Transcript: Ep. 6 - Japan | Sep 25, 2017

An ant colony appears.

A caption reads "Roberto Flore. Head Chef."

Roberto is in his late twenties, with a black beard and short black hair. He wears a blue shirt.

Roberto cooks outdoors and tastes some green ingredient.

The caption changes to "Josh Evans. Lead Researcher."

Josh is in his late twenties, clean-shaven and with short wavy brown hair. He wears a blue and white checked shirt.

Josh says OUR GOAL IS TRYING
TO MAKE MORE TASTY FOOD
AVAILABLE TO MORE PEOPLE.

The caption changes to "Josh Evans. Lead Researcher."

Josh is in his late twenties, clean-shaven and with short wavy brown hair. He wears a blue and white plaid shirt.

Clips show Ben and Josh looking for bugs around the world.

Josh says TO TRY AND LEARN
FROM THESE CULTURES.
THERE ARE MANY CULTURES
AROUND THE WORLD
WHERE INSECTS
ARE NOT JUST EATEN,
BUT WHERE
THEY ARE A DELICACY.

Ben is in his early thirties, clean-shaven and with short wavy red hair. He wears a dark T-shirt.

Ben tastes a dish made of bugs and says I MEAN, AS A FOOD
IT KICKS ASS, BASICALLY.

A local person opens up a piece of fruit that is full of tiny insects on the inside.

A man says OH, IT'S ALIVE.

The caption changes to "Andreas Johnsen. Filmaker."

Andreas is in his early forties, with slightly wavy light brown hair. He wears a white sweatshirt and a brown fishing hat.

He eats a bug and says WOW.

Josh says WHAT WE REALIZED IS
THAT THE TECHNIQUES
ARE WAY MORE DIVERSE THAN
WE'D POSSIBLY EVER IMAGINED.
HOW TO COOK INSECTS?
IT WOULD BE LIKE SAYING
HOW TO COOK MAMMALS,
HOW TO COOK BIRDS?
SO WE TREAT THEM
DIFFERENTLY.

Wearing aprons, Ben and Josh speak to a crowd.

Ben says WE'RE FROM
NORDIC FOOD LAB.
NORDIC FOOD LAB IS
A NOT-FOR-PROFIT,
OPEN-SOURCE FOUNDATION,
AND WE AIM TO EXPLORE
DELICIOUSNESS.

A picture shows the façade of the building with the caption "Copenhagen. Nordic Food Lab."

Ben says AND IT'S FROM THIS ANGLE
WE CAME TO THE INSECTS THING.

Ben tastes an insect and says OKAY.

A male’s voice says EVERYONE WILL BE BETTER OFF
IF WE EAT A FAIR AMOUNT
OF INSECTS IN OUR LIVES.

A black slate appears with the title "Bugs. Japan."

[BUZZING]

(music plays)

A wooden desk reads "Nordic Food Lab."

Roberto and Josh type in laptops.

Josh says ROBBE, DO YOU HAVE
ANY QUESTIONS?

Roberto says ABOUT...?

Josh says ABOUT THE ITINERARY
THAT I HAVE GIVEN YOU.

Roberto says WE CAN'T DISCOVER,
THREE DAYS BEFORE LEAVING,
THESE WASPS ARE, LIKE,
SO POISONOUS,
AND AT LEAST,
IF YOU ARE LUCKY,
YOU CAN JUST HAVE
DISEASE,
OR IF YOU ARE NOT,
THEY CAN KILL YOU.

Josh says WE ARE GOING WITH PEOPLE WHO
KNOWS MORE THAN ANYBODY
HOW TO DO THIS
PROPERLY.

Roberto says OKAY.

They hug.

An animated map of Japan shows the location of Kushishara with a red dot flashing.

Captions read "Giant hornets, cherry caterpillars, wasps."

The team travels in a van. A man guides them into a warehouse near a forest.

Josh says ISN'T IT BEAUTIFUL HERE?
I LOVE IT
WITH THE RAIN.
YOU ARE TOTALLY GOING TO BE
SUPER PROTECTED IN THIS.

Roberto holds a white beekeeper suit and says LOOK AT THIS!
I FEEL... HAHA.
I FEEL SAFE.
YOU KNOW?
IT IS IMPOSSIBLE
THEY CAN
BITE SOMETHING LIKE THIS,
YOU KNOW...

Charlotte is in her early thirties, with long curly brown hair. She wears a pale blue pullover and a scarf.

