Transcript: Question Period: Wednesday, May 1, 2019 | May 02, 2019

A still camera shows the Ontario Legislature. A caption on screen reads "Oral questions."

The Speaker stands. He's is in his fifties, clean-shaven, with short light brown hair. He wears a black robe.

The Speaker says IT IS NOW TIME FOR ORAL
QUESTIONS.
I RECOGNIZE THE LEADER OF
THE OFFICIAL OPPOSITION.

The caption changes to "Andrea Horwath. NDP. Leader of Her Majesty's Loyal Opposition."

Horwath is in her fifties, with straight blond hair in a bob. She wears a burgundy blazer over a black shirt, and a silver pendant necklace.

She says THANK YOU
VERY MUCH, MR. SPEAKER.
SPEAKER, BEFORE I BEGIN I
THINK IT'S IMPORTANT JUST TO
THANK THE ENVIRONMENTAL
COMMISSIONER, DIANE SAKS,
IRWIN AND FRENCH LANGUAGE
COMMISSIONER FOR ALL OF THE
WORK THEY'VE DONE OVER THE
MANY YEARS...

[APPLAUSE]

[UNCLEAR]

Horwath says SPEAKER,
MY FIRST QUESTION IS TO THE
PREMIER.
YESTERDAY THE MAYORS OF 28
OF ONTARIO'S LARGEST CITIES
ISSUED A STATEMENT
DENOUNCING WHAT THEY CALL A
STEALTH CAMPAIGN OF CUTS
AFFECTING EVERYTHING FROM
PUBLIC HEALTH TO POLICING TO
FLOOD MANAGEMENT TO CHILD
CARE.
THE FORD GOVERNMENT HAS
SPENT THE LAST MONTHS
DENYING THAT KEYS... THESE
CUTS ARE EVEN HAPPENING.
IS THE PREMIER SAYING THAT
THESE 28 MAYORS ARE WRONG
AND HE'S RIGHT?

[APPLAUSE]

The Speaker says THE
QUESTION'S FOR THE PREMIER.

Premier Ford says SOLICITOR GENERAL.

The Speaker says REFERRED TO
THE SOLICITOR GENERAL.

The caption changes to "Honourable Sylvia Jones. PC. Solicitor General."

Jones is in her sixties, with wavy blond hair to her shoulders. She wears glasses and a purple tailored suit.

She says THANK YOU, SPEAKER.
YOU KNOW, WHILE THE MEMBER
OPPOSITE AND THE LEADER OF
THE N.D.P. CAN CHOOSE TO
KEEP REPEATING THINGS THAT
FRANKLY WE DO NOT SUBSCRIBE
TO IN OUR PARTY AND IN OUR
GOVERNMENT, WE ARE GOING TO
CONTINUE TO ACTIVELY WORK
AND ENGAGE OUR MUNICIPAL
PARTNERS.
AS YOU KNOW, WE MEET WITH...
MINISTERS OF THE CROWN MEET
WITH AMO AT LEAST ONCE A
MONTH, OFTEN MORE THAN THAT,
TO TALK ABOUT THE CHANGES
THAT WE ARE MAKING TO
INITIATE CONVERSATIONS THAT
ENSURE THAT WHAT PEOPLE WANT
TO PROTECT AND WHAT MATTERS
MOST TO ONTARIO RESIDENTS IS
LOOKED AFTER BY ALL LEVELS
OF GOVERNMENT, WHETHER THAT
HAPPENS AT THE FEDERAL,
PROVINCIAL OR MUNICIPAL, WE
ALL HAVE A RESPONSIBILITY TO
ENSURE THAT THE DOLLARS THAT
ARE SPENT, COLLECTED.

The Speaker says RESPONSE.

Jones says WHEN WE COLLECT
TAXPAYERS' DOLLARS END UP
BEING THE MOST EFFICIENT AND
ENSURING THE HEALTH AND
SAFETY OF OUR RESIDENTS MUCH
THAT'S WHAT WE DO AND WE
WORK WITH OUR MUNICIPAL
PARTNERS AND THAT'S WHAT WE
WILL CONTINUE TO DO.

[APPLAUSE]

The Speaker says THANK YOU.
SUPPLEMENTARY.

Horwath says SEEMS TO
ME THE GOVERNMENT HAS A
PRETTY TWISTED IDEA OF WHAT
PARTNERSHIP MEANS, SPEAKER.
THE PREMIER CAN HAVE HIS
MINISTERS DENY HIS RECKLESS
CUTS, BUT NO ONE BELIEVES
THEM ANY MORE, ESPECIALLY
WHEN 28 MAYORS REPRESENTING
67 percent OF THE PROVINCE'S
POPULATION SAY THAT THESE
CUTS WILL HAVE A DEVASTATING
IMPACT.
THEY'VE ASKED THE PREMIER,
AT THE VERY LEAST, TO DELAY
THE CUTS SO THAT THEY CAN
ACTUALLY PLAN INSTEAD OF
REELING AS THE FORD
GOVERNMENT LURCHES FROM ONE
STEALTH CUT TO THE NEXT.
IS THE PREMIER WILLING TO
CONSIDER THAT REQUEST?

[APPLAUSE]

The Speaker says REFERRED TO
THE SOLICITOR GENERAL.

Jones says MINISTER OF MUNICIPAL
AFFAIRS AND HOUSING, SPEAKER.

[APPLAUSE]

The caption changes to "Honourable Steve Clark. PC. Minister of Municipal Affairs and Housing."

Clark is in his fifties, clean-shaven and bald. He wears rounded glasses, a gray suit, blue shirt and patterned gray tie.

He says SPEAKER.
THANKS, SPEAKER.
THROUGH YOU TO THE LEADER OF
THE OPPOSITION.
I SPOKE TO MAYOR KEN GUTHRIE
FROM GUE WE OF THIS MORNING.
ES... GUELPH THIS MORNING.
HE'S THE CHAIR OF THE LARGE
URBAN MAYORS COMMITTEE OR
LUMCO.
WE HAD A VERY GOOD CHAT AND
I'M SURE IT'S A CONVERSATION
WE ARE GOING TO CONTINUE.
AS THE SOLICITOR GENERAL
OUTLINED IN THE FIRST PART
OF THE QUESTION, WE HAVE A
FRAMEWORK OF CONSULTATION
WITH THE ASSOCIATION OF
MUNICIPALITIES OF ONTARIO.
LUMCO HAS A SEAT AT THAT
TABLE AND IT'S A
CONFIDENTIAL PROCESS.
SO WHILE I'M NOT GOING TO
BETRAY THE CONFIDENTIALITY
OF SOME OF OUR DISCUSSIONS,
SOME OF THE DISCUSSIONS
WE'VE HAD WITH MINISTERS AND
AMO AND THEIR AFFILIATES,
WE'VE HAD A VERY GOOD
CONVERSATION.
THE MEMBER IS RIGHT.
THE SOLICITOR GENERAL IS
RIGHT.

The Speaker says RESPONSE.

Clark says WE DO MEET ON A MONTHLY
BASIS.
THERE ARE OTHER MEETINGS
THAT TAKE PLACE.
IF THERE WAS AN EMERGING AND
IMPORTANT ITEM AND, SUFFICE
IT TO SAY I HAD A VERY GOOD
CONVERSATION WITH MAYOR
GUTHRIE.
LOOK FORWARD TO CONTINUE TO
ENGAGE.

[APPLAUSE]

The Speaker says THANK YOU.
FINAL SUPPLEMENTARY.

Horwath says I'M SURE
WHAT THE MINISTER CALLED A
CHAT THE OTHER PERSON IN THE
CONVERSATION IS CALLING
SOMETHING COMPLETELY
DIFFERENT.
NONETHELESS THE PREMIER'S
CUTS ARE HITTING
MUNICIPALITIES, AND THESE
ARE SERVICES THAT FAMILIES
ACROSS OUR PROVINCE RELY ON,
SPEAKER.
ONLY THE FORD GOVERNMENT
COULD CUT FLOOD MANAGEMENT
IN THE MIDST OF
UNPRECEDENTED FLOODING, CUT
IMMUNIZATION PROGRAMS JUST
AS HEALTH EXPERTS ARE
WARNING OF A MEASLES
OUTBREAK, OR CUT PUBLIC
HEALTH WHILE THEY CLAIM TO
BE TACKLING HALLWAY
MEDICINE.
AND THEN HAVE THE BRASS, THE
BRASS TO CLAIM THAT THEY
WEREN'T DOING IT.

[INTERJECTIONS].

The Speaker says SIDE, COME
TO ORDER.

Horwath says DOCTORS,
NURSES, SCIENTISTS AND TENS
OF THOUSANDS OF AVERAGE
CITIZENS WHO SAY THESE CUTS
ARE DANGEROUS AND ABSOLUTELY
INDEFENSIBLE.
WHY IS THE PREMIER SO
CERTAIN THAT ALL OF THESE
PEOPLE ARE WRONG AND HE
ALONE IS RIGHT?

The Speaker says THE
QUESTION'S BEEN REFERRED TO
THE MINISTER OF MUNICIPAL
AFFAIRS AND HOUSING.

Clark says THANKS AGAIN, SPEAKER.
WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO
HAVE CONVERSATIONS WITH
ONTARIO'S LARGE URBAN
MAYORS.
WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO
ENGAGE THE ASSOCIATION OF
MUNICIPALITIES OF ONTARIO.
UNLIKE THE PREVIOUS
GOVERNMENT THAT EXPANDED
THAT CONSULTATION TO EVERY
COUPLE OF MONTHS, WE MEET
WITH THEM EVERY MONTH.
WE GIVE THEM A DOOR TO BE
OPEN.

[APPLAUSE]

Clark says AND I FIND IT QUITE FRANKLY
PRETTY RICH FROM THE LEADER
OF THE OPPOSITION, WHO HAS
SUPPORTED THE LIBERAL
GOVERNMENT.
THEY WERE SPENDING 40
MILLION DOLLARS A DAY MORE THAN THEY
WERE TAKING IN.
WE WERE SADDLED WITH A
TREMENDOUS DEFICIT THAT I
HAVE TO SAY OUR BUDGET THAT
MINISTER FEDELI HAS TABLED
WAS PROTECTING THE THINGS
THAT MATTER MOST TO
ONTARIANS IS A RESPONSIBLE
PLAN.
WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO
ENGAGE OUR MUNICIPAL
PARTNERS.
WE'RE GOING TO LISTEN TO
THEM.
WE'RE GOING TO WORK WITH
THEM.

The Speaker says RESPONSE.

[APPLAUSE]

Clark says THAT THE LEADER OF THE
OPPOSITION SEEMS TO THINK
SHE KNOWS THE CONVERSATION
BETWEEN MAYOR GUTHRIE AND I
THIS MORNING.
I FIND THAT VERY, VERY
STRANGE.

[APPLAUSE]

The Speaker says THE NEXT QUESTION.
AGAIN THE LEADER OF THE
OFFICIAL OPPOSITION.

Horwath says QUESTION'S ALSO... ALSO FOR
THE PREMIER BUT I'VE GOT TO
SAY IS PRETTY RICH IS THAT
THIS GOVERNMENT AND THESE
MINISTERS DON'T REMEMBER
WHEN THEY WERE IN OPPOSITION,
TRYING TO SUPPORT
MUNICIPALITIES TO OVERCOME
THE DOWNLOADING OF THE LAST
TIME...

[APPLAUSE]

Horwath says GOVERNMENT WAS IN OFFICE
UNDER MR. HARRIS.
IT'S QUITE RICH, SPEAKER.
ANYWAYS, THE QUESTION IS TO
THE PREMIER.

The Speaker says ORDER.
GOVERNMENT SIDE COME TO
ORDER.

Horwath says MAYOR OF
TORONTO, INSISTING THAT
THE...

[INTERJECTIONS].

The Speaker says STOP THE CLOCK.
MEMBER FOR KING-VAUGHAN WILL
COME TO ORDER.
MEMBER FOR SAULT STE. MARIE
WILL COME TO ORDER.
RESTART THE CLOCK.
LEADER OF THE OPPOSITION.
I APOLOGIZE.

Horwath says YESTERDAY
THE PREMIER WROTE TO THE
MAYOR OF TORONTO INSISTING
THAT THE FORD GOVERNMENT
BUDGET CUTS TO PUBLIC HEALTH
WON'T IMPACT THE PROGRAMS
PUBLIC HEALTH PROVIDES.
THE CHIEF MEDICAL OFFICER OF
HEALTH, THE ONTARIO MEDICAL
ASSOCIATION, DOCTORS, NURSES,
SCHOOL BOARDS AND OF COURSE
THE MAYOR HIMSELF DISAGREE,
SPEAKER.
DOES ANYONE WHO DOESN'T WORK
FOR THE PREMIER SUPPORT HIS
VIEW?

[APPLAUSE]

The Speaker says QUESTION'S
TO THE PREMIER.

Premier Ford stands up. He's in his early fifties, clean-shaven, with short blond hair. He wears a gray suit, white shirt, and gray plaid tie.

The caption changes to "Honourable Doug Ford. PC. Premier."

