Transcript: The Agenda's Week in Review | Apr 12, 2019

Steve stands in the studio. He's slim, clean-shaven, in his fifties, with short curly brown hair. He's wearing a dark blue suit, white shirt, and blue tie.
A wall screen behind him reads "The week in review."

Steve says THE AGENDA THIS WEEK
ASSESSED PROGRESS ON MAKING
ONTARIO MORE BARRIER-FREE FOR
THOSE WITH ACCESSIBILITY ISSUES;
WEIGHED THE EFFICACY OF THE NEW
SMALLER CITY COUNCIL IN THE
PROVINCIAL CAPITAL; AND TUNED IN
TO THE LAST WEEK OF ALBERTA'S
ELECTION CAMPAIGN.
THE AGENDA'S WEEK IN REVIEW
BEGINS EXAMINING THE FINE PRINT
IN THE JUST-RELEASED ONTARIO
BUDGET.

Music plays as an animated slate reads "The week in review."

Steve sits in the studio with several guests. A caption reads "Debriefing Ontario's 2019 budget."

Steve says CAN I PUT THIS TO
THE PERSON FROM THE TREASURY
BOARD?
MY HUNCH IS SOME OF YOUR MORE
ARDENT CONSERVATIVE SUPPORTERS
ARE GOING TO BE DISAPPOINTED
WITH THIS BUDGET BECAUSE THEY
DON'T THINK YOU WERE TOUGH
ENOUGH ON SPENDING.
COULD YOU ADDRESS THAT?

The caption changes to "Peter Bethlenfalvy. Treasury Board Secretariat."

Bethlenfalvy is in his late fifties, clean-shaven, with short, receding gray hair. He's wearing a black suit, white shirt, and printed yellow tie.

He says I THINK WE'RE BEING FAIR AND
I THINK WE'RE BEING RESPONSIBLE
TO ADDRESS THE EDUCATION ISSUE,
I THINK ALL PARENTS OF ALL
STRIPES AND THE STUDENTS WHO
WERE FALLING BEHIND IN MATH,
THAT'S WHAT MATTERS.
IN THE LAST 15 YEARS, UNDER THE
PREVIOUS LIBERAL GOVERNMENT,
13,000 NEW TEACHERS WERE HIRED,
9,000 EARLY CHILDHOOD EDUCATORS.
ENROLMENT WENT DOWN 1 percent IN THE
SAME TIME.
EVEN WORSE WAS THE MATH SCORES
WENT DOWN.
I THINK WHAT ONTARIANS AND THE
PARENTS AND THE STUDENTS WERE
INVESTING IN THEM, WERE
INVESTING IN PROVIDING MORE
SUPPORTS TO TEACHERS TO HAVE THE
MATH SKILLS SO THAT THEY CAN
TEACH MATH.
I'M A MATH GUY.
I SPENT MY WHOLE CAREER WITH
NUMBERS.
FINANCIAL LITERACY IS VERY
IMPORTANT.
SOMETHING YOU CHAMPIONED.
WE HAVE TO DO A LOT BETTER IN
FINANCIAL LITERACY, WE HAVE TO
DO MORE IN THE TECHNOLOGY AREAS,
WE HAVE TO DO MORE IN ARTS.
THE PREVIOUS GOVERNMENT DIDN'T
HIT THE BENCHMARKS.
WE'RE INVESTING IN THE STUDENTS
AND I THINK THE PARENTS ARE VERY
SUPPORTIVE...

Mitzie Hunter interjects.
Hunter is in her forties, with shoulder-length curly black hair. She's wearing a gray blazer with a white pin, and a black shirt.

She says I DO WANT TO SAY THAT AS
FORMER MINISTER OF EDUCATION,
THERE IS NO QUESTION THAT WE
HAVE TO DO MORE ON MATH.
THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT I TALKED
ABOUT AND PUT PROGRAMS IN PLACE.
IN FACT, MANY OF THE SAME
CONCEPTS ARE BEING UTILIZED
TODAY, AS IF THEY ARE NEW.
THEY'RE NOT NEW.
BUT WHEN WE INHERITED THE
EDUCATION SYSTEM FROM LONG
AGO...

Bethlenfalvy says A LONG TIME AGO.

Hunter says IT DEVASTATED... YOU KNOW, A
FULL THIRD OF STUDENTS WERE NOT
GRADUATING HIGH SCHOOL AT THAT
POINT.
SO THE ENTIRE SYSTEM HAD TO BE
REBUILT, REINVESTED IN.
YES, WE HAD TO BRING IN MORE OF
THOSE TEACHERS, THOSE CARING
ADULTS INTO THE CLASSROOM, AND
TO INVEST IN OUR STUDENTS.
EDUCATION.
SO I DON'T THINK THAT THIS
GOVERNMENT SHOULD BE TALKING
DOWN EDUCATION.
YOU SHOULD BE LOOKING AT THE
AMBITION THROUGH EDUCATION AND
SAYING, WHAT DO WE NEED TO DO TO
MAKE SURE WE PREPARE OUR
STUDENTS AND OUR YOUNG PEOPLE
FOR THAT FUTURE?

The caption changes to "The Week in Review. @theagenda. Tvo.org."

Steve says LET HIM HAVE A QUICK
WORD BACK NOW.

