Transcript: Edmond Yu: the clash of schizophrenia and homelessness | Apr 17, 1997

A match lights up a candle. A hammer sits on a purple fabric.

(piano music plays)

A bus leaves.

Isabel stands in a bus stop. She’s in her forties with short blond hair. She’s wearing glasses, a black coat, a purple turtleneck and carries a bag.

Isabel says I WAS LATER THAN USUAL
GETTING OUT OF WORK AND I WAS
IN A HURRY AND I JUST RUSHED
OUT OF THE BUILDING, AND THE
STREET CAR WAS SITTING HERE AND
I GOT ONTO IT.
AND I NOTICED THERE WAS A BUS
BE SIDE THE STREET CAR.

A caption appears on screen. It reads "Isabel Rose. Eyewitness."

Isabel continues AND I
UNDERSTAND THAT THERE HAD BEEN
AN ALTERCATION AND THE POLICE
HAD CLEARED THE BUS AND THIS
MAN HAD BEEN INVOLVED IN THIS
ALTERCATION AND THE POLICE HAD
BEEN, WERE SPEAKING WITH HIM.
HOW LONG THEY HAD BEEN SPEAKING
WITH HIM, I HAVE NO IDEA.
AND THE MAN
THEN, VERY, ALMOST IMMEDIATELY,
RAISED HIS HAND LIKE THAT, AND
HE HAD IN HIS HAND WHAT I COULD
SEE IMMEDIATELY WAS A HAMMER.
I CALL IT A FAIRLY SMALL
HAMMER.
AND HE STOOD AND WAGGLED THIS
HAND WITH THE HAMMER IN IT
BRIEFLY, VERY BRIEFLY.
I SAID TO NOBODY IN PARTICULAR
ON THE BUS, "OH, HE'S GOT A
HAMMER," AND WATCHED.
AND THEN IT STOPPED AND THEN I
WONDERED, "WHAT'S GOING TO
HAPPEN NEXT?"
AND SECONDS WENT BY AND THEN
THERE WERE SHOTS.
I COULD SEE THE FIRE OF THE
SHOTS.
I COULD HEAR, "BANG BANG BANG
BANG."
AND I THOUGHT, AGAIN, I WAS
MOVED.
I SHOUTED, CALLED OUT ON THE
BUS, "OH, HE SHOT THE MAN!
WHY DID HE SHOOT THE MAN?"

Flowers, candles and objects sit on a snowy corner.

She continues I DON'T KNOW WHAT WAS SAID, BUT
THERE WAS NO PHYSICAL
CONFRONTATION.
THERE WERE TWO OFFICERS AND
THIS MAN.
I COULD SEE NO REASON FOR IT.

Bob plays the piano. He’s in his forties, clean-shaven with grayish hair. He’s wearing round glasses, a light shirt and a dark blue vest.

Bob says I'VE HEARD IT SAID ALREADY,
HE SHOULD HAVE BEEN IN THE
HOSPITAL, HE SHOULDN'T HAVE
BEEN ON THE STREET.
HE SHOULDN'T HAVE BEEN IN THE
COMMUNITY.
THAT GETS VERY CLOSE TO WANTING
TO BLAME EDMOND FOR WHAT
HAPPENED, YOU KNOW?

The caption changes to "Bob Rose. Outreach worker."

He continues EDMOND, YOU KNOW, WAS STATED
VERY EARLY ON IN MY
RELATIONSHIP WITH HIM, THAT HE
BELIEVED THERE WAS NO PLACE IN
THE WORLD FOR HIM.
SO I TOOK THAT AS KIND OF A --
I TOOK THAT AS THE WORKING
BASIS FOR OUR RELATIONSHIP,
WHICH WAS FOR ME TO TRY TO SHOW
HIM BY DEED AND BY WORD AND BY
AVAILABILITY THAT IN FACT THERE
MIGHT BE A PLACE FOR HIM AND
THAT WE WOULD HELP HIM FIND
THAT.

Children play in a park.

Susan sits in a sewing workshop. She’s in her forties with shoulder-length curly blond hair. She’s wearing a brown patterned blouse.

Susan says I HAD SEEN EDMOND YU FOR
YEARS IN THE PARK.
WE CALL OURSELVES PARK MOMS
THAT HANG OUT IN THE PARK WITH
OUR KIDS IN THE SUMMER AND HE
WOULD ALWAYS BE THERE.
AND IT WAS ALMOST "OH, THERE'S
EDMOND."
EVERYTHING'S RIGHT.
THERE'S SPRING, THERE HE IS,
DOING HIS EXERCISES.