Charlotte says YEAH, NO, THERE COULD BE,
LIKE, A MUTANT HORNET.

Roberto says IS THERE?!

Charlotte says YOU NEVER KNOW.

Charlotte chuckles.

Roberto says CHARLOTTE!

Josh says YEAH, MAN, CHARLOTTE!
YOU ARE NOT HELPING,
CHARLOTTE.
YOU ARE TOTALLY MEAN.

Chuckling, Charlotte says YES, IT IS ABSOLUTELY FINE.

Roberto says YEAH, IT IS SO...
YEAH. WOW.

Charlotte says IT IS PRETTY THICK.

Josh looks at his dark blue beekeeper suit and says THE BLACK STALLION!
IT'S BEAUTIFUL.
IT REMINDS ME OF,
LIKE, DIVER SUITS
FROM THE BEGINNING OF
THE 20TH CENTURY.
OVER? UNDER? OVER?

Charlotte says IT'S OKAY, BECAUSE EITHER WAY,
IT IS GOING
TO BE TAPED.
BEES, IT'S LIKE
A MULTIPLE STING
POSSIBLE, RIGHT?

Charlotte helps Josh put on the equipment.

A woman says YEAH...

Charlotte says LIKE WASPS?

The woman says YEAH.

Josh says I FEEL SO INCAPACITATED.
LIKE, I CAN'T DO ANYTHING
WITH THESE THINGS ON.
I'M INTO THIS
WHISKEY IDEA, CHARLOTTE.
I THINK IT IS
GONNA BE TASTY.

Charlotte and Josh pour juice and whisky in two different plastic bottles.

Charlotte says OH, YEAH, I THINK IT IS
GONNA BE GOOD.
WILL IT BE POSSIBLE
TO TAKE SOME,
LIKE, IF WE GET
A LOT IN HERE,
PUT SOME INTO
HONEY LATER?
OR DO THEY RUIN IT?

Charlotte says YOU DON'T WANT TO PUT
ALCOHOL IN THE HONEY.

Josh says IS THAT BAD?

Charlotte says BASICALLY, WHAT YOU WANT
IS PURE HONEY PLUS VENOM.

Josh says OKAY, SO "NO" IS YOUR
ANSWER TO THE QUESTION.

Charlotte says IDEALLY.

Josh says THAT'S A BAD QUESTION.

Charlotte says AND THIS ONE, YOU WANT
PURE WHITE LIQUEUR,
AND THIS ONE,
PURE WHISKEY AND VENOM.

Josh says SO NO MIXING?

Charlotte says NO MIXING.

Roberto says HOW DO YOU FEEL, GUYS?

Andreas says I FEEL GOOD.

Josh says TO BE PERFECTLY HONEST,
ROBBE,
I'M TOTALLY NOT
CONCERNED AT ALL.
I THINK WE WILL BE
COMPLETELY FINE.

Roberto says YEAH, YEAH. IT'S FINE.

Josh says I HAVE NO MORE ANXIETY
THAN I'VE HAD FOR
ANY OTHER THING
WE'VE DONE.

Roberto whispers to Andreas ONLY BECAUSE IT IS
FILMING, YOU KNOW?
WHEN YOU STOP
THE CAMERA, HE GOES,
"OH MY GOD, THERE IS
A LOT OF PEOPLE!
OH, THERE'S REALLY
DANGER FOR THIS!"
AND THEN WHEN YOU FILM,
HE IS LIKE
A SUPER MACHO-MAN
CANADIAN.

They team walks in a forest.

Josh says OKAY, SO WE ARE GOING TO BE
KNEELING DOWN,
SWATTING THEM IN.

Charlotte says AND SO ALL THE ADULTS ARE
GOING TO COME OUT
REALLY FAST,
TRYING TO STING YOU.
AND WHEN THEY DO THAT,
THAT'S WHEN YOU
PUT THEM
IN THE ALCOHOL.
YES, ON THAT LEDGE JUST ABOVE
THE NEST, JUST THERE.

Roberto says ON THE TOP?

Charlotte says YES.

Josh says AND WE ARE GOING TO BE THERE
BEFORE HE STARTS DIGGING.
AND WE ARE GOING TO BE READY
TO START HITTING THEM
INTO THE ALCOHOL
WHEN THEY START
COMING OUT.

Roberto says OKAY.

Andreas says JOSH?

Josh says YEAH?

