS AGAINST THE
MINISTER OF LABOUR'S OFFICE.

The Speaker says RESPONSE.

MacLeod says THE ACCOSTING AND
ATTACKING OF ME RESULTING IN
O.P.P. PROTECTION FOR
MEMBERS OF OUR CABINET.
THEY CARE MORE ABOUT
ACTIVISM AND PROTESTING
THAN...

[VOICE FADING]

[APPLAUSE]

The Speaker says STOP THE CLOCK.
ORDER.
WE ALL KNOW WE HAVE FREE
SPEECH IN THIS LEGISLATURE.
WE HAVE CERTAIN PRIVILEGES
AS MEMBERS OF THE
LEGISLATURE TO PARTICIPATE
IN DEBATES.
BUT THE LANGUAGE AND THE
COMMENTS HAVE TO BE
PARLIAMENTARY, CONSIDERED TO
BE PARLIAMENTARY.
I'M GOING TO CAUTION THE MEMBERS TOW OUTSET THAT THE
LANGUAGE HAS TO BE
PARLIAMENTARY OR WE WILL
QUICKLY HAVE TO GO TO
WARNINGS AND FOLLOWING THAT,
OF COURSE, THE OPTION OF
NAMING MEMBERS IS WITHIN THE
PURVIEW OF THE SPEAKER.
I'M GOING TO HAVE A QUESTION
PERIOD TODAY AND I HOPE WE
CAN HAVE A REASONABLE
DIALOGUE ON THE ISSUES
FACING THE PROVINCE.
START THE CLOCK.
SUPPLEMENTARY.

Vanthof says EARLIER THIS WEEK, THE
MAYORS OF ONTARIO'S 28
LARGEST MUNICIPALITIES
PLEADED WITH THE PROVINCE TO
REVERSE BUDGET CUTS TO CHILD
CARE, PUBLIC HEALTH, FLOOD
MANAGEMENT AND MORE.
SMALLER MUNICIPALITIES ARE
SPEAKING UP AS WELL.
THE TOWN OF PRESCOTT HAS
CALLED IN THE PROVINCE TO
STOP CUTS TO PUBLIC HEALTH
AND LIBRARY SERVICES.
THE MAYOR OF DRYDEN SAID HIS
COMMUNITY HAS BEEN TREATED
LIKE, AND I QUOTE, A
FINANCIAL PUNCHING BAG FOR
THE PROVINCE, END OF QUOTE.
THIS DOESN'T SOUND LIKE
PEOPLE OR MUNICIPALITIES WHO
FEEL RESPECTED.
WILL THE GOVERNMENT LISTEN
TO MUNICIPAL LEADERS,
REVERSE THESE CUTS AND HAVE
AN ACTUAL DISCUSSION ABOUT
HOW ONTARIANS ARE BEING
IMPACTED?

[APPLAUSE]

The Speaker says QUESTION'S
BEEN REFERRED TO THE
MINISTER OF CHILDREN
COMMUNITY AND SOCIAL
SERVICE.

MacLeod says I'D LIKE TO REFER BACK TO THE PREMIER.

The Speaker says QUESTION'S
REFERRED BACK TO THE PREMIER.

Premier Ford stands up. He's in his early fifties, clean-shaven, with short blond hair. He wears a gray suit, white shirt, and dark blue tie.

The caption changes to "Honourable Doug Ford. PC. Premier."

He says THROUGH YOU,
MR. SPEAKER, I WANT TO THANK
THE MINISTER FOR HER
COMMENTS.
YOU KNOW, MR. SPEAKER, I
NORMALLY DON'T GET CONCERNED
TOO MUCH ABOUT THE ACTIVIST
PROTESTS OUTSIDE ON THE
FRONT LAWNS OF QUEEN'S PARK,
BUT WE'RE HERE TO REPRESENT
THE REAL PEOPLE, THE REAL
PEOPLE THAT CAN'T AFFORD TO
TAKE THE DAY OFF OR CAN'T
AFFORD TO GET PAID TO GO
PROTEST.

[APPLAUSE]

Ford says THE PEOPLE THAT ARE WORKING
IN THE BACK OF THE
CLASSROOMS, THE PEOPLE THAT
ARE WORKING IN THE HOSPICES
ACROSS THIS PROVINCE TRYING
TO MAKE ENDS MEET.
THOSE ARE THE PEOPLE THAT
WE'RE HERE FOR.
BUT YESTERDAY WENT A LITTLE
TOO FAR.
MY FRIENDS, ANY TIME A
POLITICIAN, NO MATTER WHAT
PARTY IT IS, HAS A
GUILLOTINE OUT THERE, I
THINK THAT GOES A LITTLE TOO
FAR.
AS A MATTER OF FACT IT GOES
WAY OVERBOARD, MR. SPEAKER.
BUT THE DIFFERENCE IS THAT'S
WHAT THE OPPOSITION BELIEVES
IN, SUPPORTING FOLKS LIKE
THAT.

The Speaker says RESPONSE.

Ford says WE SUPPORT
THE PEOPLE THAT ARE OUT IN
THE FACTORIES AND THE
OFFICES TRYING TO MAKE ENDS
MEET, PAYING THEIR TAXES AND
WANTING SERVICES.

[APPLAUSE]

The Speaker says STOP THE CLOCK.
RESTART THE CLOCK.
FINAL SUPPLEMENTARY.

Vanthof says THE SAD FACT IS THE FORD
GOVERNMENT DOESN'T WANT TO
HEAR FROM ANYONE OTHER THAN
OBEDIENCE.
WHETHER IT'S THE ACTING
PREMIER INSISTING THAT BE
SHE'S NOT EVEN WILLING TO
CONSIDER PAUSING CUTS TO
PUBLIC HEALTH CARE.

Interjection: OR THE
PREMIER TAKING OUT HIS
FRUSTRATION.

The Speaker says ORDER.

Vanthof says ON THE MAN WHO BEAT HIM
IN TORONTO'S MAYORAL
ELECTIONS.
THE PEOPLE OF ONTARIO NEED
DIFFERENT LEVELS OF
GOVERNMENT TO WORK TOGETHER.
INSTEAD WE HAVE ONE SIDE
SCRAMBLING TO CUT EVERYTHING
FROM SCHOOL BREAKFAST TO
FLOOD PROTECTION AND THE
PREMIER SEEMS TO IGNORE
THEIR COMPLAINTS.
HOW DOES THAT HELP THE
PEOPLE OF ONTARIO?

[APPLAUSE]

The Speaker says PREMIER?

Ford says THROUGH
YOU, MR. SPEAKER.
DO YOU KNOW WHO GOT US IN
THIS POSITION, MR. SPEAKER?
THE N.D.P. PUT US IN THIS
POSITION.
THE LIBERALS PUT US IN THIS
POSITION WITH A 15 BILLION DOLLAR DEFICIT, WITH A 347 BILLION DOLLAR DEBT, LARGEST IN THE WORLD,
SUB SOVEREIGN DEBT IN THE
ENTIRE WORLD.
THAT'S WHO PUT US IN THIS
POSITION.
WE'RE DRIVING EFFICIENCIES.
WE'RE PUTTING MORE MONEY,
700 MILLION DOLLARS MORE INTO
EDUCATION.
THE MINISTER OF EDUCATION IS
DOING AN INCREDIBLE JOB.

[APPLAUSE]

Ford says THE MINISTER OF HEALTH IS
DOING AN INCREDIBLE JOB
ENDING HALLWAY HEALTH CARE
BY PUTTING 1.3 BILLION DOLLARS INTO
HEALTH CARE, MAKING SURE
THAT WE HAVE 15,000
LONG-TERM-CARE BEDS.
WE'RE WELL OVER 7,000
LONG-TERM-CARE BEDS.

[APPLAUSE]

Ford says THEY WORRY ABOUT JOBS.
AGAIN THE PEOPLE IN THE
FACTORIES I WAS SPEAKING
ABOUT EARLIER, MR. SPEAKER,
THESE PEOPLE ARE WORKING 10,
12 HOURS A DAY, A DAY TRYING
TO PAY THEIR TAXES, TRYING
TO PAY THEIR MORTGAGE.

The Speaker says RESPONSE.

Ford says TRYING TO
PUT FOOD ON THEIR TABLE.
THAT'S WHAT PEOPLE ARE
CONCERNED ABOUT.
THEY WANT THE ECONOMY TO GET
GOING AND THAT'S WHAT THIS
GOVERNMENT IS DOING BY
LOWERING TAXES, MAKING SURE
WE CREATE AN ENVIRONMENT FOR
COMPANIES TO THRIVE AND
PROSPER AND...

The Speaker says THANK YOU.

[APPLAUSE]

The Speaker says STOP THE CLOCK.
THANK YOU.
RESTART THE CLOCK.
NEXT question. The member for Brampton Centre.

The caption changes to "Sara Singh. NDP. Brampton Centre."

Singh is in her thirties, with long curly black hair. She wears a gray blazer and a white shirt.

She says THANK YOU, SPEAKER.
MY QUESTION IS FOR THE
PREMIER.
LATER TODAY THE FORD
GOVERNMENT WILL BE TABLING
LEGISLATION TO BEGIN THEIR
TAKEOVER OF TORONTO'S
TRANSIT SYSTEM, AND THE
PREMIER'S MADE IT CLEAR HIS
PLAN IS GOING AHEAD.

[APPLAUSE]

Singh says NO MATTER...

The Speaker says ORDER.

Singh says OR WHAT ANYONE ELSE IN
THIS PROVINCE HAS TO SAY
ABOUT IT.
IF THE PROVINCE HAS ALREADY
MADE UP ITS MIND, WHAT ARE
THEY HOPING TO ACCOMPLISH
WITH THEIR NEGOTIATIONS IN
THE CITY OF TORONTO THEN?

[APPLAUSE]

The Speaker says QUESTION'S
FOR THE PREMIER.

Ford says THE GREAT
MINISTER OF TRANSPORTATION.

The Speaker says MINISTER OF
TRANSPORTATION.

[APPLAUSE]

[CHEERS]

The caption changes to "Honourable Jeff Yurek. PC. Minister of Transportation."

Yurek is in his forties, clean-shaven, with thinning brown hair. He wears a gray suit, white shirt, and gray tie.

He says THANKS VERY MUCH,
MR. SPEAKER.
I THANK THE MEMBER OPPOSITE
FOR THAT QUESTION.
YOU KNOW, LAST JUNE, WE WON
AN ELECTION BASED ON THE
FACT THAT WE WOULD UPLOAD
THE TTC AND EXPAND
SERVICE FOR ALL THE PEOPLE
UTILIZING THE TTC IN THE
GTHA CREATING A REGIONAL
INTEGRATED TRANSPORTATION
NETWORK.
MR. SPEAKER, IN AUGUST WE
APPOINTED MICHAEL LINDSAY AS
OUR CHIEF SPECIAL ADVISOR TO
NEGOTIATE WITH THE CITY OF
TORONTO ON BRINGING THE
UPLOAD TOWARDS... INTO
REALITY.
AND IN FEBRUARY WE SIGNED A
TERMS OF REFERENCE,
MR. SPEAKER, THAT SETTLED
PROVISIONS OF HOW WE WILL
WORK TOGETHER WITH THE CITY
THROUGH DISCUSSIONS AND HOW
THE UPLOAD WILL GO FORWARD.
APRIL 11, MR. SPEAKER, WE
ANNOUNCED 28.5 BILLION DOLLARS EXPANSION FOR THE CITY OF
TORONTO IN THE SUBWAY
SYSTEM.
THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE
EXCITED ABOUT IT AND WE
NEED.

The Speaker says RESPONSE.

Yurek says TO SEE THAT HAPPEN,
MR. SPEAKER.
THE LEGISLATION WE'RE
TABLING TODAY WILL ENABLE
THE GOVERNMENT TO TAKE OVER
THE EXPANSION AND GROWTH OF
THE TTC NETWORK AND WE'RE
GOING TO CONTINUE THOSE
TALKS WITH THE CITY OF
TORONTO, MR. SPEAKER.

[APPLAUSE]

The Speaker says SUPPLEMENTARY.
MEMBER FOR BRAMPTON CENTRE.

Singh says SPEAKER, THE CITY OF
TORONTO HAS ACTUALLY PUT
FORWARD 61 KEY QUESTIONS
ABOUT THE FORD GOVERNMENT'S
TRANSIT PLAN, INCLUDING
BASIC REQUESTS LIKE HOW THEY
ARRIVED AT THEIR COST
ESTIMATES AND WHO WAS PAID
TO PREPARE THEM.
HAS THE PROVINCE ANSWERED
ANY OF THOSE QUESTIONS AND,
IF SO, WHEN DO THEY INTEND
TO SHARE THIS WITH THE
PUBLIC?

[APPLAUSE]

The Speaker says MINISTER?

Yurek says THANKS VERY MUCH,
MR. SPEAKER.
YOU KNOW, WE WERE CONTINUING
OUR NEGOTIATIONS WITH THE
CITY OF TORONTO.
LINDSAY MEETS ON A REGULAR
BASIS.
I HAVE CONVERSATIONS WITH
MAYOR TORY.
EVERYTHING'S BEEN POSITIVE.
I'M NOT SURE WHAT'S GOING ON
WITH THE OPPOSITION.
THEY'RE A LITTLE
INCONSISTENT IN THEIR
MESSAGING.
ON ONE HAND THEY'RE SAYING
DON'T DOWNLOAD THINGS.
NEXT TIME DON'T UPLOAD
THINGS.
NO, NO, NO TO ANYTHING THIS
GOVERNMENT DOES TOWARD
BALANCING THE BUDGET AND
DELIVERING GREAT TRANSIT...
HISTORIC TRANSIT PROJECT TO
THE CITY OF TORONTO.
MR. SPEAKER, WE ARE IN GOOD
CONVERSATIONS WITH CITY OF
TORONTO WITH REGARDS TO THE
EXPANSION.
MINISTER MCNAUGHTON,
MINISTRY OF INFRASTRUCTURE
IS IN CONSTANT TALKS WITH
THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT.
HOPEFULLY THEY'LL PUT THE
MONEY FORWARD TO SUPPORT OUR
HISTORIC EXPANSION OF THE
TRANSIT SYSTEM WITHIN THIS
PROVINCE.
WE'LL CONTINUE THE
DISCUSSIONS WITH MAYOR TORY
AND HIS STAFF.

