Transcript: John Tory: At Toronto's Helm | Oct 24, 2019

Steve sits in the studio. He's slim, clean-shaven, in his fifties, with short curly brown hair. He's wearing a gray suit, white shirt, and gray tie.

A caption on screen reads "At Toronto's helm. @spaikin, @theagenda."

Steve says IT'S NEARLY FIVE YEARS
TO THE DAY SINCE TORONTO ELECTED
JOHN TORY RATHER THAN DOUG FORD
TO SERVE AS MAYOR OF ONTARIO'S
CAPITAL CITY.
A LOT HAS OBVIOUSLY CHANGED IN
THE INTERVENING YEARS.
MOST RECENTLY, THAT INCLUDED A
MULTI-BILLION DOLLARS DOLLAR TRANSIT
DEAL WITH THE PROVINCE, LED BY
DOUG FORD, THAT INCLUDES THE
MUCH-DEBATED SCARBOROUGH SUBWAY
AND DOWNTOWN RELIEF LINE.
WITH US NOW ON THAT AND SOME
OTHER ASPECTS OF HIS TENURE:
JOHN TORY, 65th MAYOR OF THE
CITY OF TORONTO.

Tory is in his sixties, clean-shaven, with short, side-parted gray hair. He's wearing a gray suit, white shirt and burgundy tie.

Steve continues YOUR WORSHIP, IT'S ALWAYS A
PLEASURE TO HAVE YOU IN THAT
CHAIR.

Tory says THANK YOU, STEVE.

Steve says IN TERMS OF WHAT'S
BEST FOR ONTARIO'S CAPITAL CITY,
WHAT DID YOU THINK OF THE
FEDERAL ELECTION RESULTS?

The caption changes to "John Tory. Mayor of Toronto."
Then, it changes again to "Tidings from Ottawa."

Tory says WELL, I THINK THE TRUDEAU
GOVERNMENT, IN ITS FIRST TERM,
WAS A GOOD PARTNER FOR TORONTO.
YOU KNOW, PEOPLE HAD ASKED ME
THIS QUESTION THAT JOURNALISTS
ALWAYS ASK, WHICH IS HOW DID
THEY DO ON KEEPING THEIR
PROMISES?
I SAID, ACTUALLY, QUITE WELL.
WHEN IT CAME TO THEM SAYING THEY
WERE GOING TO GIVE US MONEY FOR
TRANSIT AND DEVELOP A NATIONAL
HOUSING STRATEGY WHICH THEY SAID
THEY WOULD DO BEFORE THE LAST
ELECTION IN 2015, THEY ACTUALLY
PROCEEDED TO DO THOSE THINGS.
SO I FELT THAT THEY GOT CITIES,
NOT JUST TORONTO, BUT THEY GOT
CITIES.
AND SO IN THAT SENSE, I WOULD
HAVE SAID, WELL, IF THOSE ARE
PEOPLE THAT YOU KNOW AND YOU
KNOW THEY GET CITIES AND YOU
HAVE EVERY INDICATION FROM THEIR
CAMPAIGN COMMITMENTS THAT
THEY'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO GET
CITIES AND PROVIDE THE KIND OF
BUILDING BLOCKS AND SUPPORT THAT
WE NEED TO, YOU KNOW, KEEP
CANADA'S ECONOMIC ENGINE GOING,
IT WASN'T A BAD RESULT.
IT'S A MINORITY GOVERNMENT, SO
IN THAT SENSE, IN A WAY I EVEN
HOLD OUT GREATER HOPE THAT IF
THEY'RE NOT AS RESPONSIVE ON
SOME OF THESE PROMISES THEY MADE
AS THEY MIGHT HAVE SEEN DURING
THE ELECTION, WE CAN USE OTHERS
TO PUSH THEM.
SO I THINK IT'S FINE, YOU KNOW,
AND NOW WE'VE GOT TO GO FORWARD
AND GET THE STUFF DONE PEOPLE
WANT US TO GET DONE.

Steve says I WANT TO GO OFF THE
PATH ON A MOMENT FOR YOU.
YOU'RE 65 YEARS OLD.
YOU'RE THE 65TH MAYOR.
YOU'VE BEEN A CONSERVATIVE FOR
86 YEARS.

Tory says CORRECTION.
I BELONG TO NO POLITICAL PARTY.

Steve says YOU DON'T CARRY A
PARTY CARD.

Tory says I DO NOT.

Steve says I UNDERSTAND.

Tory says I WAS AN ACTIVE PROGRESSIVE
CONSERVATIVE...

Steve says YOU WERE THE LEADER
OF THE ONTARIO PC PARTY, YOU
WERE THE PRINCIPAL SECRETARY TO
A FORMER CONSERVATIVE PREMIER.
ANYWAY...
YOU I THINK WOULD HAVE SOME
INSIGHT INTO WHY THE CURRENT
INCARNATION OF THE CONSERVATIVE
PARTY OF CANADA GOT SHUT OUT IN
THE 416 AND BARELY MADE A DENT
IN THE 905.
WHAT DO YOU COME UP WITH?

The caption changes to "John Tory, @JohnTory."

