Transcript: Finding Silver Linings in This Pandemic | May 21, 2020

Steve sits in a room with white walls, a low slanted ceiling and several framed pictures on the walls including one of George Drew and one of Walter Kronkite. He's slim, clean-shaven, in his fifties, with short curly brown hair. He's wearing a white shirt and a spotted blue tie.

A caption on screen reads "Finding silver linings in this pandemic. @spaikin, @theagenda."

Steve says SLEEPING BETTER, SPENDING MORE TIME WITH FAMILY, NO LOST HOURS STUCK SITTING IN TRAFFIC. WHILE THERE IS MUCH THAT IS BAD ABOUT THIS PANDEMIC, NOT EVERYONE IS EXPERIENCING INCREASED AN8 OUR FORMER LIVES OF TOO MUCH HUSTLE AND BUSTLE HAVE COME TO A HALT. SOME HAVE FOUND THEMSELVES IN A BETTER PLACE THESE PAST COUPLE OF MONTHS. AND WE'VE GOT THREE OF THEM WITH US RIGHT NOW, SO LET'S WELCOME: IN LEEDS, UNITED KINGDOM: NADIA EL-AWADY, A FREELANCE SCIENCE WRITER AND EDITOR...

Nada is in her forties, with long straight chestnut hair. She's wearing a printed sleeveless blouse and a silver choker necklace.

Steve continues AND IN THE PROVINCIAL CAPITAL IN CABBAGETOWN: STEPHANIE PICKERING, A TELEVISION PRODUCER...

Stephanie is in her thirties, with long straight blond hair. She's wearing a patterned black shirt.

Steve continues AND IN NORTH TORONTO: JOHN MAVRIYANNAKIS, A FINANCIAL SERVICES AND CONSULTING EXECUTIVE....

John is in his forties, balding, with a stubble. He's wearing glasses and a blue shirt.

Steve continues IT'S GREAT THAT FINALLY AFTER 9 WEEKS WE MAY BE ABLE TO SHED A BIT OF LIGHT ON SOME POSITIVE STORIES THAT ARE HAPPENING DURING THIS COVID CRISIS. JOHN, LET'S START WITH YOU. WHY ARE THINGS BETTER, DO YOU THINK, FOR YOU RIGHT NOW THAN PERHAPS THEY WERE BEFORE?

The caption changes to "John Mavriyannakis. Financial Services Executive."

John says I THINK FOR ME IT REALLY COMES DOWN TO WORK-LIFE BALANCE AND TIME WITH THE FAMILY. YOU KNOW, BEFORE, IT WAS LITERALLY, YOU KNOW, 6 A.M. TO MOST EVENINGS OUT WITH CLIENTS OR CUSTOMERS TILL 8 TO 10 P.M., REALLY FULL-TIME WORK AND VERY LITTLE TIME FOR FAMILY AND BALANCE. AND NOW IT'S THREE MEALS A DAY WITH THE FAMILY. I WORK OUT EVERY MORNING WITH MY TWO BOYS FOR 45 MINUTES, GO FOR A WALK WITH MY WIFE IN THE AFTERNOONS, AND, YOU KNOW, IT'S ACTUALLY A REAL BALANCE FOR ONCE BETWEEN WORK AND FAMILY AND IT'S WONDERFUL TO SHARE TIME WITH THEM.

Steve says HOW OLD ARE THE KIDS?

John says 12 AND 13. THEY'RE AT THAT AGE WHERE THEY STILL LIKE ME.

Steve says THAT'S WHAT I WAS GOING TO SAY. THEY STILL WANT YOUR COMPANY AT THIS STAGE OF THE GAME.

John says EXACTLY.

Steve says ARE YOU HOME SCHOOLING OR WHAT ARE YOU DOING IN THAT REGARD?

John says WE'RE LUCKY, BOTH OUR BOYS ARE IN PRIVATE SCHOOL WHICH HAVE BEEN INCREDIBLY GOOD IN ENSURING ONGOING AND CONTINUED EDUCATION, SO THEY'RE BASICALLY STILL ON ALMOST A 9 TO 3 FULL DAY EVERY DAY.

Steve says AND ARE YOU STILL WORKING, OR WHAT ARE YOU DOING FOR INCOME?

John says YEAH, SO I'M STILL WORKING, THANKFULLY. MY WIFE, WHO IS THE DENTAL VERTICAL, SHE IS FULLY SHUT DOWN. SO IT'S OBVIOUSLY CHALLENGING, AND IF THIS IS A PROLONGED, YOU KNOW, DOWNTURN, IT WILL BE MORE CHALLENGING, BUT THAT STRESS OF THE FINANCIAL HASN'T HIT US YET, THANKFULLY.

