Transcript: Hope for Syria | Jan 04, 2019

Steve sits in the studio. He's slim, clean-shaven, in his fifties, with short curly brown hair. He's wearing a blue suit, white shirt, and checked blue tie.

A caption on screen reads "Hope for Syria? @spaikin, @theagenda."

Steve says SYRIA IS STILL A
COUNTRY DEEPLY IN CRISIS, AND AS
THOUSANDS OF ITS CITIZENS SETTLE
INTO LIFE IN CANADA, THE
WELL-BEING OF THOSE HERE AND
SCATTERED AROUND THE WORLD
REMAINS, SHALL WE SAY, CHALLENGING.
FATHER NAWRAS SAMMOUR IS THE
JESUIT REFUGEE SERVICE'S
REGIONAL DIRECTOR FOR THE MIDDLE EAST.
WE SPOKE TO HIM ALMOST FOUR
YEARS AGO ABOUT THE REFUGEES'
SITUATION THEN, AND WE'RE
PLEASED TO WELCOME HIM BACK
TONIGHT FOR AN UPDATE.

Nawras is in his late forties, clean-shaven, with short gray hair. He's wearing glasses, a black sweater and a blue shirt.

Steve continues GOOD TO SEE YOU AGAIN.

Nawras says THANK YOU.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

Steve says THANK YOU FOR BEING
HERE.
I THINK MAYBE WE SHOULD JUST
CHECK IN WITH WHAT YOU SAID FOUR
YEARS AGO, AND THEN SEE IF
THINGS HAVE CHANGED ANY, OKAY?
ALL RIGHT, MR. DIRECTOR,
SHELDON, IF YOU WOULD, PLEASE.

A clip plays on screen with the caption "February 17, 2015. Nawras Sammour. Jesuit Refugee Service."
In the clip, Nawras talks to Steve in the studio.

Steve says DO YOU SEE ANY END IN SIGHT FOR
THE CIVIL WAR THAT'S BEEN
HAPPENING IN SYRIA NOW FOR MORE
THAN TWO YEARS?

Nawras says NO, I WOULD SAY NOW IT'S MUCH
MORE DIFFICULT TO SEE AN END...
HAVE, WOULD HAVE SOME
POSSIBILITY OF HAVING PEACE,
GENEVA TOO, FOR EXAMPLE.
NOW IT'S FINISHED, AND NOTHING,
NOTHING HAPPENED.
SO THE SITUATION NOW, I WOULD
SAY THAT SYRIA IS... WE ARE
GOING TO THE UNKNOWN, UNKNOWN
AREA.
AND THE SOLUTIONS COULD COME AT
ANY TIME FROM ELSEWHERE, NOT
FROM SYRIANS.

The clip ends.

Steve says THAT WAS ROUGHLY FOUR
YEARS AGO, SO LET'S ASK, FOUR
YEARS LATER, ARE THINGS ANY DIFFERENT?

The caption changes to "Nawras Sammour. Jesuit Refugee Service."
Then, it changes again to "A view from the ground."

Nawras says NOW WE ARE A LITTLE
DIFFERENT.
I MEAN, IN TERMS OF THE BIG
CITIES, NO ONE WITHIN THE CITIES
THEMSELVES.
THE ROADS ARE MUCH MORE SECURE,
BUT STILL, I MEAN, THEY TALK
ABOUT THE SYRIA OR SEVERAL
SYRIAS.
I MEAN, IT'S NOW, YOU KNOW, WE
HAVE THE MAJORITY OF SYRIAN
TERRITORY WHICH IS LARGELY
GOVERNED BY THE GOVERNMENT.

Steve says AGAINST ISIS?

Nawras says YEAH, AGAINST ISIS AND THE
OTHER GROUPS, AND WE HAVE ON ONE
SIDE, YOU KNOW, THE KURDS, AND
WITH THE AMERICAN TROOPS, THE
OTHER SIDE WE HAVE TURKS, YOU
KNOW, PUSHING OUT KURDS FROM AN
AREA.
AND WITH THE TURKISH TROOPS.
BUT WITHIN THE BIGGEST CITIES,
IT'S STILL THERE'S NO FIGHT
WITHIN THE CITIES.
NOW THE BIGGEST CONCERN IS THE
NEGOTIATIONS.
BUT STILL UNCERTAIN.
SO YES, I WOULD STILL SAY UNCERTAIN.