He says THROUGH YOU,
MR. SPEAKER, WE ACTUALLY
MADE OUR RESPONSE PUBLIC TO
THE MAYOR OF TORONTO.
I FIND IT IRONIC I SPENT
FOUR YEARS DOWN THERE, AND
THE PRESENT MAYOR HASN'T
FOUND A SINGLE PENNY OF
EFFICIENCIES IN OVER A 13
BILLION DOLLAR BUDGET.
THEY HAVE A FLEET OF CARS
DOWN THERE, 10 MILLION DOLLARS AND
THEY'RE STILL GETTING PAID
FOR THEIR CARS.
THEY'RE GETTING MILLIONS OF
DOLLARS TO ACTUALLY GO OUT
AND WATER DEAD TREES.
THEY TELL ME THERE ISN'T
EFFICIENCY BEING FOUND.
BY THE WAY IT'S .024 OF A
PERCENT.
THEY CAN'T FIND THAT,
MR. SPEAKER, IN A BUDGET.
WE HAVE SERIOUS PROBLEMS AT
THE CITY OF TORONTO.
ALL THEY KNOW HOW TO DO AT
THE CITY OF TORONTO IS TAX
PEOPLE, SPEND THEIR MONEY,
NOT FIND EID FISHSIES.
THEY DON'T CARE ABOUT THE
TAXPAYER'S MONEY AT THE CITY
OF TORONTO.
WE DO CARE.

The Speaker says RESPONSE.

Ford says ABOUT THE
TAXPAYERS' MONEY.
WE'RE STILL SPLITTING THE
EXPENSE 50-50.
THAT'S PRETTY GOOD IF YOU
ASK ME, MR. SPEAKER.

[APPLAUSE]

The Speaker says MEMBERS PLEASE TAKE THEIR
SEATS.
START THE CLOCK.

Horwath says WHAT I
SEE AS PRETTY IRONIC,
SPEAKER, IS THE PREMIER
OBVIOUSLY WANTS TO BE THERE
OVER IN THE CITY OF TORONTO,
BUT FOR SOME REASON HE'S
HERE.
THAT'S WHAT'S IRONIC,
SPEAKER.
THE PREMIER SIMPLY CANNOT
HAVE IT BOTH WAYS.

The Speaker says ORDER.

Horwath says WHEN YOU
CUT FUNDING TO PUBLIC
HEALTH...

The Speaker says STOP THE CLOCK.
THE MEMBER FOR MARKHAM
STOUFFVILLE WILL COME TO
ORDER.
THE MEMBER FOR MISSISSAUGA
EAST-COOKSVILLE CAN COME TO
ORDER.
I CAN HEAR WHAT YOU'RE
SAYING.
YOU DON'T HAVE TO YELL
ACROSS THE FLOOR.
IF THE WE TOOK A POLL OF OUR
VISITORS, I'M NOT SURE HOW
MANY WOULD BE IMPRESSED BY
THE BEHAVIOUR FROM SOME
MEMBERS.
LET'S THINK ABOUT THAT.
START THE CLOCK AGAIN.
I APOLOGIZE TO THE LEADER OF
THE OPPOSITION.

Horwath says THE
PREMIER CAN'T HAVE IT BOTH
WAYS, SPEAKER.
WHEN YOU CUT FUNDING TO
VITAL HEALTH SERVICES, YOU
CAN'T PRETEND THAT THOSE
SERVICES WON'T SUFFER.
AND THEY'RE VITAL SERVICES
THAT KEEP US HEALTHY AND OUT
OF HOSPITALS WHETHER IT'S
IMMUNIZATION OR SCHOOL
BREAKFAST PROGRAMS.
THAT'S THE FACT.
IT KEEPS US HEALTHY AND OUT
OF OUR HOSPITALS.
IS THE PREMIER SERIOUSLY
ARGUING THAT HE CAN HIT
PUBLIC HEALTH WITH
RETROACTIVE BUDGET CUTS BUT
THAT PUBLIC HEALTH WON'T
SUFFER?

[APPLAUSE]

The Speaker says PREMIER?

Ford says THROUGH YOU,
MR. SPEAKER.
WHAT THE LEADER OF THE
OPPOSITION DOESN'T SAY IS
OVER THE PAST 10 YEARS
TORONTO PUBLIC HEALTH HAS
RUN A CUMULATIVE SURPLUS OF
52 MILLION DOLLARS.
THAT'S 52 MILLION DOLLARS WITH A
SURPLUS NEARLY 12 MILLION DOLLARS IN 2011.
WHERE'S THE MONEY?
WHERE'S THAT MONEY,
MR. SPEAKER?
LET'S TALK ABOUT THE 20
BILLION DOLLARS OUR GOVERNMENT HAS
TAKEN AND GIVEN TO THE CITY
OF TORONTO BY UPLOADING THE
BACKLOG REPAIRS FOR THE TTC...

[APPLAUSE]

Ford says WHERE'S THAT TWENTY...

[APPLAUSE]

Ford says I DON'T HEAR THE MAYOR
TALKING ABOUT THE 27
BILLION DOLLAR INVESTMENT WE'RE
PUTTING INTO TRANSIT.
IT'S ALL RIGHT TO TALK ABOUT
AGAIN .024 percent, LESS THAN
ONE-THIRD OF A PERCENT.

The Speaker says RESPONSE.

Ford says THAT THEY
CAN'T FIND EFFICIENCIES.
WELL, THROUGH YOU,
MR. SPEAKER, THEY NEED TO
WAKE UP, SMELL THE COFFEE
AND START DRIVING
EFFICIENCIES FOR THE
TAXPAYERS OF THIS CITY.
WE ARE.

[APPLAUSE]

The Speaker says MEMBERS TAKE
THEIR SEATS.
ORDER.
RESTART THE CLOCK.
FINAL SUPPLEMENTARY.

Horwath says SPEAKER,
THE LAST TIME THE
CONSERVATIVES TRIED
EFFICIENCIES WE ENDED UP
WITH WALKERTON AND THAT'S
CERTAINLY NOT SOMETHING WE
WANT TO HAVE AGAIN IN THE
PROVINCE OF ONTARIO.
THAT'S SOMETHING THE PREMIER
NEEDS TO THINK B.HE NEEDS TO
THINK ABOUT...

[INTERJECTIONS].

The Speaker says STOP THE CLOCK.
ORDER.
ORDER.
ORDER.
IF THIS CONTINUES, I WILL
START WARNING MEMBERS.
IF I HAVE TO WARN THEM, THE
NEXT TIME, THEY WILL BE
NAMED.
WE'RE GOING TO HAVE ORDER
HERE.
MINISTER OF INFRASTRUCTURE
WILL COME TO ORDER.
RESTART THE CLOCK.
AGAIN, I APOLOGIZE TO THE
LEADER OF THE OPPOSITION.

Horwath says THANK YOU,
SPEAKER.
IN NEIGHBOURHOODS AND
COMMUNITIES ACROSS ONTARIO,
PUBLIC HEALTH UNITS ARE
PROVIDING VITAL SERVICES
THAT KEEP US ALL HEALTHY.
I'VE SAID IT ONCE AND I'M
GOING TO KEEP SAYING IT
BECAUSE IT'S THE TRUTH.
PROGRAMS LIKE BREAKFAST
PROGRAMS.
SCHOOL IMMUNIZATIONS.
DENTAL CLINICS WHERE, IN MY
OWN COMMUNITY, OVER 50 percent OF
KIDS IN GRADE 2 HAVE CAVITYS
IN THEIR MOUTH THAT WERE
UNTREATED.
LONG-TERM CARE CENTRES.
DOCTORS, NURSES, MAYORS FROM
ACROSS ONTARIO OF EVERY
POLITICAL STRIPE, SPEAKER,
HAVE TOLD THE PREMIER THAT
THESE CUTS PUT ALL OF THESE
SERVICES IN ALL OF THESE
COMMUNITIES AT RISK.
AT WHAT POINT WILL THE
PREMIER REALIZE THAT ALL OF
THE BLUS TERRITORY AND
DENIALS WON'T CHANGE THE
FACT THAT HIS RECKLESS CUTS
WILL DO SERIOUS, SERIOUS
DAMAGE AND THAT IT'S
ACTUALLY TIME TO REVERSE
DIRECTION AND STOP THE CUTS
FROM HAPPENING?

[APPLAUSE]

The Speaker says QUESTION.
PREMIER.

Ford says SOLICITOR GENERAL.

Jones says THANK YOU, SPEAKER.

[APPLAUSE]

Jones says HEADLINES AND CONTINUE
TO REPEAT RHETORIC THAT
FRANKLY HAS NO VALIDITY.
WHILE WE PROTECT WHAT
MATTERS MOST.
I WANT TO TALK ABOUT SOME OF
THE INVESTMENTS THAT OUR
DEPUTY PREMIER AND MINISTER
OF HEALTH HAVE ALREADY MADE
AS A GOVERNMENT.
A COMMITMENT OF ANTICIPATE
ADDITIONAL 15,000
LONG-TERM-CARE BEDS, HALF OF
WHICH WE'VE ALREADY
ANNOUNCED AND WE'RE NOT EVEN
A YEAR IN.

[APPLAUSE]

[UNCLEAR]

Jones says 100,000 LOW-INCOME SENIORS
FOR FREE DENTAL CARE.
384 MILLION DOLLARS ADDITIONAL
FUNDING IN HOSPITAL
OPERATIONAL FUNDING, 27
MILLION DOLLARS OVER TEN YEARS FOR
HOSPITAL INFRASTRUCTURE.
YOU KNOW, SPEAKER, I COULD
GO ON AND ON, BUT I'M
FOCUSING AND OUR GOVERNMENT
IS FOCUSING ON WHAT MATTERS
MOST, AND WE WILL STOP THE
INAPPROPRIATE SPENDING.

The Speaker says RESPONSE.

Jones says SPENDING LIKE, FOR
EXAMPLE, WATERING DEAD TREE
STUMPS.

[APPLAUSE]

The Speaker says THE NEXT QUESTION.
THE NEXT QUESTION.
THE LEADER OF THE
OPPOSITION.

Horwath says PREMIER.
EARLIER TODAY, THE...
EARLIER TODAY, THE FORD
GOVERNMENT ANNOUNCED THEIR
INTENTION TO START...

The Speaker says STOP THE CLOCK.
THE MEMBER FOR SAULT STE.
MARIE IS WARNED.
I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S A
CONFIDENCE VOTE LATER ON
TODAY OR NOT.
APOLOGIZE AGAIN TO THE
LEADER OF THE OPPOSITION.
START THE CLOCK.
EARLIER TODAY THE FORD
GOVERNMENT ANNOUNCED THEIR
INTENTION TO START A HOSTILE
TAKEOVER OF TORONTO'S
TRANSIT SYSTEM.

[LAUGHTER]

Jones says THE PROVINCE IS STILL
SUPPOSEDLY AT THE
NEGOTIATING TABLE WITH
THE...

The Speaker says APOLOGIZE.
MEMBER FOR KING-VAUGHAN IS
WARNED.
RESTART THE CLOCK.
LEADER OF THE OPPOSITION.

Horwath says THE
PROVINCE IS SUPPOSEDLY STILL
AT THE NEGOTIATING TABLE
WITH THE CITY OF TORONTO ON
THIS MATTER.
THE PREMIER HASN'T EVEN COME
CLOSE TO ANSWERING SERIOUS
QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS SCHEME
AND TORONTO COUNCIL HAS BEEN
CLEAR IT'S A SCHEME THAT
WILL NOT WORK FOR THE PEOPLE
OF TORONTO.
DOES THE PREMIER HAVE ANY
INTENTION OF ACTUALLY
WORKING WITH THE CITY IN
GOOD FAITH, OR IS THIS YET
ANOTHER EXAMPLE OF A PREMIER
STUBBORNLY IMPOSING HIS WILL
AND REFUSING TO ACKNOWLEDGE
THE SERIOUS CONSEQUENCES?

[APPLAUSE]

The Speaker says QUESTION'S
TO THE PREMIER.

Ford says THROUGH
YOU, MR. SPEAKER.
BOY, TALK ABOUT RICH.
TALK ABOUT IRONIC.
WE'VE HAD A STAGNANT TRANSIT
SYSTEM HERE FOR THE LAST
THREE DECADES.
YOU LOOK AT THE MAP OF THE
TTC
IT'S NOT MOVING.
THROUGH THE GREAT WORK OF
OUR MINISTER OF
TRANSPORTATION...

[APPLAUSE]

Ford says HE STOOD OUT... PUT OUT AN
INCREDIBLE, INCREDIBLE PLAN.
NO MATTER IF IT'S THE
ONTARIO LINE STARTING AT
ONTARIO PLACE, GOING UP TO
THE ONTARIO SCIENCE CENTRE.
IF IT'S EXTENDING THE
EGLINTON LINE OUT WEST ALL
THE WAY OUT TO THE AIRPORT
TO SERVE THE PEOPLE OF
ETOBICOKE OR FOR THE GREAT
PEOPLE OF SCARBOROUGH THAT
HAVE BEEN WAITING FOR
TRANSIT FOR DECADES AND
DECADES.
WE'RE GOING TO MAKE SURE WE
HAVE A THREE-STOP SUBWAY
STOP RIGHT THERE AND ANOTHER
GREAT ANNOUNCEMENT FOR THE
PEOPLE UP IN RICHMOND HILL.
WE'RE GOING TO RUN THE YONGE
LINE ALL THE WAY TO RICHMOND
HILL.

The Speaker says RESPONSE.

Ford says WE'RE
PUTTING THE LARGEST
INVESTMENT IN THE COUNTRY'S
SYSTEM IN NORTH AMERICA, A
27 BILLION DOLLAR INVESTMENT.

[APPLAUSE]

The Speaker says SUPPLEMENTARY.

