Transcript: Question Period: Monday, December 3, 2018 | Dec 04, 2018

A still camera shows the Ontario Legislature. A caption on screen reads "Oral questions."

The Speaker stands. He's is in his fifties, clean-shaven, with short light brown hair. He wears a black robe.
IT IS NOW TIME FOR ORAL
QUESTIONS.
I RECOGNIZE THE LEADER OF
THE OFFICIAL OPPOSITION.

[APPLAUSE]

The caption changes to "Andrea Horwath. NDP. Leader of Her Majesty's Loyal Opposition."

Horwath is in her fifties, with straight blond hair in a bob. She wears a black blazer, yellow shirt, and a pendant necklace.

She says THANK YOU,
SPEAKER.
SPEAKER, MY QUESTION'S TO
THE ACTING PREMIER.
ON FRIDAY, I HAD A CHANCE TO
MEET WITH WORKERS AT G.M. AS
THEY CAME ON TO SHIFT.
THEY TOOK A BIG HIT LAST
WEEK, SPEAKER, BUT THEY KNOW
THAT THEY HAVE THE SKILL

[INTERJECTIONS]

AND TALENT TO BUILD SOME OF
THE BEST CARS IN THE WORLD.

The Speaker says GOVERNMENT
SIDE, COME TO ORDER.

Horwath says AND THEY
WANT TO FIGHT G.M.'s
DECISION TO SHUT DOWN
OPERATIONS IN OSHAWA.
THEIR QUESTION TO ME WAS WHY
IS THE GOVERNMENT SO
DETERMINED TO THROW IN THE
TOWEL?
CAN THE DEPUTY PREMIER TELL
US?

[APPLAUSE]

The Speaker says DEPUTY
PREMIER.

A voice says MINISTER OF FINANCE.

The Speaker says MINISTER OF FINANCE.

The caption changes to "Honourable Victor Fedeli. Minister of Finance."

Fedeli is in his fifties, with short white hair and glasses. He wears a gray suit, white shirt and yellow tie, with a golden pin on his left lapel.

He says THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
CERTAINLY WHEN PREMIER FORD
WAS THERE WHEN THIS FIRST
OCCURRED, HE ACKNOWLEDGED,
IMMEDIATELY ACKNOWLEDGED,
THAT IT IS A DIFFICULT TIME
FOR WORKERS AT GENERAL
MOTORS' OSHAWA ASSEMBLY
PLANT, AND FOR THE THOUSANDS
OF WORKERS AT HUNDREDS OF
AUTO PLANT PART SUPPLIERS
ACROSS ONTARIO AND THEIR
FAMILIES AND THEIR FRIENDS.
AND IT IS DISAPPOINTING THAT
G.M. FAILED TO SEE
COMPETITIVE ADVANTAGE THAT
OSHAWA'S HIGHLY TRAINED
STAFF BROUGHT TO THE
OPERATIONS IN OSHAWA.
NOW, OF COURSE G.M. SAYS THAT THIS MOVE IS PART OF A
GLOBAL RESTRUCTURING, AND
THAT IS WHY WE NEED TO MAKE
SURE, SPEAKER, THAT THE
WORLD KNOWS.

The Speaker says RESPONSE.

Fedeli says THAT AFTER 15 YEARS OF
JOB-KILLING POLICIES, THAT
ONTARIO IS OPEN FOR
BUSINESS.

[APPLAUSE]

The Speaker says SUPPLEMENTARY.
GEE

Horwath says THERE'S A
HUGE AMOUNT AT TIME.
G.M. EMPLOYS THOUSANDS
DIRECTLY BUT THERE ARE
THOUSANDS MORE WHO WORK IN
COMPANIES THAT SUPPLY G.M.

[Interjection]

Horwath says AND NOTWITHSTANDING THE
GOVERNMENT NOT ALLOWING ME
TO GET MY QUESTION OUT,
MUNICIPAL AND BUSINESS
LEADERS.

The Speaker says MINISTER OF NATURAL
RESOURCES AND FORESTRY, COME
TO ORDER.

Horwath says THE RIPPLE EFFECT TO LEAD
TO 20,000 JOB LOSSES IN
OSHAWA AND THE DURHAM
REGION.
THE PREMIER MAY BE RESIGNED
TO LETTING THOSE JOBS GO TO
MEXICO AND CHINA, BUT WE
THINK THAT THEY'RE WORTH
FIGHTING FOR.
AT A TIME WHEN PEOPLE IN
OSHAWA ARE LOOKING FOR
LEADERSHIP, SPEAKER, WHY IS
THIS GOVERNMENT THROWING IN
THE TOWEL?

[APPLAUSE]

The Speaker says MINISTER.

Fedeli says SPEAKER, WE HAVE
AUTHORIZED... PREMIER FORD
IMMEDIATELY AUTHORIZED
EMPLOYMENT ONTARIO TO
DEPLOY.

The Speaker says NIAGARA
FALLS, COME TO ORDER.

Fedeli says TRAINING SERVICES PROGRAM
TO PROVIDE IMPACTED LOCAL
WORKERS WITH TARGETED LOCAL
TRAINING AND JOB SERVICES TO
HELP THEM REGAIN EMPLOYMENT
AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE.
WE'VE ALSO ASKED THE FEDERAL
GOVERNMENT TO IMMEDIATELY
EXTEND EMPLOYMENT INSURANCE
ELIGIBILITY TO ENSURE THE
IMPACTED WORKERS IN THE AUTO
SECTOR CAN FULLY ACCESS E.I.
BENEFITS WHEN THEY NEED THEM
THE MOST, AND TO WORK WITH
THEIR U.S. COUNTERPARTS,
SPEAKER, TO REMOVE ALL
TARIFFS THAT ARE IMPACTING
AUTO PARTS SUPPLIERS SO THAT
WE CAN REMAIN COMPETITIVE IN
THE OSHAWA... AS THE OSHAWA
ASSEMBLY PLANT CLOSES ITS
DOORS.

The Speaker says RESPONSE
FINAL SUPPLEMENTARY.

[APPLAUSE]

Horwath says SPEAKER,
WHAT THEY TOLD ME IS THAT
THEY WANT GOOD JOBS AND THEY
WANT THEIR GOVERNMENT TO THE
FIGHT FOR THOSE GOOD JOBS.

[APPLAUSE]

Horwath says OVER DECADES, THE PEOPLE OF
OSHAWA HAVE BUILT A
WORLD-CLASS AUTO INDUSTRY.
A UNIVERSITY THAT PRODUCES
CUTTING-EDGE RESEARCH AND
TECHNOLOGY AND A SKILLED
WORK FORCE THAT IS SECOND TO
NONE.
GENERAL MOTORS MIGHT THINK
THAT THEY CAN WALK AWAY FROM
THAT, BUT THE PREMIER'S JOB
IS TO TELL THEM THAT THEY'RE
WRONG AND USE EVERY TOOL AT
HIS DISPOSAL TO KEEP THOSE
JOBS IN OSHAWA AND KEEP WORK
IN THAT COMMUNITY.
WHY IS THE GOVERNMENT SO
DETERMINED TO SIDE WITH
G.M.'s PLAN TO ABANDON
OSHAWA?

[APPLAUSE]

The Speaker says MEMBERS,
PLEASE TAKE YOUR SEATS.
MINISTER.

Fedeli says SPEAKER, WE'VE BEEN
WORKING SINCE DAY ONE TO
REVERSE 15 YEARS OF BAD
POLICIES.
NOW I APPRECIATE THE
LEADER'S COMMENTS, BUT THE
N.D.P. CONTINUE TO WANT THE
HIGHEST CARBON TAX IN THE
WORLD.
THEY WANT ONTARIO TO BE A
PLACE WHERE IT'S
UNAFFORDABLE TO MAKE CARS,
UNAFFORDABLE TO BUY CARS AND
UNAFFORDABLE TO DRIVE CARS.

The Speaker says MOMENT FOR
WATERLOO, COME TO ORDER.

Fedeli says FIGHTING FOR THE WORKERS,
WE KNOW TWO THINGS.
ONE, THEY DON'T HAVE A PLAN
AND, TWO, THEIR POLICIES
WOULD KILL THE AUTOMOTIVE
SECTOR, SPEAKER.
NOW I CAN APPRECIATE THE
LEADER IS HERE TO MAKE HER
COMMENTS, BUT IT DID TAKE
HER ALMOST A WEEK TO GET TO
THE PLANT AND SHE DID REFUSE
A BRIEFING BY OUR MINISTER
SMITH.

[APPLAUSE]

The Speaker says NEXT
QUESTION.
LEADER OF THE OPPOSITION.

Horwath says SPEAKER,
MY NEXT QUESTION'S ALSO TO
THE ACTING.

The Speaker says MEMBER FOR
KING-VAUGHAN, COME TO ORDER.
MEMBER FOR KING-VAUGHAN,
COME TO ORDER.

Horwath says G.M.'s
NEW INVESTMENT.

The Speaker says MEMBER FOR
KING-VAUGHAN IS WARNED.

Horwath says ELECTRIC
VEHICLES AND IN AUTONOMOUS
VEHICLES.
BUT THIS IS A QUESTION FOR
THE ACTING PREMIER REGARDING
LEADERSHIP AND THE PREMIER'S
STANDARDS FOR HIS STAFF.
ON FRIDAY, ALYKHAN VELSHI
WORKED HIS LAST DAY AS AN
EXECUTIVE AT ONTARIO POWER
GENERATION.
HE WAS FIRED AND GIVEN UP TO
HALF A MILLION DOLLARS IN
SEVERANCE IN WHAT HE CALLS
QUOTE-UNQUOTE UNUSUAL
CIRCUMSTANCES.
WILL THE GOVERNMENT FINALLY
ADMIT THAT THOSE UNUSUAL
CIRCUMSTANCES WERE THAT THE
PREMIER'S CHIEF OF STAFF
BEING FRENCH CALLED O.P.G.
TO DEMAND THAT HE BE FIRED
AFTER A SINGLE DAY ON THE
JOB?

[APPLAUSE]

The Speaker says DEPUTY
PREMIER.

A voice says MINISTER OF ENERGY.

The Speaker says MINISTER OF
ENERGY.

The caption changes to "Honourable Greg Rickford. PC. Minister of Energy, Northern Development and Mines."

Rickford is in his early fifties, clean-shaven, with short gray hair. He wears a light gray suit, gray shirt, and striped gray tie.

He says THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER.
HYDRO ONE IS RESPONSIBLE FOR
ITS OWN STAFFING DECISIONS,
AND THEY'VE MADE THEIR OWN
STAFFING DECISIONS AND WE
RESPECT THAT.
THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER.

[APPLAUSE]

The Speaker says SUPPLEMENTARY.

Horwath says SPEAKER,
ON FRIDAY THE "GLOBE AND
MAIL" REPORTED THAT, ONCE
AGAIN THE PREMIER'S CHIEF OF
STAFF WAS INTERVENING IN THE
ELECTRICITY SECTOR, THIS
TIME TO LAND A JOB FOR
ANTHONY HAINES, THE FORMER
C.E.O. OF TORONTO HYDRO.
A MAN THE PREMIER JUST
HAPPENED TO WORK CLOSELY
WITH FOR MANY YEARS.
CAN THE GOVERNMENT TELL US
WHAT THE PREMIER'S CHIEF OF
STAFF IS UP TO THESE DAYS?

[APPLAUSE]

The Speaker says MINISTER.

Rickford says AS I SAID PREVIOUSLY,
MR. SPEAKER, HYDRO ONE IS
RESPONSIBLE FOR THEIR OWN
HIRING DECISIONS.
FOLLOWING YEARS OF
OUTRAGEOUS.

The Speaker says ORDER.

Rickford says 6 MILLION DOLLAR SALARIES, THE
GOVERNMENT FOR THE PEOPLE
HAS TAKEN MEASURES TO
IMPROVE ACCOUNTABILITY AND
TRANSPARENCY.
AT HYDRO ONE, THIS INCLUDES
LEGISLATIVE PROVISION TO
INCLUDE A RESPONSIBLE AND
REASONABLE COMPENSATION
PACKAGE FOR THE C.E.O. AND
THE BOARD SELECTS, WHICH WE
WILL BE PROCEEDING WITH IN
THE NEAR FUTURE.
THANK YOU.

[APPLAUSE]

The Speaker says FINAL
SUPPLEMENTARY.

Horwath says WELL, IT
SOUNDS LIKE IT DEPENDS ON
WHAT KIND OF A PEOPLE YOU
ARE.
IF YOU'RE A FRIEND OF DOUG
FORD'S TO GET A JOB AND IF
YOU'RE NOT A FRIEND, YOU
LOSE A JOB.

[APPLAUSE]

Horwath says IF YOU...

The Speaker says I ASK THE
LEADER OF THE OPPOSITION TO
REFER TO THE PREMIER BY HIS
MINISTERIAL TITLE.

Horwath says SPEAKER,
THE FACT OF THE MATTER IS
THAT INTERVENING IN THE
HIRING PROCESS IS ACTUALLY A
VIOLATION OF THE
GOVERNMENT'S AGREEMENT WITH
HYDRO ONE.
THAT IS THE REALITY.
ESPECIALLY IF HE'S
INTERVENING TO LAND A JOB
FOR AN ASSOCIATE OF THE
PREMIER'S.
WHY IS THE PREMIER'S CHIEF
OF STAFF DEAN FRENCH
INTERVENING IN THIS PROCESS?

