Transcript: Preparing for Emergencies | May 04, 2016

Steve sits in the studio. He's slim, clean-shaven, in his fifties, with short curly brown hair. He's wearing a gray suit, white shirt, and gray tie. Behind him, a wall screen shows a photograph of a huge forest fire.

A caption on screen reads "Preparing for emergencies."

Steve says ICE STORMS. TORRENTIAL
RAIN AND FLOODING.
HEAT WAVES AND FOREST FIRES.
EVERY YEAR ONTARIO CITIES AND
TOWNS FACE EMERGENCIES AND
NATURAL DISASTERS.
ALLAN BONNER, AUTHOR OF "SAFER
CITIES OF THE FUTURE," GIVES US
A SENSE OF WHAT MUNICIPALITIES
HAVE TO CONSIDER IF AN
EVACUATION WERE EVER NEEDED.
LET'S HAVE A LOOK...

A clip plays on screen with the caption "Allan Bonner. Author 'Safer cities for the future.'"
In the clip, Allan stands on a bridge over a highway and speaks. He's in his fifties, clean-shaven, with short white hair. He's wearing a gray overcoat and thick gloves.

He says WHEN PEOPLE THINK OF URBAN
EVACUATION, THEY USUALLY THINK
OF A LONG, SLOW HOLIDAY WEEKEND
DRAGGING THE CAR OUT OF TOWN.
THAT'S THE WRONG THINKING.
WE SHOULD BE THINKING OF
BUMPER-TO-BUMPER, SIDE-TO-SIDE,
NOT MOVING AT ALL, GOING
NOWHERE.
ONE ACADEMIC STUDY SAYS IT MAY
TAKE 50 HOURS TO MOVE A MILLION
PEOPLE, AND WE HAVE A LOT OF
COMMUNITIES WITH NEARLY A
MILLION PEOPLE IN CANADA.
HERE'S WHAT IS ALSO GOING TO GO
WRONG: CONTRAFLOW, WHERE ALL
ROADS GO ONE WAY.

An animated map pops up showing the traffic in downtown Toronto.

Allan continues IT SOUNDS LIKE A GOOD IDEA BUT
IT ONLY CREATES 70 PERCENT MORE
CAPACITY, NOT DOUBLE.
CARS ARE ON THE SHOULDERS,
EMERGENCY VEHICLES CAN'T GET IN.
WORSE YET, THERE WILL BE NO
SERVICES ALONG THE ROAD.
NO GASOLINE.
SO CARS WILL RUN OUT OF GAS.
NO WATER AND NO FOOD SO PEOPLE
WITH DIETARY NEEDS AND MEDICAL
CONDITIONS ARE GOING TO REALLY
BE IN PERIL.
REMEMBER, SOME EVACUATION ORDERS
HAVE KILLED MORE PEOPLE THAN THE
EMERGENCY THAT CALLED FOR THE
EVACUATION.
WE'RE ON OUR OWN.
WE HAVE TO HAVE IN THE TRUNKS OF
OUR CARS FOOD AND WATER AND
ENOUGH SUPPLIES TO LAST FOR A
LONG, LONG EVACUATION.
ONE OF THE REASONS THAT U.S.
ACADEMIC STUDIES CALL EMERGENCY
PLANS FANTASY PLANS IS THE
RELIANCE ON THE PRIVATE
AUTOMOBILE.
UP TO 56 percent OF AMERICAN URBANITES
DON'T OWN ONE.
THERE MAY BE MORE CAR OWNERSHIP
IN YOUR CITY, BUT ARE THOSE CARS
RELIABLE?
WILL THEY BE FULL OF GAS?
WE'RE NOW INTO LOOKING AT
TRANSIT AS AN ALTERNATIVE.
AND ANOTHER STUDY SAYS THE WORDS
"PUBLIC TRANSIT" ARE RARELY
MENTIONED IN URBAN EMERGENCY PLANS.
STREETCARS ARE PRETTY GOOD IF
YOU HAVE THEM IN YOUR COMMUNITY.
BUT IF THEY'RE DISABLED, THEY
ARE JUST A GREAT BIG LUMP OF
IRON AND STEEL SITTING IN THE
MIDDLE OF THE ROADWAY BLOCKING
EVERYTHING IN ITS PATH.
WE'RE KIND OF ON OUR OWN WITHOUT
A CAR AND WITHOUT TRANSIT.
WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO AT LEAST
THINK ABOUT: HOW DO I WALK OUT
OF MY COMMUNITY?
HOW DO I BICYCLE OUT?
CAN I CARRY ENOUGH WATER?
AND ARE THERE ENOUGH SERVICES
ALONG THE WALKWAY TO GET ME TO SAFETY?

As he walks along a different part of the city, he says
SO WEATHER EVENTS, FLU PANDEMIC,
TERRORISM -- IF WE DO HAVE TO
EVACUATE OUR CITIES, WE MAY BE
ON FOOT, WE MAY BE ON OUR OWN.
THE ROADWAYS MAY BE CLOGGED.
THE TRANSIT WAY NOT BE ABLE TO
HANDLE OUR POPULATION.
BUT HOW MANY MILES CAN A FIT
PERSON WALK IN THE WRONG KIND OF SHOES?
WELL, NOT VERY FAR.
HOW MANY REST STATIONS DO WE
HAVE IN OUR PARK AND RAVINE
SYSTEMS?
HOW MANY WARMING HUTS?
HOW MANY DRINKING FOUNTAINS?
WE COULD RETROFIT OUR EXISTING
PARK SYSTEM WITH THIS KIND OF
AMENITY IN CASE OF EMERGENCY AND
IT WOULD REALLY PAY A DIVIDEND
IN THE RIGHT KIND OF SITUATION.

The clip ends.

Back in the studio, Steve holds up a book and says
ALLAN BONNER HAS
MADE A VERY USEFUL CONTRIBUTION
TO THIS SUBJECT: "SAFER CITIES
OF THE FUTURE."
THAT'S HIS WORK.
OKAY.
LET'S CONTINUE OUR DISCUSSION NOW.
THIS IS OBVIOUSLY NO ACADEMIC
EXERCISE FOR THOSE IN FORT
McMURRAY, ALBERTA.
JOINING US NOW TO EXPLORE THAT
AND WHAT ELSE MUNICIPALITIES
MUST INCLUDE IN THEIR EMERGENCY
PREPAREDNESS PLANS, WE WELCOME:
MIKE O'BRIEN, EMERGENCY
MANAGEMENT COORDINATOR FOR
BURLINGTON AND ALSO WITH THE
ONTARIO ASSOCIATION OF EMERGENCY MANAGERS.

Mike is in his late forties, clean-shaven, with short gray hair. He's wearing a gray suit, white shirt, and spotted blue tie.