Horwath says WELL,
SPEAKER, I GUESS THE PREMIER
DOESN'T REMEMBER THE LAST
TIME THE CONSERVATIVES WERE
IN OFFICE WHEN THEY BURIED
THE EGLINTON SUBWAY TUNNEL
THAT WAS BEING BUILT TO
EXPAND SUBWAYS IN THE
PROVINCE.
BUT IT'S CLEAR THAT THE
PREMIER'S PLOWING AHEAD WITH
THE HOSTILE TAKEOVER OF THE
TTC WITHOUT THE
PERMISSION OF THE PEOPLE WHO
BUILT, PAID FOR AND USED THE
SUBWAY JUST LIKE HE'S
IGNORING THE DOCTORS WHO
PROVIDE PUBLIC HEALTH OR
TEACHERS IN A CLASSROOM
AFTER DECADES AND DECADES OF
TRANSIT DELAY.

The Speaker says ORDER.

Horwath says DURING HIS TIME AT CITY
HALL, THE PEOPLE OF TORONTO
WANT THEIR LEADERS TO WORK
TOGETHER TO GET TRANSIT
BUILT.
INSTEAD THE PREMIER'S
CHANGING PLANS AND
ATTEMPTING TO IMPOSE HIS
WILL YET AGAIN.
WHY WON'T THE PREMIER
REALIZE THAT THIS ACTUALLY
WILL LEAD TO FURTHER DELAYS,
LESS TRANSIT AND MORE
GRIDLOCK?

[APPLAUSE]

The Speaker says THE MINISTER
OF NATURAL RESOURCES AND
FORESTRY IS WARNED.
THE MEMBER FOR NIAGARA WEST
IS WARNED.
YOU.
START THE CLOCK.
PREMIER TO REPLY.

Ford says THE GREAT
MINISTER OF TRANSPORTATION.

[APPLAUSE]

[CHEERS]

The Speaker says MINISTER OF
TRANSPORTATION.

The caption changes to "Honourable Jeff Yurek. PC. Minister of Transportation."

Yurek is in his forties, clean-shaven, with thinning brown hair. He wears a gray suit, white shirt, and blue tie.

He says MR. SPEAKER, YOU KNOW,
IT'S UNFORTUNATE THE MEMBER... THE LEADER OF THE
OPPOSITION, THE N.D.P., ARE
MISS CHARACTERIZING THIS
ENTIRE ANNOUNCEMENT THAT WE
WILL BE INTRODUCING
LEGISLATION TOMORROW.
WE ARE STEPPING FORWARD...

The Speaker says ASK THE
MINISTER TO WITHDRAW.

Yurek says I WITHDRAW.
SO, MR. SPEAKER, WHAT WE ARE
DOING IS WE HAVE BEEN
WORKING WITH THE CITY OF
TORONTO SINCE LAST NOVEMBER.
WE CAMPAIGNED ON A PROMISE
TO UPLOAD THE SUBWAY.
WE CAMPAIGNED ON A PROMISE
TO BUILD NEW SUBWAYS FOR THE
CITY OF TORONTO.
THE OLD SYSTEM WAS NOT
WORKING, MR. SPEAKER.
THEY ARE UNABLE TO EXPAND
THE CURRENT SUBWAY NETWORK.
WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH
MAYOR TORY AND HIS STAFF
SINCE NOVEMBER.
TERMS OF REFERENCE.
WE'VE BEEN MEETING WITH THEM
WEEKLY AS WE PROGRESS
TOWARDS THE UPLOAD WHICH IS
GOING TO BENEFIT NOT ONLY
THE PEOPLE OF TORONTO.

The Speaker says RESPONSE.

Yurek says BUT THE ENTIRE PROVINCE
AS A WHOLE.
I HAVE TO ASK THE LEADER OF
THE OPPOSITION A SERIOUS
QUESTION.
SHE GETS UPSET WHEN SHE
CLAIMS WE'RE DOWNLOADING
SERVICES.
WE'RE ACTUALLY UPLOADING 20
BILLION DOLLARS WORTH OF NETWORKS
INTO OUR PROVINCE.
IS SHE FOR...

[APPLAUSE]

The Speaker says STOP THE CLOCK.
STOP THE CLOCK.
NEXT QUESTION.
START THE CLOCK.
MEMBER FOR RICHMOND HILL.

[APPLAUSE]

The caption changes to "Daisy Wai. PC. Richmond Hill."

Wai is in her late fifties, with short wavy gray hair. She wears glasses, a pied-de-poule blazer over a black shirt, and a silver pendant necklace.

She says THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER.
MY QUESTION IS FOR THE
PREMIER.
THIS WEEK THE PREMIER
TRAVELLED TO NEW YORK CITY
WITH THE MINISTER OF
FINANCE.
THEY WERE IN THE BIG APPLE
TO SPEAK TO INVESTORS, TO
WALL STREET PROMOTE OUR 2019
BUDGET AND LET OUR LARGEST
TRADING PARTNER KNOW ONTARIO
IS OPEN FOR BUSINESS.

[APPLAUSE]

Wai says AND OPEN FOR JOBS.
CUTTING RED TAPE THROUGH
MEASURES AND MAKING ONTARIO
OPEN FOR BUSINESS ACT AND
RESTORING ONTARIO'S KPET
TIFDNESS ACT.
WE ARE PROVIDING CORPORATE
INCOME TAX RELIEF THROUGH
THE JOB CREATION INVESTMENT
INCENTIVE, AND WE ARE FIXING
THE LIBERALS' HYDRO MESS.
COULD THE PREMIER EXPLAIN TO
THE HOUSE HOW IMPORTANT IT
IS TO BRING OUR
OPEN-FOR-BUSINESS MANDATE TO
INTERNATIONAL INVESTORS?

The Speaker says QUESTION'S
FOR THE PREMIER.

Ford says THROUGH YOU,
MR. SPEAKER.
MYSELF AND MY ALL-STAR
MINISTER OF FINANCE WENT TO
NEW YORK.
AND I'LL TELL YOU, THAT WAS
ONE OF THE MOST REWARDING
TRIPS, NOT ONLY FOR US BUT
THE PEOPLE OF ONTARIO.
WHEN WE TALKED TO THE
LARGEST INVESTMENT FIRMS IN
THE ENTIRE WORLD, THE ENTIRE
WORLD, THAT STOPPED
INVESTING IN ONTARIO,
STOPPED INVESTING IN CANADA
BECAUSE THE TRAGEDY THEY SEE,
THEY SAW WHAT TOOK PLACE
OVER THE LAST 15 YEARS.
WHEN WE TOLD THEM THAT WE
WERE CUTTING THE RED TAPE BY
25 percent, SAVING BUSINESSES OVER
400 MILLION DOLLARS, CUTTING
REGULATIONS, MAKING SURE WE
REDUCE HYDRO RATES, MAKING
SURE THAT WE PUT A JOB
CREATION INVESTMENT
INCENTIVE OF 4 BILLION DOLLARS,
THEY WERE EXCITED.
WE TALKED TO NUMEROUS
FORTUNE 500 COMPANIES, AND
THEY LOOK FORWARD.

The Speaker says RESPONSE.

Ford says TO COMING,
CREATING JOBS, CREATING
INVESTMENT IN ONTARIO.

Interjection: HEAR, HEAR!

[APPLAUSE]

The Speaker says THE MEMBER
FOR HAMILTON EAST-STONEY
CREEK HAS TO COME TO ORDER.
SUPPLEMENTARY.

Wai says THANK YOU, SPEAKER.
AND THANK YOU TO THE PREMIER
FOR HIS RESPONSE.
BUSINESS FINALLY HAVE
GOVERNMENT AND A PREMIER WHO
UNDERSTAND BUSINESS.
THEY HAVE CONFIDENCE IN THE
GOVERNMENT AGAIN.
ONTARIO HAS CREATED 123,000
JOBS SINCE WE TOOK OFFICE
NINE MONTHS AGO.

[APPLAUSE]

Wai says IT'S BECAUSE WE ARE CREATING
AN ENVIRONMENT WHERE JOB
CREATORS CAN THRIVE.
AND BECAUSE AFTER 13 YEARS
OF LIBERAL WASTE, SCANDAL
AND MISMANAGEMENT, WE ARE
GETTING OUR FISCAL HOUSE IN
ORDER AGAIN.
OUR 2019 BUDGET PROTECTS
WHAT MATTERS MOST TO ONTARIO
FAMILIES WHILE PROVIDING A
CLEAR PATH TO BALANCE.
COULD THE PREMIER OUTLINE
FOR THE HOUSE HOW OUR BUDGET
WAS RECEIVED BY INVESTORS
AND BUSINESSES IN NEW YORK?

[APPLAUSE]

The Speaker says PREMIER.

Ford says THROUGH
YOU, MR. SPEAKER, I WANT TO
THANK OUR ALL-STAR MEMBER OF
PARLIAMENT, PROVINCIAL
PARLIAMENT FROM RICHMOND
HILL.

[APPLAUSE]

Ford says DOING A GREAT JOB.
AND I APOLOGIZE, I GOT SO
EXCITED ABOUT THIS TRIP TO
NEW YORK, I TOOK OFF ON
THAT.
SO MY APOLOGIES.
WHEN WE WENT TO NEW YORK,
AND AGAIN WE MET WITH
PRIVATE COMPANIES, FORTUNE
500 COMPANIES.
WE MET WIN VISITORS A FEW
TIMES AND THERE WAS ONE
INVESTMENT COMPANY THE
LARGEST IN THE WORLD TOLD US
THEY HAD NEVER SEEN A
PROSPEROUS COUNTRY AND A
PROSPEROUS PROVINCE ONTARIO
DISMANTLE THE ENERGY FILE
EVER IN THEIR ENTIRE LIVES.
THEY SAID THE INVESTMENTS
JUST DRIED UP.
NO ONE WAS INTERESTED IN
INVESTING IN ONTARIO OR
CANADA ANYMORE.
THE EXACT WORDS IS THEY
SYSTEMATICALLY DESTROYED
YOUR ENERGY FILE.
THEY SAID EVEN IF WE.

The Speaker says RESPONSE.

Ford says EVEN IF WE
PLANNED TO DESTROY IT, WE
COULDN'T DESTROY IT AS WELL
AS THE N.D.P. AND THE
LIBERALS HAVE DONE IT OVER
THE LAST 15 YEARS.
THAT'S STAGGERING WHEN
INVESTMENT DRIES UP.
BUT WE TOLD THEM ONTARIO'S
OPEN FOR BUSINESS AND...

The Speaker says THANK YOU.

[APPLAUSE]

THE NEXT question. The member for NIAGARA CENTRE.

The caption changes to "Jeff Burch. NDP. Niagara Centre."

Burch is in his forties, clean-shaven and balding. He wears a gray suit, gray shirt and striped gray tie.

He says THANK YOU, SPEAKER.
MY QUESTION IS TO THE
MINISTER OF MUNICIPAL
AFFAIRS AND HOUSING.
THE RECENT BUDGET CUT VITAL
FUNDING FROM MUNICIPALITIES
AND MUNICIPALLY COST-SHARED
PROGRAMS.
A PLAN INCREASING GAS TAX
FUNDING FOR MUNICIPAL
TRANSIT WAS CANCELLED
COSTING MORE THAN 100
MUNICIPALITIES OVER 360
MILLION DOLLARS PER YEAR IN PLANNED
FUNDING.
PUBLIC HEALTH FUNDING IS
BEING CUT BY 200 MILLION DOLLARS PER YEAR.
THE COMMUNITY INFRASTRUCTURE
FUND, WHICH FUNDS PROJECTS
IN SMALL, RURAL AND NORTHERN
MUNICIPALITIES, WAS
RETROACTIVELY CUT BY 100
MILLION DOLLARS PER YEAR.
WHY IS THIS PREMIER MAKING
LIFE HARDER FOR FAMILIES AND
BUSINESSES THAT COUNT ON
THESE MUNICIPAL PROGRAMS?

[APPLAUSE]

The Speaker says QUESTION'S
TO THE MINISTER OF MUNICIPAL
AFFAIRS AND HOUSING.

Clark says THANKS, SPEAKER.
THROUGH YOU TO THE
HONOURABLE MEMBER, I'M
SURPRISED THAT WE HAVEN'T
HEARD FROM HIM OR HIS PARTY
WHEN WE MADE A HISTORIC
INVESTMENT IN THE LAST
FISCAL YEAR.
WE PROVIDED 405
MUNICIPALITIES OUT OF
ONTARIO'S 444 MUNICIPALITIES
WITH OVER 200 MILLION DOLLARS ON A
ONETIME BASIS TO WORK ON
MUNICIPAL MODERNIZATION.
THAT WAS A GREAT
ANNOUNCEMENT, ONE THAT HAS
BEEN CELEBRATED ACROSS THIS
PROVINCE.
YOU KNOW, AGAIN, SPEAKER, WE
WORKED QUITE CLOSELY WITH
OUR MUNICIPAL PARTNERS.
WE VALUE THE RELATIONSHIP
THAT WE HAVE WITH THEM AND
WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO
SIT DOWN WITH THEM AND TALK
ABOUT HOW WE CAN ASSIST AND
WORK WITH THEM.
WE KNOW THAT THERE IS A
TREMENDOUS APPETITE OUT
THERE FOR MUNICIPAL
OFFICIALS TO MAKE THEIR
MUNICIPALITIES MORE
EFFECTIVE AND EFFICIENT.

The Speaker says RESPONSE.