Steve says I JUST WANT TO MAKE
SURE I CHARACTERIZE IT PROPERLY,
THOUGH.
IN THE BIG CITIES, DAMASCUS,
ALEPPO, WOULD YOU SAY LIFE IS
ALMOST BACK TO NORMAL?
WOULD YOU GO THAT FAR?

Nawras says YEAH, YEAH, BACK TO NORMAL IN
TERMS OF SECURITY.
THERE'S NO FIGHTING AROUND.
WE DON'T SEE IT, EXCEPT THE
WESTERN SIDE OF ALEPPO BECAUSE
IT'S JUST THE LINE BETWEEN THE
ISLAMIC GROUPS.
THERE'S SOME FIGHTING, BUT
WITHIN THE CITIES, A LOT OF
CHECKPOINTS NOW...
ONLY ON SOME IMPORTANT PLACES
THERE ARE SOME CHECKPOINTS.

Steve says SO IT IS BETTER.

Nawras says IT IS BETTER.

Steve says I DESCRIBED IT AS A
CIVIL WAR FOUR YEARS AGO WHEN WE TALKED.
I DESCRIBED IT AS A CIVIL WAR.
YOU'VE JUST TOLD US THAT THERE
ARE, YOU KNOW, MANY COUNTRIES,
THERE ARE MANY FACTIONS WITHIN
SYRIA THAT ARE FIGHTING.
SO IS IT ACCURATE TO CALL IT A
CIVIL WAR TODAY?

Nawras says I WOULD SAY AFTER... MAYBE
IT'S SOMETHING POPE FRANCIS
TALKED ABOUT THE SITUATION IN
OUR WORK TODAY.
I WILL TELL YOU, IT'S
FRAGMENTED, FRAGMENTED
INTERNATIONAL WAR.
YOU KNOW, WE HAVE... WE HAVE
TROOPS FROM DIFFERENT COUNTRIES
LIVING IN THE SYRIAN
TERRITORIES.

Steve says WELL, LET'S THINK OF IT.
SYRIA IS THERE, RUSSIAN TROOPS
ARE THERE, TURKISH TROOPS ARE
THERE, AMERICAN TROOPS ARE THERE.
IRANIAN TROOPS ARE THERE.

The caption changes to "Nawras Sammour. Roman Catholic Priest."

Nawras says AND DIFFERENT GROUPS.
TERRORIST GROUPS AND
PARAMILITARY GROUPS.
YEAH, WE DON'T KNOW.

Steve says I THINK THERE'S AN
EXPRESSION, THE DEVIL HAD A
PARTY AND DECIDED TO INVITE ALL
HIS FRIENDS.

Nawras says EXACTLY, AND THEY DANCE the waltz.

Steve says I NEVER THOUGHT THERE
WOULD BE ANYTHING FUNNY ABOUT
THIS, BUT YOU JUST TOLD A JOKE
ABOUT THIS.
LET THE RECORD SHOW YOU TOLD A
JOKE AND IT WAS FUNNY.
WELL DONE, FATHER.
HOW DO SYRIANS, BASED ON YOUR
INTERACTIONS WITH THEM, FEEL
ABOUT THEIR FUTURE RIGHT NOW?

The caption changes to "Healing deep wounds."

Nawras says UNCERTAIN.
UNCERTAIN.
I MEAN, WE HOPE TO... ALL OF US,
WE HAVE TO HAVE THAT HOPE THAT
SYRIA WOULD RECOVER ONE DAY AND
WOULD BE INCLUSIVE COUNTRY AGAIN
AND AGAIN FOR ALL THE
COMMUNITIES, ALL THE RELIGIONS,
ALL THE CULTURES.
YOU KNOW, THE DIFFERENCE.

