Transcript: Ep 2 - After the Rush | Mar 06, 2019

Logo: TVO Original.

A caption reads "TVO presents."

Old clips show images of workers in a mining town.

A man says MINING TOWNS
HAVE ALWAYS BEEN FRONTIERS,
AND PEOPLE COME FOR
ALL KINDS OF REASONS.
SOME PEOPLE COME BECAUSE
THEY'VE RUN OUT OF OPTIONS
EVERYWHERE ELSE,
AND THEY GET TO START OVER.
NOBODY GAVE ANYBODY
ANYTHING HERE.
PEOPLE HAD TO FIGHT FOR IT.

A woman says IT BECOMES AN AREA
WHERE PEOPLE REALIZE THAT, YEAH,
THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY
FOR ME TO ACTUALLY
MAKE MY FORTUNE IN THE NORTH.

Another man says I KNOW THERE WAS A LOT OF
MINES AROUND HERE, BACK IN...
WHEN I WAS YOUNGER.
THERE WAS LOTS,
AND LOTS OF 'EM CLOSED.

A man on a recording says WE'RE HOPING
TO REALLY TRACK MINES,
AND MINING INDUSTRY SUPPLIERS.

A reporter says LOSING KIDS'
BUSINESS WILL BE TOUGH
ON THE LOCAL ECONOMY.

Another man says TIMMINS IS
A BIG MINING PLACE.
THERE'S DEFINITELY
A LOT OF MINES HERE.

The first man says THE ECONOMY
IS WRITTEN BY MONEY.
NOTHING QUITE
REPLACES A MINE.
I THINK WE'RE PROBABLY ON THE
BEGINNING OF A NEW GOLDEN ERA
OF MINING IN THE NORTH.
NOTHING'S EVER EASY
WHEN YOU'RE IN THE NORTH,
AND NOTHING'S EVER EASY
IN A MINING TOWN.
IT'S JUST THE WAY
WE'RE HARDWIRED.

Another man says WHAT HAPPENS WHEN
THIS LAST BIG MINE IS EMPTY?
PART OF THE ANSWER IS, THERE'S
PROBABLY MORE GOLD THERE,
A LOT MORE GOLD THERE.

The title of the show reads "Northern gold. After the rush."

The caption changes to "Doctor David Robinson. Economist, Laurentian University."

David is in his fifties, with short receding gray hair and wears glasses and a black T-shirt under a black shirt.

David says GOLD IS A WONDERFUL
TOPIC FOR AN ECONOMIST.
GOLD IS A METAL WITH...
WITH SORT OF NEAT PROPERTIES.
BUT THE TRUTH IS THAT 78 percent
OF THE WORLD'S PRODUCTION
OF GOLD JUST
GOES INTO JEWELLERY.
IT THIS HUGE VALUE
WORLDWIDE, AND YET,
ALL PEOPLE DO WITH IT
IS HANG IT ON THEIR WRIST,
OR PUT IT IN THEIR LOCKERS
AND UNDER THEIR BED!
GOLD IS PRIMARILY
A HISTORIC STORE OF WEALTH,
AND IN THE MODERN WORLD,
A SPECULATIVE RESOURCE.
GOLD IS THE MOST
EXPLORED MINERAL IN THE WORLD.
AND THAT MEANS
THERE ARE PROBABLY LESS
GREAT OPPORTUNITIES
FOR A GREAT DISCOVERY.

Shawn and his wife store clothing items in boxes.

Shawn is in his fifties, bald and with a moustache. He wears glasses, jeans, a gray sweatshirt and a black cap hat.

His wife is in her forties, with long straight brown hair with bangs and wears jeans and a gray sweater.

Shawn says I'LL PASS THEM TO YOU.
YOU CAN PLACE THEM THE WAY
YOU WANT, OR WHATEVER.

His wife says WE'RE GOING TO
HAVE TO LABEL THESE, BECAUSE...

Shawn says YEAH, WE CAN'T SEE 'EM.
THAT'S WHY I SAID THAT.

The wife says WELL, THE BEST
PART ABOUT THIS IS IF
WE'RE PUTTING OUT BOOTS AWAY,
MAYBE THERE'LL BE NO MORE SNOW.

Shawn says YEAH, YOU KEEP DREAMING.

The wife says RIGHT?

Shawn says KEEP DREAMING ABOUT THAT.

The caption changes to "Shawn Turcotte. 3rd Generation miner."

Shawn says TIMMINS,
IT'S A SMALL TOWN.
IT'S A GOOD PLACE
TO RAISE A FAMILY.
ME AND MY WIFE, WE HAVE
OUR HUNTING LICENSE.
WE LIKE TO GO FISHING,
AND SOMETHING WITH THE WIFE,
TO BASICALLY SPEND TIME,
QUALITY TIME.

Shawn opens a safe in his garage and says THERE, NOW
WE CAN OPEN IT UP.

Shawn says RIGHT NOW AT THE MOMENT,
I WORK IN A MILL.
AND I'VE PROBABLY BEEN
IN THE MILL FOR 15 YEARS,
AND 13 YEARS UNDERGROUND.
THERE'S MY WIFE'S.

He grabs a pink riffle from the safe and says MY WIFE'S GOT A NICE GUN.
4-10.
IT'S PINK.
IT'S GOTTA BE PINK.

The wife says I'M NEW.
I JUST STARTED HUNTING,
PROBABLY 3 OR 4 YEARS AGO.

Shawn says I LET MY KIDS ALSO TOO.
OH, YEAH.

The wife says WE USED TO GO OUT
WHEN THEY WERE YOUNGER,
LIKE AS A...
THE FIVE OF US.

Shawn says OH, GOD,
THAT WAS A HORROR SHOW.
IT'S LIKE A HEARD OF
ELEPHANTS WERE BEHIND ME.

The wife says THEY'RE A LOUD GROUP.

Shawn laughs.

(music plays)

Shawn says MY SON, SHANE,
HE'S A GOOD WORKER.
SO WHEN HE FINISHED HIGH SCHOOL,
I WAS HOPING THAT, YOU KNOW,
HE'D MAYBE GO TO A NORTHERN
COLLEGE, AND YOU KNOW,
GET A TRADE.
LIKE BE A MECHANIC,
OR A MILLWRIGHT,
OR AN ELECTRICIAN, YOU KNOW?
SO HE WOULDN'T HAVE
TO WORK UNDERGROUND.
IT DIDN'T HAPPEN.
HE GOT A TASTE OF MONEY, SO...
THAT'S WHAT HAPPENS,
YOU GET A TASTE OF MONEY,
AND YOU DON'T WANT
TO GO BACK TO SCHOOL,
SO THAT'S WHAT BASICALLY
HAPPENED TO HIM.

The caption changes to "Shane Turcotte. 4th Generation miner."

Shane is in his thirties, with short wavy brown hair and a goatee. He wears black trousers and a black T-shirt.

Shane says MY NAME IS
SHANE TURCOTTE.
I'M FROM TIMMINS, ONTARIO.
I'M A MINER.
I'VE BEEN THERE FOR 7 YEARS.
I STARTED AS A DRY MAN.
IT'S LIKE A JANITOR.
I WORKED MY WAY UP.
IF I WANT TO DO SOMETHING,
I PRETTY MUCH PICK UP AND GO.
I'M SINGLE WITH NO KIDS.
SO I FEEL LIKE I WANT
TO DO EVERYTHING NOW,
AND NOT LATER ON,
KIND OF THING.
MY DAD LOVES IT
WHEN WE ALL GET TOGETHER.
OH, YEAH, BIG TIME.
ESPECIALLY NOW, SINCE
MY SISTERS HAVE...
I HAVE A NIECE AND A NEPHEW.
WE TRY TO DO DINNER
A COUPLE TIMES A MONTH,
ALL DEPENDING ON...
WE ALL WORK DIFFERENT HOURS.
ME AND MY DAD ARE LUCKY,
WE ARE ON THE SAME ROTATION,
JUST DIFFERENT MINES.
LIKE IF I WORK
NIGHT SHIFT OR DAY SHIFT,
WE TRY TO HAVE DINNER A LITTLE
EARLIER OR A LITTLE LATER.
I'M THE KIND OF GUY
THAT I PREFER NIGHT SHIFT,
BEFORE A DAY SHIFT.
LESS BOSSES AROUND.
IT'S... YOU GET MORE STUFF DONE.
THE RADIO'S NOT ALWAYS
CONSTANTLY GOING DOWN THERE.
I SLEEP BETTER DURING THE DAY
THAN I DO AT NIGHT.
SO, IF I COULD GO FULL-TIME
NIGHT SHIFT, I WOULD.