Bethlenfalvy says AS THE MINISTER OF EDUCATION,
EVERY DAY SHE TALKS ABOUT
BUILDING STUDENTS UP, BUILDING
OUR TEACHERS UP, GIVING THEM
MORE TOOLS, TAKING CELL PHONES
OUT... MAYBE THAT'S ONE THING
WE'RE TAKING OUT SO THEY DON'T
GET DISTRACTED.
WE'RE FALLING BEHIND NOT ONLY IN
MATH SCORES IN THIS COUNTRY,
WE'RE FALLING AGAINST OTHER
NATIONS.
WE HAVE TO INVEST IN TOMORROW,
THE JOBS YOU TALKED ABOUT.
WE HAVE A GREAT STORY TO TELL ON
THE EDUCATION SIDE AND I THINK
THE PEOPLE OF ONTARIO ARE GOING
TO SUPPORT US.

Steve says I THINK THE BUDGET
NUMBERS SHOW, STACEY, THAT THE
GOVERNMENT PLANS TO INVEST A
BILLION DOLLARS MORE OVER THE
NEXT SEVERAL YEARS IN EDUCATION,
WHICH THEY WOULD SAY FULFILLS
THE PROMISE THEY MADE.
WHAT'S YOUR VIEW?

The caption changes to "Stacey Danckert. Green Party of Ontario Finance Critic."

Danckert is in her late forties, with long brown hair pulled back. She's wearing glasses, a gray blouse, a silver pendant necklace and matching earrings.

She says WELL, MY CONCERN IS THAT, IF
YOU LOOK AT THE FINANCIAL
ACCOUNTABILITY OFFICE NUMBERS
THAT JUST TRACKED HOW MUCH WE
SHOULD SPEND TO KEEP UP WITH
INFLATION RATES AND POPULATION,
WE'RE DOWN BY 6 BILLION dollars FOR EDUCATION IN THIS BUDGET, AND SO
THAT IS ACTUALLY QUITE A HUGE
DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE
1 BILLION dollars, RIGHT?

The caption changes to "The opposition reacts."

Steve says SO THE BILLION
DOESN'T GO VERY FAR AS FAR AS
YOU'RE CONCERNED?

The caption changes to "Stacey Danckert, @StaceyDanckert."

Danckert says NO.
IT'S NOT GOING TO GO VERY FAR,
AND I THINK THAT WE HAVE TO BE
REALLY CAREFUL ABOUT DOING
THINGS LIKE POLITICIZING MATH.
WE SHOULD BE USING
EVIDENCE-BASED DECISION-MAKING,
ENSURING THAT WE HAVE EXPERTS
MAKING THE DECISIONS ON HOW IT
IS THAT WE ARE HELPING OUR
STUDENTS THRIVE AND SUCCEED IN
THIS EVER-CHANGING ECONOMY THAT
WE NEED TO PREPARE THEM FOR.

Steve says LET ME ASK THE
OFFICIAL OPPOSITION CRITIC FOR
FINANCE HERE.
IF THERE WAS A MISSED
OPPORTUNITY IN THIS BUDGET, WHAT
WOULD YOU POINT TO?

The caption changes to "Sandy Shaw. NDP Finance Critic."

Shaw is in her fifties, with chin-length straight chestnut hair. She's wearing glasses, a white blazer and a burgundy blouse.

She says WELL, I WOULD... WE HAVE
DISCUSSED THE 1 BILLION dollars THAT
HAS BEEN TAKEN OUT OF THE
CHILDREN AND COMMUNITY SOCIAL
SERVICES BUDGET.
SO THE MISSED OPPORTUNITY IS TO
INVEST IN THE MOST VULNERABLE
PEOPLE IN OUR COMMUNITY, IN OUR
CHILDREN.
WE HAVE HAD FAMILIES AND PARENTS
WITH CHILDREN LIVING WITH AUTISM
ON THE FRONT LINE PROTESTING,
LOOKING FOR REAL ANSWERS,
LOOKING TO UNDERSTAND HOW THEIR
SERVICES ARE GOING TO BE
IMPACTED, AND THERE'S NOTHING IN
THIS BUDGET THAT ADDRESSES THAT.
THERE'S NOTHING IN THIS BUDGET
THAT GIVES PARENTS RELIEF.
I MEAN, THEY'RE LIVING IN
UNCERTAINTY.

The caption changes to "For more on this story visit: tvo.org/theagenda."

Shaw continues THEY'RE LIVING IN FEAR.
AND THE MISSED OPPORTUNITY HERE
WAS TO PROVIDE REAL RELIEF FOR
FAMILIES WHO ARE CURRENTLY, YOU
KNOW, REALLY HAVE NO IDEA WHAT
THEIR FUTURE IS GOING TO BE LIKE
FOR SERVICES FOR THEIR CHILDREN.
YOU KNOW, IT'S A MISSED
OPPORTUNITY TO PROVIDE THE
RELIEF THAT FAMILIES SO
DESPERATELY NEED.

Now music plays as an animated slate reads "The week in review."

Steve sits with different guests.
A caption on screen reads "Ontario Budget 2019: Economic perspectives. Open for business?"
Then, it changes to "Picking a fight with the feds."

Steve says THERE IS A FEDERAL
ELECTION LATER THIS YEAR.
I WONDER IF YOU THINK IT WAS
SOMEWHERE IN THE BACK OF THE
ONTARIO GOVERNMENT'S MIND THAT,
IF THEY'RE GOING TO TOSS ANDREW
SCHEER A BONE, THEY BETTER NOT
BRING OUT A BUDGET THAT'S GOING
TO MAKE PEOPLE HATE
CONSERVATIVES SEVEN MONTHS FROM
NOW.
DO YOU THINK THAT WAS PART OF
THE CALCULATION?

The caption changes to "Angella Macewen. Canadian Union of Public Employees. @AMacEwen."

Angella is in her late forties, with brown hair in a short bob. She's wearing glasses, a burgundy blazer and a white blouse.

