Transcript: Question Period: Monday, August 13, 2018 | Aug 14, 2018

A still camera shows the Ontario Legislature. A caption on screen reads "Oral questions."

The Speaker stands. He's is in his fifties, clean-shaven, with short light brown hair. He wears a black robe.

The Speaker says IT'S NOW TIME
FOR ORAL QUESTIONS.
THE THE LEADER OF HER
MAJESTY'S LOYAL OPPOSITION.

[APPLAUSE]

The caption changes to "Andrea Horwath. NDP. Leader of Her Majesty's Loyal Opposition."

Horwath is in her fifties, with straight blond hair in a bob. She wears a yellow blazer over a floral print blouse.

She says SPEAKER,
BEFORE I ASK MY FIRST
QUESTION I JUST WANT TO SAY,
ON BEHALF OF ONTARIO'S NEW
DEMOCRATS AND I'M SURE ALL
MEMBERS OF THE HOUSE, OUR
HEARTS GO OUT TO THE TWO
POLICE OFFICERS AND THE TWO
CIVILIANS WHO WERE KILLED IN
NEW BRUNSWICK.
IT IS A TERRIBLE, TERRIBLE
TRAGEDY.
I'M SURE THAT THEIR WHOLE
PROVINCE AS WELL AS THE
COMMUNITY IS SUFFERING
GREATLY.
OUR HEARTS GO OUT TO THEM.
SPEAKER, MY FIRST QUESTION'
TO THE PREMIER.
IN LESS THAN A DAY, OVER
1,600 PEOPLE MADE CALLS TO
THE MUNICIPAL AFFAIRS
MINISTER AND TWO
CONSERVATIVE M.P.P.s.
THEN TELLING THE PREMIER TO
STOP HIS UNDEMOCRATIC
ELECTION MEDDLING.
WILL THE PREMIER LISTEN TO
THEM, SPEAKER?

[APPLAUSE]

The Speaker says PREMIER.

Premier Ford stands up. He's in his early fifties, clean-shaven, with short blond hair. He wears a gray suit, white shirt, and blue tie.

The caption changes to "Honourable Doug Ford. PC. Premier."

He says WELL,
MR. SPEAKER, DAY AFTER DAY
WE COME DOWN HERE AND THE
LEADER OF THE OPPOSITION
WANTS TO CONSTANTLY TALK
ABOUT SPENDING MORE MONEY,
ADDING MORE POLITICIANS, AND
ADDING MORE POLITICIANS
WITHOUT ANY CONSULTATION.
THEY WANTED TO GO FROM 44 UP
TO 47.
WE CONSULTED THE PEOPLE, AND
ON JUNE 7th THEY SPOKE LOUD
AND CLEAR.
THEY SPOKE LOUD AND CLEAR
THEY WANTED TO REDUCE THE
SIZE AND COST OF GOVERNMENT.
IT'S IRONIC THAT THE LEADER
OF THE OPPOSITION HAS NOT
COME DOWN HERE ONCE TO SAY I
WANT TO REDUCE HYDRO RATES.
I WANT TO CREATE GOOD PAYING
JOBS.
I WANT TO LOWER GAS RATES.
ALL THE LEADER OF THE
OPPOSITION WANTS TO DO IS
GET MORE POLITICIANS DO THE
BIDDING FOR HER DOWNTOWN
N.D.P. COUNCILLORS JOE
CRESSY, MIKE LAYTON AND THE
REST OF THE CRONIES
DOWNTOWN.

[APPLAUSE]

The Speaker says SUPPLEMENTARY.

Horwath says SPEAKER,
THE MORE DID NOT RUN ON AN
ELECTION PLATFORM TO MEDDLE
IN DEMOCRATIC ELECTIONS.
HE DID NOT RUN ON A PLAN TO
MEDDLE IN DEMOCRATIC
ELECTIONS, AND THAT'S THE
WORRISOME THING IS THAT HE
DOESN'T BELIEVE THAT
PEOPLE'S RIGHTS TO VOTE FOR
THEIR REPRESENTATIVES SHOULD
BE PROTECTED AND I DO THINK
THAT THEY SHOULD BE
PROTECTED, SPEAKER.
I DIDN'T VOTE FOR JOE CRESSY
AND I DIDN'T VOTE FOR
MICHAEL LAYTON BUT PEOPLE
CERTAINLY DID, AND THEY
DESERVE TO HAVE THE
OPPORTUNITY TO VOTE FOR
THEIR ELECTED
REPRESENTATIVES.
NOT A SINGLE MEMBER OF THIS
CAUCUS ACTUALLY RAN ON A
PLAN TO MEDDLE IN DEMOCRATIC
ELECTIONS.
THE PEOPLE OF ONTARIO ARE
TELLING HIM CLEARLY TO STOP
ELECTION MEDDLING.
WILL HE?

[APPLAUSE]

The Speaker says PREMIER?

Ford says MR. SPEAKER, WE RAN ON
REDUCING THE SIZE AND COST
OF GOVERNMENT.

[APPLAUSE]

Ford says WE RAN...
WE RAN ON MAKING SURE WE
RESPECTED THE TAXPAYERS.
LAST TIME I DID A LITTLE
COUNT IN THE CITY OF TORONTO,
WE WON 11 SEATS, HALF AND
ACTUALLY IF YOU ADDED UP ALL
THE VOTES, MORE VOTES THAN
THE LIBERALS AND N.D.P.
COMBINED.
MY FRIENDS, ACTUALLY WE RAN,
WE RAN ON MAKING SURE THAT
WE SAVED THE TAXPAYERS'
MONEY.
EVERYONE KNOWS, EVERYONE
KNOWS AT THE CITY OF TORONTO
THAT IT'S DYSFUNCTIONAL.
NOTHING GETS DONE.
THE SCARBOROUGH SUBWAY HAS
BEEN UP FOR VOTE EIGHT
DIFFERENT TIMES THIS JUNE,
MR. SPEAKER.
THERE'S ABSOLUTE GRIDLOCK ON
OUR STREETS, AND THERE'S
GRIDLOCK AT CITY HALL.

[APPLAUSE]

The Speaker says FINAL
SUPPLEMENTARY.

Horwath says WELL,
SPEAKER, WE'LL SEND THE REAL
FACTS OVER TO THE PREMIER
AROUND THE VOTING THAT
HAPPENED IN THE DOWNTOWN
TORONTO AREA.
BUT LOOK, DESPITE THE
PREMIER'S SHUTTING OUT OF
THE PEOPLE OF ONTARIO BY NOT
ALLOWING COMMITTEE HEARINGS
ON BILL 5, PEOPLE FILLED THE
LAWNS OF QUEEN'S PARK
TELLING THE PREMIER TO STOP
ELECTION MEDDLING.
IN A SINGLE DAY MORE THAN
1,600 CALLS WERE MADE
TELLING THE PREMIER TO STOP
INTERFERING.
WILL THE PREMIER RESPECT THE
PEOPLE OF ONTARIO AND PULL
BILL 5 OR WILL HE BEHAVE
LIKE A DICTATOR BY USING
UNDEMOCRATIC LEGISLATION...

[INTERJECTIONS]

The Speaker says I ASK THE
LEADER OF THE OPPOSITION TO
WITHDRAW.

Interjection: DID YOU
HEAR WHAT HE SAID?

[INTERJECTIONS]

The Speaker says DID SHE
WITHDRAW?
PUT YOUR QUESTION, PLEASE.

Horwath says OR WILL
HE BEHAVE SO INAPPROPRIATELY
AS PEOPLE HAVE BEEN
CRITICIZING HIM OF DOING SO
FOR THE LAST NUMBER OF WEEKS
BY USING UNDEMOCRATIC
LEGISLATION TO SETTLE
PERSONAL BEEFS AND GO AFTER
HIS POLITICAL FOES?

[APPLAUSE]

The Speaker says PREMIER.

Ford says MR. SPEAKER, WE CAN SIT HERE
AND DEBATE ON HOW WE CAN
INCREASE TAXES AS THE N.D.P.
WANT TO DO.
WE CAN INCREASE MORE
POLITICIANS AS THE N.D.P.
WANTS TO DO.
INCREASE THE GAS PRICES AS
MEMBERS OF HER PARTY WANT
THE HIGHEST GAS PRICES IN
NORTH AMERICA, THE HIGHEST
CARBON TAXES.
OUR PARTY FOR REDUCING THE
COST AND SIZE OF GOVERNMENT,
REDUCING GAS PRICES, MAKING
SURE WE ELIMINATE THE CARBON
TAX, THE WORST TAX YOU COULD
PUT ON ANY BUSINESS OR THE
PEOPLE OF ONTARIO.
WE BELIEVE IN RESPECTING THE
TAXPAYERS.
THERE'S 25 M.P.s, 25 M.P.P.s
AND THERE'S GOING TO BE 25
CITY COUNCILLORS.

[APPLAUSE]

The Speaker says STOP THE
CLOCK.
BEFORE I ASK FOR THE NEXT
QUESTION I'M GOING TO REMIND
ALL MEMBERS THAT IT'S
AGAINST THE STANDING ORDERS
AND CONVENTIONS AND
TRADITIONS OF THIS HOUSE TO
IMPUTE MOTIVE AND I WOULD
ASK ALL MEMBERS TO OBSERVE
THAT RULE.
ALL MEMBERS.
NEXT QUESTION.
START THE CLOCK.
LEADER OF THE OPPOSITION.

Horwath says MY NEXT QUESTION'S ALSO
FOR THE PREMIER.
LAST WEEK THE MINISTER OF
MUNICIPAL AFFAIRS DODGED A
QUESTION ABOUT WHETHER THE
PREMIER HAD PERSONALLY
MEDDLED IN THE PEEL REGIONAL
ELECTION.
DID THE PREMIER TABLE BILL 5
CANCELLING THE CHAIR
ELECTION BECAUSE HE WASN'T
ABLE TO RECRUIT A CANDIDATE
TO RUN AGAINST PATRICK
BROWN?

[APPLAUSE]

Ford says WELL, AGAIN,
THROUGH YOU, MR. SPEAKER,
LEADER OF THE OPPOSITION, WE
RAN ON TWO DIFFERENT
PLATFORMS.
LEADER OF THE OPPOSITION RAN
ON INCREASING TAXES AGAIN,
MAKING BIG GOVERNMENT,
RATHER THAN COME DOWN HERE
JUST ONCE, JUST ONCE I WISH
I COULD SEE THE LEADER OF
THE OPPOSITION COME DOWN
HERE WITH SOMETHING THAT
WOULD RESPECT THE TAXPAYERS,
SOME COST SAVINGS.
MAYBE JUST A FEW CENTS OF
COST SAVINGS., MR. SPEAKER, WE'VE DONE A
LOT OF THINGS IN POLITICS
OVER THE YEARS BUT NOTHING
HAS BEEN MORE POPULAR FOR
THE PEOPLE OF TORONTO AND
OUTSIDE OF TORONTO THAN TO
MAKE SURE WE REDUCE THE SIZE
AND COST OF GOVERNMENT.

Interjection: HEAR, HEAR!

Ford says NOW IN THE
REGION, PEOPLE...

The Speaker says RESPONSE.

Ford says DON'T WANT
ANOTHER LAYER OF GOVERNMENT.
THEY DON'T WANT ANOTHER
LAYER OF ELECTED OFFICIALS.
EVEN THE MAYOR OF
MISSISSAUGA WROTE...

The Speaker says THANK YOU.

[APPLAUSE]

The Speaker says SUPPLEMENTARY.

Horwath says SPEAKER,
THE PREMIER DID NOT CAMPAIGN
ON MEDDLING OR INTERFERING
IN LOCAL ELECTIONS.
THIS IS ABOUT SETTLING
PERSONAL SCORES.
BEFORE TABLING BILL 5...

The Speaker says ONCE AGAIN,
I WOULD ASK ALL THE MEMBERS
TO STOP IMPUTING MOTIVE WITH
STATEMENTS THEY'RE MAKING ON
BOTH SIDES OF THE HOUSE.
ON BOTH SIDES OF THE HOUSE.
RECOGNIZE THE MEMBER TO PUT
HER QUESTION.

Horwath says BEFORE
TABLING BILL 5, DID THE
PREMIER PERSONALLY REACH OUT
TO PROSPECTIVE CANDIDATES TO
RUN AGAINST PATRICK BROWN
FOR PEEL REGIONAL CHAIR?
YES OR NO?

[APPLAUSE]

The Speaker says PREMIER.

[INTERJECTIONS]

Ford says THROUGH YOU...

[INTERJECTIONS]

Ford says YEAH., MR. SPEAKER, IT WAS
UNANIMOUS.
WHEN PEEL REGION VOTED, WHEN
MISSISSAUGA COUNCIL VOTED,
THEY DID NOT WANT THIS.
THE PREVIOUS GOVERNMENT
RAMMED IT THROUGH.
THEY ALSO RAMMED THROUGH
ADDITIONAL COUNCIL MEMBERS
OF THE CITY OF TORONTO TO
MAKE IT EVEN LARGER, MORE
DYSFUNCTIONAL, AND I CAN
ASSURE YOU, I CAN ASSURE YOU
THAT THE MAYOR OF TORONTO IS
QUITE HAPPY.
I CAN GUARANTEE YOU THAT.
HE'S QUITE HAPPY TO DEAL
WITH LESS PEOPLE.
HE KNOWS GOOD GOVERNANCE IS
NOT 47 PEOPLE AROUND THE
TABLE.
YOU CAN GET A LOT MORE DONE
WITH 25.
BY THE WAY, MR. SPEAKER,
WE'RE SAVING 25 MILLION DOLLARS.