The caption changes to "Susan Dicks. Grange Park area resident."

Susan continues HE DIDN'T LOOK LIKE A STREET
PERSON IN THE SENSE THAT HE
WASN'T -- LIKE A LOT OF STREET
PEOPLE SMELLARE UNKEMPT AND
HAVE WILD HAIR OR BEARD OR
DIRTY CLOTHES, HE NEVER LOOKED
LIKE THAT.
HE ALWAYS HAD SOME SORT OF
SARTORIAL EDGE TO HIM.

Susan uses a use a sewing machine.

She continues I WASN'T
AFRAID OF HIM.
I WAS WARY OF HIM.
I NEVER FELT THREATENED BY HIM.
I ALSO NEVER MADE ANY OVERTURES
TO TALK TO HIM, WHICH LOOKING
BACK I REGRET.
I THINK BY LOSING EDMOND IN OUR
COMMUNITY, IT REINFORCES IN A
REALLY MAJOR WAY THAT PEOPLE
THAT DON'T FIT INTO OUR SOCIETY
ARE NOT WELCOME, AND REALLY, IT
REINFORCES THE FACT THAT
THERE'S NOWHERE FOR THEM.

Katherine sits in a room. She’s in her forties with short black hair and bangs. She’s wearing a white blouse under a purple vest.

Katherine says MY NAME'S
KATHERINE YU AND EDMOND IS MY
YOUNGEST BROTHER.
I WAS FROM HONG KONG.
I CAME HERE IN 1975, AND EDMOND
CAME HERE IN 1982.
AFTER MY FATHER DIED.
HE REALLY LOVED MY FATHER.
HE VISIT HIM EVERYDAY IN THE
HOSPITAL.
HE JUST HAVE THAT KIND OF
SPECIAL PASSION FOR HIM.
HE MISS HIM A LOT.
MY FATHER DIED, YOU KNOW, OF
CANCER.

A black and white picture shows a young man next to a boy.

The caption changes to "Katherine Yu. Edmond’s sister."

Katherine continues THAT'S DURING THE LAST YEAR OF
HIS HIGHSCHOOL.
HE STRUGGLE A LOT, AND THAT
MADE ME, MAY BE ONE OF THE
MOTIVATION FOR HIM TO REALLY GO
FOR IT, YOU KNOW, TO BE A
DOCTOR.
AFTER TWO YEARS, YOU KNOW, HARD
WORKING, HE'S REALLY EXCITED
ABOUT GETTING INTO THE MEDICAL
SCHOOL, BECAUSE NOW THE FIRST
THING HE DID IS, WELL, HE USE
UP ALL HIS SCHOLARSHIP TO BUY
THINGS FOR THE FAMILY.
EACH ONE HAVE SOMETHING TO
SHARE HIS JOY.

Men watch TV in a chapel.

Cristina sits in an office. She’s in her thirties with long black hair. She’s wearing a black turtleneck sweater and earrings.

Cristina says WE HAVE A LOT OF VARIETY
OF CLIENTS.
SOME COME AND LIKE TO BE QUIET
AND HAVE THEIR OWN SPACE BUT
EDMOND, REALLY WAS COLOURFUL.
LIVELY, SPUNKY, IN OUR CHAPEL
HE WOULD EXERCISE AND HE WOULD
DO SIT-UPS AND JUMPING JACKS
AND ONE-HAND PUSH UP, TWO-HAND
PUSH UPS, CLAPPING PUSH-UPS AND
THEY WOULD JUST GO ON.

The caption changes to "Cristina Nunes. Scott Mission, Men’s Ministry."

Cristina continues AND ON
AND YOU HAVE TO REMEMBER THAT
HE HAS LAYERS AND LAYERS OF
CLOTHING ON, THIS IS HEAVY AND
HE WOULD DO LIKE KNUCKLE
PUSH-UPS.
VERY DIFFICULT.
AND IT WAS RECEIVED WITH MIXED
REVIEWS.
EITHER PEOPLE WERE VERY CURIOUS
AND THOUGHT IT WAS VERY
INTERESTING OR THOUGHT THAT,
"WHY IS THIS GUY DOING THIS IN
THE CHAPEL?"

A church choir sings THEY CALLED HIM JESUS,
HE CAME TO LOVE HEAL AND
FORGIVE...