Clark says AND ENSURE THAT THOSE
CRITICAL SERVICES THAT THEY
PROVIDE THEIR CONSTITUENTS
ARE DONE IN THE MOST
EFFICIENT AND EFFECTIVE WAY
AS POSSIBLE.
WE VALUE OUR RELATIONSHIP.
WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO
WORK WITH THEM, SPEAKER.

[APPLAUSE]

The Speaker says SUPPLEMENTARY QUESTION.

Burch says WELL, SPEAKER, FOR ALMOST
HALF OF ONTARIO'S MUNICIPAL
GOVERNMENT, A 1 percent PROPERTY
TAX INCREASE RAISES ONLY
50,000 PER YEAR.
BUT THE PREMIER HAS
CANCELLED HUNDREDS OF
MILLIONS OF DOLLARS OF
ANNUAL FUNDING FOR MUNICIPALLY
COST SHARED PROGRAMS,
MEANING EITHER HUGE CUTS OR
HUGE PROPERTY TAX INCREASES.
WE ARE SEEING CUTS TO FLOOD
PROTECTION, INTERLIBRARY
LOANS AND HOUSING PROGRAMS.
THE LAST CONSERVATIVE
GOVERNMENT CANCELLED FUNDING
FOR MUNICIPAL SOCIAL HOUSING
AND TRANSIT AND SOCIAL
HOUSING AND TRANSIT HAVE
BEEN IN A STATE OF CRISIS
EVER SINCE.
WHY IS THE PREMIER REPEATING
THIS SHAMEFUL HISTORY WITH
CUTS TO PUBLIC HEALTH AND
OTHER VITAL MUNICIPAL
PROGRAMS?

[APPLAUSE]

The Speaker says AGAIN
MINISTER OF MUNICIPAL
AFFAIRS AND HOUSING.

Clark says MINISTER OF INFRASTRUCTURE.

The Speaker says MINISTER OF
INFRASTRUCTURE.

[APPLAUSE]

The caption changes to "Honourable Monte McNaughton. PC. Minister of Infrastructure."

McNaughton is in his late thirties, clean-shaven, with receding short brown hair. He wears glasses, a gray suit, white shirt, and striped black tie.

He says THANK YOU VERY MUCH,
MR. SPEAKER.
HERE WE ARE, YET ANOTHER DAY
IN QUESTION PERIOD, AND THE
N.D.P. CONTINUE TO DEFEND
THE RECORD OF THE FORMER
LIBERAL GOVERNMENT.
BEYOND, EVERY DAY THEY ARE
ADVOCATING ON BEHALF OF THE
FORMER LIBERAL GOVERNMENT.
MR. SPEAKER, ON MARCH 12TH
ON BEHALF OF PREMIER FORD
AND OUR GOVERNMENT, I
ANNOUNCED A 30 BILLION DOLLARS INVESTMENT IN INFRASTRUCTURE
PLAN FOR MUNICIPALITIES
RIGHT ACROSS THE PROVINCE.

[APPLAUSE]

McNaughton says THAT IS A HISTORIC
INVESTMENT.
AND, MR. SPEAKER, WE'RE
GOING TO INVEST 30 BILLION DOLLARS IN ROADS AND BRIDGES,
TRANSIT RIGHT ACROSS THE
PROVINCE, GREEN
INFRASTRUCTURE LIKE WATER
AND WASTEWATER SYSTEMS,
MR. SPEAKER, AS WELL AS
BUILDING COMMUNITY CENTRES,
RECREATION AND CULTURE
CENTRES RIGHT ACROSS THIS
PROVINCE.

The Speaker says RESPONSE.

McNaughton says I WOULD THINK THAT THE
N.D.P. WOULD SUPPORT THAT
TYPE OF INVESTMENT IN THEIR
OWN COMMUNITY RIGHT ACROSS
THIS PROVINCE.
THANK YOU.

[APPLAUSE]

The Speaker says THE NEXT QUESTION IS THE MEMBER FOR NORTHUMBERLAND-PETERBOROUGH South.

The caption changes to "David Piccini. PC. Northumberland-Peterborough South."

Piccini is in his early forties, clean-shaven, with short blond hair. He wears a dark blue suit, white shirt, and burgundy tie.

He says THANK YOU.

[APPLAUSE]

Piccini says THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER.
MY QUESTION IS FOR THE
MINISTER OF FINANCE.
WE KNOW THAT WHEN THE PEOPLE
OF ONTARIO ELECTED OUR
GOVERNMENT, THEY DID SO
WANTING GREATER CONVENIENCE
AND GREATER CHOICE IN THEIR
EVERYDAY LIVES.
THAT'S WHY OUR GOVERNMENT
PROMISED DURING LAST YEAR'S
ELECTION CAMPAIGN TO BRING
BEER AND WINE INTO CORNER
STORES, BIG BOX STORES AND
EVEN GROCERY STORES.
AND WHEN I WENT FOR MY
MORNING COFFEE AT CLARK'S
VARIETY I HEARD FROM
COUNTLESS FARMERS FOLKS IN
RURAL ONTARIO WHO SAID WHY
CAN'T WE PICK UP A BEER ON
OUR WAY HOME?
YESTERDAY A STUDY FROM THE
RETAIL COUNCIL OF CANADA
REAFFIRMED THAT OUR
COMMITMENT WILL HAVE A
POSITIVE ECONOMIC IMPACT.
IN FACT IT WILL CONTRIBUTE
OVER 3.5 BILLION DOLLARS TO
ONTARIO'S ECONOMY.
SPEAKER, COULD THE MINISTER
SHARE HOW DETAILS OF
BRINGING MORE CONVENIENCE
AND MORE CHOICE FOR
ONTARIO'S CONSUMERS WILL
PROVIDE OPPORTUNITIES FOR
JOB CREATORS AND CONSUMERS
ALIKE?

[APPLAUSE]

The Speaker says QUESTION'S
FOR THE MINISTER OF FINANCE.

The caption changes to "Honourable Victor Fedeli. Minister of Finance."

Fedeli is in his fifties, with short white hair and glasses. He wears a gray suit, white shirt and yellow tie.

He says THANK YOU, SPEAKER, AND
TO THE MEMBER FOR NORTHUMBERLAND-PETERBOROUGH
SOUTH FOR THE QUESTION.
BY EXPANDING CHOICE AND
CONVENIENCE FOR ONTARIO
CONSUMERS WE'RE EXPANDING
OPPORTUNITIES FOR SMALL
BUSINESSES RIGHT ACROSS THE
PROVINCE.
LOCAL STORE OWNERS, BREWERS,
CONSUMERS ALL STAND TO
BENEFIT FROM AN EXPANDED
MARKET.
YESTERDAY THE INDEPENDENT
RETAIL COUNCIL OF CANADA
SAID THAT, IF ONTARIO WERE
TO INCREASE THE NUMBER OF
RETAIL STORES SELLING
ALCOHOL TO MEET JUST THE
NATIONAL AVERAGE, WE WOULD
SEE 9,000 NEW JOBS CREATED
IN ONTARIO AND 3.5 BILLION DOLLARS ADD TODAY OUR G.D.P.

[APPLAUSE]

Fedeli says THE RETAIL COUNCIL SAYS,
QUOTE...
GREATER CHOICE FOR ALCOHOL
AND INCREASED CONVENIENCE IS
BOTH A STRONG WIN FOR
ONTARIO CONSUMERS, AS WELL
FOR ONTARIO'S ECONOMY.
SPEAKER WE AGREE.

The Speaker says RESPONSE.

Fedeli says AND LOOK FORWARD TO
FILLING YET ANOTHER PROMISE
MADE TO THE PEOPLE OF
ONTARIO.

[APPLAUSE]

The Speaker says SUPPLEMENTARY QUESTION.

Piccini says THANK YOU FOR THAT
RESPONSE, MINISTER.
I KNOW MEMBERS IN OPPOSITION
AREN'T INTERESTED IN THOSE
SORT OF ECONOMIC IMPACTS TO
OUR PROVINCE AND THOSE JOBS.
BUT IT'S ENCOURAGING TO HEAR
THE WORDS OF YESTERDAY FROM
THE INDEPENDENT NONPARTISAN
RETAIL COUNCIL OF CANADA.
IT'S ABUNDANTLY CLEAR THAT
OUR GOVERNMENT IS OPEN FOR
BUSINESS AND OPEN FOR JOBS,
AND IT'S GOING TO CONTINUE
PUTTING PEOPLE FIRST IN
EVERYTHING WE DO.
AS EVIDENCED BY THE RETAIL
COUNCIL OF CANADA'S
COMMENTS.
BUT WE ALSO MUST ENSURE THAT
THE CHANGES WE INEVITABLY
INTRODUCE ARE SOCIALLY
RESPONSIBLE AND THAT THE
HEALTH AND SAFETY OF OUR
COMMUNITIES ARE MAINTAINED.
MINISTER, CAN YOU TELL THE
HOUSE HOW OUR APPROACH TO
MODERNIZING ALCOHOL SALES
EMBRACES THIS IMMENSE
ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITY WHILE
ALSO ENSURING IT'S DONE IN A
RESPONSIBLE MANNER?

[APPLAUSE]

The Speaker says MINISTER?

Fedeli says THANK YOU, SPEAKER.
AGAIN THANK YOU TO THE MEMBER FOR THE QUESTION.
SPEAKER, NOT ONLY DOES
ONTARIO STAND TO BENEFIT
FROM THE JOB CREATION
OPPORTUNITIES THAT EXIST BUT
EXPANDED CHOICE AND
CONVENIENCE WOULD DIRECTLY
BENEFIT CONSUMERS.
OUR PROPOSED CHANGES WOULD
ALLOW RESPONSIBLE ADULT
CONSUMERS TO MAKE THE
CHOICES THAT ARE BEST FOR
THEM.
AT THE SAME TIME, WE WANT TO
ENSURE THAT ANY PROPOSED
IMPROVEMENTS WILL UPHOLD THE
SAFETY AND HEALTH OF ALL OF
OUR CITIZENS AND ALL OUR
COMMUNITIES.
WE HAVE APPOINTED KEN HUGHES,
A SPECIAL ADVISOR.
HIS EXPERIENCE AS CHAIR OF
ALBERTA HEALTH SERVICES WILL
INFORM OUR GOVERNMENT'S
ABSOLUTELY RESPONSIBLE
APPROACH, SPEAKER.
WE CONTINUE TO ENGAGE WITH A
WIDE VARIETY OF GROUPS.

The Speaker says RESPONSE.

Fedeli says AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO
WORKING WITH THEM ON THE
GREAT OPPORTUNITIES THAT LIE
AHEAD.
THANK YOU, SPEAKER.

[APPLAUSE]

The Speaker says THANK YOU.
THE NEXT question. The member for Davenport.

The caption changes to "Marit Stiles. NDP. Davenport."

Stiles is in her forties, with feathered blond hair in a bob. She wears a blue jacket, a black blouse, and a silver necklace.

She says THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER.
MY QUESTION'S FOR THE
MINISTER OF EDUCATION.
JUST LAST NIGHT, WE LEARNED
OF YET ANOTHER CUT HITTING
ONTARIO'S CHILD CARE SYSTEM.
BURIED WITHIN THE
GOVERNMENT'S 2019 CHILD CARE
ALLOCATIONS IS A 50 MILLION DOLLARS CUT TO CHILD CARE OPERATORS
THROUGH THE RETROACTIVE
ELIMINATION OF FEE
STABILIZATION FUNDING.
NOW, MR. SPEAKER,
DESTABILIZATION WAS PUT IN
PLACE IN ORDER TO ENSURE
THAT, AS OUR FRONT-LINE
CHILD CARE WORKERS SAW THEIR
WAGES RIGHTLY INCREASE,
OPERATORS WOULD NOT BE
FORCED TO EITHER INCREASE
FEES FOR PARENTS OR LAY
WORKERS OFF.
SIMPLY PUT, MR. SPEAKER, THE
FUNDING HELPED KEEP KIDS IN
RELIABLE CARE, KEPT PARENTS
FROM SEEING A HIKE IN THEIR
FEES AND HELPED ONTARIO
WORKERS KEEP THEIR JOBS.
WHY IS THE MINISTER TAKING
THIS AWAY?

[APPLAUSE]

The Speaker says QUESTION IS
FOR THE MINISTER OF
EDUCATION.

The caption changes to "Honourable Lisa M. Thompson. PC. Minister of Education."

Thompson is in her forties, with chin-length wavy blond hair. She wears glasses, a black blazer and a burgundy shirt.

She says THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR
THE OPPORTUNITY TO STAND AND
SPEAK IN THE HOUSE TODAY,
SPEAKER, TO DISPEL YET
ANOTHER N.D.P. MYTH THAT
THEY'RE TRYING TO
PERPETUATE.
THE MANNER IN WHICH THIS
PARTY IS TRYING TO FEAR
MONGER IS JUST STAB GEHRING,
AND THIS IS ANOTHER EXAMPLE.
BECAUSE QUITE FRANKLY ALL I
HAVE TO SAY IS BILL 148.
THAT FEE STABILIZATION WAS
PUT IN PLACE TO CORRECT A
MISTAKE THAT THE FORMER
LIBERAL GOVERNMENT MADE, AND
YOU BACKED THEM UP YET
AGAIN.

[INTERJECTIONS]

Thompson says YOU KNOW
DECISION AFTER...

The Speaker says I ASK THE
MINISTER TO MAKE HER
COMMENTS THROUGH THE
FLOOR... THROUGH THE CHAIR,
RATHER, NOT ACROSS THE
FLOOR.
AGAIN THE MINISTER TO
CONCLUDE HER RESPONSE.