Tory says I COME UP WITH A COUPLE OF
THINGS AND PROBABLY IN THIS
ORDER, FRANKLY.
A LOT OF STUFF THEY LEFT OUT ON
KIND OF ISSUES LIKE SOCIAL
CONSERVATISM AND THE ENVIRONMENT
HURT THEM.
I THINK A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO LIVE
IN SOUTHERN ONTARIO, AND MANY
OTHER PARTS OF THE COUNTRY TOO,
I WOULD SAY, ACTUALLY DON'T WANT
TO SEE SOCIAL CONSERVATIVE
ISSUES.
THAT'S NOT EVERYBODY, BUT MOST
PEOPLE DON'T WANT TO SEE THAT
SORT OF DOMINATE THE POLITICAL
DISCOURSE.
THEY WANT TO SEE US ADDRESSING
HOUSING AND CRIME AND SO FORTH.
ON CLIMATE CHANGE THE SAME
THING.
WE CAN HAVE A LOT OF DEBATES
ABOUT HOW WE GO ABOUT SOLVING
THE PROBLEM BUT I DON'T THINK
THERE'S TOO MANY PEOPLE DOUBT
THAT WE HAVE ONE AND SEEM TO BE
ADDRESSING IT.
THERE SEEMS TO BE DOUBT ON BOTH
OF THOSE ACCOUNTS ON HOW MUCH
TIME SHOULD BE SPENT ADDRESSING
SOCIAL CONSERVATIVE ISSUES AND
NOT ADDRESSING CLIMATE CHANGE.
THE SECOND THING IS I'M NOT SURE
THE CONSERVATIVE PARTY LOOKED
LIKE IT GOT CITIES, TO USE THE
EXPRESSION THAT I USED A FEW
MINUTES AGO IN REGARD TO THE
LIBERAL PARTY.
AND THAT SIMPLY SPEAKS TO HOW
MUCH TIME DO YOU SPEND IN YOUR
PLATFORM TALKING ABOUT
AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND I
RECOGNIZE IN PARTS OF RURAL
CANADA, ALTHOUGH IN MANY SMALLER
TOWNS ACROSS ONTARIO THEY'RE
WATCHING HERE TONIGHT, THEY HAVE
A PROBLEM WITH AFFORDABLE
HOUSING TOO.
IT'S ON A DIFFERENT SCALE.
BUT WHEN YOU DON'T TALK ABOUT
THAT KIND OF THING, PEOPLE WHO
LIVE IN CITIES THINK MAYBE YOU
DON'T GET IT OR YOU DON'T
REALIZE IT'S A PROBLEM.
THE SAME TO SOME EXTENT WITH
TRANSIT.
IF YOU ASK ME THAT QUESTION,
WHICH IS WHY DIDN'T THEY CONNECT
WITH PEOPLE, I WOULD SAY THAT'S
A BIG PART... MAYBE NOT ALL OF
THE ANSWER... BUT THAT'S A BIG
PART OF IT.

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Steve says YOU MENTIONED
TRANSIT AND LET'S GO THERE RIGHT NOW.
I'M JUST GOING TO FOR THE
PURPOSES OF OUR CONVERSATION
OVERSIMPLIFY THE DEAL YOU JUST
MADE WITH THE PROVINCIAL
GOVERNMENT WHICH ESSENTIALLY
GIVES THE PROVINCE CONTROL OF
DESIGNING, BUILDING, AND RUNNING
THE ONTARIO LINE.

A slate appears on screen, with the title "Ontario Line."

A map of Toronto appears showing the tunneled and the elevated parts of the line in red and blue.

Steve reads data from the slate and says
IT SORT OF STARTS AT THE ONTARIO
SCIENCE CENTRE IN KIND OF
MIDTOWN, THE EASTERN PART OF
MIDTOWN TORONTO, COMING DOWN
THROUGH FLEMINGTON PARK AND
THORNCLIFFE PARK, GOING SOUTH
RIGHT INTO DOWNTOWN AND ACROSS
WEST TOWARDS EXHIBITION PLACE
AND ONTARIO PLACE.
IN EXCHANGE, YOU GET TO KEEP
OWNERSHIP OF THE SUBWAY SYSTEM,
WHICH WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS
IMPORTANT TO YOU.
TELL US WHY YOU BELIEVE THAT'S A
GOOD DEAL.

The caption changes to "I just can't get no relief (line.)"

Tory says WELL, OF COURSE, I'LL GO
BEYOND YOUR ATTEMPT TO SAVE TIME
BY OVERSIMPLIFYING,
RESPECTFULLY, I'D SAY.
FIRST OF ALL, I THINK IT WAS
REALLY IMPORTANT TO THE CITY,
AND I BELIEVE IT WAS SOMETHING
THAT WAS A JUSTIFIABLE POSITION
FOR US TO TAKE, THAT IT WAS MUCH
BETTER FOR US TO MAINTAIN
CONTROL OF OUR OWN SUBWAY.
WE BUILT IT, LARGELY PAID WITH
IT WITH A LOT OF CITY OF TORONTO
TAXPAYER MONEY.
MORE IMPORTANTLY THAN THAT, WE
WERE OPERATING IT AS AN
INTEGRATED SYSTEM WITH THE BUSES
AND THE STREETCARS.
IF YOU HAVE TWO DIFFERENT OWNERS
TRYING TO OPERATE AN INTEGRATED
SYSTEM, THAT'S NOT GOING TO BE
GOOD AS HAVING ONE OWNER.
I THINK THAT WAS AN IMPORTANT
POINT.
WHEN I SAID I WAS GOING TO MAKE
MORE COMPLEX WHAT YOU
SIMPLIFIED, IT'S SIMPLY TO SAY
THIS: IN ADDITION TO THEM
GETTING TO BUILD AND OWN...
WE'RE GOING TO OPERATE THE
ONTARIO LINE, WHICH IS VERY
IMPORTANT TOO, THAT WE SHOULD
OPERATE ALL OF THESE NEW LINES
THAT THEY OWN BECAUSE WE CAN
OPERATE IT AS AN INTEGRATED
SYSTEM.
THEY'RE PAYING FOR IT.
AND SO IN THAT SENSE, THEY'RE
MAKING SIGNIFICANT INVESTMENTS
THAT WILL THEN FREE UP MONEY
THAT WILL ALLOW US TO ADDRESS
SOMETHING WE HAVEN'T FOR
DECADES, ADDRESSED PROPERLY,
WHICH IS THE STATE OF GOOD
REPAIR OF THE EXISTING SYSTEM.

Steve says YOU'LL GRANT THIS IS
UNPRECEDENTED.
NORMALLY THE CITY, THE TTC
ITSELF, PLANS, DEVELOPS, IS
RESPONSIBLE FOR BUILDING,
PUTTING OUT THE CONTRACTS...
THAT'S BEEN YOUR BAILIWICK FOR
THE LAST 70 YEARS...

Tory says NO, THERE WAS A MAJOR
EXCEPTION MADE TO THAT UNDER THE
PREMIERSHIP OF DALTON McGUINTY
AND WHEN OTHERS WERE MAYOR OF
TORONTO, WHICH WAS THAT THE
EGLINTON TRANSIT LINE WHICH
AGAIN FOR THE BENEFIT OF PEOPLE
WHO DON'T LIVE HERE, IT'S BEING
BUILT RIGHT THROUGH THE MIDDLE
OF THE CITY, HUGE, THE BIGGEST
PRESENT TRANSIT PROGRAM IN NORTH
AMERICA.

Steve says 100 YARDS NORTH OF
THIS STATION.

Tory says RIGHT.
IS BEING BUILT AND PAID FOR AND
WILL BE OWNED BY THE PROVINCE OF
ONTARIO AND OPERATED BY TORONTO.
SO IT WAS A MODEL THAT WE HAD
PROVEN BEFORE WORKED.
PEOPLE HAD AGREED TO IT.
SO WE'RE SIMPLY SAYING, OKAY, IF
THAT MODEL WORKS, WE WILL USE IT
AGAIN FOR THESE EXPANSION LINES
AND THAT ALLOWS US TO KEEP
OWNERSHIP OF THE SYSTEM AS IT
PRESENTLY EXISTS.