Mike is in his thirties with short red hair. He’s wearing glasses, a silver necklace and a striped gray zip sweater and an earring.

Mike says WE HAVE
SOMETIMES GOSPEL CHOIRS HERE AT
THE MISSION ON THE WEEKEND, AND
THEY WOULD BE AT THE BACK
SINGING WORD-FOR-WORD, JUST
LIKE A JAYBIRD.
HE HAD A GOOD VOICE.
HE HAD A GOOD VOICE AND HE
JUST, JUST LOVED TO SING.

The choir continues
BECAUSE HE LIVES,
I CAN FACE TOMORROW...

A man with long hair approaches a desk.

The man with long hair says HOW YOU DOING?

Mike says NOT TOO BAD.
WHAT CAN I DO FOR YOU?

The man with long hair says I'M HERE FOR GROCERIES.

Mike says HAVE YOU HAD GROCERIES HERE
BEFORE, SIR?

The man with long hair says NO.

Mike says NO?
YOU HAVE ANY IDENTIFICATION?
GREAT.

Sitting in an office, Mike says I WAS ABLE TO HELP HIM GET
A HEALTH CARD AND THEN WE WERE
GOING TO WORK ON HIM GETTING A
SOCIAL INSURANCE CARD AND WE
NEVER GOT AROUND TO IT BECAUSE
I NEVER SAW HIM ALIVE AGAIN.

The caption changes to "Mike Seagraves. Scott Mission, Men’s Ministry ."

Mike continues I CAUGHT THE TAIL END OF A
FIGHT BETWEEN EDMOND AND
ANOTHER CLIENT HERE AT THE
MISSION.
I GOT IN THE MIDDLE OF IT.
SO I BROKE IT UP FAIRLY EASILY.
I JUST ASKED THEM BOTH
BASICALLY TO, YOU KNOW, TO --
AS STRONG A VOICE AS I COULD
MUSTER, JUST TO QUIT IT!
COOL IT!
AND THAT WAS BASICALLY THE END
OF THE FIGHT.
YOU KNOW, THE ONE GUY, HE HAD
HIS GLASSES BROKEN, NOSE
BLEEDING, EDMOND HAD BROKEN HIS
WATCH, WHICH WAS LYING ALL OVER
THE FLOOR.
AND WE GOT THE STORY FROM BOTH
GUYS, WHAT HAD HAPPENED AS BEST
WE COULD.
WE ASKED THEM BOTH TO LEAVE FOR
THE DAY.
I ACTUALLY ESCORTED EDMOND OUT
MYSELF AND I SAID I WOULD SEE
HIM TOMORROW.
HE SAYS OKAY, AND I NEVER SAW
HIM AGAIN.

Robert sits on a bench. He’s in his fifties, with a white beard. He’s wearing a woollen hat, a light brown coat and blue jeans.

Robert says SOMEHOW, FOR SOME REASON HE
SEEMED TO ATTACH HIMSELF TO ME.
MANY TIMES -- ANY TIME HE WAS
IN PLACE I ARRIVED, HE WOULD
STOP WHATEVER HE WAS DOING AND
COME OVER AND GREET ME AND WE
WOULD SPEND THE REST OF THE
TIME THERE TALKING TOGETHER.
MANY SUBJECT, YOU KNOW?
BASKETBALL, MARTIAL ARTS,
FEMALE, WHATEVER.

The caption changes to "Robert Little. Edmond’s friend."

Robert continues I WAS, I WAS AT THE SCOTT
MISSION THE DAY HE GOT INTO THE
FIGHT.
HE WAS IN FACT ATTACKED.
OKAY?
AND HE WAS DEFENDING HIMSELF.
IT WAS FELT THAT HE MIGHT HAVE
BEEN OVER-EXUBERANT.
YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU'RE FIGHTING
YOU DON'T STOP TO SAY GEE, THIS
IS ENOUGH.
AND HE WAS BARRED FOR A PERIOD
OF ONE DAY, OKAY?
PRIOR TO THAT I HAD NEVER SEEN
HIM BEHAVE IN A VIOLENT MANNER.
NEVER GOT ANY INDICATIONS OF
VIOLENCE FROM HIM.
HE NEEDED HELP, OKAY?
BECAUSE OF THE -- IF YOU WERE
TALKING TO HIM, THE
CONVERSATION WOULD JUMP FROM
POINT TO POINT WITHOUT EVER
RESOLVING.
HOWEVER THAT HAPPENS IN MOST
CONVERSATIONS.
PEOPLE JUST DON'T NOTICE IT AS
MUCH UNLESS IT'S WITH SOMEONE
LIKE EDMOND.
THEN IT, YOU KNOW, BECOMES
CLEAR.
BUT MOST CONVERSATIONS JUMP
FROM POINT TO POINT WITHOUT
EVER RESOLVING ANYTHING.
IF YOU WERE LISTENING TO HIM
TALK, YOU WOULD REALIZE THAT HE
WASN'T JUST RAMBLING, YOU KNOW?
HE HAD HIS OWN PHILOSOPHIES
DEVELOPED OVER -- THROUGH HIS
PAST EXPERIENCES AND READING OR
WHATEVER.
BUT HE DID HAVE HIS OWN VIEW OF
LIFE.
AND IT COULD HAVE BEEN VERY
VALUABLE.