The caption changes to "Charlie Angus. Member of Parliament and author."

Charlie is in his fifties, with short wavy white hair and wears glasses and a red jacket.

Charlie says THE SEARCH FOR GOLD
IS THE FOUNDING MYTH
OF THE AMERICAS.
THE SPANISH HAD THE MYTH OF
EL DORADO, THE GOLDEN CITY.
AND THEY PLUNDERED
SOUTH AMERICA;
THEY PLUNDERED UP
IN THROUGH MEXICO.
THEY DESTROYED INDIGENOUS
EMPIRES TO GET GOLD.
THE AMOUNT OF
SILVER AND GOLD
THAT WAS COMING OUT OF
THE AMERICAS TURNED SPAIN
INTO AN INTERNATIONAL
POWERHOUSE,
UPENDED THE FEUDAL ORDER,
AND SET ALL
THE EUROPEAN COUNTRIES
ON THE PATH OF
COLONIALISM AND PLUNDER.
GOLD HAS NO VALUE.
THE ONLY VALUE GOLD HAS
IS WHAT WE ASCRIBE TO IT.
PEOPLE GO TO EXTRAORDINARY
LENGTHS TO FIND IT,
EVEN COMING UP HERE IN
THE MUSKEG AND THE BLACK FLIES
AND THE SNOW TO POUND
ROCKS TO SEARCH FOR IT.
AND LO AND BEHOLD,
THIS IS WHERE IT IS.

The caption changes to "Chief Chad Boissoneau. Mattagami First Nation."

Chad is in his fifties, with short straight black hair and wears glasses, jeans, a white shirt and a yellow vest with fringes.

Chad says I'M FROM, UH,
MATTAGAMI FIRST NATION,
APPROXIMATELY 85 KILOMETRES
SOUTH OF TIMMINS.
WHAT I LOVE ABOUT
LIVING HERE IS THAT
WE HAVE A VAST WILDERNESS
THAT YOU CAN, UH,
GET OUT ON THE LAND
AND FISH AND HUNT,
AND PRACTICE OUR
TRADITIONAL CULTURE.
I HOLD A FEATHER TO HELP GUIDE
ME AND GIVE ME THE WISDOM,
AND, YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES
THE COURAGE TO SPEAK
ABOUT MY COMMUNITY
AND TELL THE STORIES
OF WHAT HAS TRANSPIRED
OVER THE LAST
HUNDRED YEARS OR SO.
JUST FROM THE KNOWLEDGE THAT
THE ELDERS HAVE SHARED WITH ME.
BACK IN THE LATE 1800'S
AND EARLY 1900'S,
IN THOSE DAYS THERE WAS
VERY MINIMAL CONTACT
WITH THE EUROPEAN SETTLEMENT.
WE HAD A TRADING POST
LOCATED ACROSS THE RIVER
FROM OUR COMMUNITY,
IT WAS CALLED
THE HUDSON BAY TRADING POST.
THAT WAS ONE OF
THE AREAS THAT MEMBERS
OF THE MATTAGAMI FIRST NATION
WOULD GATHER
DURING THE SUMMER MONTHS,
AND TRADE THEIR FURS,
CELEBRATE THEIR CULTURE,
AND TRADE STORIES OF
WHAT HAPPENED THE YEAR PRIOR
ON THEIR TRAPLINE.
JUST BE ABLE TO...
ENJOY EACH OTHER'S COMPANY.
IN 1866, A MAN BY
THE NAME OF DUNCAN WAS...
WORKED FOR THE CROWN,
AND HE WAS IN THIS AREA
MAPPING OUT THE TERRITORY,
AND DURING THOSE
TRAVELS HE RAN INTO
MANY FIRST NATION FAMILIES,
GOT TO MEET THE PEOPLE,
AND WE WERE QUITE
A WELCOMING CULTURE.
MORE AND MORE, THE EUROPEAN
SETTLEMENT WERE
MAKING THEIR WAY THROUGH,
THEY WERE MAPPING OUT
THE RIVERS AND THE
CONTOURS OF THE LAND,
AND IN TURN,
THEY WERE IDENTIFYING
THE TYPES OF MINERALS
WITHIN OUR TERRITORY.

Pictures and clips show images of the Mattagami family gathering and working in the area.

Chad says IT DIDN'T TAKE TOO MANY
YEARS FOR THEM TO COME IN
AND STAKE CLAIMS THROUGHOUT
THE WHOLE TERRITORY.
OUR TRAPLINES WERE
AFFECTED BECAUSE
THESE PEOPLE THAT WERE
STAKING THE CLAIMS
BASICALLY PUSHED US
OFF OUR TRAPLINES.
A LOT OF OUR FIRST NATION
COMMUNITY WAS RELOCATED.
OUR BOUNDARIES WERE IDENTIFIED
TWO OR THREE DIFFERENT TIMES.
WE DIDN'T HAVE MUCH SAY AS TO
WHAT HAPPENED WITH OUR TERRITORY
IN THOSE DAYS.
A LOT OF OUR ELDERS SAY
HOW FRUSTRATING IT WAS
FOR THEM TO HAVE TO RELOCATE.
THERE WERE SOME PEOPLE WERE
ACCUSTOMED TO CERTAIN AREAS
FOR ALL THEIR LIFE,
IT WAS QUITE AN IMPACT ON THEM
TO HAVE TO, YOU KNOW,
MOVE AND REBUILD
AND START OVER AGAIN.
THE CROWN SAID, "THIS IS
WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN,"
AND WE HAD NO CHOICE.
THE IMPACT
ON OUR TREATY LANDS,
THE IMPACT ON OUR TRADITIONAL
LANDS, OUR CULTURE,
THE TRAPPING, THE FISHING,
ALL THOSE...
ALL THOSE AREAS ARE
AFFECTED BY THESE MINES,
AND THE LAND IS...
VERY SPIRITUAL TO US.
THE CREATOR WHO OWNS
THIS TERRITORY IS NOT US,
SO WE UTILIZE WHAT
THE CREATOR GIVES TO US
IN A SUSTAINABLE WAY.
MINING IS NOT
A SUSTAINABLE INDUSTRY.
ONCE THE RESOURCES ARE GONE,
AND IT'S EXTRACTED
FROM THE GROUND, YOU KNOW,
THERE'S NO MORE, SO THE IMPACT
IS DONE ON THE TERRITORY.

A reporter says LOCAL BUSINESSES
ARE PREPPING FOR THE DAY
THE CITY'S BIGGEST
EMPLOYERS CLOSES SHOP.
GLENCORE'S KIDD OPERATIONS IS
PLANNING TO SHUT DOWN BY 2021.

A man says IT'S GONNA BE
A SIGNIFICANT IMPACT.
HOPEFULLY THERE WILL BE
OTHER MINES OPENING UP
TO TAKE THEIR PLACE.

The reporter says AS THEY GET CLOSER
TO THEIR SHUTDOWN DATE,
THEIR 960-PERSON WORKFORCE
WILL ALSO SHRINK.

The caption changes to "Dan Andreatta. Timmins Resident."

Dan is in his sixties, with short straight white hair and wears dark gray trousers and a light gray shirt.

Dan says OUR MAIN INDUSTRY
WAS MINING,
AND... AND FORESTRY,
AND THE FOREST INDUSTRY HAS
ALMOST CLOSED DOWN IN TIMMINS.
AND MINING IS
SLOWLY DISAPPEARING.
ALL OUR YOUNG PEOPLE
WILL BE GOING SOUTH,
AND ALL THE OLD PEOPLE
WILL BE STAYING HERE,
BECAUSE THEY CAN'T
SELL THEIR HOMES.
COSTS TO LIVE HERE,
LIKE OUR TAXES,
MUNICIPAL TAXES,
ARE PROBABLY THE HIGHEST
IN THE PROVINCE OF ONTARIO.
OH, OUR TAXES
ARE THREE TIMES
WHAT YOU PAY
IN THE CITY OF TORONTO.
THERE'S NO REVENUE
COMING INTO OUR COMMUNITY.
WE USED TO DEPEND TOTALLY
ON MINING AND FORESTRY, MAINLY,
BUT... THEY'RE
NOT HERE ANYMORE.
WE'RE... NOT AS OPTIMISTIC
AS WE USED TO BE
IN THIS COMMUNITY, SO...

The caption changes to "Orval Turcotte. 2nd Generation miner."