[APPLAUSE]

The Speaker says MINISTER.

Rickford says THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER.
FOLLOWING YEARS OF
OUTRAGEOUS LIBERAL SCANDALS
AND THE 6 MILLION DOLLAR SALARY OF
ITS FORMER PRESIDENT AND
C.E.O..

The Speaker says OPPOSITION,
COME TO ORDER.

Rickford says TAKEN MEASURES TO IMPROVE
ACCOUNTABILITY AND
TRANSPARENCY AT HYDRO ONE.
THIS INCLUDES A LEGISLATION
PROVISION TO IMPROVE A
RESPONSIBLE AND REASONABLE
COMPENSATION PACKAGE
FRAMEWORK FOR THE C.E.O. AND
THOSE BOARDS... BOARD OF
DIRECTORS SELECTED, AND
WE'RE PROCEEDING WITH THAT
NOW.
THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER.

[APPLAUSE]

The Speaker says NEXT
QUESTION.
THE LEADER OF THE
OPPOSITION.

Horwath says SPEAKER,
MY NEXT QUESTION'S ALSO TO
THE ACTING PREMIER BUT I
HAVE TO SAY, AFTER YEARS OF
SCANDALS, ONTARIANS
CERTAINLY DESERVE MUCH
BETTER THAN MORE OF THE
SAME.

[APPLAUSE]

Horwath says TROUBLING RECORD AT TORONTO
HYDRO, PUSHING PRIVATIZATION
WHILE HIS SALARY GREW 32 percent TO
1.1 MILLION DOLLARS A YEAR, AND THE
PREMIER, THEN A TORONTO
COUNCILLOR, HIS... WAS HIS
STAUNCH DEFENDER.
DOES THE ACTING PREMIER
THINK THIS IS APPROPRIATE
FOR THE PREMIER'S CHIEF OF
STAFF TO MEDDLE IN THE
HIRING PROCESS TO GET
MR. HAINES A JOB?

The Speaker says MINISTER OF
ENERGY.

Rickford says THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER.
A PRIVATE CORPORATION THE
BOARD OF HYDRO ONE IS
RESPONSIBLE FOR THEIR OWN
HIRING DECISIONS.
FOLLOWING YEARS OF
OUTRAGEOUS LIBERAL SCANDALS
AND 6 MILLION DOLLARS SALARY FOR
ITS C.E.O., THE GOVERNMENT
FOR THE PEOPLE HAS TAKEN
MEASURES TO IMPROVE
ACCOUNTABILITY AND
TRANSPARENCY.

The Speaker says OPPOSITION,
COME TO ORDER.

Rickford says HYDRO ONE, AND THIS
INCLUDES THE LEGISLATIVE
PROVISION TO APPROVE A
RESPONSIBLE AND A REASONABLE
COMPENSATION FRAMEWORK FOR
THE C.E.O. AND THE BOARD OF
DIRECTORS SELECTED, WHICH WE
ARE PROCEEDING WITH NOW AS
WE SPEAK.
THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER.

[APPLAUSE]

Interjection: WELL SAID.

The Speaker says SUPPLEMENTARY.

Horwath says WELL,
SPEAKER, THE PEOPLE OF
ONTARIO WANT TO KNOW, WHEN
IT COMES TO IMPORTANT
DECISIONS LIKE THIS ONE,
THAT THE PERSON THAT'S HIRED
WAS ACTUALLY THE BEST PERSON
FOR THE JOB, NOT THE BEST
FRIEND OF THE PREMIER.
WHY IS THE PREMIER'S CHIEF
OF STAFF MEDDLING IN THE
HIRING PROCESS TO GET
MR. HAINES THE JOB?

[APPLAUSE]

The Speaker says MINISTER.

Rickford says IT WAS ABUNDANTLY CLEAR
THAT A GOVERNMENT FOR THE
PEOPLE NEEDED TO TAKE
MEASURES TO IMPROVE
TRANSPARENCY AND
ACCOUNTABILITY AT HYDRO ONE,
AND WE MOVED FORWARD WITH
THE LEGISLATIVE...

The Speaker says MEMBER FOR
TIMMINS, COME TO ORDER.

Rickford says RESPONSIBLE COMPENSATION
PACKAGE FOR THE C.E.O. AND
THE BOARD SELECTED.
BUT YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT A
POLITICAL PARTY WHO REALLY
WANTED TO GET INVOLVED IN
THE OPERATIONAL DECISIONS OF
A COMPANY?
TALK ABOUT PART OF THEIR
CAMPAIGN PLATFORM, TO CANCEL
7,000 JOBS IN THE BEAUTIFUL
RIDING OF PICKERING
UXBRIDGE, MR. SPEAKER.
THAT'S NOT A DECISION...

The Speaker says GOVERNMENT
SIDE, COME TO ORDER.

Rickford says AND IT WOULDN'T HAVE BEEN,
HAD SHE BECOME PREMIER.
WE TODAY UP FOR THOSE
WORKERS.
WE STOOD UP FOR AN ASSET
THAT PROVIDES 60 percent OF
ONTARIO'S HYDRO.
WE'RE GOING TO DO THAT EVERY
SINGLE DAY, SPEAKER.

[APPLAUSE]

The Speaker says MEMBERS TAKE
THEIR SEATS.
NEXT QUESTION.
THE MEMBER FOR
PERTH-WELLINGTON.

The caption changes to "Randy Pettapiece. PC. Perth-Wellington."

Pettapiece is in his fifties, clean-shaven and balding. He wears glasses, a gray suit, white shirt, and gray tartan tie.

He says THANK YOU, SPEAKER.

[APPLAUSE]

Pettapiece says SPEAKER, MY...

[APPLAUSE]

Pettapiece says MY QUESTION IS FOR THE
MINISTER OF COMMUNITY SAFETY
AND CORRECTIONAL SERVICES.
MR. SPEAKER, ONTARIO'S
GOVERNMENT FOR THE PEOPLE
WAS ELECTED WITH A MANDATE
TO IMPROVE PUBLIC SAFETY
ACROSS THIS PROVINCE AND TO
IMPROVE... TO PROVIDE THE
BRAVE MEN AND WOMEN OF OUR
POLICE SERVICES WITH THE
TOOLS AND RESOURCES THEY
NEED TO PERFORM THEIR DUTIES
SAFELY AND EFFECTIVELY.
AFTER 15 YEARS OF LIBERAL
NEGLECT, OUR GOVERNMENT IS
MAKING INVESTMENTS IN THE
KEY PRIORITY OF KEEPING
COMMUNITIES SAFE.
EARLIER THIS YEAR OUR
GOVERNMENT ANNOUNCED A 182
MILLION DOLLAR INVESTMENT TO
REPLACE AGING O.P.P.
FACILITIES WITH NINE NEW
DETACHMENTS PROVINCE WIDE.
MR. SPEAKER, COULD THE
MINISTER PLEASE UPDATE THE
MEMBERS OF THIS LEGISLATURE
ON HOW THESE NEW O.P.P.
DETACHMENTS WILL IMPROVE
PUBLIC SAFETY IN ONTARIO?

[APPLAUSE]

The Speaker says MINISTER OF
COMMUNITY SAFETY AND
CORRECTIONAL SERVICES.

The caption changes to "Honourable Sylvia Jones. PC. Minister of Community Safety and Correctional Services."

Jones is in her sixties, with wavy blond hair to her shoulders. She wears glasses, a black blazer and a black dress.

She says THANK YOU SO MUCH.
I REALLY APPRECIATE THE
QUESTION FROM THE MEMBER
FROM PERTH-WELLINGTON
BECAUSE I KNOW HE
UNDERSTANDS HOW IMPORTANT
PUBLIC SAFETY IS TO OUR
COMMUNITY.

[APPLAUSE]

Jones says AND TO OUR PREMIER.
IT IS A GREAT, GREAT
PLEASURE ACTUALLY ON FRIDAY
TO GO TO CLINTON AND JOIN MY
FRIEND AND COLLEAGUE THE
MINISTER OF EDUCATION AND
THE MINISTER OF
INFRASTRUCTURE TO ANNOUNCE
CLINTON'S NEW O.P.P. DETACHMENT.

[APPLAUSE]

Jones says ENSURE THAT OUR FRONT-LINE
OFFICERS HAVE THE RESOURCES
THEY NEED TO DO THEIR JOBS
TO SERVE THEIR COMMUNITY.
THE INFRASTRUCTURE IS GOING
TO MAKE A REAL DIFFERENCE TO
THE COMMUNITY OF HURON, AND
I WAS JUST PLEASED TO BE
PART OF IT ON FRIDAY, SO
THANK YOU SO MUCH.

[APPLAUSE]

The Speaker says THANK YOU.
SUPPLEMENTARY.

Pettapiece says THANK YOU VERY MUCH,
SPEAKER, FOR THAT ANSWER.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH,
MINISTER, FOR THAT ANSWER
AND FOR YOUR CONTINUED
ADVOCACY WHEN IT COMES TO
ENSURING THE SAFETY OF OUR
PROVINCE.
PROJECTS LIKE THE NEW O.P.P.
DETACHMENTS ARE KEY TO
ENSURING THE SAFETY OF OUR
PROVINCE AND PROVIDING THE
MUCH NEEDED SUPPORT TO OUR
BRAVE MEN AND WOMEN IN
UNIFORM.
FOR FAR TOO LONG, IT SEEMED
THAT WHEREVER YOU WOULD GO
IN OUR PROVINCE, THE KEY
GOVERNMENT BUILDINGS AND
INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECTS
WOULD BE LEFT IN A STATE OF
DISREPAIR.
COULD THE MINISTER ELABORATE
ON THE ROLE THAT THE
MINISTER OF INFRASTRUCTURE
PLAYS REGARDING THE IMPACT
THAT INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECTS
LIKE THIS WILL HAVE FOR OUR
COMMUNITIES LIKE CLINTON AND
ACROSS THE PROVINCE?

[APPLAUSE]

The Speaker says MINISTER OF
INFRASTRUCTURE.

The caption changes to "Honourable Monte McNaughton. PC. Minister of Infrastructure."

McNaughton is in his late thirties, clean-shaven, with receding short brown hair. He wears glasses, a gray suit, white shirt, and striped gray tie.

He says WELL, THANK YOU VERY
MUCH, MR. SPEAKER.
I'D LIKE TO THANK THE MEMBER
OF PERTH-WELLINGTON FOR HIS
STRONG LEADERSHIP IN THESE
PROJECTS AND OTHERS.
MR. SPEAKER, INFRASTRUCTURE
FOR THE PEOPLE MEANS GIVING
OUR POLICE FORCES, INCLUDING
THE BRAVE MEN AND WOMEN OF
THE O.P.P., THE TOOLS THEY
NEED TO KEEP ALL OF OUR
COMMUNITIES SAFE.

[APPLAUSE]

McNaughton says I WAS PLEASED TO JOIN THE
MINISTER OF COMMUNITY SAFETY
AND CORRECTIONAL SERVICES
AND THE MINISTER OF
EDUCATION IN ANNOUNCING A
20 MILLION DOLLAR INVESTMENT IN A
NEW O.P.P. DETACHMENT IN
CLINTON, ONTARIO.
I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO THANK
THE BIRD CONSTRUCTION CREW
FOR WORKING WITH THE LOCAL
WORK FORCE IN BUILDING THE
ATTACHMENT WHICH IS
STRATEGICALLY LOCATED NEXT
TO THE FIRE HALL AND E.M.S., MR. SPEAKER, OUR
GOVERNMENT WAS ELECTED WITH
A STRONG MANDATE TO REBUILD
THIS PROVINCE.
WHETHER IT'S THE CLINTON
O.P.P. DETACHMENT, NEW
GROWTH MEMORIAL COMMUNITY
HOSPITAL.

The Speaker says RESPONSE.

McNaughton says CREDIT VALLEY HOSPITAL OR
REBUILD OF THE WEST LINTON
MEMORIAL HOSPITAL, WE WILL
MAKE LIFE BETTER FOR THE
PEOPLE OF ONTARIO.

[APPLAUSE]

The Speaker says STOP THE CLOCK.
START THE CLOCK.
NEXT QUESTION.
THE MEMBER FOR BRAMPTON NORTH.

The caption changes to "Kevin Yarde. NDP. Brampton North."

Yarde is in his forties, clean-shaven, with short-cropped dark hair. He wears glasses, a black suit, white shirt, and checkered gray tie.

He says THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER.
MY QUESTION IS FOR THE
ACTING PREMIER.
WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE
ALONG THE SAME LINE AS THE
QUESTION FROM OUR LEADER.
ALL I CAN SAY IS HERE WE GO
AGAIN.

[INTERJECTIONS]

The Speaker says GOVERNMENT
SIDE, COME TO ORDER.

