Transcript: Col. Sanders | Dec 18, 1975

Mike McManus sits in the studio. He's clean-shaven, in his forties, with gray hair. He wears an orange shirt under a beige jacket.

He says WILL ROGERS USED TO
SAY, LIFE BEGINS AT 40.
WELL, FOR MY GUEST
TONIGHT, IT BEGAN AT 40.
IT BEGAN AGAIN AT 66.
AND TODAY AT 85, IT'S
STILL GOING STRONG.
KENTUCKY FRIED CHICKEN'S
WALKING ADVERTISEMENT.
OUR SUBJECT, COLONEL
HARLAND SANDERS.
HIS RECIPE FOR SUCCESS.

Colonel Sanders appears on screen. He's in his eighties with white hair and a white goatee, and wears a white shirt, black tie and white jacket.

Music plays.
A photo of a man in his thirties who looks sternly into the distance appears on screen next to the text “The Education of Mike McManus.”
A fast motion clip shows several different people of varying ages.

Back in the studio, Mike says COLONEL SANDERS, ARE YOU
RECOGNIZED EVERYWHERE YOU GO?

Colonel Sanders says IT SEEMS THAT
I AM, YES, SIR.
THEY SAY 97 PERCENT OF THE
PEOPLE IN NORTH AMERICA
KNOW ME WHEN THEY SEE ME.

Mike says I BET YOU'RE ESPECIALLY
RECOGNIZED BY CHILDREN.

Colonel Sanders says OH, THEY'RE MY DOLLS.
I LOVE CHILDREN, AND
THEY DO RECOGNIZE YOU.

Mike says WHAT KINDS OF THINGS
DO CHILDREN SAY
TO YOU WHEN
THEY MEET YOU?

Colonel Sanders says WELL, THEY DON'T
HAVE SO MUCH TO SAY.
THEY'LL GO TO TELL YOU MAYBE
SOME LITTLE STORY OF THEIR LIFE.
AND YOU KNOW, THEY
ARE VERY BOISTEROUS
WHEN THEY WANT
TO TALK TO YOU.
AND IT'S JUST A SIGHT.
THE THING IS, THEIR LOVE,
AND THEY'RE SINCERE
IN EVERYTHING THEY
SAY AND DO.
IF THEY DON'T LIKE
YOU, THEY'RE NOT GOING
TO HAVE A THING
TO DO WITH YOU.

Mike says AND THEY DO LIKE YOU.

Colonel Sanders says AND THEY SEEM TO LIKE ME,
JUST BY THE THOUSANDS.
I WAS AT A GRAND OPENING
YESTERDAY OUT HERE
IN BRAMPTON, AT OUR PLACE,
AND LITTLE TOTS, YOU'D HEAR
'EM, Mr. COLONEL SANDERS,
SOON AS THEY HIT THE
SIDEWALK UP IN FRONT,
WHEN THEIR MOTHER
LEAD THEM UP, AND THEY
COULDN'T GET IN FAST ENOUGH
TO RUN ACROSS THE HALL
THERE TO GET TO ME AGAIN.

Mike says COLONEL, YOU'RE A
WALKING ADVERTISEMENT
FOR KENTUCKY
FRIED CHICKEN.
AND I'M WONDERING, REALLY,
WHAT EXACTLY DO YOU DO?
DO YOU JUST TAKE
PLANES AND BE SEEN?
KEEP YOURSELF VISIBLE?

Colonel Sanders says NO, NO, I OFTEN SAID
I LIVE THE LIFE
OF THE BLUE RIBBON JERSEY
BULL AT THE COUNTY FAIR.
THEY TAKE YOU OUT AND
SHOW YOU OFF, THEN LEAD
YOU BACK TO THE PEN
AND PUT YOU UP.
THEY TRY TO SHOW ME OFF
ALL THEY CAN, BUT NO,
I MAKE ALL THEIR TELEVISION
AND RADIO COMMERCIALS,
AND MAKE PUBLIC APPEARANCES,
AND WORK WITH BOY SCOUTS'
GROUPS AND YOUNG FOLKS.
EVERYTHING OF THAT KIND.

Mike says DO YOU THINK THE NEW OWNERS
OF THE FRANCHISE
HAVE KEPT YOU ON AND KEPT
YOU VERY VISIBLE BECAUSE
OF THIS ATTRACTION OR APPEAL
YOU HAVE FOR CHILDREN?

Colonel Sanders says I THINK THAT'S THE ONLY
REASON THEY DID KEEP ME.

Mike says IS THAT RIGHT?

Colonel Sanders says I BELIEVE SO.
YES, SIR.

Mike says WOULD YOU EVER LIKE MOMENTS
WHEN YOU COULD WALK DOWN
THE MAIN STREET OF A CITY
AND JUST SHOP PEACEFULLY
BY YOURSELF AND NOT
BE RECOGNIZED?

Colonel Sanders says NO, NO.
THAT WOULD BE A
LONESOME LIFE.
I'M JUST GLAD THAT
I'M AMONG FRIENDS.
I FIGURE I'M AMONG FRIENDS
WITH PEOPLE WHO KNOW YOU.
AND I'VE NEVER DONE
ANYTHING TO MAKE PEOPLE
MAD AT ME, YOU SEE?
SO IT'S JUST NICE
TO MEET PEOPLE,
AND THEY SPEAK TO YOU.
YOU'RE ON HOME GROUND,
WHEREVER YOU ARE,
WHATEVER COUNTRY
YOU'RE IN.

Mike says YOU SOLD THE
BUSINESS IN 1964
FOR 2 MILLION DOLLARS, COLONEL.
AND I'M WONDERING WHY?