Steve continues BARNEY OWENS IS HERE.
HE'S DIRECTOR OF RESPONSE AT THE
OFFICE OF THE FIRE MARSHAL AND
EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT.

Barney is in his sixties, with short white hair and a moustache. He's wearing a black police uniform.

Steve continues AND SHARON BAK, DISASTER
MANAGEMENT VOLUNTEER WITH THE
CANADIAN RED CROSS.
SHE IS FROM THUNDER BAY AND FLEW
ALL THE WAY TO JOIN US.
EXTRA SPECIAL THANK YOU FOR THAT.

Sharon is in her late forties, with shoulder-length wavy auburn hair and bangs. She's wearing a black blazer with a red cross pin on her lapel.

Steve continues GENTLEMEN, WE WELCOME YOU TO OUR
PROGRAM TONIGHT.
SHELDON, WITHOUT FURTHER ADO,
THIS IS WHAT'S IN THE NEWS.
LET'S RUN THESE PICTURES.

A clip filmed from inside a moving car shows a wild fires consuming a forest.

Steve continues MY GOODNESS, LOOK AT THESE
PICTURES COMING OUT OF FORT MAC,
ALBERTA, JUST ABSOLUTELY
FRIGHTENING AS PEOPLE TRY TO GET
TO SAFETY AND GET AWAY FROM
THERE.
I GUESS I WANT TO KNOW AS I LOOK
AT THESE PICTURES, MICHAEL
O'BRIEN, LET ME START WITH YOU:
OKAY, DISASTER HAS BEFALLEN.
WHO'S IN CHARGE?

The caption changes to "Mike O'Brien. City of Burlington."
Then, it changes again to "Ready for evacuation?"

Mike says WHEN YOU HAVE
AN EMERGENCY, IT'S SOMETHING
BEYOND THE CAPACITY OF THE
GOVERNMENT TO COPE OR THE
RESPONDERS TO COPE AT THE TIME.
THE WHOLE ROLE OF EMERGENCY
MANAGEMENT IS TO GET GOVERNMENT
BACK INTO A POSITION WHERE IT
CAN PROVIDE THE DAY-TO-DAY
SERVICES SO THAT THEY CAN
RESPOND AND RETURN TO A SENSE OF
NORMALCY.
THE WHOLE IDEA IS TO GET OUR
GOVERNMENT WORKING AGAIN.
THAT'S WHERE EMERGENCY
MANAGEMENT'S ROLE IS AND TO
PROVIDE DIRECTION AND
INFORMATION FOR THE COMMUNITY.

Steve says BARNEY, WHEN THEY
SAY, OKAY, THIS PERSON IS IN
CHARGE AND ORDERING THE
EVACUATIONS.
IS THAT THE PREMIER?
IS THAT THE HEAD OF THE POLICE
SERVICE IN THAT CITY?
IS IT THE HEAD OF THE
FIREFIGHTERS?
WHO'S IN CHARGE?

The caption changes to "Barney Owens. Office of the Fire Marshall and Emergency Management."

Barney says THAT'S A VERY
GOOD QUESTION, STEVE.
DEPENDING ON THE SCOPE AND SCALE
OF THE EMERGENCY DEPENDS ON WHO
THE COMMANDER WILL BE IN THESE
CASES.
AS YOU PROBABLY ARE AWARE IN
ONTARIO THERE HAVE BEEN TWO
DECLARATIONS OF EMERGENCIES,
BACK IN 2002 WITH THE BLACKOUT
AND CERTAINLY WITH S.A.R.S.
THE PREMIER HAS THE POWERS TO
DELEGATE OTHERS TO MAKE
DECISIONS AROUND WHERE THE
EVACUATIONS WILL OCCUR, WHEN
THEY WILL OCCUR, HOW THEY WILL
OCCUR, WHERE PEOPLE WILL GO TO,
AND THE IMPLICATIONS OF THAT
THAT INSURES THAT PEOPLE ARE
LOOKED AFTER SAFELY.
THERE ARE 444 MUNICIPALITIES IN
THE PROVINCE, ALL HAVE TO HAVE
EMERGENCY PLANS.
THEY WORK VERY CLOSELY TOGETHER
WITH THE PROVINCE AND OUR
FEDERAL PARTNERS TO ENSURE WE'VE
GOT THE RIGHT SWEATER KNIT, IF
YOU LIKE, TO BE SURE THAT PEOPLE
ARE CARED FOR WHEN EMERGENCIES
DO OCCUR.

Steve says THE PRIME MINISTER'S
OFFICE SENT OUT THIS TWEET
SAYING MY THOUGHTS ARE WITH
PEOPLE AFFECTED BY THE FIRE IN
FORT McMURRAY TONIGHT.
STAY SAFE AND REMEMBER TO FOLLOW
EVACUATION ORDERS.

A screenshot of the Prime Minister's tweet pops up on screen briefly.

Steve continues OKAY, SHARON.
WHEN YOU'RE PRESSED INTO DUTY,
WHOSE ORDERS ARE YOU AWAITING?

The caption changes to "Sharon Bak. Canadian Red Cross."

Sharon says WELL, WE WAIT
FOR THE MUNICIPALITY TO PROVIDE
THAT INFORMATION.
SO IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT FOR
PEOPLE TO UNDERSTAND, IN TERMS
OF PREPAREDNESS FOR THEMSELVES,
THAT THEY NEED TO LISTEN TO
RADIO, MEDIA, SOCIAL MEDIA IF
THEY'RE FOLLOWING A MUNICIPALITY
AND EMERGENCY OFFICIALS, SO THEY
CAN FOLLOW THE RULES THAT ARE
LAID OUT.

Steve says LET ME STOP YOU
RIGHT THERE.
WE TALKED ABOUT THE BLACKOUT.
WHAT IF THERE'S A BLACKOUT?
YOUR TELEVISION DOESN'T WORK.
YOUR RADIO DOESN'T WORK.
WHO HAS TRANSISTOR RADIOS
ANYMORE?

Sharon says THE KEY FOR ANY
EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT PROGRAM...
WE WORK WITH OFFICIALS LIKE
THESE TO EDUCATE THE PUBLIC AND
THOSE ARE THE THINGS THEY NEED
TO THINK ABOUT.
YOU NEED A BATTERY OPERATED
RADIO OR A WIND-UP RADIO.
DON'T RELY ON POWER.
WE NEED TO THINK OLD SCHOOL A
LITTLE BIT WHEN WE DO OUR
EMERGENCY PLANNING FOR
OURSELVES.
IF WE CAN PREPARE OURSELVES
INDIVIDUALLY, THEN THE PEOPLE
THAT ARE RESPONDING, LIKE
CANADIAN RED CROSS BUT ALSO
EMERGENCY OFFICIALS CAN THEN
FOCUS ON THE MOST VULNERABLE
PEOPLE WHO CANNOT NECESSARILY DO
THAT.
THOSE ARE THE THINGS WE NEED TO
THINK ABOUT AHEAD OF TIME.
WHICH IS WHY THINGS LIKE
EMERGENCY PREPAREDNESS WEEK ARE
SO IMPORTANT, WHICH IS THIS
WEEK, SO WE CAN HAVE PEOPLE
EDUCATED.

