Transcript: And They Give You Gout Pills | Mar 30, 1979

(music plays)

A song plays
IF YOU'RE READY YOU
WON'T BE SURPRISED
IF YOU'RE PREPARED THEN
YOU'VE REALIZED
WHAT THERE IS TO
EXPLORE IN A CHANGE
AND CLEARLY YOU SEE THERE
ARE THINGS TO BE GAINED
YOU FEEL GOOD TONIGHT 'CAUSE
YOUR FUTURE IS RIGHT,
YOU'RE READY, YOU'RE
READY FOR CHANGE
YEAH, YOU FEEL GOOD TONIGHT
'CAUSE YOUR FUTURE IS RIGHT,
AND YOU'RE READY,
YOU'RE READY FOR CHANGE

Fast clips show a film crew working, interviews, a man riding a motorcycle, people smiling and sitting.

A small bronze statue of people wearing coats and suitcases turn as a title reads “Head Start. ‘… And they give you gout pills.’.”

[birds chirping]

Max Braithwaite sits outside. He’s in his late sixties, with a white goatee and receding gray hair. He’s wearing black-rimmed glasses, a mustard shirt and a green jacket and blue jeans.

Max says HA, WHAT DO I THINK
OF OLD AGE?
IT'S A BUMMER.
A
REAL
BUMMER.
YOU BEGIN TO FALL APART.
THAT'S THE TROUBLE.
YOU KNOW, YOUR TEETH GO.
YOUR HIP GOES.
YOU GET ARTHRITIS.
YOU CAN'T RUN VERY
FAST ANYMORE.
YOU CAN'T WALK
VERY FAST ANYMORE.
DIGESTION BEGINS TO
GO ON THE FRITZ.
YOU BEGIN TO FALL APART.
SO IT'S NOT A
VERY NICE TIME.
BUT THEN, THERE ARE CERTAIN
COMPENSATIONS, TOO.
FOR ONE THING, YOUR FAMILY IS
ALL GROWN UP AND YOU DON'T
HAVE THE RESPONSIBILITY
OF THEM ANYMORE.
YOU DON'T HAVE TO WORRY
ABOUT WHAT THEY ARE DOING
AND HOW THEY'RE
GETTING ALONG.
YOU KNOW THAT THEY NOW ARE
ON THEIR OWN, AND THAT
YOU'RE OUT OF IT.
THAT'S ONE THING.
OF COURSE, YOU GET INTO
THE MOVIES FOR 90 CENTS.
AND IF YOU'RE A REAL
MOVIE BUFF, LIKE WE ARE,
WELL, THEN, THAT'S GREAT.
YOU KNOW, YOU SAVE
A LOT OF MONEY.
AND THERE ARE OTHER
BENEFITS, YOU KNOW?
PEOPLE ARE NICE TO YOU.
THEY GIVE YOU YOUR
GOUT PILLS FREE...
AND NICE THINGS LIKE THAT.
HI, HOW DO YOU FEEL ABOUT IT?

A woman in her late sixties approaches him. Holly has short white hair and bangs. She’s wearing a red winter coat with white motifs and a white pullover.

Holly says OH, WOW, I DON'T KNOW.

Max says OLD LADY, EH?

Holly laughs and says THAT'S THE WORST PART.
YOU'VE GOT TO START ACTING AS
IF YOU'RE AN OLDER PERSON.

Max says WE WOULD LIKE TO THINK THAT
WHEN PEOPLE SEE US THEY DON'T
BELIEVE THAT WE'RE THAT OLD.
EVERYBODY WHO GETS OLD HAS
THAT NOTION, THAT I REALLY
DON'T LOOK OLD.
I'M GOING TO HAVE TO PRODUCE
MY CARD WHEN I GO TO GET
THE CHEAPER FARE.
AND THEY DON'T
EVEN ASK FOR IT.
THEY JUST LOOK AT YOU AND
SAY, THIS OLD CROCK,
THERE'S NO DOUBT ABOUT HIM.
AND THERE WE ARE.

Holly says IT'S A SHOCKER.

Max continues IT
IS
A SHOCKER.
IT SNEAKS UP ON YOU, TOO.
THAT'S THE TERRIBLE THING.
YOU DON'T EXPECT IT.
NO YOUNG PERSON EVER
EXPECTS TO GET OLD.
BUT, YOU KNOW, AS SOMEBODY
ASKED MAURICE CHEVALIER WHAT
HE THOUGHT OF OLD AGE, AND HE
SAID, WELL, IT'S NOT SO BAD
WHEN YOU CONSIDER
THE ALTERNATIVE.
THAT'S ALL I'VE GOT
TO SAY ABOUT IT.
IT'S NOT SO BAD WHEN YOU
CONSIDER THE ALTERNATIVE.
I'D SOONER BE
ALIVE THAN DEAD.
UP TO THIS POINT.
BUT I'M SURE THERE WILL COME A
TIME WHEN BEING ALIVE WILL BE
TOO MUCH TROUBLE, TOO MUCH
HASSLE, TOO WORRISOME,
TOO PAINFUL, TOO AWFUL.
THEN, OF COURSE, YOU ALWAYS
HAVE THE ALTERNATIVE.
GOOD ALTERNATIVE.