Steve says BUT GIVEN ALL THE
FACTIONS THAT ARE THERE, I WAS
GOING TO SAY CAN YOU IMAGINE
WHAT RECONCILIATION LOOKS LIKE
AMONG ALL THOSE DIFFERENT
FACTIONS THAT ARE FIGHTING?

Nawras says FOR MY... ON MY OPINION, AND
ANYWAY I WOULD SAY AS A CHURCH
WE TRY TO BUILD UP THAT TRUST
AGAIN, AND WE TRY TO CONTRIBUTE
FOR RECONCILIATION.
WE WORK FOR EVERYBODY, WITH
EVERYBODY.
WE TRY TO KEEP THE ATTENTION OF
ALL THE PEOPLE THAT WE ARE ALL
LOSERS.
THIS IS THE COMMON POINT BETWEEN
ALL SYRIANS.
WE ARE ALL LOSERS, SO WE DON'T
HAVE TO BUILD ON A VICTORY OR
ON, YOU KNOW, JUST LIKE BEING...
HAVING THAT SPIRIT OF...
SO WE ARE ALL LOSERS.
WE LOST SOMETHING.
WE LOST, YOU KNOW, LOVED PEOPLE,
BELOVED PEOPLE.
WE LOST GROUPS, WE LOST
EVERYTHING.
SO BUILT ON THAT, THAT WOULD BE
A GOOD SOLUTION FOR
RECONCILIATION, A GOOD LET'S SAY
NOT SOLUTION, A GOOD APPROACH
FOR HAVING RECONCILIATION.

Steve says BUT THEY SAY YOU CAN'T
HAVE RECONCILIATION UNTIL PEOPLE
ARE TIRED, UNTIL PEOPLE ARE
EXHAUSTED FROM KILLING EACH OTHER.
DO YOU THINK PEOPLE ARE
EXHAUSTED FROM ALL THE KILLING YET?

Nawras says OH, YES.

Steve says THEY ARE?

Nawras says I WOULD SAY YES.

Steve says SO MAYBE THERE'S AN OPENING?

Nawras says I HOPE SO.
BUT THE PROBLEM NOW, IT'S ABOUT
THE FINAL AGREEMENT AND THE
FINAL AGREEMENT ACCORDING TO ME,
AGAIN, IT'S NOT IN THE HAND OF
SYRIANS, UNFORTUNATELY.

Steve says WHOSE HANDS IS IT IN?

Nawras says I MEAN, IT'S BETWEEN UNITED
STATES OF AMERICA AND RUSSIA, I
WOULD SAY, AND... BIGGEST
PLAYERS BEHIND BOTH OF THEM.

Steve says THE PEOPLE IN SYRIA
WHO WANTED TO BECOME REFUGEES...
WELL, NOT WANTED TO BECOME
REFUGEES BUT WHO WANTED TO CLAIM
REFUGEE STATUS AND GO SOMEWHERE
ELSE, TO THE BEST OF YOUR
KNOWLEDGE, AND OF COURSE MANY OF
THEM WENT TO CANADA, MANY TO
GERMANY, MANY TO TURKEY, FROM
WHAT YOU'VE SEEN SO FAR, HAVE
MOST OF THEM BEEN ABLE TO LEAVE
THE COUNTRY AND FIND A NEW
COUNTRY TO LIVE IN ELSEWHERE?

The caption changes to "Still more to do."