Steve says OKAY. STEPHANIE, LET'S GO TO YOU. HOW HAS YOUR LIFE CHANGED SINCE THE PANDEMIC HIT?

The caption changes to "Stephanie Pickering. Television Producer."

Stephanie says IT'S BEEN SUCH A TREMENDOUS GIFT TO SPEND THE SOLID TIME WITH MY KIDS IN A WAY THAT I WOULDN'T OTHERWISE HAVE HAD ACCESS TO. I TRAVEL A LOT WITH MY WORK. I SPEND A LOT OF TIME IN AN EDIT SUITE, YOU KNOW, CRAFTING SHOWS, WORKING LATE. AND IT'S JUST BEEN AN INCREDIBLE GIFT TO KIND OF LIVE IN THE WONDER OF THESE KIDS. MY CHILDREN ARE 3 AND 5, AND WE'VE BEEN SPENDING A LOT OF TIME IN THE FOREST, WHICH HAS BEEN PRETTY INCREDIBLE, AND JUST TO WATCH THEM LED BY THEIR OWN CURIOSITY AND THEN TO KIND OF FOLLOW THAT UP WITH, YOU KNOW, TEACHING THEM, HAS BEEN REALLY WONDERFUL.

Steve says YOU SAY TIME IN THE FOREST. YOU MEAN SORT OF IN THE WOODS NEAR CABBAGETOWN; IS THAT WHAT YOU MEAN?

Stephanie says YEAH, LIKE IN THE WOODS, I'M ALWAYS SEARCHING FOR PLACES WHERE WE CAN GO AND KIND OF DO LESS... FIRST OF ALL, LET THEM BE LED BY THEIR CURIOSITY, AND THEN TRYING TO CREATE A LESSON AROUND THAT IN WORK, SO SURVIVAL WORK OR MATH WITH PINE CONES AND ALSO SORT OF RESILIENCE AROUND THE WEATHER. IT'S ONLY RECENTLY WARMED UP. SO IT'S BEEN... WE'VE BEEN OUT THERE, YOU KNOW, WITH OUR COATS ON WHEN IT WAS CHILLY AND SO I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF LESSONS WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO LEARN DURING THIS TIME ABOUT RESILIENCE ALSO.

Steve says ARE YOU ABLE TO WORK AT ALL?

Stephanie says I HAVE BEEN DEVELOPING SOME PROJECTS IN THE EVENINGS DOING SOME RESEARCH FOR FUTURE IDEAS I HAVE, BUT MY SHOW THAT I WAS ABOUT TO DO INVOLVED TRAVEL, AND SO THAT SHOW HAS BEEN CANCELLED, AND SO IT WAS REALLY DISAPPOINTING BUT ONE OF THE GREATEST GIFTS HAS BEEN SPENDING TIME WITH MY KIDS AND ALSO SEEING THEM CREATE A BOND TOGETHER BECAUSE THEY WOULDN'T HAVE BEEN TOGETHER. THEY GO TO DIFFERENT SCHOOLS, YOU KNOW? SO THEY'RE SPENDING ONE-ON-ONE TIME. AND THEY DON'T SEEM TO MISS SCHOOL, WHICH I'M A LITTLE BIT BLOWN AWAY BY.

Steve says WHAT ARE YOU DOING FOR INCOME?

Stephanie says MY... I PERSONALLY, THANKFULLY, HAVE BEEN SAVING MONEY. MY HUSBAND IS STILL WORKING, SO THAT'S A TREMENDOUS GIFT. AND SO I KNOW THAT THAT IS A UNIQUE SITUATION THAT I'M IN FOR SURE.

Steve says GOTCHA. NADIA, HOW IS IT GOING OVER THERE IN THE UNITED KINGDOM?

The caption changes to "Nadia El-Awady. Freelance Journalist."