Holly says THEN, DO YOU THINK YOU'LL
DO WHAT W.C. FIELDS DID?
GET OUT YOUR LITTLE BIBLE?

Max says OH YEAH, SURE.

Holly asks WHAT WAS IT HE SAID?

Max replies YEAH, HE WAS READING THE
BIBLE, IN HIS LAST ILLNESS AND
SOMEBODY CAME IN AND SAID,
BILL, YOU'RE READING THE BIBLE?
AND HE SAID, 'LOOKING
FOR A LOOPHOLE, MY BOY,
LOOKING FOR LOOPHOLES'.

She chuckles.

Max continues WELL, I'M NOT GOING TO
LOOK FOR ANY LOOPHOLES.
I'M GOING TO GO
WITH WHAT I'VE GOT.
IF I HAVEN'T MADE IT -- YOU
KNOW, I FEEL THAT OLD PEOPLE
GETTING RELIGION IS KIND OF A
SNEAKY THING TO DO, KIND OF
A SLEAZY THING TO DO.
THEY'RE COVERING UP,
THEY'RE HEDGING THEIR BETS.
THEY'VE BEEN, YOU KNOW,
NOT THINKING OF WHAT KIND
OF A PERSON THEY ARE.
NOW, WHEN THE GRIM REAPER IS
JUST OVER THE HILL, THEY BEGIN
TO THINK, MY GOD, I BETTER
PAY SOME ATTENTION TO THIS.
TO ME, THAT'S KIND OF
A LOUSY THING TO DO.

Holly says YEAH, BUT YOU'RE TALKING
ABOUT A LOT OF PEOPLE.
YOU'RE FORGETTING ALL THE
PEOPLE WHO HAVE ALWAYS
BEEN RELIGIOUS.

Max says NO, I'M NOT
WORRYING ABOUT THEM.
NO, THEY'RE LUCKY.

Holly says THEY KNOW WHERE
THEY'RE GOING.

Max says THEY'RE LUCKY.
THEY KNOW WHERE THEY'RE GOING.
IF THEY DON'T GO THERE,
THEY'LL NEVER KNOW IT.
BUT NO, I'M TALKING ABOUT SOME
PEOPLE WE KNOW WHO, YOU KNOW,
WHEN IT BEGINS TO CLOSE IN ON
THEM, AS IT CLOSES IN ON ALL
OF US, THEY BEGIN
TO HEDGE THEIR BETS.
I DON'T LIKE THAT.

Holly says IT'S SUCH A GORGEOUS DAY.
DO YOU THINK YOU CAN
MAKE IT DOWN TO THE LAKE?
WOULD YOU LIKE TO WALK DOWN?

Max says OH, SURE, I THINK SO.
THAT'S ANOTHER
THING, THIS DAMN HIP.
IT'S JUST ANOTHER
EXAMPLE OF FALLING APART
AS YOU GET OLDER.
HERE I WAS LAST SPRING,
PERFECTLY HEALTHY, WALKING TWO
MILES A DAY, THINKING NOTHING
OF IT, THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN --
IT
WAS
ALL OF A SUDDEN --
I BEGAN TO GET THESE PAINS
IN MY LEG.
AND GO TO THE DOCTOR AND
DISCOVER IT'S WHAT THEY CALL A
REFERRED PAIN THAT COMES
FROM SOMEWHERE ELSE.
IN THIS CASE, IT'S
COMING FROM MY HIP JOINT.
SO I ASK, WHAT DO YOU DO?
WHAT DO YOU DO WITH
A BAD HIP JOINT?
WELL, WE CAN CUT
IT OFF, THEY SAY.
WE CAN PUT A METAL ONE ON AND
A PLASTIC SOCKET, AND YOU'LL
HAVE A BRAND NEW BALL
AND SOCKET JOINT.
THAT SOUNDS VERY EASY TO SAY.
HOWEVER, IT'S A BIG OPERATION,
AND ESPECIALLY BIG FOR ME
SINCE I'VE NEVER
HAD AN OPERATION.
I'VE NEVER EVEN BEEN SICK.
NEVER BEEN IN THE
HOSPITAL IN MY LIFE.
AND I FIND MYSELF CONFRONTED
WITH THIS MAJOR SURGERY.
THAT'S JUST
ANOTHER PART OF IT.
I WAS SURPRISED AT HOW
SANGUINE I WAS ABOUT THE WHOLE
THING, AND HOW EASILY I
TOOK IT, BUT IT DID COME
AS QUITE A SHOCK.
AND I MUST SAY THAT
IT WORKED PRETTY WELL.
THE METAL BALL
IS WORKING FINE.
AND I CAN GET AROUND.
I CAN WALK.
AND SO LET'S GO.

Holly says I'D USE YOUR CANE
BECAUSE IT'S SLOPED.