Andreas says SEE YOU ON THE OTHER SIDE.
Josh says YES.
UP HERE, RIGHT?

Andreas says ROBBE...
CIAO!

Roberto says HEY, CHARLOTTE.

Charlotte says YES?

Roberto says IS THERE ANOTHER PLACE
WHERE I CAN STAY,
ONLY FOR DON'T STAY
TOO MUCH CLOSE TO HERE
IF I WANNA MOVE?

Charlotte says DO YOU WANNA MOVE?

Charlotte says IF YOU WANNA MOVE,
COME WITH ME.

Roberto says YEAH, BUT CAN I STAY,
LIKE, HERE?

Charlotte says YEAH, SURE.

Josh says WHOA! CRAZY.
OH, MY GOODNESS,
THEY ARE HUMUNGOUS.
THEY ARE LIKE
AN ALIEN SPECIES.

Josh kneels by a wasp nest in the ground and repeatedly hits his bottle.

Josh says I GOT SOME.
I GOT FOUR.
AHHH!
WOW, THERE IS A LOT.

Andreas says THEY ARE JUMPING TO
THE CAMERA, ALSO.

Josh says OH, WHOA!
LUCKILY, THAT DIDN'T GO
INTO MY BODY.
ROBBE, HOW ARE YOU DOING?

Roberto says TWO.
COME ON.

Josh says I'LL ATTRACT THEM, AND THEN
YOU PICK OFF
THE ONES THAT ARE...

Roberto says COME ON. COME ON!

Josh says THERE'S A BUNCH OF THEM
STUCK HERE IN THE GRASS.

Roberto scrapes the nest.

Josh says WOW.
THIS IS PROBABLY
THE MOST INTENSE INSECT
THAT WE'VE WORKED WITH.

Roberto says HOW MANY DO YOU THINK
YOU HAVE, JOSH?

Josh shows the bottle and says THAT MANY.

Roberto says THAT'S A LOT.
I HAVE ALSO SOME GRASS.

Josh says OH, OKAY.

Roberto says BUT THAT'S FINE.
WE CAN MAKE A NEW RECIPE.

Josh says YEAH.

Roberto says THAT'S OKAY.
IT'S FINE IF I MAKE A NEW
RECIPE WITH GRASS AND WASPS.
[laughing]

Josh says IT'LL BE WHISKEY -
YOU KNOW, LIKE
"TERROIR" AND SHIT.

Roberto says WOOHOO! YALLA!

Josh says AS SOON AS YOU MOVE YOUR HANDS,
THEY ALL COME.
UGH!

Andreas says YOU COUNTED NINE?

Josh says YEAH.
I THINK I HAVE
TEN, ACTUALLY.

Andreas says OH, THAT'S NOT GOOD.

Josh says NO, I KNOW.
I HAVE TO GET 15.

Andreas says FIFTEEN?

[man speaking Japanese]

A member of the team places a wasp nest into a blue plastic box.

In a house, Josh and Robert listen to the sound white thick worms with a yellow tip make inside their nests.

Josh says I LOVE HOW THEY HAVE THIS,
LIKE, THIS RHYTHM -
THIS, LIKE, SAME RHYTHM
THAT THEY HAVE,
WHERE THEY'RE ALL, LIKE,
MOVING THEIR HEADS
BACK AND FORTH LIKE THIS.

Roberto says YES, AND THEN OPEN.
YOU SEE? LIKE...
BUT THEY ALL HAVE
THEIR OWN RHYTHM.

Charlotte says OKAY, SO WHEN THE LIVING ONES
[INDISCERNIBLE], YOU CAN
PUT THEM INTO HERE,
INTO THE HONEY.

Roberto says WHOA!

Charlotte says WHOA!

Charlotte weights the nests.

Charlotte speaks Japanese.

Subtitles read "3.5 KG."

The woman says NO, 3.4 KG.

Charlotte says THREE POINT FOUR KILOS.

Josh says IS IT INTACT?

Roberto says YEAH.
COOL.
[INDISCERNIBLE]

Roberto hands Josh an insect.

Josh says THAT WON'T
STING ME, RIGHT?

Charlotte says LET ME JUST TELL YOU THE
DIFFERENT STAGES, RIGHT?
SO YOU'VE GOT-
WAIT, WAIT, WAIT, BEFORE YOU-
OKAY, SO THAT'S ONE OF
THESE LARVAE-

Josh says NOW, THIS IS
A STUPID QUESTION,
BUT NONE OF
THE LARVAE STING?