Nawras says YES.
I JUST... DURING THIS TOUR HERE
IN CANADA I HAVE MET A LOT OF
SYRIAN FAMILIES, NEWCOMERS TO
CANADA, NEWCOMERS, TWO YEARS,
THREE YEARS AGO, FOUR YEARS SOME
OF THEM.
SOME OF THEM THEY ARE ALREADY
CITIZENS, NEWLY CITIZENS,
CANADIAN CITIZENS.
I WOULD SAY THE INTEGRATION IS
VERY GOOD, WHICH IS GOOD.
ALSO FOR US SYRIANS TO BE PROUD
OF OUR COMPATRIOTS WHO ARE HERE
IN CANADA, AND WHICH IS GOOD
NEWS FOR CANADA.
NOW FOR THE YOUNG GENERATION,
IT'S EXCELLENT.
SOME OF THE KIDS I SAW THEY ARE
EVEN STARTED TO PLAY HOCKEY,
WHICH IS COMPLETELY SOMETHING
THEY DON'T KNOW IN SYRIA.
MY GENERATION, THOSE WHO ARE
OVERQUALIFIED, IF I COULD SAY
THAT, I MEAN, YOU KNOW,
ENGINEERS, DOCTORS, THEY CAN'T
FIND EASILY A JOB IN THIS
DOMAIN, SO THEY HAVE TO ACCEPT
TO DO SOMETHING JOBS, AND THEY
ACCEPT.
I MEAN, THEY ARE NOT VERY HAPPY,
BUT THEY ACCEPT.
EVERYBODY WORK...

Steve says BUT THEIR CHILDREN WILL...

Nawras says AND THEIR CHILDREN, THEY ARE
EXCELLENT.
THEY HAVE THE OPPORTUNITIES OF
NEW LIFE, OF INTEGRATION, WHICH
IS GOOD.

Steve says DURING YOUR TIME IN...
OR I GUESS I SHOULD ASK, WHERE
DO YOU LIVE?
WHERE IS HOME BASE FOR YOU?

Nawras says NOW?
NOW I'M BASED IN LEBANON.

Steve says YOU'RE BASED IN LEBANON.

Nawras says SINCE 2016.

Steve says SO YOU'RE GOING TO BE
IN CANADA FOR A SHORT TIME.
HOW MANY FAMILIES HAVE YOU HAD A
CHANCE TO ACTUALLY SEE IN CANADA?

The caption changes to "Canada's role."

Nawras says I SAW SOMETHING LIKE 20
FAMILIES, 30 FAMILIES, YEAH,
DURING MY TOUR HERE.

Steve says AND WHAT'S THE
FEEDBACK THAT YOU'RE GETTING
FROM THEM ON WHETHER THEY FEEL
LIKE THEIR NEW LIVES ARE WORKING
FOR THEM?

Nawras says IT'S GOOD.
I MEAN, THEY ARE HAPPY.
THEY ARE REALLY GRATEFUL FOR
BEING HERE, FOR THE OPPORTUNITY
GIVEN, ET CETERA, EXCEPT FOR, AS
I SAID, MY GENERATION, THAT
GENERATION.
MAYBE THEY DON'T FIND... AND
ESPECIALLY FOR THOSE WHO DON'T
HAVE THE LANGUAGE, YOU KNOW.
IT'S GOOD.
BUT IN THE GENERAL WAY, I MEAN,
I SAW THE LADIES, WHAT THEY ARE
ABLE TO FIND A SMALL JOB.
I MEAN, THE WOMEN, THE MEN, THEY
ARE ABLE TO WORK TOGETHER, AND
THE KIDS IN THE SCHOOL.
AND YOU KNOW, IT'S OKAY.

Steve says I THINK WE KNOW OVER
THE LAST FEW YEARS THAT CANADA
HAS ACCEPTED I THINK THE NUMBER
IS ALMOST 60,000.

Nawras says 60,000.

Steve says SYRIAN REFUGEES, WHICH
IS, OF COURSE, A LARGE TOTAL
NUMBER.
AND AS A PROPORTION OF OUR
POPULATION, MUCH LARGER THAN
MANY OTHER COUNTRIES HAVE
ACCEPTED.

Nawras says I HAVE TO SAY THANK YOU.

Steve says OH, YOU DON'T HAVE TO
THANK ME, FATHER, BUT I...

Nawras says THANK YOU, CANADA.

Steve says DID THESE EFFORTS BY
CANADA GET MUCH ATTENTION BACK
IN SYRIA?
IN OTHER WORDS, DO SYRIANS KNOW
THAT CANADA HAS PITCHED IN IN
THIS WAY?
THEY DO.