Colonel Sanders says WELL, I WAS 74 YEARS OLD.
AND I HAD NO ONE TO
SECEDE ME IN OPERATING
COMPANY FOR MY WIFE
AND 2 DAUGHTERS.
I THOUGHT, WELL, I HAD THAT
OFFER, 2 MILLION DOLLARS
WOULD LAST A MAN AS LONG
AS YOU NEED ANY MONEY,
AS LONG AS YOU LIVE.
SO I'D GO AHEAD AND SELL,
SETTLE UP MY TAXES
WITH THE GOVERNMENT SO MY
ESTATE WOULD ALL BE CLEAN,
IT WOULDN'T BE IN THE COURTS
OR ANYTHING FOR THE WIFE
TO HAVE TO BOTHER WITH.

Mike says ARE YOU FINANCIALLY
INDEPENDENT NOW?

Colonel Sanders says I'M FINANCIALLY IN
GOOD CIRCUMSTANCES.
AND I GET A
HANDSOME SALARY.

Mike says FOR MAKING THESE
COMMERCIALS.

Colonel Sanders says I GET 100,000 DOLLARS A YEAR FOR
BEING THE MAN OF THE COMPANY.
THEN I GET ANOTHER
100,000 DOLLARS FOR COMMERCIALS
I MAKE IN THE STATES.
I DON'T GET ANY FEE ON
ANY COMMERCIALS IN CANADA
BECAUSE YOU SEE THIS IS A
CHARITABLE ORGANIZATION
UP HERE, KENTUCKY
FRIED CHICKEN IS.
SO WE SAVE EVERY DIME WE
CAN FOR THE TREASURER
OF THAT COMPANY SO THE
CHARITY GETS MORE.

Mike says I DON'T QUITE
UNDERSTAND THAT.
IT'S A CHARITABLE
ORGANIZATION IN CANADA?

Colonel Sanders says OH, YES.
8 YEARS AGO, I
INCORPORATED HARLAND SANDERS
CHARITABLE FOUNDATION,
AND GAVE THE WHOLE
6 MILLION DOLLAR COMPANY
TO CHARITY.

Mike says I SEE.

Colonel Sanders says ALL OVER CANADA, THEY
SEND MONEY IN TO TORONTO.
THEN THEY TAKE OUT
THE OPERATING EXPENSE
OF THE SMALL STAFF
WE HAVE HERE.
AND WHAT THE RELATION IS TO
THE AMOUNT THE MAN SENT IN,
IT MIGHT BE 3 CENTS OF
EVERY DOLLAR, 2 CENTS
OR ONE, WHY THEN,
HE GETS THAT BACK.
ANYONE WHO HAS A
FAVOURITE CHARITY
THEY'D LIKE TO HAVE
SOMETHING DONE FOR,
GO SEE YOUR LOCAL KENTUCKY
FRIED CHICKEN MAN.
IF HE'S NOT ALREADY
COMMITTED, WHEN HE GETS
HIS DIVIDEND BACK, THE
CHEQUE WILL BE MADE OUT
TO THAT CHARITY.

Mike says SO YOU TRY TO WORK IT
SO THE MONEY GOES BACK
INTO THE AREA WHERE
THE RESTAURANT IS.

Colonel Sanders says THAT'S RIGHT.
I'M PRESIDENT
OF THE COMPANY.
BUT I GET NONE
OF THE PROFITS.

Mike says YOU MUST BE RATHER UNIQUE
TO HAVE ESTABLISHED
SUCH A FOUNDATION LIKE THAT
IN THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY?

Colonel Sanders says WELL, YOU ONLY HAVE TO
REALIZE THAT'S WHERE I STOOD.
I WAS IN A HIGH
BRACKET IN THE STATES,
AND THE GOVERNMENT WOULD
REACH IN AND TAKE 53 PERCENT
OF IT IMMEDIATELY
AT MY DEATH.
WE'D OF HAD TO SELL THE OTHER
47 PERCENT TO PAY THE TAXES.

Mike says I SEE.

Colonel Sanders says THEN THE WHOLE THING
WOULD BE DOWN THE STREAM.
WELL, CANADIANS AND
I MADE THIS COMPANY.
MY FAMILY HAD NOTHING
TO DO WITH IT, SEE?
WE MADE THE COMPANY.
SO I FIGURED, INSTEAD OF
LETTING THE GOVERNMENT
TAKE IT FOR TAXES, BY GOLLY,
GIVE IT BACK TO THE CANADIANS.
SO 5 OF MY FRANCHISEES ARE
TRUSTEES OF THE FOUNDATION.
SO THEY'RE NEVER GOING TO
LET ANYTHING HAPPEN,
OR ANYBODY GET
A HOLD OF IT
THAT WOULD EXPLOIT
THE FRANCHISE.
AND THAT'S THE WAY I
WANTED TO SEE IT BE.

Mike says I'M WONDERING IF WE CAN
GO BACK NOW, COLONEL,
TO HENRYVILLE,
INDIANA, AROUND 1890,
TO SOME MEMORIES OF
YOUR CHILDHOOD.
I KNOW YOUR FATHER DIED WHEN
YOU WERE 5 YEARS OLD.

Colonel Sanders says YES.
AND MY LITTLE BROTHER
WAS 3, AND MY SISTER
BORN A COUPLE OF MONTHS
AFTER PAPA DIED.

Mike says YOU THEN, WERE
THE OLDEST CHILD.

