Transcript: Ontario Hubs: A Dispatch of Love and Politics | Feb 15, 2019

Jeyan sits in the studio. He's is in his thirties, with short black hair and a trimmed beard. He's wearing a dark blue suit, white shirt, and burgundy tie.
A caption on screen reads "Ontario Hubs: A dispatch on love and politics."

Jeyan says AN HISTORIC MAYOR.
A LOVE DOCTOR.
AND A VISIT FROM THE PRIME
MINISTER.
OUR NORTHEAST ONTARIO HUB EDITOR
CLAUDE SHARMA HAS BEEN BUSY THIS
WEEK.
HE JOINS US NOW FROM OUR STUDIO
AT LAURENTIAN UNIVERSITY IN
SUDBURY TO EXPLAIN.

Claude is in his thirties, clean-shaven, with dark hair in a pompadour. He's wearing a gray suit, white shirt, and striped blue tie.

Jeyan continues IT'S BEEN A ROUGH WEEK
POLITICALLY FOR PRIME MINISTER
JUSTIN TRUDEAU.
HE MADE A STOP IN SUDBURY ON WEDNESDAY.
WHAT WAS THE PURPOSE OF THAT VISIT?

Claude says WELL, JEYAN, IT WAS
A REAL QUICK STOP.
HE MADE A VISIT TO THE EXPANSION
PROJECT, SOMETHING THE LIBERALS
HAVE PUT MONEY INTO.
THEY ANNOUNCED THIS IN 2016.
27 MILLION DOLLARS INTO THE FIRST PHASE
OF THE PROJECT.
IT IS A BIG ROAD PROJECT THAT
MANY WOULD SAY SUDBURY BADLY NEEDS.

A picture shows a snowy countryside road.
In another picture, Prime Minister Justin Trudeau greets an older man in open air.

Jeyan says NOW THE MAYOR OF
GREATER SUDBURY, BRIAN BIGGAR,
SAID THIS PROJECT HAS BEEN 25
YEARS IN THE MAKING.
WHAT'S THE SIGNIFICANCE IN THIS
AREA FOR THAT PROJECT?

The caption changes to "Claude Sharma. Northeast Ontario Hubs Editor."
Then, it changes again to "Prime Minister in Sudbury."

Claude says YES, INDEED IT HAS BEEN.
OVERALL IT'S ABOUT 120 MILLION TO 150 MILLION DOLLARS PROJECT.
IT'S PRETTY MUCH AN EAST-WEST
CONNECTION, HELPING WITH THE
TRAFFIC AND A BIG THING TOO IS
MAKING THE ROAD SAFER.
SO A LOT OF THESE BIG TRUCKS,
CONSTRUCTION TRUCKS, WON'T BE ON
ONE OF THE MAIN ROADS.
INSTEAD, THEY WILL BE SPREAD OUT
ONTO THE NEW ROADS AS WELL.
SO A LOT OF IT HAS TO DO WITH
ROAD SAFETY AND WITH TRAFFIC
CONGESTION.

Jeyan says NOW, THE
MULTI-MILLION DOLLAR EXTENSION
PROJECT WAS THE BACKDROP OF THIS
PHOTO OP.
IT WASN'T AT ALL WHAT
JOURNALISTS WANTED TO ASK HIM
ABOUT.
THERE WAS OF COURSE ANOTHER
TOPIC THAT WAS TOP OF MIND FOR
EVERYONE.
THE SITUATION WITH SNC LAVALIN
AND HIS FORMER CABINET MINISTER
JODY WILSON-RAYBOULD.

A clip plays on screen with the caption "February 13, 2019."
In the clip, Trudeau and a group of people wearing hardhats walk in the snow next to a large digger, and are then greeted by workers in yellow vests.

Jeyan continues WE'RE GOING TO TAKE A DEEP DIVE
INTO THAT CONTROVERSY NEXT
TUESDAY, BUT FOR NOW, HERE'S
WHAT TRUDEAU HAD TO SAY ABOUT IT
WHILE IN SUDBURY.