Nadia says IT'S GOING ALL RIGHT. I'VE BEEN QUITE SURPRISED WITH HOW THINGS HAVE GONE FOR THE PAST COUPLE OF MONTHS. I HAVE A BACKGROUND OF ANXIETY AND LOW MOOD. I'VE HAD THAT FOR SEVERAL YEARS NOW. AND BECAUSE I'VE SEEN PEOPLE AROUND ME BECOME MORE AND MORE ANXIOUS, I'VE BEEN SURPRISED TO SEE THAT I'M ACTUALLY MANAGING MY ANXIETY PROBABLY MUCH BETTER THAN I... THAN I HAVE IN PREVIOUS YEARS AT LEAST. AND I THINK PART OF THAT IS BECAUSE LIFE IS SO MUCH SIMPLER, AND THERE ARE VERY CLEAR RULES. ALL I NEED TO DO IS FOCUS ON WASHING MY HANDS, STAYING AT HOME, NOT TOUCHING MY FACE, WHICH I'M NOT ALWAYS SUCCESSFUL AT. I DON'T HAVE TO MAKE ANY REAL COMPLEX DECISIONS ABOUT LIFE RIGHT NOW BECAUSE I SIMPLY CAN'T BECAUSE THERE'S NO WAY TO PLAN FOR THINGS, AND SO IT'S MADE THE SIMPLICITY OF LIFE HAS MADE THE DEALING WITH ANXIETY MUCH EASIER FOR ME. I THINK THAT'S WHY FOR ME THINGS HAVE BEEN QUITE... HAVE BEEN A LITTLE BIT BETTER THAN THEY HAVE BEEN.

Steve says UNDERSTOOD. DO YOU LIVE WITH ANYONE?

Nadia says I DO. I LIVE WITH MY HUSBAND. THAT'S ANOTHER THING. I THINK WE'RE BOTH IN A PRIVILEGED POSITION. WE'RE AT THAT STAGE IN LIFE, WE'RE IN OUR 50s, AND I WORK. HE TOOK EARLY RETIREMENT. AND SO OUR FINANCIAL SITUATION IS STABLE. IT MIGHT BECOME A LITTLE BIT MORE WORRISOME IF THIS SITUATION PROLONGS, BUT RIGHT NOW IT'S STABLE. AND SO WE'RE OKAY. AND MY KIDS ALL LIVE IN EGYPT AND THEY'RE OLDER. MY YOUNGEST IS 20. AND SO I DON'T CHILDREN, YOUNG CHILDREN LIVING WITH ME IN THE HOUSE, WHICH I KNOW HAS BEEN STRESSING A LOT OF PEOPLE. SO WE'RE IN QUITE A PRIVILEGED POSITION. THE OTHER THING IS THAT WE ALREADY HAVE A ROUTINE. SO I WORK FROM HOME. MY HUSBAND HAS BEEN AT HOME FOR THE PAST YEAR BECAUSE HE HAS RETIRED. SO WE ALREADY HAVE THESE ROUTINES WITH BOTH OF US BEING IN THE HOUSE TOGETHER. IT'S ALL STRUCTURED. WE KNOW HOW TO DEAL WITH EACH OTHER AND WITH OUR LITTLE... YOU KNOW, THE LITTLE THINGS THAT WE NEED TO DO DURING THE DAY. SO I THINK WE'RE IN A PRIVILEGED POSITION COMPARED TO OTHER PEOPLE, BUT IT'S MADE LIFE EASY OR SIMPLER.

Steve says WELL, I WAS GOING TO SAY, YOU KNOW, YOU REALLY FIND OUT HOW MUCH YOU LIKE YOUR SPOUSE ONCE THE KIDS HAVE ALL MOVED OUT AND HE OR SHE HAS RETIRED. WHAT HAVE YOU LEARNED ABOUT THAT?

Nadia says WELL, I ALREADY HAD THAT PROCESS. SO WHEN MY HUSBAND TOOK EARLY RETIREMENT, WE WENT THROUGH THAT ONE YEAR OF LIVING IN THE HOUSE TOGETHER ALL THE TIME. AND SO, NO, WE CAN DO IT. WE DO ACTUALLY ENJOY EACH OTHER'S COMPANY. WE ALSO KNOW HOW TO GIVE EACH OTHER SOME SPACE. WE LIVE IN A SMALL HOUSE, NOT A LARGE ONE. BUT WE KNOW HOW TO MOVE AROUND SO THAT WE HAVE ENOUGH SPACE TO THINK OR ENOUGH SPACE TO WATCH OUR PROGRAMS OR ENOUGH SPACE TO WORK, IN MY CASE, AND THEN AT THE SAME TIME WE HAVE OUR TOGETHER TIME IN THE EVENING.