Steve says IT'S HORRIBLY IRONIC
THAT WE ARE IN THE MIDST OF
NATIONAL EMERGENCY PREPAREDNESS
WEEK AND HERE'S WHAT HAPPENS IN
FORT MAC.
BASED ON THINGS ACROSS THE
COUNTRY, HOW PREPARED DO YOU
THINK THEY WERE IN FORT MAC FOR
THIS KIND OF DISASTER?

Mike says THIS CAME
VERY, VERY QUICKLY.
THEY HAD PUBLIC OUTREACH WHERE
THEY ENCOURAGED THE COMMUNITY TO
PREPARE, HAVE EMERGENCY KITS,
HAVE 72 HOURS' WORTH OF FOOD AND
WATER READY TO GO.
NOT NECESSARILY EVERYBODY
FOLLOWS THIS.
AND THE GOVERNMENT OR THE LOCAL
MUNICIPALITY AND THE PROVINCE
AND THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT ALL
HAVE PLANS PREPARED AND PRACTICE
THEM AND HAVE NETWORKS BUILT,
WHICH IS INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT,
BRINGING PEOPLE TOGETHER AND
BEING ABLE TO COMMUNICATE.
SO THEY WOULD CERTAINLY BE
PREPARED FOR HAZARDS, AND FOR
THE SPECIFIC HAZARDS IN FORT
McMURRAY, WHICH OBVIOUSLY
FOREST FIRES WOULD BE ONE OF
THEM.

Steve says HOW DO YOU GET
PEOPLE OUT?
THERE ARE NO SUBWAYS OR
STREETCARS UP THERE.
HOW ARE PEOPLE GETTING OUT?

Mike says IT SEEMS
THEY'RE USING THEIR PERSONAL
TRANSPORT PLUS THERE'S A CERTAIN
LEVEL OF PUBLIC TRANSPORT THERE
AS WELL.
IN MOST PLACES, IF YOU HAVE A
SOCIAL NETWORK, IF YOU HAVE SOME
FORM OF TRANSPORT, IF YOU HAVE A
KIT OF SOME SORT, YOU'RE
PROBABLY GOING TO BE OKAY.
YOU'RE PROBABLY GOING TO BE ABLE
TO MAKE IT OUT OF A DISASTER.
IT'S THE PEOPLE WHO REQUIRE
GOVERNMENT ASSISTANCE ON A
DAY-TO-DAY BASIS ARE THE ONES
THAT REQUIRE HELP THE MOST
DURING AN EMERGENCY.

Steve says THEY'RE THE MOST
VULNERABLE.

Mike says YOU'RE
TALKING 5 percent OF YOUR POPULATION.
IT'S STILL A SIGNIFICANT NUMBER.
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THE
MUNICIPALITY SHOULD BE DOING IS
SUPPORTING THE RED CROSS AND
SOCIAL SERVICE AGENCIES TO HELP
THESE PEOPLE EVACUATE.

Steve says BARNEY, LET ME PUT
THIS TO YOU BECAUSE CBC SPOKE TO
A RESIDENT OF FORT MAC WHO HAD THIS TO SAY.

A quote appears on screen, on a picture of flames, under the title "Total chaos." The quote reads "WE'RE ON A DIVIDED HIGHWAY AND PEOPLE are going over on the wrong side of the highway and driving against traffic to try to get down. It's just total chaos and pandemonium."
Verna Murphy, as quoted in CBC.ca, Ma 4, 2016.

Steve says THIS PERSON SAID IT
TOOK AN HOUR TO COVER 2 KILOMETRES.
IN THE VIDEO WITH ALLAN BONNER
THAT WE SAW JUST BEFORE OUR
CONVERSATION HERE, HE BROUGHT UP
THIS IDEA OF CONTRAFLOW ON THE
HIGHWAYS, WHERE OBVIOUSLY
EVERYTHING HEADS OUT AS OPPOSED
TO IN TWO DIRECTIONS.
DO YOU THINK FORT MAC WOULD HAVE
IMPLEMENTED THAT CONTRAFLOW?

Barney says I'M NOT SURE.
I DON'T BELIEVE THEY PROBABLY
WOULD HAVE JUST BY THE NATURE OF
THE HIGHWAYS THAT FEED AND
SUPPORT THAT COMMUNITY.
THERE WAS PROBABLY AN INTENT TO
TRY AND DO THAT.
CONTRAFLOW IS GENERALLY THE SORT
OF THING YOU WOULD DO WITH LARGE
URBAN CENTRES WHERE YOU HAVE
FOUR TO SIX LANES ON BOTH SIDES
OF THE HIGHWAY THAT YOU TURN
AROUND, ESSENTIALLY, TO HAVE
RESIDENTS MOVE QUICKLY AND
EFFICIENTLY OUT OF A PARTICULAR AREA.

Steve says LET'S ASSUME THAT'S
THE 401, ACROSS THE TOP OF TORONTO.
YOU COULD DO CONTRAFLOW?

Barney says YOU COULD
DEFINITELY DO CONTRAFLOW.

Steve says 16 LANES GOING IN
THE SAME DIRECTION?

Barney says IT WOULDN'T
NECESSARILY BE 16 LANES BUT 13
OR 14 LANES WHERE YOU HAVE A
COUPLE OF LANES FOR EMERGENCY
VEHICLES AND SUPPORT AND SUPPLY.
IT'S BEEN TRIED.
IT'S BEEN TESTED.

Steve says IT HAS?

Barney says IN FACT IT
DOES WORK.

Steve says WHEN?
HOW DID I MISS THAT?

Barney says A NUMBER OF
YEARS AGO IT WAS GIVEN AN
OPPORTUNITY TO TEST IT OUT WHEN
PEOPLE WEREN'T USING THE
HIGHWAYS AND A LITTLE QUIETER
TIMES.

Steve says WHEN IS THAT?
IT MUST BE 3:00 IN THE MORNING?