The Speaker says RESPONSE.

Yurek says END OF THE DAY,
MR. SPEAKER, THE SYSTEM
ISN'T WORKING FOR THE RIDERS
OF THE TTC AND WE MADE A
PLEDGE TO MAKE IT BETTER,
AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE GOING
TO DO.

[APPLAUSE]

The Speaker says FINAL SUPPLEMENTARY.

Singh says SPEAKER, THE PEOPLE OF
TORONTO DESERVE TRANSIT
SOLUTIONS THAT GET THEM OUT
OF GRIDLOCK.
INSTEAD THEY HAVE A
GOVERNMENT THAT'S RIPPING UP
PLANS AND UNWILLING OR
UNABLE TO ANSWER BASIC
QUESTIONS AS THEY ATTEMPT A
HOSTILE TAKEOVER OF THE
SUBWAY SYSTEM.
INSTEAD OF PLOWING AHEAD
WITH THE STEAM THAT WILL ADD
COSTS AND DELAY TORONTO'S
TRANSIT SYSTEM, WHY WON'T
THE FORD GOVERNMENT STOP
DISMISSING CONCERNS THAT
PEOPLE ARE RAISING IN THIS
PROVINCE AND ANSWER SOME KEY
QUESTIONS ABOUT THEIR PLANS?

[APPLAUSE]

The Speaker says MINISTER OF
TRANSPORTATION.

Yurek says THANKS VERY MUCH,
MR. SPEAKER.
YOU KNOW, ON APRIL 11TH WE
ANNOUNCED THE HISTORIC
VISION THAT WE SEE FOR THE
CITY OF TORONTO AS WE MOVE
TO EXPAND TRANSIT
OPPORTUNITIES, MR. SPEAKER.
THE PEOPLE OF TORONTO HAVE
BEEN WAITING DECADES FOR THE
RELIEF LINE TO GET BUILT.
CONTINUAL BICKERING AND
RETURNING TO THE TABLE YEAR
AFTER YEAR WITH DIFFERENT
COUNCILS THAT JUST CAN'T GET
IT DONE.
THE SYSTEM ISN'T WORKING,
MR. SPEAKER.
WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO IS
UPLOAD THAT RESPONSIBILITY
TO THE PROVINCE AND WE'RE
GOING TO GET THIS JOB DONE.
WE'RE GOING TO MAKE THE
ONTARIO LINE, MR. SPEAKER,
ALL THE WAY FROM THE ONTARIO
PLACE UP TO THE ONTARIO
SCIENCE CENTRE, MR. SPEAKER.
WE'RE GOING TO BUILD SUBWAYS
INTO SCARBOROUGH.
THOSE PEOPLE HAVE BEEN
WAITING DECADES THEMSELVES
FOR A SUBWAY.
NOT JUST ONE STOP,
MR. SPEAKER, THREE STOPS AND
THAT'S WHAT THE PEOPLE
DESERVE.

[APPLAUSE]

Yurek says MR. SPEAKER, WE'RE GOING TO
EXTEND THE EGLINTON...
UNDERGROUND.

The Speaker says RESPONSE.

Yurek says ETOBICOKE HOPEFULLY JOIN
IT UP WITH THE AIRPORT.
FINALLY, MR. SPEAKER, WE'RE
GOING TO CONNECT RICHMOND
HILL AND NEWMARKET TO OUR
SUBWAY SYSTEM.
WE'RE GOING TO GET THE
ECONOMY GOING BY GETTING
PEOPLE MOVING IN THIS
PROVINCE.

[APPLAUSE]

The Speaker says NEXT question. The member for University-Rosedale.

The caption changes to "Jessica Bell. NDP. University-Rosedale."

Bell is in her late thirties, with shoulder-length wavy brown hair. She wears a blue blazer, a gray shirt, and a silver necklace.

She says THANK YOU, SPEAKER.
TODAY THE CONSERVATIVE
GOVERNMENT IS INTRODUCING
ITS BILL TO BEGIN THE
TAKEOVER OF THE TTC
DESPITE THE FACT THAT THE
PROVINCE IS STILL IN
NEGOTIATIONS WITH THE CITY
OF TORONTO REGARDING THE UPLOAD,
AND THERE ARE NUMEROUS
OUTSTANDING QUESTIONS THE
PREMIER HAS REFUSED TO
ANSWER.
MR. SPEAKER, HOW CAN THE
PREMIER CLAIM TO BE
NEGOTIATING WITH THE CITY IN
GOOD FAITH WHEN HE IS GOING
BEHIND THEIR BACKS TO PUSH
THROUGH THIS HOSTILE
TAKEOVER?

[APPLAUSE]

Interjection: DON'T
REALLY BELIEVE THAT.

The Speaker says IS SOMEONE
GOING TO RESPOND ON BEHALF
OF THE GOVERNMENT?
MINISTER OF TRANSPORTATION.

[APPLAUSE]

Yurek says THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER.
YOU KNOW, I CAN JUST
REITERATE WHAT I JUST
ANSWERED PREVIOUSLY.
WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH THE
CITY OF TORONTO SINCE
NOVEMBER WITH OUR SPECIAL
ADVISOR APPOINTED IN AUGUST
ON WORKING TOWARDS CREATING
A NEW PARTNERSHIP WITH THE
CITY OF TORONTO AND THE
PROVINCE OF ONTARIO.
WE BOTH KNOW THE CURRENT
SYSTEM ISN'T WORKING TO GET
SUBWAYS BILL IN THE IS CITY
AND WE'RE STUCK AT GRIDLOCK.
PEOPLE AREN'T UTILIZING THE
TRANSIT SYSTEM LIKE THEY
SHOULD BECAUSE IT'S NOT
OFFERING THE OPPORTUNITIES
FOR THEM TO GO FROM POINT
"A" TO POINT "B."
TO GET FROM HOME TO WORK AND
BACK HOME AND BE WITH
FRIENDS AND FAMILIES IS JUST
NOT HAPPENING, MR. SPEAKER.
IT'S UNFORTUNATE THE
OPPOSITION PARTY'S PUSHING
BACK SO HARD ON THIS WHEN
THE PEOPLE OF TORONTO, THE
PEOPLE OF THE GTHA WANT
PROPER TRANSIT AND IT'S NOT
GETTING BUILT UNFORTUNATELY
AND WE ARE ABLE TO DO IT AND
THAT'S WHY WE'RE WORKING
WITH THE CITY OF TORONTO
THROUGH OUR NEGOTIATIONS.

The Speaker says RESPONSE.

Yurek says THROUGH OUR TERMS OF
REFERENCE WE'VE PUT FORWARD
TO BUILD AND GROW THE TTC
AND CREATE THE INTEGRATED
REGIONAL NETWORK THAT THE
PEOPLE OF TORONTO AND GTHA
DESERVE.
MR. SPEAKER, YOU KNOW IT'S
GOING TO BE GREAT NEWS FOR
THE PEOPLE OF TORONTO WHEN
THIS IS DONE.

[APPLAUSE]

The Speaker says SUPPLEMENTARY QUESTION.

Bell says BACK TO THE PREMIER.
YESTERDAY THE MINISTER OF
TRANSPORTATION ADMITTED THAT
SOME OF THE WORK THE CITY
HAS ALREADY COMPLETED FOR
THE DOWNTOWN RELIEF LINE IS
NO LONGER USABLE.
THAT MEANS MILLIONS OF
DOLLARS AND MONTHS OF WORK
THAT WENT INTO THE PLANNING
AND DEVELOPING OF THAT LINE
IS ESSENTIALLY BEING THROWN
OUT AND REPLACED WITH A
BACK-OF-THE-NAPKIN PLAN
COOKED UP BY THE PREMIER.
WE ALL KNOW WHAT HAPPENS
WHEN TRANSIT PLANS ARE
RIPPED UP.
THERE'S MORE DELAYS.
THERE'S MORE UNCERTAINTY AND
IT MAKES IT EVEN LESS LIKELY
THAT TRANSIT WILL BE BUILT.
HOW ACCOUNT PREMIER JUSTIFY
THROWING OUT THE CITY'S WORK
ON THE DOWNTOWN RELIEF LINE
AND THE DELAYS AND
ADDITIONAL EXPENSES THAT ARE
THE GOING TO RESULT?

[APPLAUSE]

The Speaker says MINISTER.

Yurek says TO THE PREMIER.

The Speaker says REFERRED TO
THE PREMIER.

Ford says THROUGH YOU, MR. SPEAKER,
AND TO THE LOCAL MEMBER FROM
ROSEDALE.
WHAT AN INSULT YOU JUST GAVE
TO ALL THE BRIGHT MINDS AT
INFRASTRUCTURE ONTARIO, SOME
OF THE SMARTEST PEOPLE IN
THE WORLD SAYING "BACK OF
THE NAPKIN."
YOU KNOW THEY CAME UP WITH
THE PLAN.
LEADING THE CHARGE WAS THE
MINISTER OF TRANSPORTATION
AND M.T.O., INSULTING ALL
M.T.O., INSULTING EVERYONE
AT METROLINX.
HONESTLY, MR. SPEAKER, THAT
COULD RUN CIRCLES AROUND
ANYONE IN THE OPPOSITION
WHEN THEY TALK ABOUT TRANSIT.
PLAU THEY KNOW WHAT THEY'RE
TALKING ABOUT.
THEY KNOW WHAT A WORLD-CLASS
SUBWAY SYSTEM IS.
THEY CAME UP WITH AN
INCREDIBLE PLAN AND THE
CROWN JEWEL IS THE ONTARIO
LINE RUNNING FROM ONTARIO
PLACE, UP TO ONTARIO SCIENCE
CENTRE.
AND, MR. SPEAKER, ACTUALLY
RUNNING THROUGH.

The Speaker says RESPONSE.

Ford says A LOT OF
THE N.D.P. RIDINGS.
I'M SURE THEIR CONSTITUENTS
WOULD BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO
UTILIZE THE NEW SUBWAY
SYSTEM THAT THE MINISTER OF
TRANSPORTATION IS PUTTING IN
G.T.A.

[APPLAUSE]

The Speaker says THANK YOU.
STOP THE CLOCK.
ORDER.
RESTART THE CLOCK.
NEXT question. The member for Carleton.

[APPLAUSE]

The caption changes to "Goldie Ghamari. PC. Carleton."

Ghamari is in her thirties, with long straight black hair. She wears a black jacket over a dark floral print dress.

She says THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER.
MR. SPEAKER, MY QUESTION
IS FOR THE PREMIER OF ONTARIO.
FOR OVER A WEEK NOW WE HAVE
BEEN EXPERIENCING FLOODS IN
MANY PARTS OF THE PROVINCE
INCLUDING MY CITY OF OTTAWA.
OUR HARD-WORKING FIRST
RESPONDERS HAVE BEEN HARD AT
WORK TO PREVENT DAMAGE TO
COMMUNITIES AND HOMES IN
COORDINATION WITH OUR
EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT
PARTNERS, AND OUR GOVERNMENT
UNDERSTANDS THE IMPACT AND
SEVERITY OF THE FLOODING AND
WE TAKE THE SAFETY OF OUR
COMMUNITIES SERIOUSLY.
I KNOW THAT PEOPLE IN MY
RIDING OF CARLETON WERE
REASSURED TO SEE THE PREMIER
VISIT SEVERAL OF THE
MUNICIPALITIES CURRENTLY
UNDER A STATE OF EMERGENCY
IN ORDER TO SEE THE
CONDITIONS FIRSTHAND AND TO
ASSIST OUR HARD-WORKING
FIRST RESPONDERS WITH RELIEF
EFFORTS.
THROUGH YOU, MR. SPEAKER.
CAN THE PREMIER PLEASE
UPDATE THE HOUSE ON WHAT
MEASURES THE PROVINCE IS
TAKING TO RESPOND TO THIS
ONGOING SITUATION?

The Speaker says QUESTION'S
TO THE PREMIER.

[APPLAUSE]

Ford says WELL,
MR. SPEAKER, I WANT TO THANK
THE GREAT M.P.P. FROM
CARLETON, THE ABSOLUTE
CHAMPION.
I WAS IN CARLETON,
MR. SPEAKER.
YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT A
POPULAR M.P.P.
WHEN I WAS UP THERE, I WENT
AND VISITED A SENIORS' HOME,
AND THEY LOVE THE M.P.P.
FROM CARLETON.
INCREDIBLE JOB.

[APPLAUSE]

Ford says BUT DO YOU KNOW WHAT WE LOVE
AS WELL, MR. SPEAKER?
WE LOVE THE FIRST RESPONDERS
IN THE MILL... AND THE
MILITARY FOLKS.
LOOK AT THOSE CHAMPIONS UP
THERE.
ABSOLUTE CHAMPIONS.

[APPLAUSE]

Ford says THEY ABSOLUTELY LOVE YOU.
ONE OF THE BEST THINGS IN
THE WORLD., MR. SPEAKER, WHEN I WAS IN
OTTAWA, IT WAS LIKE THE
CAVALRY COMING OVER THE
MOUNTAIN TAN.