In a clip at the scene, Prime Minister Trudeau says
IF ANYONE, INCLUDING THE FORMER
ATTORNEY GENERAL, FELT THAT WE
WERE NOT LIVING UP TO THAT
STANDARD, IT WAS HER
RESPONSIBILITY TO COME AND SPEAK
TO ME DIRECTLY ABOUT THAT.
SHE DID NOT DO THAT IN THE FALL,
AND SHE ACCEPTED ANOTHER
POSITION IN THIS GOVERNMENT WHEN
I MADE THE CABINET SHUFFLE.
SO WE ARE GOING TO CONTINUE TO
WORK HARD, TO BUILD A STRONGER
ECONOMY AND ALWAYS RESPECT THE
RULE OF LAW IN THIS COUNTRY.

The clip ends.

Jeyan says CLEARLY STICKING TO
HIS MESSAGE THERE, CLAUDE.
DID HE SAY ANYTHING ELSE WORTH
NOTING ON THAT ISSUE?

Claude says HE HAD TO ANSWER
THREE QUESTIONS, TWO HAD TO DO
WITH THAT.
HE ALSO ANSWERED A QUESTION IN
REGARDS TO INFRASTRUCTURE,
LONG-TERM WATER ADVISORIES ON
FIRST NATION COMMUNITIES, AND HE
SAID HIS GOVERNMENT BACK IN 2016
SET OUT TO ELIMINATE ALL THE
WATER ADVISORIES IN CANADA.
THERE WAS ABOUT 150 OR SO.
SO HE BROUGHT UP THAT 78 HAD
BEEN LIFTED AND NOW ABOUT 62 OR
SO LEFT REMAINING, WITH THE
MAJORITY OF THEM HERE IN
ONTARIO, ESPECIALLY NORTHERN
ONTARIO.
AND I SPOKE TO THE FIRST NATION
CHIEF OF SERPENT RIVER, ELAINE
JOHNSON, AND SHE SAID HER FIRST
NATION COMMUNITY HAD TO GO UNDER
A WATER ADVISORY AND THAT
HAPPENED IN 2017, BUT IT'S MORE
COMPLICATED THAN THAT.
SHE SAID IT TOOK A LOT OF
PRESSURE IN GOVERNMENTS.
THEY HAD TO FIND A CONSULTANT IN
THE UNITED STATES AND GET PARTS
FROM ALL THE WAY IN POLAND.
SO THIS IS A PRETTY COMPLICATED
ISSUE AND SHE SAID SHE SPOKE TO
SOME OTHER FIRST NATION LEADERS
WHO SAID SOME OF THESE FIXES
THAT THE GOVERNMENT IS DOING,
IT'S KIND OF MORE OF A BAND-AID
SOLUTION.
SO IT'S NOT EXACTLY WHAT IT
SEEMS SO FAR, ACCORDING TO THIS
FIRST NATION LEADER.

Jeyan says I WANT TO SWITCH
GEARS TO ANOTHER POLITICAL
FIGURED YOU COVERED THIS WEEK IN
HONOUR OF BLACK HISTORY MONTH.
YOU RECENTLY READ THE STORY OF
DR. S.F. MONESTIME, CANADA'S
FIRST BLACK MAYOR.
YOU SPOKE TO HIS FAMILY.
WHAT DID YOU FIND INTERESTING IN
HIS LIFE AND YOU THINK ONTARIANS
OUGHT TO KNOW?

A screenshot from the TVO website pops up showing an article. It reads "tvo.org/current-affairs, Ontario Hubs, On-the-ground analysis of regional issues. Northeastern. How Saint-Firmin Monestime made history as Canada's first Black mayor. By Claude Sharma."

The caption changes to "Canada's first black mayor."