Making a funny voice, Max says OH YEAH, GIVE THE
OLD MAN HIS CANE.
OH, DEAR ME.
[laughing]
GIVE THE OLD MAN HIS CANE.
COME ON, LET'S GO.

Holly says OKAY.
WELL, IT'LL BE, WHAT,
FIVE MONTHS --

Max says YOU KNOW, I'M GOING
TO MISS THIS PLACE.

Holly says IT'LL BE THE LONGEST
TIME AWAY SINCE WHEN?

Max says WELL, LET'S SEE...
1959 WE CAME UP HERE.
BEST MOVE WE EVER MADE.
HEY, THERE'S A CHICKADEE.
COME ON, COME ON.
ATTA BOY.

Holly says HE'S A CHOOSEY ONE.

She laughs.

Max says YEAH, IT WAS A GOOD
THING MOVING UP HERE
AWAY FROM THE CITY.
OF COURSE, THAT'S ONE OF THE
ADVANTAGES OF BEING A WRITER,
YOU CAN LIVE WHERE
YOU WANT TO LIVE.
AND THIS IS WHERE
WE'VE WANTED TO LIVE.

Holly says WE'RE USED TO IT NOW.

Max continues I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT, IT
IS IMPORTANT FOR PEOPLE TO DO
WHAT THEY WANT TO DO, WHEN
THEY WANT TO DO IT, AND NOT
SAVE UP THEIR GOOD TIMES UNTIL
THEY GET TO BE 65 BECAUSE
WHEN YOU GET TO BE 65, WHAT
THE HELL, YOU CAN'T ENJOY
THEM HALF THE TIME.
AND I THINK THIS IS WHERE
PEOPLE MAKE THEIR MISTAKE.
IF YOU FEEL LIKE DOING
SOMETHING, DO IT.

Holly says PROBABLY WE WOULDN'T HAVE
CHOSEN THIS PLACE IF WE'D
WAITED 'TIL NOW.
YOU KNOW, THE ROCKY, AND
THE HILLS AND EVERYTHING.

Max says SORT OF BUMPY.

Holly continues BUT WE'RE USED TO
IT, AND WE LOVE IT.
LOVE EVERY TREE...
EVERY BIRDIE.

Max says EVERY CHICKADEE.
AH, SEE. NOTHING TO IT.
HEY, LOOK AT THAT LAKE.
ISN'T THAT MARVELLOUS?

Holly says AND THE KIDS HAVE
LOVED THIS PLACE.
THEY JUST HAVE
LOVED IT SO MUCH.

They sit on a bench.

Max says IT'S BEEN A GREAT PLACE FOR
THEM, AND IT'S BEEN A GREAT
PLACE FOR US.
YEAH, THE LAKE LOOKS REALLY
NICE TODAY, DOESN'T IT?

Holly says A LOT QUIETER THAN IT
LOOKS IN THE SUMMER.

Max says ALL MY LIFE I'VE
LOVED LAKES.
AND GROWING UP IN
SASKATCHEWAN, WHERE THERE
AREN'T ANY, I DON'T KNOW
WHY, WHERE I GOT MY GREAT
LOVE OF LAKES.

The sun sparkles in the blue water.

Holly says THE TREES.

Max says WELL, FOR THE NEXT WHILE,
WE'LL BE LOOKING AT THE OCEAN.

Now, he sits in a study with a library in the background.