Charlotte says NO, THEY DON'T.

Smiling, Josh says I DIDN'T THINK SO, BUT I'M
JUST MAKING SURE, YOU KNOW?

Charlotte says NO, IT'S A VERY
INTELLIGENT QUESTION.
SO THESE LARVAE, RIGHT?
THESE ARE THE ONES
THAT THE WORKER WASPS
WILL COME AND FEED.
AND SO THEY FEED
THE MEAT TO THESE LARVAE.
SO THIS BLACK VEIN
IS THEIR-

Josh says DIGESTIVE TRACT?

Charlotte says RIGHT.
AND SO WE ACTUALLY TAKE THAT
OUT WHEN WE PROCESS IT.
I'LL SHOW YOU HOW
TO DO IT AFTERWARDS.
WE'LL PUT THEM IN
DIFFERENT BOWLS,
AND SO THESE LARVAE
WITH THE DIGESTIVE TRACT,
YOU PUT THEM ALL
IN THE SAME BOWL.
UNDERNEATH SOME OF THESE,
THERE WILL BE LARVAE
THAT LOOK LIKE THIS,
BUT BECAUSE THEY ARE
UNDERNEATH HERE,
IT MEANS THAT THEY
DON'T HAVE ANY FOOD
IN THEIR DIGESTIVE
TRACT.
SO THEY ARE
COMPLETELY CLEAN.
SO YOU DON'T NEED TO CLEAN OUT
THE INSIDES FOR THOSE.
SO THOSE ONES YOU PUT
INTO A SEPARATE BOWL.
AND AS YOU'VE
JUST SEEN, LIKE,
SOME OF THEM ARE BASICALLY
READY TO COME OUT.
SO THEN THEY
EAT THEIR WAY OUT.
AND THE LIQUID THAT SITS JUST,
LIKE, EMITTED ONTO MY HAND,
THAT'S THE SALIVA, WHICH IT
FEEDS TO THE ADULT HORNETS.

Josh says SO THEY FEED A
LIQUID TO THE ADULTS?

Charlotte says THEY FEED
THE ADULTS, YEAH.
SO THE ADULTS
COME BACK TO THE NEST,
AND THEY GIVE THE MEAT
TO THE LARVAE,
AND THEN THE LARVAE,
IN RETURN,
THEY GIVE, LIKE,
A SALIVA TO THE ADULTS.
AND THAT'S BASICALLY-
I MEAN, IT'S-
OKAY, SO THIS ONE,
IF YOU CAN SEE HERE-

Josh says SO CAN WE TASTE THAT?

Charlotte says YES, PLEASE DO.

Josh tastes the insect’s saliva.

Josh says BUT IT IS SORT OF JUST, LIKE,
MILDLY SWEET, REALLY.
I MEAN, WHAT DO YOU
THINK IT TASTES LIKE?
DOES IT HAVE A
PARTICULAR TASTE?

Charlotte says YEAH, I THINK IT HAS
KIND OF AN INTERESTING TASTE.

(jazz music plays)

Josh places a wasp inside a tiny transparent container with a liquid.

Josh says IT'S ALIVE.
YOU CAN SEE IT'S
MOVING SLOWLY.
SEE ITS LEGS MOVE?

Charlotte says OH, YEAH.
SO NEAT.

[camera clicking]

Close-up shots show pictures of insect dishes.

[man speaking Japanese]

Charlotte says IT'S OFTEN SAID THAT
A HEALTHY ECOSYSTEM IS ONE WITH
LOTS AND LOTS OF INSECTS,
AND THAT ACTUALLY,
ESPECIALLY, YOU KNOW,
YOU CAN BE WORRIED ABOUT
CROP INSECTS, RIGHT,
LIKE PARTICULAR
CROP PESTS,
BUT IF THEY HAVE
NATURAL PREDATORS,
YOU DON'T HAVE TO WORRY
ABOUT THEM THAT MUCH.
YOUR YIELDS AREN'T
GONNA DROP THAT MUCH.

Josh says AND ALSO IN
AGRICULTURE,
IF YOU HAVE REALLY, REALLY
HEALTHY SOIL
AND YOUR PLANTS
ARE REALLY ROBUST,
THEN YOUR PLANTS AREN'T
GOING TO BE
SICK WITH INSECTS,
ANYWAY.

Charlotte says IT'S JUST SO MUCH MORE
SUSTAINABLE, YEAH.