Small object sit on the purple fabric.

Katherine says AT THE
BEGINNING OF 1985, HE START
QUITTING SCHOOL.
THAT SELDOM HAPPEN.
HE ALWAYS ATTEND SCHOOL.
HE START QUITTING SCHOOL, YOU
KNOW, UM, JUST STUD YOUNG AT
HOME BY HIMSELF.
HE SELDOM TALK WITH ANYONE.
HE JUST, YOU KNOW, BECAME SO
INTROVERTED, CONCENTRATING WITH
HIMSELF, WITH HIS STUDY, THAT'S
IT.
UNTIL 1985, THE SUMMER.
HE START HAVE SOMETHING, SOME
THOUGHTS THAT IS NOT REAL.
I VISITED HIM AND HE TOLD ME
THAT, WELL, ALL THE PEOPLE
LIVING HERE ARE NOT THE REAL
RESIDENTS.
THEY'RE JUST PRETENDING TO BE
THE RESIDENTS.
IN FACT THEY'RE ALL SPIES.
AFTER WE MET WITH THE DOCTOR,
HE TOLD US THAT EDMOND SUFFERED
WITH A PARANOID SCHIZOPHRENIA.

A slow motion clip shows blurry images of people in the street.

Bob says HIS MIND WAS --
I SUPPOSE IF YOU WERE GOING TO
JUDGE IT IN PSYCHIATRIC TERM,
HE WAS VERY HYPERACTIVE.
HE SAID MANY THOUGHTS AND
ASSOCIATIONS SAID VERY RAPIDLY,
IF HE WAS ANXIOUS OR OVER-TIRED
THOSE ASSOCIATIONS AND THOUGHTS
WOULD APPEAR MUCH LOSER THAN
THEY WOULD BE FOR A NORMAL
PERSON.
A LOT OF HOW HE PRESENTED
HIMSELF, PRESENTED HIS THINKING
HAD TO DO WITH WHAT HE WAS
TALKING WITH AND HOW RECEPTIVE
THEY WERE, HOW HARD THEY WORK
THE AT LISTENING AND HOW MUCH
THEY CREATED AN ATMOSPHERE OF
COMFORT AND TRUST SO THAT HE
COULD RELAX A BIT AND EXERCISE
HIS OWN NATURAL CONTROLS OVER
WHAT WAS GOING ON WITHIN HIM,
WITHIN HIMSELF.

Andrea stands in a library. She’s in her forties with short black hair. She’s wearing glasses, a golden pullover and a necklace.

Andrea says EDMOND YU
WOULD COME IN WITH BACKPACKS AND
BAGS AND DRESSED IN A VERY
UNUSUAL FASHION, LOOKING ALMOST
LIKE LAWRENCE OF ARABIA.
HE WAS COMING IN THE LIBRARY,
GO TO A PARTICULAR PLACE IN THE
LIBRARY THAT HE WOULD FEEL SAFE
IN, AND OFTEN TIMES HE WOULD SEW
SEW.

The caption changes to "Andrea Yermy. Library Assistant."