Max says YOU ASKED ME ABOUT RETIREMENT.
WELL, I DON'T THINK ANYBODY
SHOULD EVER RETIRE.
UNFORTUNATELY, SOME
PEOPLE LOSE THEIR JOBS.
THEY ARE CALLED IN AT
THE AGE 65, AND SAID,
HERE'S A GOLD WATCH.
YOU WERE A VERY GOOD MAN WHEN
YOU WERE 64 AND A HALF, BUT
NOW THAT YOU'RE 65, YOU'RE
NO GOOD TO US, GOOD-BYE.
AND THIS IS A TRAUMATIC
EXPERIENCE, AND A THING THAT
SHOULD NEVER HAPPEN BECAUSE
THE MAN HASN'T CHANGED THAT
MUCH IN THAT TIME.
BUT HE DOESN'T NEED TO RETIRE.
HE CAN DO SOMETHING ELSE.
THERE ARE ALL SORTS OF THINGS.
HE CAN DO THOSE THINGS
HE ALWAYS WANTED TO DO.
THAT HE SAYS, IF I HAD IT TO
DO OVER AGAIN I WOULD DO THIS,
BUT NOW IT'S TOO LATE.
WELL, OF COURSE,
IT'S NEVER TOO LATE.
AS LONG AS HE KEEPS ON TRYING
TO DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT.
TAKE UP PAINTING, FOR
INSTANCE, SO YOU'RE NO GOOD
AT PAINTING, WELL,
LEARN HOW TO PAINT.
OR WRITING POETRY.
GOD KNOWS YOU CAN WRITE
AS GOOD POETRY AS IS GETTING
PUBLISHED THESE DAYS.
I KNOW A GUY WHO THAT FOOLING
AROUND IN HIS GARAGE WITH
HOUSE PAINT, AND THAT SORT
OF THING, THAT HE HAD IN THE
GARAGE, AND HE WAS
FASCINATED BY THE COLOURS.
AND HE JUST COULDN'T
LEAVE IT ALONE.
AND THE FIRST THING HE KNEW HE
WAS PUTTING COLOURS TOGETHER,
THESE HOUSE PAINT COLOURS AND
VARNISHES, NOT VARNISHES, BUT
ENAMELS AND SO ON, AND HE WAS
PRODUCING SOMETHING PRETTY GOOD.
AND NOW, HE'S A
FAIRLY GOOD PAINTER.
GOOD ENOUGH TO SELL SOME OF
HIS WORK AND TO KEEP HIM BUSY.
SO HE'S HAPPY.
HE'S STRIVING.
OF COURSE, I BELIEVE THE WHOLE
PURPOSE OF LIFE IS STRIVING.
PEOPLE SAY, WHAT IS
THE PURPOSE OF LIFE?
WELL, I THINK IT'S STRIVING.
STRIVING TO STAY ALIVE.
STRIVING TO MAKE A LIVING.
STRIVING TO DO SOMETHING
BETTER THAN YOU'VE EVER DONE.
AND THERE'S NO REASON WHY
YOU HAVE TO STOP DOING THAT
WHEN YOU GET TO BE 65.
THERE'S NO LAW THAT SAYS
NOW YOU CAN QUIT STRIVING.
BECAUSE WHEN YOU STOP
STRIVING, YOU DIE.
THAT'S DEATH.
AND VERY SOON, YOU
STOP BREATHING, TOO.
THIS, I THINK, IS THE SECRET
OF BEING SUCCESSFUL AFTER 65.
IN OTHER WORDS, FORGET HOW OLD
YOU ARE AND TRY SOMETHING ELSE.
THERE ARE ALL SORTS
OF THINGS TO TRY.
I KNOW A GUY WHO'S DOING
ETCHING, YOU KNOW, HE'S GONE
RIGHT INTO IT, NOW HE'S
HAVING A ONE-MAN SHOW.
HE WAS A PSYCHOLOGIST.
HE NEVER LIKED BEING
A PSYCHOLOGIST.
HE NEVER SHOULD HAVE
BEEN A PSYCHOLOGIST.
AND, OF COURSE, THAT'S
ANOTHER THING I BELIEVE.
THAT PEOPLE SHOULDN'T BE
WHAT THEY DON'T WANT TO BE.
IF YOU'RE IN A JOB THAT
YOU DON'T LIKE, QUIT.
AND DO SOMETHING
THAT YOU DO LIKE.
AND THIS IS WHAT
HAPPENED TO GEORGE.
I JUST HAPPEN TO HAVE MY BOOK
HERE, IN
LUSTY WINTER.
GEORGE WILSON SAVED UP ALL HIS
GOOD TIMES FOR WHEN HE'D GET
TO BE 65 AND RETIRE, AND
THEN
HE WOULD LIVE THE KIND OF
LIFE HE WANTED.
WELL, DAMN FOOL.
HE SHOULD HAVE STARTED LIVING
THAT KIND OF LIFE LONG --
SHOULD HAVE LEFT THAT
WIFE OF HIS LONG AGO.
LOTS OF PEOPLE SHOULD LEAVE
THEIR WIVES, AND LOTS OF WIVES
SHOULD LEAVE THEIR HUSBANDS
IF THEY'RE NOT HAPPY WITH THEM
AND IF THEY'RE NOT
FULFILLING THEMSELVES.
AND HE DIDN'T.
HE HUNG IN THERE, AND HUNG IN
THERE, AND HUNG IN THERE
AND, OF COURSE, THAT'S THE
TRAGEDY OF THE POOR GUY.
I FELT SO SORRY FOR HIM ALL
THROUGH BECAUSE HE DIDN'T DO
WHAT HE SHOULD HAVE DONE.
SORT OF SAVED UP HIS GOOD
TIMES FOR WHEN HE WAS 65,
AND THEN, OF COURSE,
IT WAS TOO LATE.

(the theme song plays)
A blue book cover reads “Max Braithwaite. Lusty Winter.”

A white light highlights the passage of a book.

He reads “WHAT MUTATIONS IN
PERSONALITIES OCCUR WHEN A
PERSON BREAKS OUT OF THE MOULD
OF 40 YEARS AND ATTEMPTS
NEW WAYS OF EXISTENCE.”
Speaking to Holly, he says YOU KNOW, I SAID SOMETHING
EARLIER ABOUT GEORGE WILSON,
SHOULD HAVE LEFT HIS WIFE.
AND I THINK THAT'S TRUE.
AND I'VE BEEN THINKING
ABOUT IT SINCE.
WHY DO SOME GUYS NOT GET ALONG
WITH THEIR WIVES, AND WHY DO
SOME WIVES NOT GET ALONG
WITH THEIR HUSBANDS?