Yarde says THE GOVERNMENT ANNOUNCED THAT
RON TAVERNER HAD BEEN CHOSEN
AS THE NEW COMMISSIONER FOR
THE ONTARIO PROVINCIAL
POLICE.
AMONG OTHERS, CHRIS LEWIS,
THE FORMER COMMISSIONER OF
THE O.P.P., HAS SERIOUS
CONCERNS ABOUT THIS
APPOINTMENT, CALLING IT,
QUOTE, SIMPLY NOT RIGHT AND
NOT WHAT'S BEST FOR THE
ORGANIZATION, UNQUOTE.
LIKE MANY, HE HAS RAISED
CONCERNS ABOUT THE NEW
COMMISSIONER, HIS CLOSE
RELATIONSHIP WITH THE
PREMIER.
CAN THE ACTING PREMIER TELL
US WHO WAS ON THE SELECTION
COMMITTEE AND HOW THEY
ARRIVED AT THEIR SELECTION?

[APPLAUSE]

The Speaker says DEPUTY
PREMIER.

A voice says MINISTER OF COMMUNITY
SAFETY AND CORRECTIONAL SERVICES.

The Speaker says MINISTER OF COMMUNITY
SAFETY AND CORRECTIONAL
SERVICES.

[APPLAUSE]

Jones says THROUGH YOU, SPEAKER, I
THINK THE ONLY ACCURATE PART
OF THAT QUESTION WAS, YES,
ON THURSDAY ARCH WE WERE
PROUD TO ANNOUNCE THAT RON
TAVERNER WILL BECOME THE NEW
O.P.P...

[APPLAUSE]

Jones says AS MANY OF US KNOW,
COMMISSIONER, INCOMING
COMMISSIONER HAS A 50-YEAR
HISTORY ON THE FRONT LINE OF
POLICING.
ALL WEEKEND I HAVE SPENT
ANSWERING CALLS SAYING...
FROM FRONT-LINE OFFICERS
SAYING THANK YOU.
YOU HAVE DONE EXACTLY WHAT
WE NEED.
THE CHOICE WAS MADE BY AN
INDEPENDENT COMMISSIONER,
AND IT WAS APPROVED BY
CABINET ON THURSDAY.
I'M PROUD OF THE O.P.P.
COMMISSIONER AND I LOOK
FORWARD TO WORKING WITH HIM
IN THE COMING YEARS.

[APPLAUSE]

The Speaker says SUPPLEMENTARY.

Yarde says THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER.
THAT WAS THE ANSWER I
EXPECTED TO GET, A NO
ANSWER.
NO ANSWER.

[APPLAUSE]

The Speaker says GOVERNMENT
SIDE, COME TO ORDER.

Yarde says WHEN IT COMES TO...

[APPLAUSE]

The Speaker says STOP THE CLOCK.
I STOPPED THE CLOCK.
RESPONSE.
RESTART THE CLOCK.
MEMBER CAN PUT HIS QUESTION.

Yarde says THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER.
WHEN IT COMES TO KEEPING
FAMILIES SAFE AND RUNNING A
POLICE FORCE OF 9,000 PEOPLE,
THE PEOPLE OF ONTARIO NEED
TO KNOW THE BEST PERSON WAS
HIRED FOR THE JOB.
AND WHEN A FORMER O.P.P.
COMMISSIONER RAISES SERIOUS
CONCERNS ABOUT THE HIRING
PROCESS, THEY CANNOT BE
SIMPLY DISMISSED.
MR. SPEAKER, WILL THE
GOVERNMENT COMMIT TO A
TRANSPARENT AND IMPARTIAL
REVIEW OF THE HIRING PROCESS
FOR THIS INCREDIBLY
IMPORTANT JOB?

[APPLAUSE]

The Speaker says MINISTER?

Jones says CLEARLY THE MEMBER
OPPOSITE DOESN'T WANT TO
TAKE MY WORD FOR IT, SO
ALLOW ME TO SHARE SOME OF
THE QUOTES.
BRUCE CHAPMAN, PRESIDENT OF
THE ONTARIO POLICE
ASSOCIATION...
"I'VE KNOWN SUPERINTENDENT
RON TAVERNER FOR 30 PLUS
YEARS.
HE'S A HARDWORKING,
PROGRESSIVE AND DEDICATED
OFFICER."

[APPLAUSE]

Jones says RON IS A GREAT CHOICE TO
LEAD THE O.P.P.
MARK SAUNDERS, CHIEF OF
POLICE FROM THE TORONTO
PUBLIC SERVICE...
AFTER SERVING TORONTO POLICE
FOR MORE THAN 50 YEARS,
THERE ARE FEW PEOPLE WHO
WILL LEAVE BEHIND A LEGACY
SO RICH IN COMMUNITY SERVICE
AS RON TAVERNER.
I WISH HIM EVERY SUCCESS AS
HE BEGINS A NEW CHAPTER WITH
THE O.P.P..

The Speaker says MEMBER FOR
LONDON NORTH CENTRE, COME TO ORDER.

Jones says THE POINT IS THAT THIS
INDEPENDENT SELECTION
COMMITTEE MADE AN EXCELLENT
CHOICE AND WE ARE PROUD TO
STAND BEHIND HIM... THE
O.P.P..

[APPLAUSE]

The Speaker says STOP THE CLOCK.

[Interjection]

The Speaker says ORDER.

[HECKLING]

The Speaker says ORDER.
MINISTER OF NATURAL
RESOURCES AND FORESTRY, COME
TO ORDER.
START THE CLOCK.
NEXT QUESTION.
THE MEMBER FOR
MISSISSAUGA-ERIN MILLS.

[APPLAUSE]

The caption changes to "Sheref Sabawy. PC. Mississauga-Erin Mills."

Sabawy is in his fifties, balding, with a mustache. He wears glasses, a gray suit, white shirt, and striped gray tie.

He says THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER.
MY QUESTION IS FOR THE
MINISTER OF ENVIRONMENT,
CONSERVATION AND PARKS.
SPEAKER, ONTARIO IS BLESSED
WITH MAGNIFICENT FORESTS,
LAKES AND RIVERS.
THOSE OF US WHO CALL ONTARIO
HOME COULD NOT ASK FOR A
BETTER PLACE TO LIVE, WORK
AND RAISE A FAMILY.
THE QUALITY OF LIFE ENJOYED
BY OUR PEOPLE, AS WELL AS
THE SUCCESS OF OUR
BUSINESSES, DEPENDS ON
HAVING CLEAN AIR TO BREATHE,
SAFE WATER TO DRINK AND WELL
PROTECTED LANDS AND PARKS.
ONTARIANS RECOGNIZE THE ROLE
WE PLAY AND THE
RESPONSIBILITY WE ALL SHARE
TO PROTECT AND PRESERVE THE
PROVINCE WE KNOW AND LOVE.
CAN THE MINISTER TELL THIS
HOUSE WHAT ROLE HAS MADE TO
ENSURE WE ALL HAVE A HEALTHY
ENVIRONMENT TO ENJOY?

[APPLAUSE]

The Speaker says MINISTER OF
THE ENVIRONMENT,
CONSERVATION AND PARKS.

The caption changes to "Honourable Rod Phillips. PC. Minister of the Environment, Conservation and Parks."

Phillips is in his early fifties, clean-shaven, with short gray hair. He wears a gray suit, white shirt and blue tie.

He says MR. SPEAKER, THROUGH YOU
TO THE MEMBER FOR
MISSISSAUGA-ERIN MILLS.
THANK YOU FOR THAT QUESTION.
AS THE MEMBER KNOWS, AS THE
HOUSE KNOWS, WE INTRODUCED
OUR MADE IN ONTARIO
ENVIRONMENT PLAN ON
THURSDAY.
AND, MR. SPEAKER, THAT PLAN
WILL ENSURE THAT WE PROTECT
AND CONSERVE OUR AIR, OUR
WATER, OUR LAND, THAT WE
FIGHT CLIMATE CHANGE, THAT
WE PRODUCE URBAN LITTER AND
WASTE.
MR. SPEAKER, THE MEMBER IS
QUITE RIGHT.
ONTARIO HAS A HISTORY IN
TERMS OF ENVIRONMENT.
IN FACT WITH REGARDS TO
CLIMATE, MR. SPEAKER,
ONTARIO IN 2005 HAS REDUCED
ITS EMISSIONS BY 22 percent.
MR. SPEAKER, THIS IS AT THE
SAME TIME AS THE REST OF
CANADA HAS INCREASED IT BY
3 percent.
MR. SPEAKER, THE PLAN THAT
WE PRESENTED ON THURSDAY,
IT'S A PLAN THAT BALANCES A
HEALTHY ECONOMY AND A
HEALTHY ENVIRONMENT.
IT DOES NOT IMPOSE A
JOB-KILLING TAX ON ONTARIANS.

[APPLAUSE]

Phillips says BUT IT DOES PROTECT OUR
ENVIRONMENT AND IT DOES FIGHT...

[APPLAUSE]

The Speaker says SUPPLEMENTARY.

Sabawy says THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER.
THE MINISTER MAKES SOME
GREAT POINTS ABOUT THE
PROGRESS THIS PROVINCE HAS
MADE.
EVERY TIME WE FILL UP OUR
TANKS, WE WERE MET WITH
INCREASING GAS PRICES.
EVERY TIME WE TURNED UP OUR
HEAT, WE KNEW IT WOULD COST
US MORE.
FAMILIES...

The Speaker says COME TO
ORDER.

Sabawy says THEY SHOULD NEVER HAVE TO
FEEL DECIDING BETWEEN
PUTTING FOOD ON THEIR TABLES
AND HEATING THEIR HOMES.
IT IS TIME THAT ONTARIANS
RECEIVE SOME RECOGNITION FOR
THE SACRIFICES WE HAVE MADE
AND THE ONES THEY CONTINUE
TO MAKE FOR EVERY DAY.
CAN THE MINISTER HIGHLIGHT
FOR US HOW OUR PLAN FOCUSES
ON STRIKING THE RIGHT
BALANCE BETWEEN A HEALTHY
ENVIRONMENT AND A STRONG
ECONOMY?

[APPLAUSE]

The Speaker says MINISTER.

Phillips says MR. SPEAKER, AND AGAIN
THANK YOU TO THE MEMBER FOR
THE QUESTION.
MR. SPEAKER, OUR MADE IN
ONTARIO PLAN IS A GREAT PLAN
BECAUSE IT WAS BUILT BY
ONTARIANS.
OVER 8,000 ONTARIANS
CONTRIBUTED, OVER 50
STAKEHOLDERS MADE
CONTRIBUTIONS TO DISCUSSIONS
AND WE LOOKED AT THE BEST
GLOBAL PLANS IN TERMS OF HOW
TO APPROACH THIS.
THAT'S WHY, MR. SPEAKER, WE
WILL BE ABLE TO SAY OUR PLAN,
THROUGH A STRAIGHTFORWARD,
UNDERSTANDABLE COMMON-SENSE
APPROACH IS GOING TO TAKE
ONTARIO TO THE PARIS TARGETS
THAT OUR NATION AGREED TO.
REDUCTIONS BY 2030.
OUR PLAN IS THOUGHT: OUR
PLAN ALSO DEALS WITH LITTER
AND WASTE.
IT DEALS WITH POLLUTION IN
OUR LIVERS... RIFFS AND
LAKES.
IT DEALS WITH OUR AIR,
EXCESS SOIL SOIL WA RANGE OF
ISSUES.
AGAIN A PLAN THAT BALANCE AS
HEALTHY ECONOMY AND A
HEALTHY ENVIRONMENT.

[APPLAUSE]

Interjection: HEAR,
HEAR!.

[APPLAUSE]

The Speaker says STOP THE CLOCK.
RESTART THE CLOCK.
NEXT QUESTION.
THE MEMBER FOR
TORONTO-DANFORTH.

The caption changes to "Peter Tabuns. NDP. Toronto-Danforth."

Tabuns is in his late fifties, clean-shaven, with short white hair. He wears glasses, a black suit, white shirt, and striped gray tie.

He says SPEAKER, MY QUESTION TO
THE MINISTER OF THE
ENVIRONMENT.
LAST WEEK THE GOVERNMENT
REVEALED A CLIMATE CHANGE
PLAN THAT FORCES TAXPAYERS
TO GIVE LARGE EMITTERS
MILLIONS OF PUBLIC DOLLARS.
INSTEAD OF MAKING POLLUTERS
PAY, ONTARIO'S TAXPAYERS
MUST NOW PAY THE POLLUTERS.

Interjection: WOW.

Tabuns says HOW IS THIS FAIR?

[APPLAUSE]

The Speaker says MINISTER OF
THE ENVIRONMENT,
CONSERVATION AND PARKS.

Phillips says MR. SPEAKER, OUR PLAN
STRIKES A BALANCE.
IT'S A BALANCE THAT THE
OPPOSITION MAY NOT
UNDERSTAND.

The Speaker says COME TO
ORDER.

Phillips says OUR PLAN IS A SENSIBLE,
COMMON-SENSE WAY, TAKES THE
HARD WORK ONTARIANS HAVE PUT
IN AND ADD THAT ADDITIONAL
8 percent, MR. SPEAKER, 8 percent MEGA
TONNES OF GREENHOUSE GAS
REDUCTIONS THAT WILL GET US
TO THE PARIS TARGETS THAT
OUR NATIONAL GOVERNMENT
AGREED TO.
MR. SPEAKER, FOR MONTHS NOW
THE N.D.P. HAVE TALKED ABOUT
A PLAN AND TARGETS AND ASKED
US WHERE THEY ARE.
MR. SPEAKER, OUR PLAN AND
OUR TARGETS ARE ON THE TABLE
AS OF THURSDAY.
WHERE ARE THEIRS?