The Speaker says RESPONSE.

Ford says WHEN WE SAW
THE MILITARY.
THEY CAME IN.
THEY WERE SANDBAGGING
HELPING PEOPLE BECAUSE
PEOPLE IN OTTAWA WERE
EXHAUSTED.
I JUST GOT OFF THE PHONE
WITH MAYOR WATSON, MAKING
SURE AND REASSURING HIM THAT
HE HAS THE PROVINCE'S
SUPPORT ON ANYTHING HE
NEEDS...

[APPLAUSE]

The Speaker says THANK YOU.
SUPPLEMENTARY QUESTION.

Ghamari says THANK YOU TO THE PREMIER
FOR THAT RESPONSE,
MR. SPEAKER.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR KIND
WORDS AND FOR VISITING THE
CARE CENTRE.
MR. SPEAKER, UNFORTUNATELY
WHILE OUR GOVERNMENT IS HARD
AT WORK RESPONDING TO FLOODS,
THE OPPOSITION CONTINUES TO
FEAR MONGER ABOUT THE
ABILITY OF ONTARIO'S
CONSERVATION AUTHORITIES TO
RESPOND TO FLOOD EVENTS.
I'D LIKE TO READ THEM A
QUOTE FROM RHONDA BATEMAN
THE GENERAL MANAGER OF THE
SAULT STE. MARIE REGIONAL
CONSERVATION AUTHORITY...
"WE ARE NOT GOING TO CUT THE
MAINTENANCE AND FLOOD
CONTROL PROGRAMS.
THAT CAN'T BE DONE."
PERHAPS THE MEMBER FROM
THUNDER BAY WAS NOT AWARE
THAT MANAGING WATER RELATED
HAZARDS ARE PART OF THE
PROGRAMS AND SERVICES
CONSERVATION AUTHORITIES ARE
MANDATED TO PROVIDE.
ACCOUNT PREMIER PLEASE
CLARIFY OUR GOVERNMENT'S
PROPOSAL TO MAKE
CONSERVATION AUTHORITIES
MORE EFFICIENT AND
EFFECTIVE?
THANK YOU.

[APPLAUSE]

The Speaker says QUESTION'S
FOR THE PREMIER.

Ford says THROUGH
YOU, MR. SPEAKER.
AGAIN I WANT TO THANK THE
M.P.P. FROM CARLETON.
WE WENT UP... THEY'RE ALL
ALL STARS, YOU'RE RIGHT.
UNFORTUNATELY YOU DON'T HAVE
ANY.

[APPLAUSE]

[INTERJECTIONS]

Ford says THROUGH YOU, MR. SPEAKER.

The Speaker says ORDER.

Ford says THROUGH
YOU, MR. SPEAKER.
AS I MENTIONED, I TALKED TO
THE MAYOR OF OTTAWA.
HE APPRECIATES THE HELP FROM
THE SOLICITOR GENERAL, THE
MINISTER OF MUNICIPAL
AFFAIRS, THE MINISTER OF
NATURAL RESOURCES.
IT'S ALL HAND ON DECK NO
MATTER IF IT'S OTTAWA
SPEAKING TO THE MAYORAL OF
HUNTSVILLE, CHIM' GOING TO
BE HEADING UP TO HUNTSVILLE
AND BRACEBRIDGE AND SPOKE TO
THE MAYOR OF MUSKOKA LAKES.
THEY'RE SO GRATEFUL FOR OUR
SUPPORT.
WE'RE SPARING NO EXPENSE.
AS A MATTER OF FACT,
MR. SPEAKER, WE'RE PUTTING
5 MILLION ADDITIONAL
DOLLARS TO PROTECT THE
WATERSHED UP IN MUSKOKA.

The Speaker says RESPONSE.

Ford says TOMORROW,
MR. SPEAKER.

[APPLAUSE]

Ford says TO SEE FIRST HAND HOW WE'RE
PROGRESSING.
ONCE AGAIN THE FIRST
RESPONDERS AND THE GREAT
MILITARY IS UP IN MUSKOKA
WORKING THEIR BACKS OFF.
WE WANT TO THANK THEM.
THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK
YOU.

[APPLAUSE]

The Speaker says THANK YOU.
NEXT question. The member for Davenport.

The caption changes to "Marit Stiles. NDP. Davenport."

Stiles is in her forties, with feathered blond hair in a bob. She wears a black jacket and shirt.

She says THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER.
I WANT TO START BY AGAIN
ACKNOWLEDGING ALL THE
AMAZING EDUCATION WORKERS
AND STUDENTS AND PARENTS AND
TRUSTEES OF THE TORONTO
CATHOLIC SCHOOL BOARD HERE
TODAY.
MY QUESTION'S TO THE
MINISTER OF EDUCATION.
MR. SPEAKER, EDUCATIONAL
ASSISTANTS, CUSTODIANS,
CLERICAL WORKERS, LIBRARY
STAFF AND LANGUAGE
INSTRUCTORS ALL PLAY A
CRUCIAL ROLE IN SUPPORTING
ONTARIO STUDENTS AND KEEPING
OUR COMMUNITY SCHOOLS SAFE.
YET SO FAR WE HAVE AT LEAST
2,500 EDUCATION WORKER
POSITIONS IN JEOPARDY
BECAUSE OF THIS GOVERNMENT'S
CUTS TO OUR SCHOOLS, AND
THAT'S JUST THE BEGINNING,
MR. SPEAKER.
WILL THE MINISTER SET ASIDE
HER TALKING POINTS AND ADMIT
THAT THE GOVERNMENT'S
RADICAL CHANGES TO CLASS
SIZES AND CUTS TO PROGRAM.

The Speaker says ORDER.

Stiles says WILL MEAN LOST JOBS AND LESS SUPPORT FOR OUR STUDENTS?

[INTERJECTIONS].

The Speaker says ORDER.

[APPLAUSE]

The Speaker says GOVERNMENT SIDE COME TO
ORDER.
QUESTION'S TO THE MINISTER
OF EDUCATION.

The caption changes to "Honourable Lisa M. Thompson. PC. Minister of Education."

Thompson is in her forties, with chin-length wavy blond hair. She wears glasses and a black leather jacket over a black and pink shirt.

She says WELL, SPEAKER, FIRST OF
ALL I WOULD LIKE TO STAND IN
THIS HOUSE AND SINCERELY
REQUEST THE MEMBER OPPOSITE
TO ABSOLUTELY CONDEMN THE
ACTIONS OF THE PROTESTORS
YESTERDAY AFTERNOON HERE AT
QUEEN'S PARK.

[APPLAUSE]

[UNCLEAR]

Thompson says ASK HER TO STAND UP AND SHOW
SOME LEADERSHIP AND SHOW
SOME RESPECT FOR THE
INSTITUTION KNOWN AS QUEEN'S
PARK AND SHOW RESPECT FOR
THE ELECTED OFFICIALS IN
THIS HOUSE.

The Speaker says GOVERNMENT
SIDE, COME TO ORDER.

Thompson says HER ACTIONS HAVE BEEN
ABSOLUTELY DISGUSTING AND I
FEEL VERY STRONGLY THAT WE
NEED TO SEE LEADERSHIP FROM
THIS MEMBER OPPOSITE.
SHE NEEDS TO CONDEMN
YESTERDAY'S ACTIONS THAT SHE
WAS OBSERVING AND POSSIBLY
PARTICIPATING IN, AND QUITE
FRANKLY SHE NEEDS TO STAND
UP AND.

The Speaker says RESPONSE.

Thompson says TAKE RESPONSIBILITY FOR
INCENTING THIS TYPE OF
ACTIVITY.

[APPLAUSE]

The Speaker says STOP THE CLOCK.
STOP THE CLOCK.
ORDER.
RESTART THE CLOCK.
SUPPLEMENTARY QUESTION.

Stiles says THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER.
I CAN SEE THAT THE MINISTER
DOESN'T WANT TO ANSWER THE
QUESTION.
BUT I'M GOING TO GO BACK AT
HER AGAIN.

[INTERJECTIONS]

Stiles says SPEAKER...

The Speaker says ORDER.
ORDER.
MEMBER FOR DAVENPORT HAS THE
FLOOR.

Stiles says THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER.
THIS IS ABOUT MORE THAN
NUMBERS ON A BALANCE SHEET.
THIS IS ABOUT THE PROGRAM
AND THE PEOPLE WHO MAKE OUR
SCHOOLS THE ABSOLUTE HEART
OF OUR COMMUNITIES.

The Speaker says GOVERNMENT
SIDE COME TO ORDER.

Stiles says AND THE SUPPORTS THAT
HELP OUR CHILDREN LEARN AND
THRIVE.
BUT THIS GOVERNMENT'S
ACTIONS WILL REMOVE
THOUSANDS AND THOUSANDS OF
CARING ADULTS FROM SCHOOLS.

The Speaker says ORDER.

Stiles says SHUTTER PROGRAMS AND
COURSES AND LEAVE KIDS WITH
A BARE MINIMUM.
SPEAKER, SOME OF THESE
STUDENTS AND WORKERS ARE
HERE IN THE GALLERY WITH US
TODAY BECAUSE THEIR
INTERNATIONAL LANGUAGES
PROGRAM IS AT RISK.
THEY DESERVE TO KNOW.

The Speaker says ORDER.

Stiles says WILL THE MINISTER REVERSE
HER EDUCATION CUTS AND START
INVESTING IN OUR KIDS?

[APPLAUSE]

The Speaker says STOP THE CLOCK.
MEMBER FOR... MISSISSAUGA
EAST-COOKSVILLE MUST COME TO
ORDER.
THE MEMBER FOR EGLINTON-LAWRENCE MUST COME
TO ORDER.
THE MINISTER FOR CHILDREN
AND COMMUNITY AND SOCIAL
SERVICES MUST COME TO ORDER.
START THE CLOCK.
MINISTER OF EDUCATION REPLY.

Thompson says THANK YOU VERY MUCH,
MR. SPEAKER.
AND I'M SURE THIS IS YOUR
HOUSE.
I AM SURE YOU WERE
DEVASTATED TO SEE WHAT
DIFFERENT TYPE OF
PERSONALITIES HAVE BROUGHT
TO THIS INSTITUTION AND TO
THE STUDENTS THAT ARE HERE
IN THE PUBLIC GALLERIES
TODAY.
I HOPE YOU UNDERSTAND THAT
THIS IS NOT THE NORM.
THIS IS NOT THE WAY IT HAS
BEEN THE LAST...

[APPLAUSE]

Thompson says YEARS I HAVE BEEN HERE.

[UNCLEAR]

[APPLAUSE]

Thompson says BEHAVIOUR THAT'S BEEN
HAPPENING.
BUT TRUST, TRUST THAT I AM
GOING TO LEAD BY EXAMPLE.

[INTERJECTIONS]

Thompson says I SAY THIS
TO ALL OF YOU, BECAUSE WE
CARE ABOUT...

The Speaker says I'M GOING TO
ASK THE MINISTER TO MAKE HER
COMMENTS THROUGH THE CHAIR.
I'M GOING TO ASK THE MEMBER
FOR NIAGARA CENTER TO COME
TO ORDER.

Thompson says THROUGH YOU, SPEAKER, TO
THE PEOPLE IN THE AUDIENCE
TODAY IN THE PUBLIC
GALLERIES AND EVERYONE
WATCHING, WE'RE GOING TO GET
EDUCATION BACK ON TRACK.
WE KNOW EDUCATIONS ARE
ABSOLUTELY IMPERATIVE TO
ENHANCING THE LEARNING
ENVIRONMENT IN EVERY SINGLE
CLASSROOM IN ONTARIO.

The Speaker says RESPONSE.

Thompson says AND WE ARE GOING TO STAND
BY THEM AND MAKE SURE THAT
NOT ONLY THE G.S.N. WILL BE
APPROPRIATELY APPLIED TO
ENHANCE THE LEARNING
ENVIRONMENT IN THE
CLASSROOMS FOR TEACHERS AND
STUDENTS.
WE'RE GOING TO MAKE SURE...

The Speaker says THANK YOU.

[APPLAUSE]

The Speaker says STOP THE CLOCK.
NEXT QUESTION.
START THE CLOCK.
THE MEMBER FOR AURORA-OAK
RIDGES RICHMOND HILL.

[APPLAUSE]

The caption changes to "Michael Parsa. PC. Aurora-Oak Ridges-Richmond Hill."

Parsa is in his early forties, clean-shaven, with short black hair. He wears a gray suit, white shirt, and blue tie.

He says THANK YOU, SPEAKER.
MY QUESTION IS FOR THE
MINISTER OF FINANCE.
IN OUR BUDGET WE MADE IT
CLEAR THAT WE'RE PUTTING
PEOPLE FIRST.
FROM DAY ONE OUR GOVERNMENT
HAS PUT THE PEOPLE AT THE
CENTRE OF EVERY DECISION WE
MAKE.
WHETHER WE'RE PUTTING MORE
MONEY IN PEOPLE'S POCKETS BY
REDUCING LICENSING FEES,
PROVIDING RELIEF FOR CHILD
CARE EXPENSES OR GIVING A
TAX BREAK TO LOW INCOME
EARNERS, WE WILL ALWAYS
FOCUS ON DIRECTLY IMPROVING
THE LIVES OF THE PEOPLE OF
ONTARIO.
OUR PROPOSED CHANGES TO THE
ESTATE ADMINISTRATION TAX
REFLECTS THIS COMMITMENT
ONCE AGAIN.
COULD THE MINISTER PLEASE
EXPLAIN HOW OUR PROPOSED
CHANGES TO THE STATE
ADMINISTRATION TAX PUTS
PEOPLE FIRST AND PROVIDES
SUPPORT AND COMPASSION TO
ONTARIO FAMILIES AND
INDIVIDUALS.