Holly says WE'VE SEEN LOTS OF PEOPLE BE
TERRIBLY UNKIND TO EACH OTHER.
I THINK WHEN ONE PERSON MAKES AN
UNKIND REMARK, IT MAKES A SCAR.
THERE'S GOT TO BE SOME --

Max says YEAH, THIS IS GOING TO
GET QUITE SQUISHY HERE
BECAUSE HUSBANDS AND WIVES
ARE SUPPOSED TO FIGHT.
I'VE READ EVEN THAT A GOOD
FIGHT NOW AND THEN IS GOOD
FOR A MARRIAGE.
AND I SAY THAT'S
ABSOLUTE BUNK.
I DON'T SEE WHAT A GOOD
FIGHT CAN DO TO A MARRIAGE.
WHAT A MARRIAGE NEEDS IS
CONSIDERATION AND KINDNESS.

Holly says AND UPHOLDING.
HOLDING THE OTHER FELLOW'S
EGO TOGETHER WHEN IT GETS
SMASHED DOWN BY
OTHER PEOPLE.

Max says MY GOD, YES.
YOU'RE GOING TO GET ENOUGH
OF IT FROM THE CRITICS
AND FROM OTHER PEOPLE.

She laughs.

Max continues I MEAN, THAT'S THE
WAY THE WORLD IS.
AND IF A GUY CAN'T, OR A WOMAN
CAN'T COUNT ON HER SPOUSE TO
GIVE THEM BACKING, AND
ENCOURAGEMENT, AND SUPPORT,
THEN WHERE THE HELL
IS HE GONNA GET IT?
IF YOU CAN CURB THE URGE TO
CRITICIZE, AND GOD, WE ALL
MAKE MISTAKES, YOU KNOW, YOU
SEE ME DOING THE DAMNEDEST
THINGS AROUND HERE, AND
BUMBLING AND LOSING THINGS
THAT I CAN'T FIND.

Holly says DRIVING OVER MY GLASSES.

Max says DRIVING OVER YOUR GLASSES.
WHAT'D YOU HAVE TO
BRING THAT UP FOR?

She chuckles.

He continues WHO LEFT THE GOD DAMN
GLASSES BEHIND THE CAR,
THAT'S WHAT I'D LIKE TO KNOW?
ANYWAY, THAT'S THE WAY
IT STARTS, YOU SEE?

She says WE'VE ALWAYS HAD LOTS TO
TALK ABOUT AND LAUGH ABOUT.
AND I THINK ONE BIG PLUS,
ONE LUCKY THING IS THAT OUR
BACKGROUNDS WERE SO SIMILAR.

He says OH, YEAH, WE WERE
VERY LUCKY THERE.
WE HAVE EXACTLY THE
SAME BACKGROUND.
WE COME FROM EXACTLY THE
SAME PART OF THE COUNTRY.
OUR FOLKS ARE THE SAME MIXTURE
OF IRISH AND ENGLISH AND
SCOTCH AND GOD
KNOWS WHAT ELSE.
WE HAVE THE SAME KIND OF
FAMILIES, AND WE BOTH STARTED
OFF BONE POOR, WITH
ABSOLUTELY NOTHING.
HOW MUCH DID WE HAVE
WHEN WE GOT MARRIED?

She says NOT AS MUCH AS NOW.
WE'VE GOT THIS LITTLE
HOUSE DOWN HERE IN FLORIDA

They laugh.

She continues THAT WE'RE HEADING FOR.
AND DARLING, WE SHOULD FIGURE
OUT HOW, YOU KNOW, THE BEST
ROUTE TO GO, AND HOW LONG
IT'S GOING TO TAKE US.

He says WELL, I KNOW
HOW TO GET THERE.
WE JUST GO TO DETROIT,
AND HIT HIGHWAY 75
AND GO STRAIGHT SOUTH.

They look at a map.

He continues AND PRAY A LOT THAT EVERYTHING
IS GOING TO BE ALL RIGHT.
BUT, YOU KNOW, BOTH
OF US LIKE TRAVELLING.
THAT'S ANOTHER THING.
WE REALLY LIKE TO GET
ON THE ROAD AND TRAVEL.

She says YEAH, JUST A REAL
FUN THING TO DO.

He says AND GET DOWN TO VERO BEACH,
WHICH IS A VERY NICE COMMUNITY.
AND WE'RE TALKING LIKE YOUR
AVERAGE RETIRED PERSON WHO
WANTS TO GO SOUTH.
WHAT IS IT THEY
CALL US DOWN THERE?

She says SNOW BIRDS.

He says SNOW BIRDS.
YEAH, WE'RE THE SNOW BIRDS.
WE COME SOUTH WHEN
THE WINTER COMES.
I USED TO LIKE
WINTER, YOU KNOW?
TOBOGGANING, THAT
WAS OUR GREAT THING.
TAKE THE KIDS OUT ON
THE HILLS AND TOBOGGAN.
AND SKIING AND SKATING, AND
ALL THOSE THINGS WERE GREAT.
I ALWAYS LOVED WINTER.
BUT NOT ANYMORE.
AS YOU GET OLDER, WINTER
BECOMES MORE OF A HAZARD.
IT ISN'T SO MUCH THE COLD
WEATHER, IT'S THE SNOW AND
ICE AND GETTING YOUR
CAR STARTED, AND WALKING
BECOMES A REAL HAZARD.
YOU DON'T WANT TO
FALL DOWN ANYMORE.