Orval is in his seventies, bald and with a moustache. He wears glasses, gray trousers, a gray shirt and a black sweater vest.

Orval says AT ONE TIME...
I THINK IT'S LIKE THAT, THOUGH,
IN A LOT OF TOWNS AND CITIES,
IS THAT WE DIDN'T HAVE MALLS,
AND USUALLY YOUR MAIN
STREETS WERE ALWAYS BUSY.
WELL, NOW THERE'S A LOT OF TIMES
YOU COULD SHOOT A CANON DOWN
YOUR MAIN STREETS,
AND YOU WON'T HIT ANYBODY.
IN 1956,
I WAS UNDERGROUND.
BUT I WAS ONE OF THE FEW GUYS
THAT WERE HIRED,
BECAUSE THEY DON'T
HIRE THAT MANY,
AND I JUST HAPPENED TO BE LUCKY
THAT MY DAD WAS WORKING THERE
AND HE WAS A TERRIFIC WORKER
AND GOT ALONG WITH EVERYBODY.
SO THEY INTERVIEWED ME AND THEN
THEY TURNED AROUND AND HIRED ME.
YOU KNOW,
IN MY LIFETIME,
I SEEN THREE BIG MINES,
YOU KNOW, GOING DOWN.
YOU'RE TALKING
ABOUT THE MCINTYRE,
A LITTLE OVER 1,400 MINERS;
HOLLINGER, OVER 1,500;
AND THEN TEXAS GULF.
AND NOW,
IN A COUPLE OF YEARS,
IT APPEARS THAT...
TEXAS GULF IS GONNA CLOSE.
IT CAN'T LAST FOREVER,
BECAUSE EVERY TIME
THEY TAKE A SHOVELFUL...
WHEN YOU SAY YOU
DISCOVERED A MINE,
THERE'S A MYTH THERE.
THEY SAY,
"OH, THERE'S A NEW MINE!"
BUT THE PROBLEM IS,
IS THAT EVERY TIME
YOU TAKE A SHOVELFUL OF ORE OUT,
THE MINE IS DYING.
NO MATTER IF IT WAS ONLY
DISCOVERED YESTERDAY,
AND YOUR FIRST
SHOVELFUL IS TODAY...
IT'S DYING.

Charlie says MINING WAS REALLY
ROOTED IN THE AMERICAN WEST.
AND IT
MOVED INTO CANADA
FROM THOSE AMERICAN
WESTERN ROOTS.
SO WHEN THE MINING STARTED
IN NORTHERN ONTARIO,
THERE WAS VERY MUCH A WIDE-OPEN
"WESTERN FRONTIER" SPIRIT
THAT CAME OUT OF
THOSE AMERICAN TOWNS.
A LOT OF THAT ENERGY
CAME TO THE PORCUPINE,
AND SO TIMMINS REALLY
REPRESENTS THE TRANSITION
FROM THAT SORT OF WIDE-OPEN
COWBOY WESTERN CULTURE,
TO THE MODERN
INDUSTRIAL COMPANY TOWN.
AFTER THAT,
ALL THE TOWNS THAT
CAME AFTER TIMMINS WERE MUCH
MORE DEFINED BY THE COMPANIES,
BY SOCIAL PLANNING OF HOW THEY
DEVELOPED THEIR COMPANY TOWNS
AND THEIR STREETS.
YOU KNOW, THE WESTERN
COWBOY CULTURE DIED HERE,
AND THE MODERN INDUSTRIAL
COMPANY TOWN WAS BORN.

David says BACK BEFORE 1850,
ONE OF MY FAVOURITE CHARACTERS
IS AN ABORIGINAL LEADER,
[ABORIGINAL NAME],
WHO SAID, "WE SHOULD
RUN OUR OWN TERRITORY.
"NATIVES, IMMIGRANTS AS WELL,
WE'LL ALL DO IT TOGETHER.
"WE WANT TO CONTROL THE
NATURAL RESOURCE EXPLOITATION.
"WE WANT TO KEEP 2 percent OF
THE NATURAL RESOURCE WEALTH."
THAT DOESN'T SEEM
UNREASONABLE, DOES IT?
SO WHAT THEY DID IS,
THE GOVERNMENT OF ONTARIO
MADE IT ILLEGAL
TO WORK WITH NATIVES
OVER THEIR LAND CLAIMS
AND THEIR RIGHTS.
SO THAT MEANS THAT
FROM THE VERY BEGINNING,
THE POLITICAL SUPPRESSION OF THE
POPULATION IN NORTHERN ONTARIO
WAS A KEY PART OF...
ONTARIO'S DEVELOPMENT STRATEGY.
IT WAS LITERALLY
A HANDFUL OF FAMILIES
EXPLOITING THE RESOURCES
OF THE REGION
AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE.
THEY WERE DELIGHTED
TO HAVE NORTHERN ONTARIO
BECAUSE THEY COULD SELL
IT OFF TO THEIR FRIENDS,
AND THEY DID.
I THINK MOST
NORTHERN ONTARIANS, IN FACT,
ARE AWARE THAT THEY'RE
BEING RUN FROM OUTSIDE,
AND ARE A LITTLE BIT RESENTFUL,
RANGING TO A LOT RESENTFUL
ABOUT THE COLONIAL STATUS.
BUT I THINK AN
AWFUL LOT OF NORTHERN ONTARIANS
DON'T THINK THAT WE HERE
COULD RUN THE PROVINCE.
AND I THINK THAT'S FASCINATING,
BECAUSE THAT'S
ONE OF THE CLASSIC
STRATEGIES OF COLONIALISM:
"YOU'RE TOO STUPID
TO RUN YOUR OWN COUNTRY.
"YOU NEED US
COLONIAL ADMINISTRATORS."
THAT'S THE KIND OF THING
THAT SOUTHERN ONTARIO
SAYS IN NORTHERN ONTARIO,
AND PEOPLE HERE,
A LOT OF PEOPLE BUY IT.
THE HISTORY OF NORTHERN ONTARIO
IS SINGLE-INDUSTRY TOWNS
RUN BY MANAGERS
WHO COME FROM OUTSIDE,
AND ESSENTIALLY LOWER-CLASS
PEOPLE WHO DO AS THEY'RE TOLD.
AND THAT ISN'T
A SOCIAL STRUCTURE
THAT'S INNOVATIVE
OR IS SELF-GOVERNING.
IN FACT, IT'S ONE THAT'S
REALLY QUITE DESIGNED
FOR OPPRESSION, RIGHT?

[EXPLOSIONS]

Clips show explosions at a mine.

[EXPLOSIONS]

Shane says I JUST LEFT HIGH SCHOOL,
AND I GOT INTO A MINE.
AND THEN I SEEN
MY FIRST PAYCHEQUE,
AND IT JUST GOT BETTER
EVERY YEAR, SO...
I JUST KEPT DOING IT.
[LAUGHS]

Shane says IT'S JUST A DIFFERENT
WORLD DOWN THERE.
THERE'S NO DAYLIGHT, YOU HAVE
A LITTLE LAMP ON YOUR HARDHAT.
ROCK TO YOUR RIGHT,
ROCK TO YOUR LEFT,
ROCK ON TOP OF YOU,
JUST ROCKS EVERYWHERE.

The caption changes to "Bobby Cyr. Miner."

Bobby is in his forties, with short brown hair and a shadow of a beard. He wears a black T-shirt and a gold chain.

Bobby says THE TRICK IS, IS TO NOT
THINK ABOUT WHAT'S ABOVE YOU.
BECAUSE IF YOU DO,
THEN IT GETS TO YOU, RIGHT?
AFTER A WHILE,
YOU JUST DON'T EVEN REALIZE
YOU'RE UNDER
A MILLION TONNES OF ROCK!
[LAUGHS]

Bobby says SUCH HIGH PRODUCTION,
THEY WANT AS MUCH ROCK
AS POSSIBLE TO PRODUCE
THE OUNCES THAT THEY REQUIRE.
GOTTA GET THAT ROCK UP, RIGHT?
IT'S A VERY
MONOTONOUS JOB.
IT'S UP, DOWN,
UP, DOWN.
YOUR BRAIN JUST GOES ON
AUTOPILOT, AND YOU'RE JUST...

Shane says MY BODY'S
SO USED TO THAT KIND OF,
THIS DOING THE SAME ROUTINE
ALL THE TIME, ACTUALLY.
AND THAT'S WHAT
YOU GOTTA DO.
MOSTLY IT'S AFTER...
OH, THERE'S MY BOSS, ACTUALLY.