She says IT'S POSSIBLE.
I UNDERSTAND THAT SOME OF
STEPHEN HARPER'S TEAM IS WORKING
WITH DOUG FORD NOW, AND SO IT'S
ENTIRELY POSSIBLE THAT'S THE
KIND OF ADVICE THAT THEY WOULD
HAVE BEEN GIVING HIM.
BUT I THINK THAT WHAT THEY DID
IN THIS BUDGET ACTUALLY IS DO
DEEP CUTS AND THEN KIND OF DID
SOME SLEIGHT OF HAND OVERTOP OF
IT.
SO I DON'T THINK THAT THAT WAS
REALLY... I THINK WHAT THEY WERE
TRYING TO DO IS TELL ONTARIANS
TWO DIFFERENT STORIES: ONE WITH
THE WORDS THAT THEY USED, AND
ANOTHER WITH THE NUMBERS.
AND THEY HOPED YOU PAID
ATTENTION TO THE WORDS AND DON'T
LOOK AT THE NUMBERS.
AND THIS IS JUST LIKE WHEN THEY
ARE TALKING ABOUT MATH.
SO WHEN THEY WERE SAYING THAT
MATH SCORES HAVE GONE DOWN.
WELL, THAT'S ONLY FOR GRADE 6
STUDENTS.
IT ACTUALLY WENT UP FOR GRADE 9
STUDENTS AND FOR GRADE 3
STUDENTS.
SO THEY CHERRY-PICKED THIS ONE
THING AND TALKED ABOUT IT AND
DIDN'T TALK ABOUT THE BIGGER
PICTURE.
THEY CHERRY-PICKED WHAT THEY
WANTED TO TALK ABOUT, THE THINGS
YOU HOPE YOU GET DISTRACTED BY
THAT AND PAY ATTENTION TO THE
BLUE LICENCE PLATE, GET MAD
ABOUT SOME OF THE THINGS LIKE
MAYBE YOU'RE MAD ABOUT THEM
SPENDING MONEY ON PROPAGANDA
AGAINST THE CARBON TAX, RIGHT?
WHY IS THE GOVERNMENT CONCERNED
ABOUT EFFICIENCIES, ACTUALLY
WASTING MONEY ON IT.

The caption changes to "The Week in Review. @theagenda. Tvo.org."

Steve says I WAS ACTUALLY GOING
TO PUT THAT TO Geoff.
THE EXPRESSION JOB-KILLING
CARBON TAX IS ALL OVER THIS
BUDGET.
AND I WONDER IF YOU THINK THAT
THAT'S AN ATTEMPT BY THE
CONSERVATIVE GOVERNMENT OF
ONTARIO TO HELP OUT THE FEDERAL
CONSERVATIVE LEADER, YOU KNOW,
WHOSE VOTES HE'S GOING TO BE
LOOKING FOR SIX MONTHS DOWN THE
ROAD?

The caption changes to "Geoff Zochodne. Financial Post. @GeoffZochodne."

Geoff is in his thirties, with curly auburn hair and a full beard. He's wearing a blue suit, white shirt, and striped red tie.

He says I THINK THAT IT CAN SUIT
THEIR PURPOSES, SUIT THEM FOR
THAT PURPOSE, AS WELL AS FOR
THEIR OWN PURPOSES TOO.
I MEAN, THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT
THEY HAD TALKED ABOUT FOR A LONG
TIME AND I THINK TOO THAT PART
OF THE BUDGET IS, THEY DO NEED
TO STILL RUN THE PROVINCE AND TO
SET SOME PRIORITIES FOR THAT.
ALSO AT THE SAME TIME TOO, THE
LIBERAL GOVERNMENT IN OTTAWA IS
SORT OF MAKING SOME TROUBLE FOR
THEMSELVES ON THAT FRONT, SO
THEY SEEM TO BE HAVING A BIT OF
A TIME.
BUT, YEAH, I MEAN, IT IS
PROBABLY FAIR TO SAY THAT ALL
THOSE MENTIONS IN THE BUDGET...
SOME OF THEM HAVE TO BE AIMED IN
OTTAWA'S DIRECTION.

Steve says LET ME SET OUT THE
QUESTION FOR YOU IN A SOMEWHAT
DIFFERENT WAY.
WE REMEMBER 15 YEARS AGO DALTON
McGUINTY'S FIRST BUDGET,
BROUGHT IN A NEW HEALTH CARE
LEVY AND THEN SEVERAL MONTHS
LATER, WHEN PAUL MARTIN WENT TO
THE POLLS, IT REALLY AFFECTED
HIM.
HIS POPULARITY AS A LIBERAL
SUFFERED IN ONTARIO BECAUSE OF
THAT FIRST McGUINTY BUDGET.
HOW DO YOU IMAGINE THIS BUDGET
HAVING AN IMPACT ON THE FEDERAL
CAMPAIGN IN OCTOBER?

The caption changes to "Finn Poschmann. Fraser Institute."

Finn is in his fifties, clean-shaven, with short gray hair. He's wearing a gray plaid suit, white shirt, and pink tie.

He says WELL, BEING RESOLUTELY
NON-PARTISAN, I COULDN'T
POSSIBLY COMMENT ON THE
POLITICAL MACHINATIONS.

Steve says HAVING SAID THAT...