Nawras says OH, YES, LOTS, LOTS WHO STAY
THERE, WHO REMAIN THERE, THEY
WOULD WISH, A LOT, NOT ALL OF
THEM, TO COME.
NOW IT SEEMS THAT IT'S... THE
PROCESS IS, YOU KNOW, LONGER.
BUT AGAIN, YOU KNOW, YEAH.

Steve says WHAT DO THEY THINK
CANADA IS?
WHEN THEY THINK OF CANADA IN
SYRIA, WHAT DO THEY THINK OF?

Nawras says YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES WE... YOU
KNOW, IT'S... THEY THINK THAT
IT'S AN EASY LIFE.
ALWAYS I WOULD TELL THEM, LISTEN
GUYS, YOU HAVE TO GO TO A
COUNTRY AND YOU HAVE TO WORK
HARD.
I MEAN, AND YOU HAVE TO GIVE THE
PROOF OF INTEGRATION.
THE FIRST STEPS IS LANGUAGE.

Steve says GOT TO LEARN ENGLISH
OR FRENCH?

Nawras says ENGLISH OR FRENCH OR BOTH.
I MEAN, THAT WOULD BE EXCELLENT.
SO THEY COME HERE, AND THE
CLIMATE AS WELL.
IT IS DIFFICULT, YOU KNOW?
BUT STILL, THEY ARE ABLE TO
MANAGE.
THEY ARE ABLE TO MANAGE, AND
THEY ARE GRATEFUL, THOSE WHO
MADE THE...

Steve says DO THEY WANT TO BECOME CANADIAN?

Nawras says YEAH.

Steve says THEY DO.

Nawras says YEAH, YEAH.

Steve says SO THE IDEA IS NOT TO
COME HERE UNTIL THE WAR IS OVER
AND THEN GO BACK?
THE IDEA IS TO STAY?

Nawras says YEAH, YEAH.
IT MIGHT BE SOME OF THEM MIGHT
RETURN.
I DON'T KNOW LATER ON, BUT AS
FAR AS THEY ARE HERE, THEY WISH
TO... AS LONG AS THEY ARE HERE,
THEY WISH TO HAVE THAT...

Steve says BECAUSE YOU KNOW ONE
OF THE CONCERNS FOR SYRIA WOULD
BE THAT A WHOLE GENERATION OF
CHILDREN LEAVES, AND YOU KNOW,
ON THE ONE HAND, GOOD FOR THEM,
THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE A NEW LIFE
IN CANADA, PRESUMABLY A BETTER
LIFE THAN THEY WOULD HAVE IN
SYRIA, BUT ON THE OTHER HAND,
WHAT HAPPENS TO SYRIA'S FUTURE?

Nawras says THIS IS THE QUESTION.

Steve says WHAT'S THE ANSWER?

Nawras says NOW THE SOCIAL FABRIC WE HAVE
NOW UNFORTUNATELY THERE'S A GAP,
A BIG GAP, FOR THE GENERATION
FROM 20 YEARS TO 45 YEARS.

Steve says RIGHT.

Nawras says THAT GENERATION... SO NOW HOW
TO, LET'S SAY TO RECOVER THAT
GAP, HOW TO FILL IT UP?
NOW THERE'S TALK ABOUT THE
RETURN, YOU KNOW, RETURN.
NOW, OKAY, 60,000 PEOPLE IN
CANADA, WHICH IS A BIG NUMBER,
ET CETERA, BUT THOSE, THE
BIGGEST NUMBER IS IN LEBANON, IN
TURKEY, IN JORDAN, IN
NEIGHBOURING COUNTRIES OF SYRIA.
IF THERE'S A RETURN, AND THE
RETURNERS SHOULD BE PREPARED IN
A GOOD PROCESS OF
RECONCILIATION, OF AMNESTY, SAFE
RETURN, A DIGNIFIED RETURN.
SO IF THERE'S A RETURN, AND IT'S
VERY IMPORTANT FOR THE
CONSTRUCTION... NOW WE STOP
TALKING ABOUT THE CONSTRUCTION
OF THE... IT'S LATE, YOU CAN'T
TALK ABOUT THE CONSTRUCTION
BEFORE HAVING, LET'S SAY, AT
LEAST A GOOD VISION OF THE FUTURE.