[APPLAUSE]

The Speaker says QUESTION'S
TO THE MINISTER OF FINANCE.

The caption changes to "Honourable Victor Fedeli. Minister of Finance."

Fedeli is in his fifties, with short white hair and glasses. He wears a gray suit, white shirt and yellow tie, with a golden pin on his left lapel.

He says THANK YOU, SPEAKER.
AND TO THE MEMBER FROM
AURORA-OAK RIDGES-RICHMOND
HILL.
LAST WEEK, WE WERE PLEASED
TO JOIN THE MINISTER OF
MUNICIPAL AFFAIRS AND
HOUSING IN BROCKVILLE TO
HIGHLIGHT THE CHANGES WE'RE
PROPOSING TO THE ESTATE
ADMINISTRATION TAX.
OUR PLAN TO MAKE LIFE EASIER
AND MORE AFFORDABLE FOR THE
PEOPLE OF ONTARIO STARTS
WITH GIVING PEOPLE RELIEF.
PARTICULARLY IN TIMES OF
WORRY AND GRIEF WHEN THEY
NEED IT THE MOST.
THAT IS WHY OUR LEGISLATION,
IF PASSED, WOULD ELIMINATE
THE ESTATE TAX ON THE ESTATE
UNDER 50,000 AND PROVIDE A
TAX CUT OF 250 ON ALL
LARGER ESTATES.
OUR PROPOSED CHANGES ARE
ABOUT COMPASSION, RESPECT
FOR FAMILIES AND PUTTING
PEOPLE FIRST DURING A VERY
DIFFICULT PERIOD IN THEIR
LIVES.
WE INTEND TO PROVIDE RELIEF
FOR FAMILIES DURING THEIR
GREATEST TIME OF NEED.

The Speaker says RESPONSE.

Fedeli says THEIR GOVERNMENT SHOULD
BE WORKING FOR THEM,
ESPECIALLY AT THIS TIME, NOT
AGAINST THEM.

[APPLAUSE]

The Speaker says SUPPLEMENTARY QUESTION.

Parsa says THANK YOU, SPEAKER.
THANK YOU TO THE MINISTER
FOR HIS RESPONSE.
IT'S CLEAR THAT THIS IS A
COMPASSIONATE THING TO DO
AND THE RIGHT THING TO DO,
SPEAKER.
I COULD NOT BE MORE PROUD OF
A GOVERNMENT THAT IS
SUPPORTING PEOPLE IN THEIR
MOST DIFFICULT TIMES.
AS PART OF OUR PLAN TO PUT
PEOPLE FIRST, WE'RE ALSO
MAKING IT EASIER FOR PEOPLE
TO INTERACT AND WORK WITH
THE GOVERNMENT.
THE CURRENT REQUIREMENT FOR
FILING ESTATE TAX ARE
BURDENSOME AND UNFAIR.
OUR GOVERNMENT HAS PUT
FORWARD ANOTHER STEP TO
SUPPORT FAMILIES DEALING
WITH THE DEATH OF A LOVED
ONE.
COULD THE MINISTER PLEASE
EXPLAIN OU HOW OUR
GOVERNMENT INTEND TO MAKE IT
EASIER TO FILE ESTATE TAX.

The Speaker says MINISTER.

Fedeli says SPEAKER, WE INTEND TO
MAKE IT EASIER TO FILE THE
ESTATE TAX RETURNS BY
EXTENDING THE FILING
DEADLINES.
IF PASSED, OUR LEGISLATION
WOULD EXTEND THE FILING
DEADLINE FROM 90 DAYS TO 180
DAYS SO THAT GRIEVING
FAMILIES WILL HAVE MORE TIME
TO RESPOND TO THE DEATH OF A
LOVED ONE.
THE DEADLINE FOR FILING
AMENDMENTS TO THE RETURNS
WOULD ALSO BE EXTENDED FROM
30 DAYS TO 60 DAYS.
THE LAST THING A FAMILY
SHOULD WORRY ABOUT AFTER
LOSING A FAMILY MEMBER IS
RED TAPE AND TAXES.
UNFORTUNATELY, THAT IS
SOMETHING THE PREVIOUS
GOVERNMENT BACKED BY THE
N.D.P. JUST DID NOT
UNDERSTAND WHEN THEY CHANGED
THAT.
OUR PROPOSED CHANGES BACK
WOULD OFFER COMPASSIONATE
SUPPORT, SPEAKER, TO
FAMILIES.

The Speaker says RESPONSE.

Fedeli says DURING THESE VERY
DIFFICULT TIMES AND WE'RE
ALSO EXPLORING OPTIONS TO
INCLUDE TAX RELIEF FOR
CHARITABLE DONATIONS.
THANK YOU, SPEAKER.

[APPLAUSE]

The Speaker says NEXT question. The member for SCARBOROUGH
SOUTHWEST.

The caption changes to "Doly Begum. NDP. Scarborough Southwest."

Begum is in her late thirties, with long wavy black hair pulled back. She wears a black blazer over a white shirt.

She says THANK YOU, SPEAKER.
MY QUESTION IS TO THE
MINISTER OF EDUCATION.
YESTERDAY WE LEARNED THAT 44
MUNICIPALITIES OUT OF 47
WILL HAVE THEIR GENERAL
ALLOCATION FUND FOR CHILD
CARE CUT IN 2019.
GENERAL ALLOCATION FUNDS PAY
FOR THE DAY-TO-DAY OPERATING
COSTS OF CHILD CARE CENTRES
AND SUBSIDIES TO LOW-INCOME
FAMILIES.
WITH CHILD CARE COSTS
SPIRALING TO AS MUCH AS
20,000 A YEAR FOR SOME
FAMILIES, PARENTS ARE AT A
BREAKING POINT TRYING TO
FIND AFFORDABLE CHILD CARE.
SO WHY IS THIS GOVERNMENT
CHOOSING TO MAKE CUTS TO
CHILD CARE THAT WILL MAKE
LIFE MORE EXPENSIVE FOR
FAMILIES AND PARENTS?

[APPLAUSE]

The Speaker says MINISTER OF
EDUCATION.

Thompson says WELL ACTUALLY, SPEAKER, I
ABSOLUTELY REJECT THE
PREMISE THAT CAME FROM THE MEMBER ACROSS THE FLOOR,
BECAUSE QUITE FRANKLY WE'RE
MAKING LIFE MORE AFFORDABLE
FOR PARENTS ACROSS THIS
PROVINCE.
AND YOU KNOW WE HAVE TO MAKE
SURE PEOPLE WATCHING...
THROUGH YOU, SPEAKER, TO
EVERYONE WATCHING AND
LISTENING TODAY, THAT WHAT
THE MEMBER OPPOSITE WAS
TALKING ABOUT WAS A ONETIME
FUNDING TO CLEAN UP A
KNEE-JERK MISTAKE THAT THE
FORMER LIBERAL GOVERNMENT
MADE.
YOU KNOW, THEY INCREASED
MINIMUM WAGE BY 20 percent.
THEY REALIZED THIS
DISASTROUS IMPACTS THAT THAT
WOULD HAVE ON DAY CARES
ACROSS ONTARIO.
SO THEY HAD TO PUT A BAND-AID
ON THE GOUGE THEY MADE IN
DAY CARE THROUGH THIS 50
MILLION DOLLAR FUND.
AND SO I WANT TO SHARE WITH
YOU, SPEAKER, A QUOTE FROM
THE ASSOCIATION OF DAY CARE
OPERATORS OF ONTARIO.
FROM WHAT WE CAN TELL, THE
50 MILLION DOLLARS IN.

The Speaker says RESPONSE.

Thompson says SUPPORT WAS SIMPLY HANDED
TO MUNICIPAL GOVERNMENTS
WHICH THEN WERE LEFT TO
DEVELOP THEIR OWN SYSTEMS
FOR ADMINISTRATING IT.
NOT ONLY WAS THE FUNDING
STREAM POORLY DESIGNED BY
THE LIBERAL GOVERNMENT.
IN MANY CASES IT WAS
EXTREMELY POORLY DELIVERED
BY THE MUNICIPALITIES...

The Speaker says THANK YOU.
THANK YOU.
STOP THE CLOCK.
SUPPLEMENTARY QUESTION.
RESTART THE CLOCK.

Begum says THANK YOU, SPEAKER.
BACK TO THE MINISTER.
MINISTER, I THINK... THROUGH
THE SPEAKER, I THINK WE
AGREE ON ONE THING.
THE LIBERALS DID HAVE A LOT
OF BAND-AID SOLUTIONS BUT
YOU'RE TAKING IT EVEN WORSE.
YOU'RE TAKING IT BACK EVEN
MORE AND MAKING IT WORSE FOR
FAMILIES AND DEFINITELY NOT
MAKING IT AFFORDABLE.
THE GOVERNMENT IS ALSO
CHANGING COST SHARING
REQUIREMENTS FOR
MUNICIPALITIES AND
ELIMINATING FEE
STABILIZATION FUNDING.
ALL THESE CUTS ACTUALLY ADD
UP TO 90 MILLION DOLLARS TAKEN FROM
OUR CHILD CARE SYSTEM THIS
YEAR.
SPEAKER, THIS GOVERNMENT
PROMISED PARENTS A TAX
CREDIT THAT DOESN'T EVEN
COME CLOSE TO COVERING THE
COST OF CHILD CARE.

The Speaker says ORDER.

Begum says THEN THEY ELIMINATE THE
FUNDING THAT CONTROLS CHILD
CARE FEES.
PARENTS DESERVE SO MUCH
BETTER THAN THIS SHELL GAME.
WILL THE MINISTER COMMIT
RIGHT NOW TO REVERSING THESE
CUTS AND INSTEAD CHOOSE TO
INVEST IN OUR CHILD CARE FOR
OUR FUTURE?
THANK YOU.

[APPLAUSE]

The Speaker says MINISTER OF
EDUCATION.

Thompson says MR. SPEAKER, I WOULD LIKE
TO SHARE A LITTLE BIT OF
ADVICE TO THE MEMBER
OPPOSITE.
STOP THE FEAR MONGERING
BECAUSE YOU'RE LOSING
CREDIBILITY WITHIN THE
SECTOR, BECAUSE THE
ASSOCIATION OF DAY CARE
OPERATORS OF ONTARIO
ACTUALLY SAID...

The Speaker says ORDER.

Thompson says IT'S IMPORTANT TO PUT
THIS NEWS IN THE CONTEXT OF
THE RECENT PROVINCIAL BUDGET
ANNOUNCEMENT ABOUT THE CARE
TAX CREDIT WHICH IS GOING TO
HELP 300,000 FAMILIES.
THE CARE TAX CREDIT.

The Speaker says OPPOSITION
COME TO ORDER.

Thompson says IT'S A SIMPLER, MORE
CHILD CENTERED APPROACH TO
FUNDING THAT HELPS ALMOST
EVERY FAMILY WITH YOUNG
CHILDREN.
IT GIVES PARENTS MORE
CHOICES WITH VERY LITTLE
ADDED ADMINISTRATIVE COSTS
AND NO MUNICIPAL RED TAPE.

[APPLAUSE]

Thompson says PEOPLE LIKE WHAT WE'VE DONE.
ACCEPT IT.

The Speaker says ORDER.
NEXT question. The member for Simcoe-Grey.

The caption changes to "Jim Wilson. Independent. Simcoe-Grey."

Wilson is in his fifties, clean-shaven and bald. He wears a black suit, blue shirt, and gray tie.

He says THANK YOU.
SPEAKER, MY QUESTION'S TO
THE MINISTERR HEALTH AND
LONG-TERM CARE.
I WANT TO START BY THANKING
THE PREMIER, FINANCE
MINISTER AND THE GOVERNMENT
FOR THE SUPPORT OF BOTH THE
ALLISTON AND COLLINGWOOD
HOSPITALS IN THE RECENT
BUDGET.
FANTASTIC.

[APPLAUSE]

Wilson says AND NOTWITHSTANDING THE TWO
QUESTIONS I'M ABOUT TO ASK
YOU, WE ARE GRATEFUL.
MINISTER, AS YOU KNOW
[UNCLEAR]
IN COLLINGWOOD
CONTINUES TO WAIT FOR
OPERATIONAL FUNDING FOR FOUR
OF THEIR TEN BEDS.
THESE FOUR BEDS HAVE BEEN
SITTING IDLE AT THE
DIRECTION OF THE LHIN AND
ARE NOT ALLOWED TO BE USED
EVEN IF THE HOSPICE WANTS TO
FUND THE BEDS THEMSELVES.
MINISTER, DOES THE
GOVERNMENT HAVE ANY PLANS TO
FUND THESE EMPTY BEDS?
AND IF NOT, CAN YOU PLEASE
EXPLAIN TO MY CONSTITUENTS
WHY THAT CAN'T BE DONE AT
THIS TIME?

The Speaker says QUESTION'S
TO THE MINISTER OF HEALTH
AND LONG-TERM CARE.

The caption changes to "Honourable Christine Elliott. PC. Minister of Health and Long-Term Care."

Elliott is in her late fifties, with long blond hair. She wears a black blazer and a floral print dress.

She says I THANK THE MEMBER VERY
MUCH FOR THE QUESTION, AND I
WANT TO ASSURE THE MEMBER
AND ALL ONTARIANS THAT OUR
GOVERNMENT IS COMMITTED TO
SUPPORTING HIGH-QUALITY
PALLIATIVE AND END-OF-LIFE
CARE SERVICES FOR ANYONE IN
ONTARIO.