Steve says HOW CONFIDENT ARE
YOU THAT THEY WILL HIT THE DUE
DATE OF 2027 AND THE PRICE TAG
WHICH IS ALMOST 11 BILLION DOLLARS ON
THIS ONTARIO LINE?

Tory says THE PRICE TAG IS ALWAYS
DIFFICULT ON THESE HUGE PROJECTS
ONLY BECAUSE YOU ENCOUNTER
THINGS ALONG THE WAY THAT
SURPRISE YOU, AND THAT'S LIKE
RENOVATING A HOUSE.
I THINK MOST OF THE VIEWERS WILL
HAVE RENOVATED A HOUSE AND YOU
OPEN THE WALLET THERE'S
SOMETHING MORE YOU DIDN'T KNOW
ABOUT AND IT COSTS MORE TO FIX
IT.
THE TIMETABLE WILL GO LATER THAN
THEY THOUGHT.
THEY'RE GOING TO STRIVE HARD
BECAUSE THEY SEEM DETERMINED TO
MEET 2027.
EVERYBODY WHO HAS DONE A HOUSE
RENOVATION THAT'S WATCHING TVO
KNOWS THAT STUFF HAPPENS AND IT
DELAYS YOU TO SOME EXTENT.
LOOK, I THINK THEY'RE VERY
DETERMINED TO TRY TO MEET 2027.
AND I WOULD SAY LET'S SAY THEY
WERE TWO YEARS LATE.
I'M JUST PICKING A NUMBER OUT OF
THE AIR.
THAT TWO YEARS IS THE SAME TWO
YEARS THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN THE
EARLIER DATE WE WOULD HAVE HAD
THE RELIEF LINE BUILT, WHICH IS
A PART OF, YOU KNOW, THE SAME
PATH THAT'S FOLLOWED.
IN THAT SENSE, I WANT IT TO BE
DONE AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE.
I JUST WANT TO GET IT BUILT.
BUT I WOULD SAY TO YOU IF IT
SLIPS ON THE TIMING A LITTLE
BIT... I HOPE IT DOESN'T... BUT
IF IT DOES, THAT WILL STILL BE
EARLIER THAN OR EQUAL TO WHAT WE
WOULD HAVE ACHIEVED ON OUR
ACCELERATED TIMETABLE FOR THE
FORMER RELIEF LINE.
I'M AN OPTIMIST AND GOING TO
HELP THEM GET THIS DONE AS
QUICKLY AS THEY CAN.

Steve says WHEN YOU CAMPAIGNED
AS MAYOR YOU UNVEILED SMARTTRACK
AND IT CAPTURED A LOT OF
ATTENTION BECAUSE IT SEEMED
TO... IT SEEMED TO... YOU SEEMED
TO PLANT A FLAG FOR PUBLIC
TRANSIT IN A WAY THAT WAS
ACHIEVABLE, AFFORDABLE, AND MADE
SENSE TO A LOT OF PEOPLE.
WOULD YOU AGREE FIVE YEARS LATER
SMARTTRACK... I DON'T WANT TO
SAY IS DEAD... BUT ESSENTIALLY
DOESN'T LOOK ANYTHING LIKE WHAT
YOU THOUGHT IT WAS GOING TO LOOK
LIKE.

Tory says IT LOOKS DIFFERENT.
I GUESS, YOU KNOW, FIVE YEARS IN
PUBLIC LIFE, FIVE YEARS IN
TRANSIT PLANNING, ESPECIALLY
AROUND HERE WITH GOVERNMENTS
COMING AND GOING AND WHATNOT IS
AN ETERNITY.
I WILL SAY TO YOU THE CONCEPT
THAT THAT REPRESENTED, WHICH WAS
USING GO TRAIN TRACKS THAT ARE
IN THE CITY, HAVE BEEN LAID DOWN
FOR DECADES AND DECADES FOR
EFFECTIVELY TO MOVE PEOPLE
INSIDE THE CITY AND CONNECT THE
JOB HUBS IS STILL VERY MUCH
THERE.
THERE ARE GOING TO BE SMARTTRACK
STATIONS...

Steve says YOU SAID 22 ONCE
UPON A TIME.

Tory says YOU SEE, THIS IS A REALLY
FALSE COMPARISON.
THIS IS ONE AREA... I'M NOT
CRITICAL AS THE MEDIA, I THINK
I'VE BEEN TREATED VERY FAIRLY.
WHEN THEY SAY IT'S 22, NOW DOWN
TO FOUR, THE 22 ALWAYS INCLUDED
GO STATIONS THAT WERE GOING TO
BE REFURBISHED.
ALWAYS.
IF YOU'RE FAIR AND ADD IN THE
STATIONS ON EGLINTON AND WEST
LRT WHICH IS PART OF PREMIER
FORD'S TRANSIT PLAN WHICH WE
ALSO HAVE BOUGHT INTO IN TERMS
OF THE DEVELOPMENT YOU REFERRED
TO A MOMENT AGO, THERE'S
ACTUALLY GOING TO BE AS AM AS
THAT OR MORE.
THE BOTTOM LINE IS, HOW MANY NEW
SMARTTRACK STATIONS ARE THERE
GOING TO BE?
THE FACT IS THAT MAY BE A LESSER
NUMBER THAN WAS THE CASE WHEN I
WAS CAMPAIGNING, BUT I'D SAY TO
YOU, YOU KNOW, WE'RE STILL GOING
TO HAVE SEVERAL NEW SMARTTRACK
STATIONS BUILT AS PART OF THE
COMMITMENT THAT I MADE, FINANCED
BY THE GOVERNMENTS TOGETHER,
INCLUDING THE CITY OF TORONTO,
AND THEY WILL BE IN SERVICE
PROBABLY BEFORE ANY OF THIS
OTHER TRANSIT THAT WE WERE
TALKING ABOUT.
THEY WILL BE IN SERVICE IN LIKE
2022-23, YOU KNOW, WELL BEFORE
SOME OF THESE OTHER LINES WE'RE
TALKING ABOUT.
IT'S STILL REAL.
IT'S CHANGED.
I CONCEDE THAT POINT WITHOUT
EMBARRASSMENT.
CANADA DAY, WE'RE GETTING IT
DONE.
AGAIN, DO PEOPLE CARE WHAT IT'S
CALLED?
DO THEY CARE EXACTLY WHO OWNS
IT?
DO THEY CARE HOW MANY STATIONS
THERE ARE COMPARED TO WHAT YOU
PROMISED IN AN ELECTION
CAMPAIGN?
THEY JUST WANT US TO GET ON WITH
BUILDING TRANSIT.
THAT'S WHAT I'M DOING AND I'M
PROUD OF THAT AND I WILL
CONTINUE TO DO THAT.
I BROUGHT TOGETHER THE OTHER
GOVERNMENTS, WHETHER IT WAS
KATHLEEN WYNNE AND STEPHEN
HARPER OR WHETHER IT'S JUSTIN
TRUDEAU AND DOUG FORD, AND
HELPED THEM TO WORK TOGETHER,
AND THEY'VE COME TO THE TABLE.
I MEAN, IT'S NOT JUST BECAUSE I
DID SO.
BUT WE'RE GOING TO GET MORE
TRANSIT DONE.
WE HAVE MORE MONEY AVAILABLE
TODAY FOR TRANSIT AND HOUSING
THAN EVER BEFORE.
EVER IN THE HISTORY OF THE CITY.
AND SO WHEN WE GET BOGGED DOWN
ON HOW MANY STATIONS, WHAT NAME
HAS IT GOT, THE CONCEPT IS
THERE, USING GO TRAIN TRACKS TO
MOVE PEOPLE INSIDE THE CITY AND
TO BUILD SOME NEW STATIONS TO DO
IT, AND WE'RE GOING TO MOVE
FORWARD WITH THAT.