Andrea continues UM, HE WOULD HAVE HIS SEWING
KIT THERE AND HE MADE A VERY
NICE BACKPACK, PATCHWORK QUILT,
WE REALLY ADMIRED HIS HANDI
HANDIWORK.
OR HE WOULD MEND HIS SOCKS.
IT'S LIKE SETTING UP HOME.
THERE WAS AN INCIDENT -- HIS
BAGS WERE BLOCKING THE BOOKS
AND I HAD TO ASK HIM TO, UM, TO
RE-GROUP IT, MOVE IT, TIDY UP A
LITTLE.
AND, UM, EDMOND BECAME SO ANGRY
WITH ME.
UM, THE LOOK IN HIS EYES WERE SO
WILD AND, UM, VERY ANGRY.
AND HE WAS, WHAT HE WAS TELLING
ME AND I CAN'T QUOTE THE EXACT
WORDS BUT HE WAS SAYING THAT,
"WOMAN, DON'T LOOK AT ME, DON'T
TALK TO ME."
AND I SUPPOSE THIS SUPPORTS THE
FACT THAT WHENEVER HE CAME TO
THE DESK IT WAS ALWAYS A MALE
LIBRARIAN THERE, IT WAS NEVER
MYSELF SITTING THERE.
HE WOULD NEVER ASK ME ANYTHING.
WE DIDN'T KNOW TOO MUCH ABOUT
EDMOND YU.
I LEARNED HOW TO COMMUNICATE
WITH HIM BY KEEPING MY DISTANCE
AND RESPECTING HIM.
AND I SUPPOSE THAT WAS A LESSON
FOR ME TO LEARN, THAT I DO NEED
TO RESPECT ANYBODY'S WISHES, NO
MATTER HOW THEY'RE EXPRESSED.
BECAUSE NO MATTER HOW OUR
RELATIONSHIPS ARE, AND IN THIS
LIBRARY WITH THE PATRONS WHO ARE
COMING IN, WHETHER THEY ARE,
UM, MIDDLE CLASS INTELLECTUALS
LOOKING FOR BOOKS OR
RESEARCHERS, STUDENTS, OR
PEOPLE WHO MAKE THIS LIBRARY
THEIR HOME, IT REALLY DOESN'T
MATTER.
I HAVE SUCH -- UM...

She laughs, looks down and makes a pause.

Looking touched, she continues SORROW FOR, UM...
THE FACT THAT NOTHING CAN BE
DONE ABOUT SOME OF THEM.
THEIR LIVES ARE LOST.

Pills sit on the purple fabric.

Katherine says WHEN EDMOND
WAS ON MEDICATION, HE SO TIRED
AND HE SO SLOW, HE SELDOM TALK.
YOU KNOW?
HE JUST ATE AND SLEPT.
THAT'S IT.
BUT ONCE HE WAS OFF MEDICATION,
HE TALK A LOT.
LIKE HE TALK A LOT OF NONSENSE.
AND HE DIDN'T TRUST ANYONE.
HE JUST THINKING THAT
EVERYONE'S TRYING TO HURT HIM.
I THINK EDMOND TRIED TO HAVE A
NEW START.
BECAUSE WHEN HE WAS REFUSED TO
GO BACK TO THE MEDICAL SCHOOL,
HE TRIED TO LOOK FOR JOBS.
LIKE, YOU KNOW, HE WORK AS A
SECURITY.
HE WASH HAIR IN THE SAL: , HE
TRIED TO, YOU KNOW, WORK AS --
IN THE SALLON, HE TRIED TO
WORK, YOU KNOW, AS IN MOVING
COMPANY, HE WORK IN A LOT OF
JOBS BUT HE CAN'T STAY LONG
BECAUSE OF HIS SICKNESS.
BECAUSE AT THAT TIME EDMONDS
WAS LIVING BY HIMSELF.
THE ONLY WAY WE CAN GET HIM TO
THE HOSPITAL IS BY WARRANT AND
THAT'S WHY WE APPLY FOR IT IN
1985.
A WARRANT IS A PERMISSION GIVEN
TO THE POLICE TO ARREST SOMEONE
THAT CAN ONLY BE APPLIED UNDER
STRICT CONDITION.
THE FIRST ONE IS THE PERSON IS
HARMING HIMSELF.
THE SECOND ONE IS THE PERSON'S
HARMING THE OTHERS.
THE THIRD ONE IS THE PERSON
CAN'T CARE FOR HIMSELF.

A bottle falls from an iron fire escape.

She continues THE WARRANT WAS GRANTED BECAUSE
WHEN I VISITED HIM AND TRIED TO
PERSUADE HIM TO GET HELP, HE
BECAME UPSET AND HE PUNCH ME.
HE WAS TAKEN TO THE CLARK FOR
TWO WEEKS AND WE CONTINUED --
EDMOND CONTINUED TO TAKE HIS
MEDICATION FOR SOMETIME, BUT HE
DECIDED TO QUIT IT AFTERWARDS.

Laval walks into a church. He’s in his forties, clean-shaven with receding black hair. He’s wearing glasses, a gray suit, a striped blue shirt and a dotted dark blue tie.