Claude says THERE ARE SO MANY THINGS.
THINK ABOUT IT THIS WAY: HERE IS
A DOCTOR, A MAN FROM HAITI, WHO
FINDS HOME NOW IN CANADA, AND HE
ENDS UP IN MATTAWA, A BLACK
HAITIAN DOCTOR, SETS UP A
PRACTICE, AND HE MARRIES A
RUSSIAN REFUGEE WHO CAME OVER
BECAUSE EUROPE, WAR-TORN BACK IN
THE '50s, FROM RUSSIA, AND MET
DR. MONESTIME IN ALL PLACES
OTTAWA AND THEY RELOCATED TO
MATTAWA, THEY HAD A FAMILY OF FOUR.

A map of Ontario appears briefly, showing the location of Mattawa, east of North Bay.
Then, a painting shows an elderly black man next to an elderly white woman.

Claude continues YOU DON'T HEAR THAT TOO OFTEN, A
BLACK HAITIAN MAN AND A WHITE
RUSSIAN WOMAN MARRYING IN THE
'50s IN A NORTH-EASTERN COMMUNITY.
I FOUND THAT FASCINATING AND THE
WHOLE DYNAMIC OF THE FAMILY.

Jeyan says WHAT IS THE LASTING
LEGACY HE LEFT BEHIND IN ONTARIO?

In a black and white picture, Monestime wears a lab coat and talks to an elderly man who lies in a hospital bed.

Claude says I THINK THAT
DEPENDS ON WHO YOU ASK.
A LOT WOULD SAY THE ALGONQUIN
NURSING HOME.
THAT WAS THE LAST OF HIS
PROJECTS.
THERE WAS A BIG NEED FOR THAT
ALGONQUIN NURSING HOME WHICH HIS
WIFE AND DAUGHTER WORKED AT.
IT IS ALSO BREAKING THOSE COLOUR
BARRIERS.
I SPOKE TO SEVERAL PEOPLE WHO,
BACK IN THE '50s AND '60s,
THEY WERE LITTLE KIDS AND HE WAS
THEIR FAMILY DOCTOR.
HE'D MAKE NIGHT CALLS TO THEIR
HOUSES.
AT ALL HOURS IN THE MORNING.
AND ONE GENTLEMAN TOLD ME THAT,
YOU KNOW WHAT?
HE MADE SUCH AN IMPACT ON THEIR
LIVES THAT HE WAS THIS BLACK MAN
THAT THEY SAW FOR THE FIRST TIME
A BLACK PERSON IN PERSON, AND
THEY'RE USED TO SEEING THEM ON
TV, AND HE WAS SAYING, WHEN THEY
WERE PLAYING ON THE PLAYGROUND,
BECAUSE OF DR. MONESTIME, THEY
WANTED TO BE THE BLACK DOCTOR,
THEY WANTED TO BE MUHAMMAD ALI
OR SYDNEY POITIER BECAUSE HE
MADE THAT MUCH OF AN IMPRESSION
ON THEM.

Jeyan says THERE IS ANOTHER
SUBJECT YOU STUDIED THIS WEEK,
THAT IS OF LOVE.
I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S BECAUSE
OF VALENTINE'S DAY THAT JUST
PASSED, I IMAGINE.
TELL US ABOUT THE LOVE CLASS YOU
GOT TO SIT IN AND WHAT STUDENTS
GOT OUT OF IT.

The caption changes to "Claude Sharma, @ClaudeSharma."
Then, it changes again to "Dr. Love's teachings."

A screenshot from the TVO website pops up showing an article. It reads "tvo.org/current-affairs, Ontario Hubs, On-the-ground analysis of regional issues. Northeastern. Lessons in love from Sudbury's very own love doctor. By Claude Sharma."

Claude says EARLIER THIS WEEK I
SAT IN ON THE CLASS, PART OF THE
IDEAS OF LOVE, PART OF
LAURENTIAN UNIVERSITY, AND KIND
OF THE TOPIC OF THE WEEK WAS
ROMANTIC LOVE.
SO THE STUDENTS GOT TO EXPLORE
WHAT THE COURSE IS BASED ON, IS
READINGS FROM C.S. LEWIS, MOST
KNOWN FOR WRITING THE CHRONICLES
OF NARNIA, BUT HE ALSO WROTE
EXTENSIVELY ABOUT LOVE.
SO THESE STUDENTS HAVE KIND OF A
CRITICAL WAY OF THINKING ABOUT
LOVE.
AND LOVE IS SO MUCH MORE DEEPER
THAN "I LOVE YOU."
SO THESE STUDENTS GET TO WRITE
ESSAYS ON A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT
TOPICS OF LOVE, AND IT'S MUCH
MORE EXTENSIVE THAN KIND OF
THAT, MY HEART AND I LOVE YOU.