Steve says YOU MENTIONED DOUG
FORD IN THAT ANSWER AND I WANT
TO PICK UP ON THAT.
THE FIRST YEAR OF HIS
PREMIERSHIP, YOU TWO FAMOUSLY
DIDN'T GET ALONG VERY WELL, AND
HE DECIDED TO CUT THE SIZE OF
TORONTO CITY COUNCIL IN HALF AND
YOU WERE CAUGHT UNAWARES OF THAT
AND I THINK IT'S FAIR TO SAY
YOUR RELATIONSHIP WAS PRETTY
TERRIBLE.
WHAT IT'S LIKE NOW?

The caption changes to "Ford Feuds."

Tory says IT'S A WORK IN PROGRESS BUT
MUCH IMPROVED, I WOULD SAY.
LOOK, I FOUGHT BACK.
IT WASN'T EVEN SO MUCH ON THE
SIZE OF THE COUNCIL.
I FOUGHT BACK, BUT I KNEW IT WAS
KIND OF A LOSING WICKET BECAUSE
THE CONSTITUTION IS CLEAR.
IT SHOULDN'T BE THIS WAY.
ALL THESE YEARS LATER, WE SHOULD
HAVE HAD A MODERNIZED
CONSTITUTION BUT WE ALL KNOW THE
REALITIES OF TRYING TO CHANGE IT
AND NOBODY HAS AN APPETITE TO
THAT.
I KNEW THAT WAS A LOSING WICKET
IN TERMS OF THE LAW.
WHAT I FOUGHT BACK ON ON BEHALF
OF THE CITY OF TORONTO, NOT
BECAUSE I WAS TRYING TO ENGAGE
IN A FIGHT WITH DOUG FORD OR
ANYBODY ELSE HE WAS, HE WAS
THERE AND THEY TRIED TO IMPOSE
UNILATERALLY IN THE MIDDLE OF
THE YEAR CUTBACKS ON PUBLIC
HEALTH AND OTHER AREAS AND I
FOUGHT BACK ON BEHALF OF THE
PEOPLE OF TORONTO VERY
EFFECTIVELY.

Steve says YOU WENT DOOR TO DOOR.

Tory says I WOULD CONTINUE TO GO DOOR
TO DOOR FOR WEEKS ON END TO SAVE
SOME OF THE THINGS WE WANTED TO
ACHIEVE WAS TO SAVE PROGRAMS BY
UNILATERALLY CUTBACKS THAT
SEEMED TO BE DONE BY PEOPLE
CLOSING THEIR EYES AND DRAWING A
PENCIL LINE THROUGH A BUDGET
ITEM.
THAT I THINK MARKED THE TURNING
POINT IN THAT I THINK THEY
RECOGNIZED THE FACT, AS I HAVE
FROM THE BEGINNING, WE ALL HAVE
TO WORK TOGETHER.
THE TAXPAYERS ALL PAY THE BILLS
FOR ALL THESE PROGRAMS, PUBLIC
HEALTH AND EVERYTHING ELSE,
CHILD CARE, AND THEY DON'T
EXPECT ONE OR THE OTHER
GOVERNMENT TO BE ACTING
UNILATERALLY JUST TO CUT STUFF
OUT BECAUSE THEY HAD A PROBLEM
OR BECAUSE THEY FELT LIKE IT,
AND SO I THINK NOW WE'RE WORKING
MUCH MORE EFFECTIVELY, THE
TRANSIT DEAL BEING A GREAT
EXAMPLE.
CAROLINE MULRONEY AND THE
PREMIER HAVE WORKED WELL WITH US
AND OUR OFFICIALS WORK WELL WITH
EACH OTHER TO GET A DEAL, IF WE
CAN MOVE IT FORWARD AND GET THE
THINGS BUILT, WILL BE HISTORIC.

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Steve says THERE WAS A TIME
WHEN... THERE WAS A TIME YOU
WOULD FIND OUT ABOUT POLICIES
COMING...

Tory says CORRECT, INCLUDING UPLOADING.

Steve says IN A TEXT MESSAGE
THE NIGHT BEFORE IT WAS GOING TO
BE ANNOUNCED.
THOSE DAYS ARE GONE.

Tory says I WOULD HAPPILY GO TO THEIR
OFFICE IF THEY SAID WOULD YOU
COME TO SEE ME BUT THEY CAME TO
MY OFFICE AND SAID THIS IS WHAT
WE'RE THINKING OF DOING, WHAT
ARE THE COMPLICATIONS OF THAT
FOR TORONTO.
IT'S A SEA CHANGE, A DRAMA SEA CHANGE.

Steve says WHY DID HE SEE THE LIGHT ON THAT?

Tory says HE MADE SOME CHANGES WITH I I
THINK ARE IMPORTANT...

Steve says THAT'S A SLY
REFERENCE TO THE FACT THAT DEAN
FRENCH IS NO LONGER CHIEF OF
STAFF.

