Transcript: Dave Bidini On Touring With The Rheostatics | Feb 10, 1999

Alan Gregg sits in the studio. He’s in his forties, with short straight light brown hair and a goatee. He wears a black suit and a black turtleneck sweater.

He says YOUR NEW BOOK IS NOT ONLY
A DIARY OF YOUR TOURING
WITH THE TRAGICALLY HIP,
IT'S ALSO CHOCK FULL
OF ANECDOTES OF ARTISTS,
CANADIAN ARTISTS
WHO BLAZED THE TRIAL
IN THE '60s AND '70s.
TALKING TO THESE
PEOPLE, I MEAN,
WHAT STRUCK AS THE
GREATEST CONTRAST
BETWEEN THE LIFE
CANADIAN MUSICIANS LIVED
AT THAT POINT IN
TIME VERSUS TODAY?

A caption reads “Dave Bidini. Author of On a Cold Road.”

Dave is in his mid-thirties, with very short wavy brown hair and a thick beard. He wears a flannel shirt and a white T-shirt underneath.

He says WAY MORE SEX.
WAY MORE DRUGS.
THEY SEEMED TO OCCUPY
THIS KIND OF FORBIDDEN
STRATA IN SOCIETY.
NOW, MUSICIANS ARE INTEGRAL
PARTS OF OUR COMMUNITIES.
BACK THEN IT SEEMED THEY'D
RIPPED IT UP A LOT MORE.
THEY WERE BAD BOYS KIND
OF, AND NASTY GIRLS.
WHEN I WENT TO SIT DOWN
TO WRITE OUR STORY,
I FELT A LITTLE LIKE, THIS
BOOK WILL NEVER SELL
BECAUSE THERE'S
NO, YOU KNOW-

Alan says SEX, DRUGS, AND
ROCK AND ROLL.

Dave says YEAH, WE NEVER HAD
ANY WILD STORIES.
SO, THANK GOD LIKE SOMEBODY
LIKE GREG GODOVITZ EXISTED,
WHO HAD, WHATEVER, HAS
LIVED MULTIPLE LIFETIMES
IN TERMS OF THAT KIND OF
LIFESTYLE FOR MANY OF US.

Alan says WELL, IT BEGS THE
QUESTION, WHAT HAPPENED
IN THE ENSUING 20 YEARS?
WHAT HAPPENED TO THE SEX,
DRUGS, AND ROCK AND ROLL?

Dave says WELL, I MEAN, THERE'S THIS
LITTLE THING PROBABLY
CALLED AIDS THAT HAD
SOMETHING TO DO WITH IT.
SO THERE WAS LESS
RAMPANT UNPROTECTED -
THAT KIND OF THING.
I KNOW WHEN WE CAME UP
IN THE LATE '70s AND '80s,
KIND OF OUT OF
NEW WAVE AND PUNK ROCK,
BY BEING A STRAIGHT
AHEAD-ISH BAND,
WE WERE KIND OF REACTING
AGAINST - YOU KNOW,
IF YOU THINK OF OUR MUSICAL
FOREFATHERS BEING LIKE
OUR PARENTS, WE WANTED
TO BE UNLIKE THEM.
AND VERY SOBER
MINDED AND, YEAH,
JUST BEING A LITTLE MORE
CONSCIOUS THAT WE WERE
OUT THERE TO DELIVER MUSIC
AND THAT THAT OTHER STUFF
MIGHT IN FACT TAKE AWAY
FROM THAT EXPERIENCE,
FOR THAT PERSONAL EXPERIENCE
AND THE ARTISTIC EXPERIENCE.
SO, I THINK IN THAT SENSE,
WE JUST DIDN'T WANT
TO BE LIKE THEM AND
WE WEREN'T LIKE THEM.

Alan says NOW, THE MODERN MUSICIAN
OBVIOUSLY TOURS,
BUT NOT LIKE THESE GUYS.
THESE BANDS WOULD GO
ACROSS THE COUNTRY
FOR 20 YEARS, PLAYING EVERY
OUT-OF-THE-WAY BUNG HOLE.

Dave says AND BAD PLACES, MAN.