[APPLAUSE]

Interjection: THAT'S
RIGHT.

The Speaker says SUPPLEMENTARY.

Tabuns says THANK YOU, SPEAKER.
SPEAKER, THE N.D.P. SUPPORTS
CLIMATE CHANGE ACTION THAT
IS FAIR, EFFECTIVE AND
TRANSPARENT.

[APPLAUSE]

Tabuns says THE PREMIER'S PLAN IS NOT
FAIR, BECAUSE INSTEAD OF
MAKING POLLUTERS PAY, THE
PREMIER'S FORCING THE PEOPLE
TO PAY POLLUTERS.
THE PLAN IS NOT EFFECTIVE,
BECAUSE AUSTRALIA ALREADY
TRIED THIS AND IT DIDN'T
WORK.
WE HAVE GAS EMISSIONS.
THEY ARE GOING UP, NOT DOWN,
AND THIS PLAN'S NOT
TRANSPARENT BECAUSE IT HAS
NO DETAILS ABOUT HOW THE
PREMIER WILL DECIDE WHICH
INSIDERS WILL GET THESE
PAYMENTS.
WILL THE MINISTER WITHDRAW
THIS PLAN AND REPLACE IT
WITH A FAIR, EFFECTIVE AND
TRANSPARENT PLAN THAT DOES
NOT FORCE TAXPAYERS TO GIVE
MILLIONS OF DOLLARS TO BIG
POLLUTERS?

[APPLAUSE]

The Speaker says MINISTER.
MEMBERS WILL PLEASE TAKE
THEIR SEATS.
MINISTER.

Phillips says MR. SPEAKER, OUR
MADE-IN-ONTARIO PLAN DOES
TAKE THE BEST IDEAS FROM
AROUND THE WORLD, INCLUDING
THE NEW YORK GREENBANK,
WHERE WE WILL GET 4 OF
PRIVATE MONEY FOR EVERY 1
OF PUBLIC INVESTMENT,
MR. SPEAKER.

[APPLAUSE]

Phillips says MR. SPEAKER, FOR THE FIRST
TIME, THERE WILL BE A
COMPREHENSIVE IMPACT
ASSESSMENT ABOUT CLIMATE
CHANGE SO WE CAN UNDERSTAND
THE IMPACTS ON COMMUNITIES.
MR. SPEAKER, WE WILL WORK
WITH COMMUNITIES AND WE'LL
WORK WITH INDIVIDUALS TO
DEAL WITH THE IMPACT OF
CLIMATE CHANGE UNLIKE WHAT
THE OPPOSITION SUGGESTS.
MR. SPEAKER, AS I SAID
THEY'VE BEEN CALLING FOR A
PLAN.
THEY'VE BEEN CALLING FOR
TARGETS.
OUR TARGETS ARE THE PARIS
TARGETS.
OUR PLAN IS A SENSIBLE PLAN
THAT GETS TO THOSE
REDUCTIONS.

The Speaker says MEMBER FOR
TORONTO-DANFORTH, COME TO ORDER.

Phillips says THEIR PLAN IS A CARBON
TAX.
PUNISHES FAMILIES.
150...

The Speaker says COME TO
ORDER.

Phillips says THAT'S THE N.D.P. PLAN.

[APPLAUSE]

The Speaker says RESTART THE
CLOCK.
NEXT QUESTION.
THE MEMBER FOR OTTAWA-VANIER.

The caption changes to "Nathalie Des Rosiers. Liberal. Ottawa-Vanier."

Des Rosiers is in her late fifties, with blond hair in a bob. She wears glasses and a light gray blazer over a white shirt.

She says TO BE ABLE TO ASK A
QUESTION ON BEHALF OF MY
FRIEND FROM DON VALLEY EAST.

The Speaker says MEMBER
ASKING UNANIMOUS CONSENT TO
ASK A QUESTION ON BEHALF OF
HER COLLEAGUE THE MEMBER FOR
DON VALLEY EAST.
AGREED?
AGREED.
MEMBER FOR OTTAWA-VANIER.

Des Rosiers speaks French and a translator says THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER.
MY QUESTION IS FOR THE VICE
PREMIER OR DEPUTY PREMIER.
AS MANY OF MY COLLEAGUES DID,
I PARTICIPATED IN THE
PROCESS THAT TOOK PLACE ON
SATURDAY.

[End of Translation]

In English, Des Rosiers continues
ACCOUNT FOR 4.7 percent OF THE
POPULATION...

[Speaking in French]

Des Rosiers speaks French and a translator says IT
SEEMS THAT 13,000 OF THEM
THROUGHOUT THE PROVINCE TOOK
PLACE... WERE IN THIS
PROCESS.
THERE WERE THOUSANDS OF
PEOPLE, MEMBERS OF THE
NATIONAL ASSEMBLY IN QUEBEC
WERE THERE TO SUPPORT
FRANCOPHONES HERE AND
THROUGHOUT THE COUNTRY.
FRANCOPHONES HAVE FOUGHT
MANY DIFFERENT TIMES
THROUGHOUT THEIR HISTORY FOR
WHAT THE... THEIR ACQUIRED
RIGHTS.
THEY DON'T WANT TO LOSE
THOSE RIGHTS.
WILL THE PREMIER, DEPUTY
PREMIER REVIEW AND REVERSE
THE DECISIONS THAT THEY'VE
RECENTLY MADE IN TERMS OF
THE ELIMINATION OF THE
COMMISSIONER OF FRENCH
LANGUAGE SERVICES AND NOT TO
FOLD IT UNDER THE OMBUDSMAN?
THERE ARE NO SAVINGS AND IT
RISKS HIS INDEPENDENCE.
AND WILL THEY CONTINUE TO
COMMIT TO THE FRANCOPHONE
UNIVERSITY SO THAT IT BE
OPEN IN 2020 AND TO WORK
WITH THE COMMUNITY TO ENSURE
THAT THEY CONTINUE TO FUND
CULTURAL INSTITUTIONS SUCH
AS (INAUDIBLE)...

[APPLAUSE]

The caption changes to "Honourable Caroline Mulroney. Minister Responsible for Francophone Affairs."

Mulroney is in her mid-forties, with long wavy brown hair. She wears a striped gray blazer over a black.

She speaks French and a translator says
THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER.
THE MEMBER OPPOSITE IS
RIGHT.
FRANCO-ONTARIANS ARE AN
INTEGRAL PART OF OUR
PROVINCE, OF OUR HISTORY AND
OUR FUTURE.
THAT'S WHY OUR GOVERNMENT
HAS CONTINUED ITS COMMITMENT
TO CONTINUE TO WORK WITH
FRANCO-ONTARIANS THAT HAVE
WORKED VERY HARD THROUGHOUT
THE GENERATIONS TO ENSURE
THE PROGRESS OF THEIR
RIGHTS.
DURING THE WEEKEND, THERE
WERE HUNDREDS, EVEN
THOUSANDS OF
FRANCO-ONTARIANS THAT
PROTESTED AND WE LISTENED.
WE'RE HERE AS A GOVERNMENT
TO LISTEN AND TO REPRESENT
THE INTERESTS OF
FRANCO-ONTARIANS AND WE WILL
CONTINUE TO DO THAT,
MR. SPEAKER.
THE MEASURES THAT WE
ANNOUNCED WON'T IN ANY WAY
REVERSE ANY OF THE ACQUIRED
RIGHTS FROM FRANCO-ONTARIANS.
WE'LL CONTINUE TO PROTECT
THEIR LANGUAGE RIGHTS AND TO
ENSURE THAT OUR GOVERNMENT
WILL BE, ONE DAY, ABLE TO
FUND THE FRANCOPHONE
UNIVERSITY IN A CONCRETE
MANNER AND A DIFFERENT
MANNER IN WHICH THE PREVIOUS
GOVERNMENT HAD COMMITTED TO
DO SO.

[APPLAUSE]

The Speaker says SUPPLEMENTARY.

Des Rosiers speaks French and a translator says MADAME MINISTER,
FRANCO-ONTARIAN COMMUNITY IS
READY TO PROTECT ITS...
PROTECT ITS RIGHTS BEFORE
THE COURTS.
THE APPEAL COURT IN THE
LaLONDE DECISION HAD STATED
THAT THE GOVERNMENT CANNOT
REVERSE ACQUIRED RIGHTS FOR
LINGUISTIC MINORITIES.
WE HAVE TO TAKE INTO ACCOUNT
THEIR INTERESTS BEFORE
IMPLEMENTING ADMINISTRATIVE
DECISIONS.
HAS THE MINISTER TAKEN INTO
ACCOUNT THE JUDICIAL RISKS
OF THESE DECISIONS?
WHY SPEND MONEY BEFORE THE
COURTS INSTEAD OF WORKING
WITH THE COMMUNITY AND
RECOGNIZE THE MISTAKES THAT
WERE MADE DURING THE LAST
FEW WEEKS?

The Speaker says MINISTER.

Mulroney speaks French and a translator says THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER.
I'D LIKE TO ASK THE MEMBER
OPPOSITE WHETHER THEY
THOUGHT ABOUT THE
REPERCUSSIONS OF THEIR
FISCAL BUDGETARY DECISIONS
WHEN THEY LEFT A 15 BILLION DOLLAR DEFICIT FOR ONTARIANS TO PAY
OVER... ALMOST 350 BILLION DOLLARS.
THAT'S WHERE THE DEBT IS AT.

[APPLAUSE]

The translator continues
THE FORMER GOVERNMENT SPENT
A LOT OF MONEY TO DO A LOT
IN THIS PROVINCE, BUT THEY
DIDN'T ENSURE THE PROPER
FUNDING FOR THE FRANCOPHONE
UNIVERSITY.
THEY DIDN'T SET THAT FUNDING
ASIDE.

[APPLAUSE]

The translator continues
WE ARE DEDICATED TO MAKE
DECISIONS FOR ALL ONTARIANS.
AND WE'RE GOING TO PUT
ONTARIO BACK ON THE PATH
TOWARDS PROSPERITY.

[End of Translation]

The Speaker says NEXT
QUESTION.
THE MEMBER FOR PARRY
SOUND-MUSKOKA.

[APPLAUSE]

The caption changes to "Norman Miller. PC. Parry-Sound-Muskoka."

Miller is in his fifties, clean-shaven, with short gray hair. He wears glasses, a gray suit, white shirt, and checked black tie.

He says THANK YOU.
FOR THE MINISTER OF ENERGY,
NORTHERN DEVELOPMENT AND
MINES.
MR. SPEAKER, OUR GOVERNMENT
MADE A CLEAR, VERY CLEAR
PROMISE TO THE PEOPLE OF
ONTARIO THAT WE WOULD REDUCE
THE PRICE OF GASOLINE.

[APPLAUSE]

Miller says EARLY ON IN OUR MANDATE.
WE ARE DELIVERING ON THAT
PROMISE.
WE TOOK IMMEDIATE ACTION BY
SCRAPPING THE PREVIOUS
GOVERNMENT'S CAP AND TRADE
CARBON TAX, WHICH HAS
ALREADY REDUCED THE PRICE
THAT ONTARIO FAMILIES ARE
PAYING AT THE PUMPS.
CAP AND TRADE TOOK 4.3 CENTS
A LITRE OFF OF GASOLINE AND
5 CENTS A LITRE OFF OF
DIESEL.
BUT, MR. SPEAKER, PARTS OF
NORTHERN ONTARIO ARE NOT
BENEFITING FROM OUR
GOVERNMENT'S ACTIONS TO
REDUCE GAS PRICES.
SO ACCOUNT MINISTER LET THE
LEGISLATURE KNOW WHAT HE IS
DOING TO FIX THIS ISSUE?

[APPLAUSE]

The Speaker says MINISTER OF
ENERGY, NORTHERN DEVELOPMENT
AND MINES.
MINISTER OF INDIGENOUS AFFAIRS.

Rickford says THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER,
AND I WANT TO THANK THE
MEMBER FROM PARRY
SOUND-MUSKOKA FOR BRINGING
THIS ISSUE TO LIGHT.
MR. SPEAKER, THERE'S NO
QUESTION THAT WE'VE TAKEN
CONCRETE ACTION TO REDUCE
THE PRICE PER LITRE OF
GASOLINE IN THE PROVINCE OF
ONTARIO, AND MANY PARTS OF
THE PROVINCE HAVE SEEN THAT
REFLECTED IN THE PRICE PER
LITRE WHEN THEY GO TO THE
GAS PUMPS.
I RECEIVED THE CONCERNS
EXPRESSED FROM MY COLLEAGUES
ACROSS THE WAY FROM NORTHERN
ONTARIO THAT NOT ALL OF THAT
HAS TRANSLATED TO OUR PRICE
PER LITRE IN NORTHERN
ONTARIO.
IN NORTHWESTERN ONTARIO IN
PARTICULAR, MR. SPEAKER, WE
HAVE NOT SEEN ANY OF THESE
SAVINGS.
FROM THUNDER BAY WEST,
MR. SPEAKER, SAW ONLY A DROP
OF A THIRD OF THAT OVER THE
SAME PERIOD.
IT'S CLEAR TO ME THAT THESE
SAVINGS ARE NOT BEING PASSED
ON.
I'M SPEAKING TODAY NOT JUST
ON BEHALF OF THE PEOPLE FROM
THE GREAT KENORA-RAINY RIVER
DISTRICTS, MR. SPEAKER, BUT
ALSO UP IN KIIWETINOONG
WHERE THE PRICES ARE GROSSLY
DISTORTED AND UNFAIR,
MR. SPEAKER, AS THEY RELATE
TO OTHER PRICING THAT GOES
ON...