Tory says THAT'S NO DISRESPECT TO
MR. STYLE.
IT WAS AN AGGRESSIVE STYLE THAT
SAID MAYBE WE'LL THINK TO LET
THEM KNOW WE'LL CHANGE SOMETHING
IN THE CITY.
I DON'T REALLY KNOW.
I WASN'T THERE.
I KNOW THE RESULT WAS VERY
UNSATISFACTORY FROM THE
STANDPOINT OF A KIND OF
COOPERATIVE RELATIONSHIP THAT
MUST EXIST BETWEEN THE COUNTRY
AND THE PROVINCE'S LARGEST CITY
AND ITS ECONOMIC ENGINE, A HUGE
GOVERNMENT THAT IS ELECTED BY
PEOPLE.
I WAS ELECTED, YOU KNOW, BY THE
PEOPLE, THE 3 MILLION... ALMOST
3 MILLION PEOPLE THAT LIVE IN
TORONTO.
THAT'S NOT TO PLACE ANY
IMPORTANCE ON ME.
BUT THE COUNCILLORS TOO WERE
ELECTED BY THOSE SAME PEOPLE.
TO TOTALLY DISREGARD THEM AND
SORT OF PRETEND THEY DON'T EXIST
OR TO STEAM ROLL OVER THEM IS
NOT WHAT PEOPLE WANT TO SEE.
THEY WANT TO SEE GOVERNMENTS
WORKING TOGETHER.
THAT'S MY STYLE ANYWAYS.
YOU KNOW THAT.

Steve says I DO.
YOU DIDN'T LIKE THE WAY THAT
DOUG FORD CUT THE SIZE OF CITY
COUNCIL IN HALF.
YOU DIDN'T LIKE THE METHOD, THE
PROCESS BY WHICH IT WAS DONE.
BUT IT'S BEEN DONE.
AND WOULD YOU CONCEDE HE WAS
RIGHT ACTUALLY TO HAVE A SMALLER
COUNCIL?
IT DOES WORK BETTER NOW, DOESN'T IT?

Tory says IN SOME RESPECTS.
THE MEETINGS SEEM TO BE SHORTER.
THAT'S PURE MATHEMATICS.
WHEN YOU HAD 45 PEOPLE WHO GET
FIVE MINUTES TO SPEAK, BECAUSE
YOU GET FIVE MINUTES TO SPEAK
AND FIVE MINUTES TO ASK
QUESTION.
DO THE MATH.
THAT PART WORKS.
SO FAR IN THE TERM ONE OF THE
THINGS I AM PROUDEST OF FRANKLY
IN TERMS OF MY TIME HERE, I'VE
HELPED THE COUNCIL TO WORK
BETTER TOGETHER BECAUSE OF MY
OWN STYLE, WHICH IS TO SAY THAT
YOU TRY TO BUILD CONSENSUS AND
YOU COLLABORATE IN THE MUNICIPAL
SYSTEM WITHOUT PARTIES IN ALL
THE CITIES AND TOWNS IN ONTARIO
IT'S SET UP THAT WAY.
I WOULD SAY TO YOU THE PART THAT
WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, NOT YET A
UNILATERAL DECLARATION OF
SUCCESS IS YOU NOW HAVE CITY
COUNCILLORS, WHO I BELIEVE ARE
CONFRONTED BY MORE GRANULAR
PROBLEMS ON THEIR PLATE, RANGING
FROM MY GARBAGE DIDN'T GET
PICKED UP TO THE FIRE DEPARTMENT
HASN'T BEEN FAST ENOUGH... ON IT
GOES.
I THINK THOSE POLITICIANS, MY
COLLEAGUES AT CITY COUNCIL, HAVE
MORE ON THEIR PLATE IN TERMS OF
THE QUANTITY OF STUFF THEY HAVE
TO DEAL WITH.
I THINK THE BURDEN THAT'S BEEN
PLACED ON THEM PER PERSON IS NOW
TWICE AS BIG, AND I THINK THAT
PART IS AS YET NOT ONE WHERE YOU
CAN SAY IT'S A BIG RESOUNDING
SUCCESS.

Steve says DO YOU THINK... YOU
KNOW THERE'S AN EFFORT BY SOME
PEOPLE IN THE CITY OF TORONTO TO
ACHIEVE WHAT THEY CALL CHARTER
CITY STATUS WHICH IMPLIES
SIGNIFICANTLY MORE AUTONOMY AND
POWER TO DO TORONTO'S OWN THING.
ARE YOU IN FAVOUR OF THAT?

Tory says WELL, WE HAVE THE CITY OF
TORONTO ACT.
THAT WAS SOMETHING PREMIER
McGUINTY...

Steve says THEY WANT MORE THAN THAT.

Tory says IF YOU SAID TO ME WE SHOULD
TAKE THE CITY OF TORONTO ACT AND
FURTHER REFINE IT TO GIVE THE
CITY OF TORONTO MORE LATITUDE
WITHIN ITS OWN LEGISLATION AND
WITHIN ITS OWN GOVERNMENT TO DO
THINGS, I WOULD SAY THE ANSWER
IS YES.
I REJECTED OUTRIGHT THE CLAIM OF
THOSE WHO USED THE WORD
SECESSION.
I THOUGHT THAT WAS A RIDICULOUS
IDEA.
IF YOU SAID TO ME SHOULD WE HAVE
TO GO UP THE STREET WHEN IT
COMES TO EMPLOYING TRAFFIC
WARDENS IN OUR CITY WHO ARE
NON-POLICE OFFICERS WHO CAN
CORRECT TRAFFIC, SHOULD WE GO UP
THE STREET AND ASK FOR
PERMISSION?
NO, SHE SHOULDN'T.

Steve says CAP IN HAND WITH
SHORT PANTS ON...

Tory says THAT WAS THE EXPRESSION I
USED TO DRAW ATTENTION TO HOW
SILLY IT WAS.
LIKE THE REINTRODUCTION OF PHOTO
RADAR WHICH I HOPE THE PROVINCE
WILL DO TO HAVE IT IN CHRISTMAS
OF THIS YEAR TO STOP PEOPLE FROM
BEING KILLED ON OUR STREETS.
WE SHOULDN'T HAVE TO ASK.
WE'RE A BIG, RESPONSIBLE,
ELECTED, ACCOUNTABLE GOVERNMENT
IN THE CITY OF TORONTO,
REPRESENTING PEOPLE... MORE
PEOPLE AND MORE OF A BUDGET
RESPONSIBILITY THAN MANY OF THE
PROVINCES OF CANADA.
AND THE NOTION THAT I SHOULD
HAVE TO GO UP THE STREET AND
SPEND ENDLESS MONTHS AND YEARS
WAITING AROUND FOR PAPERWORK TO
BE DONE AND BEGGING AND PLEADING
FOR SOMETHING THAT MAKES COMMON
SENSE IN A BIG CITY LIKE
TORONTO, NO, WE SHOULDN'T HAVE
TO DO IT.
IF THAT WOULD BE FIXED BY GIVING
US INDEPENDENT RESPONSIBILITIES
IN THE CITY OF TORONTO ACT, THAT
SHOULD BE DONE.
THAT'S NOT MY DECISION,
OBVIOUSLY.

