Transcript: A Life Beyond Polka Dot Door | Jan 23, 2018

Steve sits in the studio. He's slim, clean-shaven, in his fifties, with short curly brown hair. He's wearing a gray suit, pale peach shirt, and lilac tie.

A caption on screen reads "A life beyond the polka dot door. @spaikin, @theagenda."

Steve says I'M GOING TO BET MOST
OF YOU WATCHING OR LISTENING TO
THIS HAVE NEVER HEARD OF A WOMAN
NAMED VERA GOOD.
ALL THE MORE REASON WHY WE'RE
GOING TO TALK ABOUT HER TONIGHT.
A LIFELONG EDUCATOR, VERA GOOD
CREATED ONE OF ONTARIO'S FIRST
PROGRAMS FOR GIFTED STUDENTS.
SHE WAS ALSO THE FIRST FEMALE
INSPECTOR OF SCHOOLS IN THE
PROVINCE, BUT BEYOND THAT, SHE
HAS A DIRECT CONNECTION TO TVO:
SHE WAS SORT OF POLKAROO'S MOTHER.
HERE TO EXPLAIN:
NANCY SILCOX, AUTHOR OF "THE
EXCEPTIONAL VERA GOOD: A LIFE
BEYOND THE POLKA DOT DOOR."

Nancy is in her fifties, with blond hair in a short bob. She's wearing a yellow cardigan over a black shirt.
A picture of her book appears briefly on screen. The cover features a picture Vera Good in her fifties, with curly auburn hair and glasses.

Steve continues AND WE ARE DELIGHTED THAT YOU
BRAVED THE 401 TO MAKE IT ALL
THE WAY IN FROM
KITCHENER-WATERLOO TO OUR STUDIO TONIGHT.

Nancy says I LOVE TALKING ABOUT VERA, SO I AM DELIGHTED TO BE HERE.

Steve says LET'S DO IT, NANCY.
LET'S GET THE BASICS OUT OF THE
WAY.
SHE'S FROM WHERE, ORIGINALLY?

Nancy says BORN IN WATERLOO NORTH, RURAL
COUNTRY HOME.
SO HER BIRTH AND HER EDUCATION
ARE WATERLOO COUNTY.

Steve says AND MENNONITE AS WELL.

Nancy says YES.

Steve says HOW DID THAT INFORM HER LIFE?

The caption changes to "Nancy Silcox. Author, 'The exceptional Vera Good.'"
Then, it changes again to "The back story."

Nancy says IT MADE HER A VERY
PLAIN-SPEAKING PERSON, A VERY
HARD-WORKING PERSON, A PERSON
WHO KNEW HER ROOTS AND
APPRECIATED HER ROOTS.

Steve says IT ALSO MEANT THAT
AT A CERTAIN POINT SHE WAS, I
GUESS, INSTRUCTED BY HER CHURCH
TO GO ON AN INTERNATIONAL
MISSION TO IMPROVE THE WORLD AND
THEY SENT HER IN 1946 TO INDIA.
WHAT DID SHE DO THERE?

Nancy says THAT'S RIGHT.
WELL, SHE WORKED IN A... THERE
WAS A REVOLUTION GOING ON,
OBVIOUSLY, INDEPENDENCE.
AND THERE WERE MANY RELIEF CAMPS
IN THE AREA, AND SHE WAS THERE
REALLY TO HELP THE THOUSANDS OF
REFUGEES THAT WERE MOVING FROM
ONE AREA TO THE OTHER.
INDIA... IT WAS A VERY TROUBLED
TIME IN INDIA.
AND SHE WAS THERE TO DO WHATEVER
NEEDED TO BE DONE.

Steve says SHE WENT TO SEE
MAHATMA GANDHI SPEAK.
PICK UP THE STORY.