Colonel Sanders says OLDEST CHILD.
AND OF COURSE, BACK IN THOSE
DAYS, THAT WIDOWED MOTHER,
BOUND TO SEE A BLEAK SPELL
AHEAD OF HER, DIDN'T SHE,
RAISING 3 YOUNG ONES IN
A LITTLE POOR INDIANA FARM.
BUT 80 YEARS AGO,
WHEN I WAS A BOY,
THERE WASN'T MANY STORE-BOUGHT
CLOTHES, YOU SEE,
FOR SCHOOL CHILDREN,
BOY SUITS.
SO MOM MADE BOYS'
SUITS AND COATS,
MADE THE FARMERS' TROUSERS,
THEIR WORK TROUSER BECAUSE
THE FARMER BACK IN THEM
DAYS HE ONLY HAD ONE SUIT.
HE GOT MARRIED IN THAT, AND
THEN IT WAS LAID AWAY
FOR HIM TO BE BURIED IN
AT THE END OF TIME.
SO SHE MADE DRESSES
FOR THE SCHOOLGIRLS,
AND NEIGHBOURHOOD, AND
I DONE THE COOKING
UNDER HER DIRECTION.

Mike says SO YOU LEARNED TO COOK
BECAUSE YOU HAD TO.

Colonel Sanders says AND OF COURSE I'VE
ALWAYS LIKED IT.

Mike says YOU LEFT SCHOOL
IN 6TH GRADE.
AND THEN WHEN YOU WERE 12
AND YOUR MOTHER REMARRIED,
YOU LEFT HOME.

Colonel Sanders says I DIDN'T.
MY STEP-DADDY
KICKED ME OUT.
HE KICKED ME ALL OVER THE
KITCHEN THAT PARTICULAR DAY,
I DON'T KNOW WHAT
RILED HIS TEMPER.
BUT ANYHOW, MY LITTLE
BROTHER AND I BOTH LEFT.
HE WAS 10, AND I WAS 12.
SO WE WENT BACK TO
SOUTHERN INDIANA.
WE WERE UP AT GREENWOOD, AT
THAT TIME, NEAR INDIANAPOLIS.
AND I WENT BACK TO SOUTHERN
INDIANA, WHERE I HAD BEEN BORN,
IN THAT NEIGHBOURHOOD, AND
GOT ME A JOB WITH A FARMER,
AND I FARMED FOR THE NEXT
3 YEARS WITH FARMERS.

Mike says I KNOW THERE WAS A SHORT
STINT IN THE WAR, BUT I'D
LIKE TO GET ON TO WHEN YOU
WERE 18 AND GOT MARRIED.

Colonel Sanders says WELL, I DIDN'T GET MARRIED
BECAUSE I'D BEEN IN THE ARMY,
BUT 27 DAYS AFTER I WAS 16
YEARS OLD, A MAN GOT ON
MY STREETCAR ONE NIGHT
AND WANTED TO KNOW
DID I WANT TO VOLUNTEER FOR
A YEAR IN CUBA IN THE ARMY.
AND TOLD ME WHAT THE
GOVERNMENT PAID.
AND THAT WAS A LITTLE MORE
MONEY THAN I WAS MAKING
ON THE STREETCAR.
AND I SAID, YES.
BUT I SAID, I'M
ONLY 16 YEARS OLD.
HE SAID, YOU GO UP TO
THE QUARTERMASTER DEPOT
TOMORROW MORNING.
YOU TELL THEM
YOU'RE 21.
YOU'RE BIG
ENOUGH TO BE.
I WEIGHED 168 POUND.
AND SURE ENOUGH,
THEY TOOK ME IN.
SHIPPED ME TO
NEWPORT NEWS.
I GOT ON A SHIP IN NEWPORT
NEWS WEIGHING 168.
I GOT OFF IN HAVANA,
CUBA, 7 DAYS LATER,
WEIGHING 127 POUNDS.
LOST 41 POUNDS THAT
WEEK SEASICKNESS.

Mike says MARRIED AT 18,
COLONEL.

Colonel Sanders says RIGHT, THEN I
CAME BACK.
THAT'S RIGHT.
I GOT MY DISCHARGE.
I ONLY HAD TO STAY
ABOUT HALF OF THAT DAY,
A FEW DAYS OVER.
CAME BACK TO ALABAMA WHERE
I HAD AN UNCLE THAT WAS
A RAILROAD MAN, ENGINEER
ON THE SOUTHERN.
HE GOT ME A JOB CLEANING
ASH PANS, AND FILLING
THE SAND BOXES,
GETTING THE ENGINES
READY FOR THE
NEXT DAY'S TRIP.
ONE MORNING, A FIREMAN
DIDN'T SHOW UP.
AND I ENSURED THE ENGINEER
I COULD FIRE THAT TRAIN.
SO HE DID LET ME TRY
TO FIRE THAT TRIP.
COME BACK, I DID SO
WELL, HE ASKED ME
FOR A REGULAR FIREMAN.
I WAS 16 AND A HALF YEARS
OLD, COULDN'T GET A JOB
WITHOUT A MINOR'S RELEASE.
SO MOM SIGNED A MINOR'S
RELEASE FOR THEM TO HIRE ME.
AND I STAYED THERE THEN FOR
5 YEARS AND 12 DAYS.
MAKING A MAN'S WAGES, AND
KEEPING MY MOTHER AND
BROTHER AND SISTER, YOU
SEE, TOO, IN THEIR HOME.
SO I JUST NEEDED ME A
WIFE AT 18 YEARS OLD.
I HAD ENOUGH TO KEEP 'EM.

Mike says YOU HAD 3 CHILDREN, AND
I UNDERSTAND YOU'VE GOT
5 GRANDCHILDREN NOW, AND
12 GREAT-GRANDCHILDREN.

Colonel Sanders says THAT'S RIGHT.

Mike says YOUR BOY DIED AT 20.