Steve says GOTCHA. JOHN, LET ME BRING YOU BACK IN AND ASK YOU, YOU KNOW, WHETHER YOU THINK THE... THE THINGS THAT YOU HAVE LEARNED ABOUT HOW MUCH BETTER YOU LIKE SOME PARTS OF YOUR LIFE RIGHT NOW, WHETHER YOU THINK YOU WILL BE ABLE TO MAINTAIN THAT ONCE THE PANDEMIC IS SORT OF IN THE REAR VIEW MIRROR AND LIFE, YOU KNOW... I WON'T SAY GOES BACK TO NORMAL BUT ACHIEVES THE KIND OF A NEW NORMAL, WHATEVER THAT'S GOING TO BE.

The caption changes to "John Mavriyannakis. Financial Services Executive."

John says YEAH, I THINK... IT'S FUNNY YOU ASK THAT. THAT'S WHAT I'VE BEEN SEEING A LOT ABOUT RECENTLY, WHICH IS SORT OF A REGRESSION BACK TO THE MEAN, HOW THINGS WERE BEFORE. AND FOR ME, I THINK THE ABILITY TO SORT OF MAINTAIN THAT CONNECTION WITH, YOU KNOW, MY FAMILY AND THE BOYS, AND I THINK THIS IS REALLY ABOUT RESILIENCE AND, YOU KNOW, I THINK IF THERE WERE THREE THINGS THAT I'VE LEARNED OUT OF THIS IT'S THE ABILITY TO BE FLEXIBLE, OPTIMISTIC, AND EMPATHETIC. AND IF I CAN CARRY THOSE THREE THINGS FORWARD AND APPLY THEM TO WHATEVER IT IS GOING FORWARD, I THINK IT'S HIGHLY VALUABLE.

Steve says COULD YOU GIVE US AN EXAMPLE OF HOW YOUR HEIGHTENED EMPATHY MAY HAVE MANIFESTED ITSELF NOW IN A WAY THAT IT MIGHT NOT HAVE BEFORE THE PANDEMIC HIT?

John says YEAH. YOU GET... YOU KNOW, WHAT THIS HAS REALLY DONE IS SHOWING YOU PEOPLE'S LIVES BEYOND WHAT THEIR WORK PERSONA IS. YOU'VE REALLY GOTTEN AHEAD AND SEEN BEHIND THE CURTAIN. SO YOU REALIZE WHAT EVERYONE IS GOING THROUGH, THE CHALLENGES AT HOME, BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, REALLY, THE KIMONO IS SORT OF OPEN AND THIS HAS REALLY DEMOCRATIZED EVERYONE. SO THERE ISN'T AN AGENDA. THERE ISN'T A PERSON'S PERSONA. WE'RE ALL AT THE SAME LEVEL. IT'S ALLOWED EVERYONE TO SEE THAT EVERYONE HAS A SERIES OF CHALLENGES, NO ONE'S LIFE IS PERFECT, AND WE ALL GO THROUGH UPS AND DOWNS AND NOW WE'RE GOING THROUGH THEM ALL TOGETHER.

Steve says HOW ARE YOU GOING TO HANDLE IT, JOHN, IF AND WHEN YOUR CAREER SORT OF GOES BACK TO THE WAY IT WAS AND YOU HAVE CLIENTS WHO WANT TO SEE YOU AT 8:00 AT NIGHT AGAIN?

John says YEAH. THEREIN LIES THE CHALLENGE. I THINK IT BECOMES A, YOU KNOW, MUCH MORE CONTROL OVER TIME AND LEARNING THE ABILITY TO SAY NO AND FOCUS ON FAMILY AS WELL AND REALLY GET MUCH MORE STRUCTURED ON CARVING OUT TIME. SO IT'S NOT TO SAY THAT, YOU KNOW, I WILL BE HOME EVERY EVENING, BUT IT'S TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S PRETTY CLEAR THAT WE GO AHEAD AND SAY, YOU KNOW, THREE NIGHTS A WEEK I'LL BE HOME AND THREE NIGHTS A WEEK I'LL BE OUT.

Steve says STEPHANIE, LET ME EXPLORE THAT WITH YOU. WHAT ABOUT YOUR LIFE RIGHT NOW DO YOU THINK YOU'LL BE ABLE TO MAINTAIN IF AND WHEN A NEW NORMAL IS ESTABLISHED?