[APPLAUSE]

Ford says THAT COULD GO RIGHT TO THE
POLICE TO START FIGHTING CRIME.

Interjection: HEAR, HEAR!

[APPLAUSE]

The Speaker says STOP THE
CLOCK.
ONE MORE TIME, I WILL REMIND
MEMBERS WE ARE NOT IMPUTING
MOTIVE IN OUR QUESTIONS AND
OUR RESPONSES.
START THE CLOCK.
FINAL SUPPLEMENTARY.

Horwath says MR. SPEAKER THERE ARE
RUMOURS THAT THE PREMIER
PERSONALLY TRIED TO RECRUIT
CHARLES SOUSA TO RUN AGAINST
PATRICK BROWN FOR REGIONAL
CHAIR.
SOUSA DID NOT RUN.

[INTERJECTIONS]

Horwath says INSTEAD THE PREMIER DECIDED
TO TABLE BILL 5...

The Speaker says THE
GOVERNMENT SIDE WILL PLEASE
COME TO ORDER.
I CAN'T HEAR THE LEADER OF
THE OPPOSITION.
I CAN'T HEAR THE LEADER OF
THE OPPOSITION.
ONCE AGAIN, I HAVE TO ASK
THE LEADER OF THE OPPOSITION
NOT TO IMPUTE MOTIVE.
WILL THE LEADER OF THE
OPPOSITION PLEASE PUT HER
QUESTION?

Horwath says AND
INSTEAD THE PREMIER DECIDED
TO TABLE BILL 5, WHICH
CANCELLED THE ELECTION
ALTOGETHER.
SO MY QUESTION IS DOES THIS
PREMIER THINK IT'S
JUSTIFIABLE TO TABLE
LEGISLATION AND CANCEL LOCAL
ELECTIONS WHENEVER HE CAN'T
PICK THE WINNER?

[APPLAUSE]

The Speaker says PREMIER.

Ford says MR. SPEAKER, LEADER OF THE
OPPOSITION RAN ON A LOT OF
RUMOURS.
THERE'S RUMOURS THAT SHE
MADE A MISTAKE OF 5 BILLION DOLLARS,
BUT IT WASN'T AT RUMOUR.
IT WAS THE TRUTH.
IT WAS THE ABSOLUTE TRUTH.

[APPLAUSE]

Ford says THERE WAS RUMOURS THEY CAN'T
DO MATH BUT IT'S ACTUAL FACT
THEY CAN'T DO MATH.
THERE WAS A LOT OF RUMOURS,
MR. SPEAKER, DURING THE
ELECTION.
BUT, MR. SPEAKER, THE PEOPLE
VOICED THEIR OPINIONS.
THEY VOICED THEIR OPINION ON
ELECTING 76 MEMBERS ACROSS
THE PROVINCE TO MAKE SURE WE
TURN THIS PROVINCE AROUND.
WE GET OURSELVES OUT OF THE
DEBT, THE 340 BILLION DOLLARS OF
DEBT THAT WE'RE FACING.
PEOPLE ARE SICK AND TIRED OF
PAYING THE HIGHEST HYDRO
RATES IN NORTH AMERICA.
WE'RE GOING TO CHANGE THAT.
WE'RE REDUCING HYDRO RATES
BY 12 percent, REDUCING THE GAS
PRICES BY 10 CENTS A LITRE,
AND WE'RE GOING TO PUT MONEY
BACK INTO THE TAXPAYERS'
POCKETS.

[APPLAUSE]

The Speaker says STOP THE CLOCK.
THE HOUSE WILL COME TO ORDER.
MEMBER FOR TIMMINS, PLEASE
COME TO ORDER.
GOVERNMENT SIDE WILL COME TO
ORDER.

The Speaker says OK.
NEXT QUESTION.
START THE CLOCK.
LEADER OF THE OPPOSITION.

Horwath says SPEAKER,
MY NEXT QUESTION'S ALSO FOR
THE PREMIER.
LATE ON FRIDAY, THE
GOVERNMENT ORDERED A HALT TO
PREVIOUSLY APPROVED OVERDOSE
PREVENTION SITES THAT THE
GOVERNMENT HAD PREVIOUSLY
APPROVED.
THE PREMIER IS INTERFERING
WITH LOCAL HEALTH CARE
EXPERTS AND FRONT-LINE
WORKERS WHO HAVE BEEN
CRYSTAL CLEAR.
THESE SITES SAVE LIVES.
WHY IS THE PREMIER PUTTING
LIVES AT RISK?

[APPLAUSE]

The Speaker says PREMIER?
MINISTER OF HEALTH AND
LONG-TERM CARE.

The caption changes to "Honourable Christine Elliott. PC. Minister of Health and Long-Term Care."

Elliott is in her late fifties, with long blond hair. She wears a pink dress.

She says I'D LIKE TO THANK THE
LEADER OF THE OPPOSITION FOR
THE QUESTION.
WITH RESPECT TO OPIOIDS AND
OTHER OVERDOSES OF DRUGS
MAJOR CONCERN TO US.
PATIENT SAFETY IS CRITICAL.
WHAT HAPPENED LAST WEEK IN
RESPONSE TO QUESTION FROM
YOUR MEMBER FROM LONDON WAS
THAT WE EXTENDED ONE CLINIC
TO SEPTEMBER 30th FROM THE
MIDDLE OF AUGUST TO THE END
OF SEPTEMBER, WHICH PUTS IN
ALIGNMENT WITH ALL OF THE
OTHER SUPERVISED INJECTION
SITES IN ONTARIO, WHICH THEN
BECOME... THEY CLOSED DOWN
UNLESS FEDERAL APPROVAL IS
GRANTED SO WE ARE PUTTING
THEM IN ALIGNMENT WITH THAT.
ARE WE GOING TO OPEN NEW
SITES UNTIL WE HAVE REVIEWED
THE EVIDENCE TO SEE WHAT THE
EVIDENCE SUGGESTS?
NO WE'RE NOT.
THAT JUST MAKES SENSE.
WE'RE NOT GOING TO PUT THEM
INTO OPERATION.
IN FACT A DECISION IS GOING
TO BE...

The Speaker says RESPONSE.

Elliott says WHAT WE WANT TO DO IS
MAKE SURE THAT WE KEEP THOSE
THAT ARE OPENED OPEN UNTIL A
DECISION IS MADE BUT PUTTING
A PAUSE...

The Speaker says THANK YOU.

[APPLAUSE]

The Speaker says SUPPLEMENTARY.

Horwath says SPEAKER,
PEOPLE CAN'T GET TREATMENT
IF THEY'RE DEAD.
DR. DAVID, DR. DAVID ZURLY
HEAD OF TOXICOLOGY AT THE
UNIVERSITY OF TORONTO HAS
SAID THIS AND I QUOTE...
THESE PLACES SAVE LIVES,
CONNECT PEOPLE TO ADDICTIONS
CARE, REDUCE THE SPREAD OF
H.I.V. AND HEPATITIS "C" AND
SAVE THE HEALTH SYSTEM
MONEY.
SAVE THE HEALTH SYSTEM
MONEY.
WE NEED MORE OF THESE SITES,
NOT FEWER.
HOW MUCH MORE EVIDENCE DOES
THIS PREMIER AND HIS HEALTH
MINISTER NEED, AND HOW MANY
PEOPLE WILL THEY LET DIE
UNTIL THEY'RE SATISFIED?

[APPLAUSE]

The Speaker says MINISTER.

Elliott says THANK YOU.
WELL, THE FACT REMAINS THERE
ARE A NUMBER OF THESE
CLINICS THAT ARE ALREADY
OPEN.
THE ONES THAT ARE NOT BEING
OPENED IN THUNDER BAY, St.
CATHARINES AND TORONTO WILL
HAVE TO WAIT UNTIL A REVIEW
IS DONE BECAUSE THERE IS
EVIDENCE ON BOTH SIDES.
WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE
REVIEW ALL OF THE EVIDENCE,
UNDERSTAND WHAT IS
HAPPENING.
WHAT IS HAPPENING THAT IS
SAVING LIVES.
WHAT ELSE CAN WE DO TO SAVE
MORE LIVES?
ARE THERE OTHER EXAMPLES WE
SHOULD BE LOOKING AT BESIDES
SUPERVISED INJECTION
CLINICS?
PATIENT SAFETY IS IMPORTANT.
EVERY SINGLE MEMBER OF THIS
HOUSE AND WE WANT TO MAKE
SURE IF WE DO GO AHEAD WITH
MORE SUPERVISED INJECTION
SITES THAT WE DO IT USING
THE BEST POSSIBLE EVIDENCE
AND THE BEST POSSIBLE
PRACTICES.

[APPLAUSE]

The Speaker says NEXT
QUESTION.
THE MEMBER FOR
ETOBICOKE-LAKESHORE.

The caption changes to "Christine Hogarth. PC. Etobicoke-Lakeshore."

Hogarth is in her late thirties, with blond hair in a bun. She wears glasses and a sleeveless black dress.

She says MR. SPEAKER, MY QUESTION
TODAY IS FOR THE MINISTER OF
COMMUNITY SAFETY AND
CORRECTIONAL SERVICES.
SPEAKER, OUR GOVERNMENT FOR
THE PEOPLE CAMPAIGNED ON A
PROMISE TO IMPROVE PUBLIC
SAFETY IN THIS PROVINCE AND
PROVIDE THE BRAVE MEN AND
WOMEN OF OUR POLICE SERVICES
WITH THE RESOURCES THEY NEED
TO PERFORM THE DUTIES SAFELY
AND EFFECTIVELY.
TACKLING GUN VIOLENCE AND
GANG VIOLENCE REQUIRES THAT
MEN AND WOMEN OF OUR POLICE
SERVICES ARE LISTENED TO AND
THAT THEY RECEIVE THE TOOLS
AND RESOURCES WE COMMITTED
TO PROVIDING THEM.
TO THE MINISTER.
HOW WILL THE NEW FUNDING
BEING PROVIDED TO OUR POLICE
SERVICES HELP TACKLE THE
PROBLEM OF GANG AND GUN
VIOLENCE?

[APPLAUSE]

The Speaker says MINISTER OF
COMMUNITY SAFETY AND
CORRECTIONAL SERVICES.

The caption changes to "Honourable Michael A. Tibollo. Minister of Community Safety and Correctional Services."

Tibollo is in his late fifties, clean-shaven and balding. He wears a gray suit, white shirt, and blue tie.

He says THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER.
THANK YOU TO THE MEMBER FROM
ETOBICOKE-LAKESHORE FOR HER
QUESTION THIS MORNING.
FIRST OF ALL, MR. SPEAKER,
SAFETY IS OF PARAMOUNT
CONCERN TO OUR GOVERNMENT.
RECENTLY WE ANNOUNCED 25
MILLION DOLLARS IN NEW FUNDING TO
SUPPORT THE TORONTO POLICE
SERVICE IN ITS EFFORTS TO
COMBAT GUN VIOLENCE, DISRUPT
GUN ACTIVITY AND CRACK DOWN
ON THE TRAFFICKING OF
ILLEGAL GUNS IN THE CITY OF
TORONTO.
TOO MANY PEOPLE,
MR. SPEAKER, AND TOO MANY
NEIGHBOURHOODS ARE LIVING IN
FEAR OF GANG AND GUN
VIOLENCE.
MR. SPEAKER, OUR GOVERNMENT
IS LISTENING TO POLICE AND
INVESTING REAL MONEY TO HELP
THEM KEEP THEIR COMMUNITY
SAFE FROM GUN AND GANG
VIOLENCE.
THIS PROBLEM IS BIGGER THAN
JUST TORONTO, MR. SPEAKER.
ORGANIZED CRIME...

The Speaker says RESPONSE.

Tibollo says THAT STARTS IN TORONTO
END UP SPILLING OVER INTO
OTHER COMMUNITIES.
TIME FOR TALK IS OVER.
IT'S TIME FOR ACTION.
PROMISES MADE, PROMISES
KEPT.

[APPLAUSE]

The Speaker says STOP THE
CLOCK.
RESTART THE CLOCK.
SUPPLEMENTARY QUESTION.

Hogarth says I WOULD LIKE TO THANK THE
MINISTER FOR HIS RESPONSE TO
THIS INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT
TOPIC, NOT JUST THE PEOPLE
OF ETOBICOKE-LAKESHORE BUT
THE PEOPLE ALL ACROSS THIS
PROVINCE.
THIS ANNOUNCEMENT OF
ADDITIONAL FUNDING FOR THE
TORONTO POLICE SERVICE IS
NEEDED TO ADDRESS THE
PROBLEM OF GUN AND GANG
RELATED VIOLENCE IN ONTARIO,
AND ESPECIALLY WITHIN THE
CITY OF TORONTO.
MR. SPEAKER, THE BRAVE MEN
AND WOMEN OF OUR POLICE
SERVICES DESPERATELY NEED
THE NECESSARY TOOLS AND
RESOURCES TO ADDRESS GUN
VIOLENCE, AND I NOT MINISTER
WILL CONTINUE TO DELIVER ON
THESE GOVERNMENT'S
COMMITMENT TO ENSURE PUBLIC
SAFETY ACROSS OUR GREAT
PROVINCE.
AGAIN TO THE MINISTER, WHAT
ACTIONS WILL YOUR MINISTRY
BE TAKING TO ENSURE THAT THE
STREETS OF TORONTO AND ALL
OF ONTARIO'S COMMUNITIES
REMAIN SAFE?