Thompson says OK.
THANK YOU, SPEAKER.
YOU KNOW, THE DECISIONS MADE,
DAY CARE ACROSS ONTARIO
ABSOLUTELY UNAFFORDABLE.
THE PREVIOUS GOVERNMENT
RAISED INTEREST'S MINIMUM
WAGE BY 20 percent, AND THAT WAS
ABSOLUTELY UNMANAGEABLE FOR
ONTARIO'S HEALTH CARE
SECTOR.

The Speaker says RESPONSE.

Thompson says SO WHAT ARE WE DOING?
WE'RE FIXING THE MISTAKES
THAT THE N.D.P. BACKED UP
THAT THE LIBERAL PARTY MADE.
ANT FACT OF THE MATTER IS
WE'RE INVESTING 2
BILLION DOLLARS...

The Speaker says THANK YOU.

[APPLAUSE]

The Speaker says THANK YOU. SUPPLEMENTARY.

Stiles says MR. SPEAKER, I DON'T KNOW
WHY THIS GOVERNMENT IS IN
SUCH A RUSH TO GET IT SO
VERY WRONG.
THE ABRUPT END TO THIS
STABILIZATION FUNDING MEANS
THAT CHILD CARE FACILITIES
ARE BEING HIT WITH MASSIVE
CHANGES TO THEIR FUNDING
FORMULAS WITH ABSOLUTELY NO
WARNING FROM THIS
GOVERNMENT.
CLEARLY THIS GOVERNMENT HAS
NO IDEA HOW THIS CHANGE WILL
IMPACT ONTARIO FAMILIES,
BECAUSE ONCE AGAIN THEY
HAVEN'T CONSULTED WITH THE
KEY STAKEHOLDERS BEFORE THEY
[UNCLEAR].
TO MAKE MATTERS WORSE,
MR. SPEAKER, 44 OUT OF 47
CHILD CARE DELIVERY AND
OVERSIGHT BOARDS HAD THEIR
GENERAL ALLOCATION FUNDING
CUT THIS YEAR, LEAVING
PARENTS AGAIN TO PICK UP THE
TAB.
SINCE FORMING GOVERNMENT,
THE CONSERVATIVES HAVE MADE
CHILD CARE LESS SAFE FOR
CHILDREN, MORE EXPENSIVE FOR
PARENTS AND CREATED ABSOLUTE
CHAOS FOR CHILD CARE
PROVIDERS AND EDUCATORS.
WHY?

[APPLAUSE]

The Speaker says MINISTER.

Thompson says SPEAKER, THE ANSWER TO
WHY IS VERY SIMPLE.
WE WERE ELECTED AS A
GOVERNMENT TO FIX THE MESS
THE LIBERAL GOVERNMENT MADE
AND FOR THE LAST 15 YEARS
THAT THIS PARTY PROPPED UP.

[APPLAUSE]

Thompson says HONESTLY.
WE'RE GETTING IT RIGHT ONCE
AND FOR ALL FOR ONTARIO'S
DAY CARE.
WE'RE INVESTING OVER 2
BILLION DOLLARS.
WE'RE CONTINUING WITH THE
WAGE ENHANCEMENT GRANT.
WE'RE CONTINUING ON HOME
CHILD CARE ENHANCEMENT GRANT,
AND WE'RE ALSO CONTINUING
WITH THE QUALIFICATION
UPGRADES FOR EARLY CHILDHOOD
EDUCATORS.
SPEAKER, LIKE NEVER BEFORE
WE'RE STANDING UP AND
GETTING IT RIGHT AND
STANDING WITH PARENTS.
WE'RE GOING TO BE LEAVING
ULTIMATELY MORE MONEY IN
THEIR POCKETS, BECAUSE OVER
AND ABOVE EVERYTHING ELSE
WE'RE DOING, WE INTRODUCED
CARE, A TAX CREDIT THAT
ULTIMATELY WILL SEE RELIEF
FROM THE COSTS OF CHILD
CARE.

The Speaker says RESPONSE.

Thompson says BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO BE
A TAX CREDIT THAT WILL
ENABLE PARENTS FLEXIBILITY,
ACCESSIBILITY AND
AFFORDABILITY WHEN IT COMES
TO...

[APPLAUSE]

The Speaker says STOP THE CLOCK.
ORDER.
START THE CLOCK.
NEXT question. The member for Scarborough-Guildwood.

The caption changes to "Mitzie Hunter. Liberal. Scarborough-Guildwood."

Hunter is in her forties, with long wavy black hair. She wears a beige blazer, a black shirt, and a pendant necklace.

She says THANK YOU, SPEAKER.
MY QUESTION IS TO THE
PREMIER.
SPEAKER, THROUGH YOU TO THE
PREMIER.
YESTERDAY THE LARGE URBAN
MAYORS CAUCUS RAISED
CONCERNS OVER THE FORD
GOVERNMENT'S DOWNLOADING BY
STEALTH AGENDA.
THIS PLAN WILL PLACE
SIGNIFICANT FINANCIAL
PRESSURE ON MUNICIPALITIES
THAT ARE ALREADY STRUGGLING
TO COPE WITH THE CUTS TO
LIBRARY SERVICES AND PUBLIC
HEALTH.
UNDER ITS DOWNLOADING BY
STEALTH AGENDA, THIS
GOVERNMENT WILL REQUIRE
MUNICIPALITIES TO COST-SHARE
CHILD CARE FUNDING AT A RATE
OF 80-20.
FROM ITS PREVIOUS 100 percent
FUNDING.
WHY IS THIS GOVERNMENT
UNILATERALLY SHIFTING THESE
COSTS WHEN WE KNOW WE ONLY
HAVE ONE TAXPAYER?
WHY IS THIS GOVERNMENT USING
CHILD CARE COSTS

[INTERJECTIONS]

Hunter says TO OFF-LOAD.

The Speaker says ORDER.

Hunter says THEIR RESPONSE...

The Speaker says STOP THE CLOCK.
STOP
STOP THE CLOCK.
THE MEMBER WILL PLEASE TAKE
HER SEAT.

[INTERJECTIONS]

The Speaker says THE
GOVERNMENT SIDE WILL COME TO
ORDER.
ONCE AGAIN I NEED TO BE ABLE
TO HEAR THE MEMBER WHO
ACTUALLY HAS THE FLOOR, HAS
THE RIGHT TO PLACE A
QUESTION, IS NOT BREAKING
THE RULES BY LOUD
INTERJECTIONS.
START THE CLOCK.
I APOLOGIZE TO THE MEMBER
FOR SCARBOROUGH-GUILDWOOD.
PLEASE CONCLUDE YOUR
QUESTION.

Hunter says WHY IS THIS GOVERNMENT
USING CHILD CARE COST
SHARING TO OFF-LOAD THEIR
RESPONSIBILITIES ONTO
MUNICIPALITIES LEAVING THEM
OUT TO DRY?

The Speaker says QUESTION'S
FOR THE PREMIER.

Ford says THROUGH YOU,
MR. SPEAKER.
I CAN'T BELIEVE WHAT I JUST
HEARD.
THERE'S ONE TAXPAYER?
THIS IS A GOVERNMENT THAT
DISMANTLED THIS PROVINCE FOR
DECADES.
THIS IS THE GOVERNMENT THAT
PUT OUR DEBT LARGEST SUB
SOVEREIGN DEBT IN THE WORLD
AT 347 BILLION DOLLARS.
WHEN I WAS IN NEW YORK, THEY
COULDN'T BELIEVE IT.
THIS IS A GOVERNMENT THAT
PUT OUR CHILDREN, OUR
FAMILIES, THE WORKERS IN
THIS PROVINCE IN DEBT AND
DEFICIT OF 15 BILLION DOLLARS.
WE HAVE TO BE FISCALLY
RESPONSIBLE, MR. SPEAKER.
I JUST CAN'T BELIEVE THE
GOVERNMENT FOR 15 YEARS OF
SCANDAL, MISMANAGEMENT OF
MONEY FROM THE TAXPAYERS,
ACTUALLY HAS THE NERVE TO
GET UP THERE AND SAY THERE'S
ONE TAXPAYER?
THEY'VE NEVER SEEN A DOLLAR
THAT THEY DON'T LOVE
SPENDING.
IT'S ABOUT TAX, TAX, TAX,
SPEND, SPEND, SPEND.

[APPLAUSE]

The Speaker says STOP THE CLOCK.
ORDER.
RESTART THE CLOCK.
SUPPLEMENTARY QUESTION.

Hunter says THANK YOU, SPEAKER.
AGAIN BACK TO THE PREMIER.
THIS MORNING WE LEARNED THAT
THE FORD GOVERNMENT IS
CUTTING 50 MILLION DOLLARS IN
FUNDING THAT WAS MEANT TO
SUPPORT CHILD CARE CENTRES
IN INCREASING COSTS OF
LABOUR.
THE REMOVAL OF THIS FUNDING
WILL DESTABILIZE THE SYSTEM
AND FORCE CHILD CARE CENTRES
TO EITHER CUT STAFF OR TO
RAISE FEES FOR PARENTS.

[INTERJECTIONS]

The Speaker says STOP THE CLOCK
AGAIN.
THE MEMBER FOR KITCHENER-CONESTOGA'S
WARNED.
THE MEMBER FOR CARLETON IS
WARNED.
SIX MEMBERS HAVE BEEN
WARNED.
START THE CLOCK.
AGAIN I APOLOGIZE TO THE MEMBER FOR SCARBOROUGH-GUILDWOOD.

Hunter says CENTRE IN PEEL THAT IS
ALREADY RAISING FEES BY 72
BECAUSE OF THIS DEVASTATING
CUT.
FAMILIES SIMPLY CAN'T AFFORD
HUNDREDS MORE DOLLARS FOR
CHILD CARE COSTS.
MR. SPEAKER, WHY IS THIS
PREMIER FORCING INCREASED
FEES ON CHILD CARE CENTRES
AT THE SAME TIME DOWNLOADING
ITS RESPONSIBILITIES TO
MUNICIPALITIES?
IT'S LIKE YOU'RE GIVING WITH
ONE HAND AND TAKING FROM THE
NEXT, AND IT IS WRONG AND
IT'S HURTING FAMILIES AND
ALSO DESTABILIZING A SYSTEM
THAT THEY RELY ON.

The Speaker says PREMIER TO REPLY.

Ford says THROUGH
YOU, MR. SPEAKER.
THEY WERE TAKING FROM BOTH
HANDS.

[APPLAUSE]

Ford says THROUGH YOU, MR. SPEAKER.
THROUGH YOU, MR. SPEAKER,
THE REASON THEY'RE RAISING
IT 72 IS BECAUSE THE
PREVIOUS GOVERNMENT RAISED
THE MINIMUM WAGE FROM 11 AND
CHANGE UP TO 14.
I SPOKE TO CHILD CARE FOLKS
AND THEY CAN'T AFFORD TO
HIRE PEOPLE BECAUSE THE
MINIMUM WAGE.
WHAT WE'RE DOING, WE'RE
PUTTING.

The Speaker says ORDER.

Ford says A CARE TAX
CREDIT, WHICH IS A CHILD
CARE EXPENSE DEDUCTION.
WE'RE INVESTING 2 BILLION DOLLARS.
FAMILIES CAN RECEIVE UP TO
6,000.

[APPLAUSE]

Ford says PER CHILD UNDER THE AGE OF
7, MR. SPEAKER.
THEY'RE GOING TO GET A TAX
CREDIT OF 3,750 FROM 7 UP
TO 16 YEARS OF AGE, AND
ANYONE WITH A SEVERE
DISABILITY ARE GOING TO GET
A TAX CREDIT OF 8,250.
WE'RE HELPING.

The Speaker says RESPONSE.

Ford says 300,000
FAMILIES OUT THERE.

[APPLAUSE]

Ford says 300,000 FAMILIES.
THEY WILL HAVE A CHOICE
WHERE THEY GET THEIR CHILD
CARE.

[APPLAUSE]

The Speaker says STOP THE CLOCK.

The Speaker says THE MEMBER
FOR ORLÉANS IS WARNED.
IT'S NOT HELPFUL.
WE'RE TRYING TO HAVE DECORUM
IN THIS HOUSE FOR THE
REMAINDER OF QUESTION
PERIOD.
IT'S THE SPEAKER'S
OBLIGATION TO TRY TO
MAINTAIN THAT.
I NEED YOUR HELP.
START THE CLOCK.
THE NEXT QUESTION IS THE MEMBER FOR MARKHAM-THORNHILL.

[APPLAUSE]

The caption changes to "Logan Kanapathi. PC. Markham-Thornhill."

Kanapathi is in his forties, clean-shaven and balding. He wears a gray suit, white shirt, and blue tie.

He says MR. SPEAKER, MY QUESTION
TO THE MINISTER OF
TRANSPORTATION.
THE PREMIER AND MINISTER OF
TRANSPORTATION UNVEILED A
BOARD VISION FOR TRANSIT
RIGHT HERE IN THE GTHA.
IT IS A 2.5 BILLION DOLLARS TO
EXPAND THE PROVINCE'S SUBWAY
NETWORK BY 50 percent.
MR. SPEAKER, THIS HISTORICAL
ANNOUNCEMENT AND THIS IS BY
FAR THE MOST MONEY EVER
INVESTED TO GET SHOVELS IN
THE GROUND AND GET THE NEW
SUBWAY BUILT.
OUR TRANSIT VISION INCLUDES
EXPANDING THIS TRANSIT
OPTION FOR SCARBOROUGH
RESIDENTS WHO HAVE BEEN
IGNORED FOR FAR TOO LONG.
MOVING FORWARD WITH THE
DESPERATELY NEEDED ONTARIO
LINE.
EXTENDING THE TTC SUBWAY
INTO THE YORK REGION,
MARKHAM AND RICHMOND HILL,
AND EXTENDING THE EGLINTON
WEST L.R.T.
PEOPLE HAVE WAITED LONG
ENOUGH.