Steve says HMM.

Nawras says YOU KNOW?
SO BUT PEOPLE START, AND IT'S
ABOUT TO BE PREPARED FOR
RE-CONCEPTION.
SO WE HOPE THE RETURN THAT WOULD
BE GOOD FOR... IT'S NOT ONLY
GOOD, IT'S IMPORTANT.
THERE'S NO RECONCILIATION
WITHOUT THAT RETURN.

Steve says WELL, I MEAN, 25
MILLION SYRIANS CAN'T LEAVE, RIGHT?
SO THE LONG-RANGE SOLUTION IS
PEACE IN SYRIA.

Nawras says EXACTLY, EXACTLY.

Steve says TELL US ABOUT WHAT
YOU'RE DOING, THE SERVICES THAT
YOUR ORGANIZATION CAN OFFER TO
PEOPLE HERE IN CANADA.

Nawras says MM-HM.
SO I MEAN, OUR ORGANIZATION, THE
SYRIAN PEOPLE WHO ARE HERE IN
CANADA AND WHO DON'T HAVE ANY...
I MEAN, I PERSONALLY, I DON'T
HAVE ANY CONNECTION.
MY FAMILY JESUIT FROM CANADIAN
THEY HAVE SOME FOLKS THEY TRY
TO, YOU KNOW, JUST TO HELP THEM
IN THE INTEGRATION, TO HELP
THEM... THE WHOLE CHURCH, THE
SYSTEM OF PRIVATE SPONSORSHIP
WAS VERY MUCH MOBILIZED FOR
HELPING THE NEWCOMERS WHO WAS
VERY GOOD, SO THAT WAS SOMETHING
GOOD AS WELL.
NOT ME PERSONALLY.
SO THAT'S HERE, THE WORK OF
PEOPLE HERE, LIVING HERE IN
CANADA.
MY ORGANIZATION THERE, I MEAN,
WE TRY TO HELP.
WE TRY TO HELP.
MAINLY THROUGH EDUCATION AND
PSYCHOSOCIAL ACCOMPANIMENT.

Steve says YOU'RE IN LEBANON, RIGHT?

Nawras says I'M IN LEBANON BASED, BUT OUR
SERVICES ARE IN SYRIA, LEBANON,
IN TURKEY AND IRAQ AND JORDAN.

Steve says HOW MANY REFUGEES?
HOW MANY SYRIAN REFUGEES IN
LEBANON RIGHT NOW?

Nawras says IT'S SOMETHING LIKE 950,000.

Steve says UNBELIEVABLE.

Nawras says AND THOSE ARE NOT REGISTERED,
YOU CAN ADD SOMETHING LIKE
200,000 FOR A SMALL COUNTRY,
LIKE LEBANON, FOR SYRIANS, THE
LOAD IS BIG.

Steve says IT IS.
THERE WERE... LOOK IT.
THIS IS JUST THE FACTS.
THERE WERE SOME CANADIANS WHO
THOUGHT IT WASN'T A PARTICULARLY
GOOD IDEA TO BRING SO MANY
SYRIANS FROM THAT WAR ZONE OVER
TO CANADA TO TRY TO INTEGRATE
THEM INTO A NEW COUNTRY.
SOME PEOPLE THINK WE'VE GOT
ENOUGH ECONOMIC PROBLEMS HERE
ALREADY, WE HAVE ENOUGH ISSUES
TO DEAL WITH, AND THEY WEREN'T
CRAZY ABOUT THE IDEA OF HAVING
SYRIANS LEAVE THERE AND COME
HERE.
WHAT WOULD YOU SAY TO THEM FOUR
YEARS LATER?