[APPLAUSE]

The Speaker says MINISTER.

Tibollo says THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER.
AGAIN I WANT TO THANK THE
MEMBER FOR HER QUESTION.
MR. SPEAKER, OUR GOVERNMENT
IS TAKING THE NECESSARY
STEPS TO HELP COMBAT GUN AND
GANG RELATED VIOLENCE SO WE
CAN RESTORE PUBLIC
CONFIDENCE IN OUR POLICE
SERVICES AND ENSURE OUR
STREETS AND COMMUNITIES ARE
SAFE.
MR. SPEAKER, TACKLING GUN
AND GANG RELATED VIOLENCE
REQUIRES THE BRAVE MEN AND
WOMEN OF OUR POLICE SERVICES
TO HAVE ACCESS TO INNOVATIVE
INVESTIGATION TOOLS AND
TECHNOLOGIES.
THIS NEW FUNDING WILL
PROVIDE OUR POLICE WITH
CUTTING-EDGE DIGITAL,
INVESTIGATIVE AND ANALYTICAL
TOOLS THAT OUR POLICE NEED
TO FIGHT THE GUNS AND GANGS
IN 2018.
MR. SPEAKER, I HAVE STATED
BEFORE IN THIS LEGISLATURE
THAT THE STATUS QUO HAS
FAILED AND WE ARE THE ONLY
PARTY IN THIS HOUSE THAT IS
PREPARED AND REMAINS
COMMITTED.

The Speaker says RESPONSE.

Tibollo says TO DOING SOMETHING ABOUT
IT.
PROMISES MADE.

Interjection: PROMISES KEPT.

[APPLAUSE]

The Speaker says NEXT
QUESTION.
THE MEMBER FOR
TORONTO-DANFORTH.

The caption changes to "Peter Tabuns. NDP. Toronto-Danforth."

Tabuns is in his late fifties, clean-shaven, with short white hair. He wears glasses, a gray suit, white shirt, and striped gray tie.

He says THANK YOU, SPEAKER.
SPEAKER, MY QUESTION'S FOR
THE MINISTER OF FINANCE.
NOT ONCE DURING THE CAMPAIGN
DID THE PREMIER COME FORWARD
AND DETAIL HIS PLAN TO SLASH
TORONTO CITY COUNCIL AND
CANCEL REGIONAL CHAIR
ELECTIONS.
NOBLE HEARD IT DURING THE
CAMPAIGN, FROM THE PREMIER
OR ANY CANDIDATE.
THIS IS A DECISION THAT WAS
ARRIVED AT QUICKLY, WITH NO
CONSULTATION IN A BACK ROOM.
THE GOVERNMENT CLAIMS THAT
THE PREMIER CONSULTED PEOPLE
ON THIS POLICY.
CAN THE MINISTER CONFIRM
WHETHER OR NOT THE PREMIER
CONSULTED WITH ANY FORMER
MEMBERS OF THIS HOUSE ABOUT
REGIONAL CHAIR ELECTIONS?

[APPLAUSE]

The Speaker says MINISTER OF FINANCE.

A voice says MINISTER OF MUNICIPAL
AFFAIRS AND HOUSING.

The caption changes to "Honourable Steve Clark. PC. Minister of Municipal Affairs and Housing."

Clark is in his fifties, clean-shaven and bald. He wears rounded glasses, a gray suit, blue shirt and indigo tie.

He says THANKS VERY MUCH, SPEAKER.
BEFORE I ADDRESS THE
QUESTION FOR
TORONTO-DANFORTH, I WANT TO
RECOGNIZE IN THE PUBLIC
GALLERY A GREAT
PARLIAMENTARIAN THE
HONOURABLE PETER VAN LOAN.
WELCOME TO QUEEN'S PARK.

[APPLAUSE]

Clark says SPEAKER, I'M VERY PLEASED TO
TAKE THE QUESTION.
AS I'VE STATED IN THIS HOUSE
MANY, MANY TIMES, THE
PREMIER CONSULTED TENS OF
THOUSANDS OF ONTARIANS AND
TORONTONIANS DURING THE
ELECTION.
OUR GOVERNMENT WAS BROUGHT
TO THIS HOUSE WITH A CLEAR
MANDATE.

Interjection: CRYSTAL CLEAR.

Clark says REDUCE SIZE AND COST OF
GOVERNMENT, AND THAT'S
EXACTLY WHAT WE'RE DOING IN
REGARDS TO TORONTO CITY
COUNCIL.
WE BELIEVE THAT HAVING 25
M.P.s.

The Speaker says RESPONSE.

Clark says AND 25 M.P.P.s AND AGAIN
HAVING THAT SAME ELECTORAL
DISTRICT FOR THE 25 CITY
COUNCILLORS IS A GOOD THING.
THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT'S IN
BILL 5, SPEAKER.

[APPLAUSE]

The Speaker says THANK YOU.
SUPPLEMENTARY.

Tabuns says THANK YOU, SPEAKER.
WELL, I'M SURPRISED MINISTER
OF FINANCE WOULDN'T ANSWER
THE QUESTION BUT I'M GOING
TO TRY IT AGAIN.
BEFORE THIS PIECE OF POLICY
SUDDENLY APPEARED IN THE
HOUSE, THERE WERE REPORTS
THAT THE PREMIER'S PEOPLE
WERE TRYING TO GET SOMEONE,
ANYONE, TO RUN AGAINST
PATRICK BROWN, WHO BY THE
WAY WASN'T RUNNING IN
TORONTO.
IS THE MINISTER AWARE IF THE
PREMIER OR HIS INNER CIRCLE
ATTEMPTED TO RECRUIT CHARLES
SOUSA TO RUN FOR PEEL REGION
CHAIR AGAINST PATRICK BROWN?

[APPLAUSE]

The Speaker says MINISTER OF
MUNICIPAL AFFAIRS AND HOUSING.

Clark says SPEAKER, I TRIED TO DO
THIS ON THURSDAY.
I WANT TO CORRECT MY RECORD
FROM THURSDAY IN RESPONSE TO
A QUESTION FROM THE MEMBER
FOR TORONTO-DANFORTH.
I USED THE WORD 10 percent.
I MEANT TO SAY 10 CENTS A
LITRE ON GAS PRICES.
SO I WANT TO CORRECT MY
RECORD.
THE SPEAKER IN THE CHAIR AT
THE TIME ON THURSDAY
AFTERNOON WOULDN'T ALLOW ME
TO CORRECT THE RECORD.
HOWEVER I THINK OUR RECORD,
WE WERE STRAIGHT WITH
ONTARIANS.
AGAIN REDUCING THE SIZE AND
COST OF GOVERNMENT IS
EXACTLY WHAT WE'RE DOING
WITH BILL 5.
WE BELIEVE AGAIN HAVING THE
SAME ELECTORAL DISTRICT
WHICH FEDERALs, 25 OF THEM
REPRESENT THAT THE
JURISDICTION IN TORONTO.
IT'S THE SAME ELECTORAL
DISTRICT THAT WE ON THIS
SIDE AND ON THAT SIDE OF THE
HOUSE...

The Speaker says OPPOSITION
WILL COME TO ORDER.
RESPONSE.

Clark says NO REASON 25 CITY
COUNCILLORS CANNOT REPRESENT
THE SAME ELECTORAL DISTRICT.
THE OPPOSITION, THE
N.D.P...

[Voice trailing]

[APPLAUSE]

The Speaker says THANK YOU.
NEXT QUESTION.
THE MEMBER FOR OAKVILLE.

The caption changes to "Stephen Crawford. PC. Oakville."

Crawford is in his forties, clean-shaven, with short brown hair. He wears a gray suit, white shirt, and spotted blue tie.

He says THANK YOU.
THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER.

[APPLAUSE]

Crawford says MY QUESTION IS FOR THE
MINISTER OF COMMUNITY SAFETY
AND CORRECTIONAL SERVICES.
SPEAKER, GUN VIOLENCE
REMAINS A CONCERN FOR MANY
ONTARIANS.
DURING THIS ELECTION,
MR. SPEAKER, OUR GOVERNMENT
FOR THE PEOPLE REMAIN
COMMITTED TO PROVIDING THE
BRAVE MEN AND WOMEN OF OUR
PROVINCE'S POLICE SERVICES
WITH THE RESOURCES AND TOOLS
THEY NEED TO PERFORM THEIR
JOBS SAFELY AND EFFECTIVELY
IN ORDER TO RESTORE PUBLIC
SAFETY WITHIN OUR
COMMUNITIES.
MR. SPEAKER, OUR GOVERNMENT
FOR THE PEOPLE REMAINS
COMMITTED TO ENSURING THAT
OUR POLICE SERVICES ARE
LISTENED TO AND WERE ABLE TO
RESTORE AND ENHANCE PUBLIC
SAFETY THROUGHOUT THIS GREAT
PROVINCE.
SPEAKER, WILL THE MINISTER
PLEASE EXPLAIN TO THE
MEMBERS OF THIS LEGISLATURE
WHAT ACTIONS HIS MINISTRY IS
TAKING IN ORDER TO ENSURE WE
TACKLE THIS PROBLEM OF GANG
AND GUN RELATED VIOLENCE?

[APPLAUSE]

The Speaker says MINISTER.

Tibollo says THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER.
I THANK THE MEMBER FROM
OAKVILLE FOR HIS QUESTION
THIS MORNING AS WELL.
MR. SPEAKER, DURING THE
ELECTION CAMPAIGN, OUR
GOVERNMENT FOR PEOPLE
PROMISED TO RESTORE THE 12
MILLION DOLLARS IN FUNDING THAT THE
PREVIOUS LIBERAL GOVERNMENT
CUT FROM THE FIGHT AGAINST
GANG AND GUN RELATED
VIOLENCE WITHIN THE
PROVINCE.
OUR GOVERNMENT FOR PEOPLE
HAS NOT ONLY KEPT ITS
PROMISE BUT WE HAVE DOUBLED
OUR COMMITMENT.

[APPLAUSE]

Tibollo says THIS NEW 25 MILLION DOLLARS IS NOT
ONLY THE VITAL FIRST STEPS
TOWARDS TACKLING GUN AND
GANG VIOLENCE IN THIS
PROVINCE, BUT IT WILL ENSURE
THAT OUR POLICE SERVICES ARE
PROVIDED WITH THE NECESSARY
TOOLS AND RESOURCES THAT WE
WILL HAVE COMMITTED TO
PROVIDING FOR THEM TO DO
THEIR WORK.

The Speaker says RESPONSE.

Tibollo says WITH THIS NEW FUNDING,
MR. SPEAKER, WE WILL ENSURE
THAT ALL ONTARIANS ARE ABLE
TO FEEL SAFE AND SECURE
WITHIN THEIR OWN
COMMUNITIES.
GUN VIOLENCE IS A MENACE TO
OUR COMMUNITIES AND WILL
NEVER BE TOLERATED BY THIS
GOVERNMENT.
THANK YOU.

[APPLAUSE]

The Speaker says SUPPLEMENTARY QUESTION.

Crawford says THANK YOU, SPEAKER.
I WOULD LIKE TO THANK THE
MINISTER FOR HIS RESPONSE.
WITH THE MOST RECENT
ANNOUNCEMENT BY OUR
GOVERNMENT FOR THE PEOPLE, I
AM CERTAIN WE CAN
EFFECTIVELY TACKLE THE ISSUE
OF GUN AND GANG RELATED
VIOLENCE IN THIS PROVINCE.
OUR GOVERNMENT FOR THE
PEOPLE IS LISTENING TO THE
BRAVE MEN AND WOMEN OF OUR
POLICE SERVICES WHO DESERVE
TO HAVE THE NECESSARY TOOLS
AND RESOURCES TO PERFORM
THEIR DUTIES SAFELY.
WITH THE RECENT ANNOUNCEMENT
OF THE NEW FUNDING TO OUR
POLICE SERVICES I AM PROUD
TO STAND HERE KNOWING OUR
GOVERNMENT HAS KEPT ANOTHER
ONE OF ITS PROMISES FOR THE
PEOPLE.
AGAIN TO THE MINISTER.
HOW WILL THIS NEW FUNDING
ALLOW OUR GOVERNMENT TO
TACKLE THE PROBLEM OF GANG
AND GUN RELATED VIOLENCE?

[APPLAUSE]

The Speaker says MINISTER.