The Speaker says RESPONSE.

Kanapathi says TO CREATE THE REGIONAL
TRANSIT SYSTEM.
MR. SPEAKER, CAN THE
MINISTER OF TRANSPORTATION
UPDATE THE LEGISLATURE ON
THEIR PLAN?
THANK YOU.

[APPLAUSE]

The Speaker says MINISTER OF
TRANSPORTATION.

Yurek says THANKS VERY MUCH,
SPEAKER.
THANKS TO THE MEMBER FOR MARKHAM-THORNHILL.
IT'S A GREAT OPPORTUNITY TO
WORK WITH YOU.
HE'S BEEN A STRONG ADVOCATE.

[APPLAUSE]

Yurek says FOR EXTENSION OF OUR SUBWAY., MR. SPEAKER, I HAD THE
HONOUR TO BE INVITED TO
SPEAK THIS MORNING AT THE
TORONTO BOARD OF TRADE'S
ANNUAL BREAKFAST AND I
REALLY THANK HIM FOR THE
INVITE.
I ANNOUNCED THAT TOMORROW IN
THIS LEGISLATURE, I WILL BE
INTRODUCING THE "GETTING
ONTARIO MOVING ACT" AND IF
PASSED IT WILL GIVE US THE
LEGISLATIVE TOOLS TO UPLOAD
OWNERSHIP OF FUTURE SUBWAY
EXPANSION PROJECTS TO THE
PROVINCE SO THAT WE CAN GET
THEM BUILT AND BUILD THEM
FASTER, MR. SPEAKER.
THAT IS OUR GOVERNMENT'S
PLAN TO GET PEOPLE MOVING
AND GET THE ECONOMY GOING.
MR. SPEAKER, IN THE PAST
OTHER GOVERNMENTS HAVE MADE
PROMISES TO EXPAND TRANSIT
IN THE GTHA BUT RED TAPE AND
POLITICS PREVENTED THAT FROM
HAPPENING.
TIME AND AGAIN PEOPLE HAVE
BEEN DISAPPOINTED WHEN
NOTHING GETS BUILT.
MR. SPEAKER, DURING THE
CAMPAIGN.

The Speaker says RESPONSE.

Yurek says PROMISED TO UPLOAD
RESPONSIBILITY FOR SUBWAY
INFRASTRUCTURE TO BUILD
SUBWAYS FASTER, GET
ONTARIANS MOVING AND,
MR. SPEAKER, WE'RE JUST
DOING THAT AND I LOOK
FORWARD TO MORE ANSWERS IN
MY SUPPLEMENTAL.

[APPLAUSE]

The Speaker says SUPPLEMENTARY.

Kanapathi says THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER.
THANK YOU, MINISTER, FOR...
TRANSPORTATION FOR THE VERY
INFORMATIVE AND EXCITING
UPDATE.
OUR GOVERNMENT FOR THE
PEOPLE IS MOVING FULL STEAM
AHEAD TO GO THROUGH TO OUR
COMMITMENT TO GET THE PEOPLE
ACROSS ONTARIO MOVING.
AS THE MINISTER HAS STATED,
OUR SUBWAY TRANSIT VISION
WILL INCLUDE THE ONTARIO
LINE, WHICH WILL PROVIDE...
RELIEVE CONGESTION ON LINE
ONE.
IT WILL BE TWICE AS LONG AND
MOVE TWICE AS MANY PEOPLE AS
THE ORIGINAL RELIEF LINE
PROJECT AND WE WILL GET DONE
AT ABOUT THE SAME COST.
THE YONGE NORTH SUBWAY
EXTENSION WILL CONNECT THE
SUBWAY TO ONE OF THE
REGION'S LARGEST EMPLOYMENT
CENTRES.
WE WILL BUILD A LONG THREE
STOP SCARBOROUGH SUBWAY
EXTENSION AND ADD EGLINTON
CROSSTOWN EXTENSION THROUGH
ETOBICOKE.
CAN THE MINISTER OF
TRANSPORTATION SHARE MORE
DETAILS ABOUT THE
LEGISLATION.

The Speaker says QUESTION.

Kanapathi says BEING TABLED TOMORROW?

The Speaker says MINISTER OF
TRANSPORTATION.

[APPLAUSE]

Yurek says THANK YOU AGAIN FOR THAT
QUESTION, MR. SPEAKER.
AS I STATED BEFORE, THE
PROVINCE IS IN THE BEST
POSITION TO BUILD TRANSIT.
WE'LL BE ABLE TO PRIORITIZE
TRANSPORTATION PROJECTS AND
MAKE DECISIONS BASED ON WHAT
IS BEST FOR PEOPLE OF
ONTARIO, NOT JUST TORONTO.
MR. SPEAKER, WE HAVE A
GREATER CAPACITY TO FINANCE
PROJECTS AND MOVE THEM ALONG
MUCH, MUCH QUICKER.
WE HAVE THE RESOURCES AND
THE DECISION-MAKING
ABILITIES AND WE CAN ISSUE
MINISTERIAL ZONING ORDERS
AND WE CAN COMPEL UTILITIES
TO PRIORITIZE OUR PROJECTS.
MR. SPEAKER, WE WILL UTILIZE
THE CITY'S PREVIOUS PLANNING
THAT THEY HAVE DONE AND
WE'RE GOING TO USE IT TO
WORKING WITH THE CITY, WITH
THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT IN
ORDER TO BUILD AND DEVELOP
AND CREATE A TRULY REGIONAL
TRANSIT SYSTEM.
WE'RE GOING TO BE CONNECTING
NEIGHBOURHOODS THAT HAVE
NEVER BEEN CONNECTED BEFORE,
MR. SPEAKER.
WE'RE GOING TO BE WORKING
TOWARDS FAIR INTEGRATION,
MR. SPEAKER.
THIS IS GREAT NEWS FOR THE
PROVINCE OF ONTARIO AS WE
WORK FORWARD TO IMPLEMENTING
OUR 28.5 BILLION DOLLARS INVESTMENT
IN TRANSIT IN THE CITY OF
TORONTO.

[APPLAUSE]

The Speaker says NEXT question. The member for Timiskaming-Cochrane.

The caption changes to "John Vanthof. NDP. Timiskaming-Cochrane."

Vanthof is in his fifties, clean-shaven, with short side-parted gray hair. He wears a gray suit, white shirt, and checkered gray tie.

He says THANK YOU, SPEAKER.
MY QUESTION'S TO THE ACTING
PREMIER.
THIS WEEK THE PREMIER AND
THE FINANCE MINISTER TOOK TO
PARTISAN NEWS SERVICE ON A
TRIP TO NEW YORK CITY.
BUT MEDIA REPORT THAT THE
PREMIER'S OFFICE HAS REFUSED
TO DISCLOSE THE COST OF THE
TRIP.

Interjection: UH-OH.

Vanthof says WILL THE PREMIER TELL US
HOW MUCH THE PUBLIC WILL BE
PAYING FOR HIS TRIP TO NEW
YORK?
IT'S A VERY SIMPLE QUESTION.

[APPLAUSE]

The Speaker says MINISTER OF
FINANCE.

Fedeli says WELL, THANK YOU VERY MUCH
FOR THE QUESTION.
I CAN TELL YOU IT WAS A
GREAT HONOUR TO JOIN THE
PREMIER IN NEW YORK THIS
PAST WEEK.
IT'S INTERESTING, SPEAKER,
THAT SINCE WE HAVE COME OUT
OF THE BUDGET BLACKOUT
PERIOD, WE HAVE RAISED 4.6
BILLION DOLLARS FROM THE MARKETS,
AND HALF OF THAT, SPEAKER,
WAS IN U.S. DOLLARS.

[APPLAUSE]

Fedeli says THERE IS UNBELIEVABLE
CONFIDENCE FOR THE FIRST
TIME IN THE PROVINCE OF
ONTARIO.
THEY LOVED OUR OPEN FOR
BUSINESS OPEN FOR JOBS
MESSAGE.
THEY LOVED THE FACT THAT
WE'VE CUT RED TAPE, THAT WE
HAVE A JOB CREATION
INVESTMENT FUND, THAT WE'VE
CUT THE WSIB FEES OF 1.45
BILLION DOLLARS, THAT WE SCRAPPED
THE CAP AND TRADE, THAT WE
HAVE CUT THE HYDRO BILL SES.
WE ARE OPEN FOR BUSINESS AND
OPEN FOR JOBS AND THEY SPOKE
LOUD AND CLEAR WITH THEIR
CHEQUE BOOKS, SPEAKER.

[APPLAUSE]

The Speaker says SUPPLEMENTARY QUESTION.

Vanthof says WELL, THE PREMIER WAS
GONE, WE'VE SEEN THE
GOVERNMENT ANNOUNCE THEY
DON'T HAVE FUNDS TO MAINTAIN
STUDENT BREAKFASTS.
OUR TEACHERS IN THE
CLASSROOM
[INTERJECTIONS]
OR EVEN FLOOD MANAGEMENT
ONTARIO SCRAMBLES TO DEAL
WITH RECORD FLOODING.
AT THE VERY LEAST, THE
PREMIER OF THIS PROVINCE
OWES THE PEOPLE...
[INTERJECTIONS]
AT THE VERY LEAST...

The Speaker says ORDER.

Vanthof says THE PEOPLE OF THIS
PROVINCE DESERVE TO KNOW HOW
MUCH THIS TRIP COST.
OBVIOUSLY THE PREMIER'S
OFFICE DOES NOT HAVE
UNBELIEVABLE CONFIDENCE IN
ITS OWN NUMBERS.
IT'S A SIMPLE QUESTION,
DESERVE AS SIMPLE ANSWER.
THE TRIP COSTS "X."

The Speaker says STOP THE CLOCK.

[APPLAUSE]

The Speaker says THE MEMBER FOR NORTHUMBERLAND-PETERBOROUGH
SOUTH IS WARNED.
RESTART THE CLOCK.
MINISTER OF FINANCE TO REPLY.

Fedeli says THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
YOU KNOW, WE TOOK A FABULOUS
MESSAGE TO THE INVESTORS AND
THE BUSINESS PROSPECTS IN
NEW YORK.

[APPLAUSE]

Vanthof says THEY LOVED THE FACT THAT WE
ARE TRANSFORMING GOVERNMENT.
THEY LOVE THE FACT THAT WE
ARE MODERNIZING GOVERNMENT.
THEY LOVE THE FACT THAT WE
ARE DIGITIZING GOVERNMENT.
IN FACT WE TOLD THEM THE
STORY ABOUT EXACTLY HOW
FTHEY WENT TO THEIR D.M.V.
TO GET THEIR LICENCE
RENEWED.
NOW IN ONTARIO YOU CAN NOW
GO ONLINE TO RENEW YOUR
LICENCE.
YOU CAN NOW GO ONLINE TO
RENEW YOUR VEHICLE
REGISTRATION.
SO WE SHOWED THEM WHAT WE
MEAN BY DIGITIZING OUR
GOVERNMENT.
WE TOLD THEM THAT WE HAD A
PLAN TO SAVE 4 CENTS ON
EVERY DOLLAR SPENT AND IN
FACT OUR PLAN TO DATE HAS
RESULTED IN ALMOST 8 CENTS
ON EVERY DOLLAR SPENT IN
SAVINGS.

[APPLAUSE]

Vanthof says AND, SPEAKER, THEY WERE
THRILLED TO HEAR THAT NOT
ONLY ARE WE DOING THIS
WITHOUT INCREASING TAXES.
WE'RE RETURNING 26 BILLION DOLLARS IN RELIEF.

The Speaker says RESPONSE.

Vanthof says TO ONTARIO'S FAMILIES.
THEY FOUND THAT THE
SITUATION IS BETTER TODAY
THAN IT WAS 10 MONTHS AGO.

[APPLAUSE]

The Speaker says STOP THE CLOCK.
START THE CLOCK.
NEXT question. The member for

[APPLAUSE]

The caption changes to "Goldie Ghamari. PC. Carleton."

Ghamari is in her thirties, with long straight black hair. She wears a patterned gray blazer and a black shirt.