Alan says IN THE COUNTRY.
DID YOU GET A SENSE
OF WHAT THAT LIFE
MUST HAVE BEEN LIKE
TALKING TO THESE GUYS?

Dave says YEAH, AND, YOU KNOW,
IT'S ALMOST LIKE -
SOME OF THE STUFF WAS
LIKE A FASSBINDER FILM
LIKE REALLY DIRTY, AWFUL,
HEATHEN PLACES, YOU KNOW,
AND FIGHTS AND RIOTS AND
LOCAL CHARACTERS AND
KNIFE FIGHTS AND STABBINGS,
AND CORRUPT PROMOTERS.
WELL, THERE ARE STILL
CORRUPT PROMOTERS,
BUT REALLY, YOU KNOW,
A SERIES OF, YOU KNOW,
LIKE PLUMMETING - REALLY
GETTING DEEPER AND DEEPER
INTO A KIND OF CULTURE
THAT I DON'T THINK
EXISTS SO MUCH THESE DAYS.
SO, LIKE THEY WOULD TELL
STORIES ABOUT BAR FIGHTS.
THERE ARE NO GOOD
BAR FIGHTS ANYMORE.

Alan says NO, YOU DON'T
SEE THEM.
IN FACT, THERE ARE STORIES
THAT ONE OF THE REASONS
THAT DAVID CLAYTON THOMAS
AND RONNIE HAWKINS
WERE ABLE TO RISE UP OUT
OF THE CANADIAN SCENE
IS THAT BECAUSE THEY
WERE BOTH BIG GUYS
WHO COULD JUMP RIGHT IN
THERE AND DUKE IT OUT.

Dave says MAYBE, EH?
SURE, TOUGH,
YEAH, TOTALLY.
I MEAN, LIKE JACK
PEDLAR - HE WAS THE
ORIGINAL DRUMMER
IN TEENAGE HEAD,
BUT HE WAS IN TONS OF BANDS
IN HAMILTON AND STUFF.
HE'D SHOW UP, THEY WOULD
PUT THE BAND UP IN A HOTEL
IN THE CLUB WHERE HE'D BE
PLAYING IN NORTH BAY
AND THERE WOULD BE A
SNOWBANK IN THEIR ROOM
AND STUFF BECAUSE THE ROOM
WOULDN'T HAVE A WINDOW.
AND, YOU KNOW ABOUT
GETTING, YOU KNOW,
THREATENED AT KNIFE POINT,
GUYS OUTSIDE THE BACK
OF THE CLUB WANTED TO
STEAL THEIR BAND SHIRTS
AND STUFF LIKE THAT.
AND PLAYING IN NORTHERN
BRITISH COLUMBIA
WHERE THE CLUB WAS SO BAD THAT
WHEN THERE WAS A BIG FIGHT
IN THE BAR, THE COPS WOULDN'T
EVEN GO DOWN THE STREET
TO THE BAR, AND I THINK
JOHN CODY TELLS A STORY
ABOUT THE LEAD SINGER GETTING
CLOCKED ON THE HEAD BY A 26ER
AND BLEEDING PROFUSELY
ON THE STAGE,
AND THEY'RE TRYING TO DRAG
HIM OUT AND THE AUDIENCE
IS BLOCKING THEM, YELLING, “ONE
MORE SONG, ONE MORE SONG!”
AND THE AMBULANCE
WOULDN'T EVEN
COME DOWN TO GET
THESE GUYS.
SO IT'S WEIRD.
SO THERE'S FEWER
PLACES LIKE THAT,
AND THAT MIGHT IN FACT BE A
GOOD THING IF THOSE WERE
THE KIND OF JOINTS
THAT BANDS PLAYED.
YET AT THE SAME, THERE
ARE JUST LESS OPPORTUNITIES,
I THINK, FOR MUSICIANS
TO GO TO THESE PLACES.

Alan says WELL, AND THAT'S THE OTHER
SIDE, IS THAT WHILE THAT,
THE SPECIFICS OF THOSE
EXPERIENCES MIGHT SEEM AWFUL,
THE FACT OF THE MATTER
IS THAT THOSE BANDS
HAD PLACES TO PLAY.