Tibollo says I THANK THE MEMBER AGAIN
FOR HIS QUESTION.
PRIOR TO ANNOUNCING OUR
GOVERNMENT'S NEW INVESTMENT
OF 25 MILLION DOLLARS IN OUR POLICE
SERVICES, WE CONSULTED WITH
THE TORONTO POLICE SERVICE
INCLUDING CHIEFS MARK
SAUNDERS, ON HOW BEST TO
INVEST THE MONEY TO MAKE A
SUBSTANTIAL IMPROVEMENT TO
PUBLIC SAFETY.
WE BELIEVE THAT OUR
COMMUNITY SAFETY PARTNERS
KNOW WHERE THE RESOURCES ARE
NEEDED AND KNOW HOW BEST TO
UTILIZE THEM.
OVER THE COMING WEEKS, I
WILL CONTINUE TO MEET WITH
OUR COMMUNITY SAFETY
PARTNERS TO ENSURE THAT
WE'RE ABLE TO IDENTIFY THE
BEST POSSIBLE STRATEGIES TO
COMBAT GUN AND GANG RELATED
VIOLENCE WITHIN THIS GREAT
PROVINCE.
ONTARIANS DESERVE TO FEEL
CONFIDENT IN THEIR OWN
SAFETY AND THE SAFETY OF
THEIR FAMILIES.
TOO MANY ONTARIANS IN TOO
MANY COMMUNITIES.

The Speaker says RESPONSE.

Tibollo says ARE LIVING IN FEAR OF GUN
AND GANG VIOLENCE.
OUR GOVERNMENT IS LISTENING,
AND WE WILL CONTINUE TO TAKE
REAL ACTION TO KEEP OUR
NEIGHBOURHOODS SAFE.

[APPLAUSE]

The Speaker says THANK YOU.
NEXT QUESTION.
THE MEMBER FOR DAVENPORT.

The caption changes to "Marit Stiles. NDP. Davenport."

Stiles is in her forties, with feathered blond hair in a bob. She wears a pale blue blazer over a floral print blouse.

She says THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER.
MY QUESTION IS FOR THE
PREMIER.
SCHOOL STARTS ACROSS THIS
PROVINCE IN JUST A FEW
WEEKS.
DOES THE PREMIER BELIEVE
THAT KIDS SHOULD LEARN ABOUT
CONSENT, SAME SEX FAMILIES
AND CYBERBULLYING?

[APPLAUSE]

The Speaker says MINISTER OF
EDUCATION.

The caption changes to "Honourable Lisa M. Thompson. PC. Minister of Education."

Thompson is in her forties, with chin-length wavy blond hair. She wears a gray blazer over a black blouse.

She says THANK YOU VERY MUCH, PREMIER.
SPEAKER, THROUGH YOU TO THE
MEMBER OPPOSITE.
I APPRECIATE THE QUESTION
AND I, AGAIN, HAVE EVERY
ASSURANCE THAT TEACHERS ARE
GOING TO BE BEING VERY
RESPONSIBLE AND UTILIZING
THE CURRICULUM LAST USED IN
2014 TO PUT STUDENTS ON THE
PROPER PATH.
IN ADDITION TO THAT, IN
TANDEM.

The Speaker says ORDER.

Thompson says WHILE TEACHERS ARE USING
THE CURRICULUM LAST USED IN
2014, GOING TO BE FOCUSING
IN ON OTHER PROMISES AND
FOCUSES OF OUR CAMPAIGN.
WE ARE COMMITTED TO
IMPROVING MATH SCORES.
WE ARE IMPROVING AND
ADDRESSING EQAO.
SPEAKER, I MUST SAY WE NEED
TO REMIND IT'S A NEW WEEK SO
I'LL REMIND THE PARTY
OPPOSITE IN OPPOSITION THAT
EVEN THEIR FORMER DEPUTY
LEADER SAID PARENTS NEED TO
BE RESPECTED, AND THAT'S A
PROMISE THAT WE'RE GOING TO
KEEP.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

[APPLAUSE]

The Speaker says SUPPLEMENTARY.

Stiles says MR. SPEAKER, THIS REALLY
SHOULDN'T BE SO DIFFICULT.
IT SHOULD NOT BE SO
DIFFICULT.
IT'S A PRETTY STRAIGHT
FORWARD QUESTION THAT I
ASKED OF THE PREMIER.
THE PREMIER IS SENDING A
MESSAGE TO YOUNG PEOPLE THAT
MAKING CHARLES McVETY AND
TANYA GRANIC ALLEN HAPPY IS
MORE IMPORTANT THAN THEIR
SAFETY AND HEALTH.
THIS IS PANDERING, IT'S
DISGUSTING, AND IT IS
POTENTIALLY DANGEROUS.
WILL THE PREMIER STOP
PANDERING TO CONSERVATIVE
RADICALS AND ENSURE YOUNG
PEOPLE ARE

[INTERJECTIONS]

Stiles says CONSENT AND INCLUDING
CYBERBULLYING.

The Speaker says ORDER.

Stiles says AND HAVE THE TOOLS THEY
NEED TO BE SAFE IN OUR
PROVINCE?

The Speaker says THANK YOU.

[APPLAUSE]

The Speaker says MINISTER.

Thompson says SPEAKER, WHAT I FIND
DISGUSTING IS ALL THE FEAR
MONGERING THAT'S COMING FROM
THAT PARTY OPPOSITE.
IT'S ABSOLUTELY RIDICULOUS.

[APPLAUSE]

[INTERJECTIONS]

Thompson says SPEAKER, I HAVE EVERY
CONFIDENCE TEACHERS ARE
GOING TO BE COMING FORWARD
UTILIZING THE CURRICULUM
LAST USED IN 2014, AND
THEY'RE GOING TO GET IT
RIGHT...

The Speaker says COME TO
ORDER.

Thompson says I MIGHT ADD I HEAR THE
MEMBER FROM WATERLOO.
MAYBE SHE SHOULD READ THE
"KITCHENER-WATERLOO RECORD."
FROM LAST WEEK WHERE FORMER
LIBERAL HOUSE LEADER JOHN
MILLOY SAID THE LIBERAL
PARTY DID NOT GET THE
CURRICULUM RIGHT IN 2015.

[INTERJECTIONS]

The Speaker says STOP THE CLOCK.

[APPLAUSE]

[INTERJECTIONS]

The Speaker says THE HOUSE
WILL COME TO ORDER, PLEASE.
THE HOUSE WILL COME TO ORDER,
PLEASE.
START THE CLOCK.
NEXT QUESTION.
THE MEMBER FOR
SCARBOROUGH-GUILDWOOD.

The caption changes to "Mitzie Hunter. Liberal. Scarborough-Guildwood."

Hunter is in her forties, with long wavy black hair. She wears a beige blazer over a black dress.

She says THANK YOU, SPEAKER.
MR. SPEAKER, MY QUESTION IS
TO THE PREMIER.
THIS GOVERNMENT INHERITED
FROM THE LIBERALS AN ECONOMY
IN ONTARIO THAT'S DOING
WELL.

The Speaker says GOVERNMENT
SIDE WILL COME TO ORDER.

Hunter says THE LAST LIBERAL
GOVERNMENT...

[INTERJECTIONS]

The Speaker says STOP THE
CLOCK.
GOVERNMENT SIDE WILL COME TO
ORDER.
THE MEMBER FOR
SCARBOROUGH-GUILDWOOD HAS A
RIGHT TO ASK A QUESTION JUST
LIKE ANY OTHER MEMBER IN
THIS HOUSE.
THE SPEAKER NEEDS TO BE ABLE
TO HEAR THE MEMBER FOR
SCARBOROUGH-GUILDWOOD.
I WOULD ASK THE GOVERNMENT
SIDE AGAIN TO PLEASE RESPECT
THAT.
START THE CLOCK.
THE MEMBER FOR
SCARBOROUGH-GUILDWOOD.

Hunter says THE LAST LIBERAL
GOVERNMENT LEFT ONTARIO WITH
UNEMPLOYMENT AT A 20-YEAR
HISTORIC LOW.
JUST IN JULY, THE NUMBER IS
NOW AT 5.5 percent, AT A TIME WHEN
ONTARIO...

The Speaker says ORDER!

Hunter says IS DOING ECONOMICALLY
WELL, WHY IS THIS GOVERNMENT
TAKING US BACKWARDS AT HIGH
SPEED AND CANCELLING
PROGRAMS LIKE THE BASIC
INCOME PILOT AND THE PLANNED
INCREASES TO SOCIAL
ASSISTANCE?
MR. SPEAKER, A STABLE SOCIAL
SAFETY NET IS ESSENTIAL TO
SAFE, HEALTHY AND STRONG
NEIGHBOURHOODS.
DON'T YOU THINK THAT THIS IS
THE TIME TO INVEST AND NOT
TO MAKE CUTS IN PEOPLE'S
LIVES?
PREMIER, COULD YOU LIVE ON
721 A MONTH?

The Speaker says PREMIER.

Ford says WELL,
MR. SPEAKER, I WASN'T TOO
SURE WHERE THE MEMBER WAS
GOING.
SHE COVERED SO MANY
DIFFERENT MINISTRIES.
BUT I'LL TELL THE PEOPLE OF
ONTARIO WHAT WE INHERITED.
WE INHERITED THE HIGHEST
SUBNATIONAL DEBT IN THE
ENTIRE WORLD.

[APPLAUSE]

Ford says WE INHERITED THE HIGHEST
HYDRO COSTS IN ALL OF NORTH
AMERICA.
WE INHERITED SCANDAL AFTER
SCANDAL AFTER SCANDAL UNDER
THE LIBERAL GOVERNMENT.
WE INHERITED PEOPLE LOSING
300,000 MANUFACTURING JOBS
RIGHT HERE IN ONTARIO.
WE INHERITED A FINANCIAL
MESS THAT WE HAD TO GET
INQUIRY GOING.
WE'RE DOING A LINE
ITEM-BY-LINE ITEM AUDIT TO
FIND OUT WHO WAS GETTING
RICH OFF THE TAXPAYER'S
MONEY.

[APPLAUSE]

The Speaker says STOP THE
CLOCK.
THE GOVERNMENT SIDE WILL
COME TO ORDER.
THE GOVERNMENT SIDE WILL
PLEASE COME TO ORDER.
START THE CLOCK.
SUPPLEMENTARY QUESTION.

Hunter says SPEAKER, AGAIN TO THE
PREMIER.
MY QUESTION IS RELATING TO
THE PEOPLE OF ONTARIO.
THERE ARE 4,000 PEOPLE
PARTICIPATING IN THE BASIC
INCOME PILOT, AND IN MY
RIDING OF
SCARBOROUGH-GUILDWOOD,
38,000 PEOPLE LIVE ON O.W.
AND ODSP DAILY.
I AM ASKING THIS PREMIER TO
LOOK AT ALANNA, CARDY AND
CODY IN THE EYE AND SAY YOU
DON'T DESERVE AN EDUCATION.
YOU DON'T DESERVE PROPER
NUTRITION.
YOU DON'T DESERVE TO HAVE...
YOU DESERVE IN FACT TO HAVE
YOUR KIDS TAKEN AWAY FROM
YOU BECAUSE YOU CAN'T AFFORD
TO MAKE THE RENT.

The Speaker says GOVERNMENT
SIDE WILL COME TO ORDER.

Hunter says SHORT.
I MET WITH HARDY, CODY AND
ALANNA WHO ARE DEVASTATED BY
THIS GOVERNMENT'S CALLOUS
MEAN-SPIRITED DECISION TO
KILL THE BASIC INCOME PILOT
AND TO CUT O.W. AND ODSP
SUPPORTS.
THIS HURTS THE 38,000 PEOPLE
IN MY RIDING WHO RELY ON
THESE SUPPORTS EACH AND
EVERY DAY.
THE FORD GOVERNMENT SAID
THAT THE BEST SOLUTION IS A
JOB.
SO THROUGH YOU, SPEAKER,
WILL THIS PREMIER COMMIT
TODAY TO SAVING THE 400
BASIC INCOME SUPPORT
EXEMPTION FOR PEOPLE ON ODSP
AND O.W. AND KEEP THIS
INVENTIVE IN PLACE FOR...

The Speaker says THANK YOU.
PREMIER?

Ford says THROUGH
YOU, MR. SPEAKER.
I'LL TELL THE MEMBER FROM
SCARBOROUGH-GUILDWOOD WHAT
THE PEOPLE OF SCARBOROUGH
WANT.
THEY WANT A THREE-STOP
SUBWAY.

[APPLAUSE]

Ford says THAT THE GOVERNMENT WILL
DELIVER...

[APPLAUSE]

Ford says THE MEMBER FROM
SCARBOROUGH-GUILDWOOD WAS A
BIG STREETCAR CHAMPION.
THE ELECTION STARTED, JUMPED
OVER TO SUBWAYS, BACK TO THE
STREETCARS.
THE MEMBER OF SCARBOROUGH
GUILDWOOD SCRAPED THROUGH
THE ELECTION WITH 60 VOTES
TO WIN.
BARELY SCRAPED THROUGH.
BUT I'LL TELL YOU WHAT THE
GOVERNMENT GAVE US, WHAT THE
PEOPLE OF
SCARBOROUGH-GUILDWOOD GAVE
US, AND THE PEOPLE OF
ONTARIO GAVE US.
THEY GAVE US A MAJORITY
GOVERNMENT AND THE PREMIER'S
OFFICE.
THAT'S WHAT THE PEOPLE OF
ONTARIO GAVE US.