Steve says I WANT TO READ
SOMETHING NOW YOU'RE NOT GOING
TO LIKE.
BUT THAT'S OKAY...

Tory says GO AHEAD.

Steve says AND THEN I'LL GET
YOUR TAKE ON THIS.
THIS IS SEAN MCCULLOUGH, WHO YOU
KNOW, AND HE WROTE THIS...

A quote appears on screen, under the title "A run of the mill mayor?" The quote reads "I've wished Tory would pull out what I call an 'inner Bloomberg,' a boldness like New York's three-term mayor Michael Bloomberg had who, while a wealthy conservative cast in a similar mould as Tory, used his position to dramatically push through big changes in his city. If not Bloomberg, I hoped an inner-Bill Davis might rise.
Instead, Tory exhibits a radical fidelity to the status quo in a city with big problems and lots of potential.
John Tory would make an excellent Governor General of Toronto, if such a position existed: a glad-handing, friendly figurehead who doesn't have to deal with messiness of politics, where standing for things and boldly leading the way isn't required."
Quoted from Shawn Micallef, Toronto Star. October 12, 2018.

Steve says YOUR RESPONSE, YOUR WORSHIP?

Tory says WE JUST FINISHED DISCUSSING A
VARIABLE TRANSIT PLAN...

Steve says 28 BILLION DOLLARS.

The caption changes to "Securing a legacy."

Tory says YEAH, 28 BILLION DOLLARS.
IT WILL BE MORE TRANSIT THAT
WILL BE BUILT I THINK IN THE
HISTORY OF THE CITY IN ANY ONE
PERIOD OF TIME.
I COULD TALK TO YOU ABOUT
HOUSING NOW WHERE WE'VE TAKEN A
BOLD PLAN TO TAKE PIECES OF CITY
LAND AND DEPLOY THEM IMMEDIATELY
TO LAUNCH A CRUSADE ON
AFFORDABLE HOUSING WHICH WASN'T
DONE BY ANY OF MY PREDECESSORS.
WE HAVE GOVERNMENTS WORKING
TOGETHER NOW BY ADOPTING A STYLE
THAT IS REFLECTIVE OF TWO
REALITIES: NUMBER ONE, THE CITY
COUNCIL AND THE POWER OF THE
MAYOR... IT'S FINE TO TALK ABOUT
MICHAEL BLOOMBERG.
MICHAEL BLOOMBERG OPERATES IN A
MUCH DIFFERENT SYSTEM.
IT COMES BACK TO YOUR
QUESTION...

Steve says HE HAT A VETO.

Tory says HE HAS POWERS THAT ALLOW HIM
TO SAY THIS IS THE COURSE WE'RE
GOING TO CHART.
I DON'T HAVE THAT POWER.
I HAVE TO BUILD CONSENSUS ON A
FRACTIOUS CITY COUNCIL, WHETHER
IT'S 44 PEOPLE OR 25, AND THE
SECOND IS THE REALITY OF WHAT
I'M ALLOWED TO DO OR NOT WITHIN
THE CONTEXT OF THE PROVINCIAL
GOVERNMENT.
SO I WOULD SAY TO YOU, I'LL BE
VERY HAPPY, ASSUMING WE ACHIEVE
THE GOALS THAT I'VE SET OUT TO
ACHIEVE, WHICH IS TO KEEP THE
CITY WELL-MANAGED FINANCIALLY
AND WE GET, YOU KNOW, SOLID
RATINGS FROM OUR OUTSIDE PEOPLE
WHO LOOK AT THOSE THINGS, TO
MAKE SURE THAT WE GET ON THE
AFFORDABLE HOUSING ISSUE AND
ACHIEVE A TARGET THAT IS
REALISTIC BUT AMBITIOUS, TO MAKE
SURE WE GET THE TRANSIT BUILT
THAT NEEDS TO BE BUILT WHICH FOR
DECADES ARE NOT BEEN BUILT BY MY
PREDECESSORS, AND WE DO BOLD
THINGS LIKE THE RAIL PARK, IF WE
GET THAT DONE, WHICH I THINK WE
WILL, THAT WILL STAND AS A VERY
BOLD ACHIEVEMENT IN A CITY THAT
NEEDS PEOPLE TO DO THINGS LIKE
THAT, AND THERE WILL BE MORE.
I'M NOT GOING ANYWHERE.
I'VE GOT PLENTY OF TIME LEFT IN
THIS TERM, AND THERE MAY BE
MORE, AND I CAN ASSURE YOU THAT
WHEN ALL IS SAID AND DONE, I'LL
BE QUITE HAPPY.
EVEN IF IT WAS JUST ALONE THAT I
GOT THINGS FUNCTIONING WELL
AGAIN FOR THREE GOVERNMENTS
WORKING TOGETHER, BILLIONS OF
DOLLARS... BILLIONS OF DOLLARS THAT I HAVE CONVINCED THE OTHER
GOVERNMENTS TO GIVE TO THE CITY
ON HOUSING AND ON TRANSIT IN
PARTICULAR, AND PEOPLE CAN SAY,
WELL, SO WHAT?
I'D SAY, WELL, HOW MANY BILLIONS
OF DOLLARS DID OTHER PEOPLE GET
BEFORE ME?
SO, YOU KNOW, I LOOK AT THOSE
THINGS AND I SMILE AND I SAY TO
MYSELF, LOOK, IN THE END, IF I
WAS, YOU KNOW, MY JOB IS NOT TO
CREATE EXCITEMENT.
MY JOB IS TO GET THINGS DONE AND
TO WORK WITH OTHER GOVERNMENTS
TO GET THINGS DONE.
AND ARE THINGS SLOWER THAN I
WOULD LIKE?
YES.
BUT ARE WE GETTING THINGS DONE
ON THE TRANSIT PLAN, ON
AFFORDABLE HOUSING, ON THE
ISSUES THAT PEOPLE CARE ABOUT?
YES, WE ARE.