Barney says PRETTY MUCH.
WHEN THEY DO CLOSE THE HIGHWAYS DOWN.
THERE IS AN OPPORTUNITY TO
ACTUALLY DO THOSE KINDS OF
THINGS AND DO MAKE THEM WORK.
I MUST SAY, AND IT GETS BACK TO
MIKE'S COMMENT EARLIER, IS THAT
PLANNING AND PREPARATION IN
ADVANCE OF AN EMERGENCY IS
ABSOLUTELY KEY.
WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT MOVING
HIGHWAYS AROUND, TURNING THE
DIRECTION OF HIGHWAYS AROUND, IT
MEANS CLOSE COLLABORATION WITH
THE POLICE JURISDICTIONS, THE
ONTARIO PROVINCIAL POLICE IN
ONTARIO, AND THE COMMUNITIES
INVOLVED AND ARE PARTICIPATING
IN THAT.
THE TIME TO DO IT AND TIME TO
PLAN THOSE THINGS IS MUCH BEFORE
THE EVENT.
YOU DON'T WANT TO BE HANDING OUT
YOUR BUSINESS CARDS DURING AN
EMERGENCY.
IT'S TIME TO PLAN AND PREPARE
THOSE KINDS OF CONSIDERATIONS
GOING FORWARD.
I GUESS THE LAST THING I WOULD
SAY IS THAT EACH PLAN AND EACH
EVENT IS DIFFERENT, AND SO YOU
NEED TO BE SCALABLE IN TERMS OF
THE KIND OF RESPONSE AND
PARTICULARLY WITH EVACUATIONS
HOW YOU MOVE PEOPLE OUT OF
VARIOUS COMMUNITIES IN A GIVEN
PERIOD.
IT DOES TAKE TIME.

Steve says LET ME EXPLORE THAT
A BIT, SHARON.
OBVIOUSLY IN ALBERTA THEY'RE IN
THE MIDST OF A FOREST FIRE NOW.
WHAT ARE THE OTHER REASONS YOU
HAVE EITHER EXPERIENCE WITH OR
HAVE HEARD ABOUT WHY A TOWN OR A
CITY WOULD NEED TO BE EVACUATED?

Sharon says A NUMBER OF THINGS.
OBVIOUSLY FIRE IS ONE OF THE
MOST FAST MOVING ONES.
THERE COULD BE POTENTIALLY
FLOODING.
HAZARDOUS MATERIALS.
WE HAVE FREIGHT TRAINS,
ET CETERA, THAT ROLL THROUGH
MANY OF OUR TOWNS IN NORTHERN
ONTARIO.

Steve says MISSISSAUGA TRAIN
DERAILMENT, AN EXAMPLE OF THAT,
1978, '79.

Sharon says A LOT OF PEOPLE
HAD TO BE EVACUATED.
IT CAN HAPPEN VERY QUICKLY IN
FAST-MOVING CIRCUMSTANCES.
IT'S NOT JUST FIRES.

Steve says WHAT ABOUT SMALLER
TOWNS; DO THEY EVER NEED TO BE
EVACUATED?

Sharon says YES AND NO.
WE MIGHT SEE SOMETHING LIKE THE
THUNDER BAY FLOODS WHERE IT WAS
A HUGE EMERGENCY FOR US IN
THUNDER BAY BUT PEOPLE WERE
STILL IN THEIR HOMES TRYING TO
FIX THEIR HOMES AND THEIR HOMES
WERE FLOODED INSIDE.
SO IT'S AN EMERGENCY.
WE DID OPERATE A SHELTER.
MOST PEOPLE ENDED UP WE HAD TO
GO DOOR-TO-DOOR TO SUPPORT THEM
BECAUSE THEY WERE IN THEIR
HOMES.
IT'S NOT ONLY THE EVACUATION
OUT.
IT'S ALSO PREPARING FOR BEING AT
HOME WITHOUT POWER AND WITHOUT
FOOD AND WATER.

Barney says SIMILARLY IN
ONTARIO, IN 2012, WE HAD
SOMEWHAT SIMILAR CIRCUMSTANCES
TO WHAT ARE OCCURRING NOW IN
ALBERTA WHERE THE CITY OF
TIMMINS AND THE CITY OF KIRKLAND
LAKE WERE BOTH RELATIVELY
THREATENED BY FOREST FIRES.
THANK GOODNESS WE DODGED A
BULLET AND THE WIND WENT THE
OTHER WAY.
BUT THERE WERE PLANS IN PLACE TO
POTENTIALLY HAVE TO MOVE PEOPLE
OUT OF THOSE COMMUNITIES FURTHER
SOUTH SO THEY WOULDN'T BE IN
HARM'S WAY.

Steve says WHAT ABOUT
INDIGENOUS RESERVES WHERE...
YOU'VE NOT ONLY GOT THE ISSUE OF
SAFETY BUT YOU'VE GOT THE ISSUE
OF GOVERNANCE AND, YOU KNOW,
THEY MAY NOT WANT THE SO-CALLED
WHITE AUTHORITIES TELLING THEM
WHAT TO DO.
HOW DO YOU HANDLE THOSE
CIRCUMSTANCES?

The caption changes to "Sharon Bak. @SDBak"

Sharon says FOR US WITH THE
SERVICES WE PROVIDE, IT'S REALLY
ABOUT JUST TAKING CARE OF THE
PEOPLE.
THOSE DECISIONS ARE MADE AT A
MUCH HIGHER LEVEL.
WE DEFINITELY SEE THE STRESS ON
PEOPLE.
RIGHT NOW WE'RE DEALING WITH THE
EVACUATION ALONG THE JAMES BAY
COAST.
WE HAVE PEOPLE IN THUNDER BAY
RIGHT NOW.
YOU CAN SEE THE STRESS AND
TENSION ON THEM.
PART OF OUR JOB IS TO ASSESS
THEIR NEEDS AND PROVIDE
ADDITIONAL SUPPORT IF NEEDED.
THEY UNFORTUNATELY HAVE BEEN
COMING OUT YEAR AFTER YEAR AND
IT'S GETTING TO BE VERY
STRESSFUL FOR THEM TO BE DOING
THIS ON AN ANNUAL BASIS.

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Steve says I PRESUME THEY WOULD
WANT TO SEE INDIGENOUS FIGURES
IN POSITIONS OF AUTHORITY
LEADING THE WAY AND OFFERING THE
INFORMATION ON WHAT THEY'RE
SUPPOSED TO DO.
IS THAT POSSIBLE?

Sharon says IT IS POSSIBLE
AND A LOT OF THE WORK WE DO, AND
I KNOW A LOT OF THE OTHER PEOPLE
AT THIS TABLE DO, IS
PARTNERSHIPS AND DISCUSSIONS
AHEAD OF TIME.
AGAIN, IT ALL GOES BACK TO
PREPAREDNESS.
WE'RE IN THOSE COMMUNITIES.
THE RED CROSS IS IN THOSE
COMMUNITIES AHEAD OF TIME
LOOKING AT DISASTER PREPAREDNESS
AND VIOLENCE PREVENTION.
WE'RE ALREADY IN THERE.
WHEN THEY SEE US, ESPECIALLY
WHEN THEY COME IN THUNDER BAY
AND OTHER HOST COMMUNITIES, THEY
RECOGNIZE US AS PEOPLE THERE TO
HELP AND TO SUPPORT.
IT GOES BACK TO THAT
PREPAREDNESS PIECE ALL THE TIME.

