Transcript: Ontario Hubs: Waterloo Region's Roundabouts | Nov 15, 2019

Jeyan sits in the studio. He's is in his thirties, with short black hair and a trimmed beard. He's wearing a gray suit, white shirt, and burgundy tie.

A caption on screen reads "Ontario Hubs: Waterloo region's roundabouts. Jeyan Jeganathan. @JeyanTVO. @theagenda."

Jeyan says FEW THINGS GET
ONTARIANS GOING THE WAY WEATHER
AND TRAFFIC DO.
MARY BAXTER COVERS THE
SOUTHWESTERN PART OF THIS
PROVINCE FOR OUR ONTARIO HUBS.
AND SHE JOINS US NOW ON THE LINE
FROM OUR STUDIO AT WESTERN
UNIVERSITY IN LONDON ON WHY
EVERYONE IS TALKING ABOUT
ROUNDABOUTS.

Mary is in her forties, with shoulder-length wavy brown hair. She's wearing a black blazer over a gray t-shirt.

Jeyan continues WELCOME TO THE SHOW.

Mary says HI, JEYAN.
IT'S GOOD TO BE HERE.

Jeyan says NOW, YOU WERE
TALKING ABOUT ROUNDABOUTS, SOME
PEOPLE KNOW THEM AS TRAFFIC
CIRCLES.
THEY'RE NOT YOUR FRIENDLY
NEIGHBOURHOOD TRAFFIC CALMER,
ARE THEY?

The caption changes to "Mary Baxter. Southwestern Ontario Hub Journalist."
Then, it changes again to "Why traffic circles?"

Mary says WELL, ACTUALLY, THEY CAN BE.
BUT MORE OFTEN, ROUNDABOUTS, YOU
THINK ABOUT THEM IN TERMS OF...
THEY WOULD BE IN INTERSECTIONS
THAT TRAFFIC LIGHTS WOULD
NORMALLY GO INTO, SO THEY
ACTUALLY MIGHT HANDLE A LARGE
VOLUME OF TRAFFIC.

A colour picture shows cars driving into and out of a roundabout on a snowy, overcast winter day.

Jeyan says AND IN YOUR ARTICLE
ON TVO.org, IT'S LOOKING AT
THE WATERLOO REGION.
THERE'S 40 OF THEM THERE.
WHAT'S THE STRATEGY BEHIND THAT?

A screenshot from the TVO website pops up showing an article. It reads "tvo.org/current-affairs. Southwestern. The ins and outs of Ontario roundabouts. By Mary Baxter."

Mary says WELL, ACTUALLY, THE FIRST
ROUNDABOUT IN WATERLOO REGION
WAS INTRODUCED IN 2004.
I THINK IT WAS THE FIRST
ROUNDABOUT IN ONTARIO.
AND THERE'S A COUPLE OF REASONS
WHY WATERLOO REGION HAS EMBRACED
THEM.
BUT BEFORE I GET TO THAT, I JUST
WANT TO MENTION THAT IN WATERLOO
REGION THERE ARE 3,000
INTERSECTIONS.
SO WHEN WE'RE TALKING 40
ROUNDABOUTS, THAT'S ACTUALLY NOT
A LOT.

The caption changes to "Mary Baxter, @MaryBWord."

Mary continues BUT SOME OF THEM ARE IN REALLY
HIGH-PROFILE AREAS, SO THERE'S A
LOT OF AWARENESS ABOUT THEM.
AND THEY INTRODUCED THEM, ONE
REASON IS BECAUSE ROUNDABOUTS
KEEP CARS MOVING.
THERE'S NO TRAFFIC LIGHT THERE,
SO CARS AREN'T GOING TO STOP.
AND BECAUSE OF THAT, IT MEANS
THAT THE ROADS THAT ARE ON
ROUNDABOUTS CAN ACTUALLY HANDLE
LARGER TRAFFIC VOLUMES WITHOUT
HAVING TO GO UP IN THE NUMBER OF
LANES.
SO THEY CAN BE ECONOMICAL.
EVEN THOUGH THEY COST A BIT MORE
TO INTRODUCE BECAUSE THEY NEED
MORE LAND, SO THEY OFTEN COST A
LITTLE BIT MORE THAN REGULAR
TRAFFIC LIGHTS, BUT THEY CAN
MEAN LONGER-TERM SAVINGS.
AND THEN THE OTHER BIG REASON IS
THAT THEY'RE CONSIDERED TO BE
SAFER.
THEY TEND TO REDUCE THE NUMBER
OF SEVERE ACCIDENTS.
SO I'M THINKING OF THINGS LIKE
T-BONES OR LEFT-HAND TURNS.
THEY'RE CONSIDERED TO BE QUITE
HIGH RISK.
YOU DON'T DO LEFT-HAND TURNS ON
A ROUNDABOUT.