Josh continues AND, LIKE, THAT IS THE PRIMARY
DIFFERENCE BETWEEN
IF YOU ARE FARMING IN A WAY THAT
IS CREATING HEALTHY SOIL,
OR IF YOU ARE FARMING IN A WAY
THAT'S DEGRADING SOIL,
WHICH IS WHAT MOST OF IT
COMES BACK TO:
THE INSECTS BECOME
AN INDICATOR
OF HOW HEALTHY THE
THINGS THAT PRECEDE THAT
IN TERMS OF AN AGRICULTURAL
SYSTEM ARE OR NOT.

Charlotte says FOR CONSIDERING TO BE IMPORTANT
TO FUTURE
FOOD CONSUMPTION,
IF CERTAINLY REGIONAL
FOOD CONSUMPTION
IS GOING TO BE SUSTAINABLE,
BECAUSE ULTIMATELY,
IF, IN THAT REGION, YOU CAN
HARVEST INSECTS YEAR AFTER YEAR,
THAT MEANS YOU HAVE
A HEALTHY ECOSYSTEM.
AND THAT'S GONNA HAVE A
KNOCK-ON EFFECT FOR YOUR CROPS,
FOR YOUR WILD FOODS,
FOR ALL SORTS OF THINGS.

Josh takes down notes as Charlotte speaks.

Josh says YEAH.

Roberto takes wasps from a brochette and put them on a plate.

Roberto points to a dish and says SOME ONION, SESAME OIL,
AND THE SAUCE
MADE WITH KATSUOBUSHI,
SOY SAUCE,
AND DRONE.

The caption changes to "Daisuke Miyake. Wasp Master." Daisuke is in his mid-thirties, clean-shaven with short black hair. He wears a black woollen hat and a dark checked jacket.

Daisuke says MMM!

A man says TASTY?

Daisuke says REALLY, REALLY GOOD!

They all chuckle.

Daisuke says AMAZING!

Roberto and Daisuke high-five and hug.

Daisuke says YOU DID IT!

The man asks TASTY?

Daisuke replies GREAT!

Charlotte says TASTY?

The woman nods and says GOOD.
MMM!

A man says VERY GOOD.

Charlotte says SHE SAYS THAT IT IS
A STRONG TASTE.
THAT MEANS THAT IT DOESN'T
HAVE THE, LIKE-
SHE DOESN'T REALLY LIKE
THE SMELL OF THEM.
BUT SHE SAYS IT IS
REALLY GOOD,
THAT THE TASTE
IS REALLY STRONG.

Josh says LIKE, IT WAS SO TASTY.
LIKE, IT JUST MADE
MY BODY FEEL SO GOOD.
AND THEN, ON TOP OF
ALL OF THAT,
IN THIS, LIKE, TOTAL,
BEAUTIFUL, CONTEXTUAL MOMENT,
THIS FLAVOUR OF OAK MOSS...
JUST, LIKE, THERE WOULD BE
BURSTS OF IT, AND THEN
IT WOULD ALSO JUST SORT OF-
IT WOULD, LIKE, BURST OUT,
AND THEN RIDE TO THE TOP OF
EVERYTHING AND JUST STAY THERE
FOR LIKE 15 SECONDS,
AND THEN SWING DOWN AGAIN,
AND THEN, LIKE,
ANOTHER BURST OF IT,
AND THEN JUST
SORT OF STAY.

The caption changes to "Kushishara. Annual Wasp-Loving Festival."

The next day, local people watch men handle wasp nest inside a greenhouse.

Signs read "Danger! If you have wasp allergy do not enter this area!"

Two men play guitar and sign in Japanese while visitors take pictures and eat at the food stalls.

The caption changes to "Rice stick with wasp larvae syrup."

Josh tastes the rice stick and says THE WOOD IS MY
FAVOURITE PART -
LIKE, THE SMELL OF THE WOOD,
WHEN YOU GET TO THE CENTRE
AND YOU ARE, LIKE, BITING IT
OFF OF THE WOOD,
AND IT TASTES
LIKE CEDAR.

Roberto says WELCOME...
IN THE HOUSE
OF THE LION!

Roberto and Josh walk into the greenhouse.