They leave the house.

She stretches her arm with her palm up and says CHICK.
CHICK CHICK CHICK CHICK.
COME AND GET IT.

He says NO, HE'S NOT GONNA COME.

She says WE WON'T BE HERE MUCH LONGER.

He says WE CAME DOWN, WENT DOWN TO
VERO BEACH AND WE WENT INTO AN
EFFICIENCY MOTEL, AND ONE DAY
WE WERE WALKING ALONG THE
BEACH AND WE SAW A PLACE
WE THOUGHT WE MIGHT LIKE.
WENT AND ASKED THE PRICE,
AND IT WAS HALF A MILLION
DOLLARS, SO WE DECIDED
AGAINST THAT ONE.
BUT WE SAW THIS LITTLE PLACE
THAT WE BOUGHT, A PICTURE OF
IT, IT WAS MORE OUR SIZE, AND
CERTAINLY MORE OUR PRICE.
BECAUSE WE DIDN'T WANT TO
INVEST A LOT OF MONEY IN
FLORIDA, PARTLY BECAUSE WE
HAVEN'T HAVE A LOT OF MONEY TO
INVEST, AND PARTLY BECAUSE,
WELL, YOU NEVER KNOW,
YOU DON'T WANT TO GET TOO
INVOLVED IN ONE PLACE.
SO WE BOUGHT IT,
AND I'M GLAD WE DID.

They get into a caravan.

She says ONE OF THE BIG DIFFERENCES I
FIND WITH LIFE IN FLORIDA,
AS COMPARED TO HERE IS
WE'RE OUTDOORS MORE.
TO ME, IT ADDS THAT MANY
MORE DAYS TO OUR LIVES.
INSTEAD OF BEING CLOSED
IN, WE'RE OUTSIDE.

(music plays)

He says I'M AN EXPERT, YOU SEE?
UP UNTIL THIS YEAR, I'VE
NEVER SEEN A BANANA GROWN,
AND NOW I'M AN EXPERT.
OKAY, YOU HANG ON TO THAT.
CAN YOU REACH THAT?

She says YES.

He says THAT'S IT.
NOW, I'LL GET IT HERE.

She says WHAT WILL HAPPEN?

He says IT'LL FALL ON YOUR HEAD,
THAT'S WHAT WILL HAPPEN.

She says IT'S HEAVY, YOU KNOW?

He says ALL RIGHT.
COME ON DOWN, YOU SON OF A GUN.
JUST HOLD IT A LITTLE LONGER.
HERE.

She grabs the branch of a palm tree and he cuts a banana cluster.

She says AH, ISN'T THAT BEAUTIFUL?

He says ISN'T THAT NICE?
He says NOW, THOSE MIGHT LOOK LIKE
SMALL BANANAS, BUT THEY ARE.

She says THEY ARE.
THEY'RE LADY FINGERS.

He says LADY FINGERS, YEAH.
SUPPOSED TO BE VERY
GOOD WHEN THEY GET RIPE.
OKAY, NOW I'LL CUT
DOWN THE STALK.

She says NOW, THIS HANGS UNDER A
TREE SOMEWHERE, THEY SAY.

He says NOW, STAND CLEAR.
NEXT YEAR THESE LITTLE ONES
WILL BE AS BIG AS THAT ONE WAS,
AND WE HOPE THERE'LL
BE BANANAS ON THEM.

Anne takes a lemon out of a tree. She’s in her sixties with curly white hair. She’s wearing glasses and a shirtless yellow dress.

Holly says HI, ANNE.

Anne says OH, HOLLY, HERE.

Holly says OH, THANK YOU.
CAN YOU SPARE THAT ONE?
YOUR TREE IS GETTING EMPTY
NOW FROM WHAT IT WAS.
TERRIFIC.
THANKS.
GREAT.
THIS IS THAT AIR
PLANT, ISN'T IT?

Anne says IT'S A STAG HORN, YEAH.

Holly says A STAG HORN.

Anne says MY SON PLANTED THIS.
HE HAD A COCONUT.
HE HAD ONE OF
THESE HERE SPROUTS.
HE PUT IT AROUND, FOIL AROUND
THERE, AND HE PUT IT ON
THERE, AND IT'S GROWING.

Holly says THAT'S TERRIFIC.

Anne says AHA.
NO WATER.

Holly says IT GROWS WITH THE AIR.
IT'S BEAUTIFUL.

Anne says KEEP IT OUT OF TOO
MUCH SUN, THAT'S ALL.

Holly says I SEE.
THAT'S WHY IT'S
HUNG UNDER A TREE.