Jeyan says WHAT ELSE DID THE
PROFESSOR TEACH YOU ABOUT LOVE?

Claude says JUST KIND OF HOW MANY
DIFFERENT TYPES OF LOVE THERE
ARE AND FOR THE STUDENTS TOO.
THEY SAID THAT THEY CAME AWAY
WITH SUCH A BETTER UNDERSTANDING
OF LOVE.
IT'S NO LONGER TO THEM JUST AN
EMOTION, AND THERE ARE SO MANY
DIFFERENT WAYS TO ASCRIBE IT.
I MEAN, YOU LOVE YOUR COUNTRY,
THE LOVE OF YOUR ANIMALS, THE
LOVE OF YOUR FRIEND, FRIENDSHIP
LOVE, VERSUS ROMANTIC LOVE.
THERE ARE SO MANY DIFFERENT
TYPES OF LOVE AND THEY'RE
ANALYSED AT SUCH A SCHOLARLY
LEVEL IN THIS PROGRAM AND I
FOUND THAT KIND OF EYE OPENING.
FOR ME I THOUGHT, WHAT'S THIS
GOING TO BE ABOUT?
BUT IT'S VERY EXTENSIVE.
AND I DID LEARN A LOT ABOUT LOVE.

In a picture, a bald man in his late thirties smiles as he stands behind a lectern in a classroom, next to a projection screen that reads "Ideas of love 2."

Jeyan says I'M CURIOUS TO KNOW,
FEBRUARY 14TH IN CANADA, THAT'S
VALENTINE'S DAY FOR US, HOW DOES
IT DIFFER OR HOW IS IT
CELEBRATED IN FINLAND WHICH IS
WHERE DR. LOVE IS FROM.

Claude says HE'S FROM FINLAND
AND HE GOT THAT NICKNAME, WHICH
HE LIKES, BUT HE SAYS IT'S KIND
OF, IN JOKING, FUN.
HE SAYS, ALTHOUGH HE'S DR. LOVE,
HE APPRECIATES THE WAY
VALENTINE'S DAY IS CELEBRATED IN
FINLAND AND IT'S CALLED THERE ON
THE EXACT SAME DAY, WELL,
FEBRUARY 14TH, IT'S CALLED
"FRIENDLY DAY."
AND HE KIND OF LIKES IT BETTER
BECAUSE EVERYONE CAN PARTICIPATE
IN IT, EVEN IF YOU DON'T HAVE A
LOVER.
IT'S FRIENDS BEING FRIENDS.
YOU CAN GIVE CHOCOLATES TO
FRIENDS.
YOU CAN DO WHATEVER YOU WANT.
EVERYBODY IS AVAILABLE TO
CELEBRATE IN IT.
IF YOU'RE ALONE, NO BIG DEAL.
YOU HAVE A FRIEND OUT THERE FOR
YOU.
UNLIKE HERE, HE SAYS VALENTINE'S
DAY IS A LITTLE MORE
COMMERCIALIZED COMPARED TO
FRIENDSHIP DAY.

Jeyan says I'M HOPING WE CAN
CELEBRATE FRIENDSHIP DAY SO I'M
LOOKING FOR CHOCOLATES OR BAKED
GOODS, YOU CAN SEND IT MY WAY.

Claude says I THOUGHT YOU'D NEVER ASK.

The caption changes to "Producer: Patricia Kozicka, @TrishKozicka."

Jeyan says LOOK FORWARD TO
CHECKING IN WITH YOU NEXT TIME
AROUND. THAT'S CLAUDE SHARMA,
OUR NORTH-EASTERN
ONTARIO HUB EDITOR.

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