[PHONE RINGING]

Shane picks up and says UM...
HELLO?
AH, FUCK.
I'D ACTUALLY JUST RATHER
MOCK-MANAGE, TO BE HONEST.
I DON'T LIKE WORKING FOR THEM.
[LAUGHS]
WHATEVER.
YEAH, PUT ME THERE, I GUESS.

He hangs up and says I ALWAYS DO A LOT OF
OVERTIME, LIKE,
THE FIRST THREE MONTHS
OF THE YEAR.
AND IN SUMMERTIME,
I WON'T DO ANY OVERTIME.
AND THEN IN THE END, THE LAST
THREE MONTHS OF THE YEAR,
I'LL PICK UP AGAIN.

Bobby says I'VE WORKED JOBS WHERE
YOU WORK 28 DAYS STRAIGHT,
AND IF YOU'RE 28 DAYS NIGHT
SHIFTS, YOU WORK FROM 7 TO 7,
WELL, AFTER A WEEK AND A HALF,
YOUR DAYS...
YOU DON'T EVEN KNOW
WHAT DAY IT IS ANYMORE.
YOU JUST GET UP,
EAT, SLEEP, WORK.
THE DAYS JUST BLEND TOGETHER,
BUT I JUST WANTED
TO MAKE SIX FIGURES.
THAT WAS MY GOAL ON A TRUCK.
[LAUGHS]

Shane says I FEEL LIKE WHEN I WORK
OVERTIME, I GET BETTER JOBS.
AND THEY GO BY
SO MUCH FASTER.
MORE MONEY TOO, SO...

Bobby says PEOPLE ARE LIKE,
"OH THE MONEY'S SO GOOD."
YOU KNOW, "IT'S NOT FAIR
THAT YOU GET PAID THIS."
WELL, YOU KNOW WHAT?
GO...
GO UNDERGROUND,
GO SEE HOW IT IS.
JUST THE AIR YOU BREATHE
IS NOT CLEAN AIR.
DOESN'T BOTHER ME.
I LAUGH WHEN THEY SAY,
"NO SMOKING UNDERGROUND."
"OH, BREATHE THIS BLUE AIR,
BUT DON'T SMOKE A CIGARETTE.
"THAT SHIT'LL KILL YA."
[LAUGHS]
YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN?
BUT IT IS WHAT IT IS.
THE TRICK IS TO NOT
BE A COMPLAINER.
BE A YES MAN.
YOU JUST GO IN, DO YOUR JOB,
AND HOPE FOR THE BEST.

Shane says MY DAD DID NOT WANT ME
TO WORK UNDERGROUND, AT FIRST.
BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE
HE WENT, RIGHT?
HE WENT MINING RIGHT AWAY.
AND WHEN I TOLD HIM I WANTED
TO DO IT, HE TOLD ME NO.
BUT, YOU KNOW, I CHOOSE
TO WORK UNDERGROUND.

Shawn says IT'S A GOOD PAYING JOB.
IT'S A GOOD JOB,
LIKE, YOU KNOW, AND...
THAT'S WHAT YOU NEED
IN LIFE, I GUESS.
SO YOU CAN GET THE
THINGS THAT YOU WANT,
AND PROVIDE FOR YOUR FAMILY.
WHEN SOMEBODY GETS
HURT UNDERGROUND,
IT'S THINGS LIKE THAT
THAT...
MAKES YOU THINK.
I REMEMBER ONE GUY,
A PIECE OF LOOSE
CAME DOWN AND KILLED HIM.
IT'S UNFORTUNATE
THINGS LIKE THAT, BUT...
YOU JUST DON'T EXPECT IT.
WHEN I SEE PEOPLE GETTING
KILLED OR HURT REALLY BAD,
I THINK OF MY SON,
LIKE, YOU KNOW,
HOPING THAT NEVER
HAPPENS TO HIM,
OR HE NEVER COMES
ACROSS SOMETHING...
A SITUATION LIKE THAT
THAT I'D HATE TO SEE HIM
PUT HIMSELF INTO.
DOES HE SAY YES,
OR DOES HE SAY NO,
WHEN IT'S DANGEROUS?
OR DOES HE JUST DO IT?
DOES HE CUT CORNERS
TO GET HIS JOB DONE?
AND THAT'S SOMETHING
I WOULDN'T WANT TO SEE.
LIKE... I ALWAYS FELT THE WORK
SAFE, LIKE, YOU KNOW, SO...
YEAH, THAT'S WHAT IT IS,
MINING, SO...

Charlie says EARLY ON, THE
CONDITIONS WERE SO DANGEROUS.

Dan says PEOPLE DIED
YOUNG, YOU KNOW,
AND THOSE WHO SURVIVED
WERE OFTEN NOT WELL.

Charlie says JUST THE DANGER THAT
THEY WERE FACING UNDERGROUND.
THE FIRST UNIONS GOT ORGANIZED
IN TIMMINS IN AROUND 1910-11,
AND THE FIRST GENERAL STRIKE
HERE WAS IN 1912-13,
AND IT WAS A BRUTAL STRIKE.
MANY IMMIGRANT MINERS
WERE DEPORTED AFTERWARDS.
THE FIRST WORLD WAR CAME ALONG
AND THEY INTERNED,
AS PRISONERS OF WAR,
MANY OF THE IMMIGRANT...
UKRAINIANS AND POLISH MINERS.
MANY OF THEM HAD BEEN
ORGANIZING IN THE UNIONS.
THE WAR ENDED AND THERE
WAS A HUGE BACKLASH
AGAINST THE EASTERN
EUROPEAN WORKERS.
CANADA WAS IN A REALLY DARK
PERIOD AGAINST IMMIGRATION.
THEY WERE FIRING PEOPLE,
DEPORTING THEM,
AND THEY BROKE
THE UNION THEN, 1919,
WHICH WAS THE OFFSHOOT
OF THE WESTERN
FEDERATION OF MINERS.
SO THEY WENT ABOUT ANOTHER
10 YEARS WITHOUT A UNION.

Dan says THERE WERE SOME VERY
SEVERE STRIKES, THAT TOOK PLACE,
AND THERE WAS SOME
BRUTALITY THAT TOOK PLACE.

Charlie says THERE WAS A LOT OF
TENSION AND PRESSURE
IN THESE COMMUNITIES,
BECAUSE THEY JUST WANTED
TO HAVE A DECENT LIVING.

[SIRENS]

Charlie says IN 1928,
THE HOLLINGER MINE,
THERE WAS A HORRIFIC
FIRE UNDERGROUND.
THERE WAS NO MINE
RESCUE ANYWHERE IN CANADA.
THEY HAD TO BRING UP
A MINE RESCUE TEAM
FROM COLEFIELD,
PENNSYLVANIA.
THE TRAIN DROVE
AT BREAKNECK SPEED
FROM PENNSYLVANIA
THROUGH A SNOWSTORM.
BY THE TIME THEY
GOT TO TIMMINS,
ALL THE MEN WHO WERE STILL
UNDERGROUND WERE DEAD.
THAT HOLLINGER FIRE
CAUSED A HUGE PUSH
FOR UNION ORGANIZING.
Charlie says THE FACT THAT
THESE MEN HAD DIED SO...
IN A FIRE THAT
WAS SO UNNECESSARY,
TO THEM WAS A REASON
TO START ORGANIZING
TO GET UNION PROTECTION.

Dan says IT TOOK A LONG TIME
FOR THE UNIONS TO MAKE INROADS
IN THE PORCUPINE,
BUT EVENTUALLY
UNIONS WERE ACCEPTED
AND CONDITIONS IN THE MINES
IMPROVED DRAMATICALLY,
INCLUDING WAGES.
WE GOT BETTER CONDITIONS,
SHORTER HOURS, SAFER CONDITIONS,
AND PENSION PLANS WHICH DIDN'T
EXIST AT ONE TIME, FOR MINERS.