[APPLAUSE]

Elliott says THESE SERVICES ARE PROVIDED
BY PEOPLE ACROSS THE
PROVINCE, BOTH IN HOSPITALS,
HOSPICES, HOME AND COMMUNITY
CARE SETTINGS, LONG-TERM
CARE AND OTHER PLACES AND
THAT IS WHY WE WERE VERY
PROUD TO ANNOUNCE LAST YEAR
THAT OUR GOVERNMENT IS
INVESTING 33.6 MILLION DOLLARS TO
MOVE FORWARD WITH 193 NEW
HOSPICES ACROSS THE PROVINCE
WHICH INCLUDES OVER 20
MILLION DOLLARS ANNUALLY FOR ANNUAL
NURSING SUPPORT AND OTHER
SUPPORT SERVICES THAT ARE
REQUIRED.
SO THE SPECIFIC QUESTION
THAT YOU'VE ASKED ME ABOUT,
I UNDERSTAND IS STILL UNDER
DISCUSSION WITH THE
MINISTRY.
WE WILL CONTINUE THOSE
DISCUSSIONS, AND WE WILL
HAVE AN ANSWER FOR THE
PEOPLE OF YOUR RIDING VERY
SHORTLY.

The Speaker says THANK YOU
VERY MUCH.
SUPPLEMENTARY QUESTION.

Wilson says SPEAKER, THANK YOU VERY
MUCH TO THE MINISTER.
MINISTER MATTHEWS' HOSPICE
IN ALLISTON SENT YOU A
COST-SAVING ANALYSIS BACK IN
JANUARY TO SHOW THE OVERALL
SAVINGS THAT INVESTMENTS IN
HOSPICE CARE CAN HAVE,
PARTICULARLY WITH RESPECT TO
COMMUNITY SERVICES.
MATTHEWS HOUSE HOSPICE NOT
ONLY PROVIDES RESIDENTIAL
CARE AS YOU KNOW.
FOR PEOPLE AT END STAGES OF
LIFE, THEY ALSO PROVIDE
COMMUNITY PROGRAMS TO HELP
THOSE WHO ARE NOT ABLE TO GO
TO HOSPICE.
THIS CAN INCLUDE THINGS LIKE
PAIN AND SYMPTOM MANAGEMENT
AND EXPANDED PEDIATRIC AND
MENTAL HEALTH SUPPORTS.
THE HOSPICE WANTS TO DO
MORE.
SO WILL THE GOVERNMENT
PROVIDE THE ADDITIONAL
FUNDING SO THE HOSPITAL CAN
PROVIDE MORE COMMUNITY
SERVICES?

The Speaker says ONCE AGAIN,
MINISTER OF HEALTH.

Elliott says THANK YOU.
THERE IS NO QUESTION THAT
HOSPICE CARE OR HOME CARE
ALSO THAT CAN BE PROVIDED IN
A HOME FOR PALLIATIVE AND
END OF LIFE SERVICES IS
CERTAINLY MORE COST
EFFECTIVE THAN A STAY IN
HOSPITAL.
IT'S ALSO MORE PATIENT
CENTERED.
THAT'S WHAT WE'RE DOING WITH
OUR TRANSFORMATION, WITH OUR
MODERNIZATION OF OUR HEALTH
CARE SERVICE TO MAKE SURE
THAT WE CENTRE CARE AROUND
PATIENTS, FAMILIES AND
CAREGIVERS.
THAT'S WHAT WE WANT FOR
PEOPLE WHO ARE ENDING THEIR
LAST DAYS TO BE ABLE TO
NORTHBOUND A NONCLINICAL
CARE SETTING, HOME-LIKE
SETTING AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE
IF NOT IN THEIR OWN HOME
WITH THEIR FAMILY AND
FRIENDS AROUND THEM.
AND I WANT TO REALLY THANK
EVERYONE WHO WORKS IN OUR
HOSPICES AND THE MANY
WONDERFUL VOLUNTEERS THAT
COME FORWARD TO HELP THEM
FOR THEIR EXEMPLARY CARE.
THEY GO TO GREAT LENGTHS TO
MAKE SURE THAT PEOPLE CAN
SPEND THEIR LAST DAYS IN
COMFORT WITH THE THINGS
THEY'RE MOST FAMILIAR
SURROUNDING THEM INCLUDING
ESPECIALLY OF COURSE THEIR
FAMILIES.
SO WE WILL CONTINUE THOSE
DISCUSSIONS WITH RESPECT TO
THOSE ADDITIONAL HOSPICE
BEDS IN YOUR COMMUNITY.

[APPLAUSE]

The Speaker says THANK YOU
VERY MUCH.
THE NEXT question. The member for Mississauga-Erin Mills.

The caption changes to "Sheref Sabawy. PC. Mississauga-Erin Mills."

Sabawy is in his fifties, balding, with a mustache. He wears glasses, a gray suit, yellow shirt, and patterned brown tie.

He

[APPLAUSE]

The caption changes to "Sheref Sabawy. PC. Mississauga-Erin Mills."

Sabawy is in his fifties, balding, with a mustache. He wears glasses, a gray suit, white shirt, and striped blue tie.

He says MR. SPEAKER, MY QUESTION
IS TO THE HONOURABLE
MINISTER OF CHILDREN,
COMMUNITY AND SOCIAL
SERVICES.
WE INHERITED A BROKEN
ONTARIO AUTISM PROGRAM THAT
LEFT 23,000 CHILDREN
LANGUISHING ON A WAITING
LIST.
FURTHER 8,400 CHILDREN WERE
WAITING FOR A DIAGNOSTIC
ASSESSMENT THROUGH ONTARIO
FIVE DIAGNOSTIC HUBS.
THROUGHOUT IT ALL, I, WE
HAVE LISTENED TO FAMILIES
WHO ASKED FOR ADDITIONAL
ENHANCEMENTS AND WE WILL
CONTINUE TO LISTEN AS OUR
MOTIVATION HAS ALWAYS BEEN
TO ENSURE THAT OF CHILDREN
WITH AUTISM SERVICES SUPPORT
FROM THEIR ONTARIO
GOVERNMENT.
MR. SPEAKER, CAN THE
MINISTER PLEASE TELL THE
HOUSE HOW OUR GOVERNMENT IS
LISTENING AND ACTING TO
BETTER SUPPORT ALL CHILDREN
WITH AUTISM?

The Speaker says QUESTION'S
TO THE MINISTER OF CHILDREN,
COMMUNITY AND SOCIAL
SERVICES.

MacLeod says THANK YOU VERY MUCH,
SPEAKER.
I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU ALSO
TO THE MEMBER OPPOSITE FROM
OUR PARTY OF COURSE WHO'S
BEEN A STRONG ADVOCATE FOR
THE PEOPLE OF HIS COMMUNITY
BUT PARTICULARLY FOR
CHILDREN WITH AUTISM.
SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
SPEAKER AS YOU'RE AWARE MY
PRIMARY MOAT VAITION HAS
BEEN ALWAYS TO CLEAR THE
23,000 CHILDREN WHO ARE
LANGUISHING ON A WAIT LIST
AND GET THAT CLEAR SO THEY
CAN GET SUPPORT FROM THEIR
ONTARIO GOVERNMENT.
THREE OUT OF FOUR CHILDREN
WERE NOT RECEIVING SUPPORT.
THAT'S WHY WE DOUBLED OUR
INVESTMENT INTO THE
DIAGNOSTIC HUBS AND WE
PROVIDED CHOICE FOR WHAT
PARENTS WANT TO USE IN TERMS
OF SUPPORTS FOR THEIR
CHILDREN.
LAST NIGHT, OVER 400 PEOPLE
PARTICIPATED IN A TELEPHONE
TOWN HALL TO TELL US HOW WE
CAN BEST APPROACHED A
NEED-BASED SYSTEM WITH AN
ADDITIONAL 300 MILLION DOLLARS THAT
WAS PROVIDED TO US FROM THE
TREASURY AND BY OUR PREMIER.
WE HAVE ALSO OVER 200 PEOPLE
THAT HAVE ALREADY... SORRY,
OVER 600 PEOPLE THAT HAVE
ALREADY APPLIED TO OUR
ONLINE SURVEY AT ONTARIO
ONTARIO.CA/AUTISM.

The Speaker says RESPONSE.

MacLeod says AND NEXT WEEK I'LL BE
APPOINTING AN EXPERT PANEL
WHO WILL WORK DIRECTLY WITH
ME AND PROVIDE ADVICE ON HOW
WE CAN HAVE THE BEST ONTARIO
AUTISM PROVINCE IN THE
PROVINCE'S HISTORY.
PLAU.

The Speaker says THANK YOU.
SUPPLEMENTARY QUESTION.

Sabawy says THANK YOU, MINISTER, FOR
AFFIRMING YOUR COMMITMENT TO
LISTENING AND TAKING ACTION
TO SUPPORT FAMILIES OF
CHILDREN WITH AUTISM.
MINISTER, SINCE DAY ONE YOU
HAVE BEEN WORKING TIRELESSLY
TO SUPPORT ALL FAMILIES OF
CHILDREN AND YOUTH WITH
AUTISM.
YOUR WORK HAS REFORMED THE
ONTARIO AUTISM PROGRAM TO
PROVIDE FUNDING DIRECTLY TO
PARENTS TO CHOOSE THE
SERVICES THAT ARE RIGHT FOR
THEM.
I AM PLEASED TO KNOW THAT A
FULL LIST OF ELIGIBLE
SERVICES IS NOW AVAILABLE
ONLINE AND HAS BEEN EXPANDED
TO INCLUDE SPEECH LANGUAGE
AND OCCUPATIONAL SERVICE.
I WILL CONTINUE TO SEEK
INPUT FROM FAMILIES IN MY
RIDING OF MISSISSAUGA-ERIN
MILLS TO HELP INFORM
ADDITIONAL ENHANCEMENTS TO
THE ONTARIO AUTISM PROGRAM.
MR. SPEAKER, CAN THE
MINISTER PLEASE EXPLAIN WHY
GOVERNMENT LAUNCHES THOSE
CONSULTATIONS STARTING OFF
YESTERDAY?

[APPLAUSE]

The Speaker says MINISTER TO REPLY.

MacLeod says SPEAKER, I'M PROUD THAT
WE WERE ABLE TO NOT ONLY
INCREASE THE INVESTMENT FROM
256 MILLION DOLLARS TO 321 MILLION DOLLARS BUT THEN ADD AN ADDITIONAL
300 MILLION DOLLARS A WEEK AGO TO A
NEED-BASED SYSTEM AND
CONSULT WITH THE PEOPLE WHO
MATTERED MOST.
THAT'S MUMS AND DADS,
CLINICIANS AND THOSE WHO
WORK IN THE FIELD.
THAT'S WHY NEXT WEEK I'LL BE
APPOINTING THE EXPERT PANEL.
I'LL CONTINUE TO WORK WITH
THE MINISTER OF EDUCATION
AND MINISTER OF HEALTH AS WE
LEVERAGE A WHOLE OF
GOVERNMENT APPROACH TO
SUPPORT THOSE WITH AUTISM IN
THE PROVINCE OF ONTARIO.
LAST WEEK I WAS IN SASKATOON
WITH PROVINCIAL, FEDERAL AND
TERRITORIAL MINISTERS OF
SOCIAL SERVICES AND CHILDREN
AND I ADDED MY VOICE TO A
CALL FOR A NATIONAL AUTISM
STRATEGY BUT I'M REALLY
LOOKING FORWARD TO
ADDITIONAL TOWN HALLS.
WE DO HAVE ONE COMING UP FOR
NORTHERN AND RURAL
COMMUNITIES AS WELL AS FOR
FRANCOPHONE COMMUNITIES.
I ENCOURAGE ALL PARENTS WHO
HAVE CHILDREN ON THE
SPECTRUM TO PARTICIPATE.

The Speaker says RESPONSE.

MacLeod says IN THESE TELEPHONE TOWN
HALLS AND I INVITE ALL
M.P.P.S, REGARDLESS OF
POLITICAL AFFILIATION, TO
PARTICIPATE AS WELL WITH
THEIR OWN ROUNDTABLES.
THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER.

[APPLAUSE]

The Speaker says NEXT question. The member for Waterloo.

The caption changes to "Catherine Fife. NDP. Waterloo."

Fife is in her late forties, with straight brown hair in a bob. She wears glasses, a black leather jacket and a black shirt.

She says THANK YOU VERY MUCH,
MR. SPEAKER.
MY QUESTION'S TO THE
PREMIER.
EARLIER THIS WEEK THE
PREMIER AND MINISTER OF
FINANCE TOOK THEIR PARTISAN
ENTOURAGE DOWN TO NEW YORK
CITY, ALL EXPENSES PAID BY
THE PUBLIC.
[INTERJECTIONS]
WHEN PRESSED ABOUT THIS ISSUE,
BOTH THE PREMIER AND THE
MINISTER REFUSED TO REVEAL
WHO EXACTLY WENT ON THE TRIP
AND HOW MUCH IT ACTUALLY
COST THE PEOPLE OF ONTARIO.
IF THE PREMIER IS SO SURE
THAT HIS EXPENSES ON THIS
TRIP ARE ABOVEBOARD, WHY
DOES HE CONTINUE TO STONE
WALL THE ACTUAL MEDIA.

The Speaker says ORDER.

Fife says AND HIDE THE COSTS FROM
THIS LEGISLATURE?

[APPLAUSE]

The Speaker says QUESTION IS
TO THE PREMIER.

Ford says MINISTER OF FINANCE.

The Speaker says TO THE
MINISTER OF FINANCE.