Finn says AND WITHOUT EXPRESSING ANY
VIEW ON THE WISDOM, FOR
INSTANCE, OF HAVING A CARBON TAX
OR NOT HAVING ONE OR A
CAP-AND-TRADE SYSTEM, IT'S
CORRECT TO OBSERVE THAT IF YOU
DON'T HAVE ONE, YOUR GROWTH
PROSPECTS ARE PROBABLY STRONGER
AND YOU WILL PROBABLY HAVE MORE
INVESTMENT AND CREATE MORE JOBS.
WHETHER YOU THINK THAT IS A GOOD
THING OR A BAD THING OR IT'S THE
BEST WAY TO APPROACH THE
ENVIRONMENT IS A COMPLETELY
DIFFERENT QUESTION.

Angella says I MEAN, THAT'S QUESTIONABLE,
THOUGH, BECAUSE RENEWABLE ENERGY
IS ACTUALLY A GROWTH SECTOR.
THERE'S MORE MONEY GOING INTO
THAT SECTOR...

Finn says THAT'S WHAT MR. McGUINTY'S
GOVERNMENT THOUGHT TOO.

Angella says NO, THAT'S ACTUALLY WHAT BIG
FINANCIAL INTERNATIONAL FIRMS
ARE LOOKING AT.
THEY'RE INVESTING MORE OF THEIR
MONEY INTO RENEWABLE ENERGY THAN
THEY ARE INTO OLD STUFF LIKE
COAL OR EVEN NATURAL GAS.
SO I THINK THAT WE'RE PAST THE
POINT WHERE YOU CAN SAY THAT A
CARBON TAX SLOWS THE ECONOMY
DOWN OR CAP AND TRADE SLOWS THE
ECONOMY DOWN.
WE'RE ACTUALLY INTO THE POINT
WHERE THE TRANSITION IS
HAPPENING, AND THE SMART MONEY,
THE SMART PLACES TO INVEST ARE
IN RENEWABLE ENERGY ARE IN RETRO
FITS FOR BUILDINGS, ARE IN
GETTING THE TRANSITION HAPPENING.

Now music plays as an animated slate reads "The week in review."

Steve sits with different guests.
A caption on screen reads "Assessing Toronto's smaller city council. The truth about 25."

Steve says WHAT DOES YOUR
RESEARCH SHOW IN TERMS OF HOW
MUCH MORE DIFFICULT IT IS TO
ATTEND TO THE NEEDS OF 120,000
PEOPLE INSTEAD OF 60,000 OR 70,000?

The caption changes to "Gabriel Eidelman. Munk School of Global Affairs and Public Policy."

Gabriel is in his early forties, bald, with a stubble. He's wearing glasses, a gray suit and a white shirt.

He says CLEARLY IT'S A CHALLENGE, AND
I REALLY COMMEND THE COUNCILLORS
FOR MAKING THE DECISION FIRST TO
INCREASE THE STAFF AVAILABLE AND
TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE ARE
STILL AVENUES FOR CONSTITUENTS
TO REACH THEIR OFFICES.
BUT I THINK WHAT'S ALSO AT PLAY
HERE... SO, FIRST, JUST PUT IT
ON THE TABLE.
THERE IS NO, THERE WAS NO MAGIC
NUMBER FOR THE PERFECT AMOUNT OF
COUNCILLORS THAT WOULD SOMEHOW
REACH THIS PINNACLE OF
DEMOCRATIC REPRESENTATION.

Steve says WELL, THE PROVINCE
PICKED WHAT IT PICKED BECAUSE
IT'S THE NAME NUMBER OF MPPs
AND THE SAME NUMBER OF MPs.

Gabriel says IT WAS A MATTER OF PRACTICALITY.
THERE'S PROS AND CONS TO THAT.
BUT I THINK ONE OF THE
CONSEQUENCES THAT WE'RE SEEING
AND THAT WE'LL SEE MORE AND
MORE... BECAUSE WE'RE STILL VERY
EARLY ON IN THE TERM... WHAT I
THINK WE'LL SEE MORE AND MORE IS
THAT, BECAUSE OF THE DEMANDS
PLACED ON YOURSELVES AND YOUR
COLLEAGUES AND THE OFFICES IN
TERMS OF CONSTITUENCY WORK, WE
MIGHT START LOSING TRACK OF THE
BIGGER PICTURE ISSUES, THE
CITY-WIDE ISSUES THAT WE ARE ALL
FACING, THAT THE CHALLENGES ARE
MOUNTING.
AND SO WHEN WE'RE STUCK,
FOCUSING ON ALL OF THE LITTLE
THINGS THAT NEED TO BE HAPPENING
IN OUR LOCAL NEIGHBOURHOODS, IN
OUR CONSTITUENCIES, IT WILL BE I
THINK MORE DIFFICULT TO FOCUS ON
THE BIGGER PICTURE.

Steve says HOLD OFF ON THAT.
I WANT TO COME BACK TO THAT
BECAUSE THAT'S A GREAT POINT.
ONE OF THE REASONS WE WERE TOLD
THAT REDUCING THE SIZE OF
COUNCIL WAS GOING TO BE
BENEFICIAL TO PEOPLE WAS THAT IT
WAS GOING TO SAVE 25 MILLION
BUCKS A YEAR.
IT WOULD COST LESS.
STEVEN, I JUST HEARD YOU SAY
YOU'VE ADDED TO YOUR STAFF IN
ORDER TO DEAL WITH ALL OF THE
LARGER NUMBER OF CONSTITUENTS
THAT YOU HAVE.
IF YOU'VE HAD TO HIRE MORE
PEOPLE TO DO YOUR JOB, I PRESUME
YOU HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO SAVE
ANY MONEY; IS THAT RIGHT?

The caption changes to "Stephen Holyday. Toronto City Councillor."

Stephen Holyday is in his late forties, clean-shaven and balding. He's wearing a light gray suit, white shirt, and blue plaid tie.