Charlie says PEOPLE STILL GET SICK,
PEOPLE STILL GET INJURED,
IT IS A ROUGH
AND TOUGH INDUSTRY.
BUT THE LEVELS OF SAFETY
THAT YOU SEE
IN THE CANADIAN MINES NOW
ARE SO MUCH HIGHER.
AND THAT'S BECAUSE OF
THE KIND OF MILITANT ACTION
THAT WAS BROUGHT ABOUT
IN COMMUNITIES LIKE TIMMINS,
FROM DAY ONE.
THE REASON WE HAVE
THE WORKERS COMPENSATION
ACT IN ONTARIO
IS THE DIRECT RESULT OF
THE MINERS GOING DOWN
TO QUEENS PARK TO SAY THAT
WHEN A GUY HAS A STEEL BAR
FALL ON HIM, 300 FEET,
AND IT GOES THROUGH HIS BACK,
HIS FAMILY SHOULD
GET COMPENSATION.
THEY HAD TO GO DOWN
WITH THAT KIND OF EXAMPLES.
SO WE HAVE
THE WORKERS COMPENSATION ACT
BECAUSE OF THAT.
THERE WAS A LOT OF TRAGEDY HERE
AND A LOT OF HEARTBREAK,
BUT OUT OF THAT,
WE HAVE BUILT, CERTAINLY,
AN INDUSTRY THAT'S MUCH SAFER,
AND ACROSS ONTARIO
AND ACROSS CANADA,
AN AWARENESS OF WORKERS' SAFETY
THAT I THINK WE CAN
BE VERY PROUD OF.

At home, Shawn plays a card game with Orval and says OKAY, OKAY.
[LAUGHS]
AH...
NOT TOO MUCH TALKING
IN A GAME LIKE THIS.
CONCENTRATION, LIKE HE LIKES
TO TRY TO BEAT ME, SO...
[LAUGHTER]

Orval says STARTING ALREADY, EH?

Shawn says I PICK ON HIM, EH?
WE LIKE TO TEASE EACH OTHER.

Orval says HE CAN'T TAKE
A JOKE, THOUGH.
THAT'S WHY WE DON'T TALK.

Shawn says OH, MY GOD.
I GOT A TERRIBLE CARD.

Orval says OH...
AH, SINCE I WAS YOUNG
THE FAMILY BASICALLY
ALWAYS PLAYED
CARDS AT THE HOUSE.
EVEN WHEN THEY
WERE LITTLE KIDS,
THEY ALWAYS SAT AT
THE TABLE WITH US.
THE GROWN UPS AND THE CHILDREN,
ALL PLAYING CARDS.

Shawn says YOU KNOW,
EVEN MY KIDS TODAY...
"OH, DAD, WHEN ARE WE
GONNA PLAY SOME CARDS?"
AND THIS AND THAT.
THEY JUST LOVE PLAYING CARDS.
OH-HO-HO... YOU HAD TO
PUT THAT ONE THERE.
I GUESS I'LL HAVE TO
PUT THAT ONE HERE.
MY FATHER WORKED IN
A RAISE FOR A LOT OF YEARS.
AND IT'S CONFINED, EH?
IT'S A SMALL SPACE.
AND WITH THE NOISE,
IT ECHOES,
SO YOU LOSE A LOT OF HEARING.
AND BLASTING.
BACK THEN THE BLASTING
WAS A LITTLE DIFFERENT,
COMPARED TO TODAY.

Orval says I... I GET TIRED.
AND I CAN'T WALK THAT FAR.
IT LOOKS GOOD
WHEN I STARTED OFF,
BUT I THINK A LOT OF MINERS
GET LIKE THAT EVENTUALLY,
YOU KNOW?

Shawn says YEAH, THERE'S
LOTS OF PROBLEMS.

Orval says YEAH.

Shawn says ARTHRITIS.
GOT IT IN MY NECK.
I GOT EVERYTHING
IN MY NECK.
THAT'S FROM BOUNCING AROUND
ON A SCOOP SIDEWAYS, EH?

Orval laughs.

Shawn says I'VE GOT TWO DISCS
THAT ARE MESSED UP
IN THERE, SO...
AND MY HANDS,
AND THAT'S ABOUT IT.
SO I'VE BEEN PRETTY LUCKY.
AND THE VIBRATION, LIKE,
YOU KNOW, OF THE MACHINES.
LIKE, YOU KNOW...
IT'LL CAUSE YOU PROBLEMS
WHEN YOU GET A LITTLE OLDER.
YOU MIGHT NOT
FEEL IT NOW, BUT,
WHEN YOU GET A LITTLE
OLDER YOU WILL.

Orval says OH!
I DIDN'T NOTICE THE FOUR KINGS!

Shawn says YEAH.
IT'S ALRIGHT.

Orval sighs.

Orval says THERE'S A LOT OF
PEOPLE, THEY SAY,
"I'VE GOTTA MAKE A LOT
MORE MONEY FOR RETIRING."
OKAY?
I THINK THAT'S
THE WRONG CONCEPT,
BECAUSE THAT'S NOT
WHAT'S IMPORTANT.
WHAT'S IMPORTANT
WHEN YOU RETIRE
IS YOUR HEALTH.
AND IF YOU HAVEN'T
GOT THE BENEFITS
TO COVER YOUR HEALTH
AFTER YOU'RE RETIRED,
THAT PENSION THAT YOU EARNED,
YOU'LL BURN IT UP.

Old pictures of a handsome man with a moustache appear with the caption "Art Turcotte."

Orval says MY DAD WAS
A HARD, HARD MINER.
HE WAS IN
THE EARLY 30'S.
EVERYTHING WAS
DONE BY HAND.
THEY WOULD DRILL
AND BLAST, AND THEN
THEY WOULD COME IN
AND MUCK IT OUT BY HAND.
AND THEY WOULD KEEP
ON GOING LIKE THAT.
MY DAD DIED
OF SILICOSIS.
WE'RE SHORT OF BREATH.
IT ATTACKS YOUR LUNGS, YEAH.
HE WENT TO BED, WENT
FOR A REST, A LITTLE NAP,
AND HE NEVER WOKE UP.

Charlie says ONE OF THE DOWNSIDES
OF GOLD MINING IS THAT
THE GOLD IS FOUND
IN QUARTZITE VEINS.
AND WHEN YOU CUT
QUARTZ WITH A DRILL,
THE QUARTZ FIBRES
ARE LIKE GLASS,
AND THEY EMBED IN THE LUNG.
AND IN TIMMINS,
WITH THE GOLD MINING,
THE HEALTH EFFECTS
WERE CATASTROPHIC.
YOU END UP
WITH LUNG CANCERS,
YOU END UP WITH SILICOSIS.
IF YOU LOOK AT
THE GRAVEYARDS IN TIMMINS,
ANYBODY WHO IS OF UKRAINIAN,
CROATIAN, EASTERN EUROPEAN,
ITALIAN BACKGROUND,
UP TO THE SECOND WORLD WAR,
IF YOU GO THROUGH
THE GRAVES,
THEY'RE DEAD 41, 41,
41, 42, 43, 41...
I MEAN, THESE MEN
WERE VERY STRONG, HEALTHY MEN
WHEN THEY CAME,
AND THEY WERE DYING VERY YOUNG.
THERE WAS A CONCERTED
EFFORT BY INDUSTRY,
AND THE MEDICAL COMMUNITY,
AND THE GOVERNMENT TO DENY
THE THREAT OF
WHAT WAS APPARENT,
WHICH WAS THAT PEOPLE
WERE DYING FROM EXPOSURE
TO GOLD AND SILICA DUST.
THIS WENT ON FOR DECADES.
IMMIGRANT WOMEN WERE
CONTINUALLY DENIED
BASIC COMPENSATION.
THEY LIVED A REALLY
HORRIFIC SHADOW LIFE
IN THESE COMMUNITIES,
BECAUSE TO ADMIT
THAT THEIR HUSBAND DIED
BECAUSE OF INDUSTRIAL ILLNESS
WOULD BE TO PUT AT RISK
THE SUPPOSED ECONOMIC BASE
OF THE COMMUNITY, SO...
THERE WAS A LOT WIDOWS
WHO WERE COMPLETELY
MARGINALIZED.
INDUSTRY AND THE MEDICAL
COMMUNITY CAME UP WITH
ALL KINDS OF CRAZY REASONS
WHY THESE MEN WERE DYING.
ONE DOCTOR SAID THAT IT WAS
EAST EUROPEAN BROCCOLI
CAUSED SOMETHING
IN THE STOMACH.
THAT'S WHY THE MEN
GOT STOMACH CANCER.

Newspaper articles appear with headlines that read "Percentage of deaths due to silicosis in the mines," "Union complains to council about low compensation for silicosis," and "Miners' union takes up matter of silicosis compensation."

Orval says THEY EITHER TURNED
AROUND AND SAID IT WAS TB,
OR YOU SMOKED TOO MUCH.
MY FATHER-IN-LAW
DIED OF SILICOSIS,
ACCORDING TO
HIS FAMILY DOCTOR.
BUT THEY WON'T TAKE
THAT DOCTOR'S ADVICE.
BECAUSE YOU HAD TO BE
THEIR DOCTOR TO CLAIM
THAT YOU HAD SILICOSIS.