Dave says YEAH, FOR SURE.

Alan says AND THEY HAD CAREERS
WITHOUT BIG RECORD DEALS.
TODAY, DOES THE
MODERN MUSICIAN WANT
TO GET OUT ON THE
ROAD THAT WAY?
IS THE NOTION
OF TOURING FOR 20 YEARS
APPEALING TO
YOUR GENERATION?

Dave says I THINK THERE ARE BANDS THAT
DEFINITELY LOVE TO TOUR.
YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU'RE
19, 20, 21, 22,
IT DOESN'T MATTER, YOU'LL
TOUR TO THE END OF TIME.
BECAUSE YOU REALLY DON'T
KNOW ANY BETTER AND YOU
HAVEN'T REACHED YOUR LIMIT,
YOUR PSYCHOLOGICAL LIMIT,
I DON'T THINK, YET.
BUT I THINK, YOU KNOW, A LOT
OF THESE SMALL TOWNS JUST
DON'T HAVE LIVE MUSICAL
VENUES ANYMORE BECAUSE
THEY TURN ON
THE TELEVISION
AND THERE'S OSTENSIBLY A LIVE
BAND DOING THEIR THING.
THEY GET IT ALL
THE TIME.

Alan says THE MUSIC VIDEO, YOU
ARE TALKING ABOUT.

Dave says YEAH, MUCH MUSIC AND THE
INTERNET AND STUFF LIKE THAT.
SO, BUT AT THE SAME TIME,
A LOT OF THE PEOPLE
IN THOSE TOWNS, A LOT OF THE
KIDS, I THINK ARE A LOT MORE
SOPHISTICATED AND THEIR
TASTES ARE A LITTLE MORE BROAD
THAN THEY MIGHT
HAVE BEEN 20 YEARS AGO,
AND THEY BUY RECORDS THROUGH
MAIL ORDER AND THROUGH
THE INTERNET AND STUFF, AND THEY
WILL TRAVEL SEVEN HOURS
TO WINNIPEG TO SEE A WEIRD BAND
COME UP FROM MINNEAPOLIS,
OR A BAND COME OVER FROM THE
MARITIMES TO PLAY AND STUFF.
IT'S A TRADE-OFF
FOR SURE.

Alan says THE THREAD THAT RUNS
THROUGH THIS BOOK
IS YOU'RE TOURING WITH
THE TRAGICALLY HIP
ON THEIR “TROUBLE AT
THE HENHOUSE” TOUR.
AND PLAYING AN
OPENING SLOT IS
A UNIQUE EXPERIENCE
FOR A MUSICIAN, TOO.
WHAT IS THAT LIKE, GOING
IN FRONT OF SOMEONE
ELSE'S AUDIENCE?
IN THIS INSTANCE,
IN BIG ARENAS?

Alan says YEAH, ONE OF THE THINGS
I SAY IN THERE IS THAT
YOU ALWAYS DREAM OF
PLAYING HOCKEY RINKS
WHEN YOU WERE A KID.
YOU JUST NEVER DREAM YOU
ARE THE OPENING BAND.
BECAUSE YOU CAN NEVER
PREPARE FOR THAT.
I MEAN, YOU WALK OUT ON
STAGE AND THERE'S,
WHATEVER, 6,000 PEOPLE
IN A 16,000-SEAT ARENA.
AND YOU ARE BASICALLY
PLAYING MUSIC FOR PEOPLE
THAT SORT OF TAKE
THEIR SEATS TO,
AND THAT CAN BE A LITTLE
DISCONCERTING AT TIMES.
FIRST COUPLE OF
EXPERIENCES FOR US
WERE TOTALLY HARROWING.
WE HAD NO IDEA WHAT IT
WAS GOING TO BE LIKE,
AND YOU GET OUT THERE,
YOU'RE GIVING IT YOUR BEST,
AND IT'S LIKE ANY
CONCERT EXPERIENCE.
YOU JUST HAVE TO
HOPE THAT, YOU KNOW,
THERE ARE 20 PEOPLE OUT
THERE THAT ARE JUST
POTENTIALLY REALLY
GETTING INTO IT.
IT'S FUNNY, BECAUSE
YOU ARE ON THAT STAGE
AND IT'S SO HIGH.
YOU'VE NEVER BEEN ON
A STAGE HIGHER BEFORE,
AND YOUR VOICE HAS
NEVER SOUNDED LARGER,
SO THAT'S A TOUGH
THING, AS WELL.
AND YOU ARE ONLY OUT
THERE FOR 25 MINUTES,
JUST BY THE END
OF THE SET,
YOU ARE GETTING USED TO HOW
YOUR VOICE SOUNDS OUT OF THE
GIANT SPEAKERS AND HOW TO
MANIPULATE IT AND HOW
TO REALLY MAKE
IT SOUND GOOD.
BUT, REALLY, THE ONLY
PEOPLE YOU SEE ARE LIKE THE
25 PEOPLE WHO ARE
SITTING IN FRONT OF YOU.