Nawras says I DON'T KNOW.
I MEAN, I'M NOT... BUT I WOULD
SAY YOU HAVE THAT LEGACY, THAT
TRADITION OF BEING A WELCOMING
COUNTRY.
TWO WEEKS AGO WE JUST... I MET
WITH THE STUDENTS OF THE JESUIT
HIGH SCHOOL IN MONTREAL, HIGH
SCHOOL, YOU KNOW.
AND THE PROFESSOR, THE PRINCIPAL
THERE, GOT THAT VERY GOOD IDEA
TO LET THEM INTRODUCE THEMSELVES
ABOUT THE ORIGIN.
ONLY ONE FROM... I MEAN, OUT OF
25 STUDENTS... WAS FROM THE
FIRST NATION.
SO CANADA IS THAT COUNTRY WHICH
IS BUILT ON MIGRATION.
YOU HAVE THAT LEGACY, THAT
TRADITIONAL BEING A WELCOMING
COUNTRY.
SINCE THE TIME OF THE HUNGARY
AND THE CZECH CRISIS, AND
CAMBODIANS, VIETNAMESE.
YEAH, ALL THOSE PEOPLE.
AND YOU HAVE A GOOD COUNTRY IN
TERMS OF RESOURCES, ET CETERA.
AND WHEN I SEE ALL THOSE PEOPLE
FIND OPPORTUNITY AND A JOB, IT
MEANS THERE ARE OPPORTUNITIES,
SO THEY ARE NOT GOING TO STEAL
THE OPPORTUNITY FROM OTHERS.
SO I DON'T KNOW.

Steve says IF SOMEBODY WATCHING
THIS WANTED TO BE OF FURTHER
HELP TO THE SYRIANS WHO ARE
HERE, WHAT WOULD YOU SUGGEST?

Nawras says TODAY WE STILL NEED THE
SUPPORT OF THE INTERNATIONAL
COMMUNITY FOR HAVING PEACE, I
WOULD SAY.
LET'S GO FOR PEACE.
DON'T THINK ABOUT WAR AGAIN.
I MEAN, IT'S NOT GOING TO SOLVE
THE PROBLEM.

Steve says SOMEBODY WATCHING
THIS, AN INDIVIDUAL PERSON
WATCHING THIS, PROBABLY THINKS
TO THEMSELVES: I CAN'T BRING
PEACE TO THE MIDDLE EAST.
WHAT CAN I DO?
TELL ME SOMETHING I CAN DO?

Nawras says THERE'S THE POSSIBILITY FOR
HELPING IN THE INTEGRATION OF
THOSE SYRIANS.
YOU HAVE, YOU KNOW, GOOD
ORGANIZATIONS, DIFFERENT
ORGANIZATIONS HERE OF HELPING
FOR THAT.
OR GIVING DONATION FOR HELPING
US THERE.
OR SIMPLE THOUGHT OR PRAYER,
THAT WOULD BE GREAT AS WELL.

Steve says OKAY.
FATHER SAMMOUR, DO YOU KNOW HOW TO SKATE?

Nawras says NO, I DON'T KNOW.

Steve says NOT YET?

Nawras says NO, NO.

The caption changes to "tvo.org/theagenda; agendaconnect@tvo.org."

Steve says WELL, MAYBE WE SHOULD
GET SOME OF THOSE SYRIAN
FAMILIES TO TEACH YOU TO SKATE
AND PLAY HOCKEY WHILE YOU'RE HERE.

Nawras says I DON'T KNOW.

Steve says WE GOT TO WORK ON THAT.
IT'S VERY GOOD OF YOU TO VISIT
US DURING YOUR TIME HERE IN CANADA.

The caption changes to "Producer: Mark Brosens, @MarkBrosens."

Nawras says THANK YOU, STEVE.
THANK YOU, THANK YOU CANADA,
AGAIN, FOR THE HOSPITALITY AND
THE GENEROSITY.

Steve says NOT AT ALL. FATHER
NAWRAS SAMMOUR FROM THE JESUIT
REFUGEE SERVICE. THANK YOU.

Nawras says THANK YOU.

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