The Speaker says MEMBER FOR
WATERLOO.

Rickford says IS NOT STATE
INTERVENTION.

The Speaker says RESPONSE.

Rickford says THAT HAS NOT PROVEN TO
WORK FOR THE PROVINCES THAT
USE IT OR THE STATES THAT
HAVE USED THIS MODEL,
MR. SPEAKER.
WE'RE GOING TO STAND UP FOR
FAIR PRICING.

[APPLAUSE]

The Speaker says THANK YOU.
SUPPLEMENTARY.

Miller says THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER.
THANK YOU TO THE MINISTER
FOR ADDRESSING THIS ISSUE
THAT IS SO IMPORTANT IN THE
NORTH.
I APPRECIATE HAVING A
MINISTER WITH SO MUCH
EXPERIENCE STANDING UP FOR
NORTHERN ONTARIANS'
INTEREST.
MR. SPEAKER, IT'S INCREDIBLE
THAT, WHILE AVERAGE PRICES
OF GASOLINE HAVE FALLEN IN
THE REST OF ONTARIO,
NORTHERN ONTARIO IS NOT
BENEFITING FROM THESE
REDUCTIONS.
I KNOW THE MINISTER WILL
CONTINUE TO FIGHT FOR
NORTHERN COMMUNITIES AND
MAKE SURE EVERYONE IN OUR
PROVINCE BENEFITS FROM OUR
GOVERNMENT'S POLICY
DECISIONS.
RESIDENTS IN THE NORTH RELY
ON GASOLINE TO DRIVE LONG
DISTANCES TO WORK, TO PUT
FOOD ON THE TABLE.
THEY DRIVE THEIR KIDS TO
HOCKEY PRACTICE.
THEY DRIVE TO THE GROCERY
STORE.
THERE ARE VERY FEW
ALTERNATIVES TO DRIVING IN
NORTHERN ONTARIO.
MR. SPEAKER, I'D LIKE TO
THANK THE MINISTER FOR HIS
HARD WORK ON THIS FILE AND
ASK HIM WHAT NEXT STEPS THE
GOVERNMENT IS TAKING.

The Speaker says QUESTION.

Miller says NORTHERNERS' BENEFIT FROM
LOWER GAS PRICES?

[APPLAUSE]

The Speaker says THANK YOU.
MINISTER.

Rickford says THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER.
MEMBER FROM PARRY SOUND
MUSKOKA IS RIGHT TO POINT
OUT IN ORDER FORD OUR
CHILDREN TO TRAVEL FOR
COMPETITIONS IN SPORTS AND
OTHER ACTIVITIES, COSTS US
CONSIDERABLY MORE MONEY TO
GET TO THOSE DESTINATIONS
WHERE KIDS CAN BE EXPOSED TO
THE KIND OF CALIBRE THAT
OTHERS TAKE FOR GRANTED DOWN
HERE IN SOUTHERN ONTARIO.
FURTHERMORE IT'S TRUE,
MR. SPEAKER, THAT WE'VE BEEN
TRACKING FOR THE PAST
SEVERAL MONTHS THE UNFAIRNESS
AND PRICE PER LITRE AT THE
GAS PUMPS, PARTICULARLY IN
NORTHWESTERN ONTARIO.
THE STATE INTERVENTION
PROPOSED BY THE MEMBER OF
TIMMINS HAS PROVED TO NOT
WORK FOR SEVERAL PROVINCES
AND THE FEW STATES THAT USE
THAT.
SO HE CAN TELL THE
CHAIRMAN... I'M SORRY THE
LEADER OF HIS PARTY THAT
THIS IS NOT AN EFFECTIVE WAY
TO REDUCE THE PRICE PER
LITRE OF GASOLINE.

[APPLAUSE]

Rickford says THAT'S WHY I CALLED THE
COMPETITION BUREAU IN, TO
LAUNCH A FULL INVESTIGATION.

The Speaker says RESPONSE.

Rickford says INTO THE ENTIRE SUPPLY
CHAIN AS IT RELATES TO THE
PRICE OF GAS IN NORTH
AMERICAN... WESTERN ONTARIO.
WE HOPE THAT THE COMPETITION
BUREAU WILL TAKE THIS
REQUEST SERIOUSLY,
MR. SPEAKER, AND WE'LL GET
SOME ANSWERS.
THANKS.

[APPLAUSE]

The Speaker says THANK YOU.
QUESTION.
MEMBER FOR MUSHKEGOWUK-JAMES BAY.

The caption changes to "Guy Bourgouin. NDP. Mushkegowuk-James Bay."

Bourgouin is in his forties, clean-shaven, with short brown hair. He wears glasses, a gray suit, white shirt and striped gray tie.

He speaks French and a translator says THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER.
THE QUESTION IS FOR THE
MINISTER OF FRANCOPHONE
AFFAIRS.
LAST SATURDAY 13,000, 15,000
PEOPLE GATHERED TO OPPOSE
THE DECISION OF YOUR
GOVERNMENT.
IT'S ABOUT SUPPRESSING THE
OFFICE OF THE FRENCH
LANGUAGE SERVICES
COMMISSIONER AS AN
AUTONOMOUS ORGANIZATION.
AND THE CANCELLATION OF THE
FUNDING OF THE FRANCOPHONE
UNIVERSITY.
MR. SPEAKER, THIS IS A
LINGUISTIC CRISIS.
THIS IS AN ATTACK TOWARDS
THE FRANCO-ONTARIANS.
THERE IS ONLY ONE SOLUTION.
THE GOVERNMENT MUST REVERSE
HIS DECISION.
HERE IS MY QUESTION.
HAVE YOU LISTENED TO THE
REQUEST OF THE
FRANCO-ONTARIANS?

[APPLAUSE]

Mulroney speaks French and a translator says THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER, AND
I THANK THE MEMBER FOR HIS
QUESTION.
YES, WE ARE LISTENING TO THE
FRANCO-ONTARIANS.
WE KEEP LISTENING TO THEM
AND WE WILL KEEP WORKING FOR
THEM.
WE OFFERED LAST WEEK
AMENDMENTS TO BILL 57.
WE WANT TO REASSURE
FRANCO-ONTARIANS THAT THE
POSITION OF THE FRENCH
LANGUAGE SERVICES
COMMISSIONER RELYING ON THE
OMBUDSMAN WILL BE THE WAY IT
IS.
WE WANT TO FIND THE BEST
WAYS TO PROTECT THE RIGHTS
OF FRANCO-ONTARIANS WHILE
BEING RESPONSIBLE FISCALLY
SPEAKING.
THE COMMISSIONER WILL KEEP
PRESENTING HIS REPORT TO THE
LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY.
HE WILL GIVE HIS
INDEPENDENCE FROM THE
GOVERNMENT.
THE COMMISSIONER WILL ALSO
HAVE THE RIGHT TO GIVE
RECOMMENDATIONS TO IMPROVE
SERVICES.
AND OUR GOVERNMENT WILL
LISTEN TO THE
RECOMMENDATIONS ONCE THEY
ARE PRESENTED BY THE
COMMISSIONER.
MR. SPEAKER, WE ARE HERE TO
LISTEN TO THE
FRANCO-ONTARIANS.

[APPLAUSE]

Bourgouin speaks French and a translator says MINISTER, ON NOVEMBER 26,
THE OMBUDSMAN OF ONTARIO WAS
INTERVIEWED, AND THERE HE
SAID THAT THE
FRANCO-ONTARIAN COMMUNITY IS
RIGHT TO BE FEARFUL.
IN AN ARTICLE, THE OMBUDSMAN,
AND I QUOTE, THE OMBUDSMAN
ADMITS THAT HIS ROLE IS NOT
TO BE THE ADVOCATE OF THE
FRANCOPHONE.
AS FOR THE CANCELLATION OF
THE FUNDING OF THE
FRANCOPHONE UNIVERSITY...
AND I'M QUOTING STILL... THE
OMBUDSMAN EXPLAINS THAT IT'S
NOT HIS PLACE TO MEDDLE IN
THIS.
THE WORDS OF THE OMBUDSMAN
ARE CLEAR.
SO WHY DO YOU KEEP
SUPPORTING THE CANCELLATION
OF THE ONLY OFFICE THAT IS
ABLE TO WORK INDEPENDENTLY
TO SUPPORT AN ADVOCATE FOR
THE RIGHTS OF THE
FRANCO-ONTARIANS?

[APPLAUSE]

Mulroney speaks French and a translator says MR. SPEAKER, WE HAVEN'T
CANCELLED THE OFFICE OF THE
SERVICES COMMISSIONER.
WE HAVE INTEGRATED OFFICE IN
THE OMBUDSMAN OFFICE.

[APPLAUSE]

The translator continues
THE COMMISSIONER WILL BE
ABLE TO KEEP HIS
INDEPENDENCE.
THE CURRENT POWER TO MAKE
REPORTS AND TO MAKE
RECOMMENDATIONS, ALL THE
WORK THAT IS CURRENTLY DONE
BY THE COMMISSIONER WILL
KEEP...
WILL BE DONE AGAIN, STILL,
THROUGH THE OMBUDSMAN.
THE LINGUISTIC RIGHTS WILL
BE PROTECTED THE SAME WAY AS
IT IS.
SO I WOULD LIKE THE MEMBER
TO STOP SPREADING LIES.
WE WILL PROTECT THE
INDEPENDENCE OF THE
LINGUISTIC RIGHTS IN
ONTARIO.
THANK YOU.

[APPLAUSE]

The Speaker says ATTORNEY GENERAL WILL
WITHDRAW UNPARLIAMENTARY REMARKS.

[HECKLING]

The Speaker says ORDER.
ORDER.
THANK YOU.
START THE CLOCK.
THE NEXT QUESTION, MEMBER
FOR MARKHAM-THORNHILL.

[APPLAUSE]

The caption changes to "Logan Kanapathi. PC. Markham-Thornhill."

Kanapathi is in his forties, clean-shaven and balding. He wears a gray suit, white shirt, and striped red and blue tie.

He says THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER.
MY QUESTION IS FOR THE
MINISTER OF ENVIRONMENT,
CONSERVATION AND PARKS.
FOR TOO LONG, ONTARIO
FAMILIES WERE FACED WITH THE
PROSPECT OF RAISING COST OF
LIVING.
SKYROCKETING ENERGY COSTS
THAT HAVE... OUR ECONOMY AND
COMPETITION.
TO SEE THEIR HARD EARNED TAX
DOLLARS, POLICIES AND
PROGRAMS THAT DON'T DELIVER
THE RESULT.
CANCELLATION OF LIBERAL CAP
AND TRADE, CAP AND TRADE TAX,
FAMILIES ARE FINALLY ABLE TO
SEE SOME RELIEF.
LAST WEEK, THE MINISTER
BROUGHT FORWARD HIS
MADE-IN-ONTARIO
ENVIRONMENTAL PLAN.
CAN THE MINISTER TELL THE
PEOPLE OF ONTARIO HOW OUR
GOVERNMENT
WILL ALSO MAKE LIFE MORE
AFFORDABLE?

[APPLAUSE]

The Speaker says MINISTER OF
THE ENVIRONMENT,
CONSERVATION AND PARKS.

Phillips says MR. SPEAKER, AND I THANK
THE MEMBER FROM
MARKHAM-THORNHILL FOR HIS
QUESTION.
MR. SPEAKER, WE NOW HAVE A
BALANCED PLAN A PLAN THAT
BALANCES THE ECONOMY AND THE
ENVIRONMENT.
TO HIS QUESTION, THE WAY
THAT THAT MAKES LIFE MORE
AFFORDABLE FOR ONTARIANS IS
WE WILL HIT OUR PARIS
TARGETS.
WE WILL HIT THE OBJECTIVES
OUR COUNTRY HAS SET.
WE WILL REDUCE GREENHOUSE
GASES.
WE WILL PROTECT THE
ENVIRONMENT AND WE WILL NOT
CHARGE ONTARIANS A
REGRESSIVE JOB-KILLING TAX.

[APPLAUSE]

Phillips says MR. SPEAKER, THAT WE KNOW
IS GOING TO SAVE ONTARIANS
264 PER FAMILY.
WE KNOW THAT THE TRUDEAU
CARBON TAX WILL BE 648
BY... 22 PER FAMILY.
THAT'S... THAT'S WHY WE'LL
FIGHT THAT TAX.
MR. SPEAKER, OUR PLAN ALSO
CALLS FOR THE INCREASED USE
OF ETHANOL FOR CLEANER FUELS
IN GASOLINE AND THAT WILL
REDUCE GASOLINE PRICES.

The Speaker says RESPONSE.