Colonel Sanders says HE DIED AT AGE 20, YES.
HE HAD A TONSIL OPERATION
AND GOT A STREPTOCOCCUS GERM
IN THE BLOODSTREAM,
AND BLOOD POISONING
SET UP ALL OVER HIS BODY.
IF WE'D HAVE HAD PENICILLIN
IN THOSE DAYS, WHY,
OF COURSE, HE'D PROBABLY
BE ALIVE TODAY.

Mike says SO YOU WORKED ON THE
RAILROAD, YOU WORKED
AS A FARMER, YOU TOOK A
CORRESPONDENCE COURSE
TO BECOME A LAWYER, BUT
NEVER TOOK THE BAR.

Colonel Sanders says NEVER FINISHED
THAT, YES.

Mike says YOU WERE A FERRY
BOAT OPERATOR?

Colonel Sanders says WELL, THAT'S WHEN I COME BACK
IN AFTER BEING IN ALABAMA.
SO I CAME BACK AND
ORGANIZED THE FERRY
TRANSPORTATION COMPANY.
OPERATE BETWEEN LOUISVILLE
AND JEFFERSONVILLE.
THEN I WENT AHEAD IN CHAMBER
COMMERCE WORK FROM THEN ON.

Mike says 1930, WE'VE GOT THE
DEPRESSION ON US.
YOU'RE 40 YEARS OF AGE.
AND YOUR LIFE IS
ABOUT TO BEGIN.

Colonel Sanders says WILL ROGERS MADE
THIS STATEMENT-
“LIFE BEGINS AT 40.”
WELL, I HADN'T CALCULATED
WHAT IT MEANT TO ME UP THERE.
I THOUGHT, MY GOD, IF THIS
IS JUST THE BEGINNING,
I'LL COMMENCE NOW.
AND I THOUGHT, WHAT DO I
WANT TO DO FOR THE FUTURE?
I KNEW I DIDN'T WANT TO
TAKE UP ANY OF THE THINGS
I'D BEEN DOING
IN THE PAST.
BUT I HAD A LITTLE LUNCHROOM
IN MY SERVICE STATION,
AND GASOLINE WAS
SELLING WELL.
PEOPLE GOTTA HAVE GAS,
IF THEY HAD TO SELL THEIR
MOTHER-IN-LAW'S CHICKEN
TO BUY IT, YOU SEE?
AND THEY HAVE TO EAT IN THE
NEXT 2 OR 3 DAYS.
IF THEY DON'T EAT ONE
DAY, THEY'D EAT THE NEXT.
SO I THOUGHT THAT WOULD
BE THE THING TO TIE TO,
WAS FOOD AND GASOLINE.
WELL, IN ABOUT 3
YEARS, THE FOOD
HAD RUN AWAY
FROM THE GAS.
IN OTHER WORDS, THE GASOLINE
WAS A NUISANCE TO ME
BY THAT TIME.
SO WE DROPPED THE
SERVICE STATION IDEA,
AND JUST STAYED
WITH FOOD.
AND KENTUCKY FRIED CHICKEN
WAS THE OUTGROWTH OF THAT.
YOU SEE, FROM ME TRYING
TO HAVE THE BEST FOOD
FOR MY CUSTOMERS THAT
WAS POSSIBLE TO HAVE.

Mike says SO IT WAS VERY POPULAR
ALL OVER KENTUCKY,
YOUR LITTLE RESTAURANT.

Colonel Sanders says YES, SIR.
AND EVERYBODY ATE WITH
ME FROM ALL OVER
THE UNITED STATES; IT
WAS GOOD WITH THEM.

Mike says IN THE DEPRESSION,
THOUGH, COLONEL,
WHAT A TIME TO
START A BUSINESS.

Colonel Sanders says THAT'S A FACT.
WELL, I GUESS
YOU TRY HARDER.
I'D ALWAYS BEEN A
POOR BOY ALL MY LIFE,
YOU SEE, AND
DIDN'T KNOW IT.

Mike says YOU THOUGHT IT WAS
ALWAYS THAT WAY.

Colonel Sanders says YEAH, I THOUGHT IT
WAS ALWAYS THAT WAY.
JUST HAD TO
MAKE A LIVING.
AND THIS HAPPENED TO BE
SOMETHING THAT'D TAKEN HOLD.

Mike says AND IT WENT.

Colonel Sanders says AND IT WENT.

Mike says AT 66 YEARS OF AGE,
IN 1956, YOUR LIFE
IS ABOUT TO BEGIN AGAIN.

Colonel Sanders says YES.
WELL, THE MORAL TO MY LIFE
IS DON'T QUIT AT AGE 65
BECAUSE MAYBE YOU'LL
MISS YOUR BOAT.
MINE DIDN'T COME
IN 'TIL I WAS 66.

Mike says WHAT WAS THE BOAT,
COLONEL?

Colonel Sanders says WELL, MY BOAT HAPPENED TO
BE THE CHICKEN BUSINESS.
AND OF COURSE I
GOT ON WITH IT,
AND WE'VE BEEN
GOING EVER SINCE.
TODAY, WE ARE IN 40
COUNTRIES AROUND THE WORLD
WITH 5,400 AND
SOME-ODD STORES.

Mike says BUT AS I UNDERSTAND THE
STORY, THEY HAD REROUTED
OR BUILT THE NEW HIGHWAY
PAST YOUR GAS STATION.

Colonel Sanders says THAT DROVE ME INTO
FRANCHISING, YES.

Mike says AND YOUR BUSINESS THEN,
YOUR LITTLE RESTAURANT
WAS GOING DOWNHILL
BECAUSE THE CARS
WEREN'T GOING BY THERE
ON THE WAY TO MIAMI.