[APPLAUSE]

The Speaker says STOP THE
CLOCK.
THE HOUSE WILL COME TO
ORDER.
THE MEMBER FOR
PETERBOROUGH-KAWARTHA, NEXT
QUESTION.
START THE CLOCK.

[APPLAUSE]

The caption changes to "Dave Smith. PC. Peterborough-Kawartha."

Smith is in his forties, clean-shaven, with short gray hair. He wears a gray suit, white shirt, and gray tie.

He says MY QUESTION'S FOR THE
MINISTER OF ENVIRONMENT
CONSERVATION AND PARKS.
IN A RECENT "NATIONAL POST."
ARTICLE WAS THE QUESTION WAS
POSED, WHY ARE CARBON TAXES
SO UNPOPULAR?
SURVEY FROM AROUND THE WORLD
OUTLINED THE TOP FIVE
REASONS WHY CARBON TAXES
FAIL.
CARBON TAXES ARE REGRESSIVE,
ACTUALLY HITTING THE LOWER
INCOME HOUSEHOLDS THE MOST.
PEOPLE ARE WORRIED ABOUT
COMPETITIVENESS AND
EMPLOYMENT EFFECTS.
PEOPLE VIEW THE HIGH
PERSONAL COST TOO HIGH.
CARBON TAXES ARE BELIEVED TO
BE INEFFECTIVE IN REDUCING
EMISSIONS.
THEY'RE NOTHING MORE THAN A
TAX GRAB.
AND FINALLY MOST IMPORTANTLY,
THEY DON'T BELIEVE
GOVERNMENT CAN BE TRUSTED.
THE PEOPLE OF ONTARIO FEEL
THE SAME WAY.
I'VE HEARD THESE CONCERNS
OVER AND OVER AGAIN.
ACCOUNT MINISTER OF
ENVIRONMENT EXPLAIN WHAT THE
PLAN IS TO REBUILD THAT
TRUST AND HELP THOSE WHO
HAVE BEEN MOST IMPACTED?

[APPLAUSE]

The Speaker says MINISTER OF
THE ENVIRONMENT CONSERVATION
AND PARKS.

The caption changes to "Honourable Rod Phillips. PC. Minister of the Environment, Conservation and Parks."

Phillips is in his early fifties, clean-shaven, with short gray hair. He wears a gray suit, blue shirt and striped yellow tie.

He says MR. SPEAKER, THROUGH YOU
TO THE MEMBER FROM
PETERBOROUGH-KAWARTHA.
THANK YOU FOR THAT QUESTION.
I KNOW YOU WORK VERY HARD ON
BEHALF OF YOUR CONSTITUENTS.
THIS IS AN ISSUE ALL OF US
FACE IN THIS LEGISLATURE,
WHICH IS THE LOSS OF TRUST
AMONG ONTARIANS AND THAT
LOSS OF TRUST CAME FROM A
GOVERNMENT THAT DIDN'T
LISTEN.
OUR GOVERNMENT HAS TAKEN THE
TIME TO LISTEN.
THAT IS WHY WE WERE ELECTED.
WE HAVE PROMISED TO RESTORE
ACCOUNTABILITY AND TRUST AND
WE ARE HE DOING THAT BY
PUTTING MONEY BACK IN
PEOPLE'S POCKETS BY
SCRAPPING THE CAP AND TRADE
CARBON TAX, REDUCING GAS
PRICES AND HELPING THE JOB
CREATORS TO EMPLOY
ONTARIANS.
IN ADDITION WE'RE GOING TO
BE CREATING JOBS WHICH ARE
GOOD FOR FAMILIES.
OUR PLAN INCLUDING THE 10
CENT GAS REDUCTION, WILL
CREATE 14,000 JOBS IN
ONTARIO.
GOOD FOR ONTARIO FAMILIES,
GOOD FOR THE ECONOMY.
THE ELIMINATION OF THE CAP
AND TRADE WILL ELIMINATE
BILLIONS OF DOLLARS OF COSTS
FOR FAMILIES.
IT WILL BRING QUALITY JOBS
BACK TO ONTARIO.

The Speaker says RESPONSE.

Phillips says BY LOWERING THE COST OF
COMPETITION, STABILIZING
HYDRO RATES AND CUTTING RED
TAPE.
SPEAKER, THE CARBON TAX ERA
IS OVER.
ONTARIO IS OPEN FOR
BUSINESS.
OUR PLAN IS TO PUT PEOPLE
FIRST...

The Speaker says THANK YOU.

[APPLAUSE]

The Speaker says STOP THE CLOCK.
START THE CLOCK.
SUPPLEMENTARY.

Smith says THROUGH YOU, MR. SPEAKER.
I'D LIKE TO THANK THE
MINISTER FOR HIS ANSWER.
IT'S CLEAR THIS GOVERNMENT
HAS THE PEOPLE IN MIND AND
UNDERSTANDS WHAT ACTIONS
NEED TO BE TAKEN IN ORDER TO
REBUILD THE TRUST THAT THE
PEOPLE OF THIS PROVINCE LOST
OVER THE LAST 15 YEARS.
THIS GOVERNMENT HAS KEPT
MORE PROMISES IN THE LAST
MONTH THAN THE PREVIOUS
LIBERAL GOVERNMENT DID IN
THE LAST TEN YEARS.

[APPLAUSE]

Smith says WITH THE CONTINUOUS SLIP UPS
BY THE FEDERAL MINISTER OF
THE ENVIRONMENT IT APPEARS
THERE'S UNCERTAINTY TOWARDS
THE APPROACH OF THE FEDERAL
GOVERNMENT ON THE CARBON
TAX.
THE PEOPLE ARE CONCERNED
THAT THEY WILL IN TURN
INVOKE A TAX THAT WILL
REPLACE THE ONE THAT OUR
GOVERNMENT IS CLEARLY
FIGHTING SO STRONGLY TO
ELIMINATE.
CAN THE MINISTER ASSURE
ONTARIO RESIDENTS THAT WE'LL
DO EVERYTHING IN OUR POWER
TO ENSURE THE FEDERAL
GOVERNMENT IS NOT ABLE TO
IMPOSE THIS CARBON TAX ON
US?

[APPLAUSE]

Phillips says MR. SPEAKER, THROUGH YOU
TO THE MEMBER.
THE ANSWER, THE SHORT ANSWER
IS YES.
WE HAVE COMMITTED TO TAKE
EVERY STEP POSSIBLE, TO USE
ALL THE MEANS AT OUR
DISPOSAL TO FIGHT THE TRUDEAU
CARBON TAX.
WE DIDN'T GET ELECTED BY
ONTARIANS TO ELIMINATE THE
LAST LIBERAL GOVERNMENT'S
CARBON TAX WHICH WAS KILLING
JOBS AND BAD FOR FAMILIES
JUST TO HAVE THE FEDERAL
GOVERNMENT IMPOSE IT.
SO YES TO THE MEMBER.
WE ARE TAKING EVERY STEP
POSSIBLE.
MY COLLEAGUE THE ATTORNEY
GENERAL AS YOU KNOW IS
FOLLOWING THIS THROUGH THE
COURTS AND WE WILL CONTINUE
TO FIGHT IN THE INTERESTS OF
ONTARIO FAMILIES.
WE DID NOT GET ELECTED.
WE DID NOT PUT ONE OF OUR
FIRST BILLS IN THE
LEGISLATURE TO ELIMINATE THE
CAP AND TRADE CARBON TAX
JUST TO HAVE ANOTHER ONE
IMPOSED.

[APPLAUSE]

The Speaker says NEXT
QUESTION.
STOP THE CLOCK.
START THE CLOCK.
NEXT QUESTION.
THE MEMBER FOR SPADINA-FORT YORK.

The caption changes to "Chris Glover. NDP. Spadina-Fort York."

Glover is in his late forties, with short white hair and a boxed beard. He wears a gray suit, white shirt, and printed burgundy tie.

He says THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER.
MY QUESTION IS FOR THE PREMIER.
INCREASED GUN VIOLENCE IN
THE G.T.A. HAS DEVASTATED
FAMILIES AND SHAKEN OUR
COMMUNITIES.
IN THE WAKE OF THE HORRIFIC
SHOOTING ON THE DANFORTH
LAST MONTH, TORONTO CITY
COUNCIL HAS TAKEN ACTION
BRINGING FORWARD A MOTION TO
BAND HAND... BAN HANDGUNS IN
THE CITY.
IT IS OBVIOUS IN A CITY OF
2.8 MILLION PEOPLE THESE ARE
THE TYPE OF MEASURES WE NEED
TO CONSIDER AS LEGISLATORS
TO PROTECT OUR COMMUNITY.
BUT THE PREMIER'S REFUSAL TO
EVEN CONSIDER THIS POLICY IS
ASTONISHING AND IT SHOWS THE
LACK OF LEADERSHIP.
WHY DOES THE PREMIER REFUSE
TO CONSIDER POLICIES THAT
COULD SAVE LIVES?

[APPLAUSE]

The Speaker says PREMIER?

Ford says MINISTER OF
COMMUNITY SAFETY.

The Speaker says MINISTER OF COMMUNITY
SAFETY AND CORRECTIONAL SERVICES.

Tibollo says THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER,
AND THANK YOU FOR THE
QUESTION.
AS WE'VE SAID AND AS WE'VE
ALWAYS SAID, THE SAFETY OF
THE PUBLIC IS OF PARAMOUNT
CONCERN TO THIS GOVERNMENT.
OUR CONCERN MUST BE TO
ENSURE GUNS DO NOT GET INTO
THE HANDS OF CRIMINALS.
GUN VIOLENCE HAS NO PLACE IN
ONTARIO AND THESE BRAZEN
INDISCRIMINATE ACTS HAVE TO
STOP.
MR. SPEAKER, ILLEGAL GUNS
CROSS THE BORDER INTO OUR
PROVINCE EVERY SINGLE DAY.
THIS NEEDS TO STOP AS WELL.
WE WILL LOOK TO WORK WITH
THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT TO
ENSURE THAT SENTENCING IS
TOUGHER FOR CRIMINALS WHO
HAVE COMMITTED THESE ACTS
AND ENSURE THE BAIL SYSTEM
IS DOING ITS JOB TO KEEP OUR
COMMUNITY SAFE.
WE ALSO REMAIN COMMITTED TO
PROVIDING OUR FRONT LINE
OFFICERS WITH THE TOOLS AND
RESOURCES THEY NEED SO
DESPERATELY TO DO THEIR
JOBS.
THAT IS OUR COMMITMENT AND
THAT IS WHAT WE INTEND TO
DO.
THANK YOU.

[APPLAUSE]

The Speaker says SUPPLEMENTARY.

Glover says MR. SPEAKER, COMMUNITY
MEMBERS FROM THE ZERO GUN
VIOLENCE MOVEMENT CAME TO
QUEEN'S PARK LAST WEEK.
MANY OF THEM HAVE LOST
CHILDREN AND LOVED ONES TO
GUN VIOLENCE AND THEY KNOW
THAT POVERTY IS THE ROOT
CAUSE OF THIS ISSUE IN THEIR
COMMUNITY.
YET THE PREMIER'S FLAT
SOCIAL ASSISTANCE INCREASES
CUT 330 MILLION DOLLARS IN ANNUAL
MENTAL HEALTH FUNDING AND
SQUASHED THE BASIC INCOME
PILOT.

The Speaker says ORDER ON THE
GOVERNMENT'S SIDE.

Glover says PUSHING PEOPLE...
POVERTY.
WILL THE PREMIER SHOW REAL
LEADERSHIP IN ADDRESSING THE
ROOT CAUSES OF GUN VIOLENCE?

[APPLAUSE]

The Speaker says MINISTER.

Tibollo says MR. SPEAKER, AS WE'VE
STATED OVER AND OVER AGAIN
GUN VIOLENCE HAS NO PLACE IN
TORONTO OR ANYWHERE ELSE IN
THE PROVINCE OF ONTARIO.
GUN VIOLENCE DESTROYS LIVES
AND IS A MENACE TO OUR
COMMUNITIES.
WITH THE RISE IN GUN
VIOLENCE ON OUR STREETS,
IT'S CLEAR THE STRATEGIES
THAT HAVE BEEN USED UP TO
DATE HAVE NOT WORKED.
WE REMAIN COMMITTED TO OUR
POLICE SERVICES ACROSS THE
PROVINCE AND TO PROVIDE
OFFICERS WITH THE TOOLS THEY
NEED TO DO THEIR JOBS.
IN ADDITION TO THAT AS PART
OF OUR STRATEGY, WE WILL BE
CONTINUING OUR CONSULTATIONS
WITH COMMUNITIES TO
DETERMINE WHAT OTHER TOOLS
ARE NEEDED.
WE UNDERSTAND THAT THE ROOT
CAUSE OF GUN VIOLENCE IS
MORE THAN JUST THE USE OF
GUNS ON THE STREETS AND
THOSE ARE THE ISSUES THAT
WILL BE ADDRESSED THROUGH AN
INTEGRATED APPROACH.

The Speaker says RESPONSE.

Tibollo says THROUGH OUR HEALTH,
THROUGH OUR HOUSING AND
THROUGH THE OTHER MINISTRIES
AS WE DEVELOP A TOTAL
STRATEGY.
THANK YOU.