He says I DON'T AGREE WITH THAT.
THERE'S STILL ONE LESS
COUNCILLOR'S OFFICE WHEN YOU
CONSIDER THE CIRCLE DRAWN AROUND
MY WARD.
SO THAT'S LESS OF A COUNCILLOR'S
SALARY AND LESS OF AN ARMY OF
PEOPLE TO SUPPORT THAT.
I INCREMENTALLY INCREASED THE
RESOURCES IN MY OFFICE.
I THINK THAT'S AN IMPORTANT
POINT.
NOW, IS THERE A MAGICAL AMOUNT
OF SAVINGS JUST AROUND THE
COUNCIL BUDGET AND IS IT WORTH
REDUCING COUNCIL IN HALF TO SAVE
A FEW MILLION DOLLARS?
THAT'S A QUESTION THAT WE CAN
DEBATE.
BUT I'LL LEAVE YOU WITH THIS
THOUGHT: YOU KNOW, I ALWAYS
JOKE, OUT IN THE WEST END, IN
ETOBICOKE, THERE'S A LINE WORN
IN THE CARPET FROM MY
COUNCILLOR'S CONSTITUENCY OFFICE
UP TO THE TRANSPORTATION
SERVICES DEPARTMENT.
I SPEND A LOT OF TIME WORKING
WITH THEM BECAUSE I GET A LOT OF
CALLS, TRANSPORTATION-RELATED
ISSUES.
BUT THAT MANAGER THAT I DEAL
WITH HAS TO DEAL NOW WITH FIVE
COUNCILLORS INSTEAD OF ELEVEN.
SO HIS WORKLOAD HAS GONE DOWN.
THERE'S STILL A LOT OF CALLS AND
SERVICE REQUESTS.
BUT HIS LIFE HAS BECOME MUCH
EASIER BECAUSE OF THE AMOUNT OF
RESOURCES THAT HE HAS TO
ALLOCATE DEALING WITH LESS
PEOPLE.
AND THAT'S WHERE YOU BEGIN TO
SEE SOME OF THE EFFICIENCY IN
THE SYSTEM THAT YOU CAN'T PUT
YOUR FINGER ON, THAT'S IN THERE.

The caption changes to "The Week in Review. @theagenda. Tvo.org."

Steve says ARE YOU LOOKING AT
THE LOOK ON HER FACE?
SHE IS LOOKING... YOU LOOK LIKE
YOU'RE FROM MISSOURI RIGHT NOW.
HAVE YOU SAVED ANY MONEY...

The caption changes to "Shelley Carroll. Toronto City Councillor."

Shelley is in her fifties, with blond hair in a short bob. She's wearing glasses, a gray blazer and a patterned white blouse.

She says DOLLARS AND CENTS?
LOOK, COUNCILLORS IN THE CITY OF
TORONTO, PRIOR TO THIS CHANGE,
COST EACH TAXPAYER ABOUT 13 dollars 40,
AND NOW WE COST THEM 13 dollars.
THE REASON BEING, ALL THAT WE
HAVE SAVED IS THE SALARY AND THE
BENEFITS OF THAT COUNCILLOR AND
MAYBE ONE OR TWO STAFF MEMBERS
BECAUSE WHILE WE INCREASE THE
ENVELOPE, I'M NOT USING EVERY
SINGLE STAFF MEMBER ALLOWABLE.
STEVEN'S NOT.
BUT DOWNTOWN COUNCILLORS WHO
HAVE 120 AND GROWING ARE USING
THEM ALL.

The caption changes to "For more on this story visit: tvo.org/theagenda."

Steve says 120,000.

Shelley says YEAH.
KRISTEN WONG-TAM HAS FEWER
CONSTITUENTS.
THAT'S HOW OUT OF WACK AND
INEQUITABLE IT WAS.
IT'S A FALSE ECONOMY.
WE SAVED THE FEW INDIVIDUAL
REPRESENTATIVES.
BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, WE
BURNED THROUGH THE MITIGATION
MONEY, AND THE COST OF RUNNING
THE CITY IS DRIVEN NOT BY THE
POLITICIANS BUT BY THE PEOPLE
THEMSELVES, AND WE HAVE THE SAME
3 MILLION PEOPLE.
BY THE END OF THIS YEAR, WE WILL
BE A POPULATION OF 3 MILLION,
AND THEY HAVEN'T CHANGED.
THEIR NEEDS HAVEN'T CHANGED.
AND THE PUBLIC SERVICE IS
FINDING THAT, WHILE THERE ARE
FEWER COUNCILLORS, WE'RE STILL
ADDRESSING THE NEEDS OF
CONSTITUENTS, WHICH MEANS THEIR
WORKLOAD HAS CHANGED VERY LITTLE.

Now music plays as an animated slate reads "The week in review."

Steve sits with two guests.
A caption on screen reads "How to fix accessibility in Ontario. Anger and profound frustration."

Steve says YOU HAVE SOME PRETTY
STRONG LANGUAGE IN YOUR REPORT,
AND I WANT TO READ JUST ONE
PHRASE HERE, BECAUSE YOU
COMPARED SERVICES THAT DISABLED
PEOPLE NOW CANNOT ACCESS TO THE
WATER FOUNTAINS OR THE
RESTAURANTS THAT
AFRICAN-AMERICANS WERE
PROHIBITED FROM USING IN THE
DEEP SOUTH BECAUSE OF WHAT WAS
EFFECTIVELY APARTHEID DOWN IN
THE DEEP SOUTH 50 YEARS AGO.
THAT IS A TOUGH COMPARISON.
WHY DO YOU FEEL IT'S APT?

The caption changes to "David Onley. University of Toronto."