Alan says RIGHT.

Dave says SO YOU TRY TO MAKE
EYE CONTACT WITH THEM.
AND THEN IT'S OVER.
AND IT'S HARD, MAN,
YOU CAN NEVER REALLY
ACHIEVE SONIC CLIMAX.
IT'S REALLY HARD TO DO THAT
IN SUCH A SHORT SET
AND STUFF, SO IT'S
A BIT TOUGH.

Alan says YOU TOURED WITH THE
HIP AND THEIR SUCCESS
REALLY IS PHENOMENAL.

Dave says YEAH.

Alan says PEOPLE FROM OUTSIDE THE
COUNTRY COME AND SEE
WHAT THEY'RE DOING.

Dave says MM-HMM.

Alan says YOU'VE SEEN THE
AUDIENCE REACTION TO IT.
IS IT THEIR CANADIAN-NESS
THAT IN LARGE PART
IS RESPONSIBLE
FOR THAT SUCCESS?

Dave says I'M SURE IT IS.
I REMEMBER
GOING TO IRELAND.
I WENT TO SCHOOL THERE IN
'85 AT TRINITY AND,
MAN, THERE WAS LIKE
THOUSANDS OF BANDS -
WELL, NOT THOUSANDS BUT
HUNDREDS OF BANDS,
FOLK SINGERS AND ROCK BANDS
THAT I HAD NEVER HEARD OF,
BUT WERE HUGE IN IRELAND.

Alan says MM-HMM.

Dave says IT'S ALMOST THE QUEBECOIS
MODEL, YOU KNOW,
JUST PEOPLE YOU DON'T HEAR
OF OUTSIDE OF THOSE BORDERS,
AND WERE LOVED AND
SOMEONE LIKE CHRISTY MOORE
LOVED BECAUSE HE
SANG ABOUT IRELAND.

Alan says RIGHT.

Dave says HE WAS ELOQUENT AND
POETICIZED IRELAND,
AND JUST REALIZING THAT
THERE WAS SOMETHING REALLY
BEAUTIFUL ABOUT THAT, AND IT
DIDN'T MATTER TO THE IRISH
REALLY THAT THESE PEOPLE
WEREN'T SUCCESSFUL EXPORTS
OR THAT CHRISTY MOORE
DIDN'T TOUR.

Alan says THEY WEREN'T
FIXATING ON THAT.

Dave says YEAH, IT DIDN'T
MATTER.
I'VE ALWAYS THOUGHT THAT
IT SHOULDN'T MATTER
WHETHER CANADIAN
BANDS ARE SUCCESSFUL
IN AMERICA OR THE U.K.
IT SHOULD MATTER
WHETHER CANADIAN BANDS
ARE SUCCESSFUL IN CANADA.

Alan says MM-HMM, MM-HMM.

Dave says THESE ARE OUR
PEOPLE, YOU KNOW?
THESE ARE OUR ARTISTS AND
IT'S IMPORTANT FOR THEM
TO BE ARTICULATING THE
EXPERIENCE AND STUFF.