Colonel Sanders says THAT'S RIGHT.

Mike says AND YOU DECIDED TO
GO INTO FRANCHISING.
YOUR FIRST FRANCHISEE
WAS IN SALT LAKE CITY.

Colonel Sanders says YES.
I WENT OUT THERE.
I KNEW THIS BOY AND
THOUGHT IT WOULD BE EASY
TO PERSUADE HIM TO TRY THE
FRANCHISE, AND TO DETACH
FROM THE SOUTHEASTERN
PART OF THE COUNTRY,
SEE HOW THE NAME,
KENTUCKY FRIED CHICKEN,
AND THE SEASONING WOULD
TAKE WITH THE PEOPLE THERE.
AND I WAS ON MY WAY
TO AUSTRALIA THEN.
I WAS GOING OVER
TO AUSTRALIA.
I USED TO CURSE,
YOU KNOW, BY NOTE.
OH, I WAS CURSING FROM THE
TIME I WAS 16 YEARS OLD.
AND I WANTED TO QUIT.
I COULDN'T DO IT.

Mike says TO QUIT CURSING?

Colonel Sanders says WANTED TO QUIT
CURSING.
JUST LIKE SOMEBODY
SMOKING CIGARETTES TODAY,
THEY SAY THEY
CAN'T QUIT.
I COULDN'T QUIT.
SO I WENT TO THE WORLD
CONVENTION OF CHRISTIAN
CHURCHES IN AUSTRALIA, ALL THEM
PREACHERS AND CHURCH PEOPLE,
THINKING I'D GET AN
INSPIRATION WHERE I WOULD
COME BACK AND COULD CONTROL
MYSELF AND LIVE WITH GOD
ALMIGHTY AS I SHOULD.
I COME BACK JUST
LIKE I WENT AWAY.
[laughing]

Mike says BUT NOT WORSE.

Colonel Sanders says NOT WORSE.
SO SEE, I WAS A
6TH GRADE DROPOUT,
I HAD A VERY LIMITED VOCABULARY,
BUT THOSE CUSS WORDS,
THEY GAVE ME PUNCH LINES, BY
JOVE, TO GET THINGS DONE.

Mike says YOUR SECOND FRANCHISE WAS
IN CALGARY, IN CANADA?

Colonel Sanders says THAT'S RIGHT.
BARNEY GELFAND.

Mike says WAS THAT ANOTHER
FRIEND?

Colonel Sanders says NO, DIDN'T EVEN
KNOW HIM.

Mike says DIDN'T KNOW HIM.

Colonel Sanders says HE'D HEARD OF PETER
HARMAN, BUSINESS
HE WAS DOING, YOU KNOW?

Mike says DOWN IN SALT LAKE CITY.

Colonel Sanders says IN SALT LAKE CITY.
SO HE WROTE FOR IT.

Mike says SO THE THING REALLY
TOOK OFF AND SPREAD,
IN 1964, AS WE SAID EARLIER,
YOU SOLD FOR 2 MILLION DOLLARS,
THE WHOLE FRANCHISE.

Colonel Sanders says YES.
BUT THE PEOPLE I SOLD
TO FOR 2 MILLION DOLLARS,
THEY SOLD TO HEUBLEIN FOR 283
MILLION THE PRESENT OWNERS.

Mike says 7 YEARS LATER
AFTER YOU SOLD.
273 MILLION DOLLARS.

Colonel Sanders says AND THIS YEAR THEY WILL DO
OVER A BILLION DOLLARS
IN CHICKEN BUSINESS.

Mike says WOW.
COLONEL, I'D LIKE TO GET
IN, NOW, TO A LITTLE BIT
OF YOUR PHILOSOPHY.

Colonel Sanders says I DON'T KNOW WHETHER
I HAVE ANY OR NOT.

Mike says WELL, THEY SAY YOU'RE
A RELIGIOUS PERSON.

Colonel Sanders says WELL, MAYBE NOT RELIGIOUS.
I SAY I'M A CHRISTIAN.

Mike says HAS RELIGION BEEN A
FACTOR IN YOUR LIFE?
I KNOW IT DIDN'T HELP
YOU STOP SWEARING.

Colonel Sanders says LISTEN, WE'VE GOT TO HAVE
GOD ALMIGHTY WITH US
OR WE CAN'T SUCCEED.
WHEN I STARTED THIS
CHICKEN BUSINESS,
MY RESTAURANT BUSINESS
WAS GONE, WASN'T IT,
BY THE MOVING OF
THE HIGHWAY.
AND I THOUGHT, TRY
THIS CHICKEN BUSINESS.
I PROMISED GOD ALMIGHTY
THAT IF IT MADE GOOD,
HE WOULD CERTAINLY
GET HIS SHARE.
AND IT'S BEEN THE GREATEST
BLESSING IN THE WORLD
TO BE ABLE TO SEE
THAT HE DOES THAT.
GIVE YOUR TITHES REGULARLY,
AND I'VE MADE BIG MONEY,
AND THAT'S MADE THE
TITHES EVEN BIGGER.
THE FIRST TITHE CHEQUE
I GAVE WAS 50,000 DOLLARS,
DON'T YOU SEE, 10 PERCENT
ON THE FIRST 500,000 DOLLARS
I GOT ON THE BUSINESS,
DOWN PAYMENT.

Mike says RIGHT.

Colonel Sanders says SO WE BUILT A CITADEL
FOR THE SALVATION ARMY
THERE IN EAST LOUISVILLE.
AND IT'S BEEN A GREAT
BLESSING TO POOR PEOPLE,
THE NEIGHBOURHOOD.
AND THEY LEAD A LOT
OF PEOPLE TO CHRIST.