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Jeyan says I'M CURIOUS, YOU'RE
TALKING ABOUT SAFETY.
WHAT HAPPENS WHEN THERE'S MIXED
TRAFFIC USE, I'M TALKING CARS,
BIKES, PEDESTRIANS, BUSES, LARGE
TRUCKS?
WHAT HAPPENS WHEN ALL OF THOSE
ARE AT PLAY?

The caption changes to "Benefits and drawbacks."

Mary says THAT IS... THAT IS ONE OF THE
ISSUES WITH ROUNDABOUTS.
EVEN WITH PEOPLE WHO SUPPORT
THEM, THEY POINT OUT THAT
THEY'RE SOMETIMES NOT THE BEST
TO HAVE DIFFERENT MODES OF
TRAVEL ON THEM.
AND THERE'S A PSYCHOLOGICAL
REASON TO THAT.
IF YOU THINK ABOUT A ROUNDABOUT,
AGAIN, PEOPLE ARE DRIVING
THROUGH THEM, THEY'RE EXPECTING
TO KEEP MOVING.
IF ALL OF A SUDDEN YOU HAVE TO
STOP BECAUSE THERE'S A
PEDESTRIAN CROSSING, IT JUST
KIND OF... IT'S HARD TO COMPUTE,
IF YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN.
AND IN WATERLOO REGION, THIS HAS
BEEN A CONCERN WITH SOME OF THE
ROUNDABOUTS THAT HAVE BEEN
INTRODUCED.
ONE THAT WAS INTRODUCED IN FRONT
OF A SCHOOL, THE YEAR THAT IT
WAS INTRODUCED, THEY ACTUALLY
HAD ONE OF THE STUDENTS WAS HIT
BY A BUS AND HER LEG WAS BROKEN.
SO, YEAH, THERE'S SOME CONCERNS
ABOUT THAT.

Jeyan says NOW, I'VE TRAVELLED
ACROSS ONTARIO OVER THE LAST
COUPLE YEARS IN OUR TVO VEHICLE
AND THERE ARE OCCASIONS WHERE
WE'LL COME ACROSS A ROUNDABOUT,
AND I WILL ADMIT THERE ARE SOME
TIMES WHERE IT'S KIND OF
ANXIETY-INDUCING BECAUSE YOU
DON'T KNOW WHERE TO GO, WHAT'S
GOING TO HAPPEN.
I IMAGINE THERE IS A LITTLE BIT
OF THAT WHEN IT COMES TO OTHER
DRIVERS.
IS THERE ANY KIND OF TRAINING OR
ANY KIND OF RULES FOR PEOPLE
WHEN THEY COME ACROSS A
ROUNDABOUT THAT THEY SHOULD KNOW
ABOUT?

Mary says THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT
HAPPENS IN THE COMMUNITIES AND
THE GOVERNMENTS THAT EMBRACE
ROUNDABOUTS, IS THAT THEY TRY TO
INTRODUCE AN EDUCATIONAL
CAMPAIGN.
SO, FOR INSTANCE, IN WATERLOO
REGION, YOU CAN GO TO THEIR
WEBSITE AND FIND OUT INFORMATION
ON HOW TO DRIVE ON A ROUNDABOUT.
BUT, YOU KNOW, THE OTHER THING
IS THAT OFTEN YOU'LL FIND JUST
BEFORE YOU ENTER A ROUNDABOUT,
YOU'LL SEE A SIGN THAT TELLS
YOU, OKAY, THESE ARE THE THINGS
THAT YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO DO.
SO IF YOU'RE EXPERIENCING SOME
ANXIETY AND YOU'RE NOT QUITE
SURE, HAVE A LOOK AT THAT SIGN
BEFORE YOU START HEADING IN.

Jeyan says ONE LAST QUESTION
FOR YOU, MARY BAXTER.
I WANT TO KNOW: DO YOU PREFER
THE ROUNDABOUT OR DO YOU PREFER
THE TRADITIONAL STOP SIGN WITH
TRAFFIC LIGHTS?

Mary says YOU KNOW, I'M ROUNDABOUT
FRIENDLY.
SOUTHWESTERN ONTARIO AND
NORTHERN ONTARIO, THERE'S A LOT
OF ROUNDABOUTS HERE.
I LIVED OVERSEAS AND GOT USED TO
DRIVING ROUNDABOUTS THERE.
SO FOR ME, IT MAKES NO
DIFFERENCE.
I ACTUALLY KIND OF LIKE THEM.

The caption changes to "Producer: Carla Lucchetta, @carrletta."

Jeyan says AWESOME.
THANK YOU SO MUCH, MARY BAXTER.
THAT'S MARY BAXTER, OUR ONTARIO
HUB JOURNALIST FOR SOUTHWESTERN
ONTARIO.
ALWAYS A PLEASURE TO HAVE YOU ON
THE SHOW.

The caption changes to "Subscribe to The Agenda Podcast: tvo.org/theagenda."

Mary says GOOD TO CHAT WITH YOU, JEYAN.

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