Wearing a bee suit, Josh says THERE ARE SO MANY NESTS.
AND IT IS SO INTERESTING
TO SEE HOW THEY ALL
BUILD THEM DIFFERENTLY.
SOME PEOPLE WILL USE, LIKE,
LOTS OF DIFFERENT MATERIALS
TO TRY AND SIMULATE
THE SURROUNDINGS.
BECAUSE USUALLY THEY'RE IN THE
GROUND, RIGHT, IN THE SOIL,
SO THEY'LL PUT, LIKE, DIFFERENT
TYPES OF SOIL, OR MOSS,
OR RICE HUSKS, OR CLAY.
IT IS BEAUTIFUL, HUH?

Roberto places a bag onto a weigh scale.

A man says 3440 G.

Andreas says SO BEAUTIFUL.

[barking]

The caption changes to "Wasp nests. Masatoshi Yabushita. Leader Kushishara Wasp-Loving Society." He is in his late fifties, clean-shaven with white hair. He wears a black jacket over a brown and green sweater and green polo-shirt.

Charlotte says WHAT HE DOES AS THE HEAD OF
HEBO SOCIETY IS TO ENCOURAGE
PEOPLE AND APPEAL TO PEOPLE
TO KEEP WASPS,
AND TO, LIKE,
KEEP THE TRADITION GOING.

Masatoshi says THE CAMERAMAN SHOULD
TAKE CARE NOT BEING
STUNG BY WASPS.

Next to Masatoshi, a young man says EVERYBODY
IS GETTING STUNG ONCE.

Masatoshi says TRUE.

Charlotte says I HAVEN’T
BEEN STUNG YET.

Masatoshi says THIS TIME?

Charlotte says NEVER.

Masatoshi says YOU’RE LUCKY.

Charlotte says SO HE ALWAYS
LEAVES A NEST,
AND HE IS GOING TO
LEAVE THIS ONE
SO THAT THE NEW QUEENS
GET BORN,
AND THEN THEY GO
AND, LIKE,
HIBERNATE OVER THE WINTER, AND
THEN MAKE NEW NESTS NEXT YEAR.
BUT IN ORDER
FOR THAT TO HAPPEN,
HE STOPS GIVING THEM
ANY FOOD.
THAT MEANS THAT THEY START
EATING THINGS FROM NATURE,
AND THAT MEANS THEY ARE
GOING TO BECOME, LIKE, STRONGER
AND GIVE BIRTH
TO GOOD QUEENS,
WHICH ARE GONNA MAKE
GOOD NESTS THE NEXT YEAR.

Roberto says WHY DOES HE KEEP WASPS?

Charlotte translates and says WHAT’S THE
PURPOSE OF KEEPING
WASPS?

Masatoshi says IT’S MY HOBBY, RIGHT!
EVERONE GOES FISHING,
GOES SKIING, DOING ALL
SORTS OF THINGS, IT’S LIKE THAT

Charlotte says JUST LIKE HOW SOME PEOPLE GO
FISHING, HE LIKES KEEPING WASPS.

The caption changes to "Wasp feed. Chicken hearts and livers. Sugar."

Pictures show the wasp feed.

Next, Masatoshi, Charlotte and Josh stand by wooden boxes.

Josh says FIRST, HE TAKES ONE
FROM THE MOUNTAINS
AND PUTS IT INTO HERE.
AND HOW LONG DOES IT
STAY IN HERE FOR?

Charlotte says FROM WHEN HE COMES BACK.

Josh says AH, THIS IS JUST TO
TAKE IT FROM THE MOUNTAINS.

Masatoshi says WE CLOSE IT HERE
UNTIL IT’S FULL.
AND THEN FROM HERE DOWNWARDS,
THE NEST GROWS.
THE WASPS INSIDE HERE, THEY WORK,
AND THE NEST WILL GET BIGGER.

Charlotte says HOW MANY KILOS
WAS THIS ONE?

Masatoshi says THIS WAS 2180,
THIS WAS 2240, RIGHT?
THIS ONE WAS BIGGER.

Charlotte says OH, EVEN THOUGH
IT STARTED OUT SMALLER?
THIS ONE BECAME THE BIGGEST,
EVEN THOUGH THIS IS SMALLER.

Josh says OH, REALLY?
EXCUSE ME.

They take pictures of Masatoshi’s nests.

In a van, Josh says WE ARE GOING TO
COOK SOME VEGETABLES,
AND WE'LL HAVE SOME
LUNCH AND SOME BEER,
AND THEN WE WILL PROCESS
ALL THE WASPS TOGETHER.

Next, the team sits at a table extracting larvae out of nests.