Mike says YOU'RE AN ABSTAINER, AND
YOU'RE A NON-SMOKER.

Colonel Sanders says THAT'S RIGHT.
AND I'M NOT GOING TO
TAKE IT UP NOW BECAUSE
I'VE GOT 14 MORE YEARS
TO GO, 14 AND A HALF YEARS
TO FINISH OUT
THIS CENTURY.
AND I'LL GET TO THAT MARK,
THEN I'M GOING TO JOIN
THE SENIOR CITIZENS FOR 3
OR 4 YEARS AND QUIT
SOMEWHERE ALONG THE LINE.

Mike says YOU'RE A GREAT BELIEVER,
COLONEL, IN INTEGRITY,
AND AS YOU'VE SAID,
PERSEVERANCE.

Colonel Sanders says LISTEN, WITHOUT INTEGRITY,
IT'S JUST A TERRIBLE THING.
YOU DEAL WITH SOMEBODY THAT
DOES NOT HAVE INTEGRITY,
YOU DON'T KNOW IF HIS
PRODUCT IS HONEST,
WHAT HE'S TELLING
YOU IS HONEST.
INTEGRITY IS ONE OF THE
GREATEST RULES OF LIFE,
DON'T YOU SEE.
NO QUESTION ABOUT IT.

Mike says WHAT DO YOU THINK OF
BUSINESS TODAY,
BUSINESSMEN TODAY, FOR
EXAMPLE, IN THE UNITED STATES?
DO YOU THINK THERE'S
A LOSS OF INTEGRITY?

Colonel Sanders says AN AWFULLY LOT OF IT.
I JUST HAD A BUSINESS
TRANSACTION, THE DAY BEFORE
COMING UP HERE, 3
DAYS AGO, MONDAY.
MY WIFE SOLD HER DINING ROOMS says
CLAUDIA SANDERS DINNER HOUSES,
AND THEN FRANCHISED A
MAN TO OPERATE THEM.
HE HAS GOT SOME FELLOWS
A HOLD OF HIM NOW
TO BUY THE RIGHTS NOW,
FROM MY WIFE.
MY PRICE IS 5,000 DOLLARS
FOR A FRANCHISE
AND 3 PERCENT
OF YOUR GROSS.
AND HERE, HE HAD A
PROSPECTUS WRITTEN UP
FOR THIS MAN TO GET 3 MILLION
FOR IT, AND MADE A PRICE
OF 20,000 DOLLARS FOR THE FRANCHISE,
AND A NICKEL A HEAD.
SO THAT EXTRA 2 CENTS ABOVE
THE 3 PERCENT SHE WANTS,
WHETHER SHE HAS TO GO TO
HIM AND HIS BUDDIES,
I WOULDN'T PARTICIPATE
IN IT AT ALL.
I WOULDN'T THINK
OF SUCH A THING.

Mike says DO YOU FIND ANY DIFFERENCE
IN CANADIAN BUSINESSMEN?
IS THE HANDSHAKE
STILL A VALID THING?

Colonel Sanders says HANDSHAKE GOES
UP HERE.

Mike says IT'S STILL GOES
UP HERE.

Colonel Sanders says ACTUALLY, IT'S BEEN
SUCH A PLEASURE,
IT'S THE REASON I
WANTED TO PROTECT
THE CANADIANS ON
THIS COMPANY.
WE HAD HAD THE
FINEST RELATIONSHIP.
NEVER WAS A GROUP OF FINER
MEN IN THE COUNTRY
THAN MY FRANCHISEES
IN CANADA.
'COURSE, WE GOT A LOT OF
FINE ONES IN THE STATES.
BUT IT'S GETTING SO DOWN
THERE THERE ARE MORE SHYSTERS
IN THE SQUARE INCH THAN THERE
IS IN A SQUARE MILE UP HERE.

Mike says THE SOCIETY IN GENERAL,
THE AMERICAN SOCIETY,
DO YOU THINK IT'S IN
TROUBLE, COLONEL?

Colonel Sanders says IF THEY GO THE RATE THEY
ARE, THEY WILL BE, YES.
DON'T KNOW WHAT
IT'S GOING TO BE
WHEN THE YOUNG
FOLKS COME IN.
BUT WE HAVE CERTAIN GROUPS
DOWN THERE THAT GIVES YOU
A LOT OF ENCOURAGEMENT
THAT THE COUNTRY
WILL BE SAFE AND
ALL RIGHT.
I WAS IN KANSAS CITY
AT A CONVENTION
AT THE NATIONAL
STOCK SHOW.
THERE WAS 20,500 FUTURE
FARMERS OF AMERICA THERE.
THEY WERE THE
FINEST YOUNG FOLKS.
THEY WERE ALL ENGAGED IN THE
FARM LIFE, DON'T YOU SEE?
THEY HAD A PURPOSE
FOR LIVING.
WE TAKE OUR CITY BOYS, SO
MANY OF THEM, BY GOLLY,
HAVEN'T GOT
ANYTHING TO DO.
LABOUR LAWS HAVE
RUINED A LOT OF THEM.
A CHILD CAN'T GO TO WORK
WHEN HE IS 14, 15 YEARS OLD,
NO MATTER HOW HEALTHY HE IS,
AND A JOB THAT HE CAN DO.
BUT THEY DON'T
ALLOW HIM TO WORK.
SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT'S
GOING TO COME OF IT.

Mike says WHAT DO YOU THINK OF
THE POLITICAL SCENE?
THE AMERICANS HAVE BEEN
THROUGH A TERRIBLE, TRAUMATIC
TIME WITH WATERGATE
AND WHATNOT.
BUT WHAT'S YOUR FEELING?