Laval I THINK WE
HAVE PROBLEMS UNDERSTANDING OR
ACCEPTING PEOPLE WHO ARE VERY
DIFFERENT FROM US.

The caption changes to "Doctor Laval Yau. Elder, Chinese Gospel Church."

Laval continues BECAUSE IT DOES
REQUIRE MEDICATION AND IT'S
MUCH EASIER TO JUST IGNORE THEM
AND WALK BY AND GO ON, BECAUSE
YOU'RE PART OF THE MAINSTREAM,
YOU'RE OKAY BUT THESE PEOPLE
ARE NOT.
AND JUST TAKING TIME TO THINK
THROUGH AND SAY "WHO ARE THEY?"
WHY ARE THEY THERE?
AND THIS IS REALLY EDMOND'S
ISSUE.
AND OF COURSE, WE DENY TO GET
TO KNOW HIM ENOUGH, TO FIND A
LOT OUT ABOUT HIM, BUT ENOUGH TO
KIND OF NOTICE THAT HE WAS JUST
TOTALLY ON HIS OWN AND, AND
HE'S BUILT A LITTLE WORLD
BECAUSE NOBODY ELSE COULD ENTER
THAT.

A portrait of Edmond and his father sits on the purple fabric.

Katherine says HE KNEW THAT
I CARE FOR HIM.
BECAUSE WHENEVER HE GET INTO
TROUBLE, HE WILL CALL HOME AND
CALL ME TO HELP HIM.
IF HE KNEW THAT I CARE FOR HIM,
I GIVE HIM THE CHOICE EITHER TO
BE HELPED OR...
OR I WILL LEAVE HIM AT THAT
POINT.
MAYBE I SHOULD SAY NO.
I, I PUSH HIM TO MAKE THAT KIND
OF A CHOICE.
FINALLY HE DECIDE TO GET HELP,
TO BE ON MEDICATION, TO MOVE IN
ONE OF THOSE MID-WAY HOUSES FOR
PSYCHIATRIC SURVIVORS.
WHEN EDMOND CAME HOME, WE ASKED
HIM ABOUT HIS LIFE IN THE
MID-WAY HOUSE.
HE TOLD US THAT, YOU KNOW,
WELL, HE SPENT MOST OF HIS TIME
SLEEPING AND THEN GOT UP,
EATING, AND THEN WENT BACK TO
SLEEP AGAIN.
HE PLAY SOME, HE PLAY CHESS
WITH THE PEOPLE THERE
SOMETIMES, BUT HE SO TIRED AND
NOT INVOLVED WITH ANYTHING.
HE'S NOT INTERESTED WITH
ANYTHING.
BUT AFTER SOME TIMES, WE TALK
WITH HIM AND ENCOURAGE HIM TO
DO SOME EXERCISES BECAUSE OF
HIS WEIGHT.
HE GAIN A LOT OF WEIGHT.

The caption changes to "Louis Dionne. Psychotherapist." He is in his forties, with curly brown hair and clean-shaven. He’s wearing a dark green shirt.

Louis says HE ASKED ME,
"ARE YOU LIKE THE SOUND OF THE
WIND OR ARE YOU LIKE THE SOUND
OF A BUTCHER CHOPPING?
AND IF YOU ARE LIKE THE SOUND
OF A BUTCHER CHOPPING, ARE YOU
LIKE ONE BUTCHER CHOPPING OR
ARE YOU LIKE 20 BUTCHERS
CHAPPING?"
IT'S DIFFICULT TO BE SURE OF
WHAT HE MEANT BY SAYING THAT
BUT IN THE CONTEXT OF OUR
CONVERSATION, I TOOK IT AS HIM
PUTTING TO ME THE QUESTION OF
TRUST.
YOU KNOW?
HOW MUCH CAN I TRUST YOU?

Louis sits at table with a chess game on it.