Charlie says WHAT ENDED UP
HAPPENING IN THE 1980'S,
A CAMPAIGN WITH
THE STEEL WORKERS,
INTERVIEWING WIDOWS
OF MEN WHO DIED,
IDENTIFIED WHERE
THEY HAD WORKED,
WHAT CONDITIONS THEY WORKED IN,
AND THEN TRYING TO FIND
OTHER PEOPLE WHO WORKED
IN THOSE SAME CONDITIONS.
AND YOU BEGAN
TO DRAW A PICTURE:
CERTAIN MEN IN CERTAIN MINES
WERE DYING AT A MUCH
HIGHER RATE DEPENDING ON
WHERE THEY WORKED IN THE MINE.
I THINK IT WAS 1988
BEFORE THE FIRST
LUNG CANCER COMPENSATION
WAS EVER AWARDED TO A WIDOW.
THAT WAS A LANDMARK DECISION.
THERE ARE MANY OF THOSE WIDOWS
STILL HERE IN TIMMINS.
A LOT OF WORK HAD TO BE DONE
TO FORCE GOVERNMENT
TO RECOGNIZE THAT
THIS WAS A PROBLEM,
AND THEN TO START
TO CLEAN IT UP.

Playing cards, Orval says THAT'S THE KILLER.

Shawn says THAT'S 16, THERE.

Orval says I DIDN'T EVEN SEE THAT.

Shawn says THAT'S ALRIGHT,
THAT'S ALRIGHT.
I FORGIVE YA.

Orval says WELL, OKAY.

Shawn says 20...

Orval says I DON'T KNOW,
I THINK I'VE ACCEPTED THAT,
ABOUT SHANE, YEAH.
BECAUSE THE WAY IT IS NOW
IN A MINE IS NOT LIKE
WHEN MY DAD AND MYSELF
WERE WORKING IN THE MINES.
THERE'S MUCH MORE SAFETY.
IT'S BETTER FOR YOUR HEALTH,
AS FAR AS YOU'VE GOT THE MASK,
YOU'VE GOT EAR PLUGS.
AND NOW, WHAT IT IS, WHEN
YOU SEE A MINER UNDERGROUND,
YOU THINK HE'S
OUT OF THIS WORLD.
SO THEY GOT MORE PROTECTION,
SO I DON'T FEEL BAD
AT ALL ABOUT IT.

Shawn says IT'S JUST MY SON,
LIKE, YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN?
LIKE, I'LL ALWAYS
WORRY ABOUT MY KIDS.
MAYBE IT'S NOT A GOOD THING
TO ALWAYS THINK NEGATIVE.

Orval says YEAH, BUT HE'S
WORKING IN A DRIFT,
SO THERE'S LESS CHANCE
OF SOMETHING HAPPENING.

Shawn says YEAH, HE'S
WORKING IN A DRIFT.

Orval says THAN THERE IS, LET'S SAY,
IN A STOPE, OR IN A RAISE.
BECAUSE IN A RAISE
YOU CAN DROP DOWN, OKAY?
AND YOU'RE DEAD.
IN A STOPE YOU CAN TURN AROUND,
AND A LOOSE CAN FALL ON YOU.
BUT IN A DRIFT,
YOU'RE DRILLING STRAIGHT AHEAD
AND YOU'RE ON THE GROUND.
IT'S NOT TO SAY THAT SOMEBODY
DOESN'T GET HURT, THOUGH.
BUT THE CHANCES OF GETTING
KILLED IN A DRIFT,
VERSUS, LET'S SAY,
IN A STOPE,
THERE'S A BIG DIFFERENCE.

Shawn says LIKE, HE WORKED
IN A RAISE,
AND I WORKED IN A STOPE.
MY SON WORKS IN THE DRIFT.
IT'S... THERE'S
THREE DIFFERENT...
THREE DIFFERENT SCENARIOS
RIGHT THERE, SO...

Orval says THIS IS TERRIBLE.

Shawn says I SWAPPED
A COUPLE OF CARDS AROUND
WHILE YOU WERE TALKING.

Orval says I BELIEVE YOU!
WHERE'S ALL MY FIVES?
[LAUGHTER]

Orval says AH...
HERE.

[MACHINES RUNNING]

Shane says I'M A BOLTER.
I MAKE EVERYTHING SAFE
FOR PEOPLE TO WALK,
AND MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S
NO ROCKS THAT FALL ON THEM.
NOW, THE NEW GENERATION
IS ALL EQUIPMENT.
BACK IN THE DAY, THEY
USED TO USE A SLEDGEHAMMER
TO BREAK THE ROCK.
NOW, WE HAVE A MACHINE THAT,
YOU PRESS A BUTTON,
AND IT BREAKS IT FOR YOU.

The caption changes to "Danielle Bochove. Reporter, Bloomberg News."

Danielle is in her forties, with shoulder-length, slightly wavy blond hair with bangs and wears black trousers, a white tip and a black blazer.

Danielle says WHAT'S
INTERESTING ABOUT MINING,
IS THAT IN A LOT OF WAYS,
IT CHANGED SO LITTLE
FOR SO LONG.
THE ENTIRE INDUSTRY IS FOCUSED
RIGHT NOW ON DIGITIZATION.
YOU WILL SEE FAR MORE
AUTONOMOUS VEHICLES.
I THINK YOU'LL SEE
FEWER PEOPLE.

Shane says THE THING THAT
WE DO BY HAND, STILL,
IS JACKLEG AND STOPER.
THAT'S WHAT I DO.
YOU DRILL AND THEN
YOU PUT A BOLT IN,
TO MAKE IT SAFE
FOR EVERYBODY ELSE.
IF WE DON'T FEEL SAFE,
WE LEAVE,
AND THEN THEY'LL
BRING IN A MACHINE
AND THEN PRETTY MUCH
HAVE ONE GUY ON IT,
AND IT DOES IT ALL BY
REMOTES AND MAKES IT SAFE.

Danielle says BUT THERE'S
ALWAYS DISRUPTION
WITH TECHNOLOGY, RIGHT?
AND I'M SURE
SOME PEOPLE WILL
FEEL DISRUPTED BY IT.
AS DIGITAL TECHNOLOGY BECOMES
EMBRACED BY THE INDUSTRY,
PEOPLE ARE GOING TO HAVE
TO CHANGE THEIR SKILL SET.
BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY,
THE RESOURCE HAS TO BE EXTRACTED
FROM WHERE IT IS.
SO THERE ARE ALWAYS GOING
TO BE JOBS IN THE FIELD;
YOU'RE ALWAYS GOING
TO NEED PEOPLE
WITH OPERATIONAL EXPERIENCE WHO
ARE ACTUALLY AT THE MINE SITE.
BUT THE MORE EQUIPMENT
THAT BECOMES OPERATED REMOTELY,
THE MORE YOU CAN REMOVE SOME
OF THOSE JOBS TO HEAD OFFICE.
THAT IS ABSOLUTELY THE CASE.
WHETHER THIS ENDS UP
BEING GOOD FOR A COMMUNITY
DEPENDS HOW IT'S IMPLANTED
BY THE MINING COMPANY.

Charlie says MINES ARE REALLY GOOD
FOR THE LOCAL ECONOMY,
BUT THEY CAN ALSO
BE VERY ADDICTIVE.
THE PROBLEM IS, WHEN
A MINE SHUTS DOWN,
IT ALSO CAUSES AN ENORMOUS
AMOUNT OF ECONOMIC CATASTROPHE.
AND TIMMINS HAS ALWAYS
BEEN REALLY LUCKY
BECAUSE EVERY TIME A MINE,
BIG MINE, SHUTS DOWN,
ANOTHER NEW MINE
SEEMS TO BE STARTING UP.
BUT THAT'S NOT THE BEST WAY TO
RUN AN ECONOMY IN THE LONG TERM.
TRYING TO FIND THAT DIVERSIFIED
ECONOMY IS SOMETHING
THAT'S ALWAYS BEEN A STRUGGLE
IN ANY OF THE
NORTHERN COMMUNITIES.