Alan says WHAT'S THE DEAL
WITH THE HOCKEY?
YOU GUYS ARE ALL
HOCKEY MANIACS.

Dave says YEAH.

Alan says YEAH.

Dave says WELL, WHAT'S
NOT THE DEAL?
ON THAT TOUR WITH
THE HIP THERE -
THAT'S ONE OF THE GREAT
PERKS OF BEING - I THINK
THEY USE THEIR ROCK STARDOM
FOR GOOD RATHER THAN EVIL.

Alan says MM-HMM.

Dave says IN THE SENSE OF LIKE WHEN
THEY'RE ON THE ROAD,
THEY DON'T THROW LAVISH
PARTIES IN PENTHOUSES
AND IN HOTELS.
THEY, LIKE, RENT ICE TIME AT
LIKE THE LOCAL RINK AND HAVE
THE SPORTING GOODS SUPPLY
STORE GIVE EVERYBODY SKATES
AND GEAR AND STUFF.
SO, THEY LOVE THE GAME AND
WE LOVE TO PLAY, AS WELL,
AND I GOT A CHANCE TO STOP
GLEN GRETZKY ON A BREAKAWAY.

Alan says AND YOU TELL THE STORY.

Dave says YEAH.

Alan says I MEAN, THERE'S A
WHOLE HOCKEY LEAGUE
FULL OF
CANADIAN MUSICIANS.

Dave says YEAH, THERE ARE.

Alan says THAT PLAY REGULARLY.

Dave says YEAH, THERE'S A GOOD
TEAM AND A BAD TEAM,
A FRIENDLY TEAM
AND AN EVIL TEAM.
I PLAY ON THE
FRIENDLY TEAM.
THE MORNINGSTARS.
THE WHITE KNIGHTS.

Alan says WE WON'T TALK ABOUT
THE SUSPENSIONS.
THAT'S SECRETS.
ON THE OTHER SIDE YOU
TOUCHED ON THE CANADIAN-NESS
AND HOW THAT PROBABLY
DOES HAVE AN APPEAL
WITH THE AUDIENCE.
I MEAN, SOMEONE ELSE
WE'RE LOOKING AT NOW,
BARENAKED LADIES HAD
TREMENDOUS SUCCESS IN CANADA.
IT LOOKED LIKE IT
WAS PETERING OUT.

Dave says YEAH.

Alan says AND NOW ARE
EXPLODING IN AMERICA,
IN NO SMALL MEASURE BY VIRTUE
OF TOURING THAT COUNTRY
IN UNRELENTING FASHION.
I MEAN, WHAT SIGNAL, IF
ANY, DOES THAT SEND BACK
TO CANADIAN MUSICIANS
AND CANADIAN BANDS,
THE BARENAKED
LADIES' SUCCESS?

Dave says THE STORIES THAT YOU ARE
GOING TO READ ABOUT THEM
ARE GOING TO BASICALLY,
YOU KNOW, I THINK,
FOCUS ON THEIR POP SUCCESS
OVER THE LAST YEAR
OR WHATEVER, BUT, YOU KNOW,
I THINK IT GETS BACK
TO THE FACT THAT THEY -
WHEN GORDON CAME OUT,
THEY TOURED-

Alan says THIS IS THEIR FIRST
COMMERCIAL RECORD.

Dave says YEAH, THAT'S RIGHT.
THEY TOURED ACROSS THE
COUNTRY AND THEY PLAYED
EVERYWHERE, MAN.
THEY WENT UP TO
BAFFIN ISLAND.

The caption changes to “Dave Bidini. Rheostatics.”

Alan says OH, YEAH.

Dave says AND TO SAINT JOHN'S,
AND OUT TO VICTORIA,
AND THEY DID THE COUNTRY
LIKE EXHAUSTIVELY,
AND THEY DID THAT A
COUPLE OF TIMES, TOO.
SO, I MEAN, TALKING
TO THOSE GUYS,
FOR THEM TOURING THE
STATES WAS KIND OF EASY.
THEY WORKED TWO
YEARS SOLIDLY AWAY
FROM THEIR FAMILIES, SO
THEY REALLY GAVE UP A LOT
TO GET WHAT THEY HAVE BEEN
GETTING LATELY, BUT,
AN HOUR AND A HALF
BETWEEN TOWNS AND STUFF,
AND THEY COULD GO AND
MICROMARKET AND GO TO TOWNS
AND KEEP REPEATING BECAUSE
IT WAS RELATIVELY EASY
COMPARED TO DRIVING
THOSE GREAT DISTANCES.