Steve says I HAVE TO FOLLOW UP
ON A COUPLE OF THINGS THERE.
YOU JUST SAID THERE MAY BE MORE.
IN A REFERENCE TO THE FACT THAT
WHEN THIS TERM IS OVER, THERE
MAY BE MORE.
YOU'VE ALWAYS SAID YOU'RE GOING
TO BE A TWO-TERM GUY AND THAT
YOUR WIFE WOULD KILL YOU IF YOU
RAN FOR A THIRD.
ARE YOU TELLING US TONIGHT
YOU'RE RUNNING FOR A THIRD TERM?

Tory says I'M NOT TELLING YOU THAT, BUT
I'M SAYING THAT OPTION IS ON THE
TABLE AND SHE HAS BECOME LESS
VOCIFEROUS IN OPPOSITION TO THAT
IDEA, ALTHOUGH THAT WOULD BE HER
PREFERENCE THAT SHE WANTS TO
SPEND MORE TIME WITH ME, WHICH
I'M FLATTERED BY, BECAUSE I'D
LIKE TO SPEND MORE TIME WITH
HER.
IT'S DIFFICULT FOR THE FAMILY.

Steve says YOU MAY SEEK A THIRD TERM?

Tory says THERE ARE PEOPLE AT COUNCIL
WHO SAY ALONG THE LINES WHAT
SHAUN MICALEFF WAS SAYING, IT'S
BETTER TO GET CHANGE, EVEN IF
IT'S ON A SLOWER BASIS, THAN TO
GET NO CHANGE AT ALL.
I SAY IT TO YOU TONIGHT, WE WILL
GIVE THE PEOPLE A CHANCE TO
JUDGE MY LEADERSHIP STYLE IF I'M
GOING TO BE THERE IN TWO AND A
HALF YEARS AND HAVE THEM DECIDE
WHETHER THEY WANT SOMETHING
THAT'S MORE EXCITING LIKE WHAT
WE HAD BEFORE.
LOTS MORE HEADLINES ABOUT THE
MAYOR OF TORONTO IN PREVIOUS
TIMES.
OR WHETHER THEY THINK MAYBE THE
FACT THAT WE CAN ACTUALLY GET
PLANS, GET THEM FINANCED, WORK
TOGETHER WITH THE OTHER
GOVERNMENTS TO GET THINGS DONE,
WHETHER THAT IS THE KIND OF
LEADERSHIP THEY ACTUALLY EXPECT
FROM SOMEONE WHO HANDLES THE
AFFAIRS OF TORONTO IN A
BUSINESS-LIKE WAY, IN A
COLLABORATIVE WAY WITH THE OTHER
GOVERNMENTS, IN A COLLABORATIVE
WAY WITH THE COUNCIL.
SO, YOU KNOW, WE'LL SEE, IF
THERE'S ANY DOUBT AT ALL THAT
SOME OF THE STUFF I'M WORKING ON
THAT WE TALKED ABOUT, TRANSIT,
IF THERE'S A DOUBT ABOUT THOSE
THINGS MOVING FORWARD IN TWO AND
A HALF YEARS, YOU'LL BE RIGHT
I'LL BE TRYING TO CONVINCE BARB
FOR ANOTHER TERM.

Steve says PEOPLE SAY JOHN TORY
HAS A LOT OF DIGNITY BACK INTO
THE MAYOR'S OFFICE GIVEN WHO HIS
PREDECESSOR WAS, BUT HE DOESN'T
HAVE THE BIG VISION.
DOES THAT BUG YOU WHEN YOU HEAR
PEOPLE SAY THAT?

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Tory says NO, BECAUSE I KNOW IT'S NOT
TRUE.
WHEN THEY SAY THEY WANT TO
DISCOUNT THOSE WORDS INTEGRITY
AND DECENCY AND COLLABORATIVE
BEHAVIOUR BACK TO THE MAYOR'S
OFFICE, WHEN I MEET PEOPLE AT
THE EVENTS I GO TO, BECAUSE I
DON'T SLEEP MUCH, I'M GOING TO
DO THE STUFF THAT SHAWN WOULD
DISMISS.
IT'S IMPORTANT WHEN YOU'RE
LEADING THE MOST DIVERSE CITY IN
THE WORLD THAT YOU'RE OUT THERE
WITH PEOPLE SHOWING THEM YOU
CARE ABOUT THEM, MAKING EVERY
EFFORT TO BRING PEOPLE TOGETHER.
I MEAN, I WENT TO THE SOUFI'S
RESTAURANT, WHEN PEOPLE SENT
HATEFUL MESSAGES TO THAT FAMILY
THAT RAN THAT RESTAURANT TO GET
OUT OF THE COUNTRY AND GO BACK
HOME AND THIS STUFF, THAT I WAS
NOT GOING TO STAND FOR THAT.
WHEN IT COMES TO ANTI-SEMITISM
OR ANTI-MUSLIM STATEMENTS...
THAT'S WHAT I SPEND A LOT OF MY
TIME DOING, SAYING YOU ALL COUNT
HERE.
YOU'RE ALL PART OF TORONTO.
AND BACK TO YOUR QUESTION
EARLIER ON ABOUT THE LEGITIMACY
OF POLITICAL PARTIES, WHEN THEY
LOOK LIKE THEY DON'T CARE FOR
THOSE ISSUES IN THE MOST DIVERSE
CITY IN THE WORLD, PART OF MY
JOB IS TO UNIFY THAT CITY.
WHEN PEOPLE SAY THAT DECENCY AND
INTEGRITY AND WHATEVER BACK TO
CITY HALL, I'D SAY THERE'S A LOT
OF PEOPLE WHO SAY THAT ALONE
WOULD BE AN IMPROVEMENT THAT
THEY'D BE HAPPY WITH, AND WE'RE
DOING MUCH MORE THAN THAT.
SO I DON'T... I ACTUALLY DON'T
PAY MUCH ATTENTION TO THAT STUFF
ANYMORE.
I KNOW WHAT I NEED TO DO FOR THE
CITY.
I KNOW WHAT THE PEOPLE EXPECT OF
ME.
I BELIEVE I'M DELIVERING ON
THAT.
AND IF THEY NEED TO PASS
JUDGMENT ON MY LEADERSHIP STYLE
OR WHAT WE'VE GOT DONE, THEY'LL
HAVE THAT CHANCE AT THE NEXT
ELECTION IF I'M A CANDIDATE.