Josh says I THINK MOST OF
THE EMERGING INDUSTRY
AND MOST OF WHERE THE MONEY
IS GOING TO BE IS
IN FEED FOR
LIVESTOCK, FOR SURE.

Charlotte says AND THAT'S WHY IT'S REALLY
IMPORTANT TO SAY THAT INSECTS
WILL SAVE THE WORLD.
IT JUST DEPENDS ON
WHERE THE MONEY GOES.

Josh says THAT'S WHY, LIKE,
FOCUSING ON FLAVOUR
AND FOCUSING ON THE
GASTRONOMY OF IT
ACTUALLY CAN BE A WAY OF
TRYING TO PRESERVE
THIS DIVERSITY IN CUISINES
WHERE THEY ARE EATEN,
BECAUSE THE VALUE
BECOMES ABOUT
"WHAT IS THE FUNCTION IN
OUR CUISINE?
WHAT IS THE FUNCTION
IN OUR CULTURE?"
RATHER THAN SORT OF
"WHAT PRIMARY ECONOMIC GAIN
CAN IT BRING TO ME
AS, LIKE,
ANOTHER PROTEIN?"
IT IS, LIKE, THE SAME
MENTALITY THAT GIVES RISE TO,
LIKE, PEOPLE EATING
HYDROLYZED SOY PROTEIN
AND THINKING THEY ARE
SAVING THE WORLD,
WHEN ACTUALLY WHAT THEY ARE
DOING IS THEY ARE DEVASTATING
THOUSANDS OF ACRES OF THE
AMAZON RAINFOREST EVERY DAY,
BUT THINKING THEY ARE DOING
SOMETHING REALLY SUSTAINABLE.
CAN I HAVE
SOME OF YOURS?
OR SOME OF YOURS, MAYBE?

Roberto says YEAH, YOU CAN HAVE
[INDISCERNIBLE].
TRY THESE.

Josh says IT TASTES
LIKE MELON TO ME.

Roberto says BUT NO, IT TASTES
LIKE WASP!

Roberto chuckles.

Josh says "BUT NO!"
THAT'S THE GOAL,
THAT'S THE VISION.

Roberto says YES, THIS IS THE VISION.

Josh says TO BE ABLE TO TASTE WATERMELON,
THE WHITE PART OF WATERMELON,
AND SAY IT
TASTES LIKE WASP!

Roberto says YEAH.

[all chatting in Japanese]

The animated map of Japan shows the location of Tokyo.

The team takes the metro.

The caption changes to "Insect Cuisine Research Association. Tokyo."

Josh says IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S BEEN
TAMPED DOWN FROM
BEING FROZEN.
LIKE, THE ONES
IN THE NETHERLANDS
WEREN'T QUITE THIS VIGOROUS,
WERE THEY?
THAT'S THE SILK.
IS THIS THE SILK WORM?
THESE ARE THE NICE,
WHITE ONES, RIGHT?
YES!

The caption changes to "Shoichi Uchiyama. Chef and Author." He is in his mid-thirties, clean-shaven with short black hair. He wears glasses and a checked shirt.

Roberto says A LOT OF INSECTS
TONIGHT.

The team and a group of diners gather around a table.

Shoichi says ABOUT 16 YEARS AGO,
WE STARTED THIS CLUB.
AT THAT TIME, THERE WAS AN EXHIBITION
HERE IN TOKYO
ON THE INSECTS EATEN AROUND
THE WORLD
AND I SAW THAT IN AFRICA, ASIA
A LOT OF INSECTS ARE EATEN.
SO THEN, 2 OR 3 OF US, IN KAWARA,
WE COLLECTED GRASSHOPEPRS
AND FIGURED,
WHY NOT
TRY EATING THEM?
SO WE PUT ALL OUR EFFORT
INTO CATCHING THEM,
AND DEEP FRIED THEM
AND WE ATE THEM!
THEY WERE MORE DELICIOUS
THAN WE HAD EXPECTED.
AND WE DECIDED TO HOLD THIS
MONTHLY MEETING,
THE INSECT CUISINE RESEARCH
ASSOCIATION.

The caption changes to "Rice infused with cherry caterpillar dung and fried cherry caterpillar."

A picture shows the

Shoichi continues THE FIRST DISH OF TONIGHT
DINNER IS CHERRY BLOSSOM CATERPILLAR DUNG
FLAVOURED RICE.