She says THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER.
I JUST WANTED TO WELCOME TO
THE LEGISLATURE THE ONTARIO
ASSOCATION OF FIRE CHIEFS
AND IN PARTICULAR FIRE CHIEF
PASCAL MENNIER FROM CARLETON
PLACE, KENT STEPHENSON FROM
BROOKS FALLS AND DISTRICT
AND FIRE CHIEF BRIAN WILSON
FROM ROCKLAND WHO I LOOK
FORWARD TO MEETING WITH
LATER TODAY.
ALSO A QUICK SHOUT-OUT TO
FIRE CHIEF KEN BYOTT FROM
OTTAWA WHO'S GOING TO BE
HERE TODAY.
MR. SPEAKER, MY QUESTION
TODAY IS FOR THE SOLICITOR
GENERAL.
PROTECTING CITIZENS IS AT
THE CORE OF OUR GOVERNMENT'S
WORK FOR THE PEOPLE AND THE
ENFORCEMENT OF MODERN AND
ROBUST FIRE SAFETY RULES
PROTECTS THE LIVES OF
CITIZENS AS WELL AS OUR HARD
WORKING FIREFIGHTERS.
AND, MR. SPEAKER, WE KNOW
THAT FIRE REGULATIONS ARE A
KEY PART OF ENSURING THE
SAFETY OF OUR COMMUNITIES.
THESE REGULATIONS AREN'T
ALWAYS ON TOP OF MIND FOR
EVERYDAY CITIZENS BUT THEY
HAVE A BIG IMPACT ON FIRE
SERVICES' ABILITY TO DO
THEIR JOB.
COT SOLICITOR GENERAL PLEASE
LET US KNOW HOW IMPROVING
THESE REGULATIONS ARE MAKING
FIREFIGHTERS AND CITIZENS
SAFER?

[APPLAUSE]

The Speaker says OPPOSITION
COME TO ORDER.
SOLICITOR GENERAL.

Jones says THANK YOU.
THANK YOU FOR THE MEMBER
FROM CARLETON FOR YOUR
IMPORTANT QUESTION BUT ALSO
FOR SERVING ON THE CAUCUS
ADVISORY TEAM FOR SOLICITOR
GENERAL.
YOU KNOW, HER ADVICE IS
VERY...

[APPLAUSE]

Jones says I THANK YOU.
I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO WELCOME
AND THANK THE FIRE CHIEFS
FOR JOINING US TODAY AT
QUEEN'S PARK.
IT'S AN IMPORTANT ADVOCACY
THAT YOU NEED TO DO TO
EDUCATE US AS M.P.P.S SO
THANK YOU.
YOU KNOW, YOUR OFFICERS, THE
BRAVE MEN AND WOMEN ON THE
FRONT LINES, KEEP OUR
FAMILIES SAFE.
AS A GOVERNMENT WE'RE
COMMITTED TO ENSURING
FIREFIGHTERS AND REGULATIONS
SUPPORT FIREFIGHTERS ACROSS
ONTARIO.
WHETHER YOU LIVE IN KENORA,
CAMBRIDGE, OTTAWA OR OXFORD,
I CAN ASSURE YOU THAT THE
REGULATIONS THAT WE PUT IN
PLACE ARE GOING TO BE
APPROPRIATE FOR THE
COMMUNITIES THAT YOU SERVE
AND WE WILL CONTINUE TO DO
THAT.
AS YOU KNOW, THERE ARE SOME
NEW REGULATIONS COMING
FORWARD IN THE EARLY SUMMER.

The Speaker says RESPONSE.

Jones says WILL MAKE AN IMPACT FOR
THE SERVICES AS WELL AS THE
COMMUNITIES THAT WE SERVE.
I WANT TO ASSURE YOU THAT WE
WILL CONTINUE TO MAKE SURE
THAT THOSE REGULATIONS ARE
APPROPRIATE FOR THE SIZE AND
THE SERVICE OF THE COMMUNITY
THAT YOU SERVE.

[APPLAUSE]

The Speaker says THANK YOU.
SUPPLEMENTARY QUESTION.

Ghamari says THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER.
THROUGH YOU, I WOULD LIKE TO
THANK THE SOLICITOR GENERAL
FOR HER RESPONSE.
IT'S SUCH AN HONOUR TO SERVE
ON THE CAUCUS ADVISORY
COMMITTEE AND TO WORK WITH
OUR FIRST RESPONDERS ALL
ACROSS THE PROVINCE.
MR. SPEAKER, FIREFIGHTERS
HAVE ALWAYS STOOD UP FOR THE
SAFETY OF COMMUNITIES AND
NOW THAT THEY HAVE A
GOVERNMENT THAT RESPECTS AND
SUPPORTS THEM AS THEY CARRY
OUT VERY DIFFICULT AND VERY
DANGEROUS JOBS EACH AND
EVERY DAY.
WE ASK THESE BRAVE MEN AND
WOMEN TO POTENTIALLY PUT
THEMSELVES IN HARM'S WAY TO
KEEP OUR LOVED ONES AND OUR
COMMUNITY SAFE.
AND IN RETURN WE SEE IT AS
ONLY FAIR TO SUPPORT THEM IN
THEIR IMPORTANT DUTIES.
AND THROUGH YOU,
MR. SPEAKER, COT SOLICITOR
GENERAL PLEASE TELL US MORE
ABOUT HOW OUR GOVERNMENT IS
PROVIDING BETTER SUPPORT TO
FIREFIGHTERS ACROSS OTTAWA
AND ONTARIO AND IMPROVING
FIRE SAFETY.
THANK YOU.

[APPLAUSE]

The Speaker says SOLICITOR
GENERAL.

Jones says THANK YOU, SPEAKER.
SO AS YOU KNOW OUR
GOVERNMENT VALUES THE
IMPORTANT WORK THE
FIREFIGHTERS DO AS THEY
PLACE THEMSELVES IN HARM'S
WAY.
I WANT TO ALSO GIVE A SHOUT
OUT TO THE VOLUNTEER
FIREFIGHTERS BECAUSE THEY
ALSO PLAY A VITAL SAFETY
ROLE IN OUR COMMUNITIES.

[APPLAUSE]

Jones says WHY WE AMENDED THE FIRE
PROTECTION AND PREVENTION
ACT THIS PAST FALL TO ENSURE
THAT FULL-TIME FIREFIGHTERS
CAN VOLUNTEER THEIR SERVICES
IF THEY CHOOSE IN THEIR HOME
COMMUNITY.
I WOULD BE REMISS NOT TO
HIGHLIGHT, SPEAKER, YOUR
WORK FOR MANY YEARS IN
OPPOSITION ON THIS ISSUE,
AND OF COURSE MY FRIEND AND
COLLEAGUE THE MINISTER OF
LABOUR TO BRING FORWARD THIS
AMENDMENT.
IT'S MADE A REAL DIFFERENCE
IN OUR COMMUNITY SO THANK
YOU.
THESE AMENDMENTS PROTECT
FIREFIGHTERS AND
MUNICIPALITIES FROM ANY
PRESSURE TO DISMISS
PROFESSIONAL FIREFIGHTERS
FROM WHAT IS COMMONLY
REFERRED TO AS DOUBLE
HATTING.
THIS WILL ALSO ENSURE
PROFESSIONAL FIREFIGHTERS
CANNOT FACE ASSOCIATION
PENALTIES FOR DOUBLE HATTING
AND TO ALLOW MUNICIPALITIES
TO INCLUDE THEM IN THEIR
SERVICE MODEL.
OUR GOVERNMENT IS RESTORING.

The Speaker says RESPONSE.

Jones says FOR FIRST RESPONDERS AND
INCLUDING FIREFIGHTERS AND I
WANT TO THANK THEM FOR THEIR
SERVICE.
THANK YOU.

[APPLAUSE]

The Speaker says THANK YOU.
NEXT question. The member for Hamilton Mountain.

The caption changes to "Monique Taylor. NDP. Hamilton Mountain."

Taylor is in her forties, with blond hair in a short bob. She wears black-rimmed glasses, a dark blue cardigan and a blue dress.

She says THANK YOU, SPEAKER.
MY QUESTION IS FOR THE
MINISTER OF EDUCATION.
YESTERDAY HAMILTON-WENTWORTH
DISTRICT SCHOOL BOARD
ANNOUNCED THAT 99 TEACHERS
WILL BE LAID OFF.
THAT'S ENOUGH TO STAFF TWO
FULL-TIME SCHOOLS.
I'VE HEARD FROM A MATH
TEACHER WHO LIVES IN
FLAMBOROUGH GLANBROOK WHO IS
ON MATERNITY LEAVE AND HAS
RECEIVED HER NOTICE STATING
SHE NO LONGER HAS A JOB TO
RETURN TO.
WHY DOES THE MINISTER AND
MEMBER FROM
FLAMBOROUGH-GLANBROOK THINK
IT'S OK TO GUT SKOOS IN
HAMILTON?

The Speaker says MEMBER FOR THE MINISTER OF EDUCATION.

Thompson says THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER.
QUITE FRANKLY WE DON'T.
WHAT WE'RE DOING IS
RESTORING TRUST,
TRANSPARENCY AND
ACCOUNTABILITY TO THE
PROVINCE'S FINANCES, AND WE
EXPECT OUR EDUCATION
PARTNERS TO WORK WITH US IN
THAT REGARD AS WELL.
YOU KNOW, THE D.S. N.
NOTIFICATIONS JUST WENT OUT
ON FRIDAY AND WE'RE GOING TO
BE WORKING WITH SCHOOL
BOARDS TO MAKE SURE THAT THE
EFFICIENCIES THAT ARE FOUND
WITHIN THEIR ADMINISTRATION
ARE NOT IMPACTING OUR
CLASSROOMS.
WE WANT TO WORK AND
ESTABLISH A PRECEDENT IN
TERMS OF MAKING SURE THAT
OUR DOLLARS, ONTARIO TAX
DOLLARS, ARE GOING INTO
SUSTAINING AND BUILDING AND
GROWING A LEARNING
ENVIRONMENT THAT IS
EFFECTIVE FOR BOTH THE
STUDENTS AND THE TEACHER
BECAUSE OUR NUMBER ONE
PRIORITY IS STUDENT
ACHIEVEMENT, AND WE CAN'T
LOSE SIGHT OF THAT.

The Speaker says RESPONSE.

Thompson says AND THAT'S WHY WE'RE
WORKING WITH OUR LABOUR
UNIONS AND WORKING WITH OUR
EDUCATION PARTNERS AND
INVITED THEM TO COME FORWARD
THROUGH TO MAY 31ST WITH
IDEAS, SUGGESTIONS,
OFFSET...

The Speaker says THANK YOU.

[APPLAUSE]

The Speaker says SUPPLEMENTARY question. The member for Sudbury.

The caption changes to "Jamie West. NDP. Sudbury."

West is in his forties, clean-shaven and balding. He wears a gray suit, pink shirt, and striped gray tie.

He says THANK YOU, SPEAKER.
THE QUESTION'S TO THE
MINISTER OF EDUCATION AS
WELL.
SPEAKER, IN THE GREATER
SUDBURY REGION, 51 HIGH
SCHOOL TEACHERS AT THE
RAINBOW DISTRICT SCHOOL
BOARD RECEIVED REDUNDANCY
NOTICES ON FRIDAY.
WHILE IN PAST YEARS THERE'S
A CHANCE FOR THESE EDUCATORS
TO BE REASSIGNED, THIS
GOVERNMENT'S CUTS TO
EDUCATION MAKE THE THREAT OF
JOB LOSSES VERY REAL.
THESE TEACHERS ARE NOT
RESIGNING, SPEAKER, AND
THEY'RE NOT RETIRING.
THEY CAN BE OUT OF A JOB AS
A DIRECT RESULT OF THE
CONSERVATIVES' CUTS TO THE
EDUCATION SYSTEM.
WHAT DOES THE MINISTER HAVE
TO SAY TO THE HARDWORKING
EDUCATORS IN SUDBURY
WORRYING THAT THEY CAN LOSE
THEIR JOBS?

Interjection: GOOD
QUESTION.

[APPLAUSE]

The Speaker says MINISTER.

Thompson says WELL, THE FIRST THING I
HAVE TO SAY TO ALL TEACHERS
IN ONTARIO IS, PLEASE, DON'T
GET CAUGHT UP IN THE FEAR
MONGERING WE'RE HEARING FROM
THE MEMBERS OPPOSITE DAY IN
AND DAY OUT.

[APPLAUSE]

Thompson says WE HAVE A HUGE MESS TO FIX
IN ONTARIO, AND EVERY SECTOR
HAS TO DO THEIR PART.
BUT I CAN TELL YOU, OUR
NUMBER ONE PRIORITY IS THAT
CLASSROOM.
IT'S THE LEARNING
ENVIRONMENT IN THE CLASSROOM
THAT IS ABSOLUTELY FOCUSED
ON STUDENT ACHIEVEMENT.
WE'RE STANDING WITH
TEACHERS.
WE'RE STANDING WITH STUDENTS
SO THAT TEACHERS, STUDENTS
AND ULTIMATELY PARENTS HAVE
ABSOLUTE CONFIDENCE IN WHAT
IS GOING ON AND HAPPENING IN
OUR CLASSROOM IN TERMS OF
ADDRESSING GETTING BACK TO
THE BASICS, MAKING SURE THAT
OUR STUDENTS HAVE THE JOB
SKILLS AND THE LIFE SKILLS
THEY NEED TO ENSURE A JOB OF
TODAY AND FOR TOMORROW AS
WELL.

The Speaker says RESPONSE.

Thompson says WHEN IT COMES TO MAKING
SURE THAT WE GET THINGS
RIGHT.
YOU KNOW, I HEARD THE MEMBER
OPPOSITE SAY THAT TEACHERS
RECEIVE NOTIFICATION OF
REDUNDANCIES ON FRIDAY.
THAT BOARD ONLY RECEIVED
THEIR G.S.N. ON FRIDAY.
THERE'S TWO...

[APPLAUSE]

The Speaker says THANK YOU.
THANK YOU.
STOP THE CLOCK.
RESTART THE CLOCK.
NEXT question. The member for Barrie-Innisfil.

The caption changes to "Andrea Khanjin. PC. Barrie-Innisfil."