[APPLAUSE]

The Speaker says THANK YOU
VERY MUCH.
NEXT QUESTION.
THE MEMBER FOR
SCARBOROUGH-AGINCOURT.

The caption changes to "Aris Babikian. PC. Scarborough-Agincourt."

Babikian is in his sixties, clean-shaven and balding. He wears glasses, a gray suit, blue shirt, and blue tie.

He says GOOD MORNING, MR. SPEAKER.

[APPLAUSE]

Babikian says MY QUESTION IS TO MINISTER
OF MUNICIPAL AFFAIRS AND
HOUSING.
MINISTER, PREMIER FORD SPOKE
TO THOUSANDS OF ONTARIANS IN
TORONTO AND RIGHT ACROSS THE
PROVINCE DURING THE RECENT
PROVINCIAL CAMPAIGN.
THEY TOLD HIM THEY WERE SICK
AND TIRED OF BIG GOVERNMENT
THAT WASTES THEIR TAX
DOLLARS AND FAILS TO FIX THE
PROBLEMS IN THEIR DAY-TO-DAY
LIVES.
OUR BROAD CONSULTATION GIVES
US CONFIDENCE WE ARE ON THE
RIGHT TRACK WITH OUR PLAN TO
REDUCE THE SIZE AND THE COST
OF TORONTO COUNCIL AND TO
MAKE IT WORK FOR THE PEOPLE
OF THIS GREAT CITY.
MINISTER, WHO WAS CONSULTED
ON THE DECISION TO INCREASE
THE CITY COUNCIL TO 47
MEMBERS?

[APPLAUSE]

The Speaker says MINISTER OF
MUNICIPAL AFFAIRS AND HOUSING.

Clark says THANK YOU, SPEAKER.
I WANT TO THANK THE MEMBER
FOR SCARBOROUGH-AGINCOURT
FOR THAT EXCELLENT QUESTION.
THE IDEA THE BOUNDARY REVIEW
HAD TREMENDOUS PUBLIC
SUPPORT IS A MYTH.
IN THE O.M.B. APPEAL EXPERT
WITNESS PROFESSOR ANDREW
SANKTON NOTED NO RECORD WAS
KEPT OF THE 192 PEOPLE WHO
APPEARED AT PUBLIC MEETINGS
OR THE 600 WHO FILLED OUT AN
ONLINE SURVEY.
DID THE SAME TEN PEOPLE
ATTEND MEETINGS AND COUNT AS
100 PARTICIPANTS?
WE ACTUALLY DON'T KNOW.
HE SAID BEING CHARITABLE,
THEY HEARD FROM 2,000
PEOPLE.
THAT'S 0.1 percent OF THE CITY'S
ELECTORS.
IN SANKTON'S WORDS, A TINY
SELF SELECTING GROUP OF
ENGAGED CITIZENS AND
COUNCILLORS.
SPEAKER, THAT'S NOT
CONSULTATION.
THAT'S AN ECHO CHAMBER.

[APPLAUSE]

The Speaker says SUPPLEMENTARY.

Babikian says THANK YOU, MINISTER.
IT HELPS EXPLAIN HOW THE
REVIEW COULD HAVE COME UP
WITH THE RIDICULOUS
RECOMMENDATION TO MAKE
COUNCIL BIGGER WHEN IT WAS
ALREADY DYSFUNCTIONAL.
CERTAINLY IT WAS A VERY
SURPRISING OUTCOME FOR
TORONTONIANS, BECAUSE FOR
YEARS MANY PEOPLE, INCLUDING
SOME COUNCILLORS, TRIED TO
CUT THE SIZE OF COUNCIL IN
HALF, BUT LIKE THE N.D.P.,
COUNCILLORS WHO LOVE BIG
GOVERNMENT ALWAYS VOTED TO
PUT THEIR INTERESTS AHEAD OF
CREATING A SMALLER, MORE
EFFECTIVE COUNCIL.

Interjection: HEAR, HEAR!

Babikian says MINISTER, CAN YOU TELL US
HOW THE LACK OF PUBLIC
PARTICIPATION AFFECTED THE
OUTCOME OF THE BOUNDARY REVIEW?

[APPLAUSE]

The Speaker says MINISTER.

Clark says AGAIN, SPEAKER, THANK YOU
TO THE MEMBER FOR THAT
QUESTION.
WITH SO FEW PUBLIC MEMBERS
BEING INVOLVED, THE LOUDEST
VOICES DURING THE BOUNDARY
REVIEW WERE THE INCUMBENT
COUNCILLORS.
THE RESULTS SAID PROFESSOR
SANKTON THE INTERESTS WERE
THOSE OF INCUMBENT
COUNCILLORS AND NOT THE
PUBLIC INTEREST.
HE CONCLUDED THERE'S
ABSOLUTELY NO EVIDENCE OF
BROAD PUBLIC SUPPORT FOR A
LARGER COUNCIL.
WHEN YOU SPEAK TO
POLITICIANS, YOU GET BIGGER
GOVERNMENT.
BUT WHEN YOU SPEAK TO REAL
PEOPLE, LIKE PREMIER FORD
DID, YOU UNDERSTAND THAT
THEY WANT A SMALLER MORE
EFFECTIVE GOVERNMENT THAT
PUTS PEOPLE FIRST AND THAT'S
EXACTLY WHAT WE'RE DOING
WITH BILL 5, THE BETTER
LOCAL GOVERNMENT ACT.
THAT'S WHAT WE'RE DOING.

[APPLAUSE]

The Speaker says START THE
CLOCK.
THE MEMBER FOR BRAMPTON EAST.

The caption changes to "Gurratan Singh. NDP. Brampton East."

Singh is in his late thirties, with a prominent full beard. He wears a bright pink turban, glasses, a gray suit, white shirt, and gray tie.

He says MR. SPEAKER, MY QUESTION
IS FOR THE PREMIER.
AUTO INSURANCE POSTAL CODE
DISCRIMINATION IS A SHAMEFUL
PRACTICE THAT IS HURTING
ONTARIO DRIVERS.
IN THE LAST YEAR ALONE, MY
COMMUNITY OF BRAMPTON HAS
SEEN PREMIUMS INCREASE AT A
RATE THAT IS NEARLY FIVE
TIMES HIGHER THAN THE
PROVINCIAL AVERAGE.
WILL THE PREMIER TODAY, IN
THIS HOUSE, COMMIT TO ENDING
THE UNJUST TAXES OF POSTAL
CODE DISCRIMINATION?
AND IF SO, WHEN CAN ONTARIANS
EXPECT THIS CHANGE TO
HAPPEN?

[APPLAUSE]

The Speaker says PREMIER.

Ford says MINISTER OF FINANCE.

The caption changes to "Honourable Victor Fedeli. Minister of Finance."

Fedeli is in his fifties, with short white hair and glasses. He wears a gray suit, white shirt and yellow tie, with a golden pin on his left lapel.

He says THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
I WANT TO THANK THE MEMBER
FOR THE QUESTION.
SPEAKER, THERE ARE NEARLY TEN
MILLION DOLLARS DRIVERS IN ONTARIO WHO
EXPECT THIS PROVINCE TO DO
EVERYTHING WE CAN TO LOWER
AUTO INSURANCE RATES AND MAKE
TRAVEL MORE AFFORDABLE.
BUT SPEAKER, WHAT WE KNOW SO
FAR IS THAT THE DEAL THE
OFFICIAL OPPOSITION BROKERED
WITH THE LIBERALS ON AUTO
INSURANCE HAS BEEN AN
ABJECT FAILURE.
RATES ARE NOWHERE NEAR THE
15 percent REDUCTION THAT WAS
PROMISED BY THE LIBERALS IN
A DEAL BROKERED BY THE
N.D.P. IN NOTHING MORE THAN
A PHOTO OP, SPEAKER.
ABSOLUTELY NOTHING MORE THAN
A PHOTO OP.

Interjection: DREADFUL.

Fedeli says MEANWHILE, SPEAKER, WE
WILL CONTINUE TO WORK WITH
THE INDUSTRY AND THE
REGULATORS TO DO EVERYTHING
WE CAN TO LOWER INSURANCE
RATES IN A RESPONSIBLE
MANNER.
THANK YOU, SPEAKER.

[APPLAUSE]

The Speaker says SUPPLEMENTARY.

Singh says MR. SPEAKER, I AM FRANKLY
SHOCKED BY THIS ANSWER.
I EXPECTED EVEN ANSWER FROM
THE PREMIER.
JUST FOUR DAYS AGO, THE
PREMIER TOLD...

The Speaker says ORDER.

Singh says MEMBERS OF THE PUNJABI
MEDIA THAT THEY WOULD EXPECT
TO SEE POSTAL CODE
DISCRIMINATION ENDED BEFORE
CHRISTMAS.
WHY IS THE PREMIER
IMMEDIATELY BREAKING HIS
PROMISE OF PUTTING THE
INTERESTS OF PRIVATE AUTO
INSURANCE COMPANIES AHEAD OF
THE PEOPLE OF ONTARIO?

[APPLAUSE]

The Speaker says MINISTER OF
FINANCE.

Fedeli says THANK YOU.
ONCE AGAIN, SPEAKER, THE
OFFICIAL OPPOSITION NOW HAS
ABSOLUTELY NOTHING
WHATSOEVER TO SHOW FOR THAT
POLITICALLY MOTIVATED DEAL
THAT THEY MADE, EXCEPT FOR
THE FACT THAT ONTARIO
DRIVERS ARE CONTINUING TO
PAY THE AMOUNT WHICH IS
AMONGST THE HIGHEST PREMIUMS
IN CANADA.
SPEAKER, QUITE FRANKLY THE
N.D.P. SHOULD BE ABSOLUTELY
ASHAMED THAT THEY BROKERED A
DEAL THAT WAS NOTHING AT ALL,
NOTHING AT ALL OTHER THAN AN
ABSOLUTE PHOTO OP BACK IN
THAT DAY, SPEAKER.
AUTO INSURANCE RATES ARE
INDEED LINKED TO CLAIM COSTS,
SPEAKER, IN A DEAL THAT ONCE
AGAIN ONLY EXISTS BECAUSE OF
THIS BROKERED DEAL.
SO, SPEAKER, WE WILL
CONTINUE TO WORK.
WE WILL CONTINUE TO WORK
WITH INDUSTRY.

The Speaker says RESPONSE.

Fedeli says AND REGULATORS TO DO
EVERYTHING WE CAN TO MAKE A
REAL DIFFERENCE IN AUTO
INSURANCE RATES, NOT ANOTHER
PHOTO OP.

[APPLAUSE]

The Speaker says NEXT
QUESTION.
THE MEMBER FOR CARLETON.

The caption changes to "Goldie Ghamari. PC. Carleton."

Ghamari is in her thirties, with long straight black hair. She wears a short-sleeved white dress.

She says THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER.
MY QUESTION IS FOR THE
MINISTER OF TOURISM, CULTURE
AND SPORT.
MR. SPEAKER, LAST WEEK I WAS
SHOCKED TO READ THAT THE
CITY OF VICTORIA INTENDED TO
TAKE DOWN A STATUE OF SIR
JOHN A. MACDONALD.
THESE ATTEMPTS TO ERASE
PARTS OF OUR HISTORY DO
NOTHING TO EDUCATE PEOPLE
AND ARE ONLY POLITICAL
CORRECTNESS RUN AMOK.
CAN THE MINISTER INFORM THE
HOUSE WHAT OUR GOVERNMENT
INTENDS TO DO TO PRESERVE
JOHN A. MacDONALD'S LEGACY
AND ENCOURAGE A MORE FULSOME
TEACHING OF CANADIAN HISTORY?

[APPLAUSE]

The caption changes to "Honourable Sylvia Jones. PC. Minister of Tourism, Culture and Sport."

Jones is in her sixties, with wavy blond hair to her shoulders. She wears glasses, a pink blazer and a floral print dress.

She says THANK YOU TO THE MEMBER
FROM CARLETON FOR HER
QUESTION.
IT'S AN IMPORTANT ONE.
SIR JOHN A. MACDONALD PLAY
AS CENTRAL ROLE IN OUR
NATIONAL STORY.
HE DID MORE TO FOUND OUR
NATION THAN ANY OTHER FATHER
OF CONFEDERATION.

[APPLAUSE]

Jones says IN FACT WE WOULD NOT BE
DEBATING HERE TODAY WITHOUT
SIR JOHN A..
THAT'S WHY OUR GOVERNMENT
WROTE TO SAY WE'D BE HAPPY
TO GIVE SIR JOHN A. A NEW
HOME HERE IN ONTARIO.

[APPLAUSE]

Jones says MEMBERS WILL NOTE, WHEN THEY
DEPART THIS CHAMBER, THE
FIRST PORTRAIT YOU SEE IS OF
COURSE THE FATHERS OF
CONFEDERATION.
AND A STATUE OF OUR FIRST
PRIME MINISTER STANDS
PROUDLY AT THE SOUTHERN END
OF THE GROUNDS OF QUEEN'S
PARK.
HISTORY MATTERS AND WE NEED
TO ACKNOWLEDGE THE IMPORTANT
ROLE SIR JOHN A. MACDONALD
PLAYED IN CANADA AND
ONTARIO'S HISTORY.

[APPLAUSE]

The Speaker says SUPPLEMENTARY.