Steve says LET ME PICK UP ON
THAT.
MIKE, IN THIS BOOK "SAFER CITIES
OF THE FUTURE," ALLAN BONNER
SUGGESTS WE ARE WOEFULLY,
PATHETICALLY UNREADY FOR ANY
DISASTER OF SIGNIFICANCE ALL
OVER THIS PROVINCE.
YES OR NO?

The caption changes to "The best laid plans."

Mike says I COMPLETELY
DISAGREE WITH HIM.
I THINK WE ARE VERY
WELL-PREPARED, CERTAINLY IN
RESPONSE, THE GOVERNMENT LEVEL,
I THINK MOST PEOPLE ARE PREPARED
AT HOME.
ABOUT 50 percent OF PEOPLE IN THE
PROVINCE SAY THEY HAVE AN
EMERGENCY KIT.

Steve says DO YOU THINK THEY'RE
TELLING THE TRUTH?

Mike says I HOPE
THEY'RE TELLING THE TRUTH.

Steve says YOU HOPE.
YOU KNOW BETTER THOUGH, MIKE.
YOU KNOW PEOPLE DON'T HAVE 72
HOURS OF FOOD AND WATER STANDING
AROUND...

Mike says I THINK WE
HAVE MOST OF THE CONTENTS.
WE MAY NOT NECESSARILY HAVE IT
IN A BAG BY THE DOOR.
PROBABLY JUST AS IMPORTANT, MOST
OF US HAVE A SOCIAL NETWORK AND
THAT IS INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT AND
IT'S SOMETHING THAT'S NOT
NECESSARILY MENTIONED IN PLANS.
IT'S THE PART WHERE THE
COMMUNITY -- AND IN AN
EMERGENCY, THE COMMUNITY IS THE
FIRST RESPONSE.
THEY ARE THERE BEFORE
RESPONDERS.
THERE'S ONLY SO MANY POLICE,
FIRE, E.M.S.
AND LIKE I SAID, THERE'S A
SIGNIFICANT PERCENTAGE OF THE
COMMUNITY WHO REQUIRE HELP ON A
DAY-TO-DAY BASIS.
SO WE EXPECT PEOPLE TO HELP
THEIR NEIGHBOURS, AND THOSE WHO
MAY NOT NECESSARILY HAVE, OR
EVEN BE ABLE TO AFFORD 72 HOURS'
WORTH OF FOOD, THAT PEOPLE CHECK
UP ON THEM.
PEOPLE CHECK UP ON PEOPLE WITH
MOBILITY ISSUES, PEOPLE CHECK UP
WITH PEOPLE THAT MAY NOT
NECESSARILY BE SOCIALLY
ISOLATED...

Steve says I'VE GOT TO TELL
YOU, I HAVE NO DOUBT -- NO
DOUBT -- BUT THAT THAT WOULD
HAPPEN.
WE REMEMBER THE BLACKOUT IN THIS
CITY IN '02 AND '03.
PEOPLE DID DO THAT,
ESPECIALLY IF YOU WERE A SENIOR
LIVING IN AN APARTMENT BUILDING
AND OBVIOUSLY HAVING DIFFICULTY
WITH THE ELEVATORS NOT WORKING,
PEOPLE DID HELP.
HOWEVER, BARNEY, I'M TRYING TO
FIGURE OUT, THERE ARE TWO AND A
HALF MILLION PEOPLE IN THE
CAPITAL CITY OF ONTARIO
OFFICIALLY AND FIVE AND A HALF
MILLION IF YOU WANT TO INCLUDE
THE ENVIRONS.
IF A TRAIN DERAILS SPEWING
DANGEROUS CHEMICALS RIGHT IN THE
CAPITAL CITY AND IT WAS
DETERMINED THAT WE HAD TO GET
EVERYBODY OUT OF HERE WHILE THEY
CLEANED IT UP, HOW IN HEAVEN'S
NAME WOULD YOU DO THAT?

Barney says I GUESS WHAT
IT REALLY COMES DOWN TO IS WE DO
OUR LOCAL PLANNING AT THE
MUNICIPAL LEVEL.
BEING PREPARED AT THE INDIVIDUAL
LEVEL FOR A 72-HOUR PERIOD.
WE HAVE PROVINCIALLY PLANS IN
PLACE TO SUPPORT THE
MUNICIPALITIES WHEN IT COMES TO
MAJOR AND SIGNIFICANT EVENTS
LIKE THAT.
WE HAVE OUR PARTNERS AT THE
FEDERAL LEVEL THAT WOULD WORK
WITH US.
WE WOULD INVOKE AN EVACUATION,
OF COURSE, DEPENDING ON THE
NATURE OF THE EVENT, IN THIS
CASE YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT A
TRAIN DERAILMENT.
USE ALL THE ASSETS AVAILABLE TO
US IN TERMS OF TRANSPORTING
PEOPLE OUT OF THE CAPITAL TO
LOCATIONS BEYOND THAT PERIMETER,
AND USE PUBLIC TRANSIT, PERSONAL
TRANSIT, OTHER MECHANISMS, AIR
WHEN WE CAN, TO ENSURE THAT THEY
DO GET OUT.
I THINK THE POINT TO THE PUBLIC,
THOUGH, IS IT DOES TAKE TIME.
YOU CAN'T FLIP THE SWITCH AND
IMMEDIATELY PEOPLE GET OUT OF
THE AREA.
YOU HAVE TO BE PREPARED IN
ADVANCE TO LEAVE, BASED ON THE
THINGS WE JUST SPOKE ABOUT.
ENSURE YOU KNOW WHAT YOUR
MUNICIPAL PLANS ARE AND IN AN
EVACUATION SITUATION LIKE THIS
WHAT YOU MIGHT WANT TO DO...

Steve says IF YOU NEED TO GET
TWO AND A HALF MILLION PEOPLE
OUT OF THE CITY OF TORONTO
BECAUSE OF A DERAILMENT, WHERE
WOULD YOU PUT THEM ALL?

Barney says THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION.

Steve says THAT'S WHY I ASKED.

Barney says I'M SURE YOU DID.
WE WOULD LOOK TO OTHER CITIES.
WE WOULD LOOK TO OTHER CITIES
WITHIN ONTARIO TO ASSIST AND GO
FAR AND WIDE FOR THAT.
WE HAVE MUTUAL AID AGREEMENTS
AND ARRANGEMENTS WITH OUR BORDER
STATES, NEW YORK STATE,
MICHIGAN, MINNESOTA.
IF WE HAD TO GO NORTH, WE WOULD
GO NORTH.
IT'S APPLYING AND USING EVERY
ASSET THAT YOU WOULD NEED TO PUT
IN PLACE TO RESPOND TO THAT
NUMBER OF PEOPLE AND ENSURE THAT
THEY'RE SAFE.
WE HAVEN'T HAD THE EXPERIENCE.
THAT'S A GOOD THING.
BUT WE NEED TO BE PREPARED AS WE
CAN FOR ANY MAJOR EVENT.