Alan says RIGHT.

Dave says SO YOU COULD GO BACK
AND TALK ABOUT THE BAND
AND STUFF, IT
THICKENED, YOU KNOW,
THEIR SPIRIT, YOU KNOW,
COMING OUT OF THIS COUNTRY
AND BEING ABLE TO GO
TO THESE OTHER PLACES
WHERE IT WASN'T
THAT HARD TO TOUR.

Alan says BUT I'M WONDERING, I MEAN,
WHAT DOES THAT SAY TO YOU?
IS THAT KIND
OF A BIG DEAL?
DOES THAT SAY, GEEZ,
IF THE RHEOSTATICS
WENT DOWN THERE, AND
WORKED THAT HARD AGAIN,
THEY COULD BUST AMERICA.
BECAUSE THERE IS A
FIXATION WITH AMERICA
FOR THE CANADIAN BANDS.

Dave says THERE IS, YEAH, BUT
THERE'S SO MANY BANDS.
THERE'S MILLIONS OF BANDS
IN THE UNITED STATES.
I MEAN, THE BARENAKED LADIES
WENT DOWN THERE AND PLAYED
FOR TWO YEARS AND THEN
BECAME A NUMBER ONE BAND.
THE TRAGICALLY HIP HAVE GONE
THERE FOR MANY YEARS
AND CAN'T GET ARRESTED
IN A LOT OF THE TOWNS,
SO THERE'S NO FORMULA.
YOU CAN'T PLUG IT IN, AND TO
BELIEVE THAT YOU CAN GO DOWN
THERE AND ACHIEVE SUCCESS JUST
BY BEING A GOOD BAND IS A LIE.

Alan says MM-HMM.

Dave says T DOESN'T NECESSARILY
JUST APPLY IN THE STATES.
IT APPLIES ANYWHERE.
YOU REALLY HAVE TO
GO DOWN AND KNOW EXACTLY
WHAT YOU WANT TO BE AND
WHAT YOU WANT TO DO,
AND I THINK YOU'VE TO
TRADE OFF PART OF YOUR LIFE
IN ORDER TO ACHIEVE
THAT SUCCESS.

Alan says RIGHT, RIGHT.

Dave says IT'S DIFFERENT
FOR EVERY BAND.
EVERY BAND SHOULD KNOW
THEIR OWN - HAVE AN IDEA
OF WHAT THEIR
CAREER MODEL IS.

Alan says WELL, LET'S TALK ABOUT
YOU FOR A WHILE, BECAUSE
THE RHEOSTATICS HAD A BIG
DEAL WITH SIRE RECORDS.
SEYMOUR STEIN.

Dave says YEAH.

Alan says I MEAN, THE BIGS,
THE BIGS.

Dave says SEYMOUR.

Alan says YOU'RE MAKING ALBUMS.
YOU ARE INSPIRED BY THE
ART OF THE GROUP OF SEVEN.
MORE RECENT
ONE, YOU KNOW,
DEDICATED TO A
CBC RADIO SHOW.

Dave says YEAH.

Alan says A CHILDREN'S ONE.

Dave says YES.

Alan says A CANADIAN FILM SCORE.

Dave says RIGHT.

Alan says THIS HARDLY SOUNDS
LIKE SOME GUYS WHO ARE,
YOU KNOW, RELENTLESSLY
PURSUING COMMERCIAL SUCCESS.
IS THERE AN ACTIVE
ATTEMPT TO AVOID IT?