Fedeli says THANK YOU, PREMIER, AND
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR
REPRESENTING ONTARIO SO
VERY, VERY WELL IN NEW YORK
CITY THIS WEEK.

[APPLAUSE]

Fedeli says IT WAS AN HONOUR.
IT WAS AN ABSOLUTE HONOUR TO
JOIN YOU IN NEW YORK.
I KNOW THE INVESTORS AND THE
COMPANIES WHO ARE HOPING TO
MOVE TO ONTARIO HEARD THE
POSITIVE MESSAGE THAT
ONTARIO IS OPEN FOR BUSINESS
AND OPEN FOR JOBS, THAT YOU
DELIVERED AT THE... ALL OF
THE MEETINGS THAT WE HAD.
IN FACT, SPEAKER, OVER THE
COURSE OF THE LAST TWO WEEKS,
ONTARIO, WHO HAS OUR BONDS
OUT IN THE MARKETPLACE,
BROUGHT IN 4.6 BILLION DOLLARS OF
THE 36 BILLION DOLLARS THAT WE NEED
IN OUR BONDS.

[APPLAUSE]

Fedeli says HALF OF THAT MONEY WAS IN
U.S. DOLLARS.
THIS IS A HUGE SUCCESS FOR
THE PROVINCE OF ONTARIO.
THEY ARE THRILLED WITH THE
FACT.

The Speaker says RESPONSE.

Fedeli says THAT ONTARIO IS OPEN FOR
BUSINESS, OPEN FOR JOBS.
THEY TOLD THE PREMIER AND I
THAT, THAT WE HAVEN'T HEARD
A SOLID MESSAGE LIKE THAT
FROM ONTARIO IN 15 YEARS.

[APPLAUSE]

The Speaker says RESTART THE
CLOCK.
SUPPLEMENTARY QUESTION.

Fife says THANKS VERY MUCH.
THOSE INVESTORS ALSO VALUE A
STRONG PUBLIC EDUCATION
SYSTEM AND A STRONG HEALTH
CARE SYSTEM, WHICH YOU ARE
CURRENTLY UNDERMINING.

[INTERJECTIONS].

The Speaker says GOVERNMENT
SIDE, COME TO ORDER.

Fife says THE YET UNTOLD COSTS OF
THIS TRIP ARE JUST THE
LATEST IN A PATTERN FROM
THIS PREMIER OF USING PUBLIC
DOLLARS FOR HIS PERSONAL
PRIORITIES, ALL WHILE
CLAIMING THAT THE PROVINCE
CAN'T AFFORD TO PROVIDE
ESSENTIAL SERVICES TO
ONTARIANS IN NEED.
THE PREMIER CLAIMS THAT WE
DON'T HAVE ENOUGH MONEY TO
FUND FLOOD PREVENTION IN THE
MIDST OF RECORD FLOODING,
THAT WE CAN'T KEEP TEACHERS
IN CLASSROOMS AND THAT WE
HAVE TO START CHARGING
PEOPLE FOR HEALTH CARE
COVERAGE.
BUT WHEN HE SPENDS PUBLIC
MONEY ON HIMSELF, HE THINKS
ONTARIANS DON'T DESERVE
TRANSPARENCY OR
ACCOUNTABILITY.
IF THE LIBERALS DID THIS,
YOU WOULD BE CRYING OUT LOUD.

The Speaker says ORDER.

Fife says LISTEN, YOU NEED TO OWE
THE PEOPLE OF THIS PROVINCE
THE FACTS ON THIS ISSUE.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH,
MR. SPEAKER.

[APPLAUSE]

The Speaker says GOVERNMENT
SIDE COME TO ORDER.
START THE CLOCK.
RESPONSE.
MINISTER OF FINANCE.

Fedeli says THANK YOU, SPEAKER.
SPEAKER, WE ARE BORROWING
36 MILLION DOLLARS... BILLION DOLLARS THIS
YEAR SO THAT WE CAN HAVE THE
MONEY TO PUT INTO HEALTH
CARE AND HAVE THAT MONEY TO
PUT INTO EDUCATION.
THAT'S WHY WE NEED TO
CONTINUE.
WE RAISED BETWEEN 20 AND 30 percent
OF ALL OF THAT MONEY HAD TO
COME FROM OUTSIDE OF CANADA,
SPEAKER.
AND I CAN TELL YOU THAT THEY
HEARD A MESSAGE THAT WE ARE
TRANSFORMING.
WE ARE MODERNIZING.
WE ARE DIGITIZING
GOVERNMENT.
THEY HEARD THE STORY OF HOW
YOU CAN GO ONLINE NOW AND
GET YOUR DRIVER'S LICENCE
AND GET YOUR HEALTH CARD.
THEY SAW THAT WE'RE SAVING
33.5 MILLION DOLLARS BY DOING THAT.
THEY HEARD THAT WE'RE SAVING
4 CENTS ON EVERY DOLLAR.
AS IT TURNS OUT WE'RE SAVING
ALMOST 8 CENTS ON EVERY
DOLLAR.

[APPLAUSE]

Fedeli says THEY LOVE THE FACT, THEY
ABSOLUTELY LOVE THE FACT
THAT WE'RE RETURNING 26
BILLION DOLLARS IN RELIEF TO
FAMILIES, TO CHILD CARE
PROGRAMS THROUGH LOW-INCOME
TAX INCENTIVES.

The Speaker says RESPONSE.

Fife says THEY SAID TO US THE
SITUATION IS BETTER NOW IN
ONTARIO THAN IT WAS TEN
MONTHS AGO.

[APPLAUSE]

The Speaker says ORDER.
ORDER.
MEMBER FOR WATERLOO COME TO
ORDER.
RESTART THE CLOCK.
NEXT question. The member for Niagara West.

The caption changes to "Sam Oosterhoff. PC. Niagara West."

Oosterhoff is in his early twenties, clean-shaven, with short brown hair. He wears glasses, a gray suit, white shirt, and black tie.

He says THANK YOU, SPEAKER.
MY QUESTION IS FOR THE
MINISTER OF ENVIRONMENT,
CONSERVATION AND PARKS.
SPEAKER, DESPITE THE PEOPLE
OF CANADA MAKING IT CLEAR IN
MULTIPLE PROVINCIAL
ELECTIONS THAT THEY CAN'T
AFFORD MORE NEW TAXES, THE
FEDERAL GOVERNMENT MOVED
AHEAD WITH THE TRUDEAU
CARBON TAX, A TAX THAT'S
GOING TO RAISE THE COST OF
EVERYTHING.
THE TRUDEAU LIBERALS MAY
CLAIM THEIR NEW TAX WILL IN
TURN PUT MORE MONEY BACK IN
PEOPLE'S POCKETS.
SPEAKER, LET'S BE VERY
FRANK.
ANYONE WHO TRIES TO SAY
TAKING A TAX WILL PUT MORE
MONEY IN YOUR POCKET SHOULD
HAVE YOU THINKING TWICE.
IT'S BEEN A FULL MONTH SINCE
THE IMPOSITION OF THE
TRUDEAU CARBON TAX.
I'M WONDERING IF THE
MINISTER WHAT THE TRUE COST
OF THE TRUDEAU CARBON TAX
IS?

The Speaker says MINISTER OF
THE ENVIRONMENT,
CONSERVATION AND PARKS.

[APPLAUSE]

The caption changes to "Honourable Rod Phillips. PC. Minister of the Environment, Conservation and Parks."

Phillips is in his early fifties, clean-shaven, with short gray hair. He wears a gray suit, white shirt and blue tie.

He says MR. SPEAKER, THROUGH YOU
TO THE MEMBER FROM NIAGARA
WEST.
THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION
AND THANK YOU FOR THE GREAT
WORK YOU DO REPRESENTING
YOUR CONSTITUENTS.

[APPLAUSE]

Phillips says MR. SPEAKER, THE FEDERAL
LIBERALS HAVE GONE TO GREAT
EXTENT TO SAY TWO THINGS AND
TO TRY AND CONVINCE
ONTARIANS OF TWO THINGS.
ONE IS THAT THE ONLY WAY TO
FIGHT CLIMATE CHANGE IS WITH
A CARBON TAX AND WE KNOW
THAT OUR MADE-IN-ONTARIO
CLIMATE PLAN PROVES THAT
THAT IS NOT TRUE.
THE SECOND IS THAT A CARBON
TAX WILL MAKE PEOPLE BETTER
OFF FINANCIALLY.
MR. SPEAKER, WE LEARNED SOME
MORE ABOUT THAT THIS WEEK.
THE FEDERAL PARLIAMENTARY
BUDGET OFFICER CONFIRMED,
MR. SPEAKER, THAT THE
TRUDEAU CARBON TAX WILL TAKE
6.2 BILLION DOLLARS OUT OF THE
POCKETS OF THE PEOPLE OF
CANADA AND, MR. SPEAKER,
CONFIRMED THAT 90 percent OF THAT
IS GOING TO COME FROM
INDIVIDUALS, FROM FAMILIES,
NOT FROM BIG POLLUTERS.

The Speaker says RESPONSE.

Phillips says MR. SPEAKER, THE P.B.O.
IN HIS INTERVIEW WHEN ASKED
HOW DO WE KNOW MONEY WILL GO
BACK TO THE PEOPLE OF THE
PROVINCES?
HE SAID WE JUST HAVE TO
TRUST THE LIBERALS.
MR. SPEAKER, THIS IS A PARTY
IN OTTAWA THAT PROMISED THE
BUDGET WOULD BE BALANCED BY
THIS YEAR, MR. SPEAKER.
THERE'S 18 BILLION DOLLARS REASONS
NOT TO...

The Speaker says THANK YOU.

[APPLAUSE]

The Speaker says SUPPLEMENTARY.

Oosterhoff says THANK YOU, SPEAKER.
LISTEN, SPEAKER.
MANY OF MY CONSTITUENTS
ALREADY STRUGGLE DAY TO DAY
WITH THE COST OF LIVING EVEN
BEFORE THIS TAX CAME INTO
EFFECT.
NOW IT'S GOING TO BE EVEN
HARDERED FOR THEM TO MAKE
ENDS MEET.
THIS TAX JECH DIESS THE
FUTURE OF OUR ECONOMY AND
OUR FAMILIES' PROSPERITY.
I AM HAPPY TO BE PART OF A
TEAM THAT PUTS THE PEOPLE OF
ONTARIO FIRST WITH EVERY
DECISION THAT WE MAKE.
SPEAKER, MY QUESTION TO THE
MINISTER IS WHETHER OR NOT
THIS TAX IS GOING TO HIT OUR
FAMILIES WHERE IT HURTS THE
MOST.
WE SEE ALREADY THE COST OF
GAS IS RISING, THE COST OF
HOME HEATING COST OF FOOD.
SPEAKER, COULD YOU EXPLAIN
TO THE PEOPLE OF ONTARIO HOW
MUCH THIS CARBON TAX WILL
REALLY COST THEM?

[APPLAUSE]

The Speaker says MINISTER TO REPLY.

Phillips says MR. SPEAKER, I THANK THE MEMBER FOR HIS QUESTION.
LET'S BE CLEAR.
THE CARBON TAX WILL THE
RAISE THE COST OF
EVERYTHING.
MR. SPEAKER, THE
PARLIAMENTARY BUDGET
OFFICER... AND I'M QUOTING
HIM HERE AND WANT TO GET IT
RIGHT.
CONFIRMED A LOT OF THE
BURDEN IS GOING TO FALL ON
FINAL CONSUMERS AND
HOUSEHOLDS, MR. SPEAKER.
09 percent OF THE BURDEN.
MR. SPEAKER, FAMILIES AND
SENIORS ON FIXED INCOMES
WILL HAVE TO PAY MORE TO
HEAT THEIR HOMES.
WE'VE ALREADY TALKED ABOUT
27 MILLION DOLLARS OF COSTS FOR
HOSPITALS, 20 MILLION DOLLARS FOR
COLLEGES AND UNIVERSITIES,
3.4 MILLION DOLLARS FOR SECURITY
SERVICES LIKE THE O.P.P. AND
THE PEOPLE WHO SUPPORT IT.
MR. SPEAKER, ONTARIO DOESN'T
NEED THE TRUDEAU CARBON TAX.
WE HAVE A MADE-IN-ONTARIO
PLAN WILL MAKE SURE WE HIT
THE TARGETS THE PRIME
MINISTER SET.
WE'RE AT 22 percent REDUCTION
EMISSIONS NOW.
WE'LL GET TO 30 percent AND WE'LL
GET THERE WITHOUT JUSTIN
TRUDEAU'S CARBON TAX.

[APPLAUSE]

The Speaker says NEXT question. The member for London West.

The caption changes to "Peggy Sattler. NDP. London West."

Sattler is in her late fifties, with short wavy blond hair in a bob. She wears glasses and a printed dark green blazer over a black dress.

She says THANK YOU, SPEAKER.
MY QUESTION IS TO THE
MINISTER OF HEALTH AND
LONG-TERM CARE.
SPEAKER, THIS WEEK THE
MINISTER SAID THAT WHEN HER
GOVERNMENT REMOVES
OUT-OF-COUNTRY OHIP COVER,
ONTARIANS SHOULD SIMPLY GET
THEIR OWN INSURANCE.
SHE STATED THIS CAN BE
PURCHASED VERY INPECKS ENS...
INEXPENSIVELY TO COVER
MEDICAL NEEDS.
CATHY DUVALL LIVES IN LONDON
WEST AND CONTACTED ME TO SAY
THAT SHE CAN'T GET PRIVATE
INSURANCE.
SHE HAS RENAL FAILURE AND
LIKE MANY PEOPLE WITH
CHRONIC KIDNEY DISEASE SHE
REQUIRES HAEMODIALYSIS THREE
DAYS A WEEK.
SHE SAYS THERE ARE NO
INSURANCE COMPANIES IN
ONTARIO THAT PROVIDE
COVERAGE FOR HAEMODIALYSIS
BECAUSE OF A PRE-EXISTING
CONDITION.
SPEAKER, WHY IS THE MINISTER
FORCING CATHY AND OTHERS
LIKE HER TO PAY ENTIRELY OUT
OF POCKET FOR HEALTH CARE
SERVICES IF THEY MUST TRAVEL
OUT OF COUNTRY?