Nancy says I REMEMBER HER SAYING I WAS
AS CLOSE TO HIM... I COULD SEE
THE LINES ON HIS FACE.
AND IT WAS VERY EXCITING FOR
HER, OF COURSE.
BUT THE NEXT DAY, HE WAS
ASSASSINATED BY AN EXTREMIST.
AND I REMEMBER HER TELLING ME
THAT... SHE SAID THE WHOLE CITY
WENT CALM.
IT WENT QUIET.
THEY WERE OBVIOUSLY WAITING TO
FIND OUT, WAS IT A MUSLIM?
WAS IT A HINDU?
WHO HAD KILLED HIM.
AND OF COURSE VIOLENCE ERUPTED
AFTER THAT.
BUT IT WAS A VERY EXCITING TIME.

Steve says AND IT WAS A HINDU EXTREMIST.

Nancy says IT WAS, THAT'S RIGHT.

Steve says LET'S TALK A BIT
ABOUT HER PERSONAL LIFE BECAUSE
THIS IS A WOMAN WHO, FOR MANY
YEARS, WAS VERY MUCH DEVOTED TO
HER GOOD WORKS, EVENTUALLY HER
CAREER.
THERE WAS A MAN WITH WHOM SHE
WORKED AT THIS TIME, IT LOOKED
LIKE MARRIAGE WAS IN THE OFFING,
AND THEN DOCTORS DISCOVERED A
TUMOUR IN HER ABDOMEN.

Nancy says THAT'S RIGHT.

Steve says PICK UP THE STORY
FROM THERE.

Nancy says IT WAS HER FIRST LOVE.
SHE HAD WORKED VERY CLOSELY WITH
THIS GENTLEMAN IN INDIA.
THEY HAD AN UNDERSTANDING, SHE
SAID.
THE TUMOUR WAS FOUND, AND SHE
DECIDED THAT, BECAUSE THIS
PARTICULAR GENTLEMAN WANTED A
FAMILY, IN HER WORDS, "I LET HIM GO."
AND IT'S SOMETHING THAT SHE
CARRIED FOR THE REST OF HER
LIFE.
AND THEY DID NEVER SEE EACH
OTHER AGAIN.
HE WAS AMERICAN.
WHEN SHE RETURNED TO CANADA, HE
RETURNED TO AMERICA.
AND IT WAS A LOST LOVE.

Steve says SO BECAUSE SHE HAD
THE SURGERY, SHE COULD NO LONGER
HAVE CHILDREN.

Nancy says THAT'S RIGHT.

Steve says AND THAT WAS THE END
OF HER RELATIONSHIP.

Nancy says THAT'S RIGHT, MM-HMM.

Steve says SHE COMES BACK, SHE
WANTS TO BE A TEACHER.
HOW COME?

The caption changes to "The choice to teach."

Nancy says SHE HAD ALWAYS WANTED TO BE A
TEACHER, FROM THE TIME SHE WAS
FOUR YEARS OLD.
SHE COUNTED THE DAYS.
AND THERE WAS A DELIGHTFUL STORY
SHE TOLD ME THAT WHEN SHE WAS
THIS LITTLE GIRL AND THE TEACHER
WOULD WALK PAST HER HOUSE, SHE
WOULD GO OUT AND SAY, "MISS,
WHEN CAN I GO TO SCHOOL?
I WANT TO GO TO SCHOOL SO
BADLY."
AND FINALLY IT WAS HER TIME TO
GO TO SCHOOL.
SHE WAS VERY SMART.
SHE WAS VERY
ACHIEVEMENT-ORIENTED.
BUT IN HAD THAT CULTURE, SHE
LEFT SCHOOL AFTER GRADE 8.
THERE WAS NOTHING ABOUT IT.
LITTLE GIRLS AND LITTLE BOYS
LEFT SCHOOL AFTER GRADE 8 AND
THEY WORKED.
AND THAT WENT ON FOR HER FOR
MANY YEARS.

Steve says SHE WAS, HOWEVER, I
THINK WITHOUT QUESTION, AND
WE'RE GOING BACK NOW 60, 65
YEARS, ONE OF THE MOST EDUCATED
WOMEN IN ONTARIO AT THE TIME.
TALK ABOUT WHERE SHE WENT TO
POSTSECONDARY.