David is in his sixties, clean-shaven, with short gray hair. He's wearing a gray suit, blue shirt, and spotted yellow tie.

He says BECAUSE IT'S DELIBERATE.
NOT DELIBERATE TO DISCRIMINATE,
BUT IT'S DELIBERATELY PLACED ON
THE BASIS OF PERCEPTION OF
AESTHETIC DESIGN AS OPPOSED TO
MEETING THE NEEDS OF SOME 20 percent OF
THE POPULATION.
INCHING CLOSER TO 20 percent OF THE
POPULATION.
THERE'S A SMALL LITTLE
RESTAURANT RIGHT NEAR THESE
STUDIOS THAT I ENCOUNTERED A
COUPLE OF YEARS AGO WHEN I
ATTENDED THE BOOK LAUNCH OF A
FRIEND OF MINE, AND SO WE WANTED
TO GO TO THIS RESTAURANT AND I
SAID, WELL, I'M PRETTY SURE I
KNOW WHERE IT IS.
SO LET'S GO THERE.
AND WE GOT THERE, AND THE FIRST
THING I SAW AS WE APPROACHED THE
DOOR WAS THAT THERE WAS AN
AUTOMATIC DOOR OPENER BUTTON
WITH THE BLUE WHEELCHAIR SYMBOL
ON IT.
SO I THOUGHT, OH, GOOD, THERE'S
AN AUTOMATIC DOOR.
BEFORE YOU COULD GET THROUGH THE
DOOR, YOU HAD TO GO UP A STEP.
SO WHAT WAS THE POINT OF THE
DOOR FOR A PERSON LIKE MYSELF
USING AN ELECTRIC SCOOTER OR
SOMEBODY USING A WHEELCHAIR.
THE BUTTON WAS JUST USELESS.
YOU KNOW, UNDER CERTAIN
CONDITIONS, I CAN GET UP A STEP
OR TWO AND THE FRIENDS I WAS
WITH SAID, "WELL, WE'LL JUST
LIFT THE SCOOTER IN IF YOU CAN
NAVIGATE THIS STEP."
SO WE DID, AND IN WE WENT.
THERE WAS A WASHROOM INSIDE, AND
I THOUGHT, WELL, I'M JUST GOING
TO MAKE USE OF THIS.
IT HAD A WHEELCHAIR SYMBOL
OUTSIDE OF IT.
AND THEY HAD SPENT A LOT OF
MONEY RENOVATING THIS WASHROOM
SO IT WAS FULLY ACCESSIBLE, LOTS
OF ROOM, NOT JUST FOR A TINY
LITTLE SCOOTER LIKE MINE, BUT IF
SOMEBODY CAME IN WITH A BIG
POWER CHAIR, IF THEY COULD HAVE
GOTTEN UP THAT STEP, THERE WAS
MORE THAN ENOUGH ROOM.
SO I THOUGHT, OKAY, YOU'VE SPENT
THE MONEY ON RENOVATING A
WASHROOM.
YOU SPENT THE MONEY ON PUTTING A
POWER DOOR AT THE FRONT.
BUT THERE'S A STEP!

Steve says CAN'T GET INTO THE PLACE.

The caption changes to "David Onley. Former Ontario Lieutenant-Governor."

David says YOU CAN'T GET INTO THE PLACE.
AND SO THE REALITY IS THAT A LOT
OF THE CHANGES THAT HAVE BEEN
MADE BECAUSE OF THE AODA HAVE
BEEN MADE WITH PEOPLE WITH
REALLY GOOD INTENTIONS BUT
REALLY, TRULY DON'T KNOW WHAT
NEEDED TO BE DONE.

The caption changes to "The Week in Review. @theagenda. Tvo.org."
Then, it changes again to "Watch us anytime: tvo.org, Twitter: @theagenda, Facebook Live."

Steve says YVONNE, AS I GET YOU
INTO THE CONVERSATION BEFORE...
YOU'VE BEEN HERE BEFORE.
ON THE CHANCE PEOPLE DIDN'T SEE
THOSE PROGRAMS, YOU SHOULD TAKE
A MOMENT TO EXPLAIN THE VISOR
YOU'RE WEARING AND WHAT IT DOES.

The caption changes to "Yvonne Felix. CNIB."

Yvonne is in her thirties, with long straight brown hair. She's wearing a black sweater. On her forehead, she wears a white electronic device with small cameras in the front.

She says IS I'M WEARING SOMETHING
CALLED e-SIGHT.
IT'S A HEAD-MOUNTED DISPLAY THAT
ACTUALLY ALLOWS ME TO ACCESS MY
REMAINING FUNCTIONAL VISION.
THIS IS SOMETHING THAT I WAS NOT
AVAILABLE A FEW YEARS AGO, BUT
IT'S AVAILABLE NOW.
AND THERE ARE OTHER DEVICES JUST
LIKE THIS THAT ARE FOR PARTIAL
SIGHT AS OPPOSED TO A SIGHT
SUBSTITUTION, THIS IS SIGHT
ENHANCEMENT.

Steve says GOTCHA.
I WANT TO PLUCK ANOTHER LINE OUT
OF DAVID ONLEY'S REPORT AND GET
YOU TO COMMENT ON IT.
MUCH OF THE ENVIRONMENT IN
ONTARIO TODAY IS HOSTILE TO
PEOPLE WITH DISABILITIES.
I WONDER IF YOU FEEL THAT IN
YOUR EVERYDAY LIFE?

The caption changes to "Yvonne Felix, @YvonneRFelix."

Yvonne says I DO.
I DO.

Steve says HOW SO?