Steve says I SHOULD CLARIFY,
MIKE, ALLAN BONNER IN HIS BOOK
SAYS BURLINGTON'S DOING VERY WELL.

Mike says OH.

Steve says HE DOESN'T HAVE ANY
ISSUE WITH YOU.
HAVING SAID THAT, HOW MANY
PEOPLE REPRESENT EMERGENCY
PREPAREDNESS IN THE OFFICE IN
BURLINGTON?

Mike says ME.

Steve says I'M LOOKING AT IT, RIGHT?

Mike says THE THING IS
I HAVE A TEAM THAT I WORK WITH
OF -- RIGHT FROM ACROSS THE
MUNICIPALITY, FROM THE RED CROSS
TO OUR CONSERVATION AUTHORITY TO
OUR FIRST RESPONDERS TO OUR
UTILITIES.
AND I FACILITATE THEM.
THEY ARE THE PEOPLE WHO ARE
GOING TO SOLVE THIS PROBLEM.
NOT ME.
I FACILITATE.
I GET THEM TO A POINT WHERE WE
HAVE REGULAR PEOPLE DOING THEIR
EVERYDAY JOBS UNDER
EXTRAORDINARY CIRCUMSTANCES.
AND THEY'RE GOOD AT IT.

Steve says LET'S DO A REAL-LIFE
EXAMPLE HERE.
THREE YEARS AGO, WE HAD AN ICE
STORM, AND YOU FOUND YOURSELF IN
BURLINGTON WITH -- WHAT? -- A
COUPLE HUNDRED THOUSAND, 300,000
WITHOUT ELECTRICITY?

Mike says I WOULDN'T
WORKING THERE AT THE TIME BUT I
DO, YES.

Steve says HOW DID THEY RESPOND?

Mike says ONE OF THE
THINGS WE DO IS WE OPEN
COMMUNITY CENTRES.
WE HAVE GENERATORS AROUND THE
CITY SO THAT WE CAN OFFER A
COMMUNITY HUB WHERE PEOPLE CAN
GO GET A COFFEE, LET THEIR KIDS
RUN AROUND FOR A WHILE, WHERE
YOU CAN GET INFORMATION.
WE ENCOURAGE COMMUNITY GROUPS,
SUCH AS CHURCHES, TO CHECK UP ON
THEIR MEMBERS AND SENIORS.
WE ENCOURAGE PEOPLE -- AND YOU
BASICALLY, DURING AN EMERGENCY,
YOU GO TO THE SOURCE OF
INFORMATION THAT YOU USE ON A
DAY-TO-DAY BASIS.
SO IF YOU'RE A RADIO PERSON OR A
TWITTER PERSON OR ONE OF YOUR
SIBLINGS OR YOUR PARENTS NEEDS
TO TALK TO YOU BECAUSE THEIR
ENGLISH MAY NOT BE THAT GREAT,
THAT'S HOW PEOPLE COMMUNICATE,
AND WE TRY TO GET OUT ON AS MANY
PLATFORMS AS POSSIBLE
INFORMATION ON -- YOU CAN COME
HERE TO GET WARM, YOU CAN COME
HERE TO GET INFORMATION, YOU CAN
COME HERE FOR A SHOWER.
SO WE DO HAVE THAT CAPABILITY
WITHIN OUR MUNICIPALITY, AND
MOST DO.
SOMETIMES COMMUNICATION CAN BE
DIFFICULT.
THERE'S ONLY -- WE DON'T HAVE
ANY MIRACLES.
WE DON'T HAVE A BIG BINDER WITH
ALL THESE FANTASTIC PLAYS IN IT.
THE WHOLE IDEA IS TO GET BACK TO
NORMAL AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE.

Steve says GET BACK TO NORMAL.
I DON'T WANT TO EXAGGERATE THIS
BUT, SHARON, IT FEELS LIKE A LOT
OF THIS IS (a) LET'S HOPE THIS
NEVER HAPPENS; (b), IF IT DOES
LET'S CROSS OUR FINGERS.
THERE'S A LOT OF THAT THAT GOES
ON HERE, RIGHT?
LET'S HOPE WE GET LUCKY.

Sharon says I THINK THERE IS.
I CAN'T EXPRESS ENOUGH HOW MUCH
WORK HAS GONE INTO EMERGENCY
MANAGEMENT-WISE AND EVEN JUST
WITH OUR INTERNAL RED CROSS.
I'VE BEEN WITH THEM 15 YEARS.
THE SHIFT AND THE CHANGE IN THE
PRE-PLANNING, THE PREPAREDNESS
THAT I'VE SEEN, BOTH
INDIVIDUALLY AND WITH
MUNICIPALITIES, HAS BEEN HUGE.
AND I THINK WE SAW THAT AFTER
THE BIG EVENTS LIKE 9-11 AND
THINGS LIKE THAT.
THAT REALLY SPURRED THOSE
CONVERSATIONS AND THE NEED FOR IT.
SO I'M SEEING -- I'M VERY MUCH
MORE HOPEFUL GOING FORWARD.
I THINK, THOUGH, AGAIN, THERE
ARE THINGS THAT ARE JUST GOING
TO COME UP.
I ALWAYS SAY IT'S ABOUT MAKING
ORDER OUT OF CHAOS.
WE START WITH CHAOS AND THEN
MAKE ORDER OUT OF IT.
WE START WITH OUR PLANS, WE HAVE
WHAT'S IN PLACE, AND WE WORK AS
QUICK AS WE CAN TO NORMALIZE THE
SITUATION, STABILIZE THE
SITUATION FOR THE PEOPLE
AFFECTED.

Steve says LET ME BRING UP
ALLAN BONNER'S NAME ONE MORE TIME.
HE CONTACTED 100
ENGLISH-SPEAKING CITIES TO
REVIEW THEIR EMERGENCY PLANS,
AND HERE IS WHAT HE FOUND...

Another quote from Allan's report appears on screen, under the title "What's the plan?" The quote reads "Twelve out of the 100 cities have deficient plans. This means that my researchers can't easily find a plan, it's secret or it doesn't exist. The effect is the same –a secret, hard to find or non-existent plan provides no guidance for residents and businesses looking for help."

Steve says BARNEY, THAT'S
PROBLEMATIC, ISN'T IT?

Barney says IT CERTAINLY IS.
TO THE EXTENT THAT THAT COMMENT
IS MADE, IT KIND OF REALLY GETS
TO THE POINT OF ENSURING THAT
ALL OF THE MUNICIPALITIES IN
ONTARIO ARE REQUIRED BY
LEGISLATION, THE EMERGENCY
MANAGEMENT CIVIL PROTECTION ACT,
TO IN FACT PUBLISH THEIR PLANS.