Ghamari says MR. SPEAKER, BACK TO THE
MINISTER.
I THANK THE MINISTER FOR HER
ANSWER.
1867 WAS A DIFFERENT TIME
AND WE SHOULD NOT JUDGE OUR
FOUNDING FATHERS SOLELY ON
THE KNOWLEDGE WE PROCESS
TODAY.
AS THE SAYING GOES THOSE WHO
DO NOT LEARN FROM HISTORY
ARE DOOMED TO REPEAT T.TO
QUOTE MINISTER SMITH'S
LETTER, HE SAYS THAT WE
SHOULD BE TREATING JOHN A.
MacDONALD'S LEGACY AS A
BETTER WAY TO LEARN OUR OWN
HISTORY.
CAN THE MINISTER TELL THE
HOUSE HOW BRINGING THE
STATUE OF JOHN A. MacDONALD
TO ONTARIO WOULD HELP
ONTARIANS WITH OUR
COMPLICATED HISTORY?

[APPLAUSE]

The Speaker says MINISTER.

Jones says AGAIN THROUGH THE SPEAKER,
THANK YOU TO THE MEMBER FOR
HER QUESTION.
THERE'S NO DENYING THAT SIR
JOHN A.'s ROLE IN OUR
HISTORY IS A CAUSE FOR MUCH
DISCUSSION BECAUSE HISTORY
IS COMPLICATED.
PEOPLE ARE COMPLICATED.
BUT THERE IS NO DOUBT THAT
125 YEARS AGO, AFTER HIS
DEATH, OUR FIRST PRIME
MINISTER STANDS AS AN
IMPORTANT CANADIAN WITHIN
THE CREATION OF OUR COUNTRY.
WE ENCOURAGE ONTARIANS TO
LEARN MORE ABOUT OUR FIRST
PRIME MINISTER BY VISITING
STATUES.

The Speaker says ORDER ON THE
OPPOSITION SIDE.

Jones says SITED THROUGHOUT ONTARIO,
INCLUDING AT THE FRONT OF
QUEEN'S PARK.
THANK YOU.

[APPLAUSE]

The Speaker says STOP THE
CLOCK.
MEMBERS WILL TAKE THEIR
SEATS.
NEXT QUESTION.
START THE CLOCK.
MEMBER FOR SUDBURY.

The caption changes to "Jamie West. NDP. Sudbury."

West is in his forties, clean-shaven and balding. He wears a gray suit, white shirt, and gray plaid tie.

He says SPEAKER, MY QUESTION'S
FOR THE PREMIER.
THERE IS A CONSTITUENT OF
MINE AND SHE'S WORRIED
ANNOUNCED 1.5 percent CUT TO SOCIAL
ASSISTANCE WILL RETURN
DEPRIVATION OF THE HARRIS
YEARS.
SARAH RECALLS HOW AS A CHILD
WHEN THE FORMER CONSERVATIVE
GOVERNMENT CUTS CAME HER
FAMILY WAS EVICTED, HOW THEY
HAD TO MOVE ONTO CAMPGROUNDS
AND HOW THEY SLEPT ON
RELATIVES' FLOORS.
SARAH DESCRIBES THESE CUTS
AS CRUEL AND UNNECESSARY.
SPEAKER, SARAH WANTS TO KNOW
WHAT THE PREMIER HAS TO SAID
TO THE PEOPLE WHO WILL LOSE
THEIR HOMES, BE UNABLE TO
EAT OR UNABLE TO BUY
MEDICATION BECAUSE OF HIS
CUTS.

[APPLAUSE]

The Speaker says PREMIER.

Ford says MINISTER OF HEALTH.

The Speaker says MINISTER OF
HEALTH AND LONG-TERM CARE.

Elliott says I THANK THE MEMBER VERY
MUCH FOR HIS QUESTION.
THERE'S NO QUESTION THAT
THERE'S MORE THAT WE NEED TO
DO FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE
RECEIVING SOCIAL ASSISTANCE
IN ONTARIO.
IN FACT WHAT HAS BEEN DONE
IS THERE IS A 1.5 percent INCREASE
TO BOTH PEOPLE ON ONTARIO
WORKS AS WELL AS PEOPLE ON
ODSP SO THAT IS AN INCREASE
BUT OF COURSE THAT'S NOT THE
END OF IT.
THERE IS MORE WORK TO BE
DONE AND THE MINISTER IS
ALREADY WORKING ON THAT.
SHE HAS 100 DAYS, ABOUT 09
DAYS NOW, IN ORDER TO
COMPLETE HER REVIEW TO MAKE
SURE THAT WE CAN PROVIDE
PEOPLE WITH THE SUPPORT THEY
NEED TO MOVE FORWARD IN
THEIR LIVES, NOT TO SIT
WHERE THEY ARE. WE WANT TO MAKE
SURE THAT PEOPLE CAN FIND
JOBS.
THOSE THAT ARE ABLE TO WORK
AND ABLE TO MOVE FORWARD TO
GET THEMSELVES OUT OF
POVERTY.
THAT IS WHAT THE MINISTER'S
CONCENTRATING ON.
THAT IS WHAT WE WANT TO DO
FOR THE PEOPLE OF ONTARIO.

[APPLAUSE]

The Speaker says SUPPLEMENTARY.

West says SPEAKER, THE POOR
CITIZENS OF THIS PROVE SINCE
AND MANY UNABLE TO WORK LIKE
YOU AND I ARE WERE EXPECTING
THEIR RATES TO GO UP 3 percent THIS
YEAR.
1.5 IS LESS THAN THAT BY
HALF.
SINCE I SUSPECT THE EXTENDED
CONSULTATION WILL ONLY SEE
WILL THE PREMIER TELL WHAT
FURTHER CUTS ON THE BACKS OF
SOCIAL ASSISTANCE RECIPIENTS
ARE ALREADY PLANNED?

[APPLAUSE]

The Speaker says MINISTER.

Elliott says IN FACT WE WANT TO HELP
ALL PEOPLE RECEIVING SOCIAL
ASSISTANCE.
THOSE PEOPLE WHO ARE
TEMPORARILY OUT OF WORK AND
THOSE PEOPLE WHO ARE NOT
GOING TO BE ABLE TO WORK
BECAUSE OF THEIR
DISABILITIES.
WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE CAN
HELP THEM MOVE FORWARD.
THE 1.5 percent INCREASE THAT IS
HAPPENING IS HELPING PEOPLE.
IS IT ALL THAT WE INTEND TO
DO?
NO.
OUR GOVERNMENT...

The Speaker says ORDER ON THE
OPPOSITION SIDE.

Elliott says WHILE GUARANTEED INCOME
PILOT WAS A PILOT, AND
EVIDENCE INDICATED THAT IT
WASN'T WORKING.
IT WAS ONLY FOR A VERY SMALL
NUMBER OF PEOPLE.
WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT
EVERYONE WHO NEEDS
ASSISTANCE IN THE PROVINCE
OF ONTARIO IS GOING TO DO
IT.
THAT IS WHY THE MINISTER IS
UNDERGOING A THOROUGH
CONSULTATION TO MAKE SURE
THAT WE GET IT RIGHT AND WE
CAN HELP PEOPLE MOVE FORWARD
AND GET A JOB, WHICH IS THE
BEST SOCIAL...

[APPLAUSE]

The Speaker says THANK YOU.
NEXT QUESTION.
THE MEMBER FOR CAMBRIDGE.

The caption changes to "Belinda Karahalios. PC. Cambridge."

Karahalios is in her thirties, with long curly brown hair. She wears a black blazer over a burgundy blouse.

She says THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER.
MY QUESTION IS FOR ATTORNEY
GENERAL.
ON JUNE 7th... 7th THE
PEOPLE OF ONTARIO ELECTED A
GOVERNMENT FOR THE PEOPLE
THAT PROMISED TO DELIVER TAX
RELIEF FOR FAMILIES AND
SMALL BUSINESSES.
THE COMMITMENT WAS SIMPLE
BUT IMPORTANT.
PUT AN END TO THE CAP AND
TRADE SCHEME AND FIGHT THE
COSTLY FEDERAL CARBON TAX.
I'M PLEASED TO SEE THAT THIS
GOVERNMENT HAS ALREADY BEGUN
TO TAKE STEPS TO ACHIEVE
THAT WITH THE INTRODUCTION
OF BILL 4, THE CAP AND TRADE
CANCELLATION ACT THE
PREMIER'S ANNOUNCEMENT
ONTARIO WILL BE
PARTICIPATING IN
SASKATCHEWAN'S CHALLENGE OF
THE FEDERAL CARBON TAX IN
THE SASKATCHEWAN COURT OF
APPEAL AND THAT OUR
GOVERNMENT WILL BE LAUNCHING
ITS OWN CHALLENGE IN THE
ONTARIO COURT OF APPEAL.
WE KNOW THAT THE TRUDEAU
LIBERALS' CARBON TAX WILL
DRIVE UP THE COSTS OF GOODS
AND SERVICES ONTARIANS RELY
ON EVERY DAY SOME HAVE
WONDERED ABOUT THE RATIONALE
PARTICIPATING IN TWO
CHALLENGES.
MR. SPEAKER, CAN THE
ATTORNEY GENERAL HIGHLIGHT
HOW CHALLENGING THE FEDERAL
CARBON TAX WILL MAKE A REAL
DIFFERENCE IN THE LIVES OF
ONTARIANS?

[APPLAUSE]

The Speaker says ATTORNEY GENERAL.

The caption changes to "Honourable Caroline Mulroney. Attorney General."

Mulroney is in her mid-forties, with long wavy brown hair. She wears a gray blazer over a white blouse.

She says THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER.
THANK YOU TO THE MEMBER FROM
CAMBRIDGE FOR HER QUESTION.
OUR GOVERNMENT DID CAMPAIGN
ON A PROMISE TO THE PEOPLE
THAT WE WOULD WORK HARD TO
PUT MONEY BACK IN TAXPAYERS'
POCKETS, REDUCE THE PRICE OF
GAS BY 10 CENTS A LITRE AND
BRING REAL TAX RELIEF TO
FAMILIES.
AND CHALLENGING THE FEDERAL
CARBON TAX IS ONE OF THE
WAYS WE ARE KEEPING THE
PROMISE AND STANDING UP FOR
THE HARDWORKING PEOPLE OF
ONTARIO.
ON JUNE 7th, THE VOICE OF
THE PEOPLE RANG OUT LOUD AND
CLEAR ACROSS THIS PROVINCE.
OVER THE PAST 15 YEARS, THE
COST OF LIVING HAS BECOME
TOO HIGH AND TOO MANY PEOPLE
WERE STRUGGLING TO KEEP UP
WITH PAYING THEIR BILLS,
MR. SPEAKER.
THEY WANTED CHANGE AND A
GOVERNMENT THAT COULD
DELIVER IT AND THAT'S WHY WE
ARE HERE TODAY, ON THIS SIDE
OF THE HOUSE, WITH A MANDATE
TO CHALLENGE THE COSTLY
FEDERAL CARBON TAX IN COURT.
MR. SPEAKER, WE MADE A
PROMISE AND TODAY I'M PROUD
TO SAY WE ARE KEEPING THAT
PROMISE.

[APPLAUSE]

The Speaker says THANK YOU.
SUPPLEMENTARY.

Karahalios says THANK THE ATTORNEY
GENERAL FOR THAT ANSWER.
I KNOW IN MY RIDING TOO MANY
PEOPLE HAVE STRUGGLED WITH
THE HIGH COSTS BROUGHT ON BY
THE PREVIOUS GOVERNMENT'S
MISGUIDED POLICIES.
IT'S REASSURING TO KNOW THIS
GOVERNMENT IS TAKING SWIFT
ACTION TO BRING RELIEF TO
ONTARIANS AND MAKING LIFE
MORE AFFORDABLE ONCE AGAIN.
I KNOW THE FEDERAL
GOVERNMENT RECENTLY
ANNOUNCED THAT THEY HAVE
SCALED BACK ON THE SCOPE OF
THEIR PLANS WITH REGARDS TO
FEDERAL CARBON TAX, A MOVE
THAT CAN BE UNDERSTOOD AS
ACKNOWLEDGEMENT THAT THIS
TAX IS OVERLY BURDENSOME AND
WILL NOT ACHIEVE
ENVIRONMENTAL OBJECTIVES.
MR. SPEAKER, ACCOUNT
ATTORNEY GENERAL OUTLINE
WHAT THIS MEANS FOR THE
ONTARIO GOVERNMENT'S
STRATEGY MOVING FORWARD AND
IF THIS CHANGES ANYTHING
WITH RESPECT TO THE
PROVINCE'S CHALLENGE...

[Interjection]

Karahalios says COURT OF APPEAL.

The Speaker says RESPONSE.
ATTORNEY GENERAL.