He continues ONE THING
THAT I FOUND QUITE REMARKABLE
WITH EDMOND WAS THAT ALTHOUGH
AT TIMES HE WOULD BE TALKING TO
HIMSELF, AS SOON AS YOU WENT
OVER TO HIM AND SAID, "EDMOND."
AND SAT DOWN WITH HIM, HE WAS
IMMEDIATELY ENGAGED WITH YOU.
ALL OF HIS INTIMATE THINKING
WAS DONE OUT LOUD.
SO IT WAS WITH THE CHESS GAME
THAT WE PLAYED.
SO WE WOULD SIT HERE AND HE
WOULD STRATEGIZE, "OH, THIS IS
A PAWN.
OH, NOW LET'S SEE.
UH, YES, HERE."
AND AT FIRST I THOUGHT THIS MAN
CANNOT REALLY PLAY CHESS
BECAUSE HE'S GOING OVER THE
BASIC RULES IN HIS MIND.
AND YET THE MORE WE PLAYED, THE
MORE INTERESTING THE GAME
BECAME.
AND IT, IT ENDED UP BEING A VERY
TIGHT GAME.
AND THROUGH IT ALL HE WOULD ALSO
FILL LOSS ADVERTISE ABOUT "OH,
THE KNIGHT.
WHAT IS A KNIGHT.
AND THEN HE WOULD HAVE, YOU
KNOW, A FEW THINGS TO SAY ABOUT
THE NATURE OF A KNIGHT.
I BELIEVE IT'S THE NATURE OF
THE MIND TO ACTUALLY BE IN A
DIALOGUE WITH ITSELF.
PRACTICALLY ALL OF THE TIME.
AND THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN
EDMOND AND MOST OTHER PEOPLE
WAS THAT THAT DIALOGUE WAS MADE
OUT LOUD.
SO IN A WAY IT MADE HIM FAR
MORE TRANSPARENT THAN SOMEONE
WHO SAYS NOTHING.
A COUPLE OF WEEKS BEFORE EDMOND
DIED, HE ACTUALLY GOT UP AND HE
SANG THIS OLD BEATLES SONG
WHICH WHEN I LISTEN TO IT NOW I
FEEL WAS SO APPROPRIATE.

Louis plays the piano and sings YESTERDAY,
LOVE WAS SUCH AN EASY GAME
TO PLAY,
NOW I NEED A PLACE TO HIDE
AWAY,
OH I BELIEVE,
IN YESTERDAY.
SUDDENLY,
I'M NOT HALF THE MAN I USED
TO BE,
THERE'S A SHADOW HANGING
OVER ME,
OH YESTERDAY...

A small ceramic Buddha sits on the purple fabric.

Katherine says HE LIVED IN
THE MID-WAY HOUSE FOR ALMOST
FOUR YEARS.
AFTERWARDS HE DECIDE TO HAVE
HIS OWN APARTMENT, AND THAT'S
WHY HE TOLD US ABOUT HIS
DECISION.
WE TRIED TO PERSUADE HIM TO
STAY IN THE MID-WAY HOUSE, BUT
HE DECIDED TO MOVE.
HE BECAME MORE LIVELY IN TERMS
OF WHEN HE CAME HOME, HE
STARTS, YOU KNOW, ASKING
QUESTION AND THEN START TALKING
MORE.

Bob opens a door and says THIS IS A
ROOMING HOUSE, THE LAST HOUSING
THAT EDMOND HAD.
WHEN YOU MOVE OUT ON YOUR OWN,
YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT THERE'S
A -- YOU CAN HAVE A SENSE THAT,
YOU KNOW, "I'M WELL.
I'M WELL."
THAT MAYBE "I WANT TO LEAVE ALL
THAT BEHIND ME."
YOU KNOW, THE BEING A PATIENT
IN A HOSPITAL, THE BEING A
PATIENT IN A BOARDING HOME.
NOW I WANT TO BE A CITIZEN.

Cups and biscuit boxes sit on a table, a TV set on a small fridge and clothing on the floor.

Bob continues AND I THINK IT'S, IT'S VERY
COMMON FOR PEOPLE IN FEELING
REALLY GOOD, FEELING REALLY
CONFIDENT, YOU KNOW, TO SORT OF
SAY "WELL, I DON'T REALLY NEED
THE MEDICATION ANYMORE" AND NOT
SORT OF SEE IT AS, NOT SEE IT
IN A PREVENTATIVE ROLE.

Katherine says HE MOVE OUT OF
HIS OWN APARTMENT IN THE END OF
NOVEMBER, 1996.
THEN I THINK HE'S LIVING ON THE
STREETS.