Max stands in front of an orchard and says ONE OF THE GREAT THINGS ABOUT
THIS PLACE, OF COURSE, IS THE
WAY EVERYTHING GROWS SO FAST,
SO A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE
INTO GARDENING.
AND THIS FELLOW, MY NEIGHBOUR
LARRY, HE HAS FINE TOMATOES,
AND THESE PAPAYAS, THEY
GROW -- WELL, HE PLANTED
THOSE LAST YEAR.
ABOUT THIS TIME LAST YEAR, HE
PLANTED THOSE, AND NOW LOOK
AT THEM.
HE'S BEEN EATING
THEM EVER SINCE.
I'M NOT INTO THIS VEGETABLE
GARDENING AT ALL BECAUSE
I'VE HAD THAT DEAL.
WHEN I HAD FIVE KIDS AROUND
AT HOME I GREW A LOT OF STUFF
BECAUSE IT WAS
NECESSARY TO FEED THEM.
BUT NOW I'D JUST AS
SOON GO TO THE MARKET.
WE JUST HEAD SOUTH WITH THE
BIRDS AND SPEND THE WHOLE
WINTER IN FLORIDA.
SISSIES, THAT'S WHAT WE ARE.
WE CAN'T TAKE IT ANYMORE.
AND THAT'S A FACT.
WHEN YOU GET OLD, YOU
CAN'T TAKE IT ANYMORE.

(harp music plays)

Holly says I CAN PICTURE MYSELF WALKING
AROUND HERE WHEN I'M 80 YEARS
OLD BECAUSE IT'S FLAT, AND THE
WEATHER IS SO GRAND, NO ICE.
I JUST THINK IT'S GOING TO
BE A GREAT CHANGE FOR US.
WE BOTH HAPPEN TO LIKE WALKING
ON THE BEACH AND KICKING THE
SAND, AND THAT'S WHERE WE
SPEND MOST OF OUR TIME.
OUR HOUSE, AS COMPARED WITH
BRANDY LAKE, IS MORE OR LESS
JUST A PLACE TO
EAT AND SLEEP
BECAUSE WE'RE
OUTSIDE DOING THINGS.
I THINK THAT'S GOOD.
I THINK IT'LL KEEP
US GOING LONGER.

They take a walk down the beach.

Max says THERE'S JUST NO DOUBT ABOUT
IT THAT THIS IS AN EASIER
PLACE TO LIVE.
JUST GREAT FOR THE
ARTHRITIS IN MY KNEES.
IT ISN'T THE LIFE FOR A
YOUNG PERSON, I DON'T THINK,
BUT IT'S CERTAINLY
GREAT FOR US OLD TYPES.
THAT'S NICE.
LOOK AT THAT.

Holly says SEE IT BREAKING.

Max says WAY OUT THERE.
MAYBE IT'LL DIVE.

A man practices surf.

Holly says IT'S BEAUTIFUL.
I WISH I COULD DO THAT.

Max says WONDER WHAT IT'S
LIKE AT BRANDY LAKE?

Holly says PELICANS WON'T BE DIVING IN.

Max says NOT VERY LIKELY.

An aerial view shows the coastline. People take a ride in a little tourist train.

Max says LOOK AT THE CATS
ALL OVER THE PLACE.

Holly says EVERYWHERE.
EVERYWHERE.
THAT'S NICE.

Max sits in a garden in front of a manor house.