Mulroney says MR. SPEAKER, THROUGH YOU,
I'M HAPPY TO RESPOND TO THE
MEMBER'S FOLLOW-UP QUESTION.
AS I SAID, OUR GOVERNMENT
WAS GIVEN A CLEAR MANDATE TO
STAND UP FOR HARD WORKING
ONTARIANS AND TO OPPOSE THE
COSTLY FEDERAL CARBON TAX.
WHICH IS WHY OUR GOVERNMENT
REMAINS COMMITTED TO
CHALLENGE THE
CONSTITUTIONALITY OF THE
FEDERAL GREENHOUSE GAS
POLLUTION PRICING ACT.
WHILE THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT
HAS ANNOUNCED UP COMING
CHANGES TO THE ACT THAT WILL
SCALE BACK ITS SCOPE,
ONTARIO'S POSITION IS THAT
THIS ACT IMPOSES AN
UNCONSTITUTIONAL TAX ON
ONTARIANS AND IS OUTSIDE OF
FEDERAL JURISDICTION.
OUR GOVERNMENT KNOWS THAT A
STRATEGY ON CLIMATE CHANGE
IS IMPORTANT BUT WE ALSO
KNOW THAT WE CAN BE GOOD
ENVIRONMENTAL STEWARDS
WITHOUT DIGGING INTO
PEOPLE'S POCKETS.
MR. SPEAKER, OUR GOVERNMENT
STANDS FIRM IN ITS
COMMITMENT TO USE ALL
AVAILABLE RESOURCES TO
CHALLENGE THE FEDERAL CARBON
TAX.
I HAVE FULL CONFIDENCE IN
THE SOUNDNESS OF OUR LEGAL
POSITION BUT IT IS
ULTIMATELY UP TO THE COURTS
TO DECIDE THE ISSUE.

[APPLAUSE]

The Speaker says STOP THE
CLOCK.
START THE CLOCK.
NEXT QUESTION.
THE MEMBER FROM
MUSHKEGOWUK-JAMES BAY.

The caption changes to "Guy Bourgouin. NDP. Mushkegowuk-James Bay."

Bourgouin is in his forties, clean-shaven, with short brown hair. He wears glasses, a gray suit, white shirt and checkered tie.

He speaks in French and a Translator says
MR. SPEAKER, MY QUESTION IS
FOR THE PREMIER.

[End of Translation]

In English, Bourgouin continues
HAVE BEEN STRUGGLING WITH
THE NORTH LAND BUS SERVICE
THAT JUST AREN'T GOOD
ENOUGH.
ONE OF MY CONSTITUENTS
RECENT CHANGE TO THE BUS
MEANS A 26-HOUR BUS TRIP TO
GET FROM BARRIE TO
KAPUSKASING.
IT NOW TAKES TWO DAYS FOR
THOSE FROM SUDBURY, WHICH
ONLY TAKES 6 HOURS BY DRIVE
A WAY.
BECAUSE OF THE LACK OF
COORDINATION WITH TRANSFER.
THIS IS UNFAIR AND JUST NOT
GOOD ENOUGH.
WHAT DOES THIS GOVERNMENT
HAVE TO SAY TO MY
CONSTITUENTS WHO HAVE
SETTLED FOR SECOND-CLASS BUS
SERVICE FOR FAR TOO LONG?

[APPLAUSE]

The Speaker says PREMIER.

Ford says TRANSPORTATION.

The Speaker says MINISTER OF
TRANSPORTATION.

The caption changes to "Honourable John Yakabuski. PC. Minister of Transportation."

Yakabuski is in his early sixties, clean-shaven and balding. He wears a gray suit, blue shirt, and blue tartan tie.

He says THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SPEAKER.
THANK YOU TO THE MEMBER FOR
HIS QUESTION.
THE CHALLENGE OF
TRANSPORTATION IN REMOTE
AREAS IS NOT A NEW ONE BUT
IS ONE THAT WE TAKE VERY
SERIOUSLY.
WHEN WE SEE SITUATIONS WHERE
PEOPLE ARE NOT GETTING TO
THE DESTINATIONS THAT THEY
REQUIRE, IT'S OF A GREAT
CONCERN TO US.
I'M, ALONG WITH THE MINISTER
OF NORTHERN DEVELOPMENT AND
MINES AND ONTARIO NORTHLAND,
WE ARE CONTINUING TO WRESTLE
WITH THE CHALLENGES THAT
WERE FACED WITH
TRANSPORTATION IN REMOTE
AREAS.
IT IS SOMETHING THAT WE ARE
CONTINUOUSLY TRYING TO
IMPROVE.
WE ARE COMMITTED TO BETTER
TRANSPORTATION FOR THE
PEOPLE OF ONTARIO TO ENSURE
THAT THEIR NEEDS ARE MET. WE
RECOGNIZE THERE ARE CHALLENGES
BUT AS A GOVERNMENT WE ARE
COMMITTED TO TRY TO FACE
THEM IN THE BEST WAY WE CAN.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

[APPLAUSE]

The Speaker says SUPPLEMENTARY.

Bourgouin says MR. SPEAKER, TO THE
MINISTER.
KNOWS HOW HARD IT IS FOR
PEOPLE TO MOVE AROUND THE
NORTH.
WHEREAS DUE TO POOR
MAINTENANCE OF ROODS OR
LIMITED OR NO ACCESS TO
PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION.
COMMUNITIES ACROSS THE NORTH
ARE STRUGGLING.
THIS IS NOT NEW.
FIRST THE TRAIN TO COCHRANE
WAS CUT.
NEXT CAME CUTS TO GREYHOUND.
MR. SPEAKER, TO THE
MINISTER.
WILL THE GOVERNMENT COMMIT
TODAY TO RESTORE THE ONTARIO
NORTHLAND ER?

[APPLAUSE]

The Speaker says MINISTER.

[Interjection]

Yakabuski says THANK YOU, SPEAKER.
I THANK THE MEMBER FOR HIS
SUPPLEMENTARY.
WHAT I DO NOT THANK IS HIS
PARTY FOR SUPPORTING THE
LIBERALS FOR THE
CANCELLATION OF THE NORTH...

[APPLAUSE]

Yakabuski says THEY WORKED HAND IN GLOVE
WITH THE PREVIOUS LIBERAL
GOVERNMENT WHICH DENIED THE
PEOPLE OF THE NORTH THE
TRANSPORTATION THAT THEY SO
BADLY NEEDED.
AND WHEN IT WAS CANCELLED,
NOW WE'RE HEARING ABOUT THE
PROBLEMS THAT ARE RESULTING
FROM THAT CANCELLATION.
BUT LET'S BE PERFECTLY
CLEAR.
LET'S BE CRYSTAL CLEAR.
IT WAS THE N.D.P. THAT
SUPPORTED THE LIBERALS WITH
THE CANCELLATION OF THE
NORTHLANDER.

The Speaker says ORDER.

Yakabuski says I SAY TO THE MEMBER AND I
RECOGNIZE THAT YOU'RE ONLY A
NEW MEMBER IN THIS
LEGISLATURE SO YOU HAVEN'T
BEEN HERE FOR THE HISTORY.
WE ARE COMMITTED TO.

The Speaker says RESPONSE.

Yakabuski says BITTER TRANSPORTATION
THROUGHOUT THIS PROVINCE,
BUT IT'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN
OVERNIGHT.
TO UNDO THE DAMAGE OF A
GOVERNMENT THAT RAN THIS
PROVINCE FOR 15 YEARS...

[APPLAUSE]

The Speaker says STOP THE
CLOCK.
THE MEMBER WILL TAKE HIS
SEAT.
AS THE FORMER SPEAKER, YOU
CAN SAY WHEN THE SPEAKER
STANDS, YOU SIT.
THANK YOU.
START THE CLOCK.
NEXT QUESTION.
MEMBER FOR KING-VAUGHAN.

[APPLAUSE]

The caption changes to "Stephen Lecce. PC. King-Vaughan."

Lecce is in his thirties, with short dark hair and a stubble. He wears a gray suit, white shirt, and spotted green tie.

He says THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER.
MY QUESTION IS TO THE
MINISTER OF MUNICIPAL
AFFAIRS AND HOUSING.
MR. SPEAKER, HARD WORKING,
TAX-PAYING LAW-ABIDING
PEOPLE IN THIS PROVINCE
SUPPORT OUR PLAN TO DO MORE
WITH LESS AND TO REDUCE THE
SIZE OF GOVERNMENT.
WE ARE DOING WHAT THE
OPPOSITION COULD NOT
CONCEIVE DOING, WHICH IS
PUTTING THE PUBLIC INTEREST
OVER POLITICAL SELF-INTEREST.
MINISTER THROUGH YOU,
MR. SPEAKER, CAN THE
MINISTER OUTLINE WHY, WHY WE
MUST PASS THIS LEGISLATION
WITHOUT DELAY AND GET THE
FIFTH LARGEST ECONOMY OF
THIS COUNTRY BACK ON TRACK?

[APPLAUSE]

The Speaker says MINISTER OF
MUNICIPAL AFFAIRS AND HOUSING.

Clark says THANK YOU AGAIN, SPEAKER.
THROUGH YOU I WANT TO THANK
THE MEMBER FOR KING-VAUGHAN
FOR HIS TREMENDOUS ADVOCACY
ON THIS ISSUE.
HE'S ABSOLUTELY RIGHT.
BILL 5 THE BETTER LOCAL
GOVERNMENT ACT DOES
SOMETHING THAT I THINK MANY
ONTARIANS AND CERTAINLY MANY
TORONTONIANS HAVE WANTED FOR
A LONG TIME, AND THAT'S A
COUNCIL THAT ISN'T
DYSFUNCTIONAL, A COUNCIL
THAT IS STREAMLINED, THAT
AGREES TO THE SAME
BOUNDARIES THAT FEDERAL
M.P.s AND FEDERAL M.P.P.s
USE SO THAT, SPEAKER, SO
THAT WHEN THAT ELECTION
TAKES PLACE ON OCTOBER 22nd,
AND THEY'LL HAVE A
STREAMLINED COUNCIL THAT'S
READY TO WORK AND MAKE THOSE
VERY IMPORTANT DECISIONS.
PEOPLE IN TORONTO DON'T WANT
A DYSFUNCTIONAL COUNCIL.

Interjection: NO.

Clark says THEY DON'T WANT A COUNCIL
THAT FOR GOODNESS SAKES,
SPEAKER, THEIR LAST COUNCIL
MEETING TOOK SIX DAYS.

The Speaker says RESPONSE.

Clark says SIX DAYS FOR A COUNCIL
MEETING.
THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT BILL 5
IS GOING TO REMEDY.
WILL HAVE A COUNCIL THAT IS
READY, WILLING TO WORK AND
MAKE THOSE IMPORTANT
DECISIONS ON OCTOBER 22nd.
I AGAIN ASK THE...

The Speaker says THANK YOU.

[APPLAUSE]

The Speaker says SUPPLEMENTARY.

Lecce says THANK YOU, MINISTER, FOR
HAVING THE COURAGE TO FIGHT
FOR TAXPAYERS IN THIS HOUSE.

[APPLAUSE]

Lecce says MR. SPEAKER, THE PEOPLE IN
MY RIDING OF KING-VAUGHAN
WANT THIS LEGISLATION
PASSED.
THEY WANT TO SEE IMPROVEMENT
TO THE EFFICACY OF
GOVERNMENT.
THEY WANT TO SEE TAXPAYERS
SAVE MONEY AND THEY WANT TO
MAKE THE LARGEST CITY IN
THIS PROVINCE AND COUNTRY
ACCOUNTABLE.
MINISTER, COULD YOU OUTLINE
HOW THE BETTER LOCAL
GOVERNMENT ACT WILL IMPROVE
THE EFFECTIVENESS OF
GOVERNMENT AND ENHANCE
ACCOUNTABILITY OF CITY
GOVERNMENT?

[APPLAUSE]

Clark says SPEAKER, THROUGH YOU TO
THE MEMBER FOR KING-VAUGHAN.
HAVING A COUNCIL THAT'S VERY
CLEAR, AND THE CITIZENS OF
TORONTO WILL BE VERY CLEAR.
THEY'LL KNOW WHO THEIR
FEDERAL M.P. IS, THE SAME
BOUNDARIES.
THEY KNOW WHO THEIR
PROVINCIAL M.P.P. IS.
IT'S THE SAME BOUNDARY
APPEAR IT'S GOING TO BE VERY
CLEAR TO THEM WHO TO CALL
AFTER OCTOBER 22nd TO
REPRESENT THEM AT CITY HALL.
I THINK THERE ARE A
TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF
TORONTONIANS THAT HAVE BEEN
WAITING FOR THIS FOR A LONG
TIME.
IF WE LEFT IT TO THE N.D.P.,
THEY'RE ALWAYS GOING TO
STAND UP FOR MORE
POLITICIANS.
THEY'RE ALWAYS GOING TO
STAND UP FOR BIGGER
GOVERNMENT.
WE RAN ON A VERY, VERY
DISTINCT PLATFORM, TO REDUCE
THE SIZE AND COST OF
GOVERNMENT.
THERE WERE NO QUESTIONS FOR
US.
I HAVE TO SAY THERE WERE A
FEW QUESTIONS FOR THE N.D.P.
THEY WANTED TO KNOW WHY
DIDN'T ANDREA HORWATH STAND
UP AGAINST THE...

The Speaker says RESPONSE.

Clark says OF HER PARTY.
WHY DIDN'T ANDREA HORWATH
STAND UP TO THE...

The Speaker says THANK YOU.
THAT CONCLUDES THE TIME WE
HAVE FOR QUESTION PERIOD TODAY.

Watch: Question Period: Monday, August 13, 2018