Nancy says YES.
WELL, SHE STARTED HER HIGH
SCHOOL EDUCATION AT AGE 27, WENT
ON TO TEACHERS COLLEGE.
TAUGHT FOR A COUPLE OF YEARS,
BUT THEN FELT THAT SHE WANTED
MORE EDUCATION.
AND SHE DID AN UNDERGRADUATE
DEGREE AT GOSHEN COLLEGE, A
MENNONITE COLLEGE, WENT TO
NORTHWESTERN IN CHICAGO TO DO
HER MASTER'S, AND FINISHED UP
WITH HER Ph.D. OR E.D. AT
COLUMBIA.

Steve says IN NEW YORK.

Nancy says IN NEW YORK.

Steve says SHE GOT AROUND.

Nancy says SHE DID.
I REMEMBER HER ASKING, VERA,
YOU'RE A COUNTRY GIRL.
HOW DID YOU FIND NEW YORK?
"I LOVED NEW YORK.
WHO DIDN'T?"

Steve says SHE BECAME ONE OF A
SMALL HANDFUL OF FEMALE SCHOOL
PRINCIPALS IN ONTARIO AND SHE
DEVELOPED ONE OF THE FIRST
PROGRAMS FOR GIFTED KIDS.
ANY THEORIES WHY SHE WAS
APPARENTLY SO FAR AHEAD OF THE CURVE.

Nancy says AND SHE WAS YEARS AHEAD OF
THE CURVE, MOST DEFINITELY.
SHE HAD... THERE WAS AN INTEREST
THAT SHE GAINED FIRST AT
NORTHWESTERN BECAUSE GIFTED
EDUCATION WAS YEARS AHEAD IN THE
UNITED STATES THAN CANADA, AND
SHE HAD TAKEN COURSES IN GIFTED
EDUCATION AT NORTHWESTERN AND
THEN ON TO COLUMBIA.
BUT SHE WAS WAY AHEAD OF THE CURVE.
SHE HAD A FEELING THAT CHILDREN
HAD TO FLY, AND BRIGHT CHILDREN
WEREN'T ALLOWED TO FLY.
AND THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT SHE
FELT THAT GIFTED EDUCATION COULD DO.
SHE ALSO FELT VERY STRONGLY THAT
THESE WERE THE POTENTIAL LEADERS
OF SOCIETY AND THEY WEREN'T
RECEIVING WHAT THEY NEEDED.
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT SHE SAID
WAS, WHEN I FIRST STARTED TO
TALK ABOUT GIFTED EDUCATION TO
TEACHERS, TEACHERS WOULD SAY TO
ME, "THOSE AREN'T THE KIDS THAT
NEED HELP.
IT'S THE SLOW LEARNERS."
BUT VERA HAD A VERY DIFFERENT
PERSPECTIVE.
THOSE KIDS WHO WERE UNFULFILLED
IN SCHOOL REALLY NEEDED TO FLY.
THOSE WERE HER OWN WORDS, THEY
NEEDED TO FLY.

Steve says NANCY, HOW DID SHE
FEEL ABOUT WORKING IN A FIELD
WHICH AT THAT TIME WAS REALLY
COMPLETELY DOMINATED BY MEN?

Nancy says VERA HAD SOME TOUGH TIMES.
SOMEONE ASKED ME WHEN I WAS
DOING PUBLICITY FOR THE BOOK,
"BUT NOTHING REALLY BAD HAPPENED
TO VERA'S LIFE."
AND I SAID, NO, THAT'S NOT RIGHT.
SHE WAS SO CAPABLE.
SHE WAS WAY AHEAD OF THE CURVE
AS FAR AS WOMEN IN EDUCATION
WERE CONCERNED.
AND SHE ROSE TO A CERTAIN POINT
IN EDUCATION, AND THEN IT
STOPPED.

Steve says SHE HIT THE CEILING
AT SOME POINT.

Nancy says SHE DID.
SHE DID.
AND DESPITE HER CREATIVITY AND
HER... VERA WAS NOT AN AMBITIOUS
PERSON, BUT SHE WAS A CONFIDENT
PERSON.
AND SHE JUST WAS NOT ACCEPTED.
SHE WAS THE ONLY WOMAN IN THE
UPPER ECHELONS OF THE SCHOOL
BOARD WHERE SHE WORKED, AND SHE
REALLY FELT THAT SHE HAD REACHED
AS FAR AS SHE COULD GO.
WOULD I SAY SHE WAS
DISCRIMINATED AGAINST?
I FEEL SHE WAS.
IT WAS A TOUGH TIME FOR HER FOR
TWO YEARS, AND SHE COULD GO NO
FURTHER.
AND IT WAS A VERY DOWN TIME FOR
VERA GOOD.