Colonel Sanders says I LIKE Mr. FORD,
AND I LIKE THE WAY
HE'S GOING BECAUSE
HE'S HONEST.
MAYBE HE'S TOO MUCH
LIKE A FARMER,
OR COUNTRY BOY IN
HANDLING THINGS.
I THINK THE POLITICIAN
MAY ACTUALLY BE ABLE
TO WHIP HIM OUT.

Mike says THINK WE'RE IN FOR BETTER
DAYS FOR POLITICIANS?
HAS THERE BEEN
A PURIFICATION?

Colonel Sanders says WELL, I THINK AFTER
ANOTHER ADMINISTRATION.
DEPENDS ON WHAT WE
PUT IN THIS TIME
WHETHER WE ARE OR NOT.

Mike says I'VE READ THAT YOU-
AND YOU OBVIOUSLY
ARE A VERY TRUSTING HUMAN
BEING, AND THAT'S BEEN BUILT UP
OVER A LIFETIME OF
TRUSTING PEOPLE.
WHEN YOU LOOK BACK TO 1964,
AND YOU SOLD FOR 2 MILLION DOLLARS,
AND 7 YEARS LATER THE
GROUP YOU SOLD TO SOLD
FOR 273 MILLION, DO YOU
THINK, PERHAPS, THERE,
COLONEL, YOU WERE
TOO TRUSTING?

Colonel Sanders says NO, THAT WAS
ALL RIGHT.

Mike says YOU DON'T FEEL
YOU WERE TAKEN?

Colonel Sanders says THE PEOPLE I SOLD TO,
WITHOUT MAKING ANY DIRECT
ACCUSATIONS, I'D SAY
GENERALLY THEY HAD A LACK
OF INTEGRITY TOWARDS
THE FRANCHISEES
ON MOST EVERYTHING
THEY DONE.
THEY RUN UNREASONABLE
PRICING, AND COMPELLING THEM
TO BUY THINGS THEY
DIDN'T HAVE TO HAVE,
OR SHOULDN'T HAVE PUT INTO
THEIR PLACES, YOU SEE?

Mike says THESE ARE THE PEOPLE
THAT BOUGHT IT OFF YOU.

Colonel Sanders says BOUGHT IT OFF OF ME.
AND OF COURSE, THEY
CLEANED UP WHEN THEY SOLD.
LOOK AT THE
MILLIONS THEY HAD.
I THINK ONE OF THEM CLEANED
UP WITH 62 MILLION,
AND THE OTHER,
33 MILLION.
JUST A YOUNG MAN.

Mike says ARE YOU MORE PLEASED
WITH THE NEW OWNERS?

Colonel Sanders says OH, YES, I LIKE
THE NEW OWNERS.
OH, YES.
IT'S A MATTER OF
BUSINESS WITH THEM.

Mike says WHAT ABOUT THE WHITE
SUIT AND THE CANES?
HOW DID THAT GET
STARTED?

Colonel Sanders says YOU DON'T NEED THE CANE
ANYMORE THAN I NEED
THESE WHISKERS I'VE GOT.
THEY KIND OF GO WITH
THE COLONEL'S PATTERN,
DON'T YOU SEE?
BUT THE WHITE SUIT HAS
BECOME A TRADEMARK NOW.
I CALL IT MY PRISON GARB
BECAUSE I DON'T HAVE
A CHANCE TO WEAR ANYTHING
ELSE, DON'T YOU SEE?
BUT I WAS ON TELEVISION
FOR THE FIRST TIME
IN COLORADO SPRINGS, AND
IT WAS THE SUMMERTIME
AND I HAD A WHITE
PALM BEACH.
AND WHEN I COME OFF, THERE
WERE SOME OTHER GROUPS
OBSERVING THE SHOW SAID
YOU DON'T HAVE NO IDEA,
COLONEL, YOU STOOD OUT
OVER ALL THE OTHER MEN
WITH YOUR WHITE
CLOTHES ON.
WELL, I HAD NO MONEY FOR
ADVERTISING, SO I PUT THAT
DOWN IN MY BOOK, YOU KNOW,
AS ONE THING, MUST BE A GO,
THESE WHITE CLOTHES.
THAT ATTRACTS ATTENTION, WHO
ARE YOU? AND WHAT ARE YOU?
AND THAT WINTER, I HAD A
CHANCE, I WAS IN VANCOUVER,
BRITISH COLUMBIA, AT A
FRANCHISE OVER THERE,
AND A MAN WAS SELLING,
TAKING CLOTHING FOR ORDERS
FOR SOME TAILOR
HERE IN THIS TOWN.
AND HE HAD IN HIS SAMPLES A
HEAVY WHITE WOOL SUITING.
I HAD HIM MAKE
ME A SUIT.
SO I WORE WHITE
THAT WINTER.

Mike says DO YOU EVER WISH YOU COULD
GET OUT OF THE COSTUME?

Colonel Sanders says NOT ANYMORE.
IT'S ALL RIGHT.
JUST BECOMES A
PART OF IT.

Mike says YOUR LOVE FOR CHILDREN, ONE
OF THE STRONG PASSIONS
OF YOUR LIFE, REALLY.