Yvonne says WELL, I CAN TELL YOU RIGHT
NOW FROM WHAT I SEE IN MY
PROFESSIONAL LIFE, ACCESSIBILITY
IS NOT CONSIDERED AS PART OF THE
DEVELOPMENT, IT'S NOT PART OF
THE PLAN.
PEOPLE SHOULD BE AWARE THAT
DISABILITY DOES NOT
DISCRIMINATE.
AT ANY GIVEN TIME, YOU CAN
BECOME PART OF THIS COMMUNITY OF
PEOPLE THAT FACE BARRIERS EVERY
DAY IN JUST DOING THINGS LIKE
READING A SIGN.
SO SOCIETY DICTATES THAT HOW I'M
GOING TO NAVIGATE MY LIFE IS BY
READING A STREET SIGN.
IF I DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO THAT
STREET SIGN, JUST LIKE SOMEONE
WITH A DISABILITY OR A FIRST
CANADIAN, IT'S NOT INCLUSIVE.
IT LITERALLY DOESN'T ALLOW ME OR
MY FAMILY... BECAUSE I HAVE TWO
CHILDREN AND A HUSBAND... AND WE
JUST WANT TO GO OUT AND
CELEBRATE AS A FAMILY, BUT THERE
ARE SO MANY BARRIERS LIKE THAT
THAT ARE VERY SMALL THAT JUST
SAY, "YOU DON'T BELONG HERE."
AND ANYBODY COULD BE THAT PERSON
AT ANY GIVEN DAY.

The caption changes to "For more on this story visit: tvo.org/theagenda."

Steve says HERE IS AN EXCERPT
FROM THE ACTUAL ACT, THE CLUNKY
ACT, AS DAVID ONLEY DESCRIBED
IT, THE ACCESSIBILITY FOR
ONTARIANS WITH DISABILITIES ACT.
HERE'S THE QUOTE...

A quote appears on screen, under the title "Accessibility for Ontarians with disabilities act." The quote reads "DEVELOPING, IMPLEMENTING, AND ENFORCING
ACCESSIBILITY STANDARDS IN ORDER TO ACHIEVE ACCESSIBILITY FOR ONTARIANS WITH DISABILITIES WITH RESPECT TO GOODS, SERVICES, FACILITIES, ACCOMMODATION, EMPLOYMENT, BUILDINGS, STRUCTURES AND PREMISES, ON OR BEFORE JANUARY 1ST, 2025."
Quoted from Accessibility for Ontarians with Disabilities Act. 2005.

Steve says SO WE'RE LESS THAN SIX
YEARS AWAY FROM ALL OF THIS.
DAVID ONLEY, IN YOUR VIEW, HOW
MUCH PROGRESS HAS BEEN MADE
TOWARDS THAT GOAL AS DESCRIBED
IN THE ACT?

David says IT'S ALMOST IMPOSSIBLE TO SAY BECAUSE THERE'S NEVER BEEN A
DEFINITION OF WHAT THAT FULLY
ACCESSIBLE ONTARIO IS.

Now music plays as an animated slate reads "The week in review."

Now a guest speaks on screen.
A caption reads "A lens on the Alberta election. Ford-Kenney alliance."
Then, it changes to "Catherine Griwkowsky. Abtoday.ca"

Catherine is in her late thirties, with chin-length brown hair. She's wearing a gray blazer and a blue blouse.

She says JASON KENNEY HAS DEFINITELY
BEEN TAKING SOME PAGES OUT OF
THE ROB FORD POPULIST PLAYBOOK.
FORD HAD BUCK-A-BEER, KENNEY
SAYS FREE THE BEER.
THEY'RE BOTH JOINING IN THE
COURT BATTLE TO SCRAP THE CARBON
TAX AND CHALLENGE THE
CONSTITUTIONALITY, AND WHEN
JASON KENNEY SAID THAT HE WAS
GOING TO FIRE ED WITTMER FROM
THE ALBERTA ENERGY REGULATOR, I
THOUGHT ABOUT MAYO SCHMIDT AND
FIRING THE 6 MILLION dollar MAN.
SO KENNEY IS ALL OVER DOUG
FORD'S POLICIES.
THE BROMANCE IS STRONG.

Steve says WE SHOULD SAY,
BRUCE, JASON KENNEY HAS
OBVIOUSLY BEEN IN POLITICS A LOT
LONGER THAN DOUG FORD HAS.
WHAT SIMILARITIES DO YOU SEE
BETWEEN THE TWO OF THEM?

The caption changes to "Bruce Dowbiggin. Freelance Journalist."

Bruce is in his late sixties, clean-shaven, with short gray hair. He's wearing a blue sweater, a blue checkered shirt and a blue tie.

He says WELL, AS WAS JUST SAID, I
MEAN, THEY'RE OPERATING OFF OF
EACH OTHER'S COFFEE BOOK.
IT'S A RECIPE.
LISTEN, THE DONALD TRUMP EFFECT
AS WELL IS ALSO SOMETHING THAT
WE'RE SEEING IN ALBERTA.
BUT DON'T UNDERESTIMATE THE FACT
THAT IT'S NOT JUST MR. FORD
THAT'S INVOLVED HERE.
IT'S ALSO THE OTHER PREMIERS IN
SASKATCHEWAN AND MANITOBA
POSSIBLY.
IF THERE'S A BROMANCE WITH
MR. FORD, THERE'S GOING TO BE
SOMETHING OTHER THAN THAT FOR
ANDREW SCHEER IF HE BECOMES THE
PRIME MINISTER IN THE FALL
BECAUSE THEY HAVE SOME BIG FISH
TO FRY.