Steve says FORTUNATELY, IN THE
MID 1960s, SHE GOT A PHONE
CALL THAT WOULD CHANGE HER LIFE
AND ACTUALLY THE LIVES OF
CHILDREN ALL OVER ONTARIO.
SHE GOT A CALL FROM A WOMAN
NAMED DOROTHY DUNN WHO WAS AN
OFFICIAL IN WHAT THEY THEN
CALLED THE DEPARTMENT OF
EDUCATION AT QUEEN'S PARK, NOT
THE MINISTRY, THE DEPARTMENT,
AND HERE'S HOW THE CALL WENT...

A quote appears on screen, under the title "A new role." The quote reads "'Vera,... you're being called back to Toronto –for special assignment. Education Minister Bill Davis just announced in the Legislature that educational TV will be up and running in a year. And we need you here to work on it. You're to get yourself down to Toronto immediately.'"
Dorothy Dunn, as quoted by Nancy Silcox, "The exceptional Vera Good: A life beyond the polka dot door." 2017.

Steve says WHAT WAS HER
REACTION TO THAT CALL?

The caption changes to "The move to television."

Nancy says POOR VERA WAS DEVASTATED.
SHE HAD MOVED INTO A NEW
POSITION AS INSPECTOR OF SCHOOLS
IN WATERLOO.
SHE HAD BEEN PUT BACK TO
WATERLOO AREA.
IT WAS A TOUGH JOB.
THEY HAD TO DRIVE ALL OVER THE
PROVINCE.
AND SHE FELT THAT SHE HADN'T
EVEN GOTTEN HER FEET WET.
REMEMBER, VERA HAD ALSO, BECAUSE
SHE WAS SO EFFICIENT, SO AHEAD
OF HER TIME, HAD MOVED TO OPEN
SCHOOLS, AND THAT HAD BEEN THE
PATTERN OF HER WORKING LIFE,
WAS, GET THIS OPEN.
WE NEED YOU IN ANOTHER PLACE.
THIS WAS JUST ANOTHER EXAMPLE
OF, I WANT ANOTHER COUPLE OF
YEARS TO LEARN THIS INSPECTOR'S
POSITION, AND NOW YOU'RE MOVING
ME AGAIN.
AND BESIDES, TELEVISION?
WE DIDN'T EVEN HAVE A TELEVISION
AT HOME.

Steve says WELL, THIS IS NOW
ADMITTEDLY 50 YEARS AGO.
50 YEARS LATER, TVO, OF COURSE,
IS VERY MUCH USED BY TEACHERS IN
THE CLASSROOM, ELEMENTARY,
SECONDARY, POSTSECONDARY.
BUT NOT THEN.
HOW DID TEACHERS REACT TO THE
NEWS THAT TVO WAS GOING TO BE CREATED?

Nancy says THEY WERE FRIGHTENED.
THIS WAS THE EARLY '70s.
TELEVISION WAS NEW.
THEY FELT VERY MUCH THAT
TELEVISION WAS GOING TO TAKE
THEIR JOBS AWAY.
AND THAT WAS A HUGE PART OF
VERA'S ROLE AT TVO, WAS TO
CONVINCE TEACHERS ACROSS ONTARIO
THAT TELEVISION WAS YOUR FRIEND.
IT WASN'T TRYING TO TAKE YOUR
JOB AWAY.
THAT WAS A PART OF HER ROLE THAT
PROBABLY NOT TOO MANY PEOPLE ARE
AWARE OF, SEEING HER AS PRODUCER
OF CHILDREN'S PROGRAMS.
BUT THERE WERE AT THE VERY
BEGINNING I THINK SHE SAID ABOUT
TEN VANS THAT WERE STATIONED ALL
OVER ONTARIO... OTTAWA, SAULT
STE. MARIE, WINDSOR... WITH
TECHNICIANS, AND THEY WOULD
INSINUATE THEMSELVES, INVITE
THEMSELVES INTO CLASSROOMS TO
SAY: THIS IS WHAT YOU CAN DO FOR
YOUR KIDS.
OF COURSE, IT WAS VERA'S ROLE TO
DO PROGRAM GUIDES AS WELL.
SO THAT WAS AN UNSUNG PART OF
WHAT HER ROLE WAS AS EXECUTIVE
DIRECTOR OF CHILDREN'S
PROGRAMMING.