Dave says NO, THERE'S AN
ACTIVE ATTEMPT
TO BE A COMMERCIAL
SUCCESS.
THAT'S ALWAYS BEEN OUR
FORMULA AND WHENEVER
WE'VE GONE IN THE STUDIO,
WE'VE THOUGHT, MAN,
WE GOT A GREAT SET
OF POP SONGS HERE.
BOY, WE GOT SOME
GREAT HOOKS,
SOME MELODIES THAT ARE
JUST GOING TO KILL.
WE'RE GONNA HEAR THIS
IN A SHOPPING MALL,
AND THEN WE GO IN
AND JUST, YEAH,
THE RECORDS END UP BEING
THE OTHER END OF THAT.
THEY JUST END UP BEING TOO
WEIRD FOR THEIR OWN GOOD OFTEN.
BUT I DON'T KNOW.
NO, I THINK WE GO IN THERE
THINKING THAT WE HAVE-
AND WE DO THINK WE HAVE
UNIVERSALLY HUM-ABLE
MELODIES AND SOPHISTICATED
SONGS THAT SHOULD BE PLAYED -
IN A PERFECT WORLD, SHOULD
BE PLAYED ON THE RADIO.

Alan says MM-HMM.

Dave says BUT THEY'RE NOT
FOR WHATEVER REASON.
WE THINK A PROJECT
OURSELVES.
LIKE, MUSIC INSPIRED BY THE
GROUP OF SEVEN IS IN FACT
A VERY EXOTIC PROJECT,
BUT WE SEE AFRICAN BANDS
COME UP HERE ALL THE
TIME, AND KLEZMER BANDS,
AND BANDS FROM ALL
OTHER CULTURES,
AND WE SEE OUR MUSIC
ALMOST AS LIKE WORLDBEAT
TO THE REST OF
THE WORLD.
I MEAN, IT'S DISTINCTLY
CANADIAN AND EXOTIC
IN ITS OWN WAY, AND I THINK
THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT
WE ALWAYS BELIEVED IN, TOO,
THAT CANADIAN MUSIC,
I THINK FOR A WHILE, HAD
A RAP OF BEING KIND OF,
YOU KNOW, PLAID JACKETS AND
BTO AND THAT KIND OF THING.
BUT IN FACT, SOME CANADIAN
MUSIC IS THE MOST EXOTIC
MUSIC BEING MADE
ON THE CONTINENT.

Alan says YOU'VE GOT A CHILDREN'S
RECORD COMING UP.
WHAT'S NEXT FOR
DAVE BIDINI?

Dave says WELL, I'M GOING
TO GO TRAVEL.
I'M GOING TO GO PLAY
HOCKEY IN UNLIKELY PLACES,
IN ASIA AND AFRICA
AND THE MIDDLE EAST.

Alan says MM-HMM?

Dave says BECAUSE THEY LOVE OUR GAME,
AND WE'RE GOING THROUGH THIS
GREAT CONSTERNATION
ABOUT CANADIAN HOCKEY
AND WHAT'S HAPPENING TO IT
ON AN INTERNATIONAL SCALE.
AND HOW WE HAVE SORT OF
FALLEN AND NOW WE'RE SHARING
THE SUMMIT WITH ALL
THESE OTHER COUNTRIES.
AND I WANT TO GO TO THESE
PLACES WHERE THE GAME
IS TRULY NASCENT AND SORT OF
CELEBRATE THE FACT THAT
WE HAVE EXPORTED THIS BEAUTIFUL
GAME AND IT'S BEING PICKED UP
BY PLACES, PEOPLE PLAYING
IN MALLS IN CHINA AND
SKATING ON THE MOAT
OUTSIDE THE FORBIDDEN CITY,
AND WHERE THE
PEOPLE REALLY, REALLY
TRULY LOVE THE GAME
AND ARE DISCOVERING IT
AS IF IT WERE A
GAME BEING BORN.
SO, THAT'S WHAT
I WANT TO DO.
THAT'S WHAT I'M
GOING TO DO.

Alan says WELL, THAT'S A
LITTLE DIFFERENT.

Dave says YEAH, IT'LL BE FUN.

Alan says DAVE BIDINI, I WANT TO THANK
YOU VERY MUCH FOR COMING.

Dave says THANKS, ALLAN, IT'S
BEEN FUN, THANK YOU.

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