Steve says LET'S PICK UP ON
THAT.
THAT'S A GOOD POINT.
DUANE, DO YOU SEE THE ALBERTA
ELECTION AS SOMEHOW BEING A TEST
RUN FOR THE FEDERAL ELECTION TO
COME LATER THIS YEAR?

The caption changes to "Duane Bratt. Editor, 'Orange chinook: politics in the new Alberta.'"

Duane is in his late fifties, clean-shaven, with short blond hair. He's wearing a green suit, blue shirt, and patterned yellow tie.

He says OH, ABSOLUTELY.
I MEAN, A MAJOR PLANK OF JASON
KENNEY'S CAMPAIGN IS FIGHTING
OTTAWA.
AND NOT JUST FIGHTING OTTAWA.
HE HAS A LONG LIST OF PEOPLE
HE'S GOING TO FIGHT.
SO YESTERDAY IN MEDICINE HAT, HE
PROMISED TO TURN OFF THE TAPS OF
OIL TO BRITISH COLUMBIA, TO
INVESTIGATE ENVIRONMENTAL
GROUPS, TO SEE ABOUT THEIR
CHARITABLE STATUS.
HE'S GOING TO HOLD A REFERENDUM
ON EQUALIZATION TO GET PIPELINES
THROUGH.
HE WILL JOIN THE FORD LAWSUIT
AGAINST THE FEDERAL CARBON TAX.
YOU REMEMBER A COUPLE MONTHS AGO
THERE WAS A COVER PHOTO ON
MACLEANS CALLED "THE
RESISTANCE," WITH KENNEY AND
SCHEER AND FORD.
KENNEY IS THE LEADER OF THAT
GROUP.
EVEN BEFORE HE BECOMES PREMIER
OF ALBERTA, HE IS MORE
SIGNIFICANT AS A CONSERVATIVE
LEADER THAN SCHEER IS OR EVEN
DOUG FORD RIGHT NOW.

The caption changes to "The Week in Review. @theagenda. Tvo.org."

Steve says DAVID, I WONDER IF I
COULD GET YOU TO SPEAK...
BECAUSE I KNOW YOU'RE A
SUPPORTER OF THE PREMIER'S AND
YOU HOPE SHE GETS REELECTED.
SHE HAD THE BAD TIMING TO COME
INTO POWER, AS BOB RAE DID BACK
FROM 1990, JUST ON... AS YOUR
PROVINCE WAS GOING THROUGH QUITE
SOME DISASTROUS ECONOMIC TIMES.
THE UNEMPLOYMENT RATE PEAKED AT
9.1 percent IN NOVEMBER OF 2016.
THE LATEST NUMBERS PUT IT
CONSIDERABLY LOWER, BUT STILL,
IN SOME RESPECTS, THE DYE WAS
CAST.
SHE WAS UNABLE TO GET PIPELINES
BUILT, WHICH WAS A BIG PART OF
HER UNIQUE SELLING PROPOSITION,
IF YOU LIKE.
WHAT WOULD YOU SAY TO PEOPLE WHO
ARE SAYING: WHY SHOULD WE
REELECT THE PREMIER?
SHE WASN'T ABLE TO GET DONE A
LOT OF THE STUFF THAT SHE SAID
SHE'D GET DONE?

The caption changes to "David Climenhaga. Albertapolitics.ca"
Then, it changes again to "Under the microscope."

David is in his late fifties, balding, with a full white beard. He's wearing glasses, a brown tweed suit and a black sweater.

He says WELL, I GUESS I'M A REALIST
ABOUT THIS.
I HAVE ALWAYS ARGUED THAT IF
YOU'RE ELECTED IN A TIME WHEN
THE ECONOMY IS DOWN, YOU OWN THE
ECONOMY WHETHER THAT'S YOUR
FAULT OR NOT.
I THINK THE REALITY IS, FOR
ANYONE WHO REALLY LOOKS AT THIS
FAIRLY, THE REALITY IS RACHEL
NOTLEY HAS GOT FURTHER WITH THAT
PIPELINE THAN THE CONSERVATIVES
EVER DID.
BUT YOU'RE RIGHT.

The caption changes to "Watch us anytime: tvo.org, Twitter: @theagenda, Facebook Live."

David continues I MEAN, THERE'S NO... THERE ARE
NO SHOVELS IN THE GROUND AS OF
THIS MOMENT, SO MR. KENNEY CAN
SAY NOTHING'S HAPPENED.
YOUR APPROACH DIDN'T WORK.
IN FACT THE ONLY APPROACH THAT
HAS WORKED, AND THE EVIDENCE IS
PRETTY STRONG FOR THIS, IS THE
APPROACH THAT RACHEL NOTLEY TOOK.

The caption changes to "For more on this story visit: tvo.org/theagenda."

David continues SOMEONE ELSE SAID THE OTHER DAY
THAT WHAT THEY THOUGHT WOULD
HAPPEN WAS WE WOULD SEE THE
PIPELINE COMPLETED AND NEITHER
RACHEL NOTLEY NOR JUSTIN TRUDEAU
BEING IN A POSITION WHERE THEY
COULD TAKE CREDIT FOR IT.

The clips end and Steve stands in the studio alone.

He says THAT IS THE AGENDA'S
WEEK IN REVIEW FOR THIS FRIDAY,
APRIL 12th, 2019.
YOU CAN SEE ALL OF THOSE
CONVERSATIONS IN THEIR ENTIRETY
AT tvo.org, ON OUR YouTube
CHANNEL AT youtube.com/theagenda
AND ON OUR TWITTER FEED.
THAT'S twitter.com/TheAgenda.

Watch: The Agenda's Week in Review