Steve says I'M GOING TO ASK
LARRY BEHIND CAMERA 3 TO BRING
OUR LITTLE FRIEND ONTO THE SET,
BECAUSE I THINK IT'S FAIR TO SAY
THAT VERA WAS SORT OF THE MOTHER
TO THE POLKAROO.

Nancy takes out a Polkaroo doll and says AND HERE HE IS IN HIS POLKA DOT ROMPERS.

Polkaroo is a green kangaroo with yellow hair and orange polka-dot rompers.

Nancy continues YES, THE CONCEPTUAL IDEA OF THE
POLKAROO CAME FROM VERA GOOD.
THEY WERE LOOKING... THIS IS THE
VERY EARLY DAYS... OF FINDING
THE KIND OF PROGRAMS THAT THEY
WANTED FOR YOUNG CHILDREN, AND
FROM HER BRAIN SPRANG THE
POLKAROO.

Steve says PART MOOSE, PART KANGAROO.

Nancy says AND IN ROMPERS.
HE NEVER DID SAY ANYTHING, DID HE?

Steve says MUCH LATER, MUCH,
MUCH LATER.

Nancy says POLKAROO.
BUT HERE HE IS, RIGHT.

Steve says NOW, THE POLKA DOT
DOOR, WHICH OF COURSE WAS THE
SHOW ON WHICH POLKAROO WAS
FEATURED, AIRED FROM 1971 TO '93.
383 EPISODES.
SHE WON A GEMINI FOR BEST
PRE-SCHOOL PROGRAMS.
DO YOU THINK THAT IS HER
GREATEST LEGACY DURING THE
COURSE OF HER EDUCATIONAL
CAREER?

Nancy says NO.

Steve says REALLY?

Nancy says NO.
A FORMER TEACHER MYSELF, MARRIED
TO A TEACHER, I THINK HER
GREATEST LEGACY WAS MAKING
TEACHERS COMFORTABLE WITH
TELEVISION.
POLKAROO WAS ENJOYABLE.
THERE WERE OTHER SHOWS THAT
FOLLOWED TOO, "TODAY'S SPECIAL,"
BUT MAYBE I'M LOOKING FROM THE
PERSPECTIVE OF A TEACHER THAT
THOSE EARLY YEARS, CONVINCING
TEACHERS THAT TV WAS GOOD,
EDUCATIONAL TV WAS GOOD,
PERSONALLY, BECAUSE I USED
TELEVISION IN THE EARLY YEARS OF
MY TEACHING CAREER AND LEARNED
THAT THIS WAS SOMETHING THAT
COULD ADD TO MY TEACHING.

Steve says I'M GOING TO PUSH
BACK JUST GENTLY AND A LITTLE
BIT, BECAUSE ONE OF THE THINGS I
LEARNED FROM YOUR BOOK WAS SHE
WENT AND SHE CHECKED OUT SESAME
STREET AND THE ELECTRIC COMPANY
IN THE STATES, AND SHE WANTED TO
GO IN A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT
DIRECTION, AS OPPOSED TO
TELEVISION AS A PASSIVE MEDIUM
WHERE THEY SAT THERE AND LEARNED
ROTE ALPHABET, NUMBERS AND SO
ON.
SHE WANTED KIDS UP AND MOVING,
WHICH WAS PART OF THE GENIUS
BEHIND POLKA DOT DOOR, RIGHT?

Nancy says IT WAS, IT WAS.
THERE WERE TWO MODELS THAT THEY
HAD USED: ONE WAS PLAYSCHOOL IN
BRITAIN, THAT VERA WAS
DESPATCHED TO LOOK AT THAT AS A
MODEL.
THEN SHE WENT DOWN TO SESAME
STREET AS WELL.
WASN'T IMPRESSED THAT MUCH BY
SESAME STREET.