Phillips says SO, MR. SPEAKER, AT EVERY
MOMENT WE ARE BALANCING THE
ECONOMY AND THE ENVIRONMENT.
AT EVERY PART OF OUR PLAN,
WE ARE MAKING SURE THAT WE
PROTECT OUR BEAUTIFUL
ENVIRONMENT BUT ALSO PROTECT
THE FINANCIAL HEALTH OF
FAMILIES.

[APPLAUSE]

The Speaker says THANK YOU.
SUPPLEMENTARY.

Kanapathi says THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER.
THANK YOU, MINISTER, FOR
THAT ANSWER.
I KNOW MY CONSTITUENTS WILL
BE HAPPY TO HEAR THAT OUR
GOVERNMENT HAS KEPT OUR
PROMISES TO NOT PLACE AN
UNNECESSARY REGRESSIVE TAX
ON THEM.
THEY WILL BE PLEASED TO KNOW
THAT THEY HAVE THE ABILITY
TO... WITHOUT THE BURDEN OF
A CARBON TAX.
THE EFFECT OF CLIMATE CHANGE
IS CONCERNING AND I CAN
ASSURE YOU OUR GOVERNMENT
TAKES THESE CONCERNS VERY
SERIOUSLY.
HOWEVER, THIS PLAN IS SO
MUCH MORE THAN JUST CLIMATE
ACTION.
IT IS A PLAN FOR
CONSERVATION, PLANS TO
PROTECT OUR LAKES, RIVERS,
LANDS AND AIR.
CAN THE MINISTER TELL THE
MEMBER OF THIS LEGISLATURE
WHAT OTHER CONCERNS THIS
PLAN TO BE BETTER TO PROTECT
OUR ENVIRONMENT?

[APPLAUSE]

The Speaker says MINISTER.

Phillips says MR. SPEAKER, AND AGAIN
THANK YOU TO THE MEMBER.
HE IS QUITE CORRECT.
OUR PLAN IS AN ENVIRONMENT
PLAN.
IT'S A PLAN THAT DEALS WITH
CLEAN AIR, CLEAN WATER,
CLEAN LAND.
IT'S A PLAN THAT DOES
ADDRESS THE VITAL ISSUE OF
CLIMATE CHANGE.

The Speaker says OPPOSITION
WILL COME TO ORDER.

Phillips says VITAL ISSUES LIKE WATER
SECURITY.

The Speaker says MEMBER FOR
WATERLOO, COME TO ORDER.

Phillips says SEWAGE IN OUR WATER,
CERTAINLY SOMETHING THAT I'M
SURE THE N.D.P. CARES ABOUT.
IT TALKS ABOUT SOIL AND WHAT
WE DO WITH EXCESS SOIL.
IT TALKS ABOUT OUR PARKS AND
EXPANDING BY ONE MILLION THE
NUMBER OF ONTARIANS AND
VISITORS THAT CAN ENJOY OUR
PARKS EVERY YEAR.
MR. SPEAKER, IT ADDRESSES A
RANGE OF ISSUES, IMPORTANT
ENVIRONMENTAL ISSUES
INCLUDING CLIMATE CHANGE BUT
NOT EXCLUSIVE OF CLIMATE
CHANGE.
MR. SPEAKER, THESE ARE THE
ISSUES ONTARIANS ARE WORRIED
ABOUT.
A BALANCED PLAN BALANCING
THE ENVIRONMENT, THE ECONOMY,
MAKING SURE WE PROTECT OUR
ECONOMY AND PROTECT OUR...
OUR ENVIRONMENT AND
FAMILIES' POCKETS.

[APPLAUSE]

The Speaker says NEXT
QUESTION.
THE MEMBER FOR BRAMPTON CENTRE.

The caption changes to "Sara Singh. NDP. Brampton Centre."

Singh is in her thirties, with long curly black hair. She wears a printed black jacket over a black dress.

She says THANK YOU VERY MUCH,
MR. SPEAKER.
MY QUESTION IS FOR THE
ATTORNEY GENERAL.
A FEW WEEKS AGO REGIONAL
SENIOR JUSTICE PETER DALEY
ADDRESSED THE COURTS TO
BRING ATTENTION TO THE
ABYSMAL STATE OF BRAMPTON
COURTS FACILITIES.
DALEY STATED AND I'LL
QUOTE...
THE ONTARIO GOVERNMENT, PAST
AND PRESENT, IS EITHER
WILLFULLY BLIND TO THE
EROSION OF TRUST CAUSED BY
ITS FAILURE TO TAKE TIMELY
STEPS TO ADDRESS THE
FACILITY'S CRISIS IN
BRAMPTON, OR IT BELIEVES
THAT SPENDING ON THIS
COURTHOUSE WILL NOT RESULT
IN MORE VOTES.
SINCE THE MINISTER DECLINED
AN INVITATION FROM MR. DALEY
TO HEAR HIS REMARKS AND TO
TOUR THE COURTHOUSE IN
BRAMPTON, IS THE MINISTER
WILLING TO VISIT THE
COURTHOUSE TO LEARN HOW
FIRSTHAND CHRONICALLY
UNDERFUNDED FACILITIES IN
OUR CITY ARE BLOCKING ACCESS
TO JUSTICE?

[APPLAUSE]

The Speaker says THE ATTORNEY
GENERAL.

Mulroney says THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER,
AND I THANK THE MEMBER FOR
THE QUESTION AND FOR THE
INVITATION.
I AM LOOKING FORWARD TO
TOURING THE BRAMPTON
COURTHOUSE.
IN FEBRUARY LAST YEAR,
CONSTRUCTION COMMENCED ON A
SIX-STOREY ADDITION TO THE
BRAMPTON COURTHOUSE.
WE ARE TAKING A FISCALLY
RESPONSIBLE APPROACH TO THE
BRAMPTON ADDITION, WHERE THE
BASEMENT, FIRST AND SECOND
FLOORS WILL BE COMPLETED NOW
TO ADDRESS IMMEDIATE NEEDS,
WHILE THE REMAINING FLOORS
WILL BE FIT AT A FUTURE
DATE.
THE PREVIOUS LIBERAL
GOVERNMENT, AS YOU KNOW,
MR. SPEAKER, LEFT US WITH A
15 BILLION DOLLAR DEFICIT, 340
BILLION DOLLARS IN DEBT FOR US TO
PAY BACK.

The Speaker says ORDER.

Mulroney says WE WERE GIVEN A MANDATE
FROM THE PEOPLE OF ONTARIO
TO CLEAN UP THE FINANCIAL
MESS AND WE ARE WORKING TO
DO SO WHILE FINDING WAYS TO
DELIVER EFFICIENT AND
EFFECTIVE SERVICES TO MEET
THE NEEDS OF ONTARIANS.
THE MINISTRY WILL CONTINUE
TO REVIEW AND RESPOND TO THE
FACILITY NEEDS OF THE
BRAMPTON COURTHOUSE AS WE
MOVE FORWARD AND I LOOK
FORWARD TO...

Interjection: GOOD JOB.

[APPLAUSE]

The Speaker says SUPPLEMENTARY.

Singh says THANK YOU, SPEAKER.
AND THANK YOU TO THE
MINISTER.
MY COLLEAGUES AND I FROM
BRAMPTON ON BOTH SIDES OF
THIS HOUSE ARE VERY PROUD OF
OUR FAST GROWING CITY BUT WE
ALL ACKNOWLEDGE THAT OUR
CITY NEEDS THE SERVICES TO
GROW WITH US.
I'VE PERSONALLY HEARD
STORIES ABOUT SERIOUS CASES
BEING STAYED OR EVEN
DISMISSED BECAUSE COURTROOMS
ARE NOT AVAILABLE OR TRIAL
DATES CANNOT BE SECURED IN A
TIMELY MANNER.
THE GOVERNMENT HAS FAILED TO
ADDRESS THE LACK OF
RESOURCES TO THE COURTS IN
BRAMPTON, AND WE ARE
WITNESSING SIGNIFICANT
IMPACTS TO OUR JUSTICE
SYSTEM.
WHAT IS THE MINISTER WILLING
TO DO TO ENSURE THAT THE
PEOPLE OF BRAMPTON AND
PEOPLE ACROSS THE REGION OF
PEEL HAVE TIMELY ACCESS TO
JUSTICE?

[APPLAUSE]

The Speaker says MINISTER?

Mulroney says AS I'VE SAID, WE ARE
BUILDING... IN THE PROCESS
OF CONSTRUCTING A NEW
COURTHOUSE IN BRAMPTON TO
ADDRESS THIS ISSUE.
I ACTUAL... ACCESS TO
JUSTICE FOR PEOPLE ACROSS
THIS PROVINCE IS A PRIORITY
FOR OUR GOVERNMENT.
WHILE THE GOVERNMENT HAS
LEFT US WITH A FISCAL MESS
TO CLEAN UP, WE'RE TRYING TO
FIND OTHER APPROACHES TO
IMPROVE ACCESS TO JUSTICE
INCLUDING INVESTING IN
TECHNOLOGIES AND FINDING
OTHER WAYS TO MAKE SURE THAT
ONTARIANS CAN ACCESS COURTS
AND SERVICES THEY NEED.
MR. SPEAKER, THIS IS WHAT WE
HAVE BEEN DOING SINCE WE
WERE ELECTED ON DAY ONE.
WE WILL CONTINUE TO DO THAT
AND ADDRESSING THE
FACILITY'S NEEDS THIS INN
THIS PROVINCE IS PART OF
THAT PLAN.
I LOOK FORWARD TO SPENDING
TIME IN BRAMPTON AND TOURING
THE COURTHOUSE.

[APPLAUSE]

The Speaker says START THE CLOCK.
NEXT QUESTION.
THE MEMBER FOR
MISSISSAUGA-STREETSVILLE.

[APPLAUSE]

Interjection: HEY HEY.

The caption changes to "Nina Tangri. PC. Mississauga-Streetsville."

Tangri is in her forties, with wavy dark hair. She wears a black blazer over a printed black dress.

She says THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER.
MY QUESTION IS TO THE
HONOURABLE MINISTER OF
CHILDREN, COMMUNITY AND
SOCIAL SERVICES.
LAST WEEK, THE PARLIAMENTARY
BUDGET OFFICER TABLED HIS
REPORT DETAILING THE COSTING
OF IRREGULAR MIGRATION
ACROSS CANADA'S SOUTHERN
BORDER.
THE P.B.O. ESTIMATES THAT
THE AVERAGE COST FOR EACH
IRREGULAR MIGRANT WILL RISE
TO AN AVERAGE OF 16,666
NEXT YEAR.

Interjection: WOW.

Tangri says THIS AMOUNTS TO A TOTAL
VARIABLE COST OF 340
MILLION DOLLARS THIS YEAR AND IS
PROJECTED TO RISE TO 396
MILLION DOLLARS NEXT YEAR.

Interjection:
UNBELIEVABLE.

Tangri says ONLY ACCOUNTS FOR THE
COSTS INCURRED BY THE
FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, NOT THE
PROVINCIAL GOVERNMENT.
ACCOUNT MINISTER PLEASE TELL
US WHEN ONTARIO EXPECTS TO
BE REIMBURSED.

The Speaker says QUESTION.

Tangri says BY THE FEDERAL LIBERAL
GOVERNMENT'S FAILED BORDER
POLICIES?

Interjection: GOOD
QUESTION.

[APPLAUSE]

The Speaker says THE MINISTER CHILDREN,
COMMUNITY AND SOCIAL SERVICES.

The caption changes to "Honourable Lisa MacLeod. PC. Minister of Children, Community and Social Services."

MacLeod is in her forties, with shoulder-length, curly blond hair. She wears a black dress.

She says THANK YOU VERY MUCH,
SPEAKER.
I AM SO DELIGHT THAD WE HAVE
THIS QUESTION ON THE FLOOR
OF THE ASSEMBLY.
I ONLY WISH IT HAD COME FROM
THE OPPOSITION TO BE AS
DILIGENT IN THEIR WORK AS
THE MEMBER FROM OUR PARTY
BECAUSE WHAT HAPPENED LAST
WEEK.

The Speaker says ORDER.

MacLeod says IS THE PARLIAMENTARY
BUDGET OFFICER AND TORONTO
STREETS SURVEY VALIDATED
WHAT THIS GOVERNMENT HAS
BEEN SAYING SINCE JUNE 29th.
THAT BECAUSE OF THE ILLEGAL
BORDER CROSSING IN QUEBEC,
THERE WAS SUBSTANTIAL
PRESSURE ON OUR SHELTER
SYSTEM IN THE CITY OF
TORONTO, WHICH IS 40 percent.

The Speaker says MEMBER FOR
OTTAWA CENTRE, COME TO
ORDER.

MacLeod says AND THERE'S SUBSTANTIAL
PRESSURE ON OUR PROVINCIAL
GOVERNMENT.
THE PARLIAMENTARY BUDGET
OFFICER VALIDATED OUR 200
MILLION DOLLARS AND GROWING COSTS IN
THE PROVINCE OF ONTARIO.
WE ARE SIMPLY ASKING THE
MINISTER OF IMMIGRATION AND
THE PRIME MINISTER TO MAKE
US WHOLE, AS EVERY SINGLE
PREMIER IN EVERY SINGLE
PROVINCE AND TERRITORY HAS
SUGGESTED WHEN THEY STOOD
SIDE BY SIDE WITH OUR
PREMIER.

The Speaker says RESPONSE.