Colonel Sanders says THEY'RE THE SWEETEST
THINGS IN THE WORLD.
I THINK ONE OF THE GREATEST
PROGRAMS WE EVER HAD,
ONE I ENJOYED MORE
THAN ANYTHING ELSE
WAS ART LINKLETTER
WHEN HE HAD HIS.
HE ALWAYS HAD A GROUP
OF KIDS ON HIS PLACE.
HE'D ASK QUESTIONS
ABOUT THEIR HOMELIFE,
AND ABOUT DAD AND MUM.
AND IT WAS JUST
WONDERFUL.
I KNOW IT'S EMBARRASSING TO
THE PARENTS A LOT OF TIME
THE WAY THEY SPILL BEANS.
BUT HE IS THAT
HONEST, DON'T YOU SEE?
DIDN'T TELL ANY STORIES, IT
WAS JUST THE EXPERIENCES
OF LIFE HE'D OBSERVED
UP 'TIL THEN.
BUT THEY'RE GREAT.
CHILDREN ARE JUST
SO FULL OF LOVE.
AND I CAN'T UNDERSTAND says
I'D HELP LYNCH ANYBODY
THAT WHIPS A CHILD, I MEAN,
BEATS THEM, YOU KNOW,
LITTLE BABES, LIKE YOU READ
IN THE PAPER, WHERE THEY'VE
BEEN BRUISED AND BROKEN.
IT'S JUST AWFUL.

Mike says I'VE GOT ONE,
2 BIG QUESTIONS.
ONE, IN THE COMMERCIALS,
HOW DO YOU GET UP
ON THE ROOF OF
THE STORE?

Colonel Sanders says THEY PUT YOU UP THERE WITH
ONE OF THESE CHERRY PICKERS.

Mike says REALLY?

Colonel Sanders says THEN THEY COME
LET YOU DOWN.
LIKE THIS COMMERCIAL
ON THIS BIG BARREL.
IT'S 27 FEET HIGH,
YOU SEE?

Mike says THAT'S THE ONE, THAT'S
THE ONE, WITH THE BARREL.

Colonel Sanders says UH-HUH.
AND THEY PUT ME AND
ALL MY MEN UP THERE,
THE ASSISTANT MANAGERS TO
MAKE THIS COMMERCIAL.
AND THAT WAS
SHAKY, TOO.
ME, I CAN'T
STAND H8.
AND TO SIT ME OUT THERE
ON THE END OF THAT BOON
WITH A LITTLE
ROCKING BUCKET.
THE BUCKET ROCKED,
DON'T YOU SEE,
AND I WAS AFRAID IT
WOULD TURN ON OVER.

Mike says WELL, YOU LOOK
GOOD IN IT ANYWAY.
NOW, THE BIG QUESTION,
COLONEL, THE RECIPE.

Colonel Sanders says OH, YES.
WELL, NOW, THAT I
HAVEN'T GOT WITH ME.

Mike says HAVEN'T GOT
IT WITH ME.

Colonel Sanders says EVERYBODY, YOU KNOW WHAT,
THAT RECIPE, I'LL TELL YA,
OUT OF THE 5,000 STORES
IN THE COUNTRY, NOT ONE
OF THEM HAS GOT THE
RECIPE FOR FRIED CHICKEN.

Mike says OUT OF THE 5,000.

Colonel Sanders says OUT OF THE 5,000; WE
COULDN'T HAVE KENTUCKY
FRIED CHICKEN TO BE AS
UNIFORM, IF WE LEFT IT
TO 5,000 DIFFERENT
COOKS TO MAKE IT UP.

Mike says SO HOW DO YOU DO IT?

Colonel Sanders says WE HAVE ONE MANUFACTURER
THAT MAKES PART OF IT,
AND ANOTHER SPICE MAN
MAKES THE OTHER PART.

Mike says OH, I SEE.

Colonel Sanders says AND THEN THEY'RE PUT
TOGETHER TO BE MIXED AND
PACKAGED AND SENT OUT AND
SHIPPED ALL OVER THE WORLD.
SO IF YOU EAT KENTUCKY
FRIED CHICKEN HERE,
OR YOU EAT IT IN TOKYO, IT'S
GOING TO TASTE JUST THE SAME.

Mike says NOW, ONE OF THE BIG
ACCIDENTS THAT REALLY
HELPED YOU WAS THE
INVENTION OF THE PRESSURE
COOKER IN 1939.
ISN'T THAT RIGHT?

Colonel Sanders says THAT'S RIGHT.
SEE, I HAD THE SEASONING
GOING ALL RIGHT
BECAUSE I'D ALWAYS
CONSIDERED CHICKEN
NORTH AMERICA'S
HOSPITALITY DISH.
I DON'T CARE IF YOU'RE KING,
PREACHER, POTENTATE,
OR WHO COME, WE'LL GIVE HIM
A GOOD FRIED CHICKEN DINNER,
WE'LL GIVE 'EM THE BEST THE
AMERICAN TABLE COULD AFFORD.
SO US 3 AND I PAID
ATTENTION TO MY CHICKEN,
AND I DEVELOPED
THAT SEASONING.
BUT ABOUT 6,
7 YEARS LATER,
HERE COME THE
PRESSURE COOKER.
WELL, FRIED CHICKEN, WOULD
TAKE ME, 30, 35 MINUTES
TO FRY GOOD PAN
FRIED CHICKEN.

Mike says NOW, YOU COULD DO
IT IN 7 MINUTES.

Colonel Sanders says NOW I COULD DO IT
IN 7 MINUTES.
JUST ONE LITTLE
EXPERIMENT.
I WAS COOKING
VEGETABLES SO QUICKLY,
THE THOUGHT COME TO MY MIND,
I WONDER IF I COULDN'T
FRY THIS CHICKEN AND
SHORTEN THE TIME.

Mike says AND YOU DID.

Colonel Sanders says AND IT'S BEEN THE GREATEST
BOOM THAT'S EVER HAPPENED.

The title of the show appears on screen in large white letters.

Music plays as the end credits roll.

Guests, Colonel Harland Sanders.

Story editor, Patricia Lockie.
Director, David Moore.

Producer, Clifford Solway.

Executive producer, Mike McManus.

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