Steve says ALTHOUGH THEY DID OKAY.

Nancy says YES, THEY DID.
BUT SHE FELT IT WAS TOO MUCH
ROTE, TOO MUCH REPETITION.
SHE WANTED THOSE KIDS UP AND
BOUNCING AROUND AND MOVING.
AND SO THAT WAS REALLY THE
CONCEPTUAL IDEA OF POLKA DOT
DOOR.
THE OTHER THING THAT WAS SO
INTERESTING I THINK WAS... I
DON'T KNOW WHETHER YOU REMEMBER,
STEVE, FROM WATCHING IT FROM
YEARS AGO, BUT THEY WERE MASTERS
OF PROPS.
THEY COULD TAKE A KLEENEX BOX
AND MAKE IT INTO, YOU KNOW, A
TRUNK, THAT EVERYTHING WAS, SHE
SAID, CANADIAN.

Steve says LOTS OF IMAGINATION.

Nancy says LOTS OF IMAGINATION, YEAH.

Steve says AGAIN, WE HAVEN'T
TALKED AT ALL ABOUT HER PERSONAL
LIFE BECAUSE DURING ALL OF THESE
YEARS SHE IS STILL A SINGLE,
UNMARRIED WOMAN.
SHE FINALLY, AT AGE 56, GOT
MARRIED TO A POLISH EMIGRE NAMED
ANTHONY NOWAKOWSKI.

Nancy says THAT'S RIGHT.

Steve says WHICH ENDED IN TRAGEDY.

Nancy says YES.

Steve says WHAT HAPPENED?

Nancy says SHE WAS ONLY MARRIED 7 YEARS,
AND HE PASSED AWAY OF CANCER,
AND SHE SAID, WE HAD FAR TOO
SHORT A TIME.
AND ONLY MARRIED FOR 7 YEARS.
NO CHILDREN.

Steve says DID SHE EVER EXPRESS
ANY SADNESS TO YOU ABOUT NOT
BEING A MOTHER DESPITE BEING A
MOTHER, IN SOME WAYS, TO SO MANY
KIDS IN THE EDUCATION SYSTEM?

The caption changes to "Vera's personal life."

Nancy says NO, SHE DIDN'T, STEVE.
SHE DIDN'T.
SHE BECAME VERY, VERY CLOSE TO
HER FAMILY, HER NIECES AND
NEPHEWS, GREAT-NIECES AND
NEPHEWS.
I THINK PROBABLY IN HER HEART
SHE WAS, BUT IT WAS NOT AN OVERT
LONGING.
SHE DID HAVE... SHE WAS
SURROUNDED BY CHILDREN.
SHE WAS ALSO A VERY PROFESSIONAL
WOMAN WITH AMBITION TOO.
BUT, YES, IN HER HEART, I THINK
IT WAS A REGRET.

Steve says SHELDON, LET'S BRING
UP PHOTO NUMBER ONE, BECAUSE
VERA GOOD IS STILL WITH US.
THERE SHE IS.
SHE IS HOW OLD NOW?

A picture shows the elderly Vera, with curly white hair, holding up the Polkaroo doll.

Nancy says SHE IS 102.

Steve says AND LIVING WHERE?

Nancy says SHE LIVES IN SIMCOE IN A
LONG-TERM CARE.
HER BRAIN IS VERY, VERY STRONG.
SHE'S WITTY.
SHE'S FUNNY.
SHE IS BLIND.

Another picture shows Nancy sitting next to Vera in a room, as three other women stand nearby.

Steve says THAT'S HER THERE, RIGHT?

Nancy says THAT'S RIGHT.
THAT WAS THE PARTY THAT WE HAD
BEFORE THE BOOK WAS PRODUCED.
WHEN YOU'RE 102, YOU WANT TO
CELEBRATE AS MUCH AS YOU CAN,
AND I KNEW THE BOOK WOULDN'T BE
COMING OUT UNTIL THE FALL.
IT WAS FINISHED IN THE SPRING.
SO WE HAD A PARTY.