Khanjin is in her early thirties, with long straight brown hair. She wears a black blazer over a white blouse.

She says THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER.
MY QUESTION'S FOR THE
ATTORNEY GENERAL.
I JOINED MY COLLEAGUES IN
THE HOUSE TODAY TO SOLEMNLY
MARK AND OBSERVE I DON'T
MEAN HASHANAH HOLOCAUST
REMEMBRANCE DAY.
THIS DAY IS ABOUT THE TRAGIC
LOVES MORE THAN 6 MILLION DOLLARS JEWS WHO PERISHED IN THE
HOLOCAUST AND HONOURS THOSE
WHO SURVIVED THIS UNMARKABLE
TRAGEDY.
SADLY THAT THREAT OF HATRED
IS NOT ISOLATED IN OUR
HISTORY BOOKS.
IN FACT THE CANADIAN CENTRE
OF JEWISH STATISTICS CITED
AN ALARMING SHARP INCREASE
IN HATE CRIMES IN 2017, WITH
INCIDENTS TARGETING RELIGION
UP TO 80 percent.
ANTI-SEMITISMTISM WAS A
FACTOR IN ONE IN FIVE
INCIDENTS AND WE SAW AN
INCREASE IN 400 HATE CRIMES
REPORTED TO THE POLICE OVER
THE PREVIOUS YEAR.
COT ATTORNEY GENERAL PLEASE
TELL THIS HOUSE HOW OUR
GOVERNMENT IS STANDING UP
AGAINST HATE?

[APPLAUSE]

The Speaker says THE ATTORNEY
GENERAL.

The caption changes to "Honourable Caroline Mulroney. Attorney General."

Mulroney is in her mid-forties, with long wavy brown hair. She wears a dark blue blazer over a white blouse.

She says THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER.
I WANT TO THANK THE MEMBER
FROM BARRIE-INNISFIL FOR HER
IMPORTANT QUESTION ON
ONTARIO'S 20TH ANNIVERSARY
OF YOM HASHOAH HOLOCAUST
REMEMBRANCE DAY.
THIS IS A DAY WE COME
TOGETHER AS ONTARIANS TO
MAKE SURE THAT WE NEVER
FORGET AND THAT WE ARE
VIGILANT AGAINST THE RISE OF
HATE IN OUR COMMUNITIES.
WE HAVE ZERO TOLERANCE FOR
HATE OF ANY FORM HERE IN
ONTARIO.
AND IT'S WHY I'M WORKING
WITH MY COLLEAGUES AND MY
MINISTRY TO CREATE A NEW
WORKING GROUP OF REGIONAL
HATE CRIMES CROWN
SPECIALISTS.
THIS NEW GROUP WILL ENSURE A
CONSISTENT APPROACH IS TAKEN
TO COMBATING HATE CRIMES.
THIS GROUP WILL WORK TO
CREATE CLOSER RELATIONSHIPS
WITH POLICE OFFICERS
INVESTIGATING THESE HEINOUS
CRIMES.
IT WILL ALSO WORK CLOSELY
WITH COMMUNITY PARTNERS TO
DEVELOP SPECIALIZED TRAINING
FOR OUR LAWYERS TO ENSURE
THAT THEY ARE SENSITIVE TO
THE UNIQUE ELEMENTS OF HATE
CRIMES AND THE DEEP IMPACTS
THAT THEY HAVE IN OUR
COMMUNITIES.

[APPLAUSE]

The Speaker says SUPPLEMENTARY QUESTION.

Khanjin says MR. SPEAKER, I WANT TO
THANK THE ATTORNEY GENERAL
FOR LETTING US KNOW ABOUT
THE IMPORTANT WORK THAT IS
UNDER WAY TO UPROOT THE
SEEDS OF HATE FROM OUR
COMMUNITIES, WHERE EVERYONE
DESERVES TO LIVE FREE OF
HATE AND OF INTIMIDATION
FROM VIOLENCE.
FROM THIS TERRIBLE PERIOD IN
OUR HISTORY HAS EMERGED A
KBLIM MER OF LIGHT WITH
REMARKABLE STORIES OF
HATE... FAITH, HOPE,
RESILIENCE AND DETERMINATION.
WE KNOW MANY SURVIVORS HAVE
EMIGRATED TO CANADA AND
SETTLED IN ONTARIO, AND WE
ARE FORTUNATE TO THE COUNT
THEM AMONG OUR NEIGHBOURS
AND OUR COMMUNITY LEADERS.
COULD THE ATTORNEY GENERAL
REFLECT ON THE IMPORTANCE OF
WORKING WITH AND HONOURING
THE STORIES OF THE VICTIMS
OF THE HOLOCAUST AND OUR
COMMITMENT TO NEVER FORGET?

[APPLAUSE]

The Speaker says RESPONSE.
ATTORNEY GENERAL.

Mulroney says THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER.
WE CAN NEVER STAND BACK AND
SEED GROUND TO THE RISE OF
HATE.
A PART OF THE RESPONSIBILITY
WE SHARE IS TO CARRY IN OUR
HEARTS THE STORIES OF
HEARTBREAK AND TERROR THAT
MANY OF OUR NEIGHBOURS AND
THEIR FAMILIES EXPERIENCED
IN THIS DARK CHAPTER OF
HISTORY.
I RECENTLY HAD THE PRIVILEGE
TO MEET MAX ISEN, A
REMARKABLE CONSTITUENT IN MY
RIDING OF YOK SIMCOE, WHO
SHARED HIS STORY OF SURVIVAL
IN HIS BOOK "BY CHANCE
ALONE."
IN IT HE WROTE AND I
QUOTE...
"I FOUND MYSELF IN THE MEN'S
LINE WITH MY FATHER AND MY
UNCLE.
MY GRANDFATHER, MY
GRANDMOTHER, MY MOTHER STILL
HOLDING BABY JUDITH, MY TWO
YOUNGER SIBLINGS AND MY AUNT
ALL MARCHED AWAY IN THE
OTHER GROUP.
EVERYTHING HAPPENED SWIFTLY
AND WE HAD NO TIME TO THINK.
I DIDN'T HAVE THE
OPPORTUNITY TO TALK TO MY
MOTHER, NOR DID OUR EYES
MEET, AND I WASN'T ABLE TO
SAY GOODBYE TO HER."
END QUOTE.
THE HORRORS THAT MAX ISEN
AND SO MANY OTHER FAITHS
CHALLENGE US TO KEEP
FIGHTING AGAINST THE RISE OF
HATRED IN ONTARIO.
WE CAN'T LET THEM DOWN AND
WE WON'T.

[APPLAUSE]

The Speaker says RESTART THE
CLOCK.
NEXT question. The member for Hamilton East-Stoney Creek.

[APPLAUSE]

[CHEERS]

The caption changes to "Paul Miller. NDP. Hamilton East-Stoney Creek."

Miller is in his late forties, clean-shaven, with short gray hair parted in the middle. He wears a beige suit, blue shirt, and printed gray tie.

He says THANK YOU, SPEAKER.
SPEAKER, MY QUESTION IS TO
THE SOLICITOR GENERAL.
IT'S BEEN NEARLY 10 MONTHS
SINCE 62 RECOMMENDATIONS
WERE MADE TO PREVENT
OVERDOSE DEATHS IN
HAMILTON-WENTWORTH DETENTION
CENTRE.
THE INQUEST WAS SPARKED
AFTER A WAVE OF INMATES
OVERDOSE UNDER THIS
CORRECTIONAL FACILITY, A
PROBLEM WHICH HAS... SADLY
CONTINUES SINCE THE
RECOMMENDATIONS WERE
RELEASED.
THIS WEEK, AN INMATE
OVERDOSED LESS THAN 24 HOURS
AFTER FAMILIES AND FRIENDS
HAD PLACED 15 CROSSES
OUTSIDE OF THE FACILITY TO
REPRESENT THE INMATES WHO
HAVE DIED SINCE 2012.
THE SOLICITOR GENERAL HAS
UNTIL MAY TO RESPOND TO
THESE RECOMMENDATIONS.
WHAT DAY THIS MONTH CAN THE
PEOPLE OF HAMILTON EXPECT
THE MINISTER'S RESPONSE?

[APPLAUSE]

The Speaker says QUESTION'S
TO THE SOLICITOR GENERAL.

Jones says THANK YOU.
YOU KNOW, THE MEMBER
OPPOSITE RAISES FRANKLY A
VERY TRAGIC ISSUE THAT IS
HAPPENING WITHIN OUR
CORRECTIONS INSTITUTIONS AND
FRANKLY WITHIN OUR SOCIETY.
WHEN PEOPLE CHOOSE TO USE
AND ABUSE DRUGS, IT HAS AN
IMPACT.
IT HAS AN IMPACT ON OUR
STREETS.
IT HAS AN IMPACT IN OUR
HOSPITALS.
IT HAS AN IMPACT IN OUR...

The Speaker says ORDER.

Jones says WHAT I AM DOING IS NOT
WAITING FOR RECOMMENDATIONS.
I'M NOT WAITING TO REACT.
WE'VE ALREADY MADE SOME
QUANTITATIVE CHANGES THAT
ARE SEEING IMPROVEMENTS BUT
IT TAKES TIME.
AS THE MEMBER OPPOSITE KNOWS
FULL WELL, THESE ARE NOT
ISSUES THAT STARTED 10
MONTHS AGO.
THESE ARE ISSUES THAT HAVE
BEEN ONGOING.
WE HAVE BEEN GIVING OUR
CORRECTIONS OFFICERS AND
STAFF ADDITIONAL TOOLS BUT
WE NEED HELP.
WE NEED HELP FROM
INDIVIDUALS.

The Speaker says RESPONSE.

Jones says TO STOP BRINGING ILLICIT
DRUGS INTO OUR JAILS.
WE NEED TO MAKE SURE
EVERYBODY UNDERSTANDS THIS
IS A SOCIETAL PROBLEM AND WE
WILL WORK COLLECTIVELY WITH
MY PARTNERS IN THE...

The Speaker says THANK YOU.

[APPLAUSE]

The Speaker says SUPPLEMENTARY.
THE MEMBER FOR NIAGARA FALLS.

The caption changes to "Wayne Gates. NDP. Niagara Falls."

Gates is in his fifties, with short black hair and a prominent moustache. He wears glasses, a light gray suit, white shirt, and spotted orange tie.

He says THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER.
MY QUESTION'S ALSO TO THE
SOLICITOR GENERAL.
THERE'S A CRISIS IN
CORRECTIONS UNDER THE
LIBERALS.
AND NOW THERE'S ONE UNDER
THE CONSERVATIVES.
IN MARCH, A CONSTITUENT FROM
MY RIDING, ANGELA CASE, SENT
THE SOLICITOR GENERAL A
LETTER.
SHE TOLD HER ABOUT HOW HER
22-YEAR-OLD SON DIED OF
FENTANYL OVERDOSE IN THE
NIAGARA DETENTION CENTRE.
SHE EXPLAINED THAT THE
DETENTION CENTRE WAS BUILT
TO HOUSE 125 INMATES BUT
CURRENTLY HAS 250.
ANGELA EXPLAINED WHERE THE
GOVERNMENT'S PROTOCOLS AND
REGULATIONS COME UP SHORT IN
PREVENTING THE DEATH OF HER
SON.
BUT THE SOLICITOR GENERAL
DIDN'T EVEN HAVE THE
COURTESY TO RESPOND.

Interjection: SHAME.

Gates says WHEN WILL THE SOLICITOR
GENERAL RESPOND TO ANGELA
AND TELL HER HOW THE
GOVERNMENT HAS CREATED A
SYSTEM WHERE PEOPLE OVERDOSE
ON FENTANYL INSIDE OUR
JAILS?

[APPLAUSE]

The Speaker says SOLICITOR
GENERAL.

Jones says YOU KNOW, I CAN'T IMAGINE,
AS A MOTHER, HEARING SUCH A
TRAGIC DEATH HAPPENING IN
OUR INSTITUTIONS, BUT I ALSO
WANT THE MEMBERS TO
UNDERSTAND AND APPRECIATE
THAT EVERY TIME THAT WE
ASSESS AN INDIVIDUAL WHO
COMES INTO OUR PRISONS,
EVERY TIME WE TAKE THAT 24
TO 48 HOURS TO MAKE SURE
THAT PEOPLE ARE NOT
SUFFERING FROM AN OVERDOSE,
IT IS A CHALLENGE, AND IT IS
A CHALLENGE THAT WE ARE
DEALING WITH HEAD ON.
FRANKLY, THAT IS WHY LAST
WEEK, WE MADE AN
ANNOUNCEMENT OF A NEW
INVESTMENT OF A NEW JAIL IN
THUNDER BAY.
WE UNDERSTAND THAT YOU CAN'T
HAVE...

[APPLAUSE]

Jones says WAITING LISTS IN OUR
CORRECTIONS INSTITUTIONS.
WE HAVE NO CHOICE.
WE MUST TAKE THE PEOPLE WHO
NEED TO SERVE IN OUR
INSTITUTIONS.

The Speaker says RESPONSE.

Jones says THERE IS NO WAITING LIST
IN AN ONTARIO JAIL.
WE ARE WORKING ON IT.
THESE ARE ISSUES THAT HAVE
FESTERED QUITE FRANKLY FOR
MANY, MANY YEARS, AND WE'VE
ALREADY STARTED TO MAKE
INVESTMENTS AND CHANGES AND...

[APPLAUSE]

Watch: Question Period: Wednesday, May 1, 2019