Steve says CAN YOU TELL ME WHAT
YOU THOUGHT OF THE PUBLIC
OPINION SURVEY THAT CAME OUT
THAT SHOWED THAT WHILE THE
ONTARIO LIBERAL PARTY IS IN THE
MIDST OF A LEADERSHIP EVENT,
THEY HAVE FIVE CANDIDATES IN THE
RACE AND YOU POLLED HIGHER THAN
ANY OF THEM.

Tory says IT SHOWED THOSE PEOPLE WHO
WROTE THOSE THINGS YOU JUST READ
TO ME ARE PROBABLY OUT OF TOUCH.

Steve says YOU'RE NOT RUNNING
FOR THE ONTARIO LIBERAL
LEADERSHIP... UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCE?

Tory says YOU KNOW WHAT?
I DON'T CARE IF I'M LOVED.
I DON'T CARE IF PEOPLE THINK I'M
EXCITING.
I JUST CARE THAT PEOPLE RESPECT
ME AND THEY RESPECT THE JOB I'M
TRYING TO DO IN TERMS OF WORKING
HARD AND WORKING TOGETHER WITH
OTHER GOVERNMENTS TO GET THINGS
DONE.
AND I THINK PEOPLE KNOW... I
KNOW THEY KNOW BECAUSE THEY TELL
ME EVERY DAY, THAT'S WHAT THEY
SEE IN ME.
THEY DON'T SAY TO ME, BOY,
YOU'RE THE MOST EXCITING MAYOR
WE'VE EVER HAD OR THEY SAY
YOU'RE WORKING HARD AND YOU'RE
ACTING RESPONSIBLY, YOU SPEAK
RATIONALLY, YOU DEAL WITH THE
OTHER GOVERNMENTS, AS DIFFICULT
AS SOME DAYS THAT MAY BE, AND
THAT'S WHAT THEY WANT.

Steve says CAN I CONTRADICT YOU
FOR A SECOND HERE?

Tory says SURE.

Steve says TAKE A LOOK AT THE
MONITOR.
THAT JACKET HAS GOT YOU A LOT OF
ATTENTION.
YOU DO SEEM TO HAVE A SENSE FOR
THE FASHION, CERTAINLY DURING
THE RAPTORS' RUN.
WHERE IS THAT JACKET NOW?

In a picture, an exhilarated Tory laughs as he walks through a crowd in daytime wearing a jacket with a Raptor's logo pattern.

The caption changes to "That jacket."

Tory says IT'S ACTUALLY, AS WE SPEAK,
IT IS ON DISPLAY IN SOME HALLWAY
AT THE SCOTIABANK ARENA BECAUSE
THEY WANTED TO TAKE SOME OF THE
ARTEFACTS OR WHATEVER YOU WANT
TO CALL THEM THAT WERE A PART OF
THAT WHOLE INCREDIBLE VICTORY
RUN AND DISPLAY THEM.
THEY ASKED IF I COULD BORROW IT
AND I SAID I'M NOT GETTING IT
OUT UNTIL THE PLAYOFFS NEXT
YEAR.

In another picture, he stands inside a room wearing the same jacket and shakes hands with a burly man.

Tory continues YOU KNOW WHAT THAT SPEAKS TO?
I'LL GIVE AN ANALOGY.
I WORKED FOR TED ROGERS, AS YOU
KNOW, HELPING TO RUN ROGERS
COMMUNICATIONS AND I SPENT A LOT
OF TIME IN TOWN HALL MEETINGS
WITH THE EMPLOYEES, TELLING THEM
WHAT WE WERE DOING, TELLING THEM
ABOUT THE RESULTS, HOLDING
MYSELF ACCOUNTABLE AND LISTENING
TO THEM.
MR. ROGERS USED TO SAY TO ME,
HOW DO YOU HAVE THE TIME TO BE
WITH ALL THOSE PEOPLE?
TED, THOSE ARE THE PEOPLE
WORKING HARD FOR US PRODUCING
RESULTS FOR THE COMPANY.
I LOOK AT THE TIME I SPEND OUT
IN THE COMMUNITY AT EVENTS THAT
MR. MICALEFF WOULD DISMISS, TO
STAY IN TOUCH WITH WHAT PEOPLE
ARE THINKING AND I KNEW WHEN IT
CAME TO THE RAPTORS, NOT ONLY AM
I A RABID SPORTS MAN, I WAS ON
THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS OF THE
TORONTO BLUE JAYS, NOT AS AN
ATHLETE BUT A FAN, I'M A
MEDIOCRE ATHLETE, I KNEW THIS
WAS SOMETHING SPECIAL.
I WAS THERE FOR EXACTLY TWO
GAMES.
I WANTED TO BE OUTSIDE THE
BUILDING AND I WAS AT EVERY GAME
OUTSIDE THE BUILDING EXCEPT ONE.
YOU KNOW, I LEARNED A LOT FROM
BEING OUT THERE ABOUT HOW
UNITING SPORTS WAS, ABOUT HOW
UNITING THIS PARTICULAR SPORTS
TEAM WAS WITH PEOPLE IN THE
COMMUNITY THAT WOULDN'T
NECESSARILY FEEL THEMSELF
INCLUDED.
I HAD A TON OF FUN OUT THERE.
THE JACKET WAS BY ACCIDENT.
A GUY SAID TO ME, THAT JACKET
YOU'RE WEARING IS VERY BORING.
HE SAID YOU SHOULD WEAR THIS
ONE.
HE HANDED ME THIS GARISH LOOKING
JACKET.
I PUT IT ON ONCE.
I COULD NEVER TAKE IT OFF.
PEOPLE ASK ME NOW, MONTHS AFTER
THE CHAMPIONSHIP WAS WON AND
CELEBRATIONS HAVE BEEN HELD,
WHERE IS THE JACKET, AS IF I
SHOULD BE WEARING IT OUT TO...

Steve says THEY WANT TO SEE IT AGAIN.

Tory says I SAID IT'S COMING BACK WHEN
WE MAKE THE PLAYOFFS NEXT SPRING.
IT WILL BE THERE.

The caption changes to "Producer: Harrison Lowman, @harrisonlowman."

Steve says I HOPE IF AND WHEN
THAT HAPPENS YOU'LL COME BACK
HERE AND DO THE PROGRAM AGAIN
AND MAYBE WEAR THE JACKET.

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Tory says I WOULD DO THAT WITH PLEASURE.

Steve says TERRIFIC.
THAT'S JOHN TORY, THE 65TH MAYOR
OF THE CITY OF TORONTO.
AS ALWAYS, YOUR WORSHIP, WE'RE
PLEASED YOU WERE ABLE TO SPEND
SOME TIME WITH US AT TVO TONIGHT.

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