Steve says AND YOU ESSENTIALLY
DID THIS BOOK AS A RESULT OF...
WHAT WAS IT?...
50 WEEKLY CONVERSATIONS WITH HER?

Nancy says I DID.
I DROVE DOWN FROM MY HOME JUST
OUTSIDE KITCHENER-WATERLOO TO
SIMCOE, JUST OVER AN HOUR.
AND WE TALKED.
IN THE EARLY GOING, I DID GO
DOWN TWICE A WEEK WHEN YOU HAVE
A WOMAN WHO IS 100, YOU WANT TO
MAKE SURE...

Steve says ABSOLUTELY.

Nancy says AND THEN WE WROTE.
AND IT WAS ONE OF THE MOST
WONDERFUL, ENJOYABLE TIMES OF MY
WRITING CAREER.

Steve says WELL, WE'RE
ABSOLUTELY DELIGHTED THAT YOU
BROUGHT HER STORY TO THE FORE,
BECAUSE AS I SUGGESTED IN THE
INTRO, THERE ARE TOO MANY PEOPLE
WHO DON'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT VERA.
GOOD FOR YOU.
LET'S FINISH UP ON A COUPLE OF
THINGS.
WHERE CAN PEOPLE GET THIS BOOK?

The caption changes to "tvo.org/theagenda."

Nancy says PEOPLE CAN GET THIS BOOK AT
VARIOUS PLACES, IN WATERLOO AT
WORDSWORTH BOOKS, AT COLE'S.
I'M SURE OTHER COLE'S WILL BE
ABLE TO GET THE BOOK.
YOU CAN ALSO GO ONLINE.
THE BOOK IS PUBLISHED BY THE
CANADIAN MENNONITE UNIVERSITY
PRESS, AND YOU CAN GO ONLINE AND
ORDER IT THEN.
BUT PROBABLY FOR PEOPLE PERHAPS
IN THE TORONTO AREA, COLE'S...
CALL YOUR COLE'S AND I'M SURE
THEY CAN GET IT.

Steve says AND UNLIKE MOST
AUTHORS WHO ACTUALLY WANT TO
MAKE A BUCK WHEN THEY WRITE
SOMETHING, YOU AREN'T ON THIS
ONE, RIGHT?

Nancy says NO, NO.
THIS IS MY TWELFTH BOOK.
I DO NOT EVER TAKE A WRITER'S
SALARY.
I'M A PENSIONED TEACHER, SO I
MAKE DO.
BUT I USUALLY MATCH THE PROJECT
THAT I'M WORKING ON WITH THE
BOOK, AND SO THIS BOOK VERA AND
I SAT DOWN, AND SHE KNEW THAT I
WOULD NOT BE TAKING A SALARY.
AND I SAID, "VERA, WHERE DO YOU
WANT ALL THE SALES TO GO?"
AND WE DECIDED THAT IT WOULD GO
TO AN ORGANIZATION CALLED STRONG
START FOR READING, WHICH IS
IN... I THINK THERE ARE SOME
CHAPTERS IN KITCHENER-WATERLOO
AND OUTSIDE OF THE
KITCHENER-WATERLOO AREA AS WELL.
AND THESE ARE CHILDREN WHO ARE
AT RISK FOR HAVING READING
DIFFICULTIES AND THEY MATCH
PROFESSIONALS ONE ON ONE, AND
THAT'S WHERE ALL THE SALES OF
THE BOOK WILL GO.

Steve says SO SHE CONTINUES TO
HAVE A POSITIVE IMPACT ON
EDUCATION IN ONTARIO.

Nancy says AND SHE LOVES THAT.

The caption changes to "Producer: Steve Paikin, @spaikin."

Steve says GOOD STUFF.
"THE EXCEPTIONAL VERA GOOD."
THAT'S A CLEVER TITLE. A LIFE
BEYOND THE POLKA DOT DOOR.
NANCY SILCOX, WE'RE REALLY
GRATEFUL YOU CAME INTO TVO
TONIGHT. THANKS SO MUCH.

Nancy says IT WAS A LOT OF FUN. I LOVE
TALKING VERA.

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