MacLeod says WHAT'S ALSO TROUBLING IS
THE FACT THAT THE
PARLIAMENTARY BUDGET OFFICER
SUGGESTED THIS IS GOING TO
COST TAXPAYERS 1 BILLION DOLLARS JUST FOR THE FEDERAL
GOVERNMENT ALONE.

[APPLAUSE]

The Speaker says SUPPLEMENTARY.

Tangri says THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER.
MINISTER, THAT WASN'T THE
ONLY DISCOURAGING REPORT
RELEASED LAST THURSDAY.
THE CITY OF TORONTO ALSO
RELEASED FINDINGS FROM THEIR
STREET NEEDS ASSESSMENT,
WHICH SURVEYED THE CITY'S
HOMELESSNESS BACK IN APRIL.
THE FINDINGS CLEARLY SHOW
THAT THE SHELTER SYSTEM IS
STRUGGLING TO MEET THE
INCREASED DEMAND AND THAT
ROUGHLY 40 percent OF OCCUPANTS
IDENTIFY AS REFUGEES OR
ASYLUM SEEKERS.

Interjection: WOW.

Tangri says I IMAGINE OTHER
MUNICIPALITIES ACROSS THE
PROVINCE ARE FACING THE SAME
PREDICAMENT.
MINISTER...

The Speaker says MEMBER FOR
WINDSOR WEST, COME TO ORDER.

Tangri says EXPECTED TO OPERATE UNDER
THIS ADDED STRAIN AS THE
TEMPERATURE FALLS?

Interjection: GOOD
QUESTION.

The Speaker says MINISTER.

[APPLAUSE]

MacLeod says RECENTLY MET WITH BOTH
MAYOR TORY AND MAYOR WATSON
IN OUR TWO LARGEST CITIES
WHO HAVE SAID THAT THEIR
CAPACITY IS AT 40 percent.
I WANT TO BE PERFECTLY CLEAR,
THE FEDERAL MINISTER OF
IMMIGRATION MAY LIKE TO CALL
PEOPLE NAMES WHEN THEY
DISAGREE WITH HIM, BUT THE
FACTS DON'T LIE.

[INTERJECTIONS]

MacLeod says IN FACT WE KNOW FOR EXAMPLE.

The Speaker says ORDER.

MacLeod says THAT THE MINISTRY...
SURVEY.

The Speaker says COME TO
ORDER.

MacLeod says PARLIAMENTARY BUDGET
OFFICER HAS VALIDATED OUR
NUMBER SO WHAT I'D LIKE TO
SEE FROM PRIME MINISTER
TRUDEAU IS A TWEET AND A
PLEDGE FOR THE 200 MILLION DOLLARS SO WE CAN...

[APPLAUSE]

MacLeod says GET THE SUPPORTS THEY NEED...

[APPLAUSE]

The Speaker says ONCE AGAIN I
APOLOGIZE TO THE MINISTER
FOR HAVING TO CUT HER OFF IN
MID SENTENCE BUT HER
COLLEAGUES ROSE, VOLUME OF
THE STANDING OVATION WAS
SUCH I COULD NOT HEAR HER.
I HAD TO CUT HER OFF.
NEXT QUESTION.
THE MEMBER FOR
UNIVERSITY-ROSEDALE.

The caption changes to "Jessica Bell. NDP. University-Rosedale."

Bell is in her late thirties, with shoulder-length wavy brown hair. She wears a black jacket over a burgundy shirt.

She says THIS IS TO THE MINISTER
OF TRANSPORTATION.
LAST WEEK, THE GOVERNMENT
QUIETLY RELEASED THE TERMS
OF REFERENCE FOR THEIR PLAN
TO BREAK UP TORONTO'S SUBWAY
SYSTEM AND TAKE IT AWAY FROM
TORONTONIANS.
WHILE THIS GOVERNMENT HAS
BEEN CAGEY ABOUT THE THEIR
PLANS FOR OUR SUBWAYS, THE
GOVERNMENT CLEARLY LAYS OUT
THE AGENDA FOR SELLING OFF
AND PRIVATIZING THIS
VALUABLE PUBLIC ASSET.
THEN ON FRIDAY.

The Speaker says GOVERNMENT
SIDE, COME TO ORDER.

Bell says CITY OF TORONTO TELL THE
PROVINCE HOW MUCH THE TTC
IS WORTH.
STEP ONE TO SELLING OFF A
PUBLIC ASSET IS TO DETERMINE
HOW MUCH IT'S WORTH.
WILL THE MINISTER COME CLEAN
AND TELL THE PUBLIC THAT
THEIR PLAN FOR TORONTO'S
SUBWAY SYSTEM HAS BEEN TO
BREAK IT UP AND SELL IT OFF?

[APPLAUSE]

The Speaker says THE MINISTER
OF TRANSPORTATION.

The caption changes to "Honourable Jeff Yurek. PC. Minister of Transportation."

Yurek is in his forties, clean-shaven, with thinning brown hair. He wears a gray suit, white shirt, and striped gray tie.

He says THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR
THE MOMENT OPPOSITE FOR THAT
QUESTION.
SPEAKER, WE HAVE NO
INTENTION OF BREAKING UP AND
PRIVATIZING AND SELLING OFF
THE TTC
WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO IS
WHAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN DONE
LONG AGO IS TO CREATE THE
REGIONAL STRUCTURE THIS
PROVINCE NEEDS.

The Speaker says OPPOSITION,
COME TO ORDER.

Yurek says TO WORK WITH THE CITY OF
TORONTO TO LOOK AT UPLOADING
THE SYSTEM.
RIGHT NOW WE HAVE A SPECIAL
ADVISOR, MICHAEL LINDSAY,
WHO HAS BEEN WORKING WITH
STAKEHOLDERS IN TORONTO TO
SEE WHICH IS THE BEST WAY
FORWARD.
HE'S COME FORWARD WITH A
PLAN PUT FORWARD WHICH I
ADDRESSED IN MY LETTER TO
THE MAYOR JOHN TORY.
I'VE SPOKEN TO MAYOR TORY.
WE'RE GOING TO WORK TOGETHER
WITH CITY COUNCIL.
WE'RE GOING TO COME TOGETHER
WITH A PLAN THAT WORKS NOT
ONLY FOR TORONTO BUT GTHA AS
A WHOLE.
IF YOU GET THAT REGION
ROLLING, MR. SPEAKER, YOU
GET THE PROVINCE ROLLING AND
OPENING UP ONTARIO FOR
BUSINESS.

[APPLAUSE]

The Speaker says THANK YOU.
SUPPLEMENTARY.

Bell says MINISTER, TORONTO BUILT
THE SUBWAY.
TORONTO TAXPAYERS AND
TRANSIT RIDERS PAY FOR THE
SUBWAY AND TORONTONIANS
GOVERN THE SUBWAY.
IT'S OURS, NOT YOURS, TO
SELL.
BREAKING UP...

[APPLAUSE]

Bell says BREAKING UP THE SUBWAY AND
SELLING OFF PARTS OF IT WILL
NOT HELP OVERCROWDING OR
DELAYS, NOR WILL IT MAKE
FARES MORE AFFORDABLE.
ON THE CONTRARY, WE HAVE
SEEN FROM OTHER PRIVATIZED
TRANSIT LINES THE FARES ARE
SET FOR THE SERVICE PROVIDER
AND NOT WHAT'S AFFORDABLE
FOR THE RIDERS.
WHAT TORONTONIANS WANT TO
SEE FROM THIS GOVERNMENT IS
INVESTMENT IN TRANSIT TO
MAKE THEIR COMMUTES SHORTER
AND FARES MORE AFFORDABLE
NOT A 1.4 BILLION DOLLARS CUT TO
INFRASTRUCTURE.
WILL THE PREMIER DO THE
RIGHT THING, LISTEN TO
RIDERS AND STOP THIS
WRONG-HEADED DECISION TO
BREAK UP TORONTO'S SUBWAY?

[APPLAUSE]

The Speaker says MINISTER.

Yurek says THANK YOU VERY MUCH,
MR. SPEAKER.
AND AGAIN THANKS FOR THAT
SUPPLEMENTAL FROM THE MEMBER
OPPOSITE.
UNFORTUNATELY IT WAS MISSING
QUITE A BIT OF ACTUAL DATA
THAT HAS BEEN COMING FORTH.
SO LET ME BE CLEAR... I'LL
BE CRYSTAL CLEAR THAT THE
TTC WILL RUN AND OPERATE
THE SUBWAYS.
WE HAVE REQUESTED A LOT OF
DATA FROM THE TTC AND THE
CITY AND METROLINX TO FIGURE
OUT WHAT'S THE BEST WAY
FORWARD AND THAT WILL BE
COMING FORWARD.
MR. SPEAKER, LISTEN, AFTER
THE UPLOAD IS COMPLETED, WE
ARE GOING TO DO FOR TORONTO
AND REGIONAL SYSTEMS.

The Speaker says MEMBER FOR
UNIVERSITY-ROSEDALE, COME TO
ORDER.

Yurek says WE ARE GOING TO BUILD THE
YONGE EXTENSION.
WE'RE GOING TO BUILD OUT
SUBWAYS OUT TO ETOBICOKE.
MR. SPEAKER, WE ARE GOING TO
GROW THE TRANSIT SYSTEM.
WE ARE GOING TO GET THIS
PROVINCE GOING FROM THE GTHA
DOWN TO DOWNTOWN TORONTO...

[APPLAUSE]

The Speaker says STOP THE CLOCK.

[INTERJECTIONS]

The Speaker says ONCE AGAIN, I'LL ACKNOWLEDGE
SOME OF THE MEMBERS ARE VERY
ENTHUSIASTIC AND WANT TO
DEMONSTRATE THEIR AGREEMENT
WITH A MEMBER WHO HAS THE
FLOOR PERHAPS.
MINISTER ANSWERING A
QUESTION.
BUT ONCE I CANNOT HEAR THE
MINISTER'S RESPONSE BECAUSE
OF THE VOLUME OF THE
STANDING OVATION, I HAVE TO
STAND UP AND INTERRUPT THE
MINISTER IN MID SENTENCE.
NEXT QUESTION.
THE MEMBER FOR THORNHILL.

[APPLAUSE]

The caption changes to "Gila Martow. PC. Thornhill."

Martow is in her forties, with wavy blond hair to her shoulders. She wears glasses, a gray plaid blazer and a black shirt.

She says THANK YOU VERY MUCH,
MR. SPEAKER.
MY QUESTION FOR THE MINISTER
OF FINANCE.
OUR GOVERNMENT IS WORKING
HARD TO MAKE SURE THE WHOLE
WORLD KNOWS THAT ONTARIO IS
NOW OPEN FOR BUSINESS.

Interjection: HEAR, HEAR!

Martow says WE ARE TAKING ACTION SO
THAT OUR PROVINCE ONCE AGAIN
RETAIN ITS PLACE AS THE
ECONOMIC ENGINE OF CANADA.
BUT, MR. SPEAKER, IN ORDER
TO DO SO.

The Speaker says OPPOSITION,
COME TO ORDER.

Martow says SPONSOR INTERNATIONAL
RELATIONSHIPS TO ENCOURAGE
INVESTMENT IN ONTARIO.
LAST WEEK WE WERE HAPPY TO
HEAR THAT OUR MINISTER OF
FINANCE VISITED NEW YORK
CITY.
COULD THE MINISTER PLEASE
EXPLAIN THE PURPOSE OF HIS
TRIP AND WHAT HE
ACCOMPLISHED WHILE HE WAS
THERE?

[APPLAUSE]

The Speaker says MINISTER OF
FINANCE.

Fedeli says THANK YOU, SPEAKER, AND
THANK YOU TO THE MEMBER FOR
THORNHILL.
LAST WEEK, WE WERE THRILLED
TO LET THE INVESTMENT
COMMUNITY IN NEW YORK CITY
KNOW THAT ONTARIO IS OPEN
FOR BUSINESS.

[APPLAUSE]

Fedeli says WE SPOKE WITH THE CANADIAN
ASSOCIATION OF NEW YORK ABOUT
FOSTERING A CULTURE OF
INNOVATION IN OUR PROVINCE
AND NURTURING AN ATTRACTIVE
INVESTMENT CLIMATE.
WE ALSO DISCUSSED OUR
GOVERNMENT'S PLAN FOR LOWER
TAXES, SMARTER SPENDING AND
DEFICIT REDUCTION WITH
INTERNATIONAL INVESTORS, AND
WE MADE CLEAR THAT FOR THE
FIRST TIME IN 15 YEARS,
ONTARIO'S GOVERNMENT WANTS
TO WORK WITH THE BUSINESS
COMMUNITY.
AFTER OUR TRIP TO NEW YORK,
EVERYONE ACROSS ONTARIO CAN
BE EXCITED FOR THE SUCCESS
THAT LIES AHEAD, BECAUSE
ONTARIO IS OPEN FOR
BUSINESS.

[APPLAUSE]

The Speaker says STOP THE CLOCK.
START THE CLOCK.
IS SUPPLEMENTARY.