Steve says DO THEY DO THAT?

Barney says THEY DO.
IT'S PART OF THE COMPLIANCE
REQUIREMENTS FOR ONTARIO AND FOR
THE MUNICIPALITIES ON AN ANNUAL
BASIS.

Steve says IS IT IN ENGLISH?

Barney says YES, IT IS.

Steve says WHEN I SAY THAT, I'M
BEING FACETIOUS, THAT PEOPLE
CAN'T UNDERSTAND IT?

Barney says IT'S PRETTY
EASY TO READ AND I THINK IS
INFORMATIVE FOR THE GENERAL
PUBLIC IN TERMS OF WHAT THEY CAN
EXPECT FROM THE MUNICIPALITY AND
ALSO WHAT THEY CANNOT EXPECT
FROM THE MUNICIPALITY, BECAUSE I
THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT AS WELL.

Steve says ALLAN SAID, HE
LOOKED AT SOME OF THIS STUFF AND
HE DISCOVERED SOME OF THE PLANS
ARE WRITTEN IN CONFUSING
BUREAUCRATIC JARGON WITH LOTS OF
ACRONYMS AND IF YOU WEREN'T HIP
TO THE LINGO, IT WOULD BE BAFFLING.

Barney says EMERGENCY
MANAGEMENT HAS CERTAINLY GOT ITS
LONG LIST OF ACRONYMS.
THERE'S NO QUESTION ABOUT THAT.
I THINK WHAT WE'RE REALLY TRYING
TO DO AS WE MOVE FORWARD, AND I
THINK AS SHARON MENTIONED, IS TO
CHANGE THE FACE OF EMERGENCY
MANAGEMENT ONTARIO THAT'S MORE
INDIVIDUAL, ONTARIO-FRIENDLY IN
TERMS OF CITIZENS SO THEY KNOW
WHAT'S GOING TO OCCUR SO THEY
CAN BE PREPARED FOR IT SO THAT
WHEN THEY DO GET ALERTS AROUND
EMERGENCIES THAT ARE OCCURRING,
WHETHER IT'S THROUGH ALERT
READY, WHICH IS A NATIONAL
PROGRAM, OR WHETHER IT'S AT THE
LOCAL LEVEL WHERE WE'RE SENDING
OUT FEEDS TO SAY THIS IS WHAT
HAS OCCURRED AND THIS IS WHAT
YOU SHOULD BE DOING, IT'S IN
PLAIN LANGUAGE AND A
MULTIPLICITY OF LANGUAGES, SO
NEWCOMERS TO THE COUNTRY ARE
AWARE WHAT'S OCCURRING AS WELL.
IN THE ICE STORM THAT WE
REFERRED TO JUST IN 2013, ONE OF
THE THINGS THAT OUR PREMIER WAS
CONCERNED ABOUT WAS THE
VULNERABLE PEOPLE AND HOW DO WE
GET TO THOSE PEOPLE?
HOW DO WE TALK TO THEM ABOUT
WHAT THEY NEED TO DO?
I THINK AS FOLKS ON THE PANEL
MENTIONED, UTILIZING THE FAITH
GROUPS, UTILIZING THE
ORGANIZATIONS THAT WE DEAL WITH
EVERY SINGLE DAY...

Steve says IT'S ALL HANDS ON DECK.

Barney says FOR SURE.
IT GOES A LONG WAY TO ENSURE
THAT PEOPLE, YOU KNOW...

Steve says MIKE, LET'S PICK UP ON THIS.
YOU TOLD US YOU ARE THE ONLY
PERSON IN THE BURLINGTON OFFICE
BUT YOU'RE WITH THE ASSOCIATION
OF EMERGENCY MANAGERS SO YOU
KNOW HOW THIS WORKS ACROSS
ONTARIO.
THERE ARE HOW MANY
MUNICIPALITIES IN THE PROVINCE,
444, SOMETHING LIKE THAT?
I PRESUME LOTS HAVE NOBODY AT
ALL ON THIS FILE.
IS THAT FAIR TO SAY?

The caption changes to "Mike O'Brien. City of Burlington. @OAEM_Online"

Mike says NO, NO.
CERTAINLY ALL MUNICIPALITIES ARE
NOT CREATED EQUAL.
THE LARGER CITIES HAVE LARGE
NUMBERS OF PEOPLE DOING THIS.
WHEN YOU GET TO THE SMALLER
COMMUNITIES, IT'S USUALLY
SOMEBODY DOING IT PART TIME
BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE
FULL-TIME EMPLOYEES.
THEY HAVE A VOLUNTEER FIRE
DEPARTMENT.
THESE ARE THE ONLY FULL-TIME
EMERGENCY RESPONSE PERSON IN
THAT MUNICIPALITY IS THE FIRE
CHIEF AND MAYBE THE DEPUTY, AND
ONE OF THEM IS GOING TO BE THE
EMERGENCY MANAGER FOR THE CITY.
OR TOWN.
SO WE HAVE ONE IN EVERY
MUNICIPALITY.
WE HAVE A PLAN IN EVERY
MUNICIPALITY.
AND I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS
THAT IS MISLEADING ABOUT ALLAN'S
INFORMATION IS THAT FOR THE MOST
PART THESE PLANS ARE DESIGNED TO
EXPLAIN HOW GOVERNMENT COMES
TOGETHER DURING AN EMERGENCY,
WHICH IS VERY DISTINCT FROM THE
INFORMATION, FOR EXAMPLE, ON THE
CITY OF BURLINGTON WEBSITE THAT
HELPS PEOPLE UNDERSTAND, THIS IS
HOW YOU PREPARE AND THESE ARE
SOME OF THE THINGS YOU NEED TO
DO.
WE LOOK AT THE RISKS IN
BURLINGTON.
WE HAD OUR FLOOD.
WE'VE HAD A DERAILMENT.
WE HAVE ICE STORMS.
SO WE GIVE PEOPLE -- THESE ARE
SOME OF THE SPECIFIC THINGS THAT
WE ENCOURAGE YOU TO DO BEFORE,
DURING, AND AFTER ONE OF THESE
RISKS OR HAZARDS.

Steve says IS IT PROBLEMATIC,
IN YOUR VIEW -- BURLINGTON AS AN
EXAMPLE, YOU, WHERE YOU ARE THE
GUY WHO ACTUALLY IS FOCUSED FULL
TIME ON THIS.
BUT YOU'VE JUST TOLD US, THERE
WOULD BE MANY MUNICIPALITIES
WHERE THE POLICE CHIEF, THE FIRE
CHIEF -- THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO
HAVE DIFFUSE RESPONSIBILITIES ON
THIS BUT THERE ISN'T A DEDICATED
PERSON TO DEAL WITH THIS ISSUE.
IS THAT PROBLEMATIC?