Dan says WE HAVE TO DEVELOP
OUR ENTIRE PROVINCE, I THINK,
IF WE'RE GOING TO
SURVIVE AS A COUNTRY.
YOU KNOW, WE CAN'T JUST LIVE
IN THE BORDER AREA OF CANADA.
WE HAVE TO DEVELOP THE REST
OF OUR COUNTRY AS WELL.
AND OUR POLITICIANS HAVE
TO START THINKING MORE,
THEY HAVE TO HAVE A GREATER
VISION FOR OUR COUNTRY
THAN THEY PRESENTLY HAVE,
I THINK.
AND TIMMINS IS ONE OF THOSE
COMMUNITIES SUFFERING.
BUT, I MEAN, THERE ARE A LOT OF
THEM IN NORTHERN ONTARIO.

David says I'VE ASKED MYSELF
A LOT OF TIMES,
WHERE COULD ANY SORT OF
IMPROVEMENT START.
AND THE ONLY ONE
I KNOW ABOUT, REALLY,
IS HAND THE FORESTS
OVER TO THE PEOPLE
WHO LIVE IN NORTHERN ONTARIO
AND LET THEM
FIGURE OUT WHAT TO DO.
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT'S
HAPPENING THAT'S ACTUALLY
REALLY DRAMATIC,
IS THE RISE IN
THE ABORIGINAL COMMUNITY'S
SET OF DEMANDS.
WHAT YOU'RE SEEING IS, AT LEAST
THE BEGINNING OF, MORE OR LESS,
SENSIBLE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT
BASED ON VERY LOCAL AUTONOMY.
THEY HAVE TERRITORIES,
AND UNDER THE TREATIES,
THEY CAN DO WHAT THEY WANT
ON THOSE TERRITORIES.
YOU HAVE A COMMUNITY
WHICH IS SELF-AWARE,
WHICH IS ASKING FOR AUTONOMY,
WHICH IS LOOKING AT
THE RESOURCES IT HAS,
AND FIGURING OUT
HOW TO USE THEM...
AND CAN MAKE CLAIMS
ON MINING COMPANIES
AND LOGGING COMPANIES
AROUND THEM.

Chad says IN THE EARLY DAYS,
THERE WASN'T MUCH PARTICIPATION
OR FIRST NATION INVOLVEMENT
IN... WITHIN THE INDUSTRY.
WHETHER IT WAS MINING
OR FORESTRY...
IN THE LAST
10-12 YEARS,
WE'VE HAD MORE SAY IN THE
DEVELOPMENT OF OUR TERRITORY.
WE'RE AT THE TABLE
WITH MINING COMPANIES NOW.
SO ALL THE FIRST NATIONS
THAT ARE AFFECTED
WITHIN THEIR
TRADITIONAL TERRITORY,
THEY STARTED DEVELOPING IBA'S,
AHICH IS AN
IMPACT BENEFIT AGREEMENT.
ALL IBA'S ARE DEVELOPED
SO FIRST NATION PEOPLE
CAN BENEFIT FROM
THE WORK BEING DONE
ON OUR TRADITIONAL TERRITORY.
THE IMPACT ON OUR TRADITIONAL
LANDS, OUR CULTURE,
THE TRAPPING, THE FISHING,
ALL THOSE AREAS ARE
AFFECTED BY THESE MINES
AND IF WE CAN'T
CONTINUE USING THAT LAND
FOR OUR TRADITION
AND FOR OUR CULTURE
AND TO PRACTICE
OUR WAY OF LIFE,
WELL THEN THERE'S GOTTA BE
SOMETHING IN RETURN
THAT WE CAN HELP
SUSTAIN OUR LIFE.
WHETHER IT BE EDUCATION,
SUPPORTING THE EDUCATION SYSTEM
OR OUR HEALTH SYSTEM.
UNFORTUNATELY, WE SEEM
TO NOT HAVE ENOUGH FUNDING
TO SUPPORT EVERYBODY'S NEEDS,
BUT YOU KNOW, WE TRY
TO DO THE BEST WE CAN
WITH WHAT WE'VE GOT.
WE ARE TAKING ADVANTAGE
OF THE OPPORTUNITY,
HOPEFULLY,
BY HAVING GOOD,
OPEN, HONEST,
NEGOTIATIONS WITH THE INDUSTRY.
IT'S A LEARNING PROCESS.

Newspaper articles appear with headlines that read "PM collides with native resource claims," "Resources are key to success for First Nations," and "First Nations delighted to have former premier negotiating for them on mining development."

Chad says WE ALL HAVE ONE
COMMON GOAL, AND THAT'S TO
MAKE SURE OUR CHILDREN
ARE GONNA HAVE
A VIABLE FUTURE
WHEN THEY GROW UP
AND THEY BECOME THE LEADERS
AND WE BECOME THE ELDERS.

David says AS THE FIRST NATIONS
PEOPLES FROM THE NORTH
START MOVING SOUTH
INTO THE CITIES,
TIMMINS IS THE FIRST
PLACE FOR THEM TO GO.
THAT OFFERS A POSSIBILITY
OF A KIND OF CULTURAL
AND MAYBE EVEN
ECONOMIC RENAISSANCE THERE
BASED ON IMMIGRATION FROM
THE NORTH, ODDLY ENOUGH.

Charlie says IN THE EARLY 70'S,
YOU BEGAN TO START TO SEE
A MOVEMENT OF PEOPLE
INTO TIMMINS,
AND STARTING TO BE
A FACE IN TIMMINS
THAT WAS NOT REALLY
SEEN THAT MUCH BEFORE.
YOU'RE GOING TO START TO SEE
MORE AND MORE OF A GROWING
INDIGENOUS EXPERTISE IN MINING,
AND START TO TAKE SOME
OF THE COMMUNITIES THAT,
FURTHER NORTH, ARE IN REALLY
DIRE ECONOMIC SITUATION,
INTO A MUCH BETTER
STANDARD OF LIVING.

Chad says THE LOCAL MINE
DOWN THE ROAD
WITH THEIR LAKE PROJECT,
THAT'S A PROJECT THAT
WE ARE AT THE TABLE WITH,
NEGOTIATING IBA.
OUR AGENDA FOR THAT MINE
IS TO ENSURE
THERE IS ADEQUATE
CAPACITY BUILDING
FOR OUR COMMUNITY MEMBERS.
WE WANT TO GET
OUR PEOPLE TRAINED,
IF THEY WANT TO STAY
IN THE TERRITORY,
WELL, THEN ALL KINDS OF JOBS
RELATED TO THE MINING,
AND BE ABLE TO LIVE HERE.
BECAUSE THE LIFESPAN OF
THAT MINE IS 17 YEARS PLUS,
SO FOR THEM TO STAY HERE,
THAT'S THE OPPORTUNITY,
THAT'S GOING TO BE
AVAILABLE FOR THEM.
WE GET A LOT OF GUIDANCE
FROM OUR ELDERS, EH, SO...
YOU KNOW, 20 YEARS AGO, WE MIGHT
NOT HAVE HAD THE SUPPORT,
BUT NOW THE ELDERS,
THEY UNDERSTAND THAT
THE NEED OF TODAY'S SOCIETY
IS A LOT DIFFERENT
THAN IT WAS FOR THEM.

(music plays)

Shane and Tyler trains at a gym.

The caption changes to "Tyler Mateev. Miner."

Tyler is in his thirties, with short wavy blond hair and a beard. He wears a mottled black hoodie.

Tyler says TIMMINS HAS
MINING EVERYWHERE,
SO YOU'RE DRIVING AROUND AND
IF YOU THINK OUTSIDE THE BOX
YOU COULD BE LIKE,
"HEY, THERE'S ACTUALLY PEOPLE
DOWN THERE WORKING RIGHT NOW."

Shane says YOU'RE DRIVIN' OVER US!

Tyler says YEAH.

Shane laughs.

Tyler says YEAH.

Tyler says I KNEW SHANE
FROM OUTSIDE,
AND WE WERE PRETTY GOOD FRIENDS,
AND HE KNEW
THAT I WAS A GOOD WORKER
AND HE PUT A GOOD...
A REALLY GOOD WORD IN FOR ME,
AND THEN I GOT ON THE DECK
WITH HIM AND THEN EVERYTHING
JUST SLOWLY
PROGRESSED FROM THERE.
THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE,
LIKE I SAID, WHO WERE...

Shane says PRETTY ANGRY.

Tyler says PRETTY MAD
AT ME BECAUSE...
WELL, BECAUSE NORMALLY
IT TAKES LIKE A LONG TIME.
Shane says IT TAKES A LITTLE
BIT OF TIME, RIGHT?
YOU NEED EXPERIENCE
TO GET ONTO THAT JOB,
BECAUSE IT'S NOT
THE EASIEST JOB, RIGHT?
IT'S A DANGEROUS JOB, SO...
YEAH, THERE WAS
A LOT OF ANGRY PEOPLE.
BUT WHEN YOU WORK HARD,
YOU MOVE UP PRETTY
QUICK, I GUESS.