Martow says THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER,
AND THANK YOU TO THE
MINISTER FOR HIS RESPONSE.
WE'RE ALL VERY EXCITED TO
HEAR ABOUT THE SUCCESS THE
MINISTER AND HIS TEAM HAD IN
SPREADING THE MESSAGE THAT
ONTARIO IS OPEN FOR
BUSINESS.
IT IS ONLY BY SHARING THE
HARD WORK EVERYONE IN OUR
GOVERNMENT IS DOING THAT WE
WILL BE ABLE TO ATTRACT THE
INVESTMENT ONTARIO NEEDS TO
GET MOVING AGAIN.
INDEED IT'S BEEN A LONG TIME
SINCE THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY
SAW THIS LEVEL OF SUPPORT
FROM ONTARIO'S GOVERNMENT.
MR. SPEAKER, OUR GOVERNMENT
HAS TAKEN ACTION TO OPEN
ONTARIO TO INVESTMENT, WITH
PLANS TO CONTINUE FOSTERING
AN ATTRACTIVE BUSINESS
ENVIRONMENT.
COULD THE MINISTER SHARE THE
DETAILS OF OUR "OPEN FOR
BUSINESS" MESSAGE AND HOW
THE ACTIONS OF OUR
GOVERNMENT HAVE RESONATED
WITH THE INVESTMENT
COMMUNITY?

[APPLAUSE]

The Speaker says MINISTER.

Fedeli says THANK YOU, SPEAKER.
OUR OPEN-FOR-BUSINESS
APPROACH WAS WARMLY RECEIVED
BY THE INVESTMENT COMMUNITY
IN NEW YORK.
IN FACT THEY SAID OUR
MESSAGE WAS THE BEST THEY'VE
HEARD IN 15 YEARS.

[APPLAUSE]

Fedeli says WE WERE ABLE TO SHARE THAT
CAP AND TRADE CARBON TAX IS
NO LONGER PUNISHING
BUSINESSES IN OUR PROVINCE.
WE PROMOTED OUR DECISION TO
PARALLEL THE FEDERAL CHANGES
TO THE ACCELERATED CAPITAL
COST ALLOWANCE, WHICH MAKES
BUSINESS INVESTMENTS MORE
ATTRACTIVE IN ONTARIO, AND
WE ONCE AGAIN COMMITTED TO
CUTTING RED TAPE BY 25 percent BY
2022 IN ORDER TO MAKE DOING
BUSINESS IN ONTARIO EASIER.

[APPLAUSE]

Fedeli says SPEAKER, WE ARE RESTORING
CONFIDENCE IN ONTARIO AS THE
BEST PLACE TO INVEST AND DO
BUSINESS.

[APPLAUSE]

The Speaker says THANK YOU.
NEXT QUESTION.
THE MEMBER FOR OTTAWA CENTRE.

The caption changes to "Joel Harden. NDP. Ottawa Centre."

Harden is in his late thirties, clean-shaven, with short curly brown hair. He wears a gray suit and patterned gray shirt.

He says THANK YOU, SPEAKER.
THANK YOU.
TODAY'S INTERNATIONAL DAY
FOR PEOPLE WITH
DISABILITIES.
AS I POSE THIS QUESTION,
SPEAKER, I WANT TO
ACKNOWLEDGE IN SPEAKER'S
GALLERY SOME OF OUR FRIENDS
IN DISABILITY RIGHTS
COMMUNITY.
THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE.

[APPLAUSE]

Harden says SPEAKER, TODAY'S THE DAY
THAT SHOULD BE REMINDING
THAWS OUR PROVINCE IS ON A
DEADLINE.
MY QUESTION'S TO THE DEPUTY
PREMIER, PARDON ME, SPEAKER.
WE'RE ON A DEADLINE,
SPEAKER.
THE ACCESSIBILITY FOR
ONTARIANS WITH DISABILITIES
ACT HAS TO BE SET IN PLACE
WITH A LEGITIMATE PLAN BY
2025.
EVERY DISABILITY RIGHTS
LEADER AND ORGANIZATION I'VE
MET HAS TOLD THAWS WE'RE WAY
BEHIND IN MEETING THAT
OBJECTIVE.
DOES THE MINISTER BELIEVE
WE'RE ON TRACK TO HAVE A
FULLY ACCESSIBLE PROVINCE BY
2025?

[APPLAUSE]

The Speaker says DEPUTY
PREMIER.

A voice says COMMUNITY SAFETY AND
CORRECTIONAL SERVICES.

The Speaker says MINISTER OF
COMMUNITY SAFETY AND
CORRECTIONAL SERVICES.

Jones says THANK YOU SO MUCH.
YOU KNOW, I AM REALLY GLAD
YOU'VE ASKED THIS QUESTION
BECAUSE MY COLLEAGUE THE
MINISTER FOR SENIORS AND
ACCESSIBILITY HAS BEEN
WORKING FULL OUT ON THESE
ISSUES AND ACTUALLY HE'S
AWAY TODAY DOING A SPEECH ON
THIS VERY ISSUE.
IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE WORK
WITH ALL OF OUR STAKEHOLDERS.
WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE
HAVE THE MOST OPEN AND
ACCESSIBLE PROVINCE BUT WE
NEED TO DO IT IN A
REASONABLE WAY THAT MAKES
SURE THAT NO ONE GETS HURT
ALONG THE WAY.
SO WE'RE WORKING WITH
STAKEHOLDERS.
WE'RE WORKING WITH THE
ACCESSIBILITY CITIZENS AND
WE'RE MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE
GETTING IT RIGHT.
THANK YOU.

The Speaker says THANK YOU.
SUPPLEMENTARY.

Harden says THANK YOU, SPEAKER.
BACK TO THE DEPUTY PREMIER.
ACHIEVING FULL ACCESSIBILITY
ACCORDING TO EXPERTS THAT I
TALKED TO REQUIRES TWO
THINGS, A COMMITMENT AND A
PLAN.
BUT RIGHT NOW THREE OUT OF
FIVE AODA STANDARD
COMMITTEES, WHICH ACTUALLY
ARE DOING THE WORK ABOUT
ACCESSIBLE AND INCLUSIVE
HEALTH CARE AND EDUCATION
FOR PEOPLE LIVING WITH A
DISABILITY, THEIR WORK HAS
BEEN FROZEN SINCE THE
ELECTION.
IT'S ONE THING TO SAY WE
SUPPORT ACCESSIBILITY, BUT
IT'S ANOTHER THING TO
ACTUALLY MAKE IT A PRIORITY
BY PUTTING THOSE A.O.D.A.
COMMITTEES TO WORK.
MY QUESTION IS VERY SIMPLE.
WILL THE MINISTER UNFREEZE
THE COMMITTEES AND WILL THE
MINISTER WORK WITH PEOPLE
WITH DISABILITIES TO DEVELOP
A MULTI-YEAR ACCESSIBILITY
PLAN SO ONTARIO IS FULLY
ACCESSIBLE BY 2025?

[APPLAUSE]

The Speaker says MINISTER.

Jones says THERE IS NO DOUBT,
SPEAKER, THAT EVERYONE IN
ONTARIO DESERVES TO FULLY
PARTICIPATE IN OUR LIVES, IN
THE EVERYDAY LIVES AND THAT
INCLUDES RECREATION.
THAT INCLUDES OUR WORKFORCE.
THAT INCLUDES OUR FAMILIES,
OUR SCHOOLS, OUR JUSTICE
SYSTEM.
BUT WE NEED TO DO IT IN A
REASONABLE AND MEASURED WAY.
THAT IS WHAT MY COLLEAGUE IS
DOING.

The Speaker says OPPOSITION,
COME TO ORDER.

Jones says AND WE WILL MAKE SURE
THAT WORK GETS DONE BUT WE
NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT THE
STAKEHOLDERS.

The Speaker says MEMBER FOR
DAVENPORT, COME TO ORDER.

Jones says THANK YOU.

[APPLAUSE]

The Speaker says NEXT
QUESTION.
THE MEMBER FOR BURLINGTON.

[APPLAUSE]

[Cheers]

The caption changes to "Jane McKenna. PC. Burlington."

McKenna is in her forties, with short chestnut hair. She wears a dark gray blazer over a yellow dress.

She says THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER.
MY QUESTION IS TO THE
MINISTER OF THE ENVIRONMENT.
OUR GOVERNMENT IS WORKING
HARD TO GROW OUR ECONOMY
WHILE PROTECTING THE
ENVIRONMENT, WHILE THE PRIME
MINISTER OF CANADA IMPOSES A
CARBON TAX ON WORKERS AND
FAMILIES, OUR GOVERNMENT IS
RESTORING HOPE AND
AFFORDABILITY FOR OUR
PEOPLE.
I'M PROUD OF OUR MINISTER OF
ENVIRONMENT.
I'M PROUD OF HIS
MADE-IN-ONTARIO SOLUTIONS.
WE ARE PROUD OF OUR PLAN TO
ENSURE CLEAN AIR AND WATER
AND CONSERVATION OF OUR
NATURAL HERITAGE.
CAN OUR MINISTER CONFIRM
THAT OUR PLAN WILL HELP
REDUCE EMISSIONS WHILE
GROWING OUR ECONOMY?

[APPLAUSE]

The Speaker says MINISTER OF
THE ENVIRONMENT,
CONSERVATION AND PARKS.

Phillips says MR. SPEAKER, BEFORE LET
ME JUST COMMEND THE MEMBER
FROM BURLINGTON FOR HER
QUESTION BUT ALSO HER
PROMOTION TO D.A. FOR THE
MINISTER OF LABOUR.

[APPLAUSE]

[Cheers]

Phillips says MR. SPEAKER, AS THE MEMBER
REFERENCED, IMPORTANTLY IN
GETTING RID OF CAP AND TRADE,
WE SAVED ONTARIANS 260.
THAT'S MONEY IN THEIR
POCKETS.
BUT IN ADDITION TO THAT, WE
NOW HAVE PROVIDED A PLAN, A
PLAN THAT BALANCES THE
ECONOMY AND THE ENVIRONMENT,
A PLAN THAT MAKES SURE THAT
WE REDUCE GREENHOUSE GASES
IN A SENSIBLE WAY THAT TAKES
ADVANTAGE OF THE SACRIFICES
ONTARIANS HAVE ALREADY MADE,
TO MAKE ONTARIO THE LEADING
REDUCING PROVINCE.
22 percent SINCE 2005, MR. SPEAKER.
BUT TO GET US.

The Speaker says ORDER.

Phillips says TO THE INTERNATIONAL AND
WE BALANCE THE HEALTH OF THE
ECONOMY AND ENVIRONMENT.
WE MEET OUR OBJECTIVES, WE
HAVE A HEALTHY ENVIRONMENT
AS WELL.

[APPLAUSE]

The Speaker says SUPPLEMENTARY.

McKenna says MINISTER, THANK YOU FOR
YOUR KIND WORDS.
MINISTER, OUR PLAN, OUR
MADE-IN-ONTARIO PLAN, WILL
ENSURE THAT POLLUTERS ARE
HELD ACCOUNTABLE WITH
STRONGER ENFORCEMENT.
A PLAN THAT IS TAILORED TO
ADDRESS ONTARIANS' UNIQUE
ENVIRONMENTAL AND ECONOMIC
CHALLENGES.
AND, SPEAKER, A PLAN THAT
DOES NOT INCLUDE A CARBON
TAX ON WORKING FAMILIES IN
THIS PROVINCE.
SPEAKER, IT'S TIME WE MADE
LIFE AFFORDABLE.
IT'S TIME GOVERNMENT IS PART
OF THE SOLUTION, NOT THE
PROBLEM.
SPEAKER, CAN THE MINISTER
OUTLINE THE BENEFIT OF OUR
MADE-IN-ONTARIO PLAN AND HOW
IT WILL ENSURE WE LEAVE THE
NEXT GENERATION BETTER OFF?

[APPLAUSE]

The Speaker says MINISTER.

Phillips says MR. SPEAKER, OUR
MADE-IN-ONTARIO CLIMATE PLAN
DOES INCLUDE A PLAN FOR
CLIMATE CHANGE.
IT DOES INCLUDE THE ONTARIO
CARBON TRUST WHICH WILL USE
THE BEST MODELS
INTERNATIONALLY TO REDUCE
GREENHOUSE GASES.
IT UNDERSTANDS THE BENEFITS
OF CONSERVATION IN THE AREA
OF NATURAL GAS.
IT TALKS ABOUT CLEANER FUELS
BUT IT ALSO TALKS ABOUT
OTHER THINGS, MR. SPEAKER.
IT TALKS ABOUT CLEANER
WATER.
IT TALKS ABOUT BEING CLEAR
AND TRANSPARENT WHETHER IT'S
ABOUT SEWAGE IN OUR WATER OR
AIR POLLUTION IN OUR AIR.
MR. SPEAKER, IT IS A BROAD
BASED PLAN THAT DEALS WITH
LITTER AND WASTE.
IT DEALS WITH THE BLUE BOX
PROGRAM AND HOW WE MOVE FROM
30 percent DIVERSION TO A HIGHER
LEVEL OF DIVERSION.
MR. SPEAKER, IT'S A
COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
IT'S A PLAN THAT BALANCES
THE ECONOMY AND THE
ENVIRONMENT.

Interjection: HEAR, HEAR!

[APPLAUSE]

The Speaker says THAT CONCLUDES OUR
TIME FOR QUESTION PERIOD TODAY.

Watch: Question Period: Monday, December 3, 2018