[APPLAUSE]

The Speaker says QUESTION'S
FOR THE MINISTER OF HEALTH
AND LONG-TERM CARE.

Elliott says THANK YOU.
I CERTAINLY AM VERY SORRY TO
HEAR ABOUT CATHY'S
SITUATION.
HOWEVER I THINK IT'S ALSO
IMPORTANT TO BE HONEST WITH
THE PEOPLE OF ONTARIO ABOUT
WHAT THIS PROGRAM FIRST OF
ALL COSTS AND THE LEVEL OF
COVERAGE THEY WOULD BE
GETTING.
THIS IS A PROGRAM A THIRD OF
THE COST OF THE PROGRAM WAS
SPENT ON ADMINISTRATION.
THAT'S NOT GOOD VALUE FOR
TAXPAYERS.
THAT'S NOT GOOD VALUE FOR
ANYBODY IN ONTARIO.
THE OTHER ISSUE TO BE
CONSIDERED HERE IS THIS POOR
WOMAN HAS A SIGNIFICANT
CONDITION THAT SHE WOULD
ONLY RECEIVE UNDER THE
EXISTING PROGRAM 400 IN
COVERAGE.
IF SHE HAD A SIGNIFICANT
ISSUE WHILE SHE WAS OUT OF
THE COUNTRY.

The Speaker says ORDER.

Elliott says SHE WOULD HAVE THOUSANDS
MORE IN COVERAGE NCOSTS THAT
WOULD NOT BE COVERED.
SO IT IS REALLY IMPORTANT
THAT WE SPEAK HONESTLY TO
PEOPLE OF ONTARIO.

The Speaker says ORDER.

Elliott says BUT WHAT WOULD HAVE BEEN
COVERED AND WOULD NOT HAVE
BEEN COVERED.
400.

The Speaker says RESPONSE.

Elliott says IS NOTHING COMPARED TO
THE COSTS THAT THIS WOMAN
COULD RECEIVE IF SHE WERE
HAVING TO BE TREATED OUTSIDE
OF THE COUNTRY.

[APPLAUSE]

The Speaker says THE MEMBER
FOR WINDSOR WEST, COME TO
ORDER.
SUPPLEMENTARY QUESTION.

Sattler says THANK YOU, SPEAKER.
REFUSING TO REIMBURSE
OUT-OF-COUNTRY DIALYSIS
CREATES YET ANOTHER HARDSHIP
FOR PEOPLE WITH KIDNEY
DISEASE WHO ARE STRUGGLING
TO MAINTAIN SOME SEMBLANCE
OF NORMAL LIFE.
THE KIDNEY FOUNDATION OF
CANADA SAYS THAT ELIMINATING
OUT-OF-COUNTRY OHIP CLAIMS
WILL LITERALLY HANDCUFF
DIALYSIS PATIENTS TO THEIR
MACHINES PREVENTING THEM
FROM TRAVELLING FOR PERSONAL,
PROFESSIONAL OR EMERGENCY
REASONS.
SPEAKER, THE CANADA HEALTH
ACT GUARANTEES THAT EVERY
ONTARIANS YANN SHOULD HAVE
ACCESS TO PUBLICLY FUNDED
HEALTH CARE WHETHER THEY ARE
AT HOME OR TEMPORARILY
OUTSIDE OF CANADA.
WILL THE MINISTER ABANDON
HER CALLOUS PLAN TO DENY
OHIP COMFORTABLE TO
ONTARIANS WHEN THEY TRAVEL
OUT OF COUNTRY?

[APPLAUSE]

The Speaker says GOVERNMENT
SIDE COME TO ORDER.
MINISTER TO REPLY.

Elliott says THANK YOU.
WELL, MR. SPEAKER, THROUGH
YOU I WOULD SAY TO THE MEMBER OPPOSITE WE NEED TO
BE REALISTIC ABOUT THIS
SITUATION.
IF SOMEONE HAS A DIALYSIS
ISSUE THEY NEED TO RECEIVE
DIALYSIS TREATMENT SEVERAL
TIMES A WEEK.
IT IS DIFFICULT FOR THEM TO
TRAVEL IN ANY EVENT.
AND THE COVERAGE THAT THEY
WOULD RECEIVE WOULD BE UNDER
THIS EXISTING PROGRAM WOULD
BE NOTHING COMPARED TO THE
COST IT WOULD ACTUALLY COST
THEM.
WE HAVE TO BE HONEST WITH
PEOPLE OF ONTARIO NOT GIVE
THEM FALSE HOPE WHEN THEY
TRAVEL THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE
EVERY SINGLE COST COVERED
WHEN IT'S ONLY 400.
TO SOMEONE WITH SIGNIFICANT
RENAL PROBLEMS NEEDING
DIALYSIS, THERE'S A REAL
CONCERN THERE MIGHT BE
SOMETHING THAT GOES WRONG
WHEN THEY'RE TRAVELLING.
IT'S DIFFICULT TO TRAVEL AND
DO DIALYSIS, I ACKNOWLEDGE
THAT.
BUT TO SUGGEST THAT 400 IS
GOING TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE
AND ALLOW THEM TO TRAVEL,
THAT IS GIVING PEOPLE
ABSOLUTE FALSE HOPE.

The Speaker says RESPONSE.

Elliott says AND I AM NOT GOING TO.

The Speaker says ORDER.

Elliott says I HAVE A RESPONSIBILITY
AS MINISTER OF HEALTH AND
LONG-TERM CARE AND I WOULD
FULFIL MY RESPONSIBILITY TO
THE PEOPLE OF ONTARIO.

The Speaker says STOP THE CLOCK.
ORDER.
RESTART THE CLOCK.
THE NEXT question. The member for Kitchener South-Hespeler.

The caption changes to "Amy Fee. PC. Kitchener South-Hespeler."

Fee is in her late thirties, with shoulder-length straight blond hair. She wears glasses and a black leather jacket.

She says THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER.
MY QUESTION IS FOR THE
MINISTER OF GOVERNMENT AND
CONSUMER SERVICES.
THIS PAST TUESDAY, THE
MINISTER ANNOUNCED OUR
GOVERNMENT'S DIGITAL PLAN
FOR SIMPLER, FASTER BETTER
SERVICES.
THE GOAL OF THIS PLAN, HE
EXPLAINED, IS TO MODERNIZE
GOVERNMENT SERVICES TO
IMPROVE SERVICE DELIVERY.
I KNOW, MR. SPEAKER, THAT
THE CONSTITUENTS IN MY
RIDING OF KITCHENER
SOUTH-HESPELER ARE VERY
HAPPY TO HEAR THIS.
MANY OF MY CONSTITUENTS HAVE
HAD TO DEAL WITH DELAYS IN
BIRTH CERTIFICATE PROCESSING
OR HAVE COMPLAINED ABOUT HOW
SERVICES ARE AVAILABLE
ONLINE.
OUR GOVERNMENT IS DEDICATED
TO PUTTING PEOPLE BACK AT
THE CENTRE OF EVERYTHING
THAT WE DO, AND I KNOW THAT
THIS ACT WILL DO JUST THAT.
MR. SPEAKER, COULD THE
MINISTER UPDATE THIS HOUSE
ON HOW THIS PLAN WILL
IMPROVE SERVICE DELIVERY FOR
ALL ONTARIANS?

[APPLAUSE]

The Speaker says MINISTER OF
GOVERNMENT AND CONSUMER
SERVICES.

The caption changes to "Honourable Bill Walker. PC. Minister of Government and Consumer Services."

Walker is in his forties, clean-shaven, with short gray hair. He wears glasses, a tan suit, blue shirt, and patterned gray tie, as well as a golden pin on his lapel.

He says THANK YOU VERY MUCH,
MR. SPEAKER.
I WANT TO THANK MY
HONOURABLE COLLEAGUE AMY FEE
FOR HER GREAT WORK ON BEHALF
OF HER CONSTITUENTS AND FOR
THIS QUESTION.

[APPLAUSE]

Walker says ONTARIANS ARE USED TO
BANKING AND SHOPPING ONLINE,
MAKING RESTAURANT
RESERVATIONS AND BUYING
MOVIE TICKETS ON OUR PHONES.
BUSINESS RECOGNIZED LONG AGO
THAT BRINGING SERVICES
ONLINE BETTER MEETS CUSTOMER
NEEDS.
UNFORTUNATELY THIS IS NOT
THE CASE FOR ONTARIO.
FOR FAR TOO LONG OUT OF DATE
OVERLY BUREAUCRATIC
PROCESSES REDUCED QUALITY OF
SERVICES DELIVERED TO THE
PEOPLE OF ONTARIO.
AS PART OF OUR 2019 BUDGET,
OUR GOVERNMENT INTRODUCED A
SIMPLER FASTER BETTER
SERVICES ACT THAT, IF PASSED,
WOULD SIGNIFICANTLY IMPROVE
HOW GOVERNMENT WORKS, ITS
DIGITAL OUTLOOKS AND
SERVICES IT DELIVERS TO THE
SERVICES OF PEOPLE OF
ONTARIO.
DOES NOT MEAN DIGITAL ONLY.
WE'RE EXPANDING ACCESS TO
MEET PEOPLE'S EXPECTATIONS
FOR SERVICE DELIVERY ACROSS
THE PROVINCE.
MR. SPEAKER...

The Speaker says RESPONSE.

Walker says LIVING IN THE DIGITAL AGE
FOR A WHILE NOW.
IT'S ABOUT TIME OUR
GOVERNMENT DID THE SAME.

[APPLAUSE]

The Speaker says SUPPLEMENTARY QUESTION.

Fee says THANK YOU, SPEAKER.
AND THANK YOU TO THE
MINISTER.
I'M CERTAINLY LOOKING
FORWARD TO VOTING IN FAVOUR
OF THE SIMPLER FASTER BETTER
SERVICES ACT AND I KNOW MY
CONSTITUENTS ARE VERY
EXCITED TO SEE THAT THE
PROVINCIAL GOVERNMENT
SERVICES WILL ACTUALLY ENTER
THE 21ST CENTURY.

Interjection: FINALLY.

Fee says AS THE MINISTER
RIGHTFULLY SAID, FAR TOO
MANY ONTARIANS ARE
INCONVENIENCED BY THE LACK
OF ONLINE SERVICES.
I KNOW MANY OF MY
CONSTITUENTS FIND IT HARD TO
TRAVEL IN PERSON TO SERVICE
ONTARIO LOCATIONS WHEN THEY
NEED TO RENEW A DRIVER'S
LICENCE, HEALTH CARD OR
REGISTER A NEW BUSINESS.
I'M SURE THE MINISTER WOULD
AGREE THAT BY MODERNIZING
THE WAY GOVERNMENT DELIVERS
THESE NECESSARY SERVICES,
ONTARIO WILL NOT ONLY MAKE
LIFE EASIER BUT MAKE BETTER
USE OF GOVERNMENT RESOURCES
AND TALENT, AS WELL AS
STRENGTHENING OUR COMMITMENT
TO MAKING ONTARIO OPEN FOR
BUSINESS.
MR. SPEAKER, COULD THE
MINISTER PROVIDE THE
LEGISLATURE WITH MORE
DETAILS ABOUT THE PLAN?
PLAU.

The Speaker says MINISTER TO REPLY.

Walker says THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER.
THE MEMBER AND I ARE IN
STRONG AGREEMENT ON THIS
TOPIC.
THE LEGISLATION INTRODUCED
WOULD, IF PASSED, PROMOTE
BECOMING DIGITAL FIRST IN
THREE WAYS.
FIRST IT WOULD ENABLE
ADOPTION OF DIGITAL PRACTICE
ACROSS GOVERNMENT, IMPROVING
ALL DIGITAL PLATFORMS TO
INCREASE ONLINE USE FOR
SERVICE ONTARIO'S TOP TEN
TRANSACTIONS.
IT WOULD ELIMINATE OUTDATED
PROCESSES THAT PREVENT THE
DELIVERY OF PEOPLE-CENTERED
SERVICES.
THIS INCLUDES THE BADLY
OUTDATED PROCESSES WITHIN
SERVICE ONTARIO.
FINALLY THIS LEGISLATION
WILL ASK TO UNLOCK HIGH
VALUE DATA WHILE PROTECTING
ONTARIANS' PRIVACY TO
INCREASE ECONOMIC GROWTH AND
PROSPERITY FOR THE PEOPLE
ANT BUSINESSES OF ONTARIO.
AND TO REASSURE THOSE WITH
POOR INTERNET CONNECTIONS OR
WHO PREFER VISITING SERVICE
ONTARIO IN PERSON I WANT TO
SAY AGAIN DIGITAL FIRST DOES
NOT MEAN DIGITAL ONLY.
OUR PLAN WAS TO PROTECT
BRICKS AND MORTAR LOCATIONS
AND FREE UP STAFF TALENTS
NEEDED MOST.

The Speaker says RESPONSE.

Walker says TWENTIETH CENTURY IN
2019.
OUR GOVERNMENT, THE FORD
GOVERNMENT, IS BRINGING
GOVERNMENT INTO THE 21ST
CENTURY.