Charlotte says SO FIRST, WE'RE GOING TO
BE TRYING THE
CATERPILLAR DUNG TEA.
I THINK HE IS EXCITED.
SO THIS IS THE DUNG
OF THE CATERPILLARS.

Roberto says WHAT IS IT?

Charlotte says IT'S THE DUNG OF CATERPILLARS.

In Japanese, Charlotte says CHERRY BLOSSOM
INSECT, WHAT IS THIS INSECT?

Shoichi says IT’S THE LARVAE OF A MOTH.

Charlotte says AH, OK.

Josh smells a recipient and says TOTALLY!

Robert says BITTER ALMOND!

Josh says MMM. AND SORT OF CINNAMONY.

Roberto says WOW.

Roberto says WHAT IS IT?

Charlotte says IT'S THE DUNG OF
CATERPILLARS.
AND HE IS GONNA
MAKE TEA WITH IT.

Roberto says AND IT IS THE POO?

Charlotte says YES.

Robert says OKAY.
REALLY?

They laugh.

Charlotte says THE NAME OF THIS IS
SAKURA KEMUSHI,
WHICH MEANS
"CHERRY CATERPILLAR."

Josh says SO THEY ARE CATERPILLARS
THAT LIVE ON THE CHERRY TREE?

Charlotte says YEAH.

Josh says PALM WEEVIL LARVA.

A man shows a bowl with a white sauce and insect moving in it.

Roberto says IT HINK IT’S
SOMETHING WE CAN WORK
ON A RECIPE FOR.

Josh says SORRY?

Roberto says WE CAN WORK
ON A PROPER RECIPE.
YOU KNOW, FIND THE RIGHT
BALANCE BETWEEN RICE AND POO.
BASICALLY.

Shoichi leaves dishes on a table and says HERE YOU GO,
THIS IS IT.

Charlotte says SO THIS RICE HAS BEEN STEAMED
WITH THE CATERPILLAR
DUNG TEA,
THE SHIT TEA,
SO IT GOES A LITTLE BIT
PINKY FROM THE TEA,
WHICH IS QUITE NICE.
AND THEN WHAT IS ON TOP OF
THAT IS THE CATERPILLAR THAT
EXCRETES THE SHIT.
MMM!

Josh says THE FLAVOUR OF
THE DUNG
IS SO BEAUTIFUL
AND STRONG
THAT...
AND IT'S, LIKE, MORE STRONG
THAN THE FLAVOUR OF
THE ACTUAL CATERPILLAR,
WHICH IS SO SURPRISING.
BUT WHAT I AM REALLY
INTERESTED IN IS HAVING
CHERRY CATERPILLAR SHIT
NEXT TO A CHERRY LEAF, AND
SEEING WHAT THE DIFFERENCE IS,
BECAUSE IT IS ALL
VERY WELL TO SAY,
"OH, BOILING THE RICE WITH
THE TEA MADE FROM THE SHIT
OF CHERRY CATERPILLARS
IS REALLY INTERESTING,"
BUT IF IT TASTES
THE SAME AS BOILING IT
WITH THE CHERRY LEAF,
THEN IT'S LIKE, "WELL,
YOU MAY AS WELL
JUST TAKE CHERRY LEAVES,
BECAUSE IT IS A LOT LESS
LABOUR-INTENSIVE."

Roberto says THE IDEA OF THE TASTE
SOMETIMES ALSO IS
SURPRISING,
AS THE TASTE
IS COME FROM AN INSECT.
SO, LIKE, SOMETIMES
IT IS ALSO BEAUTIFUL
TO PRESENT
ONLY THE ESSENCE.

Charlotte says MM-HMM.

Josh says WHAT WE ARE TRYING TO DO IS
REALLY UNDERSTAND
HOW THEY WORK
AS INGREDIENTS,
REGARDLESS OF THE FACT
THAT THEY ARE BUGS.
LIKE, WE ARE NOT
TRYING TO USE THEM
BECAUSE WE THINK THAT
EVERYONE SHOULD EAT BUGS.
WE'RE USING THEM BECAUSE
THEY ARE A WHOLE OTHER SET
OF FLAVOURS AND
TASTES AND TEXTURES
THAT WE'RE OVERLOOKING
BECAUSE OF A CULTURAL BIAS.

(music plays)

As Josh speaks, the end credits roll.

Producer, Sigrid Dyekjjer, PGA.

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Produced by Rosforth. Danish Documentary.

Watch: Ep. 6 - Japan