Tyler says IT'S A PHYSICALLY
DEMANDING JOB.

Shane says YEAH.

Tyler says A LOT OF PEOPLE SAY
THEY WANT IT, BUT WHEN IT'S
ACTUALLY THERE, NOBODY WANTS IT.

Shane says IT'D BE NICE IF WE WORKED
TOGETHER AGAIN ON THE SAME...
SAME MACHINE AGAIN.
THAT'D BE GREAT.

Tyler says YEAH.
I WOULDN'T BE
WHERE I WAS, THOUGH,
IF YOU DIDN'T SAY
WHAT YOU SAID, SO...

Shane says YEAH, THAT'S TRUE.

Tyler says IF THEY ASKED ME
IF I WANTED TO GO BACK WITH YOU,
I'D HAVE TO SAY, "OH, MAN,"
AND BE LIKE,
"YEAH, OKAY.
I GUESS I WILL." [LAUGHS]

Shane laughs and says "I'LL TRY IT OUT ONE MORE TIME."

Tyler says YEAH.
[LAUGHS]

Shane says DIDN'T WORK OUT
THE FIRST TIME,
BUT WE'LL TRY IT OUT AGAIN.

Tyler says YOU'VE GOTTA RELY MORE
ON YOUR PARTNERS, I WOULD SAY.
THERE'S A LOT OF CAMARADERIE.
YOU HAVE TO DEPEND
ON YOUR PARTNER.
LIKE, SAY WHEN WE'RE
WORKING ON THE DECK,
I HAVE TO RELY ON HIM 100 percent.
I HAVE TO BE ABLE
TO TURN MY BACK,
AND KNOW THAT HE'S LOOKING
FOR ME AS VICE VERSA
WITH EVERYBODY THERE.
WE'RE ALL GOING
DOWN THERE TOGETHER,
WE ALL SHOULD BE
COMING UP TOGETHER.
WHAT'D THEY SAY
IN THAT ONE MEETING?
WE'RE THE SOFTEST
THING UNDERGROUND.

Shane says YEAH, IT IS.
IT'S TRUE.

Tyler says YOU'RE DOWN THERE
WITH LIKE 50-TONNE TRUCKS,
10-YARD SCOOPS...
LIKE, JUST TO SAY
YOU'RE THIS BIG,
AND THEN EVERYTHING AROUND
YOU IS THIS BIG, RIGHT?
AT THE END OF THE DAY, YEAH,
IT'S JUST GOOD TO BE AT HOME
AND MAKE THE TYPE OF
MONEY WE MAKE.

Shane says DEFINITELY.
TWO MORE RUNS
AND I'M ON HOLIDAY, SO...

Tyler says I KNOW, YOU'LL BE ABLE
TO ESCAPE THE WINTER WEATHER.

Shane says YEAH.

Tyler says I HOPE IT'S STILL HERE
FOR YOU WHEN YOU COME BACK.
Shane says PROBABLY, IT'S TIMMINS.

In his car, Shane says THE ROADS ARE
SO BAD IN TIMMINS.
THEY'RE BRUTAL.
IF MY MINE WOULD CLOSE,
I THINK...
IT WOULD DEFINITELY TAKE
A HIT FOR A LOT OF PEOPLE.
BUT TIMMINS IS A BIG
MINING CITY, RIGHT?
THERE'S JOBS EVERYWHERE,
I FIND.
THERE'S CAMP JOBS
ALL OVER THE PLACE ALSO,
IF YOU CAN'T GET
A JOB IN TIMMINS.
YOU LEAVE FOR 28 DAYS
AT A MINE, YOU STAY THERE,
AND THEN YOU FLY BACK HOME
FOR, SAY, 14 DAYS.
I GOT CONTRACTORS, LIKE
GUYS THAT I KNOW THAT WORK,
I DON'T KNOW WHERE THEY ARE,
BUT THEY'RE MINING SOMEPLACE.
I'D LIKE TO EVENTUALLY, YEAH.
I'VE MENTIONED IT
TO MY DAD A FEW TIMES,
BUT HE TOLD ME
THAT FAMILY AND MY HOUSE
AND EVERYTHING'S HERE,
RIGHT, SO...
IF ANYTHING EVER HAPPENED,
IF MY MINE CLOSED,
AND I WOULD HAVE NO CHOICE,
I WOULD DO IT FOR SURE.

Shane pulls over and says SO, WE'RE HERE.

Shane walks in the house and says HEY!
HOW'S YOUR DAY?
WANT PAPA
TO SIT WITH YOU?
THE KIDS ARE SET
AND READY, SO...

The family sits at the table for dinner.

Shawn says THERE'S MINES
WORLDWIDE, SO,
THE ONLY THING IS,
IT WOULD SORT OF CRUSH
THE FAMILY, SORT OF IN A WAY,
LIKE MY SON WOULD HAVE TO MOVE
AWAY TO WORK SOMEWHERE ELSE.
BECAUSE THAT'S ALL
HE KNOWS, IS MINING.
BUT IT'D BE A SHAME,
YOU KNOW,
TO SEE HIM LEAVE.
BECAUSE EVERY CHRISTMAS,
YOU KNOW, HOLIDAYS AND THAT,
WE ALWAYS SPEND IT TOGETHER,
CLOSE FAMILY, SO...
THAT'S WHY WE WANT TO GET
A PLACE AT THE LAKE, YOU KNOW,
SO THAT WE WOULD SPEND
QUALITY TIME WITH THEM.

Shawn says ARE YOU WORKING TOMORROW?

Shane says TONIGHT.

Shawn says JUST TONIGHT?

Shane says YEAH.

Shawn says THEN YOU'RE GONNA
TAKE THE REST OFF?

(music plays)

Charlie says CANADA HASN'T REALLY
COME TO TERMS WITH ITS HISTORY.
IT HAS A SERIES OF TABLEAU
IMAGES THAT TELLS ITS STORY.
THERE'S THE HAPPY LUMBERJACK,
THERE'S THE MARITIMES FISHERMAN,
AND NORTHERN ONTARIO
DOESN'T FIT CANADA'S STORY
BECAUSE IT WAS
MULTICULTURAL BEFORE
THEY WERE SUPPOSED
TO BE MULTICULTURAL.
IT WAS INDUSTRIAL NORTH.
AND CANADA HAS
A DISCONNECT FROM THE FACT
THAT IT IS A HEAVILY
RESOURCE-BASED ECONOMY,
AND IT SEEMS TO HAVE
THIS WEIRD DUALITY,
WHERE WE EITHER SEE
WILDERNESS AS SOMETHING
TO BE WORSHIPPED
AND PROTECTED,
OR SOMETHING TO BE
RAPED AND PILLAGED.

Bobby says I SEEN A POST ON FACEBOOK
THE OTHER DAY, AND IT SAID,
"MY BOSS SHOWED UP TO WORK
WITH A LAMBORGHINI."
I SAID, "WOW, THAT'S
A REALLY NICE CAR."
AND HIS REPLY WAS,
"OH, IF YOU WORK REALLY HARD
"FOR THE NEXT
ONE OR TWO YEARS,
"I'LL BE ABLE TO
GET ANOTHER ONE."

Chad says WE ASK THE ELDERS, LISTEN
TO THEM AND HEAR THEIR CONCERNS.
THEY SUPPORT CERTAIN
ELEMENTS OF THE IBAS,
AS LONG AS THERE IS
A POSITIVE BENEFIT
FOR THEIR YOUNGER GENERATION.
THEIR CHILDREN,
THEIR GRANDCHILDREN,
AND THE FUTURE GRANDCHILDREN
OR CHILDREN OF THE COMMUNITY.

Orval says I KNOW PLACES LIKE
COBALT, AS AN EXAMPLE.
I DON'T KNOW OF ANY NEW MINES
THAT OPENED UP IN COBALT
IN THE LAST 50 YEARS.
BUT YET, THEY'RE SURVIVING,
ONE WAY OR THE OTHER.
AND I'M HOPING THAT WE'RE
GONNA FIND SOMETHING,
IF NOT A MINE,
BUT A SUBSTITUTE OF SOME KIND.
I LEAVE THAT
TO THE POLITICIANS.
[LAUGHS]

Music plays as the end credits roll.

Executive producers, James Hyslop and Nick Crowe.

Series producer, Catie Lamer.

Writer and director, Catie Lamer.

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