Interjection: GOOD
ANSWER.

[APPLAUSE]

The Speaker says THANK YOU.
THE NEXT question. The member for THUNDER BAY-ATIKOKAN.

The caption changes to "Judith Monteith-Farrell. NDP. Thunder Bay-Atikokan."

Monteith-Farrell is in her fifties, with short brown hair with blond highlights. She wears glasses, a black cardigan and a blue blouse.

She says THANK YOU, SPEAKER.
MY QUESTION IS FOR THE
PREMIER.
ANOTHER DAY AND ANOTHER
DECISION BY THIS GOVERNMENT
TO CREATE BUSINESS
UNCERTAINTY.
THE 50 MILLION TREES PROGRAM
WAS ABRUPTLY CANCELLED LAST
MONTH.
THE OWNER OF MILTON FOREST
SERVICE IN TIMMINS, JENNY
MILSON, WROTE TO US TO SAY
THAT THE PROGRAM'S
CANCELLATION HAS HURT HER
BUSINESS.
IT HAS CAUSED HER TO LOSE
ORDERS FOR HUNDREDS OF
THOUSANDS OF TREES.
SHE HAS TALKED TO SOME OF
THE OTHER GROWERS AND
THEY'RE ALL IN THE SAME
BOAT.
MILLIONS OF TREES WILL BE
DUMPED AND BUSINESSES WILL
LOSE SIGNIFICANT REVENUE,
NOT TO MENTION THE LOST
OPPORTUNITY TO GROW OUR
FOREST.
PREMIER, WHY ARE YOU
THROWING JENNY AND OTHER
BUSINESS OWNERS LIKE HER
INTO CHAOS?

[APPLAUSE]

The Speaker says QUESTION'S
TO THE PREMIER.

Ford says THROUGH YOU,
MR. SPEAKER.
TALK ABOUT UNCERTAINTY.
WE'RE GIVING BUSINESSES
CERTAINTY.
WE'RE GIVING THE FOREST
INDUSTRY, THE BEST STEWARDS
OF THE ENVIRONMENT, THE
OPPORTUNITY AND THE SUPPORT
TO PLANT 67 MILLION TREES.
BUT DO YOU KNOW WHY WE'RE
DOING THIS?
I'M LOOKING UP IN THE
STANDS.

The Speaker says ORDER.

Ford says AT ALL THESE YOUNG PEOPLE
BEHIND ME.
MY FRIENDS, GO BACK AND ASK
YOUR PARENTS.
THEY'RE WORKING HARD IN AN
OFFICE.
THEY'RE WORKING HARD IN A
FACTORY.
THEY'RE ACTUALLY PAYING
THEIR TAXES TRYING TO PUT
FOOD ON THEIR TABLES, TRYING
TO PUT THEIR KIDS THROUGH
EDUCATION.
MR. SPEAKER, THAT'S WHY
WE'RE DOING IT.
WE'RE DOING IT FOR THE YOUNG
PEOPLE UP THERE THAT WANT
THEIR PARENTS TO PROSPER.
THEY WANT PARENTS.

[APPLAUSE]

Ford says TO HAVE MORE MONEY IN THEIR POCKETS.
WE'RE PROTECTING EACH AND
EVERY FAMILY HERE AND BEHIND
ME...

[APPLAUSE]

The Speaker says RESPONSE.

Ford says THEIR PARENTS...

[VOICE FADING]

The Speaker says STOP THE CLOCK.
STOP THE CLOCK.

[APPLAUSE]

[CHEERS]

The Speaker says I THINK IT'S
A GOOD TIME TO REMIND ALL
MEMBERS TO MAKE YOUR
COMMENTS THROUGH THE CHAIR.
START THE CLOCK.
SUPPLEMENTARY.

Monteith-Farrell says THANK YOU, SPEAKER.
THIS QUESTION IS TO THE
PREMIER.
YOUR DECISION TO CANCEL THE
50 MILLION TREES PROGRAM
WILL RESULT IN BUSINESSES
LOSING MONEY AND MILLIONS OF
TREE SEEDLINGS GOING TO
WASTE.
WHAT THE YOUNG PEOPLE OF
THIS PROVINCE NEED IS AN
ENVIRONMENT THAT WILL
SUSTAIN THEM IN THE FUTURE.

[APPLAUSE]

Monteith-Farrell says THE GOVERNMENT CONTINUES TO
CAUSE BUSINESS UNCERTAINTY
IN SPITE OF HOW MUCH THEY
PAT THEMSELVES ON THE BACK.
WILL THE PREMIER REVERSE
THIS BAD DECISION AND STOP
HURTING SMALL BUSINESSES AND
THE ENVIRONMENT?

[APPLAUSE]

The Speaker says MEMBERSS
PLEASE TAKE THEIR SEATS.
PREMIER TO REPLY.

Ford says MINISTER OF
INFRASTRUCTURE.

The Speaker says REFERRED TO
THE MINISTER OF
INFRASTRUCTURE.

[APPLAUSE]

The caption changes to "Honourable Monte McNaughton. PC. Minister of Infrastructure."

McNaughton is in his late thirties, clean-shaven, with receding short brown hair. He wears glasses, a gray suit, white shirt, and striped burgundy tie.

He says THANK YOU VERY MUCH,
MR. SPEAKER.
YOU KNOW, HERE WE ARE ONCE
AGAIN ANOTHER QUESTION
PERIOD.
ALMOST EVERY QUESTION THAT
THE N.D.P. ASKS IS A
QUESTION DEFENDING THE
LEGACY OF THE LIBERAL
GOVERNMENT UNDER KATHLEEN
WYNNE.
IT'S QUITE ASTONISHING,
MR. SPEAKER.

The Speaker says ORDER.

McNaughton says LET'SING CLEAR.
THE FORESTRY INDUSTRY IN THE
PROVINCE OF ONTARIO PLANTS
68 MILLION TREES EVERY
SINGLE YEAR IN THE PROVINCE
OF ONTARIO.
AND, MR. SPEAKER, I KNOW
THIS ISN'T AN ISSUE THE
N.D.P. CARE ABOUT.
AS THE PREMIER SAID WE HAVE
LOTS OF YOUNG CHILDREN IN
THE LEGISLATURE TODAY.
NOW WHAT WE CARE ABOUT,
MR. SPEAKER?
WE CARE ABOUT THEIR FUTURE.

[APPLAUSE]

McNaughton says WE CARE ABOUT.

The Speaker says RESPONSE.

McNaughton says CLEANING UP THE FINANCIAL
MESS LEFT BY THE N.D.P. AND
THE LIBERALS.
THAT 15 BILLION DOLLARS DEBT,
MR. SPEAKER, WE'RE NOT GOING
TO PUT THE DEBT ON THE BACKS
OF THE YOUNG PEOPLE OF THIS
PROVINCE.

[APPLAUSE]

The Speaker says STOP THE CLOCK.
ORDER.
ORDER.
THE HOUSE WILL COME TO
ORDER.
START THE CLOCK.
THE NEXT question. The member for STORMONT-DUNDAS-SOUTH-
GLENGARRY.

The caption changes to "Jim McDonnell. PC. Stormont-Dundas-South Glengarry."

McDonnell is in his sixties, clean-shaven, with short side-parted white hair. He wears a black suit, blue shirt, and burgundy tie.

He says THANK YOU, SPEAKER.
MR. SPEAKER, MY QUESTION IS
TO THE MINISTER OF
AGRICULTURE, FOOD AND RURAL
AFFAIRS.
AGRICULTURE PLAY AS VITAL
ROLE IN ONTARIO'S ECONOMY AS
WELL AS OUR NEIGHBOUR
QUEBEC.
THE FACT... IN FACT ONTARIO
AND QUEBEC ACCOUNT FOR OVER
ONE THIRD, 36 percent OF CANADA'S
GROSS FARM INCOME.
I WAS PLEASED TO HEAR THAT
MINISTER HARDEMAN AND
QUEBEC'S MINISTER OF
AGRICULTURE FISHERIES AND
FOOD, MINISTER LAFONTAINE,
MET WITH THEEAL CANADA TO
TOUR SOME OF THE VENDORS
THAT PRODUCE THE BEST FOOD
IN OUR PROVINCE.
AG LARGEST FOOD INNOVATION
TRADE SHOW AND PROVIDED AN
EXCELLENT VENUE TO DISCUSS
THE OPPORTUNITIES FOR
ENHANCED COLLABORATION
BETWEEN ONTARIO AND QUEBEC
AGRICULTURE AND FOOD SECTOR.
COULD THE MINISTER PLEASE
SHARE WITH THE HOUSE MORE
DETAILS ABOUT THE
OPPORTUNITIES FOR INNOVATION
DISCUSSED?

The Speaker says MINISTER OF
AGRICULTURE, FOOD AND RURAL
AFFAIRS.

The caption changes to "Honourable Ernie Hardeman. PC. Minister of Agriculture, Food and Rural Affairs."

Hardeman is in his sixties, clean-shaven, with short gray hair. He wears glasses, a dark blue suit, white shirt, and gray tie.

He says THANK YOU VERY MUCH,
MR. SPEAKER.
I WANT TO THANK THE MEMBER
FROM STORMONT-DUNDAS-SOUTH-
GLENGARRY FOR THAT EXCELLENT
QUESTION.
TO OUR GOVERNMENT'S
OPEN-FOR-BUSINESS ACTION
PLAN AND QUEBEC'S OWN
BUSINESS ACTION PLAN, BOTH
PROVINCES HAVE COMMITTED TO
REDUCING RED TAPE.
WE ARE WORKING HARD TO
ENSURE THAT AGRI-FOOD
BUSINESSES AREN'T SPENDING
LONG HOURS NAVIGATING
OUTDATED, DUPLICATED AND
UNNECESSARY REGULATIONS.
WE ALSO RECOGNIZE OUR SHARE
OF RESPONSIBILITY FOR PLANT
AND ANIMAL HEALTH EMERGENCY
MANAGEMENT.
AMIDST MANY GLOBAL CONCERNS
AND THREATS.
THESE ARE TOP PRIORITIES FOR
BOTH OUR GOVERNMENTS.
WE WILL ALSO ENSURE THAT THE
FEDERAL GOVERNMENT DELIVERS
ON ITS PROMISE TO FULL AND
FAIR COMPENSATION TO
ALLEVIATE THE IMPACT OF THE
CUSMA ON THE SUPPLY-MANAGED
SECTORS.

The Speaker says RESPONSE.

Hardeman says I LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING
WITH THE QUEBEC MINISTER TO
ADVANCE OUR SHARED INTEREST
AND PRIORITIES FOR A
SUCCESSFUL AND THRIVING
AGRICULTURE SECTOR.

[APPLAUSE]

The Speaker says THANK YOU.
SUPPLEMENTARY.

McDonnell says THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER.
THANK YOU TO THE MINISTER
FOR THE ANSWER.
I APPRECIATE ALL THE HARD
WORK THAT HE'S BEEN DOING ON
BEHALF OF ONTARIO'S FARMERS.
I'M PLEASED TO BE PART OF A
GOVERNMENT COMMITTED TO
WORKING WITH NEIGHBOURING
JURISDICTIONS TO ADVANCE OUR
AGRICULTURE AND FOOD SECTORS.
STRONG AGRICULTURE AND FOOD
SECTORS CREATE JOBS,
INCREASE INVESTMENT AND
ENSURE OUR RURAL COMMUNITIES
REMAIN A GREAT PLACE TO LIVE,
WORK AND TO RAISE A FAMILY.
WORKING TOGETHER AS PARTNERS,
WE HAVE A REAL OPPORTUNITY
TO GROW AGRICULTURE AND FOOD
IN THIS PROVINCE AND IN BOTH
ONTARIO AND QUEBEC BOTH
DOMESTICALLY AND
INTERNATIONALLY.
CAN THE MINISTER PLEASE TELL
US WHAT OUR GOVERNMENT IS
DOING TO STRENGTHEN OUR
RELATIONSHIP TO CREATE
GOOD-PAYING JOBS IN BOTH
PROVINCES?

[APPLAUSE]

The Speaker says MINISTER.

Hardeman says THANK YOU AGAIN, SPEAKER.
I THANK THE MEMBER FOR THE
SUPPLEMENTARY QUESTION.
I WILL BE MEETING WITH
MINISTER LAMONTAGNE ONCE
AGAIN IN QUEBEC THIS JULY
FOR THE ANNUAL FEDERAL
PROVINCIAL TERRITORIAL
AGRICULTURAL MINISTERS'
MEETING.
THIS WILL PROVIDE AN
EXCELLENT OPPORTUNITY TO
BUILD ON THE SUCCESS OF OUR
MEETINGS AT SIAL.
WE WILL WORK TOGETHER TO
MAKE SURE OUR FEDERAL
GOVERNMENT AND COUNTERPARTS
ACROSS THE COUNTRY ARE AWARE
OF OUR SHARED PRIORITIES.
SUPPORTING OUR SUPPLY
MANAGED INDUSTRIES,
ADDRESSING AGRICULTURE'S
UNIQUE LABOUR NEEDS AND
CREATING FARMER-FRIENDLY
BUSINESS ENVIRONMENT ARE ALL
THE PRIORITIES WE SHARE AND
WILL CONTINUE TO ADVOCATE
FOR.
I'M PROUD OF THE WORK OUR
GOVERNMENT HAS DONE SO FAR
AND WE WILL CONTINUE TO WORK
WITH OUR PROVINCIAL PARTNERS
TO ENSURE AGRI BUSINESSES
REMAIN VIABLE, ENNO VAIFBL
AND COMPETITIVE ON THE WORLD
STAGE.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR the question.

Watch: Question Period: Thursday, May 2, 2019