Stephanie says I THINK FOR ME IT HAS BEEN POWERFUL BECAUSE I HAVE THOUGHT A LOT ABOUT A CAREER TRANSITION INTO BECOMING A MONTESSORI TEACHER. AND SO PART OF THIS TIME HAS BEEN LIKE, OH, YEAH, YOU WANT TO SPEND SOLID TIME WITH KIDS? ARE YOU SURE YOU WANT TO DO THAT? SO IT'S BEEN A HUGE GIFT IN THAT IT'S GIVEN ME THIS SOLID TIME WITH THE KIDS WHERE, NO, I COULD SEE MYSELF DOING THIS. I COULD SEE MYSELF HAVING THIS TRANSITION. I'VE BEEN SORT OF SITTING ON THIS FENCE WONDERING IF I SHOULD JUMP OFF OR NOT. IT'S NOT TO SAY THAT I WON'T BLEND THOSE TWO WORLDS, MY PAST EXPERIENCE AND MY FUTURE ONE. BUT FOR ME IT'S SORT OF BEEN LIKE, NO, I THINK I COULD DO THIS. I HATE THE IDEA OF NOT HAVING A 3 AND 5-YEAR-OLD IN MY LIFE. THEY ARE SO FULL OF CURIOSITY, AND THIS STYLE OF TEACHING, WHERE I AM CREATING LESSONS BASED ON FOLLOWING THEIR CURIOSITY? LIKE, IF I BRING MY SON A PAGE OF MATH, HE FALLS ON THE FLOOR AND DOESN'T WANT TO DO IT. IF I TAKE HIM OUT INTO THE FOREST AND I TAKE TEN PINE CONES AND SAY IF I TAKE FIVE PINE CONES AWAY, HOW MANY ARE LEFT? HE'S ALL ABOUT IT. SO THERE'S SOMETHING ABOUT, IT'S BEEN A HUGE GIFT FOR ME TO IMAGINE MYSELF IN ANOTHER LIFE AND BE ABLE TO ACTUALLY BE TOSSED INTO IT.

Steve says THAT'S SUCH AN INTERESTING REACTION BECAUSE I HAVE TO TELL YOU, MOST PARENTS THAT I TALK TO WHO ARE NOW SPENDING 24-7 WITH THEIR KIDS, BECAUSE THERE'S NO CHILD CARE OR THERE'S NO NANNY OR THERE'S NO SCHOOL OR WHATEVER, YOU KNOW, THEY REALLY CAN'T WAIT FOR THINGS TO GET BACK TO NORMAL SO THEY CAN SPEND LESS TIME WITH THEIR CHILDREN. YOU'VE HAD THE EXACT OPPOSITE REACTION. YOU DO KNOW HOW UNUSUAL YOUR CIRCUMSTANCES ARE, EH?

Stephanie says I DO RECOGNIZE THAT. AND, YOU KNOW, I THINK PART OF THAT... I DIDN'T START HERE. I HAD A HUGE PANIC IN MY THROAT THE DAY THAT THE SCHOOLS WERE CANCELLED. I FELT THIS FEELING LIKE I COULDN'T BREATHE, AND I WAS IN THE GROCERY STORE BEFORE THE ANNOUNCEMENT, AND PEOPLE STARTED TO STREAM INTO THE GROCERY STORE, AND IT WAS LIKE, WHAT ON EARTH? AND I GOT INTO MY CAR AND I STARTED TO THINK, WAIT A SECOND. STEPHANIE, YOU WERE ON LOCKDOWN AS A CHILD. YOU GREW UP ON VANCOUVER ISLAND, YOU WERE ON YOUR GRANDMA'S FARM AND YOU LIVED IN THE FOREST. YOU ARE GOING TO BE FINE. AND SO I'VE TRIED TO CHALLENGE THAT EXPERIENCE AS A CHILD AND WHAT WAS MEANINGFUL FOR ME AND TRY TO CREATE THAT FOR KIDS. AND I RECOGNIZE THAT I'M PRIVILEGED TO BE ABLE TO STAY HOME WITH MY KIDS, BUT I DO ENCOURAGE EVERYBODY TO GET OUT INTO THE FOREST AND THINK ABOUT WAYS TO LEARN IN AN ENVIRONMENT THAT GIVES BACK SO MUCH AND CREATES LIKE A FUNDAMENTAL, LIKE, LOVE OF LEARNING. SO, YEAH, I THINK THAT EVEN THOUGH I'M IN A DIFFERENT SITUATION OF REALIZING I THINK THAT EVERYONE CAN FIND A WAY TO FIND JOY OUTSIDE AND MAKE IT A LEARNING ENVIRONMENT SO THAT THEY'RE NOT STRUGGLING WITH TRYING TO TEACH THEIR KIDS STUFF ON PAPER THAT THEY'RE LIKE, "MOM, YOU'RE A TERRIBLE TEACHER. GO PLAY IN THE FOREST. AND YOU'LL BE SURPRISED BY HOW MUCH JOY LEARNING WILL HAVE, YOU KNOW?