Bob says AS A LANDLORD
LATER EXPLAINED THIS TO ME, IT
WAS THAT HE ASKED EDMOND TO
SIGN A VOLUNTARY TREE EVICTION
NOTICE BECAUSE HE WOULD LEAVE
THE ROOMING BECAUSE BECAUSE HE
HAD BEEN SINGING LATE AT NIGHT
AND KEEPING OTHER TENT IN ANY
EVENTS AWAKE AND THIS WAS THE
LANDLORD'S WAY OF THREATENING
HIM INTO CHANGING HIS
BEHAVIOUR.
EDMOND'S VERSION WAS THAT HE NO
LONGER WANTED TO LIVE IN SUCH A
POOR QUALITY HOUSING SITUATION
WHERE HE WAS NOT WELCOME AND
PREFERRED LIFE OUT ON THE
STREET TO ABUSE OR THREATS AND
POOR QUALITY HOUSING.

Katherine says HE CAME HOME
LOOKING REALLY DIFFERENT.
THE FIRST IMPRESSIVE IS HE LOST
A LOT OF WEIGHT.
AND I ASK HIM, "HOW COME YOU
LOST SO MUCH WEIGHT?"
AND THEN HE DIDN'T WANT TO TALK
ABOUT IT.
I SAID, "NOW, IF YOU ARE -- YOU
ARE NOT TAKING ANY MEDICATION,
YOU MIGHT GET INTO TROUBLE
AGAIN."
AND HE TOLD ME THAT, "WELL, YOU
PEOPLE TRY TO DO ALL THESE PAD
THING, BUT I'M THE ONE TO KEEP
EVERYTHING IN ORDER.
AS LONG AS I'M HERE, YOU CAN'T
DO ANYTHING."
HE JUST GIVE ME THE IMPRESSION
THAT, YOU KNOW, ALL THOSE
HALLUCINATIONS CAME BACK.
HE'S TALKING LIKE WHAT
HAPPENED, YOU KNOW, WHEN HE
FIRST GOT SICK.

Bob says EDMOND SAID, YOU
KNOW," HERE I AM.
I'M A BIG PERSON.
I'M A BIG PERSONALITY.
I HAVE A HUGE MIND.
I HAVE A HUGE APPETITE FOR
CONVERSATION WITH YOU, FOR
CONTACT WITH OTHER PEOPLE.
I HAVE A HUGE AMOUNT OF
ENDURANCE.
I AM PREPARED AND ABLE TO
ENDURE SUFFERING THAT YOU
CANNOT ENDURE.
I AM FEARLESS ABOUT WANDERING
OUT INTO A WORLD IN A WAY THAT
MOST PEOPLE WOULD NEVER EVEN
DREAM OF DOING."

Katherine stands in front of a grave.

Katherine says WHEN HE MOVE
INTO THE MID-WAY HOUSE, WE
REALLY HAVE A HOPE THAT HE CAN
BE CURED SOME DAY.
WE KEEP ON HOPING.
With tears in her eyes, she continues AND WE TRY TO LET HIM KNOW THAT
IF HE WANTS TO HAVE A NEW
START, WE ARE THERE FOR HIM.
WE WILL DO OUR VERY BEST FOR
WHATEVER HE THINK, YOU KNOW, IS
NECESSARY FOR HIM TO HAVE A NEW
START.
AND THAT'S WHY WE KEEP ON
HOPING.
AND WE KEEP ON PRAYING FOR THAT
THAT.
AND THAT'S WHY WHEN I KNOW THE
NEWS THAT HE WAS DEAD IS REALLY
DIFFICULT.
AND WHY, YOU KNOW?
AFTER ALL THESE YEARS, THAT'S
THE RESULT OF IT.

She rubs her eyes.

She continues BUT AFTERWARDS, YOU KNOW, WE
TALKED, WE TALK ABOUT THAT IN
THE FAMILY, YOU KNOW?
WHY THIS THING HAPPEN AS A
RESULT?
AFTER ALL THESE YEARS OF
STRUGGLE?
WE BELIEVE THAT GOD ANSWERED
OUR PRAYERS IN A DIFFERENT WAY.
NOW HE'S DEAD, WE HOPE THAT HIS
STORY WILL STILL BENEFIT TO THE
OTHERS.

Playing the piano, Bob sings
WALKING ON,
BEYOND ALL REASON,
YOU'VE FOUND IT HARD,
STRONGER THAN THE WORLD.
YOUR NAME ON MY LIPS,
I CAN'T FORGET YOU,
AS I'M SEARCHING FOR YOUR
HOME,
WALKIN' THIS TOWN TONIGHT,
AND I'M SEARCHIN' FOR MY
HOME,
WALKIN' THIS TOWN TONIGHT.
YOU'RE DOWN HERE LIVIN' ON
EDMOND'S WAY.

The candle goes out.

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