Mike says IT IS.
VERY MUCH SO.
ONE OF THE ISSUES IS THAT A LOT
OF OUR LEGISLATION DOES NOT
NECESSARILY INSTRUCT PEOPLE TO
HAVE FULL-TIME PEOPLE DOING
THESE JOBS OR WHAT LEVEL OF
QUALIFICATIONS OR HAVE AN
ENFORCEABLE LEVEL OF
PREPAREDNESS EITHER.
THERE ARE SPECIFIC THINGS THAT
EVERY MUNICIPALITY MUST MEET
EVERY YEAR.
BUT IT'S THE SAME LIST FOR THE
CITY OF TORONTO AS A
MUNICIPALITY OF 5,000 PEOPLE.

Steve says LET ME GO TO SHARON
ON THAT.
WHAT HAVE YOU LEARNED?
DEALING WITH PROBLEMS OVER THE
YEARS, WHAT ARE THE KEY THINGS
THAT YOU'VE TAKEN AWAY FROM
THOSE THAT YOU CAN APPLY GOING
FORWARD IF YOU EVER NEED THAT
KIND OF KNOWLEDGE AGAIN?

The caption changes to "Learning Experiences."

Sharon says I THINK THE
BIGGEST THING I LEARNED IS THAT
WE CANNOT NECESSARILY RELY ON
ANYBODY BUT OURSELVES TO TAKE
CARE OF OURSELVES WHEN AN
EMERGENCY HAPPENS.
THAT IS THE BIG, BIG PIECE I'VE
LEARNED.

Steve says THE CAVALRY COMING
OVER THE HILL.

Sharon says NO.
WE HAVE TO FOCUS ON THE MOST
VULNERABLE.
SO IF YOU HAVE THE CAPACITY,
MENTALLY, FINANCIALLY,
PHYSICALLY, ET CETERA, TO TAKE
CARE OF YOURSELF FOR THOSE FIRST
72 HOURS, IT'S GOING TO ALLOW
ALL OF US TO DO OUR WORK
TOGETHER.
IT IS MORE AN INCONVENIENCE FOR
THOSE PEOPLE THAN AN EMERGENCY.
IF THEY CAN TAKE CARE OF
THEMSELVES FOR THAT PERIOD OF
TIME, THAT EASES THE BURDEN ON
THE WHOLE SYSTEM.

Barney says TO SHARON'S
POINT, IT'S NOT UNLIKE FIRE
SERVICES AND FIRE SERVICES
RESPONDING WHEN A FIRE DOES
OCCUR IN YOUR HOME.
YOU NEED TO BE THINKING ABOUT
WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO DO AS AN
INDIVIDUAL TO GET OUT OF YOUR
HOUSE, TO HAVE A FIRE PLAN FOR
YOU AND YOUR FAMILY SO THAT THEY
KNOW HOW TO GET OUT, AND ONCE
THEY'RE OUT, TO STAY OUT, AND
WHERE THEY CAN BE SO THEY CAN
GATHER TOGETHER.
SMOKE ALARMS AND SMOKE DETECTORS
ARE WORKING, AS YOUR CO
DETECTORS ARE WORKING.
KNOW WHAT YOUR FIRE DEPARTMENT
CAN DO AND WHEN THEY CAN BE
THERE.
OUR MESSAGE IS DO WHAT YOU CAN
BEFORE THE FIRE SERVICE ARRIVES
AND DON'T WAIT FOR THE FIRE
SERVICES TO ARRIVE TO SAVE YOUR
LIFE.
THEY DO FABULOUS WORK AND IT
GOES BACK TO THE SAME CONCEPTS
WITH EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT: BE
PREPARED INDIVIDUALLY.
IF YOU'RE PREPARED INDIVIDUALLY,
THAT GOES A LONG WAY TO ENSURE
YOU'LL BE SAFE WITH ALL OF THE
OTHER PLANS, THE MUNICIPAL,
PROVINCIAL, FEDERAL PLANS THAT
SUPPORT CITIZENS OF THE
PROVINCE.

Steve says I REMEMBER THE
COMMERCIALS BACK IN THE DAY THAT
SAID YOU ARE YOUR OWN LIQUOR
CONTROL BOARD.
THIS IS ONE OF THOSE CASES WHERE
YOU ARE YOUR OWN EMERGENCY
PREPAREDNESS OFFICER.

Barney says ABSOLUTELY.
BEYOND THE CASE FOR SURE.
GOOD POINT.

Steve says LAST 30 SECONDS, MIKE.

The caption changes to "An ounce of prevention."

Mike says EMERGENCY
MANAGEMENT IS A CULTURE, MUCH
MORE THAN A SERVICE.
THERE ARE CERTAIN SERVICES WE
PROVIDE.
WE PROVIDE INFORMATION.
WE BRING GOVERNMENT TOGETHER FOR
EMERGENCIES.
BUT IT'S A CULTURE.
IT'S A CULTURE OF PREPAREDNESS
IN YOUR HOME, IN YOUR STREET,
COMMUNITY, CITY, AND EVEN IN
YOUR WORKPLACE.
AND THIS IS THE WAY PEOPLE HAVE
TO THINK OF EMERGENCY
PREPAREDNESS, IS THAT THE ONUS
IS ON YOU TO PREPARE FOR AN
EMERGENCY, WHETHER IT'S A SMALL
THING LIKE YOUR HOME OR IT'S
YOUR WHOLE COMMUNITY.

The caption changes to "Producer: Cara Stern, @carastern"

Steve says I WANT TO THANK THE
THREE OF YOU FOR COMING IN AND
RAISING AWARENESS AND ALLAN
BONNER IN THAT PIECE EARLIER,
"SAFER CITIES OF THE FUTURE."
MIKE O'BRIEN FROM BURLINGTON,
SHARON BAK FROM THE RED CROSS,
ALL THE WAY FROM THUNDER BAY,
AND BARNEY OWENS THE FIRE
MARSHAL AND EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT GUY.
THANKS SO MUCH FOR BEING ON TVO
WITH US TONIGHT.

Now a slate pops up showing emergency supplies, with the title "Basic 72-hour emergency kit. Should be easy to carry."

Steve says AS WE HEARD, YOU ARE YOUR OWN
EMERGENCY PREPAREDNESS MANAGER.
HERE IS WHAT THE GOVERNMENT OF
CANADA RECOMMENDS YOU HAVE IN
YOUR 72-HOUR EMERGENCY KIT...

The list on the slate reads 2 litres of water per person per day, canned food and manual can opener, flashlight and batteries, battery-powered or wind-up radio, first aid kit and prescriptions, cash in small bills and change for payphones, copy of the emergency plan.

Steve continues YOU CAN GET THAT LIST AND MORE
AT getprepared.gc.ca

Watch: Preparing for Emergencies