Steve says NADIA, LET ME FIND OUT FROM YOU. YOU MENTIONED YOUR KIDS ARE IN EGYPT. HOW TOUGH IS THAT FOR YOU RIGHT NOW HAVING THEM SO FAR AWAY?

Nadia says IT'S TOUGH. IT'S TOUGH. BUT WE'RE ABLE TO KEEP IN TOUCH WITH EACH OTHER, OF COURSE, JUST THE WAY EVERYBODY ELSE IS, OVER SOCIAL MEDIA AND HAVING VIDEO CHATS AND THINGS LIKE THAT. WHAT MAKES IT MOST DIFFICULT IS THAT I DON'T KNOW WHEN I'LL BE ABLE TO SEE THEM NEXT BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW WHEN AIR TRAVEL WILL START PICKING UP AGAIN. I DON'T KNOW WHEN... THEY WON'T HAVE QUARANTINES ANYMORE, WHETHER ON THAT END OVER THERE OR OVER HERE. AND SO NOT BEING ABLE TO... I DON'T LIKE PLANNING, SO THAT'S NOT THE PROBLEM. IT'S MORE OF JUST NOT KNOWING WHEN I'LL SEE THE KIDS NEXT. AND SO THAT'S BEEN DIFFICULT. AND THAT'S NOT JUST MY SITUATION, BECAUSE I'M AN IMMIGRANT LIVING IN THE UNITED KINGDOM, SO I SEE THAT SITUATION AMONG MANY IMMIGRANT COMMUNITIES. SO MANY PEOPLE ARE WORRYING ABOUT WHEN THEY'LL BE ABLE TO SEE THEIR FAMILIES NEXT.

Steve says AND YOU HAD BEEN, IF I HAVE THIS RIGHT, ACCUSTOMED TO GOING TO EGYPT AT LEAST ONCE A YEAR AND THEM COMING TO ENGLAND AT LEAST A YEAR...

Nadia says OH, MUCH MORE THAN THAT.

Steve says MORE THAN THAT.

Nadia says MUCH MORE THAN THAT. I WAS GOING AT LEAST THREE OR FOUR TIMES A YEAR. THEY WOULD COME OVER HERE ONCE OR TWICE A YEAR SO I WAS GOING BACK AND FORTH, BACK AND FORTH, BACK AND FORTH. RIGHT NOW I DON'T KNOW WHEN I'LL BE GOING NEXT. STILL, IT'S ALL RIGHT. IT'S THE SAME SITUATION FOR EVERYBODY ALL OVER THE WORLD, AND FOR ALL OF US... I MEAN, I THINK THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT'S HELPED ME WITH ANXIETY, IS THAT WE'RE ALL NOW IN THE SAME POSITION. AND FOR ME, IT MAKES IT EASIER TO BREATHE. IT MAKES IT EASIER TO PROCESS IT ALL. I DON'T FEEL LIKE I'M ALONE. I HAVE ALL THESE COMPLEX PROBLEMS THAT I HAVE TO DEAL WITH ALL ON MY OWN. EVERYBODY IS IN THE SAME POSITION, IN THE SAME BASKET. AND SO IT'S FINE. IT'S FINE. AS LONG AS I KNOW THAT THE KIDS ARE FINE, I'M OKAY.

Steve says AND THEY ARE FINE?

Nadia says THEY ARE FINE, YES.

Steve says GOOD TO KNOW.

Nadia says THEY'RE STAYING AT HOME.

The caption changes to "Producer: Sandra Gionas, @sandragionas."

Steve says GOOD STUFF. I WANT TO THANK THE THREE OF YOU FOR LETTING US PEER INTO YOUR LIVES A LITTLE BIT HERE ON TVO, AND THANK YOU FOR SHARING SOME STORIES FROM YOUR LIVES THAT I SUSPECT WE NEED TO HEAR MORE ABOUT THESE DAYS AS WE'RE IN WEEK 9 OF THIS COVID CRISIS. NADIA, JOHN, STEPHANIE, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR JOINING US AND BE WELL TO ALL OF YOU.

Stephanie says THANK YOU, STEVE.

John says THANK YOU.

Nadia says TAKE CARE.

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