Max says IT'S PARTICULARLY INTERESTING
TO A WRITER TO VISIT
HEMINGWAY'S HOUSE.
IT'S INTERESTING TO ANYBODY,
BUT IT'S PARTICULARLY
INTERESTING TO A WRITER
BECAUSE HEMINGWAY WAS WHAT YOU
MIGHT CALL A WRITER'S WRITER.
EVERYBODY WHO HAS WRITTEN
SINCE HEMINGWAY HAS BEEN,
TO SOME EXTENT, INFLUENCED
BY HIM AND HIS STYLE.
NOW, I NEVER HAD MUCH
ADMIRATION FOR THE KIND
OF PERSON THAT HE WAS.
BUT YOU CAN'T HELP BUT HAVE
A LOT OF ADMIRATION FOR THE
KIND OF WRITER THAT HE WAS.
HE WAS ONE OF THE FIRST
TO WRITE IN A STRAIGHT,
DIRECT WAY.
FOR INSTANCE HERE, THE
BEGINNING OF THIS BOOK,
THE OLD MAN AND THE SEA.
FIRST SENTENCE --
He reads “HE WAS AN OLD MAN WHO FISHED
ALONE IN A SKIFF IN THE GULF
STREAM, AND HE HAD GONE 84
DAYS WITHOUT TAKING A FISH.”
He continues A SIMPLE, DECLARATIVE
SENTENCE.
NOW, I KNOW LOTS OF WRITERS
WHO CAN'T WRITE A SIMPLE,
DECLARATIVE SENTENCE.
THEY WRITE ALL AROUND IT, BUT
THEY NEVER REALLY SAY IT.
AND THIS IS THE THING
ABOUT HEMINGWAY.
HE GOT HIS TRAINING IN THE
NEWSPAPER BUSINESS, WITH
THE TORONTO STAR,
THE KANSAS
CITY STAR, OTHER NEWSPAPERS,
AND HE WROTE IN THAT NICE,
CONCISE, STRAIGHTFORWARD
SIMPLE WAY THAT I THINK
WRITERS SHOULD WRITE.
AND I THINK THAT PROBABLY THIS
BOOK,
THE OLD MAN AND THE SEA,
IS HIS BEST BOOK.
AND THE REASON I THINK SO AND
THE REASON THAT IT IS, IS
BECAUSE HE, HIMSELF,
WAS AN OLD MAN.
AND, YOU KNOW, YOU LEARN A FEW
THINGS IF YOU ARE A WRITER,
PARTICULARLY, SOME PEOPLE
DON'T LEARN ANYTHING, BUT A
WRITER LEARNS A FEW
THINGS IN 60 YEARS.
AND HE SORT OF IS ABLE
TO SUM THEM ALL UP.
AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT
HEMINGWAY DID IN THIS
PARTICULAR BOOK.
AND HE SUMMED UP WHAT
AN OLD MAN'S PROBLEM IS.
AND WHAT AN OLD MAN
IS TRYING TO DO.
ONE MORE TIME, CATCH THE
BIGGEST FISH, AND BRING IT BACK.
AND I THINK THERE'S SOMETHING
VERY, VERY VITAL ABOUT THAT.
BECAUSE WHAT IS
LIFE ALL ABOUT?
LIFE IS STRIVING.
THAT'S WHAT IT'S ALL ABOUT.
WHEN YOU STOP
STRIVING, YOU'RE DEAD.
AND THIS OLD MAN, HE
NEVER STOPPED STRIVING.
HE WENT OUT TO
CATCH A BIG FISH.
HE CAUGHT THE FISH, AND WHAT
HAPPENED TO HIM, OF COURSE, IS
WHAT HAPPENED TO MY CHARACTER
IN
LUSTING WINTER.
THINGS DIDN'T WORK OUT.
OTHER FORCES -- IN THIS CASE,
SHARKS -- TOOK OVER FROM HIM
AND RUINED HIS PROJECT.
BUT THAT DOESN'T MATTER.
THAT MAKES ABSOLUTELY
NO DIFFERENCE.
THE POINT IS THIS OLD MAN WENT
OUT TO DO IT, TO CATCH THE FISH.
AND, YOU KNOW, AS I SAY,
HEMINGWAY WROTE THIS WHEN HE,
HIMSELF, WAS AN OLD MAN.
AND I DON'T THINK ANY YOUNG MAN
COULD WRITE A BOOK LIKE THIS.
IF HEMINGWAY HAD LIVED, HE'D
BE 80 YEARS OLD COME JULY.
AND PROBABLY WOULD HAVE
WRITTEN MORE BOOKS.
MORLEY CALLAGHAN MUST BE
ALMOST AS OLD, AND HE'S STILL
WRITING, AND CERTAINLY,
WHEN I'M THAT OLD,
I'LL STILL BE WRITING.
BUT THINGS WERE A LITTLE
DIFFERENT IN 1961 WHEN
HEMINGWAY DIED.
HE DIDN'T SEE HOW
HE COULD CARRY ON.
NOW, I THINK, THE SITUATION
IS BETTER FOR OLDER PEOPLE.
FOR ONE THING, SOME OF THE
THINGS THAT WERE PLAGUING HIM
AS FAR AS HIS HEALTH WAS
CONCERNED, THEY NOW CAN CURE.
AND THAT IS A GREAT THING.
PEOPLE ARE ABLE
TO LIVE LONGER.
AND I'M ALL FOR PEOPLE LIVING
LONGER AND DOING MORE THINGS.
AND I THINK IT IS TRUE, THAT
OLDER PEOPLE, TODAY, HAVE IT
BETTER THAN THEY EVER HAD.
WELL, MORE OF THEM CAN COME
TO FLORIDA AND BUY PROPERTY
AND GET OUT OF THE COLD.
AND THERE IS A GREAT DEAL
DONE FOR OLD PEOPLE TODAY.
IN THE COMMUNITY I LIVE, MY
GOODNESS, IF YOU WERE TO TAKE
ADVANTAGE OF ALL THE THINGS
THEY DO FOR OLD PEOPLE,
YOU WOULDN'T HAVE
ANY TIME FOR YOURSELF.
AND SOME PEOPLE DO TAKE
ADVANTAGE OF MOST OF THEM.
AND THEY ARE BETTER
OFF FINANCIALLY.
SAY WHAT YOU LIKE, THE WELFARE
STATE REALLY LOOKS AFTER US.
AND I THINK IN EVERY
WAY IT REALLY IS BETTER.
HEY, PUSSY CAT.
He grabs the kitty and concludes WHAT DO YOU THINK?

(music plays)

The end credits roll.

Original Music, Ralph DeJonge.

Executive Producer, Ken MacKay.

Producer Director, Joan Reed-Olsen.

A Production of TV Ontario.

Copyright The Ontario Educational Communications Authority 1979.

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